The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 360 - Ilhan's Fake 'Moral Outrage'

00:00:00.120 You know, the media, the poor media still has not gotten over this Katie Hill thing.

00:00:04.620 They just can't.

00:00:05.260 Every two hours, there's another long think piece by some publication about how Hill was

00:00:11.000 only forced to resign for sexual misconduct because she's a woman. 1.00

00:00:15.400 And, you know, these people are really, they really think that we've forgotten about the

00:00:20.600 Me Too movement.

00:00:21.340 They really think that we've, they want to pretend it never happened.

00:00:23.880 And now we're living in a world where that never happened.

00:00:26.720 Um, the Washington Post just published an op-ed titled, uh, revenge porn drove Katie Hill 0.54

00:00:31.980 out of Congress.

00:00:32.760 Would that have happened to a man?

00:00:35.780 Would it have happened to a man?

00:00:38.040 Uh, I don't know.

00:00:39.060 I mean, maybe ask Anthony Weiner.

00:00:41.060 Does that ring a bell?

00:00:43.000 Uh, but even forget about him because he deserved to have his career destroyed.

00:00:47.060 Um, what about all the men who, who didn't commit any crimes and were not members of Congress

00:00:53.120 committing ethics violations, but still had their careers and reputations destroyed.

00:00:58.500 Aziz Ansari.

00:00:59.500 Okay.

00:01:00.160 Uh, there weren't any pictures published, but there was a graphic description of a sexual

00:01:05.140 encounter that was entirely consensual, but the woman felt like it was awkward and she

00:01:10.420 kind of regretted it later.

00:01:11.400 So they put this entire, now, how is that not a form of revenge porn?

00:01:15.580 Fine.

00:01:16.020 No pictures, but there's a graphic description of this private thing, consensual, published,

00:01:22.000 and, uh, and that was reason enough to humiliate him in front of the entire world.

00:01:25.560 The idea that women face more scrutiny for sexual misconduct is just so divorced from reality,

00:01:32.320 so disconnected from the real world that you have to wonder what planet these people are

00:01:36.400 living on.

00:01:37.100 Just as another example, during the, the height of the Me Too movement, when, uh, we especially

00:01:43.340 were focused on sexual harassment and sexual misdeeds in Hollywood and among celebrities

00:01:49.420 and so on, um, multiple people came forward and accused Mariah Carey of sexual harassment 0.96

00:01:56.760 in graphic detail.

00:01:59.680 Now you probably didn't even hear about that because when, when, when those accusations come

00:02:04.700 out, everybody was just sort of like, eh, eh, whatever.

00:02:08.480 And then they moved on.

00:02:09.700 Now, she's a pretty big name, so you'd think maybe it would make some headlines, but it didn't

00:02:15.100 because people just don't care that much about sexual misconduct when women are the culprits. 0.99

00:02:21.780 But what the media is trying to do now is they're trying to flip it around and claim that actually, 0.96

00:02:26.780 no, people care more when it's women, which again is absolutely ludicrous. 1.00

00:02:33.660 It is the exact opposite of the case. 0.95

00:02:36.260 And we all know that we all know it.

00:02:39.620 Okay.

00:02:40.260 Um, several, just wanted to get that off my chest to begin with several things to discuss today.

00:02:44.820 We're going to talk about Ilhan Omar complaining that Walmart CEO makes more than Walmart cashiers.

00:02:51.880 Is that actually, she calls that a moral outrage, but is it really a moral outrage?

00:02:55.540 We're talking about that.

00:02:56.180 And the NCAA is finally allowing athletes to make some money on their own name, but a Republican

00:03:03.840 senator is not a fan of that.

00:03:06.220 And he wants to punish the students who dare to make any money whatsoever on their own name.

00:03:12.680 We'll talk about that.

00:03:13.240 Also, Barack Obama has come out as a far-right ideologue.

00:03:17.020 Big development there, I would say.

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00:05:00.120 Okay, so CNBC recently published a report claiming that it would take 100 years for the average

00:05:07.820 employee to earn what their CEO makes in a year, 100 years versus a year.

00:05:13.380 And this is supposed to highlight the extreme inequality, as they put it, that is out there

00:05:18.860 in the working world.

00:05:22.080 Obviously, though, there's a problem here, maybe you've already noticed it, that it assumes

00:05:27.400 that the low-wage employees we're talking about will maintain that same wage for 100 years.

00:05:35.140 Okay?

00:05:35.620 And I have to say, if you have not gotten a raise in a century, then that's probably a

00:05:41.740 reflection on you. 0.99

00:05:42.680 I mean, either you should have gotten a new job by now, or you just suck so much at your

00:05:47.600 job that after 100 years, you're still getting paid minimum wage or something.

00:05:52.380 So that should be a sign.

00:05:54.040 Now, on one hand, it's impressive that you're still working at your age, but I have to say,

00:05:58.640 you probably should have climbed a few steps of that ladder by now.

00:06:02.600 Ilhan Omar responded to this report in a tweet, and here it is.

00:06:07.200 She says, Walmart CEO's salary last year, $23,618,233.

