The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 363 - Smear Merchant Adjacent

00:00:00.700 Well, a new poll just came out that has Joe Biden at the head of the Democratic primary

00:00:05.520 pack, which isn't surprising.

00:00:07.460 But Hillary Clinton is just about tied with him.

00:00:10.860 She's ahead of everybody except Biden, who she's almost tied with.

00:00:14.700 And let me say, if I could, and I'm being honest here, I don't like to admit this, but

00:00:23.020 I think I can speak for all of the card carrying members of the American right, of which, of

00:00:28.800 course, I am a part of that group.

00:00:31.620 But I speak for all of them when I say that I am absolutely terrified of a Hillary Clinton 0.92

00:00:37.720 candidacy.

00:00:39.080 It scares me so much.

00:00:40.600 So please, Hillary, do not run.

00:00:42.860 I beg you, please don't run.

00:00:45.580 If you ran, Hillary, you know, you would just cruise to victory and it wouldn't be fair. 0.99

00:00:50.060 It would not be fair to do that, to run for a third time.

00:00:54.140 So we all come together, all of us conservatives, and we join our hands and our voices and we

00:00:58.780 plead with you, have some mercy on us.

00:01:01.760 Don't run for a third time.

00:01:03.060 You are the one contender we fear.

00:01:05.360 You are so dynamic, so formidable, such a powerful force and personality and so electric.

00:01:14.620 People are just, and magnetic.

00:01:17.300 You know, people are drawn to you, as we saw the first two times you ran.

00:01:21.380 I mean, really, I think if you did run, we would throw up our hands and say, no point

00:01:27.920 in having an election now.

00:01:28.860 There's no reason.

00:01:29.400 Let's just, I mean, why even do it?

00:01:31.680 What's the point of going, why waste our time doing the whole election thing?

00:01:36.280 In fact, I was talking to a friend of mine recently.

00:01:38.280 We were out at a bar, at kind of a right-wing bar.

00:01:42.820 Everyone had assault rifles, you know, strapped to their backs and we were all wearing NRA

00:01:49.180 hats and, you know, like we do, we're just hanging out.

00:01:52.340 And he goes, phew, thank God Hillary isn't running. 1.00

00:01:56.720 That lady is unbeatable. 1.00

00:01:58.500 And I said, I agree, she's unbeatable, but I think she still might run. 0.86

00:02:02.720 And then he started crying.

00:02:04.520 I'm not making this up.

00:02:05.240 He started crying when he was thinking about it.

00:02:06.840 And everyone in the bar, everyone started crying, thinking about what would happen if Hillary

00:02:10.320 couldn't ran for president.

00:02:11.540 This is how it always goes.

00:02:12.640 It goes, you say the name Hillary to any conservative and they start trembling with fear as tears

00:02:17.260 well up in their eyes.

00:02:18.360 And really, Hillary, with all this stuff about Epstein in the news and everything, your husband

00:02:22.320 being such a good friend of his, I think that would be a huge help on the campaign trail

00:02:27.280 as well because it gives you such a great insight into the issue.

00:02:31.940 You know, you could really talk from experience about all the times your husband rode on, you

00:02:37.940 know, on Epstein's private plane or went to his rape mansions and all that stuff.

00:02:41.960 It kind of gives you this insight that no one else has, which I think is also a great

00:02:45.300 asset.

00:02:45.760 So the point is, please don't run.

00:02:48.100 I promise you that is the last thing we want.

00:02:53.020 Now, I guess I just have to move on because I can't even think about this anymore because

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00:04:46.920 I want to start with this just because it annoys me.

00:04:50.760 The Boston Globe ran an article on Friday complaining about Facebook, which is great

00:04:58.300 because we've only seen about 10,000 of those kinds of articles in the last month.

00:05:02.900 So in case you didn't get the point yet, the Boston Globe was there to clarify things

00:05:06.720 and talk about how Facebook is terrible and evil and all of that.

00:05:10.440 During the article, they decide to take a shot at the Daily Wire, which also is not a

00:05:17.100 unique thing either.

00:05:18.520 But here's what the article says.

00:05:21.440 Quoting now.

00:05:23.180 In response, we saw him, Zuckerberg, launch a repurposed news section that sets up partnerships

00:05:28.920 between the networks and a wide range of publishers.

00:05:32.300 And then in parentheses, including white supremacist adjacent alt-right outposts like the Daily Wire.

00:05:37.760 Yes, white supremacist adjacent.

00:05:41.300 Alt-right outpost.

00:05:42.760 Post.

00:05:44.780 Those are the two ways they describe the Daily Wire.

00:05:47.540 Now, I have a couple of questions here. 0.95

00:05:49.300 First of all, what the hell is white supremacist adjacent?

00:05:53.900 What does that even mean? 0.99

00:05:55.960 White supremacist adjacent.

00:05:58.780 Well, I'll tell you what it means.

