The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 364 - The Epstein Cover Up

00:00:00.000 Well, I was pretty fascinated by this. The New York Times ran an editorial yesterday.

00:00:04.700 Take a look at this headline. It says, wear clothes, then you're part of the problem.

00:00:10.620 You know, I have to say, I was pretty shocked that the Times is now running Katie Hill's internal staff memos as an editorial.

00:00:17.980 I didn't expect that. I mean, hasn't this woman suffered enough? Just leave her alone, for God's sake. 1.00

00:00:22.140 She's the victim in this, remember? But actually, no, this isn't, if you look closer, this isn't from Katie Hill, surprisingly enough.

00:00:29.160 This is an environmentalist thing. This is the Times arguing that you're killing the environment by wearing clothing.

00:00:37.240 And they're not just referring to people like myself who go and kill baby polar bears to harvest their fur for slippers,

00:00:44.520 which is a completely legitimate hobby, by the way, but frowned upon these days.

00:00:50.540 No, they're saying that if you wear any clothing at all, you're killing the planet.

00:00:53.700 So, of course, if the choice is between killing the planet or having to look at everybody naked,

00:01:00.780 probably the former would be the wiser choice. Have you seen people recently?

00:01:07.860 But really, think about what the environmentalists want from us now.

00:01:12.480 OK, they want us not driving, not taking airplanes, not using electricity, eating bugs, going around naked.

00:01:21.120 And they wonder why their message isn't resonating. It's a mystery. It's a real mystery,

00:01:25.180 because it should be so viscerally appealing, this idea that we can live.

00:01:29.200 They're inviting us to live like it's the year 200,000 B.C.

00:01:33.380 Who wouldn't want that? Run around naked, eat bugs, eat worms and beetles,

00:01:37.680 die from a tooth infection when you're 37. It's a great life, a short life, but a great life.

00:01:42.480 But for some reason, people aren't into it. I just I can't quite figure that out.

00:01:46.920 OK, today we're going to talk about we got a bunch to talk about today,

00:01:49.500 including a big bombshell from Project Veritas and James O'Keefe.

00:01:54.100 This one is a this is a literal bombshell. Well, not a literal bombshell.

00:01:57.240 That's that's that would be not safe. But this is a big story.

00:02:00.980 We're going to talk about that. Also, remember the if you remember that reporter who dug up dirt

00:02:05.580 on the guy who was doing charity work for kids, Carson King and the reporter tried to cancel him

00:02:12.540 based on the old tweets that he had written. But then the reporter ended up getting canceled

00:02:17.380 instead. Remember that? Well, he's speaking out now. And and he wrote an article and has revealed

00:02:23.980 that apparently he hasn't learned a damn thing, surprisingly. And a prominent abortionist

00:02:30.200 celebrates his birthday in an appropriately disturbing way. But I also have a clip from

00:02:36.200 this abortionist. That completely decimates pretty much every pro-abortion talking point.

00:02:43.240 And I want to play that for you today. But first, a word from Lightstream. You know,

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00:03:55.020 Walsh. OK, so, you know, sometimes you hear people hyping up bombshells and then the bomb goes off and

00:04:02.980 it's more of a firecracker, really, at best. This one, though, this one, I think, is really

00:04:08.560 big. James O'Keefe and Project Veritas. They have footage of ABC anchor Amy Robach.

00:04:14.820 And this is about as damning as it can possibly get for a news organization. Listen to this.

00:04:22.840 She told me everything. She had pictures. She had everything. She was in hiding for 12 years. We

00:04:27.440 convinced her to come out. We convinced her to talk to us. It was unbelievable what we had. Clinton,

00:04:33.380 we had everything. I tried for three years to get it on to no avail. And now it's all coming out. And

00:04:41.040 it's like these new revelations. And I freaking had all of it. I'm so pissed right now. Like every

00:04:47.960 day I get more and more pissed because I'm just like, oh, my God, we it was what we had was unreal.

00:04:54.360 So that that is is damning on a number of levels for ABC. So you have you have corruption and you

00:05:03.420 have incompetence. That's being revealed here here by by the anchor, the anchor who, you know,

00:05:11.440 you want to give her credit because, according to her anyway, she she wanted to get this story up

00:05:16.220 and she was trying to push the story. But at the same time, it's clear from the clip I just played

00:05:21.380 there that her main concern, the main thing she's upset about is that she didn't get credit for the

00:05:27.280 story. I think anyone it's it's OK to be upset about that. I think anyone would be. I mean,

00:05:35.720 anyone would feel that way to a certain extent. You feel like you had a big story that your bosses

00:05:39.840 wouldn't let you go with and someone else gets the story. But it is disturbing that you don't see

00:05:44.280 quite the concern for the victims that you would hope to see. But that's not really the point here.

00:05:48.660 The point is what it reveals about ABC. So first, you've got the fact that they didn't recognize

00:05:58.620 according to her, they didn't recognize the Epstein story as a big story. At first, they said,

00:06:05.100 who's Epstein? Nobody cares. And this was what, three years ago? I mean, three years ago, I knew

00:06:10.840 that Epstein was a big story. Most of us knew that Epstein was a big story. They didn't realize that.

00:06:14.340 And then you've got the corruption of as they start to see that it's a big story and they see

00:06:19.860 the powerful people are implicated. They decide not to run it because of that, because they're

00:06:24.320 worried about the repercussions. And I mean, we can only expect what she says that the palace

00:06:30.440 got involved. And so they were worried about whatever repercussions would come from that.

00:06:35.820 And she says they had Clinton. Everybody was in it. So I think we can assume that there was also the

00:06:40.840 political angle of ABC not wanting to take down a Democrat. This is, there really is no coming back

00:06:48.400 from something like this, given the source. And, you know, it would have been very courageous of the

00:06:55.580 anchor if she had come out sometime in the last three years and actually exposed this and said,

00:07:00.880 hey, I've had this story. ABC won't let me run it. Well, here's the story. That would have been great.

00:07:05.380 She didn't do it. Didn't have the guts for that. But in some ways, now that we get the,

00:07:10.240 now that we hear this allegation, the way that we do, it's much more, it's more powerful than if

00:07:15.000 she had come out and said it. Because then you could always accuse her of lying and so on.