00:06:13.160 A Walmart worker's median pay last year, $21,952.

00:06:17.660 So you got $23 million versus about $22,000.

00:06:24.080 And then Omar continues, the issue isn't that these employees aren't working hard enough,

00:06:28.920 it's that our system doesn't value workers, and it's a moral outrage.

00:06:33.740 Moral outrage, she says.

00:06:35.280 Now, she should know something about that, considering she commits a new moral outrage every week. 0.99

00:06:39.480 But this particular example she picked is actually very good. 1.00

00:06:45.020 Very good, I mean, in demonstrating why she's wrong and stupid. 0.99

00:06:52.600 In fact, to make her point, she could not have picked a worse example than the CEO of Walmart. 0.99

00:06:59.500 The CEO of Walmart, Doug McMillan, is not a trust fund baby.

00:07:04.200 He wasn't born rich.

00:07:06.240 He started at Walmart as a teenager unloading trucks in the back of the store. 0.98

00:07:12.620 He worked his way up from unloading trucks to running the whole damn company. 0.98

00:07:17.960 This is the quintessential rags to riches kind of story in America. 0.95

00:07:22.220 This is the quintessential American dream story, or at least what it used to be,

00:07:26.080 before we all became a bunch of whiny, envious babies who, rather than working hard,

00:07:30.880 we sit there and say, but he has more than me.

00:07:33.080 This isn't fair.

00:07:36.340 He went from loading trucks to being assistant manager after he got his college degree.

00:07:42.180 Then he became a buyer at the corporate headquarters.

00:07:45.420 And then he ran Sam's Club.

00:07:47.980 And then he moved over and ran Walmart International.

00:07:51.380 And then he became, back in 2014, he became the CEO of Walmart.

00:07:55.040 His first Walmart job was in 1984.

00:07:59.200 He became CEO in 2014.

00:08:02.200 That's 30 years.

00:08:03.300 It took him 30 years to make it all the way from the very bottom of Walmart,

00:08:08.060 of the Walmart hierarchy, to the very top.

00:08:11.100 Okay, he started at Walmart two years before I was born.

00:08:16.480 And he only became CEO five years ago.

00:08:19.660 So this is a very long time.

00:08:21.860 Now, what does this prove?

00:08:24.060 Well, it proves a few things, I think.

00:08:28.000 First of all, where Walmart is concerned, and this is not equally true of every company.

00:08:33.580 It kind of depends on the company.

00:08:34.760 But especially with Walmart, there is upward mobility.

00:08:39.640 You don't have to stay in that $21,000 range for your whole career.

00:08:49.260 Especially, you don't have to stay there for 100 years.

00:08:52.320 You can work your way up.

00:08:54.320 It is possible to do that at Walmart.

00:08:56.100 If a stock boy working in the back can become CEO, that's pretty good evidence that it's possible to be promoted internally.

00:09:05.240 Second, it would also seem to indicate that Doug McMillan actually has worked harder than most other people in the company.

00:09:14.560 Think about what Omar is doing with this comparison.

00:09:18.720 Listen, these people in Walmart who are making that $21,000, $22,000 a year amount, the vast majority of them are probably going to be people who have only been in the company for a few months.

00:09:33.000 Now, the turnover rate in a place like Walmart, I don't know exactly what it is for Walmart.

00:09:39.840 I don't have the statistics in front of me.

00:09:41.600 But it's pretty high in these big box retailers or fast food.

00:09:45.560 Because people come in and the people who work there don't plan on being there for very long.

00:09:51.400 This is just a temporary thing they're doing, whether it's for a few months or a couple of years.

00:09:55.700 And so that's what it is going to be for most of these people.

00:09:58.120 At a place like Walmart, the majority of employees are there temporarily, and they have no intention of staying for the long haul.

00:10:09.660 McMillan, on the other hand, got into his head the idea that he wanted to be a buyer for the company, and he worked his way to that goal.

00:10:16.440 He actually called Walmart.

00:10:17.680 He went and got his college degree, then he called Walmart up, got in touch with an executive, and asked how he could train to gain that position.

00:10:25.440 Now, I ask you, how many of these people making 21 grand at Walmart are even thinking about what their next move in the company is?

00:10:35.620 How many of them are thinking about they want to become a buyer?

00:10:38.360 Or how many are trying to track down an executive they could talk to about, you know, how can I get training to – how many are doing that?

00:10:45.420 I'm not saying none have, but I would submit to you that the employees at Walmart who are thinking like that and are doing things like that, trying to track down the people who are above them and asking about, okay, what are training courses I can take?

00:11:02.500 What can I do?

00:11:04.240 People who are willing to – you know, McMillan went to different stores and different places, willing to move around, willing to do whatever it takes.

00:11:11.460 I would submit that almost everybody at Walmart with that attitude and that willingness and who also has the basic competency and the basic skill sets required, almost everyone in that camp, and who wants Walmart to be a career.

00:11:30.040 So now we've really whittled it down here.

00:11:32.160 That's my point.

00:11:33.380 This is – now we're talking about a relatively small group of people in Walmart.