00:06:01.320 It means that they really wanted to just come out and call us white supremacists.

00:06:05.980 That's what they really wanted to do.

00:06:07.220 But they realized that they couldn't because Ben Shapiro is an Orthodox Jew.

00:06:12.080 And calling an Orthodox Jew a white supremacist is a bridge that they love to cross, but they know they really can't.

00:06:19.100 I mean, the media has crossed that bridge many times before.

00:06:23.040 Many times. 1.00

00:06:25.360 But they end up getting blasted for it from all directions because it's not only stupid and wrong, but it's grotesque. 1.00

00:06:31.960 So instead, they decide to pull their punch a little bit on this one, and they say white supremacist adjacent. 1.00

00:06:37.080 They take the coward's way out. 0.99

00:06:39.100 And this way, they can say, oh, no, no, no, we didn't call you white supremacist. 0.99

00:06:42.560 We just said that you're white supremacist adjacent is all. 0.96

00:06:47.560 Sure.

00:06:48.080 Okay, Boston Globe.

00:06:49.040 So this article was written by a guy named Michael Andor Broder. 1.00

00:06:55.160 And what I would say about Michael Andor Broder is, well, I would never call him a stupid, lying, disgraceful smear merchant. 0.99

00:07:05.820 I would never say that. 1.00

00:07:07.880 I just wouldn't.

00:07:09.080 It wouldn't be right.

00:07:09.960 It would be very Christian of me. 1.00

00:07:11.180 So, no, he's not a stupid, lying, disgraceful, smear merchant. 1.00

00:07:15.060 He's just stupid, lying, disgraceful, disgraceful, smear merchant adjacent, you see. 1.00

00:07:21.240 He's adjacent to that. 1.00

00:07:22.460 He hangs out in the vicinity of being a lying moron. 1.00

00:07:26.720 I'm not saying that he is. 1.00

00:07:28.100 No, no, no.

00:07:28.480 I wouldn't ever say that. 1.00

00:07:30.100 I'm saying that he's, he just, you know, lying morons are right here, and he's kind of walking alongside them adjacent, you see. 0.98

00:07:38.840 And they, they, like, go to the same school, and a lot of times they end up wearing the same shirts accidentally, and they hang out after class, you know. 0.99

00:07:49.040 But I'm not saying he's a lying moron. 0.93

00:07:51.020 He's just, he's always so adjacent, very much adjacent with that group is what I'm trying to say. 0.99

00:07:56.760 And then there's the next part, which is calling us an alt-right outpost.

00:08:03.580 Now, this is great, of course, because there is no conservative site on the entire internet that the alt-right hates more than the Daily Wire.

00:08:14.100 And if you don't believe me, you could just ask them or go to one of their, go to one of their corners, one of their dark and, and, and grimy corners of the internet and see what they have to say about the Daily Wire and the people who work for it.

00:08:29.460 And there's also no person in the media who's been targeted by the alt-right more than, than Ben Shapiro.

00:08:35.640 The rest of also, the rest of us have also gotten it, not, not quite as bad as he has, but, but still, we've, we've, we've gotten our share of that treatment.

00:08:44.540 The alt-right has gone after me many times.

00:08:46.260 I spent like three days on this show a few months ago, screaming about one of them, which was probably not a great use of my time or yours.

00:08:53.500 But, uh, the point is, you know, we're not exactly on friendly terms.

00:08:57.080 Um, and calling the Daily Wire of all websites alt-right, that's like, well, it's like calling an Orthodox Jew white supremacist or, excuse me, white supremacist adjacent.

00:09:09.260 But this is the way it always goes.

00:09:11.720 This is the tactic.

00:09:13.760 Just throw a label at your opponents, right?

00:09:16.340 If you don't like someone, if you don't agree with them, label them.

00:09:20.280 Doesn't matter if the label is true.

00:09:22.560 Doesn't matter if it makes sense.

00:09:24.940 Doesn't matter if it's coherent.

00:09:27.760 It doesn't have to be any of those things.

00:09:29.440 Just, all you need is the label.

00:09:30.660 And the problem with this strategy, uh, one of the many problems, aside from the fact that it's dishonest and unethical and cowardly and all of that, um, one of the other significant problems is that what happens is the labels rapidly lose their meaning.

00:09:50.880 Now, a term like white supremacist, look at what, um, the media has done with a term like white supremacist.

00:10:00.660 That term does mean something, or at least it should.

00:10:05.000 And there are actual white supremacists out there.

00:10:07.880 I know because I've, I have, I have the hate mail from these people.

00:10:11.020 I know that they're there.

00:10:12.580 I don't know how many people, how many of them are.

00:10:14.660 I think, I think that they are a fringe, I'm certain they're a fringe group, um, but they do exist.

00:10:20.680 But when you call everybody a white supremacist, um, when that term comes to mean just, you know, people I don't like, then the label has lost its purpose and its meaning.