00:07:20.460 But the fact that we get this allegation and she didn't know that this, you know, she was just

00:07:25.720 talking to whoever she was talking to. She thought it was private. She didn't know it was going to get

00:07:28.640 out there. That makes it very powerful and compelling. And there's nothing that ABC can,

00:07:35.720 I'm sure they'll think of something, but there's really no coming back from this or there's really

00:07:40.160 no way to salvage your reputation, whatever reputation that they had, which wasn't much to

00:07:44.180 begin with. This is why, you know, I sound like a broken record. All of conservatives and media sound

00:07:50.900 like a broken record saying this, but this is why people hate the media. If you're in the media,

00:07:57.820 and you feel very persecuted and put upon because people like Donald Trump call you the enemy of

00:08:06.360 the people, why do you think that resonates so much? I mean, you could sit there and with your

00:08:14.520 martyr complex and say, everybody hates us. I don't know why. Or you can consider what, what have we

00:08:21.120 done that would make people hate us so much? Why is it so popular when, when, uh, when Donald Trump

00:08:30.920 launches into his anti-media thing? Why is that always such a hit? It could be that everyone is

00:08:37.700 evil and they're out to get you and you're perfect. It could be that, uh, or it could be stuff like this

00:08:43.500 because although this is a bombshell and it's damning, it's also not surprising.

00:08:51.840 Nobody is surprised by that. This is exactly the kind of thing that we assume the media did,

00:08:57.160 that we knew the media did. And this is why we don't like the media because we can't trust it.

00:09:02.660 And if we can't trust you in the news media, then what, what, what purpose do you serve?

00:09:09.380 If you don't have trust, then you have nothing.

00:09:14.320 All right. Speaking of the media, um, you may remember the story of Aaron Calvin.

00:09:21.360 Well, you probably don't actually, because nobody remembers anything for more than 35 minutes,

00:09:24.820 but Aaron Calvin was that reporter over at the Des Moines Register who wrote a profile on Carson

00:09:31.080 King. That's the local hero who raised a bunch of money for, uh, for sick kids. Well,

00:09:35.380 originally he raised money for himself for beer money. And then he said, you know what, actually

00:09:39.420 we'll, well, I'll give it to kids instead. And, uh, in the profile that, that Aaron Calvin did,

00:09:46.800 you may recall, it included some information about offensive tweets that King had sent like a decade ago.

00:09:54.260 And King was forced to publicly apologize, but then a huge backlash blew up against the reporter

00:09:59.880 and the Des Moines Register for publishing irrelevant dirt on this guy. Who's only famous

00:10:04.560 for writing a funny sign and then raising money for, for kids. Somebody dug through Calvin's,

00:10:12.580 um, so then someone, other people dug through Calvin's own Twitter history and found a bunch of

00:10:19.780 offensive tweets of his and he was fired. Okay. So that's the, that's the review of that story.

00:10:24.540 Well, now he's back several weeks later with an article in the, uh, Columbia journalism review

00:10:30.680 reflecting on his experiences. And, uh, here's the big shocker here. He still hasn't learned anything.

00:10:38.460 He basically stands by the decision to publish this stuff about Carson King, about his, about his, uh,

00:10:44.900 tweets. Um, he still hasn't had the epiphany that cancel culture is bad. He's still refusing to

00:10:52.720 acknowledge that this is a problem in our society. Um, this thing of digging up dirt on people and

00:10:58.720 trying to destroy them randomly for no discernible reason. Now, a couple of, uh, of, of things here.

00:11:05.420 First of all, it, it seems like Calvin, the reporter at the Des Moines Register is the only guy who was

00:11:14.920 fired. And, uh, he seems a little bit salty about that. I don't blame him for that. I think that's wrong

00:11:21.000 because it sounds like his editor, or at least he claims that his editor is the one who told him

00:11:25.520 to go, to do a background check on Carson King. Again, that's a background check on a guy who held

00:11:32.960 a sign and raised money for kids. Let's do a background check on him as if he is applying to,

00:11:38.640 you know, be an FBI agent or something. He says that an editor told him to do it. Um, and then obviously

00:11:45.380 an editor approved the article before it was published. And yet Calvin was the only one who

00:11:53.780 was fired. So I think that's wrong. And he was fired for the wrong reasons too. He was fired because

00:11:59.280 of the tweets that people dug up that he had written years ago when, no, that's that, that wasn't our

00:12:05.540 point. We weren't saying he should be fired for that. What we were saying is he should be fired for

00:12:10.860 writing this incredibly irresponsible profile and, and publishing damaging information about a

00:12:17.420 private citizen for no reason. It doesn't advance the public good. It's not newsworthy. There's no

00:12:25.760 reason to do it. Everyone responsible for that decision should have been fired, but that's not

00:12:29.720 what happened. Also, Calvin said he got a bunch of death threats and so on. And that's, that's obviously

00:12:34.800 wrong. As someone who myself has been the target of that kind of treatment. Um, it, you know, it's,

00:12:40.580 it's hard for someone who's never been targeted by the outrage mob with the death threats and the

00:12:45.840 death wishes and all of that. It's hard to understand how overwhelming and scary that can be. Um,

00:12:50.980 yeah, it's, of course it's scary because you don't, all these people, you don't know who they are,

00:12:54.680 which of them could be crazy and actually be serious about what they're saying. Who knows?

00:12:59.220 Especially when you have a family, but this is exactly my point. This is the kind of situation

00:13:04.540 that the media often puts other people in. So think about the Covington Catholic kids.

00:13:12.940 It's a situation, uh, they, they put those kids in that situation for no reason. It's a situation

00:13:19.380 they could have put Carson King in if the store hadn't story hadn't gone in the, in the other

00:13:23.220 direction. And it ended up flying back in the faces of the Des Moines Register. Um, and yet this

00:13:28.560 is a lesson that Calvin refuses to take from all this. He refuses to take this lesson.

00:13:34.100 Um, in fact, he still denies that cancel culture is even a problem. Here's what he says on that.

