The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 356 - The Democrat Clown Show

00:00:00.000 So we've been discussing the case of James Younger over the week, and after raising awareness of the

00:00:05.820 case this week and getting this hashtag campaign, hashtag protect James Younger going, it looks like

00:00:11.660 some crucial people are taking notice. The governor of Texas, Greg Abbott, has said that his attorney

00:00:18.020 general is going to look into it. He's also going to have the social services look into the case as

00:00:24.160 well. Some state legislators have said they're going to propose a bill that would ban giving

00:00:30.120 puberty blockers to gender-confused children. Ted Cruz issued a statement last night. Dan

00:00:36.320 Crenshaw has spoken out. The mainstream media is actually taking notice, finally. They're reporting

00:00:45.440 on it. The Washington Post did a report. Their report obviously was unfair and biased in favor

00:00:50.460 of the mom, but still, they are at least taking notice, which they would prefer not to do,

00:00:54.740 but I think we forced them to. So I think that it would be fair to say that our efforts,

00:01:01.700 our speaking out about this situation really has a lot to do with these developments.

00:01:06.020 Turns out that hashtag campaigns actually can accomplish something. What do you know? Who

00:01:10.260 would have thought? And maybe this will leave an impression on Republican politicians, not just in

00:01:16.500 Texas, but on the federal level as well. I've been saying this for years, that this issue is a

00:01:23.240 winner for Republicans. The Senate should get together. They should pass legislation immediately

00:01:29.000 that bans the chemical castration of children. Let the House Democrats, if they want to, if they feel

00:01:36.980 comfortable with it, let them come out explicitly in favor of chemically castrating gender-confused 1.00

00:01:42.940 children, but force them to take a stand on it one way or another. You pass the bill and then let the

00:01:48.100 Democrats, let them make their case for why it's actually okay to chemically castrate eight-year-olds. 0.98

00:01:53.820 Let them do that. Either way, no matter how they do, if they come out in defense of it,

00:02:01.500 then everyone sees what a bunch of barbaric lunatics these people are, or they pass the bill,

00:02:06.960 in which case children are protected. Whichever way they go, it will benefit society and it will 0.94

00:02:10.920 benefit children. So there's no reason not to do this. This is a winning issue for Republicans.

00:02:19.220 And more important than that, than the fact that it's a winner politically, which it definitely is,

00:02:23.380 is just that it's the right thing to do. Okay, so, but what I really want to start with today,

00:02:30.300 I want to talk about this hearing on the Hill yesterday with Mark Zuckerberg, where the Democrats

00:02:34.940 transparently went fishing for viral moments by taking turns interrogating him with random and

00:02:42.700 irrelevant questions, basically treating him like a murder suspect. It was easily the most embarrassing

00:02:48.340 moment that Democrats have had in at least the last 16 hours. And we'll get to that in a minute.

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00:04:34.760 So the, uh, the Zuck man, as I call him as of just now, and I'm going to stop calling him that

00:04:41.740 I'm going to retire that already was on a Capitol Hill yesterday, testifying before the house financial

00:04:47.500 services committee about Libra, which is Facebook's new cryptocurrency concept. Actually,

00:04:52.400 it's not just Facebook that would be involved in this. It would be a network of other corporations

00:04:56.640 as well. So he was summoned to Washington to talk about it. And the Democrat people on the,

00:05:03.100 on the committee figured that, Hey, we've got this, the head dude over at Facebook in front of us.

00:05:07.880 Uh, we might as well take advantage and go fishing for some sweet, sweet, sweet viral moments.

00:05:14.480 And that's what they did. So each Democrat on the committee took turns grilling Zuckerberg

00:05:19.180 as if it was an episode of law and order. And most of their, most of their questions were

00:05:24.260 at best only tangentially connected to the subject. But in fact, the majority of the questions really

00:05:31.140 had nothing to do with the subject at all, which again, the subject is supposed to be

00:05:34.600 this cryptocurrency thing that Facebook is getting going.

00:05:38.160 But let's see what direction the Democrats decide to go with this questioning. First,

00:05:43.920 here is a representative Al green of the 21. How many are headed by women?

00:05:56.880 Congressman, I do not know the answer to that off the top of my head, but I can get it for you.

00:06:01.060 Well, I believe you can get it, Mr. Zuckerberg, but I, one would assume that you would know

00:06:07.660 who heads these corporations that are going to be running this global company.

00:06:18.760 Um, how many of them are minorities, Mr. Zuckerberg?

00:06:25.880 Congressman, I do not know off the top of my head.

00:06:28.280 Are there any members of the LGBTQ plus community associated with this association, Mr. Zuckerberg?

00:06:40.760 Congressman, I, I don't know the answer.

00:06:43.440 Who can, who acknowledge that many people who acknowledge that they are a part of the community?

00:06:50.820 Sorry.

00:06:51.440 You do not know.

00:06:52.300 Mr. Zuckerberg, is it true that the overwhelming majority of persons associated with this endeavor

00:07:01.700 are white men?

00:07:04.680 Congressman, I, I don't know off the top of my head, the list of the people who are running

00:07:10.180 the organizations in, in the, the association.

00:07:13.640 Mr. Zuckerberg, how many women are working on the project? 1.00

00:07:19.100 Uh, I don't know.

00:07:21.500 Mr. Zuckerberg, how many members of the LGBTQI P plus community work for it?