00:10:35.660 And that becomes very difficult when it's, when it comes time to talk about actual white supremacists.

00:10:43.920 See, when you call everyone a white supremacist, then what are you going to say when you actually encounter a real white supremacist?

00:10:51.120 Well, you're going to call them a white supremacist, but nobody knows anymore.

00:10:53.900 So, uh, we're at a point now where if someone calls someone else a white supremacist, uh, the rest of us that are hearing this, we have no idea what that means.

00:11:08.500 We should know what it means.

00:11:11.060 You know, if you go and say such and such is a white supremacist, everyone that hears you should know, okay, well, I know what I need to know about that person.

00:11:18.660 But we don't know anymore, okay, um, you know, it, it could mean that the person you're referring to is an actual racist who believes in the supremacy of the white race. 0.66

00:11:30.760 So the white supremacist is.

00:11:32.740 And so you could be telling us that that's, you know, that, that describes the person you're, you're talking about.

00:11:39.600 Um, or, but you could also simply be saying you don't like the person,

00:11:45.240 even though the person has never said anything remotely racist, you just don't like them.

00:11:50.420 And so this is what you're saying.

00:11:51.480 And, and, and we don't know is the problem could go either way.

00:11:57.140 Um, which I don't think I have to spell this out, but what happens is it provides cover to actual racists and white supremacists.

00:12:07.940 You have, you have lumped them in with millions of people who are not racist and white supremacists.

00:12:17.960 And so they're able to kind of hide, you know, they're, they become, you have turned them into a sort of needle in a haystack.

00:12:29.160 Um, when it doesn't, it shouldn't be that way and it doesn't need to be that way.

00:12:33.560 Now it gets better because after people like myself and Ben and, uh, Michael pointed out all of this to the Boston Globe,

00:12:43.280 they issued a correction the next day.

00:12:45.120 And their correction says, uh, because of a reporting error, the large column in today's art section,

00:12:51.540 which is printed in advance, mischaracterizes the conservative media outlet, the Daily Wire.

00:12:56.020 Its founder, Ben Shapiro has spoken out against the alt-right.

00:12:59.080 The Globe regrets the error.

00:13:00.180 Now, a couple of problems with this correction.

00:13:04.160 Um, first of all, it wasn't a reporting error.

00:13:07.540 That makes it sound like, oh, it's silly us.

00:13:09.560 We didn't mean to, sorry, just kind of a typo.

00:13:12.700 Uh, no, that was a deliberate, intentional lie and a smear.

00:13:16.820 That's what that was.

00:13:17.720 It wasn't a reporting error.

00:13:18.800 It was a deliberate, it was, it was a smear is what it was.

00:13:21.900 Um, and also Ben Shapiro has spoken out against the alt-right.

00:13:26.080 That way, way understates it.

00:13:27.780 Ben Shapiro has dedicated much of his time to going after the alt-right, just like everyone

00:13:35.120 else at the site has done as well.

00:13:37.700 Um, so it understates it, but the, the, the, the real problem is they say they regret the

00:13:43.560 error.

00:13:43.980 Okay.

00:13:44.280 What did they do about the article?

00:13:45.700 Did they take it down?

00:13:47.920 No.

00:13:48.320 Well, did they at least chain, delete the smear against the daily wire and take out that

00:13:53.380 whole part?

00:13:55.120 No, they didn't do that.

00:13:56.400 Instead, they, they went back and they changed it.

00:13:59.120 Um, and instead of saying white supremacist alt-right outpost, now it says routinely bigoted

00:14:05.960 outpost.

00:14:06.680 Of course, uh, we're back to the same problem.

00:14:15.600 They didn't provide any evidence of that.

00:14:17.780 They didn't provide any examples of anything that any of us have said that's bigoted.

00:14:24.120 They just throw it out there.

00:14:25.200 But the thing that I like about this, um, and you know, you can kind of laugh about it

00:14:30.400 because no one takes the, the, the, the Boston Globe seriously anyway.

00:14:33.720 Um, but the thing that I like about it is you, you can see just how meaningless these labels

00:14:41.220 are when they're used by the media, because we can see in real time as they're just cycling

00:14:48.440 through one label after the other, they put one label on and everyone says, oh, that's not

00:14:52.880 right.

00:14:53.120 And then, and then the Boston Globe says, okay, well, we'll go with this one instead

00:14:55.520 then.

00:14:55.980 Yeah, no, that's not true.

00:14:56.760 Okay.

00:14:57.000 Well, how about this one?

00:14:58.620 They've got this just carousel of slurs, this carousel of, of, of labels that they'll,

00:15:04.280 you know, they're going to rotate.

00:15:05.300 They're going to put, they're going to put one on you.

00:15:06.500 It doesn't matter.

00:15:07.400 It doesn't matter if it's accurate or not.

00:15:08.720 They're just going to put it there.

00:15:11.980 You take issue with one, they'll just replace it with something else.

