The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 357 - The Katie Hill Saga Continues

00:00:00.620 This is pretty stunning news, I have to say. I just wasn't expecting this. I completely blindsided.

00:00:07.600 Tim Ryan has ended his presidential campaign. I am floored, I think like everybody else.

00:00:14.300 Yesterday when this was announced, I left my house and I saw people walking through the streets in a daze.

00:00:22.120 All of their hopes and dreams dashed in an instant.

00:00:25.120 And because without the promise of a Tim Ryan presidency, what point is there anymore?

00:00:31.440 What reason do we have to continue? What hope do we have? Where do we go next?

00:00:38.040 Also, follow-up question, who the hell is Tim Ryan?

00:00:42.280 And I suppose now we'll never find out. And that maybe is the greatest tragedy in all of this.

00:00:48.000 OK, moving though from tragedy to, I think, a good outcome, at least as good of an outcome as we could have hoped for.

00:00:55.620 The judge in the James Younger case has effectively nullified the jury verdict by giving the father joint conservatorship over his son, which includes having a say in the boy's, quote, transition.

00:01:06.320 You remember earlier in the week, the jury decision gave the mother full custody and the ability to make all the decisions, including medical decisions, which means that she could facilitate this, quote unquote, transition of her son into a girl.

00:01:20.160 Well, the judge, though, I suppose, has basically overturned that and said that, no, the father will will have a say, which is which is good.

00:01:29.940 As I said, it's as good of an outcome as I think we could have reasonably hoped for.

00:01:36.860 Now, it's not all good. She did gag the father and the mother so they can't talk to the media.

00:01:42.180 She kicked all the media out of the courtroom before giving this verdict, although I'm told by LifeSite News, LifeSite News and a website called The Texan have both been following this case.

00:01:56.940 They've been on the ground there reporting on it and for most of the time doing great work reporting on this case.

00:02:03.820 And for almost all that time, the mass media had no interest in the case whatsoever.

00:02:08.260 For the last few days, the media has been paying more attention because we sort of forced them to pay attention.

00:02:15.160 But so you can imagine their outrage. I was just listening to some of the LifeSite people, for example.

00:02:24.000 Imagine their outrage that they've been following this case.

00:02:27.340 Because now we get to the to the moment, the big moment, and they're kicked out of the courtroom while, according to a LifeSite reporter, a camera from one of the people from I think the local CBS affiliate was invited into the.

00:02:43.500 They were allowed to be there, but all the reporters that had been there the whole time, they couldn't be there.

00:02:48.460 So that's no good. But at least the father will have some ability now to protect his son, which is obviously what we were fighting for.

00:03:04.240 And at the same time, we not only forced the media to pay attention to this issue, but we got the Texas governor took notice of it, various other people in positions of power.

00:03:16.620 Here's the thing, though. The public cannot be mobilized every time a child's gender confusion is encouraged and amplified by his abusive parents.

00:03:28.040 This is happening more and more in this country as more and more minors follow the trend of identifying as transgender, because I'm sure it's just a coincidence. 0.99

00:03:39.720 Transgenderism is a is a natural phenomenon, we're told.

00:03:43.320 But somehow, coincidentally, as it's talked about more and been more accepted in the media, it becomes this trendy thing.

00:03:50.400 You've got more and more minors that discover that they're transgender. What a coincidence. 1.00

00:03:54.240 But as this is happening, we're not going to be able to protect them all from being prescribed puberty blockers, which is chemical castration.

00:04:05.820 And we're not going to be able to do this every single time there's a case like this, especially because in most of these cases, you don't have one of the parents trying to step in to stop it.

00:04:17.960 In most of these cases, either there's there's one parent doing it and the other one's not in the picture.

00:04:23.720 The dad's not in the picture. I suspect that's the case a lot of the time.

00:04:27.040 Or both parents are on board with abusing their child and turning them into some other gender. 0.97

00:04:33.680 And this is why Republicans in Congress need to act. Now's the time to do it.

00:04:39.600 It is it is there is no situation where it could ever be morally, ethically, medically, scientifically justified to give a physically healthy child drugs, suppressing his normal development simply because he's confused about his biological identity.

00:04:52.780 There is never a time where that is not a horrifically wrong and deranged and abusive thing to do to a child.

00:05:00.460 And so it shouldn't be hard for Republicans in the Senate to come up with a bill that bans the chemical castration of children.

00:05:09.440 You can even call it that in the bill, the anti child castration amendment or whatever you want to call it.

00:05:15.900 And it would be a very accurate way of describing the bill. And it would be a bill that who could it would be a very politically risky thing for the Democrats to oppose a bill like that.

00:05:28.260 I'm sure they would. And let them do it. Let them come out and explain.

00:05:32.220 Let them make the case for child castration. 0.99

00:05:37.160 Republicans, if they have any sense, they'll put the Democrats in the position of having to do that.

00:05:41.880 All right. Moving on again, the the Katie Hill story.

00:05:44.860 It's interesting that there's been kind of a saga this week because we started this week, which feels now like it started five years ago.

00:05:53.460 But we started the week talking about the Katie Hill scandal and James Younger and remarking about how the media wasn't paying attention to either case.

00:06:00.380 Now, at the end of the week, these are two of the biggest stories in the country.

00:06:04.500 And I think that's at least partly because we forced the media to pay attention to these stories.

00:06:09.920 As for Hill, the story has also been helped along significantly by yesterday, a Daily Mail article published, which contains a whole mess of new photographs and text messages, which the Daily Mail, quote, obtained.

00:06:25.320 They don't specify how exactly. Some of these pictures are, again, of Hill sans clothing in various compromising positions.

00:06:37.300 One shows her with a bong and it reveals, strangely enough, what appears to be an Iron Cross tattoo.

00:06:44.640 And she's naked in that picture. 0.92

00:06:46.860 And there are there are there are even more photos that the Daily Mail says they have, but they haven't published.

00:06:53.120 And those sound like they're even more explicit, shall we say.

00:06:57.780 The 20 the 22 year old female staffer that she was sexually involved with. 1.00

00:07:02.500 Has also been revealed and her name's been put out there.

00:07:06.040 I'm not going to mention her name because I don't think it's relevant.