00:07:31.520 I, I'm not sure.

00:07:33.020 Mr. Zuckerberg, are there any disabled Koreans working for Facebook?

00:07:39.200 I, I don't know.

00:07:40.820 Mr. Zuckerberg, please tell me the precise number of dyslexic indigenous Australians employed by the

00:07:46.680 company. 0.68

00:07:47.520 Mr. Zuckerberg, can you tell me how many bisexual polytheistic one-armed Nigerian drag queens work 1.00

00:07:53.880 for Facebook? 0.93

00:07:55.060 You know, here's the thing, uh, by the way, it's illegal for companies to ask employees about their

00:08:00.100 sexuality.

00:08:00.760 And it would be extremely creepy if Zuckerberg could provide a precise tally.

00:08:06.360 I mean, what if he was actually able to say, well, let's see here.

00:08:09.320 We got 52 gay people.

00:08:10.620 Uh, we've got 30 bisexuals. 0.98

00:08:13.320 We've got seven furries.

00:08:15.260 Hey, what if he had a list?

00:08:16.740 He pulled out a clipboard.

00:08:18.100 So let me take a look, pulls the pen out of the ear.

00:08:20.860 Start, you know, that would be weird.

00:08:23.100 We don't want him to do that.

00:08:24.560 Now, Zuckerberg could probably actually provide a precise tally of every demographic group and

00:08:29.680 sexual orientation in the country because Facebook knows everything.

00:08:32.100 But, uh, we don't actually want that, do we?

00:08:36.140 And of course, this has nothing to do with the subject that he was ostensibly there to talk about.

00:08:40.780 Now, let's see what Representative Joyce Beattie has in store for all of us.

00:08:46.040 The other was around setting up a civil rights task force.

00:08:49.560 And who's on the civil rights task force?

00:08:52.040 Sheryl Sandberg is the person who, who's, she's-

00:08:55.040 What's civil rights?

00:08:55.760 Okay, we know Sheryl's not really civil rights, so I'm trying to help you here.

00:09:00.520 She's your COO, and I don't think there's anything, and I know Sheryl well, about civil

00:09:05.560 rights and her background. 0.99

00:09:06.640 So come better than that for me, if we're going to talk civil rights.

00:09:11.180 It's an internal task force.

00:09:12.740 Do you know who the, do you know who the firm that you employ for civil rights is?

00:09:18.920 Uh, Congressman, I don't know.

00:09:20.620 How could you not know when you have employed the most historical, the largest civil rights

00:09:26.820 firm to deal with issues that are major?

00:09:31.760 And this is what's so frustrating to me.

00:09:34.340 It's almost like you think this is a joke.

00:09:37.040 When you have ruined the lives of many people, discriminated against them.

00:09:41.240 Do you know what percentage of African Americans are on Facebook?

00:09:45.260 In comparison to majority folks, do you know what the percentages are?

00:09:50.740 People using the Facebook?

00:09:52.080 Yes.

00:09:52.800 Do you know what the percentages are for African Americans?

00:09:55.580 I don't, because we don't collect the races of people.

00:09:58.620 Well, it, it, it, it came out in a report and in the Pew Research Center that was sent to

00:10:04.780 you.

00:10:05.140 So maybe you just don't read a lot of things that deal with civil rights or African Americans.

00:10:09.620 I have a lot of questions I'm going to send to you that I'm not going to be able to get

00:10:15.120 through.

00:10:15.600 And I would like an answer because this is appalling and disgusting to me.

00:10:19.980 And I yield back.

00:10:22.660 What? 0.97

00:10:24.140 I, what, what the hell is this woman babbling about? 1.00

00:10:30.320 He's destroyed the lives of African Americans. 1.00

00:10:32.960 How?

00:10:33.800 Now I'm no, I'm no Zuckerberg fan personally, but how has he destroyed the lives of African 1.00

00:10:39.500 Americans?

00:10:39.960 What did he do?

00:10:41.040 What does he, and the thing is, he's got to keep a straight face.

00:10:44.820 And no matter how you feel about Zuckerberg, he's got his, his, his IQ is certainly probably

00:10:49.120 three times higher than everyone that's questioning him.

00:10:52.260 But he's got to keep a straight face and try, and I'm impressed with that at least, keeping 1.00

00:10:56.820 a straight face, trying his best to calmly answer these idiotic questions from morons. 1.00

00:11:04.980 It destroyed the lives of African Americans. 1.00

00:11:07.000 There was a Pew poll done about how many African Americans use Facebook.

00:11:10.220 Did you read the Pew poll?

00:11:11.080 Oh, you didn't.

00:11:12.220 So you don't like reading about African Americans, huh?

00:11:15.480 So in other words, what you're saying, Mr. Zuckerberg, is that the KKK is good. 0.90

00:11:21.120 Guards, arrest this man. 0.99

00:11:23.680 What an absolute clown show. 0.99

00:11:25.580 I mean, she really implied that he was racist because he hadn't read a poll about the internet 0.99

00:11:31.180 habits of African Americans.

00:11:32.880 She really, that really happened.

00:11:34.400 She, she actually did that.

00:11:37.420 Beyond parody.

