The Matt Walsh Show - October 28, 2019


Ep. 358 - Media Mourns Dead Terrorist


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ISIS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi has been killed. President Trump is booed by Nationals fans. Congresswoman Katie Hill resigns. And Kanye West comes out as pro-life. Plus, Field of Greens and more!

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00:00:00.000 So, everybody is talking about how President Trump was booed by Nationals fans last night.
00:00:06.280 They also shouted, lock him up.
00:00:08.320 And if you haven't seen it yet, here's the clip of that.
00:00:11.220 Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up!
00:00:19.740 Lock him up! Lock him up! Lock him up! 0.57
00:00:23.360 So, listen, some people are upset by that. But my point is, you can't really blame them, can you?
00:00:30.380 I mean, Trump did just kill a scholar, after all. And austere one at that.
00:00:35.980 It's one thing to go around killing scholars, but to kill an austere scholar, of all things, well, you just can't do that.
00:00:43.660 So, it's hard to blame them.
00:00:45.200 We'll talk about Al-Baghdadi's death and especially how the media reacted to it,
00:00:49.440 including the Washington Post's now infamous characterization, as I just alluded to,
00:00:54.060 of the terrorist leader as an austere religious scholar.
00:00:58.360 We've also got to talk about Kanye West, of course, and his new gospel album.
00:01:01.800 Also, him coming out as pro-life, which I think is the more significant revelation over the last week about Kanye West.
00:01:12.580 And Katie Hill resigned. We've been following this story for the last week, so we're going to talk about that as well.
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00:03:10.920 All right, so Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, and make sure we pronounce his name right, out of respect for the dead.
00:03:18.940 And ISIS leader, brutal, savage, sadistic, mass-murdering rapist, was killed this weekend, as you've heard.
00:03:30.260 Blew himself up like a coward as American forces were closing in.
00:03:34.300 The world is a much better place without him.
00:03:37.380 And we can be quite sure, on top of that, that the virgins he was expecting to wake up to after he blew himself to smithereens, well, we can be sure that he probably was disappointed when he awoke.
00:03:51.860 There were no virgins, we'll just say that.
00:03:56.020 This is a great win for the good guys, for the world, politically, for Donald Trump.
00:04:01.020 But that factor, Donald Trump, combined with the fact that Baghdadi was Muslim, seemed to cause real problems for the media.
00:04:11.000 It just, it kind of sent them, they got all discombobulated based on those two factors.
00:04:16.600 You'd think this story is pretty straightforward, pretty simple.
00:04:21.060 Scumbag terrorist dies, we celebrate.
00:04:24.780 That's how it should be.
00:04:27.000 But the media, well, for the media, it's never that simple, especially when it comes to Donald Trump.
00:04:32.660 They can't give Trump credit for anything, ever.
00:04:38.080 And also, they can never put identity politics to the side.
00:04:41.320 Which is why they spent the last 48 hours in, it would seem, almost mourning, they've almost been mourning the death of a man who would lock people in cages and set them on fire.
00:04:53.020 A man who raped more women than Genghis Khan.
00:04:56.680 They have almost been, it would seem, upset that he died.
00:05:03.680 Now, let's go to the most infamous example.
00:05:06.780 I know you've seen this by now, but we've really got to break this thing down, because it is incredible.
00:05:10.740 The Washington Post, Baghdadi dies, and immediately, the Post puts up an obituary with this headline.
00:05:18.540 This was their first headline.
00:05:19.420 It said, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, Islamic State's terrorist-in-chief, dies at 48.
00:05:25.720 Now, this, with the way that's phrased, dies, with the passive phrasing, it makes it seem like he died peacefully in his sleep of a heart attack,
00:05:35.060 or, you know, died of pancreatic cancer or something.
00:05:38.880 It doesn't quite let on to the fact that American forces effectively killed him by forcing him to blow himself up.
00:05:45.980 But other than that, the headline's fine.
00:05:48.740 Terrorist-in-chief, sure, that's a fine description. 0.99
00:05:53.780 But then comes the headline change, and they change it to a headline that will live forever in infamy.
00:05:58.900 Aboukhar al-Baghdadi, austere religious scholar at the helm of Islamic State, dies at 48.
00:06:08.720 Austere religious scholar.
00:06:11.780 A headline that, as many people have been, it kind of makes you wonder how they eulogized other famous murderers.
00:06:21.820 Like, Timothy McVeigh, noted political activist, dies at 33.
00:06:27.960 Or, John Wayne Gacy, boisterous party clown and children's entertainer, dies at 52.
00:06:35.720 Ted Bundy, famous ladies' man, dies at 42.
00:06:40.520 Adolf Hitler, prominent painter and environmentalist, dies at 56.
00:06:46.220 And so on.
00:06:47.680 The really amazing thing about this is that Washington Post, it's the fact that they changed the headline.
00:06:54.800 Okay, so there had to be a real thought process that went into this.
00:07:00.240 There was a discussion.
00:07:01.460 There had to be a discussion that involved numerous people.
00:07:05.380 There had to have been an actual, audible conversation among multiple people at this supposedly respected news organization.
00:07:13.240 And that conversation had to begin with someone saying something like,
00:07:18.680 Hey guys, this headline about the serial raping terrorist is a little harsh.