00:13:38.240 I just thought this was fascinating after everything he's been through

00:13:40.620 and after everything, everybody was saying, you know, why we object to this here, here's,

00:13:46.960 here's what he said. He said, meanwhile, I lost my job work that I was good at and proud of.

00:13:51.820 My family has deep roots in Iowa and I grew up reading the register. The writer, Jesse Singal,

00:13:57.500 uh, gleefully pointed out on Twitter, the irony of the fact that I had shared a new Republic article

00:14:02.760 on the fallacy of cancel culture before I was fired. He shared an article of fallacy of cancel

00:14:09.040 culture, meaning he shared an article about why the cancel cancel culture doesn't really exist or

00:14:13.300 it's not a problem. Um, and he continues, but I still don't, I still don't believe in the boogeyman

00:14:19.140 of cancel culture. I was not canceled. I was fired. That's an important distinction. I'm far from the

00:14:25.140 first person to be doxxed or to endure an online mob. It's more of a common occurrence and turns more

00:14:29.820 quickly violent for women or writers of color. With the support of my partner and my friends and 0.99

00:14:35.240 family, I was able to avoid collapsing beneath the weight of the great hatred directed toward me.

00:14:39.660 Some of my former colleagues at the register have reached out to communicate their support.

00:14:43.220 Um, blah, blah, blah. The specter of cancel culture is a concept most often invoked to protect those in 0.95

00:14:48.440 power, often straight white men, such as myself from facing consequences for their actions. But I want

00:14:53.920 no part in it. I'm not going to start a YouTube channel railing against the perceived dangers of PC

00:14:58.460 culture. I believe I lost my job unfairly. At the same time, I firmly believe that people,

00:15:03.080 especially those in power should be held accountable for, uh, what they say and what they do.

00:15:09.520 Yes. Except that Carson King is not a person in power. That's the whole point.

00:15:17.860 And you're holding him responsible for some crap that he posted 10 years ago when he was a kid.

00:15:24.360 And this is how it is with the media. They just, they, they can't, they're incapable of learning.

00:15:36.240 And no matter what happens, if they ever suffer any backlash or if they suffer the same kind of

00:15:41.980 treatment that they heap on other people, it never has the effect of making them stop and say,

00:15:49.380 hey, you know, wow, there's never any self-reflection, never any real self-reflection.

00:15:57.140 Whatever happens, it only proves what they already thought. So that's the fascinating thing for Calvin

00:16:02.600 here is that, uh, all, after all of this, it only proved what he already knew to be the case.

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00:17:59.580 Okay. Here's a picture. Um, I think first posted by Abby Johnson, uh, prominent pro-life activist.

00:18:12.080 And, and then it was, uh, and then, and then live action also took it, uh, posted it. So take,

00:18:17.740 take a look here at this picture. They say this is abortionist, uh, slash serial killer, Leroy Carhartt.

00:18:24.460 And if you're in the pro-life movement at all, or if you're familiar with it, then you're familiar

00:18:31.080 with that name, Leroy Carhartt. He's, uh, a, um, one of, you know, he's one of the most prominent

00:18:36.980 abortionists. He's also done thousands of late-term abortions. Well, here he is celebrating his

00:18:41.880 birthday, ironically. Um, and remember, of course, he's killed a lot of babies in his day. That's his

00:18:49.220 specialty. The kind of human he specializes in killing, especially are, are the, uh, you know,

00:18:55.220 late-term babies. But you see that sign on his desk. The sign says, even on my worst day, I'm killing it.

00:19:06.440 Now, I just want to show you that because do you think that's a coincidence? Do you think that's

00:19:14.180 there by accident? Obviously not. This is entirely intentional. And I'll tell you how I know it's

00:19:20.860 intentional. Um, one, because abortionists are sick and evil and deranged people. So you think

00:19:27.300 about those undercover tapes at Planned Parenthood, uh, where, uh, Planned Parenthood officials were

00:19:31.840 joking about killing babies and joking about, hey, if they sell enough dead babies, they can get a

00:19:37.280 Lamborghini. This is very common among abortionists. And in that realm, this kind of quote unquote humor

00:19:43.780 these are really absurdly cartoonishly evil people. Like if, if abortion didn't exist and I wrote a 0.99

00:19:53.120 screenplay with characters like this, with guys like Leroy Carhartt, you would say that it just,

00:19:59.100 it's, it's way too outlandish to be believable. And here's the other thing. Leroy Carhartt,

00:20:04.460 as someone who performs late-term abortions, absolutely knows and acknowledges that he kills 0.61

00:20:11.260 living babies. Um, and I know that he acknowledges that, that he kills babies because he said so

00:20:20.800 himself. And I want to play this for you. This basically got no attention when it first came out,

00:20:24.360 but I think it deserves a lot more attention than that. The BBC did a report on the abortion war in

00:20:29.580 America, as they, as they called it. And as part of that report, they interviewed this guy, Leroy Carhartt.

00:20:35.600 And I want to show you, um, a, just a brief clip of that interview. Listen to this.

00:20:42.240 What counts as a medical need in your view? I mean, if the woman is really stressed about her 1.00

00:20:47.600 pregnancy, how to qualify her? I think it has, it has to get more to the point of depression, 0.91

00:20:51.140 not, not just stress. And it, it fit within my confidence of what we could do safely. I would do

00:20:57.960 that. Right up until when? Late? 38 weeks, 39 weeks? I don't know. That you're not comfortable

00:21:04.980 saying? I'm, no, I'm not going to say that. Yeah. To the fetus, it makes no difference whether it's

00:21:10.060 born or not born. The baby has no input in this as far as I'm concerned. But it's interesting that

00:21:17.380 you use the word baby because a lot of abortionists won't use that. They'll use, they'll use the word

00:21:22.780 fetus because I don't want to acknowledge that there's, that there's a life. I, I, I think that

00:21:27.760 it is a baby and I tell our, I use it with the patients. And you don't have a problem with

00:21:32.300 killing a baby. I have no problem if it's in the mother's uterus. There's just so much in that 1.00

00:21:41.820 one little clip and all of it is utterly devastating to the standard pro-abortion arguments.