00:11:38.780 It is, how would you, if you wanted to make a parody of the two lines of, of the two clips

00:11:46.040 I just played for you, how would you do it? 0.81

00:11:48.240 You couldn't, because you couldn't make it any more ridiculous than it already is. 0.75

00:11:53.420 Okay, let's see what Ayanna Pressley, otherwise known as Ringo, has to say about all of this. 0.68

00:12:03.520 The same World Bank report cited in your Libra white paper finds that almost two-thirds of

00:12:09.000 1.7 billion people who don't have bank accounts say it's because they lack enough money to open

00:12:15.280 one.

00:12:15.620 So this is not about authentication.

00:12:18.940 This is not about banking costs.

00:12:21.580 This is about a tsunami of hurt that millions are experiencing because of a $1.6 trillion student

00:12:26.820 debt crisis, because of rising health care costs and people having to use GoFundMe pages to

00:12:32.480 pay medical bills.

00:12:33.800 This is because of the racial and gender wealth gap.

00:12:39.440 So again, you represent the power, but I don't think you understand the pain.

00:12:45.620 There is underbanking because people are broke.

00:12:50.720 And so, let me just ask you this question.

00:12:53.660 Yes or no, is it free to use the Calibra wallet?

00:12:57.920 Congresswoman, the Calibra wallet isn't a service that is available today.

00:13:02.680 Assuming we are able to launch it, it will be free.

00:13:06.380 So there is no fee?

00:13:09.100 Congresswoman, that's the goal, is to make it so that... 0.98

00:13:12.680 So there is no fee?

00:13:14.220 Congresswoman, the goal is to make it...

00:13:15.380 Okay, moving on.

00:13:16.460 So if it costs money to buy Libra...

00:13:19.120 She was so proud of that line, wasn't she?

00:13:21.060 You saw the pride where she said, you represent the power, but you don't understand the pain.

00:13:27.720 Did you guys hear that?

00:13:28.760 You hear that?

00:13:29.260 But you're pretty good, huh?

00:13:30.260 Power, pain.

00:13:31.160 That's it.

00:13:31.580 We workshopped that one for a couple of days.

00:13:33.680 Pretty good stuff.

00:13:34.360 The rest of that line of questioning was, well, I don't know what it was.

00:13:39.320 Apparently, it's wrong for Zuckerberg to be involved in cryptocurrency because people are poor and okay.

00:13:47.440 What does that have to do with...

00:13:52.900 It's like if he said he was going to open a lemonade stand and they brought him in for a questioning and they said, Mr. Zuckerberg, do you know how many people are dying of thirst in Ethiopia right now?

00:14:03.580 And yet you want to make lemonade?

00:14:09.060 It just makes no sense.

00:14:10.860 But of course, to call this questioning would be doing them a favor.

00:14:14.420 This is not questioning.

00:14:15.580 This was a speech that Ringo wanted to give for the benefit of cable news.

00:14:20.460 And she forged ahead with it, even though he rendered it moot by saying the service is free.

00:14:25.140 So she said...

00:14:26.140 She goes, Zuckerberg, is a service free?

00:14:28.980 Yeah, yeah, it's going to be.

00:14:30.220 Well, since it costs money, then what about poor people?

00:14:33.580 Honestly, I thought the Joker movie was going to be the most disturbing clown show this year, but the Democrats really are giving it a run for its money.

00:14:44.660 They really are.

00:14:46.400 And we haven't even gotten to the star of the circus just yet, AOC.

00:14:51.560 First, let's take a minute and watch her pretend to be Jack McCoy. 1.00

00:14:56.120 Mr. Zuckerberg, what year and month did you personally first become aware of Cambridge Analytica?

00:15:03.580 I'm not sure of the exact time, but it was probably around the time when it became public.

00:15:13.080 I think it was around March of 2018.

00:15:15.600 I could be wrong, though.

00:15:17.280 When did Facebook COO Sheryl Sandberg become aware of Cambridge Analytica?

00:15:22.880 I don't know off the top of my head.

00:15:24.220 You don't know.

00:15:25.560 Did anyone on your leadership team know about Cambridge Analytica prior to the initial report by The Guardian on December 11, 2015?

00:15:34.940 Congresswoman, I believe so, in that some folks were tracking it internally.

00:15:41.980 I'm actually, as you're asking this, I do think I was aware of Cambridge Analytica as an entity earlier.

00:15:48.740 I don't know if I was tracking how they were using Facebook specifically.

00:15:52.500 When was the issue discussed with your board member, Peter Thiel?

00:15:57.900 Congresswoman, I don't know that often.

00:15:59.720 You don't know?

00:16:00.240 This was the largest data scandal with respect to your company that had catastrophic impacts on the 2016 election.

00:16:05.900 You don't know?

00:16:07.380 Well, Congresswoman, I'm sure we discussed it after we were aware of what happened.

00:16:13.420 Okay.

00:16:13.700 It's almost cute in a way, isn't it?

00:16:16.440 You see that.

00:16:17.100 You think, oh, she thinks she's pretending that this is law and order.

00:16:20.280 She thinks she's, oh, let her go. 0.99

00:16:22.340 She's pretending she's a lawyer. 0.99

00:16:24.140 Don't interrupt.

00:16:26.120 Yeah, but this isn't a trial.

00:16:27.660 It's a, let her have her fun.

00:16:28.920 Let her have her fun. 1.00

00:16:32.240 Asking for the precise day and time when he found out.

00:16:35.940 What?

00:16:37.400 Once again, who cares?

00:16:38.980 What does that have to do with cryptocurrency and how could he possibly know the answer to that question?