00:07:23.180 Why don't we try to highlight his positive sides a little bit more?
00:07:27.000 Or the conversation could have started with something more like,
00:07:29.820 Hey guys, this headline might make people think that Donald Trump did something good.
00:07:34.140 How can we make it seem like less of a victory for him?
00:07:39.100 However the conversation started, this is what you ended up with.
00:07:45.540 And the other amazing thing is that apparently, you would assume,
00:07:54.660 they didn't think they would get any backlash for it.
00:07:57.220 They were blindsided by the backlash, which is why they ended up changing the headline a second time.
00:08:04.320 It took them three tries to get to a headline about a very simple story.
00:08:10.140 One of the worst people in the world is dead.
00:08:14.540 Real simple.
00:08:16.180 It took them three tries to get to the right headline.
00:08:18.820 But the fact that, again, multiple people looked at the headline,
00:08:26.080 nodded their heads, and said, Yep, perfect.
00:08:28.580 Nobody will have any issue with this.
00:08:30.220 This is great.
00:08:31.980 Which just goes to show why the media embarrasses itself so often and why it is so hated.
00:08:38.920 Because these people who work in the media really don't understand how normal human beings work.
00:08:46.180 And I think that's a problem.
00:08:47.500 If you're in the media and your job is to communicate,
00:08:51.360 your job is to communicate with normal people and tell them what's going on in the world.
00:08:56.580 So if you don't understand how a normal brain works,
00:09:01.660 that's going to be a very difficult thing to do.
00:09:05.380 They thought that normal humans would prefer for a terrorist leader to be characterized as a religious scholar.
00:09:14.380 And that is incredible.
00:09:15.440 But, and I haven't seen anyone really point, anyone else really point this out.
00:09:20.980 The other funny thing here, the irony,
00:09:24.420 is that in an attempt to be woke,
00:09:30.140 in an attempt to be tolerant,
00:09:33.880 due to their suffocating fear of being Islamophobic,
00:09:37.940 they only ended up insulting Islam as well.
00:09:41.480 Because think about it,
00:09:42.380 austere in this context means strict or rigid or uncompromising.
00:09:49.020 So someone in a religious context,
00:09:51.360 if you say that someone is austere,
00:09:53.840 what you're saying is that they very strictly adhere to the fundamentals of their religion.
00:09:59.720 So if you call Baghdadi an austere scholar of Islam,
00:10:07.020 what you're saying obviously is that he is someone who adheres very closely to
00:10:13.440 and understands very well the fundamentals of the religion.
00:10:19.700 That's what it means to be austere and scholarly in this context.
00:10:23.920 So what is the post implying?
00:10:25.300 Are they implying that a strict observance of Islam would lead to ISIS?
00:10:33.160 Now, I know they weren't trying to imply that, but they did.
00:10:36.540 That is what they implied.
00:10:38.580 They forgot that, as in the media, they forgot what they normally do.
00:10:42.400 They forgot what their normal line is.
00:10:45.300 And this is what happens when you are so,
00:10:48.600 you know, when you're so committed to always going to certain talking points
00:10:54.180 and not necessarily communicating the truth,
00:10:56.820 sometimes you get mixed up and you forget what your talking point is supposed to be
00:10:59.620 because it can be hard to remember, right, in fairness to them.
00:11:03.400 So they forgot that their talking point is usually
00:11:06.080 that guys like Baghdadi, guys in ISIS,
00:11:09.960 they don't understand their own religion.
00:11:11.680 They don't know anything about Islam.
00:11:14.180 They aren't even really Muslim at all. 1.00
00:11:18.020 That's usually their line in the media.
00:11:20.960 They forgot about that, and this time they went with,
00:11:23.360 oh no, he's a scholar of Islam.
00:11:29.260 This is what happens when you try to be woke.
00:11:33.500 This is what happens.
00:11:34.220 Now, it wasn't just the Washington Post embarrassing itself.
00:11:37.260 A lot of media folks were upset by,
00:11:41.260 well, specifically, not just what happened,
00:11:45.020 but also the way that Trump described the death of Baghdadi
00:11:49.140 in his address to the nation was very scandalizing
00:11:51.920 for some of the people in Washington
00:11:56.000 with very weak stomachs who can't deal with it.
00:11:58.060 So here's a clip of that address from the president.
00:12:00.720 Last night, the United States brought the world's number one terrorist leader
00:12:06.200 to justice, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, is dead.
00:12:13.260 He died after running into a dead-end tunnel,
00:12:16.760 whimpering and crying and screaming all the way.
00:12:19.320 Baghdadi's demise demonstrates America's relentless pursuit of terrorist leaders
00:12:26.480 and our commitment to the enduring and total defeat of ISIS
00:12:32.920 and other terrorist organizations.
00:12:36.000 Our reach is very long.
00:12:39.880 He will never again harm another innocent man, woman, or child.
00:12:46.600 He died like a dog.
00:12:49.060 He died like a coward.
00:12:51.100 The world is now a much safer place.
00:12:55.940 God bless America.
00:12:58.220 Thank you.
00:12:58.680 Wow, well, that is really upsetting, isn't it?