00:11:37.520 And I would say that almost all of them in that group are moving up the chain and are not making – and are making more than $21,000 a year.

00:11:48.740 But as I said, almost everyone is outside of that.

00:11:53.160 And I don't blame.

00:11:54.300 This is – this is not – I'm not blaming it.

00:11:56.240 If you work at a big box retailer or something and you don't want this to be your career and you're doing the bare minimum, basically, you're going in, taking your paycheck, doing the bare minimum.

00:12:05.700 And just praying for the day when you can leave.

00:12:10.540 I don't blame you.

00:12:11.580 That's – I work these retail jobs.

00:12:13.100 That's exactly how I approached it because I didn't want this.

00:12:15.760 I didn't – I have no desire to, you know, retail and do – that's not what I want to do.

00:12:20.720 So if that's not what you want to do either and you're just there to make the paycheck and that's all you're interested in, fine.

00:12:27.020 I don't blame you.

00:12:27.660 I was the same way.

00:12:28.600 I totally get it.

00:12:30.540 But then you can't very well be upset that you're not making as much as the CEO, okay?

00:12:36.940 You can't be upset that you're not making as much as the guy who has made this his career for 30 years.

00:12:42.840 Obviously.

00:12:45.040 Now, so find me someone who has been at Walmart for, let's say, five years, wants it to be a career, has been working hard and is reliable, is basically good at their job, yet still is just a cashier and hasn't moved up at all in position or salary in those five years.

00:13:06.820 I'm not saying that it's impossible to find an example.

00:13:09.980 I think it would be very difficult to find an example of someone like that because I think almost everyone in that category has moved up and is now at least, you know, is an assistant manager or something.

00:13:21.620 They've moved on to a different kind of position by now.

00:13:23.820 Now, that, and so my point is this.

00:13:32.700 Ilhan Omar is absurdly comparing the salary of someone who's been there only a few months and doesn't want it to be a career and wants to leave to the salary of someone who worked there for 30 years and has been career-minded the whole time. 0.99

00:13:48.920 That is idiotic. 1.00

00:13:50.460 That is flat-out idiotic. 1.00

00:13:51.820 Idiotic. 1.00

00:13:52.980 Income inequality, speaking of idiotic, is an idiotic, not just an idiotic phrase, it is a useless phrase. 1.00

00:13:59.860 It is a phrase that tells us nothing and that you can't do anything with. 1.00

00:14:04.600 Of course, income inequality.

00:14:06.380 Of course, they're unequal.

00:14:08.040 Of course, incomes are unequal.

00:14:09.720 That's because you get paid based on the job you're doing, the industry you're in, and all of that.

00:14:17.880 People do different jobs in different industries.

00:14:20.460 They have different skill sets.

00:14:21.820 They have varying degrees of competency.

00:14:24.200 They put in varying amounts of effort.

00:14:26.780 They have been working for different amounts of time, etc., etc., etc.

00:14:31.440 There are a hundred different variables that affect this.

00:14:36.960 So to demand income equality is to suggest either that none of these variables matter, which would be crazy,

00:14:47.000 and that our salary shouldn't be based on that, or that maybe these variables don't exist.

00:14:56.340 I don't know how else you can go with it.

00:14:57.840 But then the question is, okay, if income is not going to be based on all of these variables, of which I only gave a few examples,

00:15:07.760 how long you've been doing the job, how good you are at it, how much effort you put in, how reliable you are,

00:15:12.060 what industry you're in, all of that, if that's not what your income is based on, then what the hell would it be based on?

00:15:20.440 I don't know how else to have an income that isn't based on that stuff.

00:15:25.000 It doesn't make any sense.

00:15:30.040 So as long as there are, as everyone in the working world is in vastly different sorts of situations,

00:15:39.840 you're going to find vastly different incomes.

00:15:45.380 And that makes sense.

00:15:46.740 It would only be a moral outrage if it were impossible for someone in the lower tier to work their way up to the upper tiers. 0.64

00:16:01.720 But it's not impossible.

00:16:03.300 And especially in Walmart, again, we have to keep going back to this,

00:16:09.440 the guy who runs the joint started in the back of a store unloading trucks.

00:16:14.180 So that tells you, it doesn't mean that everyone can become CEO.

00:16:17.340 Obviously, there could only be one, like Highlander.

00:16:20.120 But it does tell you that it is possible.

00:16:23.480 You don't have to stay there.

00:16:24.960 And if you don't want to be in the back of unloading trucks, you don't have to stay there forever.

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00:18:17.260 Okay, this is pretty shocking.

00:18:18.420 Barack Obama came out as a far-right ideologue.

00:18:22.220 I don't think anyone expected that to happen.

00:18:23.840 But speaking yesterday, he was talking about cancel culture and saying that cancel culture is a bad thing

00:18:29.720 and that you shouldn't criticize people for small mistakes and try to destroy them

00:18:34.680 just in an effort to seem woke yourself.

00:18:38.380 Well, listen to what he had to say.

00:18:40.440 You know, this idea of purity and you're never compromised and you're always politically woke and all that stuff,

00:18:47.840 you should get over that quickly.