00:07:09.460 And the new photos have whereas the first photo that came out of Hill naked brushing some staffer's hair, the the the face of the staffer was blurred out.

00:07:20.800 Now we've got all these pictures and the face is not blurred out anymore.

00:07:23.600 They're they're putting that out there.

00:07:25.940 All right.

00:07:27.900 With all this new stuff, I think there are two issues.

00:07:30.620 One is the fact that Hill has been involved in this activity, activity which, as I've argued throughout the week, is unethical at a minimum, potentially illegal, certainly dangerous as it opens her up to blackmail and extortion by America's enemies.

00:07:49.980 I was also interested to see that apparently Hill started this relationship with the staffer before she was hired on the campaign.

00:07:57.520 As far as I know, the Daily Mail, they're the first person to they're the first outlet to report that fact because the timeline was never completely clear.

00:08:06.380 So Hill, according to the Daily Mail, Hill got involved with this staffer and then hired her on.

00:08:14.940 So Hill was paying a sex partner thousands in campaign funds without disclosing the relationship, which is a clear misuse of funds, a clear scandal.

00:08:26.400 And yes, it is relevant to the public.

00:08:28.100 And yes, Hill should resign because of it.

00:08:30.580 We can also talk about the hypocrisy that many people have pointed out, considering that she was a vocal critic of Kavanaugh and a proponent of the Me Too movement.

00:08:42.920 And yet this is how she was carrying on, carrying on this way with subordinates, which if that doesn't count as workplace sexual harassment at a minimum, then I don't know what does. 1.00

00:08:57.520 You want to talk about sexual harassment?

00:08:59.220 Well, if if what we are seeing now documented, if that doesn't count as sexual harassment, then I don't know how you could ever accuse anybody of it.

00:09:06.960 But there's a second issue here, too, which I think complicates matters slightly.

00:09:15.560 And that is the fact that these personal photos, this revenge porn, essentially, was released to the media and published in the first place.

00:09:26.380 Now, a couple of these pictures were apparently actually posted online on a on a forum where spouses share naked pictures of each other with the world.

00:09:36.340 And that's a thing now that people do.

00:09:39.680 I don't know if she if Hill knew that those photos were going on that forum.

00:09:45.520 I assume she did.

00:09:46.900 I'm not sure.

00:09:47.500 But this goes back to when she was still with her husband because she was with her husband and this this other girl at the same time.

00:09:55.500 At any rate.

00:09:57.360 If naked pictures of a U.S. Congress member are willingly posted on a public forum, well, then I'd say you can't blame the public for taking notice.

00:10:05.720 And if she knew that that particular picture was going up online and she was OK with it and now that picture is everywhere online, well, that's on her.

00:10:16.120 That's her fault.

00:10:17.380 But many of these pictures were not, so far as I'm aware, posted anywhere with Katie Hill's knowledge.

00:10:24.080 They were for malicious reasons given to the media.

00:10:27.780 And that is wrong and potentially illegal as revenge porn is illegal against the law in like 40 states.

00:10:33.980 So I think it's important to strike a balance with this story.

00:10:38.880 Originally, you had the one leaked photograph with the younger woman's face blurred out.

00:10:43.860 And it was just that.

00:10:46.120 But now someone is releasing volumes and volumes, apparently, of salacious, explicit pornographic photos without, obviously, the consent of Katie Hill or her knowledge.

00:10:58.620 And we have to say, yes, what it reveals about Hill is highly problematic, troubling, unethical, potentially illegal.

00:11:07.840 But the release of the photos is also all of those things.

00:11:14.760 Problematic, troubling, unethical, potentially illegal.

00:11:18.120 And I think that's a balancing act that's important to get right here.

00:11:23.240 Because I don't think we want to be in a position of endorsing revenge porn.

00:11:29.440 And it's not because, like, I'm not sitting here trying to take the moral high ground, looking down on all the peons.

00:11:35.180 No, it's, this is, right, I think we can all agree that revenge porn is a bad thing.

00:11:40.700 We're not fans of that.

00:11:42.240 We're not putting our stamp of approval on that.

00:11:49.600 But when someone, even if they do it illegally, when they release information, even if it's information that we shouldn't know,

00:12:00.720 it's kind of like the email thing with the Democrats in 2016.

00:12:04.760 All these emails were coming out.

00:12:06.280 Well, yeah, we shouldn't, those emails shouldn't have been hacked, and they never should have been published in the first place.

00:12:12.780 But they were.

00:12:14.760 And so now we know these things.

00:12:17.340 And that matters.

00:12:18.620 We can't pretend we don't know it.

00:12:21.020 So, yes, maybe these photos never should have ended up online in the first place.

00:12:25.480 But they did.

00:12:26.960 And so now we know that she was doing that with her subordinates. 0.89

00:12:31.640 And paying them with campaign funds.

00:12:33.600 And that matters.

00:12:34.720 And so, sure, she could, look, she could go and pursue legal penalties and all of that. 0.98

00:12:40.020 Find out who leaked the photos.

00:12:41.860 And, yeah, I don't blame her for doing that.

00:12:43.440 If I was her, I'd do the same thing.

00:12:45.440 But at the same time, she should be kicked out of Congress.

00:12:50.880 Because this is, to call this inappropriate behavior from a U.S. congresswoman would be way, way, way understating it.

00:12:58.800 One other note in this, just, I have to also mention, I think probably what a lot of people are thinking is, what kind of husband posts naked pictures of his own wife online?

00:13:12.300 I'm talking about the one that was posted when they were together.

00:13:17.220 The one that, again, presumably she knew was put up. 0.99

00:13:21.420 But what kind of emasculated, cuckolded, pathetic excuse for a man do you have to be to give other men a picture of your own naked wife to be used as pornography? 0.99

00:13:33.720 That's, that's a, if this guy was in a position where he could be thrown out of somewhere or impeached or, I think he'd deserve it too. 1.00

00:13:45.440 Because that is so pathetic. 0.99

00:13:50.700 All right. 0.99

00:13:52.300 Now for the requisite war on Halloween topic.

00:13:55.700 We got to do one of these every year.