00:13:03.360 How could President Trump say such mean things about that poor man?
00:13:08.060 Dog, coward, have some respect, right?
00:13:10.580 This is outrageous.
00:13:11.980 Nobody deserves to be spoken of this way.
00:13:14.860 Oh, wait a second.
00:13:15.640 Hold on.
00:13:16.780 Oh, no, no, no, right, right.
00:13:18.160 No, yeah, yeah.
00:13:19.080 Oh, he definitely does deserve to be spoken of this way.
00:13:21.760 Some people definitely do deserve to be spoken of like that.
00:13:24.820 Some people are murderous scumbags who bring nothing but death and misery
00:13:29.000 and suffering and oppression to the world.
00:13:31.180 And when they die, the appropriate and right thing is to celebrate and laugh
00:13:36.020 because they are dead.
00:13:37.800 That is the appropriate thing to do sometimes when people die.
00:13:41.240 The idea that we should respect everyone who dies, of course, is crazy.
00:13:45.340 If they're not respectable when they live,
00:13:48.000 there's no reason why we have to start respecting them now.
00:13:49.860 And there's no reason why we have to pretend that there's anything
00:13:52.700 solemn about their death when there isn't.
00:13:57.340 So what Trump says here is not only acceptable,
00:14:00.000 but actually the only acceptable way to talk about a piece of garbage
00:14:04.460 when they are finally thrown out as they deserve to be.
00:14:09.580 Yet the media had its feelings hurt again.
00:14:11.660 Not just the media, but the D.C. elites as well.
00:14:17.340 And those were, by the way, by the way,
00:14:19.420 those were the same people booing Trump at the Nationals game.
00:14:22.400 So it makes a lot of sense.
00:14:23.460 The Nationals, their fans are 90% D.C. bureaucrats and lobbyists and lawyers.
00:14:30.040 So if you're getting booed by them, that's, I'd be, I would be very upset.
00:14:36.060 If you go out onto the field at a Nationals game
00:14:38.980 and you don't get booed by these people, that's a bad sign.
00:14:42.880 So the fact that Trump was booed, I think, is a great sign for him
00:14:46.940 and a great honor.
00:14:48.140 Now, here's an example of someone who was upset.
00:14:50.880 Dana Shell Smith, a bureaucrat and Georgetown fellow
00:14:54.840 who lists her pronouns in her Twitter bio, just to give you an idea.
00:14:58.200 This is what she said about what Trump said.
00:15:03.700 She said,
00:15:04.280 Also, it's how America rolls, with honor.
00:15:26.960 We don't delight in death like the terrorists do.
00:15:29.760 This description is horrifying.
00:15:32.380 Should go without saying, but to be perfectly clear,
00:15:34.800 I'm remarking on the presser, not on the actual operation.
00:15:38.100 The killing of Baghdadi was unquestionably good and necessary. 0.99
00:15:40.800 So she says she's glad the terrorist was killed,
00:15:43.960 but the way that it was described made her tummy hurt,
00:15:47.600 and she's really worried and concerned about that.
00:15:50.160 She's not the only one concerned.
00:15:51.380 Michael Morell, the former deputy director of the CIA,
00:15:56.140 went on Face the Nation to talk about how bothered and concerned he is
00:16:02.820 with the rhetoric surrounding the death of this scumbag terrorist.
00:16:07.280 Listen to this.
00:16:07.720 So I'll let Sandy answer the operational military question.
00:16:13.540 But to me, this is a great day.
00:16:16.000 We should be really thankful that Baghdadi is gone, 1.00
00:16:19.220 and clearly the intelligence community and the U.S. military did an amazing job,
00:16:23.520 and the president made exactly the right decision.
00:16:25.540 And the president thanked Gina Haspel, the CIA director.
00:16:27.920 And I think we'll learn more in the days ahead about what the intelligence was
00:16:31.120 and how we got it, and we'll thank even more people.
00:16:34.060 It bothered me a little bit some of what the president did in providing detail
00:16:40.540 about taking back to the United States pieces of Baghdadi's body.
00:16:45.800 It bothered me a little bit hearing the president talk about some of that Syrian oil being ours,
00:16:52.120 because that's what inspires some extremists.
00:16:57.140 You know, the oil comments, Margaret, really validate,
00:17:02.600 at least it sounds to people like it validates,
00:17:05.080 40 to 50 years of conspiracy theories about what American foreign policy is all about, right?
00:17:09.060 And it's not.
00:17:10.520 So a great, great day, but I think the president could have handled
00:17:13.740 the press conference a little bit better.
00:17:17.240 Very bothered.
00:17:18.820 Very, very bothered.
00:17:20.140 I'm so bothered by this.
00:17:22.240 Poor guy.
00:17:22.700 Of course, this idea from the woman that I just read, or this guy,
00:17:30.280 this idea that we're going to upset ISIS even more because we say mean things about their dead leader,
00:17:37.320 she said it's going to endanger personnel in the region.
00:17:39.900 Right, because ISIS, they were big fans of Americans prior to this.
00:17:45.080 They were totally on board with us, but now that we've said mean things about their dead leader,
00:17:49.620 now they're going to be, you know, a little bit testy probably with American personnel.
00:17:53.780 No, of course, ISIS, they already killed Americans.