00:18:49.860 The world is messy.

00:18:53.060 There are ambiguities.

00:18:56.580 People who do really good stuff have flaws.

00:19:02.980 Like if I tweet or hashtag about how you didn't do something right or used the word wrong verb,

00:19:10.600 then I can sit back and feel pretty good about myself.

00:19:14.540 Because, man, you see how woke I was?

00:19:16.200 I called you out.

00:19:20.220 Let me get on TV.

00:19:22.820 Watch my show.

00:19:24.560 Watch Grown-ish.

00:19:29.020 You know, that's not...

00:19:31.420 That's not activism.

00:19:33.320 That's not bringing about change.

00:19:36.000 Wow.

00:19:36.480 The guy's an absolute right-wing extremist.

00:19:38.540 This is...

00:19:39.120 This is...

00:19:39.700 Anyway, this is what qualifies as right-wing extremism these days.

00:19:42.940 Basically, any rational statement of any kind puts you at odds with the far left.

00:19:47.460 If you say anything rational on any subject, you by default now are a conservative.

00:19:53.760 And that's not the system that conservatives have set up.

00:19:57.680 This is how leftists have decided that it should be.

00:20:00.820 So, I would say welcome to Barack Obama to the far right.

00:20:04.100 We meet Tuesdays and Thursdays at 8 p.m.

00:20:06.860 Do bring a dish.

00:20:07.780 It's usually a potluck type of thing.

00:20:10.900 And, in fact, one thing I'll say is that, you know, with the cancel culture thing,

00:20:16.880 when more and more celebrities and prominent people, even people who seem to be on the left,

00:20:25.160 are coming out against cancel culture, it's...

00:20:29.120 Yeah, we appreciate the fact that they're saying this, but it also is self-preservation.

00:20:36.040 I think more people are realizing...

00:20:38.280 That's why there are a lot of people who participated in cancel culture and were at the forefront of it.

00:20:42.780 But, Barack Obama being one of them, I mean, you want to talk about cancel culture,

00:20:49.800 how about Barack Obama basically intentionally stirring up race mobs

00:20:54.660 and against, you know, an anti-police hysteria over things like, you know, the Michael Brown shooting,

00:21:05.540 which turned out to be entirely justified by the police officer.

00:21:09.260 So, but I think you have people like Barack Obama who are now coming out against it,

00:21:15.700 and you can't give them too much credit because what they're realizing is that everybody is susceptible to this.

00:21:24.980 That this is a parasite that can infect anybody.

00:21:31.940 And this is a mob.

00:21:32.760 This is the mob has, as mobs often do, the mob has become uncontrollable.

00:21:37.080 And so you thought that you could whip it up and send it against other people.

00:21:42.340 And what you're realizing is that, no, they're going to...

00:21:44.400 They'll get bored eventually and turn around and come after you.

00:21:47.980 And as more and more people realize that, they say that, oh, you know what, maybe this isn't such a good idea.

00:21:54.260 And to that I say, yes, you're right, but I'm sorry, I really can't give you credit for that.

00:21:59.120 You should have realized this a long time ago.

00:22:01.740 So, the NCAA finally decided that it will allow college athletes to make money off of their own names and images.

00:22:10.400 They're only doing this because, speaking of self-preservation, they're realizing that, well, they're basically forced into it.

00:22:18.960 States are forcing their hand and they're trying to avoid a court battle over it,

00:22:22.880 which the chairman of the NCAA Board of Governors was very open about, and he admitted that that's why they're doing this.

00:22:27.640 But they are making the right call, even if only for reasons of self-preservation.

00:22:34.100 Now, to be clear about this, this is not athletes getting paid a salary.

00:22:40.100 This is, well, the details haven't been completely worked out yet,

00:22:44.060 but the basic idea is that an athlete can make money on his own image and his own name.

00:22:49.560 So, maybe, for example, if people wanted his jersey signed, they wanted a signed jersey of his, he could profit off of that.

00:22:59.100 It is his name, after all.

00:23:01.520 Why shouldn't he?

00:23:02.480 It is his name.

00:23:04.060 Why should there ever be a situation where you are not allowed, if somebody wants to pay you money to put your name on something,

00:23:12.580 why should there ever be a situation where you are not allowed to do it?

00:23:16.000 Okay, unless you're in prison or something, maybe with exception of that, outside of prison,

00:23:25.600 it doesn't matter who you are, it really doesn't matter who you are or what you're doing.

00:23:28.940 If somebody wants to pay you money to put your name on something, you should be able to take the money.

00:23:34.540 Of course you should.

00:23:35.380 And it's just, if you want to talk about free market, you cannot pretend to be a free market advocate

00:23:42.360 if you're saying that there should ever be a situation outside of prison

00:23:46.460 where a person shouldn't be allowed, shouldn't be allowed to make money

00:23:50.740 or to accept money from someone who wants to pay them for their name.

00:23:55.960 Because if that's not included in free market, that is the essence of the free market.

00:24:00.700 I can't think of a better example of what the free market looks like than that.

00:24:06.420 And if you're saying no to that, then you are not a free market advocate.