00:13:56.900 So, as we get ready for Halloween, the Daily Wire has an article up right now by Paul Bois reading in part,

00:14:02.960 According to Yahoo Lifestyle, the Evanston-Skokie School District, 65 in the Chicago suburb of Evanston, Illinois,

00:14:10.440 announced last month that Halloween celebrations alienate certain members of the staff and student body

00:14:15.400 who do not participate for religious or personal reasons, as well as those who cannot afford costumes.

00:14:21.500 As part of our school and district-wide commitment to equity,

00:14:24.640 we are focused on building community and creative, inclusive, welcoming environments for all,

00:14:28.840 the statement from the superintendent read.

00:14:30.180 While we recognize that Halloween is a fun tradition for many,

00:14:33.360 it is not a holiday that is celebrated by everyone, for various reasons,

00:14:37.800 and we want to honor that.

00:14:39.420 We are also aware of the range of inequities that are embedded in Halloween celebrations

00:14:44.480 that take place as part of the school day,

00:14:47.040 and the unintended negative impact that it can have on some students, families, and staff.

00:14:50.860 As a result, we are moving away from Halloween celebrations that include costumes and similar traditions

00:14:55.860 during the school day.

00:14:57.200 We are confident our school communities will find new and engaging ways to build community within their schools.

00:15:02.780 A range of inequities embedded in Halloween.

00:15:07.460 Yes, that's exactly what I think.

00:15:08.800 When I open the door for trick-or-treaters on Halloween,

00:15:11.420 kids knock on my door,

00:15:12.760 I open it.

00:15:14.340 Well, look at this range of inequities, 1.00

00:15:16.680 you bunch of filthy bigots. 1.00

00:15:18.220 Get off my porch! 1.00

00:15:19.680 Get out of here, you Nazis! 1.00

00:15:22.340 Don't we all respond that way? 0.98

00:15:24.300 That is not at all a really weird way to look at Halloween, is it?

00:15:27.660 A range of inequities.

00:15:31.100 Inequities and iniquities, too, if I could mention.

00:15:35.300 And then the article continues,

00:15:36.320 Over at Vermont's Burlington School District,

00:15:40.660 English Learning Director of Programs,

00:15:44.140 Miriam Edstam-Kading,

00:15:48.000 Wait,

00:15:48.980 Et-T-Sham, 0.83

00:15:49.880 E-H-T-E-S-H-A-M-DASH-C-A-T-I-N-G. 1.00

00:15:56.480 Miriam Et-T-Sham-Kading

00:15:58.140 told local reporters about the fear that people have

00:16:01.960 over culturally insensitive costumes.

00:16:05.880 Many people are made uncomfortable by the notion that you change your identity.

00:16:09.900 Hold on.

00:16:10.800 Let me back up.

00:16:12.080 Okay, so this is Et-T-Sham-Kading talking about the problem in Halloween. 0.78

00:16:15.440 Many people are made uncomfortable by the notion that you change your identity.

00:16:19.760 You turn into someone else.

00:16:22.120 And those somebody else's could represent cultural appropriations.

00:16:27.500 Yes, this is a very troubling aspect of Halloween.

00:16:29.800 You've got all these people changing their identities,

00:16:33.240 becoming witches and werewolves and vampires,

00:16:36.000 all different identities.

00:16:36.740 And that's the other thing.

00:16:39.540 When I open my door on Halloween, there's all these trick-or-treaters.

00:16:43.120 And I look at them and I say, 0.98

00:16:44.380 You frauds.

00:16:46.360 You're not really a Power Ranger. 0.96

00:16:49.360 This is a fraud over here.

00:16:53.100 Identity theft.

00:16:54.920 That's what I say. 0.76

00:16:55.660 Hey, you.

00:16:59.980 You're not Frankenstein.

00:17:01.920 Hold on.

00:17:02.800 Say, what's the big idea here?

00:17:06.700 Actually, wait.

00:17:07.380 I think there's a word.

00:17:09.000 There's a word for changing your identity in a festive way as part of a holiday tradition.

00:17:16.040 There's a word for it.

00:17:17.120 What is that?

00:17:18.120 What's the word?

00:17:18.660 Oh, yes.

00:17:18.980 It's called a costume.

00:17:20.340 Isn't that?

00:17:20.680 Yeah, a costume.

00:17:21.260 Anyway, I think there's a word for people who get offended by children's Halloween costumes.

00:17:27.420 Yes, that word is on the tip of my head. 1.00

00:17:31.080 Idiot is the word. 1.00

00:17:33.140 Halfwit. 1.00

00:17:33.660 Cretan. 0.99

00:17:34.480 Dunce. 0.99

00:17:36.520 Imbecillic. 1.00

00:17:37.080 Overly sensitive.

00:17:37.880 Puritanical.

00:17:38.520 Humorless. 0.75

00:17:39.200 Tedious.

00:17:39.720 Party-pooping. 0.99

00:17:40.700 Ridiculous. 1.00

00:17:41.320 Loudmouth. 1.00

00:17:42.660 Mutton-headed.

00:17:43.740 Scolds is another.

00:17:45.620 Well, it's more than one word.

00:17:46.700 But all of those words really would work for this.

00:17:49.080 I, I, how, there's a part of me that's so badly, you ever seen Magical School Bus, you

00:17:58.940 know Magical School Bus, a great, great show, at least the original.

00:18:02.940 They've got a new version of Magical School Bus out now.

00:18:04.660 I saw my kids watching it and I made them turn it off because it was such a disgrace compared

00:18:07.960 to the older, the better version.

00:18:09.300 Um, um, anyway, I've always, there's a part of me that's always wanted to get into a Magic

00:18:14.340 School Bus and if I could go into the mind of someone like this, someone like a Miriam

00:18:22.080 at the Shamkating, just to see what's going on in there, if anything.

00:18:27.140 But I, I, I really want to understand, maybe I don't, but, um, I don't know, maybe going

00:18:35.900 into such a mind would be like entering into a black hole.

00:18:39.480 So maybe, but I, I, how could you, how could you even see Halloween in these terms as culturally

00:18:48.160 insensitive, stealing identities, uh, I, I, I, I can't even imagine looking at it that

00:18:58.400 way.

00:19:01.020 All right.

00:19:01.500 So I wanted to chime in on one more subject before we get to emails, a Washington Post

00:19:05.200 columnist for, I've been wanting to talk about this for a couple of weeks, but it, it, other

00:19:09.540 news has gotten in the way.