00:15:14.800 It's like Mad Libs.

00:15:19.220 Just absolute, an absolute joke is what it is.

00:15:24.080 Okay.

00:15:24.480 This was kind of funny, by the way.

00:15:26.120 Here's a video from the Sanders campaign.

00:15:29.440 It's Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez talking about Bernie Sanders in very glowing terms.

00:15:35.720 It wasn't until I heard of a man by the name of Bernie Sanders that I began to question

00:15:46.880 and assert and recognize my inherent value as a human being that deserves healthcare, housing,

00:15:57.660 education, and a living wage.

00:16:00.360 Now, now, okay, wait a second.

00:16:08.180 You didn't think you had inherent value as a human being until you heard Bernie Sanders?

00:16:15.640 Really?

00:16:16.240 That is, that is the saddest thing I've ever heard.

00:16:21.520 I really might start weeping over it.

00:16:23.580 That's, I, I mean, I was at the gas station a few days ago and I saw someone in the back of the gas station

00:16:30.800 playing a slot machine video game.

00:16:34.320 And I thought that was the saddest thing I'd ever seen until I saw this video because this might actually beat it.

00:16:41.160 Listen, if you're learning anything at all about life or yourself from a politician,

00:16:47.160 that, that's a very bad sign.

00:16:50.500 And it also makes me question your fitness for office.

00:16:53.000 AOC is a member of Congress, but she only discovered that she's human when she heard Bernie Sanders.

00:16:58.880 Well, when was that?

00:17:00.100 I think we, I think that's a fair question.

00:17:01.860 Now, granted, Sanders has been in office since the first Continental Congress.

00:17:05.040 So who knows when she first heard Bernie Sanders speak.

00:17:08.560 But, um, I, I'm wondering when it was that AOC had this Bernie induced revelation.

00:17:17.800 I think we need to know that.

00:17:20.360 Also, what did she think before she heard Bernie Sanders?

00:17:25.300 Did she think that she had no value as a person?

00:17:28.640 So she thought she had no value as a person.

00:17:31.340 She heard, she, she, she turned on the TV, saw Bernie Sanders waving his hands wildly and screaming about millionaires and billionaires.

00:17:37.660 And that's when she had this Eureka moment and said, oh, wow, I think I do have value.

00:17:46.340 That's very, very strange and very sad.

00:17:50.720 And it's also this cult of personality.

00:17:54.080 I talk about it all the time, this cult of personality around politicians. 0.99

00:17:58.740 It's always sad and pathetic and un-American. 0.98

00:18:03.320 And you don't just see it on the left. 0.99

00:18:05.240 There's a cult of personality around Donald Trump.

00:18:07.660 You got a cult of personality around Bernie Sanders.

00:18:10.400 There's a cult of personality around Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez herself. 1.00

00:18:15.080 So, you know, she's in the Bernie Sanders cult, but she's got her own sort of splinter cult going on. 0.96

00:18:21.460 All of this is, is just way off base.

00:18:25.120 Okay.

00:18:25.640 Politicians are politicians.

00:18:27.340 They're not, they're not spiritual gurus.

00:18:29.720 They're not prophets.

00:18:32.500 You know, they're also not rock stars that we're, that we should be fans of.

00:18:36.260 They're politicians.

00:18:37.360 They're representatives, supposedly, of the people.

00:18:40.280 They are supposedly our employees.

00:18:42.340 They work for us.

00:18:43.120 That's the way it's supposed to be.

00:18:44.680 And I think we would do very well to keep that in mind with how we look at these people and, and talk about them.

00:18:52.300 Okay.

00:18:52.860 Now, let's see, before I get to emails, I wanted to talk about this also.

00:18:58.900 And I don't mean to pick on this person.

00:19:02.360 I don't know who she is and, and it doesn't matter.

00:19:06.260 The person is not the point.

00:19:07.840 It's just the sentiment that I wanted to talk about.

00:19:10.120 So someone on Twitter posted something that I only saw because it was retweeted a bunch of times. 0.55

00:19:16.300 And what the tweet says is, um, y'all really want to get married and have sex with the same person for the rest of your life?

00:19:24.300 Question mark, question mark, question mark, all caps.

00:19:28.160 And for some reason, this got like 10,000, 10,000 likes people.

00:19:32.200 It resonates.

00:19:33.780 I'm, I'm just using this as a jumping off point because this is, well, there's a reason why it's, was a popular tweet that this is a very common objection that you hear all the time.

00:19:43.200 And anecdotally, it seems to me that it's an increasingly popular argument against marriage.

00:19:48.480 Though, of course, it's not at all new, but this is something people have been saying for a long time.

00:19:52.640 Um, so I've been thinking about this after I saw this tweet.

00:19:55.700 Um, and I, I wanted to say something to, to anyone in the audience who might share this point of view about marriage.