00:24:10.100 You don't believe in the free markets and stop pretending that you do.

00:24:15.140 But there are people that remain steadfastly opposed to college athletes making any money at all

00:24:21.840 in relation to the sport that they play.

00:24:27.640 And there are people who feel very strongly, they feel very strongly that college athletes should be broke.

00:24:33.340 It's very important.

00:24:34.620 Now, it's really weird to me.

00:24:36.900 It's really weird that if you feel so strongly that college athletes should be broke.

00:24:41.700 It's very important to you personally that the people you're watching on TV aren't making money.

00:24:47.600 You just feel, you really hate the idea they're making money.

00:24:50.540 That, at a minimum to me, that makes you kind of a weirdo.

00:24:53.040 That's a very weird conviction to have.

00:24:57.640 One of those weirdos is Senator Burr from North Carolina who said, this is quoting from him on Twitter,

00:25:04.340 he says,

00:25:05.100 If college athletes are going to make money off their likenesses while in school,

00:25:08.560 their scholarship should be treated like income.

00:25:10.500 I'll be introducing legislation that subjects scholarships given to athletes who choose to cash in to income taxes.

00:25:16.360 To reiterate, he wants to impose an expressly punitive tax on the scholarships,

00:25:26.740 not on the money they make from their names and likenesses, if they're selling jerseys or whatever.

00:25:31.600 That's already, of course, that's going to be taxed.

00:25:34.320 If that's all on the up and up, then, yeah, you're going to be taxed on that.

00:25:38.720 I don't think anyone has an issue with that.

00:25:40.740 But he wants to tax also the scholarship as a punishment for them engaging in the free market.

00:25:50.840 So this isn't him saying that, you know, I've thought about it and I really think that in general,

00:25:55.240 scholarships should be taxed, which they already are in some circumstances.

00:25:58.840 I think most of the time they're not, but it's all kind of complicated like everything is with the IRS these days.

00:26:03.700 But what he wants to do is he wants to treat the scholarship as income only if the athlete has committed the sin of accepting money for his own name and likeness.

00:26:17.700 So this is punitive.

00:26:20.620 And and it is it is treating a scholarship as income.

00:26:25.200 And this is a conservative Republican, quote unquote.

00:26:28.380 So this is the NCAA might let these kids make a bit of money on their own names and images.

00:26:38.920 They're not going to become millionaires.

00:26:40.860 So if you're so worried about the integrity of, oh, my gosh, the integrity of amateur sports.

00:26:46.760 OK, well, it has no integrity.

00:26:48.320 So maybe open your eyes and pay attention.

00:26:51.020 I don't know where you've been for the last several decades, but amateur sports doesn't exist.

00:26:57.120 It is a billion dollar industry and the people involved in it already make millions.

00:27:03.160 The only difference is we make an exception for the players and they don't make anything.

00:27:06.680 But oh, well, they get the scholarship.

00:27:09.000 I'll get to that in a second.

00:27:09.760 The idea that the scholarship is some great treat, you know, some some great honor.

00:27:13.980 They've been given a scholarship.

00:27:14.860 So it means they shouldn't make any other money.

00:27:16.000 I'll get to that in a second.

00:27:17.380 But.

00:27:18.920 You know, coaches and administrators, executives.

00:27:22.180 They make millions already.

00:27:26.320 It is a billion dollar industry and people are making millions on it. 0.96

00:27:29.320 So it is not an amateur sport to call that amateur is ridiculous.

00:27:34.680 The NCAA also is incredibly absurdly corrupt, which is why they're embroiled in a new scandal every year. 0.96

00:27:44.120 So it is already corrupt.

00:27:46.060 It is not amateur.

00:27:47.560 It's worth a billion dollars.

00:27:49.560 People are making millions.

00:27:50.640 So if you're worried about protecting the integrity of this amateur organization, you obviously have not paid attention for about 50 years because that went away a long time ago.

00:28:03.540 But even, you know, if it really would upset you, the idea that, you know, if someone you've got coaches making 10 million dollars a year, if it would upset you that players made that amount, too.

00:28:14.380 I don't know why it would upset you, but don't worry.

00:28:17.540 That's not what would happen here.

00:28:18.840 I don't think anyone's going to make 10 million dollars selling their jersey or whatever else they would sell.

00:28:23.880 I don't know what.

00:28:24.960 And it's not specific yet.

00:28:26.200 So we don't know exactly.

00:28:27.040 We can't really talk about numbers.

00:28:29.140 But I think it would be safe to estimate.

00:28:31.180 That maybe some of these kids could make, yeah, I don't know, 30, 40, 50,000 a year or something like that on maybe.

00:28:40.320 I don't know.

00:28:41.800 It's not going to be a lot.

00:28:45.460 But.

00:28:45.680 So Burr's response to that.

00:28:50.000 To the fact that some of these kids might make a little bit of money is to confiscate it.

00:28:54.380 He wants to come in and just take it.

00:28:56.380 He's saying, oh, you think you can make money on your own name?

00:28:58.660 Nope, I'm taking it.