00:17:57.540 You're not going to change nothing.
00:17:58.940 What do they think is going to change now?
00:18:04.380 They've swore that, you know, they have declared war on the West already,
00:18:10.720 and then we killed their leader.
00:18:14.840 Thank God.
00:18:16.560 So I think those two factors already are, that's pretty much all they need.
00:18:23.220 I don't see how rhetoric is going to add to anything.
00:18:26.420 Are they implying that there are ISIS militants who, you know, weren't already really sold on bringing down the West
00:18:36.740 and declaring jihad, but now that they've heard President Trump's unseemly rhetoric,
00:18:42.020 they're saying, you know what, actually, yeah, death to the West.
00:18:46.520 I tend to doubt it.
00:18:48.900 All right, let's go to a different story here, important update on a story that we've been talking about.
00:18:53.880 Katie Hill, the Congresswoman who had a nasty habit of sleeping with her subordinates, 0.72
00:18:58.680 is resigning from Congress.
00:19:01.520 And this is pretty incredible, actually, because on Monday, last Monday, we talked about this story.
00:19:08.480 And at the time, the story was, part of the story anyway, was that nobody was talking about the story,
00:19:14.040 and the media was showing no interest.
00:19:16.520 And it looked like she was going to get away with these blatant ethical violations. 1.00
00:19:21.720 It looked like she would get away with it because the media wasn't paying attention. 0.99
00:19:25.840 They had just decided they were going to ignore it.
00:19:29.020 Which is one of the reasons why it took Katie Hill several days before she even came out and acknowledged 0.99
00:19:34.240 this story, when it was first published by Red State, who did great journalism on this, by the way.
00:19:42.220 It was several days.
00:19:43.160 She was very lackadaisical in her response because she didn't need to get on top of it.
00:19:48.300 The way that, I would argue, a male politician in her situation would have to.
00:19:54.020 But we, much as we did with the James Younger case last week, we pressed this.
00:20:00.180 We spoke out about it.
00:20:01.700 We forced the media to take note.
00:20:03.720 And now she's leaving.
00:20:06.580 And I know we talked about this on Friday, but it's worth reiterating that if there is
00:20:14.220 an important story that's going on that the media is trying to bury, one of the great things
00:20:20.040 about the internet, and there are a lot of terrible things about the internet, but one
00:20:24.020 of the great things is that we can use it to force the media to take note of it.
00:20:28.500 We don't have to just sit back and complain about, oh, why isn't anyone talking about this
00:20:32.180 story?
00:20:32.740 If it's an important story we think people should pay attention to, we can bypass the
00:20:37.280 media.
00:20:38.280 So it's not even really, I guess I should stipulate, it's not even so much forcing the media to
00:20:44.440 take note.
00:20:44.840 It's more bypassing them and saying, forget about you.
00:20:48.980 We don't need you.
00:20:50.180 We're going to tell everybody about this.
00:20:52.320 And then when everyone's talking about it anyway, now the media has to swing around and
00:20:56.960 say something about it because it's way too conspicuous that they're ignoring it.
00:21:01.120 So we can do that now.
00:21:03.560 And we did it twice last week with two different stories.
00:21:06.180 And this is something we should be doing a lot more often.
00:21:10.180 So now she's leaving Congress. 0.57
00:21:12.200 She's resigning, but she's not leaving apologetically.
00:21:15.340 She is because she's the victim here.
00:21:17.920 And she wants us to know that she is the victim.
00:21:19.900 Let me read for you a little bit of her statement that she published about leaving.
00:21:28.920 Let me see if I can pull this up here.
00:21:30.080 It says, it is with a broken heart today that I announced my resignation from Congress.
00:21:37.320 This is the hardest thing I've ever had to do, but I believe it is the best thing for
00:21:40.460 my constituents, my community, and our country.
00:21:42.920 This is what needs to happen so that the good people who supported me will no longer be subjected
00:21:46.700 to the pain inflicted by my abusive husband and the brutality of hateful political operatives
00:21:52.140 who seem to happily provide a platform to a monster who is driving a smear campaign built
00:21:56.720 around cyber exploitation.
00:21:59.000 Having private photos of, I just love how already, you know, it sounds like she's gearing
00:22:06.740 up for some kind of apology where she says, oh, they're no longer to be subjective to the
00:22:10.620 pain inflicted by.
00:22:12.080 And then you think maybe it'd be my poor choices, but it's by my husband.
00:22:20.160 Having private photos of personal moments weaponized against me has been an appalling
00:22:24.540 invasion of my privacy.
00:22:25.940 It's also illegal, and we are currently pursuing all of our available legal options.
00:22:29.480 However, I know that as long as I am in Congress, we'll live fearful of what might
00:22:33.380 come next and how much it will hurt.
00:22:35.640 That's a feeling I know all too well.
00:22:37.380 It's the feeling I decided to leave when I, uh, I decided to leave when I left my marriage
00:22:42.880 and one I will not tolerate being forced upon others.
00:22:46.500 I can no longer allow my community, family, friends, staff, supporters, and especially the
00:22:50.740 children who look up to me as a role model to suffer this unprecedented brand of cruelty.
00:22:57.300 Think of the children.