00:16:45.420 Now, let's fast forward a bit and get to AOC's irrelevant speech about the dangers of conservative websites.

00:16:52.940 One question.

00:16:54.160 One more question.

00:16:54.880 In your ongoing dinner parties with far-right figures, some of who advanced the conspiracy theory that white supremacy is a hoax,

00:17:01.960 did you discuss so-called social media bias against conservatives and do you believe there is a bias?

00:17:07.220 Congresswoman, I don't remember everything that was in the question.

00:17:14.840 That's all right.

00:17:15.180 I'll move on.

00:17:15.740 Can you explain why you've named the Daily Caller a publication well-documented with ties to white supremacists as an official fact-checker for Facebook?

00:17:25.300 Congresswoman, sure. 0.57

00:17:26.340 We actually don't appoint the independent fact-checkers.

00:17:28.720 They go through an independent organization called the Independent Fact-Checking Network that has a rigorous standard for who they allow to serve as a fact-checker.

00:17:39.220 So, you would say that white supremacist-tied publications meet a rigorous standard for fact-checking?

00:17:48.320 Thank you.

00:17:52.700 Congresswoman, I would say that we're not the one assessing that standard.

00:17:56.980 The International Fact-Checking Network is the one who is setting that standard.

00:18:01.420 Once again, nothing at all to do with the subject.

00:18:04.320 These are not questions.

00:18:05.560 They are speeches. 0.99

00:18:06.620 And her smear of Daily Caller is absurd, dishonest, despicable, white supremacist-tied website. 1.00

00:18:13.760 What is she talking about? 1.00

00:18:15.620 And they don't—you've got to remember, these people are such liars, and this woman in particular is such a ridiculous, incompetent liar that there is no attempt made to justify any of the lies being told. 1.00

00:18:33.260 None of them are worried about the fact that they're telling obvious lies. 0.99

00:18:36.500 They'll just—at this point—now, even 10 years ago, it would have been kind of unthinkable for—to have Democrats just directly calling all of their political opponents white supremacists and racists and everything.

00:18:56.420 Don't get me wrong, they would have implied it very strongly.

00:18:58.900 But this is kind of a new thing, where you've got these prominent Democrats that have no problem going out and calling everyone—straight up calling them white supremacists. 0.76

00:19:08.560 No evidence, no reason at all to be saying that, but you're a white supremacist.

00:19:15.760 And if the Daily Caller was a white supremacist website, what bearing would that have on the cryptocurrency thing we're talking about?

00:19:24.480 It wouldn't.

00:19:25.280 All right.

00:19:28.180 Let's move on.

00:19:29.820 What else?

00:19:30.600 Well, I wanted to mention this real quick.

00:19:33.080 It's not a huge deal, but yesterday you may have caught wind of some outrage at LeBron James because he allegedly disrespected the anthem.

00:19:42.380 Some people on social media were passing around this video of LeBron screaming during the anthem, and apparently this is offensive and unpatriotic, and it's a sign that he's a communist and so on.

00:19:54.160 According to the outraged masses that I saw online.

00:19:57.720 And, well, let's play the video first, and you tell me if this is offensive and unpatriotic.

00:20:04.500 Let's go! 0.53

00:20:05.360 Now, look, I think LeBron's antics with respect to China were shameful and wrong and cowardly, and I said so. 0.97

00:20:21.760 I disagree with a lot of the political and social stans that he takes, but this line of attack against him about the anthem is pretty silly. 0.84

00:20:30.640 I have to assume that all these people, and there were, this was not an invented outrage.

00:20:36.880 Now, it may be invented in the sense that the people who are acting outraged aren't really and are just pretending.

00:20:43.600 I think that's probably the case because that's 90% of the outrages that happen online. 0.68

00:20:52.520 People are just pretending because they've got nothing better to do.

00:20:55.380 But there were at least a lot of people acting as if LeBron had done something wrong here.

00:21:01.140 And I have to assume that all those people have never been to a ball game before, any ball game, baseball, basketball, football, hockey.

00:21:08.300 Hockey isn't a ball game.

00:21:09.460 Puck game, whatever.

00:21:11.080 Because this is really, really normal.

00:21:13.260 At the end of the anthem, as it's finishing, which was the case here, the anthem was finishing, people start cheering, and the athletes will often do exactly what LeBron did there.

00:21:21.620 They start pumping up the crowd, let's go, doing all that.

00:21:24.520 Very normal.

00:21:25.520 It happens everywhere, I assure you.

00:21:27.500 It is a normal thing.

00:21:28.980 Nothing, it's not an unpatriotic statement, nothing like that.

00:21:33.260 This is just what people do at stadiums, where the last few lines of the anthem are kind of drowned out by applause.

00:21:40.320 And that's fine.

00:21:42.480 You'd have to really be kind of a stick in the mud to go to a ball game, and people are cheering, and you're going,

00:21:48.520 hey, hey, pipe down, folks, pipe down.

00:21:51.620 What do you think this is, a stadium?

00:21:54.720 No, it's just people, it's not a statement against the anthem.

00:21:58.080 People are feeding off with a patriotic vibe, and they're saying, yeah, let's go, come on.

00:22:02.100 You know, they're getting into it.

00:22:04.220 They're using the anthem as part of that.

00:22:06.220 Now, if you're not allowed to respond to the anthem that way, if the anthem is such a sacred, solemn thing that it's a communist to cheer during it,

00:22:21.300 then, well, you know what?