00:20:04.520 You know, I don't want to have sex with the same person for the rest of my life, that kind of thing.

00:20:09.140 A few things about that.

00:20:10.360 First of all, yes, if you want to consider marriage in the most pessimistic possible way, if you want to, uh, take the most negative view of it that you could, you might say that marriage means being stuck with the same person forever.

00:20:30.800 Or not just sexually, but in all things, in life in general.

00:20:34.460 Fine.

00:20:34.980 Yeah, you could, you could look at it that way if you want to.

00:20:37.760 But what's the most pessimistic possible way of considering the alternative?

00:20:44.940 I, I, now, as a, as a dyed-in-the-wool pessimist myself, I have no problem.

00:20:50.100 I think, I think it's a good, a good idea before you make any particular big decision.

00:20:54.860 You should think to yourself, what, what is the worst possible way that I could think of this thing?

00:21:02.320 Maybe that's not the, maybe that's not the healthiest way to, to make life choices, but as a pessimist, that's what you do.

00:21:07.940 It's sort of, another way of putting it, it's like, what's the worst case scenario here?

00:21:12.040 You have to at least consider that, right?

00:21:15.900 Well, um, the alternative.

00:21:18.180 What's the worst case scenario?

00:21:19.560 What's the, what's the most negative view of that?

00:21:21.600 Someone who's concerned about having sex with the same person for the rest of their life,

00:21:24.540 and so therefore avoids marriage.

00:21:26.680 What's the negative view of that choice?

00:21:29.600 Well, the negative view is that you're going to end up having a series of meaningless encounters with strangers

00:21:34.460 who don't love you or care about you until eventually you get too old for that,

00:21:38.320 and you don't have the same looks that you did when you were younger,

00:21:40.320 and you're not desirable in the same way that you were before to strangers.

00:21:43.300 And now all of your peers are spending their free time going to the playground with their grandchildren

00:21:47.720 while you're alone and pitied by everyone who knows you.

00:21:50.620 And then you die, and there's no one to mourn you,

00:21:52.540 and you leave no legacy behind or even any trace that you ever existed at all.

00:21:56.380 So I guess you have to decide.

00:21:59.120 Between those two options, which one sounds worse?

00:22:04.740 And another thing, and I've noticed this.

00:22:10.380 I was thinking about this this morning, because it's kind of strange.

00:22:14.460 When I talk to people who don't want to get married,

00:22:18.020 the first thing they often say is something like this,

00:22:21.480 about how they don't want to have sex with the same person,

00:22:23.780 or they don't want to be stuck with the same person for their whole life and all that.

00:22:28.060 But, and they're concerned about how tedious and boring and monotonous that will be.

00:22:34.660 But then the next thing they say, or the second most common objection to marriage that I hear,

00:22:39.980 is that after you get married, you never know how much the other person is going to change,

00:22:45.060 or in what way they might change.

00:22:46.780 And so it's too much of a risk to tie yourself to them.

00:22:49.160 So you notice the paradox here, I'm sure.

00:22:52.940 On one hand, they're worried that there won't be any change.

00:22:57.520 And on the other hand, they're worried that there will be too much change.

00:23:03.060 On one hand, marriage is too safe and too boring.

00:23:06.620 On the other hand, it's too much of a risk.

00:23:09.280 So you see how those two things don't quite match up.

00:23:13.920 Now, again, if you're committed to the pessimistic interpretation,

00:23:16.480 you might say that, well, that's because marriage is the worst of both worlds.

00:23:21.260 But I don't think that's true.

00:23:23.440 I think that these two competing objections just speak to the fact that marriage is,

00:23:27.980 first of all, dynamic and unpredictable and very human.

00:23:33.020 You know, there's two human beings involved in this thing.

00:23:35.920 And on the positive end, the point is that,

00:23:38.760 yes, you're committing yourself to one person.

00:23:40.800 But a person is a fascinating and compelling thing.

00:23:48.580 I think a person is way more interesting than people.

00:23:53.620 So when you're just out doing the random hookup thing,

00:23:56.780 all you have are people.

00:23:59.080 You have this kind of general, vague, collective mass,

00:24:03.720 and you're working your way through the crowd.

00:24:06.880 Everyone is faceless.

00:24:07.980 Everyone is basically nameless.

00:24:09.200 You forget about them in two days.

00:24:12.060 That's people.

00:24:14.020 But in a marriage, you get a person. 0.85

00:24:17.160 Not people.

00:24:17.960 You get a person.

00:24:18.920 A real, living, breathing, human person.

00:24:21.980 Somebody with a name and a face and a personality

00:24:24.340 and hopes and dreams and goals and flaws and foibles and virtues

00:24:27.580 and strengths and weaknesses and pet peeves and idiosyncrasies and all of it.

00:24:32.660 You get all of that.

00:24:34.280 And you're with that person as they grow and change and develop.

00:24:37.360 And maybe not all the changes are favorable from your point of view.