00:22:59.780 Think of the children who are upset by the fact that my unethical actions have been exposed.
00:23:03.340 Um, oh, now we're getting to an apology, it looks like.
00:23:08.680 For the mistakes made along the way and the people who have been hurt, I am so sorry, and
00:23:12.540 I am learning.
00:23:13.420 I'm not a perfect person and never pretended to be.
00:23:15.380 It's the one thing that made my race so special.
00:23:18.280 I hope it, uh, showed others that they do belong, that their voice does matter, and that
00:23:22.420 they do have a place in this country.
00:23:24.200 That is something I believe with all my heart.
00:23:26.440 I hope it showed the other polyamorous perverts who enjoy having sex with their tax-funded
00:23:33.560 subordinates that there is a place for them in Congress.
00:23:36.940 Well, something tells me, Katie, that, um, that there, that I think those, there are plenty
00:23:42.160 of, of degenerates in Congress already.
00:23:43.820 So you, I don't, I don't think you needed to blaze the way for them.
00:23:46.500 They, they were already good.
00:23:47.820 So you're, you're really just falling in line with so many others.
00:23:50.840 You're just like them.
00:23:51.620 Um, those of you who know me personally know that I'm a fighter and it's thanks to countless
00:23:58.600 other fighters who supported me that we were able to stand up for the ideas of blah, blah,
00:24:01.820 blah, blah, blah, blah.
00:24:02.620 I can't even read any more of that.
00:24:03.560 It's just, I wanted you to get a, get, just get a, hear that because it's such a bunch of
00:24:12.800 self-pitying nonsense.
00:24:14.720 She was running around having sex parties with, with the subordinates who are paid with tax money. 1.00
00:24:20.780 Her behavior is wildly unethical, completely unacceptable.
00:24:25.140 And, and she is by no means a victim.
00:24:28.120 Now I said last week that, you know, the whole revenge porn thing and releasing private photos,
00:24:34.100 I'm not on board with that.
00:24:35.660 I, I think it's wrong.
00:24:37.740 And, uh, and whoever did it probably did break the law and they should be prosecuted for it.
00:24:41.320 So I'm, I'm, I'm in agreement there, but as far as she's good, so we can talk about that.
00:24:46.780 But as far as she's concerned, all she should be doing is apologizing.
00:24:51.380 She can leave all of the self-righteous, I'm a fighter and I'll get through this.
00:24:55.540 What are you fighting exactly, Katie?
00:24:57.280 You're fighting again, because you were having sex with your subordinates who are being paid 0.94
00:25:02.600 with tax money, which is at a minimum against the rules in Congress, probably also illegal.
00:25:08.540 And, and, and that's why this happened.
00:25:16.080 Uh, and of course there are, there are, you know, we're hearing from plenty of leftists
00:25:21.040 who feel sorry for her and are telling us that she's a victim and how horrible it is for her.
00:25:25.680 Uh, well, I say now for the 50th time that if she was a man, you know, uh, the, nobody would
00:25:34.000 feel sorry for her, nobody.
00:25:35.920 And she also would not be able to get away with a, a resignation statement like that.
00:25:42.940 There, there were, back during the heyday of the Me Too movement, when, when men were 0.73
00:25:48.400 being, uh, kicked to the curb left and right, there were some guys who, who, when they, when
00:25:55.660 they resigned from whatever position issued statements sort of like that, where they made
00:26:00.620 themselves out to be the victims and they were ridiculed for it across the media.
00:26:07.620 And for good reason, most of the time, unless they really were innocent.
00:26:11.580 Um, yet we're not seeing the same ridicule here.
00:26:14.480 We're seeing a lot of sort of nodding heads and oh, poor Katie, poor Katie.
00:26:18.400 Um, okay.
00:26:21.200 Uh, now before we get to emails, let's talk briefly about Kanye West.
00:26:28.260 First of all, before we get to the album, um, this I think is the biggest headline.
00:26:33.900 Here's Kanye on something called big boy TV.
00:26:36.360 I don't even know what that is, but, uh, here he is being interviewed about the album, but
00:26:40.940 he starts getting into politics a little bit and he starts really laying down some facts.
00:26:44.560 And I think this is great.
00:26:45.540 Listen to this.
00:26:46.780 Bro.
00:26:48.400 We brainwashed out here, bro.
00:26:51.460 Come on, man.
00:26:52.240 This is a free man talking.
00:26:56.860 Democrats had us voting Democrats with food stamps for years, bro.
00:27:01.160 What is you talking about?
00:27:02.300 Guns in the eighties, taking the fathers at the home, plan B, lowering our votes, making 0.97
00:27:08.940 us abort our children. 0.89
00:27:10.280 Gosh, you're not killed.
00:27:11.760 I think it's really hard to overstate the significance of someone like Kanye West saying what he just
00:27:17.740 said.
00:27:18.000 Now, those of us in the pro-life movement, we've been saying this for years.
00:27:22.600 The Democrats are pushing abortion onto minority populations.
00:27:25.660 And as a result, minority children are being exterminated by the millions.
00:27:30.020 This is an inarguable fact.
00:27:32.680 Without abortion, it is also an inarguable fact that the black population in terms of a
00:27:37.640 percentage of the overall population would be much, much higher than it is today.