00:22:22.160 Maybe we should be singing the anthem at stadiums before ballgames in the first place, because people are there to watch a sport.

00:22:29.540 They're all wearing jerseys.

00:22:30.820 They're getting into it.

00:22:31.740 And so I think that's perfectly fine.

00:22:33.700 It's like if you ever go to a game in Baltimore, whether baseball or a football game,

00:22:37.820 this is also a common tradition where at the very end of the anthem, where it says,

00:22:42.420 oh, say does that star-spangled banner yet wave, people will shout O on the O line,

00:22:47.340 and then because of O's, Baltimore Orioles, and then everyone cheers through the last few lines of the anthem.

00:22:53.520 Pretty normal stuff.

00:22:54.900 I don't think this is worth getting upset about.

00:22:58.140 Okay, one other thing here before we get to emails.

00:23:01.080 I thought this was pretty revealing.

00:23:02.560 Bob Eger, CEO of Disney, was asked about the criticisms by Scorsese and Coppola, Martin Scorsese, Francis Ford Coppola,

00:23:11.580 of Marvel movies.

00:23:12.720 Scorsese correctly said that Marvel movies are not real cinema.

00:23:16.060 They're just theme park rides, essentially.

00:23:18.700 And Francis Ford Coppola correctly pointed out that Marvel movies are also despicable.

00:23:23.880 And Bob Eger is the guy who runs Disney and thus Marvel.

00:23:26.560 He was not a fan of these comments, not surprisingly.

00:23:30.040 And he was asked about it during some kind of thing, some kind of panel that he was on yesterday.

00:23:38.320 And I thought that his answer was, as I said, pretty revealing.

00:23:45.320 Listen to this.

00:23:46.480 I just don't, I'm puzzled by it.

00:23:50.020 If they want to bitch about movies, it's certainly they're right.

00:23:53.540 I don't know.

00:23:54.340 I don't know.

00:23:54.740 I just don't, I don't understand.

00:23:57.560 It seems so disrespectful to all the people that work on those films who are working just as hard as the people who work on their films

00:24:06.260 and are putting their creative souls on the line just like they are.

00:24:11.160 You tell me Ryan Coogler making Black Panther is doing something that is somehow or another less than what Marty Scorsese or Francis Ford Coppola,

00:24:19.860 Francis Ford Coppola have ever done on any one of their movies?

00:24:23.400 Like, come on.

00:24:25.020 Yeah, I said it.

00:24:29.660 Yeah.

00:24:30.500 So he says, to answer his question, his question is,

00:24:34.300 can Black Panther be considered anything less than what Scorsese or Francis Ford Coppola have ever done?

00:24:43.340 The answer is yes.

00:24:44.560 It is definitely less than that.

00:24:46.420 I think anyone with the slightest knowledge of movies would agree.

00:24:52.560 It doesn't mean that Black Panther was bad.

00:24:55.440 I haven't seen Black Panther.

00:24:57.460 I can't imagine that Black Panther was actually anywhere near as good as people pretend that it was. 0.82

00:25:02.720 But regardless, there is just, having not seen it, I feel that I can still very confidently say

00:25:10.280 that it is less than, say, The Godfather or Goodfellas, which are cinematic masters.

00:25:15.440 The Godfather, The Godfather is the best movie ever made, in my opinion.

00:25:21.320 I think anyone would put it at least in the top five.

00:25:24.000 So is Black Panther less than that?

00:25:26.020 Yes, it definitely is.

00:25:27.920 But the fact that the guy who runs this movie studio, the guy who's in charge of everything,

00:25:37.040 the fact that he thinks these two are the same, that he can't see a difference between them

00:25:42.080 in terms of cinematic quality, should really tell you something.

00:25:47.760 And I think that this only further vindicates what Scorsese and Coppola are saying.

00:25:51.920 That these people, they literally don't know what good cinema is.

00:25:57.740 They can't tell the difference between a movie about people in spandex running around fighting

00:26:03.980 bad guys, a movie that's made for 12-year-old boys.

00:26:07.420 They can't tell the difference between that and a cinematic masterpiece.

00:26:12.420 To them, it's all the same.

00:26:15.140 Kind of tells you everything you need to know.

00:26:16.860 All right, mattwalshow at gmail.com.

00:26:18.700 mattwalshow at gmail.com is the email address.

00:26:23.520 This is from Matt.

00:26:27.400 It says, is it me or does anyone else find it weird that the left endorses a stigma-free society?

00:26:32.660 However, it seems that they only endorse it for socially acceptable mental health issues. 0.80

00:26:37.460 Meaning the right says transgenderism is a mental health condition. 0.88

00:26:42.360 Or Michael Knoll says it is immorality to use a mentally ill child as a spokesperson for 0.99

00:26:46.480 climate change policy.

00:26:47.240 Then the left gets irate with these statements because they feel we aren't accepting.

00:26:51.740 Wouldn't they then be stigmatizing if they are the ones, when we say mental illness, they 1.00

00:26:56.120 think of it as a slander?

00:26:57.680 I feel that by them being accepting of transgenderism, that makes them stigmatize mental illness when

00:27:03.780 someone calls them out on it.

00:27:05.320 That is a really good point.

00:27:06.560 Now, so I can see why your name is Matt.

00:27:09.360 Maybe I will take, I think maybe I'll just plagiarize your point.