00:19:12.120 A Washington Post columnist wrote a piece a couple of weeks ago that got a fair amount

00:19:15.820 of attention.

00:19:16.300 He argues that, well, the headline is poor service.

00:19:19.800 You still have to tip 20% no matter what have to.

00:19:24.860 And he goes on to say that it's our responsibility to always tip at least 20% in every situation,

00:19:30.220 even if we get bad service, because the people who work on tips depend on it for survival

00:19:35.460 and, uh, they don't get paid a living wage.

00:19:38.020 They need the tips.

00:19:39.480 So you have to cough, cough it up.

00:19:41.420 And that's the argument.

00:19:42.080 It's a familiar one you hear.

00:19:43.120 Anytime you talk about tips and people who are, have been in the service industry work

00:19:48.280 in it now or have worked in it, this is the argument you always hear.

00:19:51.020 They point out that your waiter probably isn't getting paid much of an hourly wage.

00:19:57.180 He or she needs the tips.

00:20:00.380 And so that's why you have to tip.

00:20:02.360 I myself have worked in the service industry in many capacities.

00:20:05.360 And I still say that that attitude is BS.

00:20:07.520 First of all, by this logic, when you go to a car dealership, you have to buy the most expensive car

00:20:15.500 you can possibly afford because the salesman just depends on that commission.

00:20:19.820 There might as well be a Washington Post column arguing that,

00:20:26.080 hey, if you could get a better, oh, you could get a better deal on a car too bad, pay full price.

00:20:34.820 Because a lot of car salesmen, they only get paid on commission.

00:20:38.080 I think pretty much that's the case for pretty much every car salesman,

00:20:40.920 unless they're also a manager or something.

00:20:42.420 I'm pretty sure that certainly many of them, most of them,

00:20:45.340 don't get paid much of a wage other than the commission that they earn.

00:20:51.940 And they might only sell 10 or 12 cars in a month, if that.

00:20:55.320 And they really don't make a whole lot on each car, contrary to popular belief.

00:20:59.340 Unless you're at a high-end dealership buying Lamborghinis or something,

00:21:03.060 these people are not making your average car salesman.

00:21:07.100 You might only make the equivalent of minimum wage.

00:21:09.100 So, is it your ethical duty then to spend as much as you can to make sure that he has enough to eat?

00:21:17.880 I suppose that would be a nice thing to do, but is it your responsibility?

00:21:22.240 Would anyone actually do that?

00:21:24.260 No, obviously that would be crazy.

00:21:25.980 And if you take this logic and extend it,

00:21:28.300 you've just made it so that every consumer during an average day of errands and shopping

00:21:33.460 has a moral responsibility to be bankrupt by the end of it.

00:21:37.280 So, here's what I'll say for tipping.

00:21:40.420 I actually do almost always tip waiters and food service people.

00:21:45.880 In the food service, delivery people and waiters, anyway,

00:21:50.200 I almost always tip at least 20%.

00:21:51.900 I've done both of those jobs myself.

00:21:54.620 I do have an affinity for those people.

00:21:56.600 I have an empathy for them.

00:21:58.460 And so, and it's just, you know,

00:22:01.060 this is also something that becomes generational, I think.

00:22:04.180 My dad was a big tipper.

00:22:05.440 His dad was a big, it's kind of passed down, I think, through the male line, the tipping.

00:22:11.200 And so, if your dad was a good tipper, then you probably are a good tipper.

00:22:14.260 If your dad wasn't, that's my theory.

00:22:15.840 Maybe I'll do a paper on that.

00:22:16.920 So, maybe someone should do a study on that.

00:22:18.640 So, I generally will tip 20%.

00:22:20.220 20% is my minimum.

00:22:22.620 Not because I have to,

00:22:24.740 or I have some kind of moral responsibility,

00:22:26.940 or because I owe it to the person that's handing me my food.

00:22:29.260 It's just, I want to, so I do.

00:22:30.760 And if the service is really good, then I might tip, I could go up to 30%.

00:22:35.880 I could go up to 40%.

00:22:37.040 I could go up to 50%.

00:22:38.600 If I'm really feeling generous, and you really blew my socks off with your service,

00:22:44.600 then who knows?

00:22:46.300 Sky's the limit.

00:22:47.040 Point is, if you're serving me, and I tip you,

00:22:53.440 and this is just a hint,

00:22:55.860 that if you work in the service industry,

00:22:58.680 and I ever happen to come sit down in your restaurant,

00:23:02.140 and you're serving me,

00:23:03.360 and I tip you less than 20%,

00:23:05.660 that's a hint that you were really, really, really bad.

00:23:10.120 You have to really earn it for me to give a bad tip.

00:23:12.900 I think I've maybe, I've given no tip maybe two or three times in my life,

00:23:19.020 and that was only because the service was so miserably, aggressively bad,

00:23:23.180 that I had no choice.

00:23:24.280 I felt like I was backed into a corner,

00:23:25.920 and I could not justify leaving even one cent.

00:23:28.660 As much as I wanted to, I couldn't.

00:23:31.420 But usually for run-of-the-mill bad service,

00:23:33.280 I'll give out 10% or 15%.

00:23:34.580 But I also try to be cognizant.

00:23:36.240 This is one of the reasons why I don't penalize on tips as often as some people do,

00:23:40.540 is because having done these jobs,

00:23:41.900 I realize that many times the things that we get mad at the waiters for,

00:23:45.540 food's coming out late,

00:23:47.740 you get your appetizer at the same time as your entree,

00:23:50.860 that really annoys me.

00:23:52.280 I hate that.

00:23:54.740 You order your steak medium rare, but it comes out well done.

00:23:59.820 Most of that stuff, that goes to the kitchen.

00:24:01.900 That probably wasn't the waiter's fault.

00:24:04.020 And so to penalize the waiter for that, I think, is not fair.

00:24:06.460 All that said, the problem, though, and again, but it's not an entitlement thing.

00:24:16.380 So if you feel entitled to the tip, even if my baseline is 20, you still have to earn it.

00:24:22.540 And the advantage to working in something based on tips is that you can, yeah, it means that you're not getting the hourly wage that some people are getting.

00:24:34.560 But it's really up to you.