00:29:02.480 It's going to go into my coffers, not yours.

00:29:04.500 And amazingly, from what I just from what I've seen on Twitter anyway, some people are supporting this.

00:29:12.340 People who can all call themselves conservatives are saying, yeah, take that money.

00:29:16.240 You take it, politician.

00:29:17.880 It's yours, not his. 0.99

00:29:20.340 How dare he?

00:29:21.920 He thinks he can make money on his own name.

00:29:24.440 Well, if I can't, he can't.

00:29:26.020 I really think it is jealousy.

00:29:27.500 I think people are just jealous that, you know, no one's going to pay you for your name because no one cares.

00:29:31.640 So you're jealous.

00:29:32.540 And you're like, well, if I can't have it, he can't.

00:29:34.500 And I think that is part of it because I've also heard talking about the scholarship thing for a minute.

00:29:41.700 You'll hear people say, well, you know, they're getting a full ride scholarship just to play a sport.

00:29:47.320 I didn't get a full ride scholarship, so they should be happy with that.

00:29:51.380 All right, let's talk about the scholarship for a minute.

00:29:54.660 The reason why, and, you know, I'm trying to be delicate here, but the reason why you didn't get a full ride scholarship is because when you were going to college,

00:30:02.580 you weren't good at anything, okay, no one was going to offer you a scholarship because you really didn't bring anything to the table.

00:30:10.180 Again, I'm not, you know, this is, I'm trying to be delicate.

00:30:12.540 I don't mean it as an insult, but if the reason why, one of these days I'll remember to turn my phone down when I do this,

00:30:22.740 but this is a, speaking of amateur, the reason why you didn't get a scholarship is because you, you know,

00:30:31.720 when you went to college, you just weren't really good at anything, and the colleges didn't need to offer it to you

00:30:37.020 because they could take or leave you.

00:30:38.180 It was really more of a privilege for you, at least from the college's perspective.

00:30:44.080 You're the one.

00:30:44.900 You have to go and beg them for admission, and then when you do come, you have to pay them

00:30:49.820 because as far as they're concerned, if you don't come, who cares?

00:30:53.980 Somebody else will.

00:30:56.280 Now, a really good athlete, especially one who plays in a popular sport like football or basketball,

00:31:03.820 it's a totally different scenario because, number one, this is someone who is very, very good at something.

00:31:10.500 Now, you could say all you want that, well, they're good at a skill.

00:31:13.120 It doesn't matter.

00:31:15.200 You say it doesn't matter.

00:31:17.160 They're good at a skill that is very profitable that people are really interested in,

00:31:22.840 and, you know, they're great athletes.

00:31:26.240 I don't think that's a worthless skill. 0.98

00:31:29.320 I don't think that athletes do some worthless, dumb thing.

00:31:32.280 I mean, think about what most of us do for a living. 0.97

00:31:35.860 You sit in an office all day.

00:31:37.320 I mean, you think what you do is more significant than what an athlete does?

00:31:40.640 I don't think so necessarily.

00:31:42.760 Now, maybe if you're a surgeon or, you know, something like that, then yes.

00:31:46.780 But they're very good at what they did, what they do.

00:31:52.540 And the reason why the school is offered a scholarship is because the school really wants this person

00:31:57.280 who's really good at this thing to come to their school.

00:32:00.060 So they, the school, can make money off of the student.

00:32:05.020 And so, of course, they say, oh, yeah, come for free.

00:32:07.720 Because if they don't let the student come for free, then some other school will come in and offer the free ride,

00:32:12.980 and they'll lose out.

00:32:14.280 So it's not out of the generosity of their hearts that they offered a scholarship.

00:32:19.440 They did it because they want to profit off of this person who is really good and has a profitable,

00:32:26.380 marketable skill that you didn't have when you went to college.

00:32:30.280 They do.

00:32:31.740 So that's why they get the free ride scholarship.

00:32:33.720 It is not charity, and they did earn it because they've been working hard since they were, like, five years old.

00:32:40.160 It's the only thing they've been focused on.

00:32:41.880 They put in thousands of hours of practice at whatever sport they play, and that's how that worked out for them.

00:32:47.360 Now, the idea that, you know, that should be enough, and it's somehow a scandal if they make any other money, 0.96

00:33:01.400 it, to me, is completely ridiculous.

00:33:03.220 I would hope we could agree, at a minimum, that the government has no right to just come in punitively and take the money. 0.87

00:33:13.420 Because this is really what it's about.

00:33:16.560 These kids have a marketable skill.

00:33:20.020 People are making money off of them.

00:33:22.500 The question is, should they be allowed to make a little bit of the money as well?

00:33:27.560 There's a lot of money flying around based on what these kids are doing.

00:33:33.400 The only question is, that money's already out there.

00:33:36.320 That's my point with, oh, it's amateur.

00:33:38.000 It's not.

00:33:38.480 The money's there, and it's being spent, and it's going back and forth, and there are many transactions happening.

00:33:44.520 The only question is, should the kids get any of that?

00:33:49.760 I say, well, of course they should.

00:33:51.280 Why shouldn't they?