00:24:41.100 And obviously, sometimes things will go horribly wrong and everything falls apart.

00:24:45.140 But no matter what your life choice is, things can always go horribly wrong and fall apart.

00:24:49.120 So that's no different.

00:24:51.000 The goal, though, of marriage is to be with this person and to grow alongside them.

00:24:59.420 And I think that that can be a very exciting thing.

00:25:05.480 So where if you're looking for the pessimistic view, you say it's the worst of both worlds.

00:25:08.600 Another way of looking at it is it's the best of both worlds.

00:25:12.120 Where you do get the change and the differences and the variety.

00:25:15.880 But you get it with one person.

00:25:19.900 So at the same time, you get that commitment and the love and the experience of being really known by another human being.

00:25:30.580 Which I think is an experience that we all deeply need.

00:25:33.900 And I guess as human beings, we can never be completely known by anyone on Earth because they can't read our minds.

00:25:44.540 But in marriage, you can, you know, not just in a physical sense, but you can intimately know another person.

00:25:51.740 And that's what you get from marriage, along with the variety of the fact that the person does change and grow and everything else.

00:25:57.920 And this is, I also say this about, I say this all the time when we talk about, should you get married younger or not?

00:26:10.400 And, you know, I understand the logic of waiting until you're older and you're more established in life and all that kind of stuff.

00:26:16.940 And if you're already a little bit older and you haven't gotten married yet, then that's fine.

00:26:20.660 You can still get married and have a wonderful marriage.

00:26:22.880 But if you are younger and you're trying to decide, I think there's a lot to be said for getting married younger because this is what I'm talking about.

00:26:32.520 You grow and live alongside the other person where marriage, rather than being the capstone of adulthood, it's the cornerstone, it's the foundation.

00:26:42.060 And you build from there and you're with this person and you're both growing and maturing.

00:26:45.820 So, you know, I got married when I was 25.

00:26:52.100 My wife was 24. 0.70

00:26:54.440 Obviously, when we got married, we didn't have kids.

00:26:56.420 We were just, you know, as far as I'm concerned, we were basically kids ourselves.

00:27:00.540 So on one hand, I could say, yes, I've been married to the same person for eight years.

00:27:04.740 But, you know, especially when you get married younger, it's it it technically is the same person.

00:27:11.580 But but we we've changed so much through the process of growing and living that it's that, you know, it kind of can be deceptive to put it that way.

00:27:22.540 So just just something to consider.

00:27:25.960 I think marriage is great.

00:27:27.520 Marriage and family.

00:27:28.480 Maybe not, you know, not not every life choice is for everybody.

00:27:35.640 There are exceptions, of course.

00:27:39.120 And there are people who are called to different ways of living.

00:27:43.520 But I think there are a lot of people who are called to marriage, but don't do it because they're afraid for these two reasons or other reasons as well.

00:27:53.560 And I think that that's a big mistake.

00:27:55.160 All right.

00:27:55.340 Going to emails, mattwalshow at gmail dot com.

00:27:58.480 Matt Walshow at gmail dot com.

00:27:59.660 This is from Colin says, future Supreme Overlord, I am bothered by how soon Christmas commercials are being played.

00:28:06.960 As soon as Halloween, Halloween is over, the Christmas commercials start playing.

00:28:10.820 Is it not more reasonable to begin commercials after Thanksgiving or December 1st?

00:28:15.000 As dictator, will you enforce a limitation on when Christmas commercials can begin playing?

00:28:20.040 Your humble servant and soon to be executed subject, Colin.

00:28:24.740 No, in fact, if anything, I'll go the other way.

00:28:27.140 And certainly the harsh penalties will not go to the stores that play Christmas music early or people who put up Christmas lights early.

00:28:35.900 No, the harsh penalty goes to the people, the un-American, joy-hating people who complain about that.

00:28:45.820 I am a big believer in, look, I mean, if you want to start playing the Christmas music in July, go ahead.

00:28:52.200 Who can, I don't even, I don't understand the complaint.

00:28:54.780 You hear Christmas music when you're out shopping and it's not December yet and you get angry about it.

00:29:01.820 Now, I get angry about a lot of things.

00:29:03.940 I basically get angry professionally.

00:29:06.020 It's basically my job.

00:29:07.240 And even I can't figure out how to get angry about that.

00:29:09.600 I cannot figure out how to get angry when I hear Hark the Herald Angels sing.

00:29:15.340 How could you get mad about that?

00:29:17.100 I don't even understand it.

00:29:18.520 So anytime I hear Christmas music, even as a Scrooge myself, it warms my heart.

00:29:25.980 It warms my cold, dead heart.

00:29:28.040 And I feel something approaching joy.

00:29:31.440 And it doesn't matter what time of year it is.

00:29:33.780 So I, you know what, just, Colin, how dare you?