00:24:37.420 I think if you're getting, if it's a busy night, if you're working at a restaurant and it's a busy night,

00:24:45.200 if it's not a busy night, people aren't coming in, then yeah, you're not going to make much money.

00:24:48.100 You can't do much about that.

00:24:49.660 But if it's a busy night and you're getting tables and you're constantly getting stiffed on tips,

00:24:55.220 that probably just means that you're bad at what you're doing.

00:24:58.680 But it could be a lot better.

00:24:59.980 It doesn't take much, really.

00:25:02.280 Be energetic.

00:25:03.260 Be cheerful.

00:25:04.440 Not that I'm one to speak about being cheerful, but I don't do that for a living.

00:25:08.340 So be energetic.

00:25:09.340 Be cheerful.

00:25:09.840 Be helpful.

00:25:11.620 All that.

00:25:12.160 Just do that.

00:25:13.200 And you can pretty much guarantee 20% tips from most people, if not more.

00:25:18.860 It's one of the reasons I was a deliverer.

00:25:20.040 I delivered pizzas for a long time.

00:25:22.680 A long time.

00:25:23.360 I don't know, maybe a year.

00:25:24.940 And it was probably my favorite of those kinds of jobs.

00:25:28.680 Of all the jobs I had as a teenager, that was by far my favorite job.

00:25:32.660 And I liked the fact that it was based on tips because I knew that, look,

00:25:36.680 if I could just get there on time or even a little bit early,

00:25:40.420 and I'm super friendly for that one-minute exchange, I can really generate those tips.

00:25:46.380 And I kind of like that.

00:25:47.780 All that said, the problem is that everyone now in our economy tries to get a tip out of you.

00:25:54.260 Every coffee shop you go to, every cafe, every eatery,

00:25:59.200 places where the person behind the counter is just ringing you up and handing you your order,

00:26:03.820 they're not waiting on the table, they're not cleaning up after you,

00:26:07.820 they're not doing anything like that.

00:26:08.480 They're just, you tell them what they want, what you want, they punch it in.

00:26:13.140 And then they, and then this is what it is in every coffee shop now.

00:26:15.460 It seems like they flip that little iPad thing around after you put the card in,

00:26:20.320 and then it pops up.

00:26:21.220 Do you want to give a 15% tip, 20% tip, 30% tip?

00:26:25.160 You're asking me for, you're suggesting that I give you a 30% tip for handing me a coffee.

00:26:32.260 Come on, this is what you're doing.

00:26:36.640 This is the whole job.

00:26:38.380 I say, okay, I get a medium, medium roast coffee.

00:26:42.540 Hit it in there, turn around, hold up the cup, bring it around, hand the cup.

00:26:48.540 30% for that?

00:26:51.640 Come on, you better be pretty damn friendly.

00:26:54.920 You better be, not just pretty, you better be the most,

00:26:57.900 the friendliest person I've ever encountered in my life in order for that to warrant 30%.

00:27:03.960 So that's my only problem with the tipping is I think we need to,

00:27:07.680 every day now of life has become like a stay at a high-end hotel.

00:27:13.280 You ever stayed at a really high-end hotel where everybody,

00:27:16.120 everyone's very nice and they're all very helpful.

00:27:18.700 Everybody you encounter wants a tip.

00:27:20.780 And so even if you're lucky enough to go, sometimes I'll travel and I do speaking events

00:27:27.260 and sometimes someone's very generous, they put you up in a really nice hotel.

00:27:30.820 But what it ends up being is it ends up costing you $10,000

00:27:35.380 because you'd have to tip everybody all, you're just handing out cash to everyone.

00:27:40.020 As you walk through the lobby, you're just throwing dollar bills everywhere.

00:27:43.860 Um, and that's what it's like in life now, everywhere you go, everyone expects a tip.

00:27:48.600 It's just, it's gotten

00:27:49.520 a little too much.

00:27:53.840 And that is my cheapskate rant for the day.

00:27:57.520 Okay.

00:27:58.120 Uh, let's go to emails.

00:28:00.000 MattWalshow at gmail.com.

00:28:01.780 MattWalshow at gmail.com.

00:28:03.480 From Christine says,

00:28:04.600 Hey Matt, thanks for your addressing the whole breastfeeding and stigma on your show.

00:28:09.520 Yes, Thursday.

00:28:10.180 And an even bigger thanks for not comparing it to public urination.

00:28:13.180 Like some people sometimes do.

00:28:15.340 One is an unsanitary waste product.

00:28:17.480 One keeps infants alive.

00:28:19.180 I agree that that comparison is, uh, I think unwarranted.

00:28:24.240 Also a little creepy in a number of ways.

00:28:28.560 Your comparison to feet, however, is just a bit off.

00:28:31.000 It's not illegal to show your feet in public.

00:28:33.180 We wear shoes in public places because feet are dirty without.

00:28:36.620 They pick up everything we walk on and keeping them covered in such places as a health measure

00:28:40.140 in addition to preventing someone from suing a place for injuring themselves by stepping

00:28:42.860 on a nail.

00:28:44.060 Breasts aren't being dragged around on the ground. 1.00

00:28:48.000 Uh, okay.

00:28:52.120 I'm going to, there's so many jokes I contemplated making.

00:28:56.260 I'm just going to move on.

00:28:57.080 Go to a beach and you, uh, and, and you show your feet.

00:29:00.900 No problem.

00:29:01.380 Go topless in America and you will have the cops called. 0.84

00:29:04.140 Hang your feet on a window, uh, driving down the highway, having, hang your feet out of

00:29:09.360 a window, driving down the highway and you have a country song.

00:29:12.000 Well, you also have a ticket.

00:29:13.160 Um, if you do that, uh, not to mention you get into an accident with your feet.

00:29:17.300 I see people driving down the highway with their feet hanging out.

00:29:19.320 I was like, do you realize what's going to happen to you?

00:29:21.000 If you have to, if, if, if, if the driver has to stop short, do you realize what's where

00:29:24.980 your leg is going?

00:29:26.820 Most of your body's going through the windshield.

00:29:28.440 Your leg's going out that way.

00:29:29.640 Just so you know, hang your feet. 1.00

00:29:33.040 Hang your breasts out of the window and you're a sex offender as for, well, it really depends 0.99

00:29:37.680 on where you are, I suppose with, with some of this stuff as for covering up to each their 0.99

00:29:41.400 own.