00:27:42.400 Significantly higher.
00:27:43.140 We can't say exactly how much higher with any precision, but considering that in some
00:27:49.560 cities, black children are more likely to be aborted than born, it's not hard to see 1.00
00:27:54.600 how the math would generally work out if you didn't have abortion.
00:27:58.480 But the problem the pro-life movement has had is how do we get this message to the people
00:28:04.740 who need to hear it?
00:28:06.040 The cities are all run by Democrats.
00:28:08.220 They control the messaging.
00:28:09.360 The media is run by Democrats, Hollywood, the entertainment industry, the music industry,
00:28:13.420 all of it, far left, all of it Democrat.
00:28:15.660 They're all minions of the abortion industry. 0.98
00:28:17.620 They're all on the same page with this.
00:28:19.660 So we need people inside these structures to open their eyes to the truth and start speaking
00:28:25.880 it so that they can reach the populations that we have trouble reaching.
00:28:30.180 That's the significance of what Kanye just did there.
00:28:33.380 And to an extent, the significance of what he's been doing for a year now.
00:28:39.360 This, to me, I know some people were, you know, made a big deal about it when he came
00:28:43.220 out in support of Donald Trump, which was great that he was speaking his mind on that.
00:28:48.320 But to get away from, rather than just talking politics, to get into these, get into the
00:28:57.000 trenches, basically, on these cultural issues and speak out specifically about something
00:29:02.940 like this.
00:29:03.460 Now, that is enormously significant.
00:29:07.100 And I would love to see Kanye West perform at the March for Life.
00:29:10.740 I put that suggestion out there on Twitter.
00:29:13.740 That's a serious suggestion.
00:29:15.280 Who knows?
00:29:15.680 And he's got music that he could perform now at the March for Life, namely the music that
00:29:20.960 came out last week, Jesus is King is the album.
00:29:23.780 And, you know, everyone's been talking about it.
00:29:25.540 It's a big sensation, especially among Christians.
00:29:27.840 Now, it's not very often that Christians, conservative Christians anyway, will be big fans of a rap
00:29:38.100 album, sort of a rap album, rap slash gospel album.
00:29:40.140 It's just been, looking on Facebook and on Twitter and stuff, there have been people raving
00:29:46.760 about a Kanye West album who I never thought in a million years I would see raving about
00:29:52.700 a Kanye West album.
00:29:53.800 And I think that's great.
00:29:55.180 Not a complaint at all or a criticism.
00:29:56.960 I think it's awesome.
00:29:59.740 So I think, as for the album itself, I've listened to it maybe three times now.
00:30:03.260 Not hard to do because the album is like 27 minutes long.
00:30:05.760 And that is one complaint I have about it.
00:30:10.980 Many of the songs are way too short and have sort of an unfinished feel to them.
00:30:15.100 Like the song Jesus is Lord at the end of the album.
00:30:17.760 It starts, and for the first 45 seconds, it sounds like it's building to being this great
00:30:22.900 gospel track as the music builds and builds and builds.
00:30:26.320 And then it just stops at 49 seconds, and that's it.
00:30:29.120 And it really feels like that was the beginning of a song.
00:30:33.280 And then Kanye forgot to do the rest of the song, so we just got the intro, and that was it.
00:30:39.860 But there are also a couple of really good songs, songs that feel complete.
00:30:43.680 The one with Kenny G, I forget the name of it, but that's probably my favorite.
00:30:48.040 It reminds me of the old Kanye a little bit.
00:30:50.580 Has shades of College Dropout to it.
00:30:53.160 That same sort of vibe, except with Jesus in it.
00:30:57.980 In fact, speaking of College Dropout, Kanye's first album, and I think still to this day his
00:31:02.460 best album, and one of the best albums of the century, I think, in any genre.
00:31:08.280 But on that album, he had the song Jesus Walks, which is one of my favorite songs.
00:31:14.520 And so maybe that was my issue with this one a little bit, is that when I heard that Kanye
00:31:19.480 was making a Jesus album, I thought it would be a whole album of Jesus Walks type songs.
00:31:26.240 And, but none of the songs on this album quite reach that level.
00:31:32.360 And many of them don't even feel like fully complete songs.
00:31:35.740 So that might be affecting my ability to assess it fairly, given my expectations.
00:31:40.960 So here's what I'll say.
00:31:43.440 As for the message of the album, I give that a 10 out of 10.
00:31:47.580 I think it's great.
00:31:48.100 And on the message, you know, the other thing that surprised me with these songs is this
00:32:00.760 wasn't just superfluous.
00:32:05.120 It wasn't shallow kind of Christian music talking points, which is what you get from a lot of
00:32:14.340 Christian music, which is why I don't like contemporary Christian music.
00:32:18.720 It's very, very surface level.
00:32:21.880 Platitudes, basically what it is.
00:32:24.680 But that's not, he gets into some, he gets in depth and talks.
00:32:30.780 I mean, he gets into some, what I would call serious theology in a way.
00:32:35.860 And also talks about the culture.
00:32:38.660 Um, resisting sin, you know, obedience to Christ, uh, repentance.
00:32:46.440 I mean, he talks about this on this album.