00:33:53.120 Who should get the money? 0.61

00:33:54.960 Should it be only the coaches and administrators, or should the athletes get a little bit of it, too?

00:34:01.000 Or should the government get it?

00:34:04.800 Now, I would hope, especially if you call yourself a conservative, you would agree that the government shouldn't get any of it.

00:34:09.720 Why should Burr get any of it?

00:34:12.940 Why does he have a say?

00:34:13.980 How about butt out?

00:34:15.020 Mind your own business.

00:34:15.960 Got nothing to do with you.

00:34:16.760 But certainly, there's no reason.

00:34:23.900 I mean, what if, forget about athletes for a minute.

00:34:26.480 What if, you know, what if somebody was in school, in med school, going to school for medicine, and for some reason, someone came up to them and said, I want to pay you 50 bucks for an autograph.

00:34:42.100 Should that med school student be allowed to accept the money?

00:34:45.580 Of course.

00:34:46.260 No one would deny it.

00:34:47.180 So, why should it be different for an athlete?

00:34:54.020 Okay, let's go to emails.

00:34:58.240 mattwalshowatgmail.com

00:34:59.560 mattwalshowatgmail.com

00:35:00.900 This is from Vinay.

00:35:05.260 I hope I'm pronouncing that right.

00:35:06.200 Vinay, Vinay, maybe.

00:35:07.480 I love your show.

00:35:08.300 I listen to you every day.

00:35:08.920 You mentioned that venting is a bad thing.

00:35:10.460 My wife vents after work sometimes, expressing her frustration at work. 0.99

00:35:13.300 I listen to her and just say things like it's supposed to get better or it's going to get better, giving her hope and a positive look ahead.

00:35:19.180 I think venting is okay as long as it's not directed towards each other.

00:35:22.720 I think we have to be there for each other when things are not going that great.

00:35:28.400 Yeah, well, there's nothing wrong with telling your spouse about your stresses at work.

00:35:31.100 It's good to talk about those things.

00:35:32.400 I think the problem arises when you're constantly dumping your negativity on your spouse, constantly complaining about every little stress you have, never choosing to keep any of your negative emotions to yourself.

00:35:43.300 And that was my point yesterday.

00:35:46.960 I think, obviously, within reason, we share.

00:35:49.800 We are supposed to share with our spouse.

00:35:51.340 But I think what ends up happening with this idea that, well, you should never keep anything from your spouse, that becomes an excuse to constantly be vomiting out all of the negativity and all of the complaints and everything.

00:36:05.880 And I do think that sometimes in a relationship, you've got to keep some of that to yourself.

00:36:11.080 Because the other thing to keep in mind is, okay, you come home, you've been stressed out.

00:36:17.200 Your spouse probably also has been stressed out.

00:36:19.740 So as soon as you see them, as soon as they walk in the door, you walk in the door, and you just unload and do this every day.

00:36:25.840 What about them?

00:36:26.500 Do you think they look forward to coming home and listening to you whine every single day?

00:36:31.780 No.

00:36:32.400 So that's what I think we have to look out for in a marriage.

00:36:36.200 Let's go to Brian.

00:36:37.420 Says, Matt, I'm an avid follower of you and dancing with the stars.

00:36:40.260 This week, Sean Spicer is officially equal to Sanjaya.

00:36:43.520 You said this in one of the first weeks of competition.

00:36:45.500 I thought it was too early to say that.

00:36:46.760 But there was at least one other chump that Sean was better than, Lamar Odom. 0.96

00:36:50.880 Last week, Sean slipped by and a decent celebrity went home.

00:36:53.960 This week, Sean has no business being in the competition anymore.

00:36:56.840 But the Trump nation is voting him through like Sanjaya of old.

00:36:59.800 Sanjaya of old.

00:37:00.680 I like that.

00:37:01.820 He even got booed when he was not even named in the bottom two based on votes.

00:37:06.160 Kind of funny he got booed a day after Trump on TV.

00:37:08.820 The audience boos a lot of the judges, but I've never heard them boo a contestant for being safe from elimination.

00:37:13.620 I guess the joke must go on.

00:37:14.900 I think the only difference is that I felt Sanjaya really did think he was good enough to advance, 0.96

00:37:19.060 whereas Sean is very aware that he sucks at dancing.

00:37:22.220 And I believe he knows he shouldn't be dancing with the others anymore.

00:37:25.980 Thanks for making my 45-minute commute entertaining.

00:37:28.620 Yeah, thanks, Brian.

00:37:29.240 Now that you mention it, let's take a look at Sean Spicer's latest spectacle on Dancing with the Stars.

00:37:34.980 This one, it keeps getting worse, but this one might be the worst one of all.

00:37:38.080 I was working in the lab late one night when my eyes beheld an eerie sight for my monster from his slab began to rise.

00:37:53.760 And suddenly, to my surprise, he did the monster from my laboratory in the castle east to the monster bedroom where the vampires feast. 0.97

00:38:15.880 The fools all came from their humble abodes to get a jolt from my electrodes. 0.99

00:38:22.620 They did the monster mash. 1.00

00:38:23.620 They did the monster mash.