00:27:12.280 I'll pretend that I wrote this email.

00:27:13.420 No, that really is a good point.

00:27:15.840 That, and this was, there's a hashtag thing going on Twitter right now.

00:27:21.120 And I think it's hashtag end the stigma.

00:27:23.360 And it's all about ending the stigma of mental illness.

00:27:25.400 As you point out, this is something that the left talks about a lot.

00:27:30.140 Got to get rid of this.

00:27:31.200 They're always trying to tear down stigmas, whether real or imagined. 0.99

00:27:35.020 And this is one of the stigmas that they focus on.

00:27:37.740 And I agree that mental health conditions, mental illnesses should not be stigmatized

00:27:43.540 in the sense that we shouldn't alienate or discriminate against people who suffer from

00:27:50.420 a condition that they can't help.

00:27:54.060 On the other end of the spectrum, though, that doesn't mean that we should glamorize mental

00:27:58.480 illness or make it seem like something desirable or turn it into social capital that you can

00:28:05.000 trade in for social benefits.

00:28:08.860 We shouldn't do that either.

00:28:10.860 We shouldn't glorify mental illness. 0.92

00:28:12.280 And the problem is, and I know this wasn't your point, but the problem is that very often

00:28:16.580 when someone talks about ending the stigma of such and such thing, what they're really

00:28:22.280 trying to do is glorify that thing.

00:28:24.480 So they're going beyond ending the stigma.

00:28:27.480 They're not trying to just make it neutral, where we all have a neutral, objective view

00:28:32.100 of this thing, whatever it is.

00:28:33.440 They're trying to glorify it.

00:28:34.880 And that has happened with respect to mental illness in this country, which is why everybody 1.00

00:28:40.220 in the country claims to have some kind of mental illness.

00:28:44.040 And if you argue, you know, someone says, I have this, whatever, and it's a mental illness.

00:28:51.120 And if you say, well, you know, I don't know if that really is a mental illness.

00:28:55.100 Maybe it's not.

00:28:55.880 They get very offended that you're trying to take their mental illness from them.

00:28:59.220 So I've gotten into trouble before when we've talked about, for example, anxiety.

00:29:05.600 Anxiety is treated like a mental disorder now.

00:29:08.580 And I've made the argument that anxiety, I have a lot of anxiety, okay?

00:29:13.400 Maybe that doesn't surprise you.

00:29:15.980 So if it is a mental illness, then I guess I have it. 0.99

00:29:19.320 But I don't think it's a mental illness.

00:29:21.560 I think it's a normal thing that human beings deal with.

00:29:24.800 And some people have more anxiety than others.

00:29:27.940 And sometimes your anxiety can be rather crippling.

00:29:30.100 That doesn't mean it's a mental illness, though.

00:29:32.700 It's a normal part of the human condition.

00:29:36.220 And there are all kinds of things that are part of the human condition that people are

00:29:41.300 going to have to varying degrees.

00:29:46.040 And I think it's a problem.

00:29:49.220 Now I'm going way off of what you talked about, but I'll circle back around.

00:29:52.780 Just bear with me.

00:29:53.320 And it's a problem, I think, when you take something that is a normal part of the human

00:30:00.040 condition and you say that, yeah, this is normal, but if you have it too much, then all

00:30:07.820 of a sudden it becomes a disorder.

00:30:08.980 Well, what counts as too much?

00:30:11.020 Now you're drawing some arbitrary line based on nothing.

00:30:14.280 It's just based on a totally subjective arbitrary line where beyond that line is a disorder and

00:30:20.540 below that line is normal.

00:30:21.820 And so we do this with ADHD, we do this with depression, we do this with all these things.

00:30:27.040 Now I have an issue with that.

00:30:29.600 I think that that's a problem.

00:30:33.360 I think there are problems with that.

00:30:34.620 Now, but the interesting thing is anytime I have this discussion, whether it's anxiety,

00:30:39.760 depression, ADD, people get offended when you suggest that maybe it's not a mental disorder.

00:30:46.860 Why is that offensive?

00:30:49.400 Do you want it to be?

00:30:51.360 Why would you want it to be?

00:30:53.280 Now, I could be wrong.

00:30:54.660 Maybe I'm right.

00:30:55.500 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:30:57.700 Maybe you're right. 0.98

00:30:58.160 Maybe it really is a mental disorder.

00:30:59.240 But why are you clinging to it as if it's this thing that you really want?

00:31:03.720 That that's what gives me the hint that mental disorders now have become a glamorized thing

00:31:09.060 that people some for some reason actually want, because otherwise I can't make sense of that.

00:31:14.340 And by the way, to say that, again, using the example of anxiety, to say that that's not a mental disorder,

00:31:23.320 that's not trivializing it.

00:31:26.040 I would argue it trivializes it to call it a mental disorder, because now you're just slapping a label on it,

00:31:31.520 you're medicalizing it, you're treating it like some simple thing that can be medicated.

00:31:36.740 And my point is, I think it's deeper than that.

00:31:39.460 And so I'm doing the opposite of trivializing it.

00:31:44.140 Anyway, in terms of your point, I agree that if we are destigmatizing mental disorders,

00:31:53.500 then why is it an insult to suggest, as you said, if someone says transgenderism is a mental health issue?

00:32:01.840 Michael Knoll said, pointed out accurately, that Greta Thunberg suffers from various mental illnesses,

00:32:11.380 which is what the media has been telling us about her. 0.95

00:32:14.760 So how is that an insult?