00:29:39.260 From Mark, this says, hi, Matt, I can't stand all these people that rejoice over their extra hour of sleep.

00:29:45.620 They obviously don't have young children.

00:29:47.280 The end of daylight savings time means parents have an extra hour of parenting.

00:29:51.260 Then to get your kids back on a normal schedule, you keep them up until their normal bedtime and the final hour is full of meltdowns. 0.98

00:29:58.000 Once your rule commences, will you end daylight saving times and abolish all the gloating, well-rested jerks? 0.99

00:30:04.280 Thanks for the great show. 0.98

00:30:05.400 Prayers for you and your family.

00:30:06.160 And yes, this is, this is something I, and I have this experience every year.

00:30:09.940 I think all parents do.

00:30:11.280 And I had it on Saturday where I thought, oh, you know, it's daily savings times.

00:30:17.500 I get an, I get an extra hour of sleep.

00:30:19.820 And then you look around and see all the kids running around your house.

00:30:22.580 And you remember that, oh yeah, I'm a parent.

00:30:24.380 Nevermind.

00:30:25.540 All this means is that rather than my kids being up at 6 a.m., now they're going to be up at 5 a.m.

00:30:29.500 That's, that's all this means.

00:30:30.520 Um, now as, as dictator, of course, I, first of all, I can force people to get up with my kids and watch them.

00:30:38.740 So that would be my first move.

00:30:40.240 I don't, I don't, so I don't really have to worry about that as, as a dictator.

00:30:43.020 Um, and, uh, and I would certainly have people, you know, I would have people taking care of the kids in the morning and at night and overnight and during the day.

00:30:51.780 And my job is just to pop in every once in a while, you know, um, that's real parenting for you.

00:30:58.620 That's how you really parent.

00:30:59.580 As far as daily savings time, you know, taking the parent issue aside, this is another thing.

00:31:07.240 People complain about daily savings time, just like they complain about Christmas music too early.

00:31:10.700 I don't, with the daily savings times, except for the parent complaint, which is a legitimate complaint.

00:31:15.340 Aside from that, I don't really understand the problem with it.

00:31:19.300 I kind of like it.

00:31:20.600 And in fact, the, the fact that it's so weird and pointless and arbitrary that we just arbitrarily pretend to move the time forward and back, uh, I kind of like it.

00:31:34.140 Imagine aliens landing on earth sometime in the future and finding out about daylight savings time and us trying to explain it to them.

00:31:43.600 Where we say that, oh yeah, it's just, you know, we pretend that the clock is, we just, we move the, we move the time, time back and forth randomly just because, and they would have absolutely no idea the point of that or why we do it.

00:31:56.540 And we have no idea why we do it either, but we just do.

00:32:00.140 And that's what I like about it.

00:32:01.000 It's kind of quirky and weird and it's just something we do.

00:32:04.160 And I, I, I say I'm a, I'm a traditionalist and I believe in, you know, just sticking with the tradition for no reason.

00:32:11.760 That's why I like it from David says, uh, hello, Matt, hope all is well.

00:32:17.260 And that the new baby is doing great.

00:32:18.900 Yesterday you were talking about the topic of criminalization of assisted suicide.

00:32:22.040 I believe the government shouldn't criminalize it because that would allow them the option to remove freedom from people because the government deems it to be for the good of the person, which then, which then allows the government to also do it for other actions they don't want people doing because the government sees us as not, is it not being for their good.

00:32:39.640 That doesn't mean I don't think doctors and others shouldn't try to help these people to go on living, but said help should not be forced on these people, nor should that remove their freedom.

00:32:47.880 The government will always be able to justify any removal of right as being for the good of the person.

00:32:53.560 So I side with people keeping their freedom, even if I don't, even if, even if it's not for their own good, we shouldn't encourage suicidal people, but if they do decide they don't want to help, they don't want help at that point, they should be able to seek the end they want.

00:33:06.660 Unfortunate as it is, if people decide so that what, what worries me is the government deciding for them and arbitrarily removing their rights in the process.

00:33:15.260 Would you trust the government to know better for the person than the person for themselves, does for themselves, and allow the government to, the power to remove the rights of the person as such?

00:33:24.560 Well, first of all, okay, a couple things here.

00:33:30.020 As far as knowing, you know, knowing better for the, knowing what's best for the person or having a better idea of what's, what's good for a person than they do themselves.

00:33:40.640 Um, you know, if, if you were walking down the road and you looked up and saw someone standing at the edge of a building, like they're about to jump.

00:33:50.740 I'm sure you would shout to them and say, no, don't do it. And you would try to stop them. Right. Uh, you would never say, no, he probably knows what's best for him and just keep walking.

00:34:02.620 So, in, in some situations, it actually is clear that someone doesn't know what's best for them and they do need someone to step in and kind of force the issue, force them to do what's best for them.

00:34:16.480 It can never be best for you to jump off a building or to intentionally poison yourself.