00:21:48.760 First of all, he admits, you caught that at the very beginning there. It's just really important.

00:21:56.820 He admits that performing late-term abortions in cases where, you know, he's supposedly doing it

00:22:02.520 for the health and life of the mother. He admits that in many of those cases, it's the medical issue

00:22:09.400 that the mother suffers from is depression. So keep that in mind. Keep that in mind. Whenever someone

00:22:15.440 says, and you hear this all the time, you hear people say that, oh, late-term abortions, that's

00:22:20.200 not even a problem. This is just something that pro-lifers make up or something that anti-choice

00:22:26.560 people make up as, as they would phrase it. Because if you're, if someone's doing a late-term

00:22:31.680 abortion, it's only because the mother's health is seriously in jeopardy and they got to do it to 1.00

00:22:35.640 save her life. Not according to Leroy Carhart, who actually performs the abortions. He's saying

00:22:42.460 that if a mother comes to him and says, I'm depressed about being pregnant, that is a quote 0.99

00:22:48.060 medical reason to get an abortion. Which actually makes a lot of sense. Because this idea that 0.50

00:22:56.760 a person at a late stage of pregnancy could have some sort of actual physical medical complication

00:23:02.920 that would necessitate an abortion is ridiculous. Now, it's very possible that a woman in the later 1.00

00:23:11.720 stages of pregnancy could have a serious physical medical complication. That would mean that she can 0.92

00:23:18.300 no longer carry the baby. But in those cases, if you're interested in preserving, preserving the

00:23:23.800 baby's life, you would just deliver the baby alive. Doctors do this all the time in hospitals all across

00:23:31.640 America. They have emergency C-sections and so on. It's a very common thing. But with late-term abortions, 0.99

00:23:39.480 now, if it's a late-term abortion, there is going to be a delivery. Either way, the baby's coming out. 0.73

00:23:47.060 It's going to be delivered. The only question is, are you going to kill the baby before you deliver him

00:23:54.120 or not? So with the late-term abortion, all you're doing is adding an extra step. And that extra step

00:24:01.260 happens to involve killing a human being. There is no way that that extra step of killing the baby

00:24:07.980 first could somehow be necessary in order to save the mother's life. No, that's not what it's about.

00:24:16.400 It's just about killing the baby for the sake of killing a baby. And the medical complication is

00:24:21.840 often something like she's just emotionally traumatized by the fact that she's pregnant. 0.57

00:24:29.180 But it doesn't end there. He also then justifies abortion by saying that it makes no difference

00:24:34.960 to the baby if the baby is born or not born. The baby has no input, he says.

00:24:41.920 Now, this is, of course, callous and cruel in the extreme, but this is the kind of rationale

00:24:50.340 that abortionists use. I think sometimes it surprises people to learn that abortionists,

00:24:59.980 especially when they're talking amongst themselves, now, in this case, he's talking to a reporter,

00:25:03.480 so he was being a little bit more honest than usually they're willing to be, but abortionists,

00:25:07.720 they don't bother with all the euphemisms and everything, oftentimes, that people in the pro-abortion

00:25:14.860 movement do. They know what they're doing, and their reason for doing it is just, hey, you know,

00:25:22.300 the baby just doesn't mean anything to me. I don't care. But, of course, with that attitude to say it

00:25:27.840 makes no difference to the baby if it's born or not born, which I suppose is another way of saying

00:25:32.700 that the baby isn't fully conscious of what's going on and doesn't have quite the self-awareness

00:25:43.380 that a human does later in development, which is true. But, of course, if that justifies abortion,

00:25:53.680 then it would justify killing an infant six months after birth or a year after birth.

00:26:02.100 And I suspect that a guy like Leroy Carhart would have no problem with that. If it was legal,

00:26:07.100 he would do that, too. And then, finally, he says that he calls them babies. He says,

00:26:15.820 yeah, they're babies. I'm killing babies. Sure. He's got no problem saying that. He even calls the baby

00:26:24.840 a baby to the mother. He even calls the mother a mother. Which just shows you that all the talking

00:26:34.080 points, all the obfuscation, all the ways that pro-aborts try to sanitize this, well, for the guy

00:26:41.620 who's actually doing the deed, that's all useless. And it's useless because he knows what he's doing.

00:26:51.460 He knows what he sees it for himself. He knows what this is. He knows that, of course, it's a baby

00:26:55.980 I'm dealing with here. What else would it be? It's just that he's gotten himself to a point, he's gotten

00:27:01.720 his soul to a point, or he has sufficiently removed his soul, forfeited his soul to a point where it

00:27:09.660 doesn't bother him. All right. Let's see here. We have this, I mentioned this interesting article

00:27:18.680 in The Federalist that I think we'll save for tomorrow. But I do want to talk about this because

00:27:23.660 Chad Felix Green, who's a great writer over at The Federalist, he wrote a report analyzing this claim

00:27:30.920 that there's an epidemic of anti-trans hate crimes. I'm sure you've heard this claim many times.

00:27:36.360 In fact, we heard it at that Democrat town hall a couple months ago, where someone got up and was

00:27:44.260 screaming about how there's a, people are, I'm pretty sure the phrase was a claim that people

00:27:49.200 are out hunting trans people. Well, Chad Felix Green took a look at that, at this claim, and he took a

00:27:55.620 look at the actual supposed instances of anti-trans hate crimes and found, unsurprisingly, that this is

00:28:03.120 an epidemic that doesn't exist. And we'll talk more about that tomorrow. Because, although it's been a

00:28:10.320 pretty dark show in some ways, I feel like I unfortunately have to continue that trend and show you another

00:28:17.840 disturbing clip. This one from a Pete Buttigieg rally. These are Buttigieg supporters. And look at what they're caught on tape doing.

00:28:29.840 It goes to the song High Hopes by Panic at the Disco, which is kind of the walk-on song for Pete.

00:28:37.840 The way that the dance goes is very, very simple. You do kind of like a push down to the right, and then down to the left, and then up to the right, and up to the left. Super simple dance. And then you do the same thing, but you do roll to the right, roll to the left, roll up to the right, and roll up to the left. And then you do two claps.