00:32:16.700 If you treat that as an insult, then as you say, aren't you the one that is now stigmatizing mental illness?

00:32:24.780 Great point.

00:32:26.660 From Kayla says, my husband and I are huge fans of the show.

00:32:29.180 The past few days, we've been fuming alongside you and whatever sane people are still left in this country over this whole James Younger case in Texas.

00:32:36.820 I wanted to share an analogy with you that I think applies well and you should use with regards to the whole transgender child abuse going on around in our country. 1.00

00:32:43.400 I wonder how many people would agree that parents should not take their young children to get tattoos.

00:32:48.060 If a five-year-old wants a dragon tattooed onto their face, should the parents oblige?

00:32:52.280 I think most people would agree that they shouldn't.

00:32:54.640 Why?

00:32:54.920 Because children will make dumb decisions that they'll regret later in life, and it's the parents' job in some sense to protect them from this,

00:33:00.520 and yet tattoos are much less of a catastrophic and irreversible long-term bodily alteration than puberty blockers slash hormones slash chemical castration.

00:33:08.440 Thoughts?

00:33:09.800 Yeah, I completely agree.

00:33:11.140 I think I made this similar point yesterday.

00:33:13.220 Where they're all, look, tattoos, all kinds of things.

00:33:19.660 We don't let, if we're talking about five-year-old kids, six-year-old kids, seven-year-old kids, eight-year-old kids,

00:33:25.300 we don't let them make really any decisions for themselves.

00:33:30.740 There's really no aspect of a young child's life that we allow them to exercise complete control over.

00:33:39.620 They are not autonomous in any sense, and they can't be because they don't have the psychological maturity for it.

00:33:49.020 Our goal as parents, when our kids are young, is to get them to a point where, when they're 18, 19, 20,

00:33:57.240 now they can actually be basically self-sufficient adults who make choices for themselves.

00:34:03.280 We are, as children, though, we are equipping them for that moment to send them out into the wild, wild world and say,

00:34:10.120 okay, now it's up to you to run your own life for the most part.

00:34:15.740 But as kids, they don't do that.

00:34:17.300 So, yeah, you could bring up tattoos, anything.

00:34:20.780 There are literally a million examples of things we don't let our eight-year-old kids do, five-year-old kids do,

00:34:28.440 anyone that age, decisions we don't let them make.

00:34:30.760 We don't let them vote, we don't let them get tattoos, we don't let them drive, 1.00

00:34:35.400 we don't let them sign, put their names on mortgages, we don't let them vote,

00:34:41.860 we don't let them buy, I think I said vote already, we don't let them buy guns,

00:34:44.760 we don't let them drink alcohol, we don't let them do anything.

00:34:49.320 it is a we it is a crime obviously if someone has has uh sexually abuses you know they are too

00:35:02.020 young children at at that age are far too young for sexual activity we all agree

00:35:07.440 why is that and that's another thing that really concerns me i'm not the only one to bring this up

00:35:16.000 that's the other thing that really concerns me about saying that a child a prepubescent child

00:35:22.760 is old enough to make these kinds of decisions about their so-called gender identity

00:35:28.440 i think that this is ultimately all wrapped up in an effort to sexualize children

00:35:37.860 which will contribute to the normal the normalization of pedophilia

00:35:44.740 our whole point about why children prepubescent children are too young for sexual activity

00:35:54.280 the whole reason we say that is because they don't have the mental capacity

00:36:00.940 to actually consent to something like that

00:36:05.580 that's our whole point

00:36:09.780 so it makes no sense at all to agree that they don't have the mental capacity to do any of those

00:36:21.240 things or to consent to any of that stuff or to make any of those choices yet they do have the mental

00:36:27.720 capacity to choose their own gender that makes no sense so what really concerns me is that the people 0.80

00:36:34.280 are saying oh they do have the mental capacity to choose their own gender but yeah all these other 1.00

00:36:39.540 things they don't i think what we're going to find is that over time gradually those people start

00:36:47.420 saying that oh well no maybe kids can do that and that and that and that and we see where that leads

00:36:53.760 okay this is from mark says matt you're very critical of superhero films i don't necessarily

00:37:00.320 disagree but do you like any of them have you ever seen one that was worthwhile in your judgment

00:37:04.520 yeah i i've seen a few superhero movies that i think are would qualify as good films everyone points

00:37:12.240 to the christopher nolan uh batman trilogy i yeah i think those were pretty high quality i do think the

00:37:19.120 dark knight is an overrated movie because it's all really on the strength of heath ledger's performance

00:37:26.120 which obviously was phenomenal but i think if you take that performance out of the movie it's a

00:37:31.300 pretty standard by the numbers superhero film other than that maybe even kind of subpar in a way

00:37:37.500 because some of the other performances that two-face erin eckhart as two-face was actually

00:37:42.360 that was a pretty terrible performance and a horrible iteration of that villain i think

00:37:49.500 not to mention he was two-faced for about five seconds and then they killed him

00:37:53.660 so there are a lot of other things going on with that movie that were kind of clunky and clumsy and 0.66

00:37:58.200 dumb but we don't remember any of that and we're not bothered by it just because that performance was

00:38:04.360 so breathtaking and memorable and iconic so you take that out but okay but still i would say that 0.50

00:38:09.840 trilogy is an example um maybe there have been a few others i logan the you know marvel has made at