00:29:41.960 Um, someone, someone feels safer covering for others.

00:29:45.040 It's just an extra burden and it's faster and easier not to, do you think Mary covered

00:29:49.980 Jesus up in the heat of the middle East to preserve modesty?

00:29:53.120 Very doubtful.

00:29:54.540 He would have had a heat stroke.

00:29:56.840 Overall, you didn't dig your hole in the subject too deep.

00:29:59.160 I've breastfed five children and you have never been approached or, and have never been

00:30:03.080 approached or told to cover up.

00:30:04.680 I think the stigma is in the social circle people choose to run in.

00:30:07.680 Okay.

00:30:07.860 So I didn't dig my hole in the breastfeeding subject too deep.

00:30:09.860 Let me try again.

00:30:11.440 My only issue with your response, Christine, is that you're talking about the, the, the comfort

00:30:16.740 level of the breastfeeding mother.

00:30:19.500 And that's good because there should be a comfort level.

00:30:22.320 And, and as I said yesterday, breastfeeding should not be stigmatized.

00:30:27.840 I, I, it doesn't seem to me that it really is, but if it is, it shouldn't be a women and 1.00

00:30:34.220 women, uh, shouldn't be prevented from doing it. 1.00

00:30:36.740 There's nothing bad or shameful about it.

00:30:39.300 Obviously it's a healthy, good thing for a woman to do. 1.00

00:30:42.100 So I'm on board with you there.

00:30:43.980 And as I said yesterday, my wife is currently breastfeeding our new baby and has just as

00:30:48.960 she has, just as she did for the three other babies that we've had.

00:30:53.120 But, um, I also think that even if you don't want to call it modesty, it's just maybe a

00:30:59.360 matter of basic politeness to at least take into consideration everybody else.

00:31:04.680 So can, can you meet me halfway?

00:31:06.460 Can we agree on that?

00:31:08.560 You're focusing on, well, it's up to the woman. 1.00

00:31:10.440 What does she want to do? 0.87

00:31:11.500 And right.

00:31:12.140 Okay.

00:31:12.400 But also in general, in life, we should take into account the people around us and try

00:31:19.120 to be considerate to some degree, right?

00:31:21.540 Within reason.

00:31:24.680 Um, and you know, we've all been out in public in situations where a woman just for lack of 0.99

00:31:33.560 a better term sort of whips it out, not a care in the world feeds, does the thing, you know,

00:31:40.640 around everyone, no cover, no attempt at all, even slightly to be discreet.

00:31:46.120 So I think we've all been in scenarios like that.

00:31:49.440 And I think that's kind of absurd.

00:31:52.240 There's no reason to go out of your way to show off.

00:31:56.340 So as long as we can agree that there should be some kind of balance, that there should

00:32:02.200 be some element of discreteness and, and, and taking into account other people.

00:32:08.460 And, uh, and, and so hopefully we can agree on that.

00:32:10.980 And then everything, everything will be, everything will be fine.

00:32:15.120 Okay.

00:32:16.240 From Simon says, hi, Matt.

00:32:17.980 Have you seen a quiet place?

00:32:19.180 I have seen it and it's a great film.

00:32:20.900 And I'll tell you the thing I really liked about, I liked everything about that movie,

00:32:24.160 honestly, but the thing that I, including just the way that they handled suspense and

00:32:28.380 a horror movie that doesn't rely on gore and, uh, it doesn't even rely on jump scares all

00:32:34.640 that much as there's some of that, but, but not as much.

00:32:36.840 It really is just building suspense, psychological suspense, which I appreciate.

00:32:40.440 But I also really appreciate it in that movie, the way that the father character is portrayed

00:32:44.640 as a good heroic father who loves and sacrifices for his family.

00:32:49.800 So I liked that movie a lot from Lauren says, uh, hi, Matt.

00:32:53.660 I listen to your show all the time, but this is my first time emailing.

00:32:56.080 I think you've, what you've said about three-year-olds not knowing what gender means is absolutely 0.99

00:33:00.840 correct.

00:33:01.960 Um, I think that sometimes a kid might say they're a boy or a girl, uh, because they

00:33:08.180 want to be a part of something boys or girls are doing.

00:33:10.500 I have a 12 year old girl and a nine-year-old boy.

00:33:12.460 I have to listen to your show today.

00:33:13.480 I remember an occasion when my son was about three, I was painting my daughter's toenails and

00:33:17.700 I had painted my own right before.

00:33:19.100 My son said he wanted his nails painted too.

00:33:21.320 I explained that we had our nails painted because we were girls and boys and don't wear

00:33:24.480 nail polish.

00:33:25.180 Then I started an activity that the three of us could do together.

00:33:27.800 Now having a girl and a boy, they both played with dolls, trucks, et cetera.

00:33:31.120 My son has never expressed a desire to be a girl, but probably because I made it clear 0.98

00:33:34.220 to him that he is in fact a boy.

00:33:36.560 You are exactly correct, Lauren.

00:33:38.620 And what you just said there is, is so important for people to understand.

00:33:42.240 And this is the point that I've been trying to make that when H a young child says that

00:33:49.100 they say when a boy, for example, says he wants to be a girl, what he's really trying

00:33:54.700 to communicate is that he wants to do the things.

00:33:58.960 He wants to be a part of something that the girls are doing.

00:34:01.960 And very often the thing that he wants to be a part of, fine, let him be a part of it.

00:34:09.800 If he wants, they're, they're all sitting around and coloring, doing arts and crafts.

00:34:13.900 He wants to do that.

00:34:14.900 Fine.

00:34:16.300 He wants to play with dolls.

00:34:17.620 Who cares?

00:34:18.100 Now, I agree with you, uh, with, with our boys, we're not going to paint their toenails

00:34:22.860 or put them in dresses. 0.97

00:34:23.900 I think that's going several steps too far.

00:34:26.620 And, and that will create the confusion because at, on one hand, uh, there's no reason to freak

00:34:33.060 out.

00:34:33.320 If your son picks up a doll, you're not gonna say, put that doll down.

00:34:35.720 Stop right there.

00:34:36.960 Oh, you're not going to do that.

00:34:37.740 Who cares?