00:28:57.840 And then you go back and forth just up in the air, right? So it looks like this to the music. And I encourage you all to do it along with me so that I don't feel silly.

00:29:09.840 I don't feel silly.

00:29:11.840 Woo! 0.99

00:29:13.840 You're a big guy!

00:29:15.840 Yes!

00:29:17.840 I'm so happy!

00:29:19.840 I'm so happy!

00:29:21.840 I'm so happy!

00:29:23.840 I'm so happy!

00:29:25.840 I'm so happy!

00:29:27.840 I'm so happy!

00:29:29.840 I'm so happy!

00:29:31.840 I'm so happy!

00:29:33.840 You know what? I changed my mind.

00:29:47.840 White people are actually bad. 1.00

00:29:49.840 I, you know what? Abolish white people. That's my feeling. 1.00

00:29:53.840 Alt-Right accuses me of being anti-white, which I've always found to be an idiotic and incoherent accusation, but maybe they're right. 1.00

00:30:01.840 Maybe I am anti-white, I think, because all I'm saying is, if you can't dance, which it's a stereotype, but it's true that most white people can't. 0.86

00:30:13.840 Many stereotypes are based in truth.

00:30:15.840 This one definitely is.

00:30:17.840 My feeling is, if you can't dance, then it is unethical and irresponsible for you to attempt it.

00:30:25.840 When other people are present.

00:30:27.840 You are subjecting them to that.

00:30:29.840 Now, I can't dance.

00:30:31.840 I can't sing.

00:30:32.840 So you know what? I don't dance or sing.

00:30:34.840 Because I'm not going to subject others to the horrific spectacle of me attempting to do that.

00:30:40.840 I don't think it's socially responsible.

00:30:42.840 And so this is socially irresponsible, what you're seeing there.

00:30:47.840 Which brings us, inevitably, to this.

00:31:12.840 suppose by one of us now.

00:31:14.840 Come sail away with me.

00:31:15.840 Let's, come sail away. 0.70

00:31:17.840 Come sail away.

00:31:18.840 Come sail away with me.

00:31:21.840 Come sail away.

00:31:23.840 Come sail away.

00:31:25.840 Come sail away with me, baby.

00:31:28.840 Come sail away.

00:31:30.840 Come sail away.

00:31:31.840 Come sail away.

00:31:32.840 Come sail away with me.

00:31:34.840 This is not going to happen in my past what we thought.

00:31:36.840 Yeah, Sean Spicer is still on Dancing with the Stars.

00:31:52.900 And his dancing is getting worse each time.

00:31:56.860 His outfits are getting worse each time.

00:32:00.200 It's almost like he's doing it on purpose.

00:32:03.660 But he got voted through again, I think, last night, didn't he?

00:32:07.440 Look, I'm going to say this. I don't say it lightly.

00:32:10.940 I mean every word of it.

00:32:13.100 The people responsible for this continued spectacle of Sean Spicer dancing,

00:32:20.140 those people are domestic terrorists.

00:32:23.100 This is an act of domestic terrorism.

00:32:25.420 By voting Sean Spicer through, you are tearing at the very fabric of our society.

00:32:31.840 Think of the children who are being exposed to this.

00:32:35.240 My son saw this, and he came up to me, and he said,

00:32:40.080 Daddy, what is that man doing? I'm scared.

00:32:43.120 And I said, Me too, son. Me too.

00:32:46.960 And these are conversations that, if you're voting Sean Spicer through,

00:32:51.260 you're forcing all of us to have this.

00:32:52.720 I don't want to have to explain this to my kids,

00:32:55.760 what's happening on that screen, what that man's doing.

00:32:59.040 I don't know.

00:33:00.460 That's not a conversation I want to have.

00:33:05.300 And now I have to explain to my kid.

00:33:06.880 I mean, because, and then my son said to me,

00:33:08.960 Well, you know, I'm white.

00:33:11.760 Does that mean that when I dance, I'm going to look like that?

00:33:14.200 And I said to him, I'm, yes, I'm sorry, probably.

00:33:20.380 And he broke down in tears.

00:33:24.640 It's outrageous.

00:33:26.400 All right, let's get to a couple of emails.

00:33:28.200 MattWalshow at gmail.com, MattWalshow at gmail.com.

00:33:31.840 This is from Brian, says,

00:33:33.200 Matt, as to your dilemma on the plane,

00:33:35.320 I respect you saying no, I probably would have relented,

00:33:37.960 but only out of sheer awkwardness.

00:33:39.480 Your conscience should be clear. Go in peace.

00:33:41.520 Yes, Brian is referring to an interesting dilemma

00:33:44.560 that I was talking about on social media last night.

00:33:47.620 Let me see what you guys think of this.

00:33:49.040 I am interested in your input.

00:33:51.300 So here's the situation.

00:33:52.460 I was boarding a flight in Baltimore for Los Angeles yesterday.

00:33:57.820 Southwest flight.

00:33:59.820 I was in boarding position A4.

00:34:03.500 So anyone who flies Southwest,

00:34:05.140 you know that, of course, you get Southwest,

00:34:06.680 you pick your own seats.

00:34:08.080 So whoever gets on the plane first,

00:34:09.360 you get your pick of the litter.

00:34:10.280 And I was one of the first people to get on the plane

00:34:13.280 with my position A4.

00:34:14.680 And I can't tell you how excited I was

00:34:16.200 when I saw that A4 position on my boarding pass.

00:34:21.880 And I was so excited.

00:34:24.320 I skipped onto the plane, whistling.

00:34:26.980 That's how happy I was, if you can believe it.

00:34:29.260 And I looked, and I'm very scientific about choosing what seat.

00:34:34.660 Because, of course, I'm going to take an aisle seat,

00:34:35.780 but I also am trying to figure out where on the plane I want to be.

00:34:41.240 I don't want to be too far in the back,

00:34:42.800 but also I don't want to be too far close to the front

00:34:44.440 in case the plane crashes.

00:34:46.000 Because then, you know, the further back you are, the better.

00:34:47.880 Also, if you're more towards the middle,

00:34:49.340 you feel the turbulence a little bit less.