00:38:18.140 least one superhero film that was an actual real movie and i think the movie logan which which

00:38:23.640 i actually did watch last year i thought that was a pretty good one and i'll tell you another one

00:38:28.780 um well it's like the the cartoon spider-man film that came out last year maybe it was this year

00:38:37.040 and did really well at the box into the spider-verse i took my son to go see that

00:38:42.540 and it was about 30 minutes too long as these movies always are but i thought it was an enjoyable

00:38:48.720 entertaining movie and the thing i liked about it it was i think it was rated pg you know it's a

00:38:53.120 kid's movie and that's what i liked about it because i think there should be you know okay

00:38:58.540 you've got you've got the superhero films that like the movie logan that's rated r that's supposed to be

00:39:03.480 more mature and and for adults okay that's fine um and then you've got superhero movies that are really

00:39:10.360 made for 13 year olds but a bunch of adults watch them anyway okay there should be superhero movies

00:39:15.800 that are made for six and seven year old boys i should be able to take my son to a superhero movie

00:39:23.480 and i think that's an underserved audience so that's what i liked about into into the spider-verse i

00:39:29.800 thought that was a it was a solid film appropriate for kids and uh but that won't make an adult want to

00:39:37.640 rip his hair out so that's an achievement i would say finally uh this is from i didn't put the name

00:39:46.020 down so i'm not sure who this is from says hello future supreme malevolent dictator what are your

00:39:50.400 thoughts about women posting pictures of themselves breastfeeding online some women seem to think it 0.97

00:39:55.380 will help desexualize and normalize the practice but i think it's inappropriate and actually sexualizes

00:40:00.640 it even more uh i recently wrote a blog post about it and received a lot of pushback by people who seem

00:40:06.220 to think a lot of my points were horrifyingly offensive what are your thoughts on the subject

00:40:10.740 this is a subject that if i knew it was good for me if i had if i had any prudence and wisdom i would

00:40:16.320 avoid this subject uh because no matter where i go with it especially as a man it'll get me into

00:40:22.000 trouble there's really no advantage to me chiming in on a subject like this but that's if i had prudence

00:40:28.980 and wisdom i have neither of those things so i will just forge ahead and i'll say that um

00:40:33.920 i basically agree with you i think that yes i i think that breastfeeding should should not be 0.93

00:40:42.500 stigmatized some women say that it is i i haven't really noticed that i don't and it's not just

00:40:50.820 because i'm a man either this is something i've talked to my wife about my wife we have four kids

00:40:54.200 she's breastfed all the kids and uh she has often kind of wondered this because some of the women that 1.00

00:41:01.100 she hangs out with will talk about the stigma of breastfeeding and my wife will say what's stigma 0.91

00:41:05.800 no one's saying you can't breastfeed i don't think there's a stigma so i i'm kind of i'm with my wife

00:41:13.000 on that one it's probably a good subject for me to defer to my wife too i suppose so if there is a

00:41:18.640 stigma on breastfeeding if it exists anywhere it shouldn't be stigmatized it is a natural healthy

00:41:24.280 good thing for a mother to do however um does that mean that 0.60

00:41:33.040 we shouldn't practice any kind of modesty when when breastfeeding i i don't see that

00:41:41.980 and to make a point of it to to make breastfeeding into uh you know you say that when they post the 0.96

00:41:50.560 pictures that it sexualizes it i don't know if i would go that far but it does just strike me as

00:41:55.860 bizarre you're feeding your kid you're saying it's a normal natural thing so just do it why do you need

00:42:01.060 to make a point of it why do you need to make it into a political statement because either breastfeeding

00:42:06.520 is no big deal and a natural thing or it's a big deal but if it's a no big deal and a natural thing

00:42:11.100 then then do what you got to do you're at home you don't need to put it all on social media

00:42:14.700 i just find that to be totally weird and and and yeah inappropriate you don't even if it's not a

00:42:22.420 big deal don't make a big deal out of it um and yeah i if you're out in public i don't see what's

00:42:33.540 wrong with maybe use a nursing cover or something i i don't i don't see why that is a problem

00:42:40.280 and you know one one argument you hear is well it's a it's a natural human function okay it is but

00:42:49.620 there are a lot of natural human functions that we don't necessarily do out in the open calling

00:42:56.160 attention to it there are a lot of things in that category and then the other argument as well the

00:43:03.440 breasts are not a sexual organ and breastfeeding is not a sexual thing yeah breastfeeding is not a 1.00

00:43:10.280 but again that doesn't necessarily mean you know if you go to a restaurant most restaurants in the

00:43:16.560 country they're they're going to tell you you can't come into the restaurant without shoes on

00:43:20.560 now does that mean that is that because bare feet are a sexual thing are they telling you to cover your

00:43:26.880 feet in shame because there might be some weird foot fetishist in the in the in the restaurant who

00:43:32.540 just can't handle seeing your feet no it's just we you don't go into a restaurant with bare feet

00:43:38.740 you're supposed to cover your feet it's a it's what we do in a civilized society

00:43:42.200 uh doesn't mean we're ashamed of feet doesn't mean we're stigmatizing them nothing wrong with

00:43:49.540 having feet we all have them but usually when you're out in public you cover them at least a

00:43:57.400 little bit so i would put it in that camp and i think i'll just stop talking about that now

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The Matt Walsh Show - October 24, 2019

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