00:34:38.120 He's got a doll.

00:34:38.820 Who cares?

00:34:39.800 But because, and that's not going to confuse him, but you, you do want to set these boundaries

00:34:45.960 and, and help him to understand who he is.

00:34:50.500 And so dressing him up like a girl is only going to create confusion.

00:34:53.660 You don't want to do that.

00:34:54.920 So I think you've got the right idea and the right insight into this.

00:34:57.500 And we just can't emphasize enough that as parents, a big part of our job is to help our

00:35:05.040 children understand who they are and what they're supposed to do as people.

00:35:11.620 We don't take their cue.

00:35:13.220 We don't sit back to our three-year-olds and say, okay, you tell me who you are, what you

00:35:18.880 want to do, how your life is going to run.

00:35:21.680 We don't do that.

00:35:23.140 They need us to step in and show them the way until we can fling open the doors and let

00:35:32.200 them fly, let them leave the nest as free birds.

00:35:38.200 This is from Shannon says, hi, Matt, really appreciate your views.

00:35:40.960 I have one question though.

00:35:42.640 I hope you don't take offense to why do you as a Catholic look to the Catholic church to

00:35:46.860 interpret scripture for you?

00:35:48.080 The great thing about the reformation, in my opinion, is that it empowered and encouraged

00:35:51.880 people to draw their own conclusions and not to rely on the interpretation of fallible

00:35:55.320 humans.

00:35:56.020 What is your take on that?

00:35:58.400 Again, don't mean this with hostility.

00:36:00.740 Well, you say you don't mean it with hostility, but Shannon, you, I take great offense to this

00:36:05.560 question.

00:36:05.940 And it hurts my feelings deeply, but I will try to forge ahead.

00:36:11.720 So a few things.

00:36:13.480 First, just my view on scripture.

00:36:16.500 It's true that I do trust the church's interpretation, but I also read the book for myself.

00:36:22.020 And I do, in a sense, draw my own conclusions in that I don't just look to what the church

00:36:27.560 tells me I should get out of the Bible and say, well, okay, that settles it.

00:36:31.000 Don't need to read it.

00:36:32.400 They've, they've, they've spoon fed it to me and I'll take their word for it.

00:36:36.140 No, I pick it up and I read it and I see what I actually do get out of it.

00:36:40.500 And I think, and I turn the passages over in my head.

00:36:43.640 I reflect on them and all of that.

00:36:45.540 I'm a huge proponent of doing that, a huge proponent.

00:36:48.260 And in fact, I will grant the stereotype that many Catholics in my experience don't read

00:36:53.700 their Bibles enough.

00:36:55.000 And generally speaking, Protestants are better versed in scripture than Catholics are.

00:36:58.480 Or that is not always true.

00:37:01.760 And it is, as I said, a stereotype, but most, many stereotypes are there for a reason.

00:37:08.280 And I think this one is, if I'm being totally honest, it's, it's not uncommon for me.

00:37:13.460 Now, if you want to talk about the uninformed, lazy Catholics that don't know the Bible, well, 1.00

00:37:18.620 right, but they don't know anything. 0.94

00:37:20.440 And in Protestant churches, you have the same thing, right?

00:37:22.540 You've got plenty of Christians who are lackadaisical, aren't paying attention. 1.00

00:37:26.160 Don't read the Bible, don't pay attention to anything. 0.71

00:37:28.360 And so I'm not even talking about that.

00:37:29.440 I'm talking really about, it's not uncommon for me to encounter highly educated Catholics

00:37:35.280 who can spit moral theology at you all day long.

00:37:39.740 And they can tell you all about Aquinas and Augustine and the church fathers.

00:37:43.300 And they can speak very philosophically.

00:37:45.520 And they're very informed about all these highfalutin theological concepts.

00:37:49.860 And they can give you theories on the atonement.

00:37:52.340 And they can do all this stuff.

00:37:54.420 But, and they can give you church history.

00:37:57.180 And they can tell you.

00:37:58.300 But some of them, in my experience, they couldn't tell you what happens in Matthew's infancy narrative.

00:38:03.200 Not exactly, anyway.

00:38:05.600 So some of the really basic biblical stuff, they aren't as versed on.

00:38:11.420 And not always the case.

00:38:13.560 But sometimes I have noticed that.

00:38:17.220 And that's a problem.

00:38:19.260 And I do think there should be a greater focus for Catholics in schools and in churches on reading the Bible and understanding what it says.

00:38:30.700 Now, on the other hand, so I have granted that.

00:38:34.040 On the other hand, this idea that the Protestant Reformation was all about people interpreting the Bibles for themselves, I don't see that.

00:38:44.500 I don't think the history of the movement bears that out.

00:38:48.000 I don't claim to be an expert in the history of the Reformation, but I have read about it.

00:38:52.680 And I'm fairly familiar with it.

00:38:56.300 And it seems to me that the guys who were at the forefront of the Reformation, Luther and Calvin, they had their own interpretations of the Bible.

00:39:05.060 In fact, these men were openly critical of certain books of the Bible.

00:39:09.240 Hostile to them, even.

00:39:10.940 Focusing on Luther for a minute, he, as I think most people know, he famously was insulting towards the book of James.

00:39:18.320 He seemed to really hate that book.

00:39:20.860 Called it an epistle of straw.

00:39:22.860 He never explicitly advocated for removing it from the canon.

00:39:25.880 But I think because he knew he couldn't get away with that.

00:39:29.760 But he all but did that.

00:39:33.160 He said it shouldn't be taught in schools.

00:39:35.360 He said that it's wrong on a number of points.

00:39:39.280 That it doesn't have, I forget what his phrase, that it doesn't have the spirit of God in it or words to that effect.

00:39:46.960 So it's always been interesting to me that the Reformation was supposed to be all about getting back to the Bible.

00:39:51.060 But the Reformation was started by a guy who had no problem criticizing the content of the Bible.

00:39:56.740 Something that certainly Protestants today, for the most part, certainly in the mainstream, would never openly do.

00:40:04.080 But in the Reformation days, the people that got this thing kick-started, they did it all the time.

00:40:11.560 They were very open about it.

00:40:12.700 And what's interesting, too, is that that's not something that you would have found then or now in the Catholic Church.