00:34:21.640 That could never be the best thing for you. How could it be? Because it's, you're abolishing yourself. You're getting rid of your, it's the, it's the end of yourself.

00:34:30.660 How could ending yourself be the best for yourself? It doesn't even make any sense.

00:34:37.160 Um, so, and, and I think on a, so now let's, you could say, well, that's okay, but these are, I'm a free, I'm an individual person and this is a, you know, I'm not an agent of the government.

00:34:51.100 Okay. Well, um, you see the person standing on the edge of the building. They're going to jump. Do you call the police?

00:35:01.600 I think because you're a decent, compassionate person, you call the police. I would.

00:35:06.320 Well, the police are agents of the government. And what do you want the police to do? You want the police to stop them from jumping.

00:35:13.160 If a police officer, in fact, I saw, uh, there was a video that was making the rounds on online a few months ago that I happened to see of a, of a, someone that was about to jump off a bridge might've been the golden gate bridge.

00:35:25.960 I don't know. Um, somebody was about to jump off a bridge and a police officer stopped his car, ran up and grabbed the person at the last minute and dragged him back from the, from the edge.

00:35:34.660 And everyone is hailing this police officer as a hero for good reason. I think he is a hero, but would you say that that police officer did the wrong thing?

00:35:43.660 You know, this was a person making a choice for themselves. Here was an agent of the state preventing them from making that choice.

00:35:57.440 I, the interesting thing to me is that it seems like almost everybody would agree that the police officer did the right thing.

00:36:05.440 Yet many of those people who agree the police officer did the right thing still think that assisted suicide should be legal on the basis that the government shouldn't prevent people from killing themselves.

00:36:17.200 So it just, it, there's, you see the disconnect there.

00:36:21.380 If you, if you think it would be cruel and, and negligent in the extreme for the police officer to just sit back and watch the guy jump.

00:36:31.820 If you think that would be cruel and negligent, then how is it not also cruel and negligent for the government to, uh, not just allow people to kill themselves, but to legalize a, a, a method for which they can go through to, to kill themselves.

00:36:49.740 I just, I don't see. It seems to me that if one, you know, if the state is right in the one hand, then they'd be right on the other hand of, of, um, you know, making assisted suicide illegal.

00:37:00.980 So that, that's the first thing. Second thing with assisted suicide, we're talking about assisted suicide.

00:37:10.880 We're not talking about someone just, uh, taking their own life as the saying goes, you know, the, the, there might, there are some States maybe where it's technically illegal to commit suicide.

00:37:24.220 But of course the, you know, the reality there is if someone succeeds in doing it, then it's the, the, the law was sort of a moot point.

00:37:33.280 And of course, if somebody really wants to commit suicide, um, if they really want to, there's nothing the state can do to stop them.

00:37:40.460 Um, um, short of, if, if you know about it ahead of time and they're, you know, putting a admitted into a psychiatric facility or something like that, then short of that, uh, there's nothing that the state can do.

00:37:54.260 So, but what we're talking about here is getting a third party involved.

00:38:02.180 So it's not really a question of, should a person have the right to kill themselves?

00:38:07.360 It's, should the third party have a right to help kill someone?

00:38:15.640 And to that, I would say no.

00:38:20.400 Um, so I'm, it's, it's on two levels here.

00:38:24.640 On one level, I do think the state has a role in preventing people from killing themselves.

00:38:28.920 And as I already described, I think you probably agree, at least in some circumstances.

00:38:33.100 And if you agree in some circumstances, then why not in every circumstance?

00:38:39.480 But we can even put that argument to the side because that's not even really what we're talking about here.

00:38:43.820 We're talking about a third party coming in and it just so happens to be a doctor.

00:38:47.360 It happens to be a representative of the medical community coming in and poisoning someone.

00:38:55.080 So you don't even have to think of it as, um, does this individual have the right to kill themselves?

00:39:01.820 The question is, does that doctor have the right to go and poison somebody, whether they want it or not?

00:39:10.740 And my thing is that, uh, they should not have the, that third party should not have that right.

00:39:19.140 It should be illegal for a doctor to intentionally and directly kill someone.

00:39:25.240 Uh, there's no downside to, I should say, there's no downside to a law that says it's illegal for a doctor to intentionally and directly kill someone.

00:39:44.840 I think there are a lot of downsides to opening that door and saying, well, maybe sometimes they can.

00:39:54.720 And, you know, I, I don't think I need to describe where the slippery slope leads and we're already seeing the slippery slope when doctors get into the business of killing.

00:40:02.720 What is the slippery slope, uh, uh, uh, if we just said doctors can't kill people, what's the slippery slope, uh, scenario for that?

00:40:13.500 What's, what's the dystopian vision of a world where no doctors are killing people?

00:40:18.400 I, I just seen absolutely no downside to that.

00:40:24.320 Whereas there is nothing but downside to the alternative.

00:40:29.140 Okay.

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