00:34:51.960 Then I'm also thinking about, you know,

00:34:53.860 I want to be, I don't want to be too close to the front

00:34:57.500 because then probably I'm going to end up with someone

00:34:59.520 sitting in the middle next to me.

00:35:00.860 Maybe if I'm a little bit,

00:35:01.840 maybe I can sort of lose myself towards the back.

00:35:03.400 Anyway, so I had this whole process.

00:35:05.220 I picked my seat.

00:35:06.780 Well, about nine hours later, when Group C was boarding,

00:35:09.360 a guy comes on with his wife.

00:35:11.620 Only middle seats are left.

00:35:13.860 You know, if you're like C30 and later, 1.00

00:35:16.680 then you're screwed.

00:35:17.640 It's just you, you, you're going to be in a middle seat.

00:35:20.400 That's all there is to it.

00:35:21.900 Or you're going to have to sit in the overhead bin even, perhaps.

00:35:25.880 Maybe they'll put you down below,

00:35:27.440 tie you to a wing or something like that.

00:35:29.280 So this guy comes on with his wife.

00:35:30.380 He's only got middle seats.

00:35:31.240 They're going to have to sit in different rows and middle seats.

00:35:34.840 This guy decides to sit in my row, in the middle seat.

00:35:38.380 But then he asks me if I wouldn't mind moving to a different seat,

00:35:45.280 moving from my aisle seat to a middle seat in a different row

00:35:49.860 so that his wife can sit next to him. 0.98

00:35:52.060 That's what he asked me.

00:35:54.080 If I would, again, move from my aisle seat to a middle seat.

00:35:58.600 Here's the question that I posed.

00:36:02.700 And I've gotten thousands of answers to it,

00:36:04.640 which I wasn't quite expecting.

00:36:06.580 Who is the jerk here?

00:36:08.960 Me for saying no?

00:36:11.540 Which I did say no.

00:36:12.800 I did refuse.

00:36:15.100 I declined that invitation.

00:36:17.180 I said I'm going to stick with my seat.

00:36:18.780 Thank you very much.

00:36:20.080 So who's the jerk?

00:36:21.540 Me for saying no

00:36:22.640 and refusing to let the guy sit next to his wife 0.98

00:36:25.480 or him for asking in the first place?

00:36:30.280 Or are we both innocent doves?

00:36:33.160 I guess that's also an option.

00:36:34.720 Obviously, I'm biased here.

00:36:36.300 I'd like to hear your thoughts.

00:36:37.500 Don't let my analysis influence you at all.

00:36:39.360 But it seems to me that asking someone to switch

00:36:41.920 from an aisle seat to a middle seat,

00:36:44.260 you just don't do that.

00:36:45.900 I fly all the time.

00:36:46.920 I've never been asked that.

00:36:48.140 I've never heard anyone ask that before.

00:36:50.000 Or, you know, the middle seat for a six-hour flight,

00:36:55.100 there's a reason why his wife didn't want to sit in it, right? 0.97

00:36:57.380 So to ask a stranger to take on that discomfort seems,

00:37:03.040 I don't know, it seems tacky to me, to put it mildly.

00:37:06.200 Now, if his traveling companion was a young child

00:37:08.680 and he wanted to sit next to his kid,

00:37:10.000 then yeah, I would do it.

00:37:11.320 Or if there was some other extenuating circumstances,

00:37:13.100 his wife was sick or something,

00:37:15.080 then, you know, that would be different.

00:37:17.920 But he didn't express any extenuating circumstances.

00:37:19.760 It sounded like he just wanted to sit next to his wife.

00:37:22.860 And that just is not good enough.

00:37:27.280 It's a pretty significant sacrifice he's asking me to make

00:37:30.200 without giving me any real reason why I should.

00:37:34.600 And so I had to say no.

00:37:36.080 It's kind of like, imagine if you went to the movies

00:37:38.480 and you got to the movies early

00:37:40.980 because you wanted to pick your seat.

00:37:43.120 You picked a seat.

00:37:44.140 You picked seats like in the middle row,

00:37:47.380 also in the middle of the middle row.

00:37:49.380 So you've got, you're perfectly lined up with the screen,

00:37:51.420 not too far back, not too close.

00:37:53.260 And then imagine that some other people come 30 seconds

00:37:55.480 before the movie starts

00:37:57.020 and they come up to you and they say,

00:37:58.860 would you mind getting up and moving to a worse seat

00:38:01.800 so we can sit there?

00:38:04.140 Would you ever do that?

00:38:05.560 Would you actually say, well, if you,

00:38:07.060 of course, yes, sit down.

00:38:08.520 Because here's my thing.

00:38:12.180 If in that situation you did get up

00:38:14.620 and give the person your seat,

00:38:16.060 it's not because you're being nice.

00:38:17.560 It's just because you're a punk

00:38:18.880 who got bullied out of your seat.

00:38:21.120 It's just because you felt too awkward saying no

00:38:23.080 and so you wimped out and gave him what he wanted.

00:38:25.960 It's not because you're being generous.

00:38:30.120 Anyway, that's my case for myself, but I will.

00:38:33.360 A surprising number of people said

00:38:35.440 that I was the jerk in the situation,

00:38:36.940 which I don't know if they really feel that way

00:38:39.620 or if their view is clouded by the fact

00:38:43.580 that I'm a jerk in general

00:38:45.820 and so they just assume that I was a jerk here,

00:38:48.320 which I don't, look, I don't deny that I'm a jerk.

00:38:50.380 I'm just saying that doesn't make me a jerk

00:38:51.580 in this particular situation.

00:38:53.920 You have to separate the two.

00:38:56.760 This is from Yehuda, says,

00:38:58.720 good afternoon, Matt.

00:38:59.520 About a month ago, I started listening to your show

00:39:01.220 on my drive home and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

00:39:02.700 I appreciate your views on relationships and marriage.

00:39:05.080 One thing you mentioned yesterday

00:39:06.060 was the benefit of getting married at a young age.

00:39:08.060 My wife and I married seven months ago.

00:39:09.520 I was 20.

00:39:10.040 She was 19.