00:32:47.940 It's like, and that's, and that's, again, most contemporary Christian music, they're not
00:32:53.220 getting anywhere near those subjects.
00:32:55.380 So I was very impressed with that, which is why message wise, 10 out of 10.
00:33:01.780 As for the music, I give it a solid six and a half to seven out of 10.
00:33:05.860 It could be a nine out of 10.
00:33:07.940 If he just goes, I hope he goes back around and finishes the album sometime.
00:33:11.720 Maybe he does a remastered, you know, deluxe, whatever edition of it.
00:33:15.780 And, uh, and, and finishes out these songs.
00:33:18.360 I think it has the potential to me, it comes off like a rough draft of a, of a Christian sort 0.99
00:33:23.740 of gospel rap album.
00:33:25.580 Uh, if he finishes it, which maybe he will, then I think it could go from music wise,
00:33:31.580 pretty good to great.
00:33:33.420 Okay, let's go to emails, mattwalshowatgmail.com, mattwalshowatgmail.com.
00:33:40.160 This is from Abigail says, greetings, future overlord.
00:33:43.500 I'm going to disagree with you on something.
00:33:45.220 So please forgive me and don't do me and my entire family to a painful death.
00:33:49.100 I don't know why you'd even bother saying that.
00:33:51.040 If you're disagreeing with me, you know what the penalty is.
00:33:53.780 You have accepted that.
00:33:56.000 And, uh, it's out of my hands.
00:33:57.240 I work at an ice cream shop where I swing the iPad around, which gives an option for
00:34:01.760 a tip.
00:34:02.380 I'm a manager and most of the time I'm by myself and do everything by myself.
00:34:06.740 Take their order, make the ice cream, go outside, clean up after children, adults or
00:34:10.120 slobs. 0.99
00:34:11.000 Uh, my, my sister works at a coffee shop where they take coffee very seriously and she puts 1.00
00:34:15.720 a lot of work into that as well.
00:34:16.740 My point being just because people don't physically wait on tables doesn't mean they don't put a
00:34:21.200 lot of work into their service.
00:34:22.480 Again, please don't execute me and my family.
00:34:25.080 Um, first of all, the way that you're groveling to me like that is actually exactly what I would
00:34:33.020 expect in my dictatorship.
00:34:34.080 So I do appreciate that.
00:34:35.280 As far as the thing about tips, listen, it's, I'm not, yes, uh, I'm sure that what you do
00:34:41.860 in your job, you do work hard, but the tips, it's not just about rewarding people who work
00:34:46.600 hard because if tips are about rewarding people who work hard in their jobs, then we would
00:34:51.180 tip everybody, right?
00:34:53.020 But we don't, I mean, there, there are people who do jobs that you, you, where you'd think
00:34:57.600 you would tip them considering how hard they work, considering that what they're doing is
00:35:02.820 important for you, but you can't do it yourself.
00:35:05.980 Uh, considering the service they provide, you'd think you'd tip them.
00:35:08.560 Like for example, your plumber, nobody tips your plumber, but if you, if we're going to
00:35:12.100 tip people who work hard, they provide a service, we don't tip plumbers though.
00:35:15.100 Um, it's crazy to me that we tip cab drivers, Uber drivers, um, even the guy who runs, who
00:35:24.400 runs the, you know, the complimentary hotel shuttle from the airport to the hotel and
00:35:30.400 back, but we don't tip the captain who pilots the plane 30,000 feet in the air and keeps
00:35:36.480 you alive.
00:35:37.000 He's standing there when you all, when you, when everyone's shuffling out after the plane
00:35:42.420 lands, he's standing there saying goodbye to everyone.
00:35:44.200 I've never seen anyone flip, uh, slip that guy a five.
00:35:49.300 I think honestly, we should tip pilots.
00:35:52.820 They've really earned it, but we don't.
00:35:56.060 So it's not really a measure of how hard you work.
00:35:59.900 Some of it is just a social convention where I can't really figure out why we do tip certain
00:36:04.540 people and not others.
00:36:06.480 Um, but I guess my point is, you know, we know that we tip waiters, we tip delivery drivers,
00:36:16.040 cab drivers.
00:36:16.840 Okay.
00:36:18.260 If you're at a hotel, if it's a fancy hotel, you tip everybody.
00:36:21.420 So those are the conventions.
00:36:23.720 I think that's kind of enough.
00:36:25.980 We don't really need to add to it.
00:36:27.660 I think we do enough tipping.
00:36:29.280 And that's my point.
00:36:30.320 If we are going to start adding and tipping more people, then in my opinion, we're not
00:36:37.820 going to go to people who work at coffee shops or ice cream parlors, which is no offense
00:36:41.540 to you any more than we're going to start tipping podcast hosts.
00:36:45.820 But if we're going to do that, then why wouldn't we start tipping electricians, plumbers, car
00:36:52.620 mechanics?
00:36:53.160 Thanks.
00:36:55.600 Okay.
00:36:56.440 Um, but let's, as I said, let's just, let's just stop.
00:36:59.020 We, uh, we, we do enough of the tipping.
00:37:00.640 We all spend enough money as it is.
00:37:02.400 And, uh, that's it.