00:38:25.620 It was a graveyard smash.

00:38:28.360 It caught on in a flash.

00:38:31.900 It's now the monster mash.

00:38:34.860 Now everything's cool tracks are part of a band.

00:38:38.160 And my monster mash is the hit of the land.

00:38:41.460 For you, the living, this mash was meant to.

00:38:44.340 When you get to my daughter, then Boris sent you.

00:38:48.580 Then you can monster mash. 0.75

00:38:51.720 And do my graveyard smash.

00:38:55.280 This is what I'm talking about.

00:38:56.400 His dancing is getting worse with each round.

00:38:58.960 How is that possible?

00:39:00.760 How is he not at least improving?

00:39:02.880 He's getting whiter with each round.

00:39:05.260 By the end of this thing, he's going to look like a drunk, peg-legged polar bear up there.

00:39:11.020 He kind of already was that.

00:39:12.740 But I don't know how it can get worse.

00:39:15.100 It keeps getting worse.

00:39:15.740 He's getting worse at dancing as he learns dancing.

00:39:20.300 Now, I've said this a dozen times already.

00:39:23.660 This is America.

00:39:25.580 We reward greatness in this country.

00:39:29.100 Sean Spicer is not a great dancer.

00:39:31.460 He's not even satisfactory.

00:39:33.580 And he's not even a great personality.

00:39:35.480 Where you could say, well, he doesn't dance well, but he's got this charming personality.

00:39:39.800 And so it's TV.

00:39:41.100 And that's why.

00:39:41.960 He has no personality to speak of.

00:39:44.400 No dancing skill.

00:39:47.140 He's known only for being the White House spokesman.

00:39:50.540 How boring.

00:39:52.000 And that's the other thing.

00:39:52.480 Why are people rallying around the White House?

00:39:55.300 The former White House spokesman is now your rallying cry?

00:40:00.200 Why?

00:40:01.120 I couldn't think of a blander, more boring thing to rally around.

00:40:07.040 And you know what?

00:40:10.920 If this argument doesn't convince you, then what about his dance partner?

00:40:14.780 She's a professional dancer. 0.99

00:40:16.260 And she's being tied to this lumbering oaf for months now.

00:40:20.500 This is not fair.

00:40:21.260 This has become forced labor.

00:40:24.120 This is enslavement.

00:40:26.260 This is unconstitutional, what's happening to this woman. 1.00

00:40:31.240 But here's the really annoying thing.

00:40:32.760 If people were just voting this guy through because it's funny and they're ruining the show just for a good laugh, then I could kind of get it.

00:40:41.520 And I would say, I think it's still un-American and it's still probably unconstitutional because of what it's doing to the woman. 1.00

00:40:47.020 But I kind of get it because, listen, as someone who enjoys trolling sometimes myself, I understand the joys of trolling.

00:40:55.900 But that's not really what's happening here.

00:40:58.240 I think there are a lot of people who really believe that they're making some sort of important stand.

00:41:05.920 They're making some sort of important cultural and political stand.

00:41:09.040 That's the impression I'm getting, at least when I've talked about this and some of the feedback.

00:41:14.240 It seems maybe it's kind of a mix.

00:41:16.500 I think there are some people who are doing it for a laugh, but then there are a lot of other people who are saying, yeah, we're sticking it to the libs and hollyweird, that kind of thing.

00:41:26.680 The kinds of people who say things like libs and hollyweird and oh bummer, you know, those types of people, they're the ones who are doing this.

00:41:36.900 In all earnestness, they believe that it's some important thing.

00:41:41.120 And Sean Spicer thinks that he's also, that this is a, you know, he's standing for Christ.

00:41:45.520 This is a, I think he said something like that.

00:41:49.240 I forget what the quote was, but he tied this, his awful dancing to Christ.

00:41:54.900 In a way, maybe it is.

00:41:55.980 We're all going through a passion in our own way of suffering by having to watch this.

00:42:01.080 But that's what annoys me about it.

00:42:03.660 If I could just be convinced that this is all a joke, I'd be less annoyed.

00:42:07.660 But the fact that there's some earnestness to it makes me annoyed by it.

00:42:13.220 But not that it really matters that much.

00:42:14.620 I don't even watch Dancing with the Stars, but I have taken an interest in this plot line.

00:42:18.820 And maybe, so, you know, maybe in the end.

00:42:24.620 Maybe that's really what's going on here.

00:42:26.660 The people Dancing with the Stars, they pretend like they're upset, but, you know, it's got someone like me talking about it.

00:42:32.920 All right, we'll leave it there.

00:42:34.220 Thanks, everybody, for watching.

00:42:35.800 Godspeed.

00:42:36.120 We'll see you next time.

00:43:06.120 If you want to delve the depths of leftist madness, head on over to The Michael Knowles Show,

00:43:23.920 where we examine what's really going on beneath the surface of our politics

00:43:27.540 and bask in the simple joys of being right.

The Matt Walsh Show - October 30, 2019

Ep. 360 - Ilhan's Fake 'Moral Outrage'

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