00:39:11.840 We are expecting a child in three months.

00:39:13.500 I know I'm newlywed, but I can support your point

00:39:15.960 that I know my wife is a totally different person

00:39:18.200 than she was when I proposed.

00:39:21.720 That being said, so am I.

00:39:23.020 I love her more and more every day.

00:39:24.520 I have never been with another woman,

00:39:25.880 nor do I have any regret on not playing the field.

00:39:29.260 I guess I don't have a question.

00:39:30.220 I just wanted to express my appreciation

00:39:31.900 for your outlook on marriage,

00:39:33.180 which I find myself consistently agreeing with,

00:39:35.280 even though I'm an Orthodox Jew and you're a Christian.

00:39:37.380 Now I'm wondering, was this the guy

00:39:38.620 who wanted to sit next to his wife on the plane? 1.00

00:39:41.820 Because now I'm starting to feel guilty.

00:39:43.680 That is one thing that occurred to me.

00:39:45.040 It's like, you really don't want to be apart

00:39:47.620 from your wife for six hours?

00:39:48.760 I mean, I'm just saying.

00:39:50.060 Like, you can't...

00:39:51.360 I think there are a lot of married couples

00:39:52.560 who would say, hey, that's fine.

00:39:54.160 I'll sit by myself in silence for six hours.

00:39:56.080 That's cool.

00:39:56.460 So the very fact that you would be so desperate

00:39:59.820 to sit next to your wife for six hours

00:40:01.700 when you're with her all the time anyway,

00:40:04.920 maybe they were newlyweds. 0.99

00:40:05.880 Maybe they were going on their honeymoon.

00:40:09.540 And they were just so in love with each other.

00:40:11.280 They couldn't...

00:40:11.760 Darling, I can't be apart from you.

00:40:14.840 They were sitting there texting each other.

00:40:16.540 I don't know if they were actually texting each other,

00:40:18.020 but, you know.

00:40:20.540 Anyway, I don't know if that...

00:40:23.080 Would that make me a jerk then in that case,

00:40:24.400 if they were newlyweds?

00:40:26.460 And I forced them to be apart in that way.

00:40:30.680 No, but thanks for the email.

00:40:32.400 And congratulations on the marriage, by the way.

00:40:34.660 I think you guys made a great decision.

00:40:37.600 As I said yesterday,

00:40:38.640 I'm a big proponent of marrying young.

00:40:40.660 It's not for everybody, of course.

00:40:42.720 We all have to make decisions

00:40:43.760 that are right for us

00:40:44.440 in our particular situations.

00:40:45.760 But I certainly think that

00:40:48.360 it's something that once...

00:40:51.160 You know, once you're an adult

00:40:52.120 and you leave the house,

00:40:54.680 it's something to at least consider.

00:40:56.740 And starting that journey together.

00:40:59.220 And I think you guys will

00:41:00.320 be happy that you did.

00:41:03.320 So congratulations again.

00:41:04.640 Finally, this is from Michael.

00:41:05.840 It says,

00:41:06.000 I'm a libertarian conservative

00:41:06.980 and agree with much of what you say.

00:41:08.400 I agree on conservative values,

00:41:09.920 but do not believe the government

00:41:10.900 should be used to push said values.

00:41:13.140 On the topic of allowing people

00:41:14.600 to kill themselves, 0.84

00:41:15.540 I disagree with you.

00:41:16.480 I do not want anyone

00:41:17.440 to kill themselves and would... 0.59

00:41:18.980 This is assisted suicide

00:41:20.020 we're talking about.

00:41:21.280 As we've been discussing

00:41:22.260 in the email portion

00:41:23.160 for the last few days.

00:41:24.200 I do not want anyone

00:41:25.120 to kill themselves

00:41:25.660 and would do all I could

00:41:26.740 to convince that person otherwise.

00:41:28.220 But as bad as an action

00:41:29.100 as it might be for the person,

00:41:30.920 as you said,

00:41:31.560 I don't see why

00:41:32.160 it's the state's job

00:41:33.460 to prohibit that.

00:41:34.780 Take legalization of drugs.

00:41:36.200 A person should be allowed

00:41:37.080 to do all the drugs they want

00:41:38.100 as long as no one else is harmed.

00:41:39.780 And this might not be

00:41:40.540 in their best interest,

00:41:41.400 but they're still

00:41:42.100 a free individual.

00:41:43.880 Just as I would try

00:41:44.700 to stop a person

00:41:45.880 from committing suicide,

00:41:46.900 I'd try the same

00:41:47.600 for a drug addict.

00:41:48.720 At the end of the day,

00:41:49.520 it is still their choice

00:41:50.440 and they are not physically

00:41:51.200 harming anyone else

00:41:51.960 in the process,

00:41:52.860 so it's okay.

00:41:53.840 How do you disagree

00:41:54.640 and can you change my mind?

00:41:56.840 Well, I can only say...

00:41:57.860 I've gotten so many emails

00:41:58.760 on this and people

00:41:59.700 making the same point, Michael.

00:42:01.480 I can only repeat

00:42:02.200 what I've been saying.

00:42:02.960 First of all,

00:42:03.360 we're talking about

00:42:03.880 assisted suicide,

00:42:04.860 so we're not talking really

00:42:05.960 about whether or not

00:42:06.720 a person and an individual

00:42:08.080 has the right

00:42:08.980 to kill themselves.

00:42:10.220 We're saying,

00:42:10.880 does a third party

00:42:12.280 have the right

00:42:13.080 to come in

00:42:13.640 and get involved?

00:42:14.820 And especially

00:42:15.540 when the third party

00:42:16.280 is someone,

00:42:16.880 a representative

00:42:17.340 of the medical industry,

00:42:18.640 which is supposed

00:42:19.340 to be focused

00:42:19.880 on healing

00:42:20.480 and treating disease,

00:42:21.540 not killing people.

00:42:23.000 And what I would say

00:42:24.100 is that no.

00:42:25.100 So this is really focused

00:42:26.160 on that third party.

00:42:27.060 I think that...