00:37:04.380 This is from Matthew says, dear Matt, my name is Matt and I live in Austin, Texas.
00:37:07.740 I'm a Greek Orthodox Christian, but not the best example.
00:37:10.060 I'm a huge fan of your show.
00:37:11.200 It's a blessing to have someone like you in conservative media or any media who is not
00:37:14.300 only brilliant and funny, but also willing to poke fun and be a bit self-deprecating.
00:37:18.600 That's one reason I get nauseated listening to Hannity and those like him, as it seems
00:37:22.900 their primary concern is with letting their listeners know that they're, that they predicted
00:37:27.520 and said, fill in the blank all along.
00:37:30.660 Well, in fairness, if I did predict something, then it happens.
00:37:34.240 I definitely let you know about it and I will let you know.
00:37:37.020 So that's one of the, it's one of the joys of doing a job like this.
00:37:41.840 Um, I have two questions.
00:37:43.420 One, I'm a huge sports fan, especially college football.
00:37:45.600 But as long as I look through Twitter and Facebook and even the news, part of me wonders
00:37:49.320 if perhaps I shouldn't focus on sports so much and maybe try to focus on the current
00:37:53.020 state of affairs.
00:37:54.040 I completely disagree with the quote, religion is the opiate of the masses, but part of me
00:37:57.760 has started to wonder if sports has become the opiate along with TV shows, et cetera.
00:38:01.460 It seems the only secular items that have been remotely thought provoking is the Dave Chappelle
00:38:04.760 and Bill Burr specials.
00:38:06.120 Even though I don't agree with them on lots of things, I have tremendous respect for anyone
00:38:09.140 who's willing to speak out, um, on the things we're seeing.
00:38:12.660 And then number two, will you come to the University of Texas at Austin and give a talk?
00:38:16.160 I can provide security as I plan to start working out tomorrow.
00:38:20.260 Well, on the second one, yes, I would be happy to come.
00:38:23.680 On the first question, uh, I think, yeah, we, we, we can tend to over entertain ourselves.
00:38:34.580 And I think generally in our culture, we are sort of entertaining ourselves to death, but
00:38:40.580 in moderation, I don't see any problem with it.
00:38:44.300 And, uh, it does, it also kind of annoys me.
00:38:47.520 So when, when people are way too focused on, on these kinds of things and sports and entertainment,
00:38:52.940 that becomes their entire life, unless it's what you do for a job outside of that, it becomes
00:38:57.760 your entire life.
00:38:58.640 I think that's a problem, but on the other side of it, it also annoys me how, you know,
00:39:06.320 on Sunday you're watching football and this happens to me football Sunday comes.
00:39:11.640 I'm watching the games.
00:39:12.540 I'll keep a track of it.
00:39:14.000 Maybe I'll post a few things to Twitter, give them my thoughts on what's happening.
00:39:17.880 And without fail, there are always going to be people who respond, well, all these things
00:39:22.340 are happening in the world.
00:39:23.340 And, you know, you got ISIS and Syria and everything, and you're talking about this.
00:39:28.160 Well, yes, those other things are important, but I don't have to spend 100% of my time thinking
00:39:34.580 about and talking about all of the important things in the world.
00:39:37.620 Nobody does.
00:39:38.360 That's not, that's no way to live.
00:39:40.720 It would be a strange way for a human being to live.
00:39:42.920 And I don't think any human is capable of living like that.
00:39:46.760 So there are going to be moments when you're focused on things that aren't as important.
00:39:50.960 And I think that that's one of the joys of sports.
00:39:54.820 That's why I like going to, you know, watch a football game or something, or you go to any
00:40:00.140 stadium to watch any sport.
00:40:02.040 I think one of the joys of it is that you're all there.
00:40:05.420 You're focused on the game.
00:40:07.740 It's not very important, but it's a break from all the madness that's going on outside.
00:40:13.280 So for those three or four hours, you're going to really care about this game, which doesn't
00:40:19.520 matter.
00:40:20.360 But that's the part of the attraction of it.
00:40:23.000 And there's nothing wrong with that.
00:40:24.940 I think we need that.
00:40:26.720 We need those breaks.
00:40:28.080 And we need to be able to focus on things that aren't important.
00:40:32.940 So there's a balance there.
00:40:35.560 And there's also a balance in, I think, you have very uninteresting and bland and boring
00:40:44.180 people who all they care about is pop culture and watching TV.
00:40:51.620 And that's all they can talk about.
00:40:52.940 And these are people without personalities, barely even human anymore, because their mind
00:41:00.440 has been replaced by a glowing screen.
00:41:03.820 So you've got that.
00:41:05.080 But then on the other end of the spectrum, I think you have people who are incapable of
00:41:11.060 caring about or talking about entertainment, sports, that sort of thing.
00:41:16.480 And I think those people also are very bland and uninteresting and have given up their personality.
00:41:23.500 So I think as human beings, it's sort of a balance.
00:41:30.420 So there was that.
00:41:31.540 OK, let's see.
00:41:32.420 One last.
00:41:34.600 Well, we'll save this one for tomorrow, actually.
00:41:36.940 Matt Walshow at gmail.com is the email address again for any emails you want to spend.
00:41:41.540 We'll leave it there, though.
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