00:40:24.220 You're not going to find, you might take issue with how the Catholic Church interprets books.

00:40:28.640 But the Catholic Church is not going to come out and say, this book is wrong and shouldn't be taught.

00:40:35.140 Luther did say that.

00:40:36.480 Luther and Calvin took the epistles of Paul, especially Romans, and made those the central documents of the whole book.

00:40:54.860 And interpreted the whole book, that is the entire canon of Scripture, through the lens of Paul.

00:41:02.640 Interpreting even the teachings of Jesus through the lens of Paul.

00:41:07.100 So that all the places in the text, where Jesus seems to very explicitly tell us that our ultimate destination will depend to some degree on the things that we do on earth.

00:41:19.060 I mean, Jesus indicates this many, many, many times in the Gospel.

00:41:23.000 All over the place in the Gospel.

00:41:25.560 And this is a subject that he is asked about and speaks on frequently.

00:41:31.480 Sometimes very directly.

00:41:33.140 What can I do to inherit eternal life?

00:41:35.560 Keep the commandments.

00:41:37.480 Now, and I know that you talked to, you might have an answer for that verse.

00:41:41.260 You're going to say, no, no, no, no, he didn't mean it like that.

00:41:44.780 But what you do with all those various verses where Jesus seems to really indicate,

00:41:49.160 not just indicate, but say, that to some degree it's going to depend on the things you do.

00:41:55.440 So what you'll probably do is you'll say, no, no, no, that's not how he meant it.

00:41:59.000 Here's what's meant.

00:41:59.740 And then the next thing you're going to do, and this is my experience, almost every time, out comes the Book of Romans.

00:42:06.700 So it seems like what you're doing is you're reading Jesus through the filter of Paul.

00:42:16.380 Now, in my view, it should be the opposite.

00:42:19.260 We should read Paul through the filter of Jesus.

00:42:22.180 And wherever one teaching seems to need to be subordinated to another, maybe that's not exactly the right term.

00:42:29.440 I'm not saying, I don't mean supplanted or replaced.

00:42:31.620 I don't mean that they contradict, but what I mean is that one of those teachings has to be the foundation for the other.

00:42:42.960 And I think that the teachings of Jesus are the foundation for Paul, not the other way around.

00:42:47.800 So when you've got Paul saying salvation by faith, and you've got Jesus saying, the ones who make it to heaven will be the ones who clothe the naked and fed the hungry, and we're trying to figure out how to make it all fit,

00:43:00.880 we should begin with the assumption that there is some way to interpret Paul that will fit within Christ's framework, rather than beginning with the assumption that there is some way to interpret Christ that will fit within Paul's framework.

00:43:13.540 So that is my, that's my point.

00:43:21.880 And so, and this is an interesting discussion.

00:43:23.960 We could continue it.

00:43:25.780 I'd be happy to, but I just, I want to make the point that if you're in the Protestant tradition, you are following an interpretation of the Bible that was handed down to you by men like Luther, whether you know it or not.

00:43:39.640 So you're not just coming up with it on your own.

00:43:41.780 You know, if you had no idea of any of this, and you were not brought up in any tradition whatsoever, and you were to just pick up the Bible and read it, which, this is the way people pretend they read the Bible, where they, no influence, they're picking it up and reading it.

00:43:58.560 Again, I submit to you that if you were to do that without any influence of any traditions of men, as you put it, there is no way you would arrive on your own at the conclusion that, you know, that it all boils down to Romans and that everything has to be seen through that lens.

00:44:19.120 I just don't think there's any way you get through all those books and everything, including the, you know, the four Gospels where the Son of God is talking, is giving teachings, and then get to Romans and say, okay, this is everything right here.

00:44:31.100 What I'm saying is, what I'm saying is, that is one way to interpret it, but I don't think that's your interpretation.

00:44:39.840 I think that's the interpretation that was given to you.

00:44:41.940 It doesn't mean it's wrong.

00:44:42.780 I think it is wrong, but just because it was given to you by someone else doesn't mean it's wrong, and in fact, I think that, as I said, nobody picks up the Bible and freely interprets it without any influence.

00:44:58.320 No one does that, even if they claim they do, and it's good that no one does that, actually, because I don't think that's the right way of approaching the Bible.

00:45:05.100 I think that we do need some help and guidance in making sense of it, and anyone who has just picked it up and read it from the first page and just read on like it was a novel or something, which it isn't, but anyone who has read it that way, it doesn't take you long before you start encountering things and you say, I'm not sure what this means.

00:45:27.540 I can't figure out how to make sense of it, and so that's where you go somewhere to help you figure out how to make sense of it, don't you?

00:45:36.300 So you have your place that you go.

00:45:37.980 I have my place.

00:45:39.380 We could talk about which place is the right way to go.

00:45:41.920 My only point is you can't pretend that you don't have a place you go for your interpretation because you do, which in and of itself is fine and I think unavoidable.

00:45:53.180 And so much of interpreting Scripture comes down to finding these various, when you have these various teachings, so much of interpretation comes down to figuring out what lens to see it through.

00:46:10.720 In other words, when you've got two teachings that appear to contradict, even though they don't appear to, interpretation so often is, do I view passage B through the lens of A or do I view passage A through the lens of B?

00:46:30.500 And the decision you make there, depending on what the passages are, is going to determine so much of your theology.

00:46:40.600 But how did you decide that original thing?

00:46:43.800 You've got two passages.

00:46:45.800 How do you know which one?

00:46:48.240 Because the Bible itself doesn't contain a glossary or an index explaining in itself how to do this.

00:46:55.440 And especially in the New Testament, the New Testament books rarely refer to each other.

00:47:04.180 Sometimes they do, but rarely.

00:47:06.640 And so you're not going to often find in the book explaining where the book says, okay, here's what it's saying here, but oh, that other book, remember that?

00:47:15.020 It says this.

00:47:15.860 Here's how to read those two things together.

00:47:17.820 The Bible doesn't do that for you.

00:47:19.360 And so you have to decide how to view it.

00:47:25.780 And again, I would suggest that your decision there on how to view it is probably not something you actually came up with yourself.

00:47:36.520 All right.

00:47:37.320 Interesting subject, though.

00:47:38.840 So thanks for that.

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Ep. 357 - The Katie Hill Saga Continues

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