00:42:28.060 So even if I agree

00:42:29.040 that you have a right

00:42:29.900 to kill yourself, 0.92

00:42:30.540 whatever that could possibly mean,

00:42:32.160 I don't think

00:42:33.000 that anyone else

00:42:34.320 has a right

00:42:35.060 to help you.

00:42:38.760 And if you are saying

00:42:39.800 that someone has a right

00:42:40.620 to help another person

00:42:41.560 kill themselves, 0.69

00:42:42.120 you can't do it

00:42:42.740 on a self-determination basis

00:42:44.320 because it's not

00:42:45.040 self-determination.

00:42:46.060 You're helping to determine

00:42:46.940 someone else's self

00:42:47.860 or rather to obliterate

00:42:49.560 someone else's self.

00:42:51.160 So there's that.

00:42:51.960 Also, I would just say

00:42:52.920 on the libertarian thing,

00:42:54.820 I sympathize with libertarian views

00:42:58.000 in many respects,

00:43:00.120 especially when it comes

00:43:00.760 to taxes and economics.

00:43:01.900 But I do think

00:43:07.900 that the reason

00:43:09.880 why I don't myself

00:43:10.740 identify as a libertarian

00:43:12.280 is because

00:43:14.000 you go...

00:43:17.580 It can be a bit

00:43:19.060 too simplistic at times

00:43:20.700 where you completely

00:43:23.180 disregard

00:43:23.980 the concept

00:43:25.840 of the public good

00:43:27.240 and any notion

00:43:29.480 that the state

00:43:30.180 should be at all involved

00:43:31.480 in fortifying,

00:43:34.480 protecting,

00:43:35.360 facilitating,

00:43:36.360 promoting the public good

00:43:37.880 to you is anathema

00:43:39.460 as a libertarian.

00:43:40.980 I just disagree with that.

00:43:42.080 Now, I agree that

00:43:43.760 many times

00:43:44.960 the state can do things

00:43:46.220 that it says

00:43:47.280 are for the public good

00:43:48.300 but actually are not.

00:43:50.980 So I don't...

00:43:51.840 So that's bad.

00:43:52.500 I agree that that is bad.

00:43:55.220 And there are other things

00:43:56.580 that could be

00:43:57.920 for the public good

00:43:58.660 but maybe the state

00:43:59.960 should not...

00:44:00.620 still shouldn't get involved in

00:44:01.780 because it's not their place.

00:44:04.580 But to just sweep

00:44:05.680 that consideration

00:44:06.520 off the table

00:44:07.520 completely

00:44:08.220 and say that the state

00:44:09.380 has no role here at all,

00:44:11.220 I disagree.

00:44:12.240 In fact,

00:44:12.560 I think that that is

00:44:13.500 one of the roles

00:44:14.340 of the state.

00:44:15.300 It's just they have

00:44:15.940 to do it right.

00:44:17.540 And we as free people

00:44:18.920 in a democratic society,

00:44:21.060 you know,

00:44:21.360 we have the power to...

00:44:22.500 Or we should have

00:44:22.980 the power anyway

00:44:23.640 to see that it is done right.

00:44:25.920 So, for example,

00:44:28.060 something like legalizing drugs.

00:44:30.820 I'm...

00:44:31.540 Legalizing marijuana,

00:44:33.100 fine.

00:44:33.860 I just...

00:44:34.320 I don't...

00:44:34.820 The cost

00:44:37.040 in terms of money

00:44:38.980 and manpower

00:44:39.900 and everything,

00:44:42.120 pain and suffering,

00:44:43.940 involved in...

00:44:44.980 enforcing laws against it

00:44:48.340 just is not worth it.

00:44:49.360 When you consider

00:44:49.920 what marijuana is,

00:44:50.960 which is a,

00:44:51.820 you know,

00:44:52.120 relatively benign

00:44:53.560 in comparison

00:44:54.420 with other substances

00:44:55.640 that are actually legal,

00:44:57.240 such as alcohol

00:44:57.920 and a lot of prescription drugs

00:44:59.400 and so on.

00:44:59.760 So, I'm...

00:45:00.620 So, that's why I'm okay

00:45:01.440 with legalizing marijuana.

00:45:02.500 But the idea

00:45:03.340 of legalizing all drugs,

00:45:04.720 for example,

00:45:05.640 heroin,

00:45:06.840 intravenous heroin,

00:45:09.220 the idea of having

00:45:10.960 a situation

00:45:11.600 where you could just

00:45:12.400 go to the drugstore

00:45:13.680 and pick up

00:45:14.400 intravenous heroin,

00:45:16.960 no,

00:45:17.320 I can't get on board

00:45:18.000 with that.

00:45:19.740 I respect that

00:45:20.720 you're taking your view

00:45:21.720 to its logical conclusion

00:45:22.840 as a libertarian

00:45:23.700 and saying,

00:45:24.200 well, you know,

00:45:25.340 it may not be great

00:45:26.220 for society

00:45:26.840 to have heroin

00:45:28.440 legal for everyone

00:45:29.480 and you could go

00:45:30.020 buy it at the store,

00:45:31.000 but the state

00:45:32.340 has no role there.

00:45:33.500 I just disagree.

00:45:36.000 I think that the state

00:45:36.920 does have a role there.

00:45:39.020 Largely for the sake

00:45:40.460 of the public good

00:45:40.980 in that case.

00:45:42.340 Okay, we'll leave it there.

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00:46:25.780 New polling from

00:46:26.680 the New York Times

00:46:27.460 suggests that Democrats

00:46:28.780 have been living

00:46:29.460 in a progressive fantasy world

00:46:31.240 if they believe

00:46:31.820 they're likely to defeat

00:46:32.740 Trump in 2020,

00:46:34.040 which makes sense

00:46:35.000 if they believe

00:46:35.900 other fantasies

00:46:36.800 like the narrative

00:46:37.640 that Jeffrey Epstein

00:46:38.440 killed himself.

00:46:39.500 We will examine

00:46:40.300 how the left

00:46:40.920 can be so gullible

00:46:41.920 when nobody believes

00:46:43.460 the press.

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The Matt Walsh Show - November 05, 2019

Ep. 364 - The Epstein Cover Up

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