The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 368 - ABC's Witch Hunt

00:00:00.640 Welcome to the show, everybody.

00:00:02.140 A few different things to talk about today.

00:00:04.320 And first of all, I hope you've had a blessed Veterans Day so far.

00:00:07.760 Thank you for all those who have served.

00:00:10.260 And it's unfortunate that on a day to celebrate courage,

00:00:13.860 the courage of those who served,

00:00:14.960 we have to begin by talking about cowardice,

00:00:18.180 the cowardice of our disgraceful media,

00:00:20.980 cowardice evidenced in so many ways,

00:00:23.320 but especially now in its silence

00:00:25.060 surrounding the ABC Jeffrey Epstein scandal.

00:00:30.000 You know, I remarked last week about the irony

00:00:33.240 and hypocrisy of the fact that ABC and CBS

00:00:38.440 colluded to fire a whistleblower.

00:00:41.260 So after all this time the media has spent

00:00:43.400 talking about protecting whistleblowers

00:00:45.680 and talking about the evils of collusion,

00:00:48.820 then they would turn around and collude to fire a whistleblower.

00:00:51.560 So you can't, the irony can't be lost on you.

00:00:55.580 After someone leaked the tape of an ABC reporter

00:00:57.820 revealing how ABC covered for Epstein and Spike

00:01:00.400 the story about his serial sex abuse and sex trafficking,

00:01:02.960 ABC then, as we talked about last week,

00:01:05.040 they went on a mission to track that person down

00:01:07.380 and punish them.

00:01:09.200 Eventually they found the person,

00:01:11.220 or they thought they did,

00:01:13.060 working now at CBS,

00:01:14.660 and CBS fired her on behalf of their rival 0.98

00:01:18.100 for the crime of blowing the whistle on corruption

00:01:22.780 within ABC.

00:01:24.640 But it gets worse.

00:01:27.060 It got much worse for ABC and CBS

00:01:29.980 at the end of last week on Friday.

00:01:32.160 Turns out the woman they fired for being a whistleblower 1.00

00:01:35.320 wasn't even a whistleblower.

00:01:38.040 They colluded against a whistleblower,

00:01:40.380 but ended up punishing an innocent woman.

00:01:42.240 So they tried to collude to fire a whistleblower,

00:01:45.920 but they failed.

00:01:47.220 And it gets even worse than that.

00:01:49.640 Because we find this out from an interview

00:01:52.140 with the woman who was wrongfully terminated,

00:01:54.920 the innocent woman who was blamed

00:01:57.500 for being the whistleblower, but isn't.

00:01:59.920 We find this out in an interview she did with Megyn Kelly.

00:02:04.220 Megyn Kelly scooped the entire mainstream media. 0.97

00:02:06.960 Even though she'd been fired

00:02:09.100 by a mainstream media outlet,

00:02:11.540 she came in and showed them 0.99

00:02:13.380 what real reporting and real journalism looks like,

00:02:17.040 embarrassing them even more in the process.

00:02:19.480 And it's a great interview, by the way.

00:02:22.060 So let's take a look at some of this.

00:02:24.040 The woman's name is Ashley Bianco, 0.98

00:02:27.160 former ABC producer.

00:02:29.060 And here she is with Megyn Kelly

00:02:30.760 explaining what really happened

00:02:33.140 with respect to the now infamous tape.

00:02:36.320 Ashley, thank you for joining me.

00:02:38.600 Did you leak the tape?

00:02:39.960 I did not.

00:02:40.900 Not to anyone?

00:02:42.040 No, never.

00:02:43.180 At any time?

00:02:43.940 No.

00:02:44.740 Did you make a clip of the moment?

00:02:46.840 I did, but I saved it in the internal system.

00:02:50.440 So what was your job at ABC?

00:02:52.040 I was a crash producer.

00:02:54.380 Okay, so a producer.

00:02:55.440 Yeah.

00:02:55.780 And you were in the control room

00:02:56.980 when Amy made those comments? 0.59

00:02:59.180 I wasn't in the control room,

00:03:00.560 but I was watching the comments

00:03:02.440 while I was at my desk.

00:03:03.820 And I had seen what she was saying

00:03:07.220 and I went to my manager and I said,

00:03:09.840 you know, do you see what she's saying?

00:03:11.320 Does she know that she's on a hot mic? 0.99

00:03:13.200 The assistant said to us

00:03:14.280 that Amy knew she was on a mic

00:03:16.500 and that she knew she was being broadcasted

00:03:19.440 to all the affiliates.

00:03:20.600 Right.

00:03:21.040 So this is a moment where she's off the air.

00:03:23.180 She's doing taped promos,

00:03:24.900 but she has a mic on

00:03:26.180 and people can see and hear her.

00:03:27.600 Yeah.

00:03:28.600 So what made you,

00:03:30.160 what did you do?

00:03:30.960 You clipped the moment?

00:03:31.840 You sort of marked the moment in the system?

00:03:33.440 Yeah, I just clipped it off.

00:03:34.820 I essentially marked it in the system.

00:03:36.460 It never left the system.

00:03:37.800 We do it all the time.

00:03:39.040 Did you tell the manager

00:03:39.860 that you had clipped it?

00:03:41.260 I did not.

00:03:42.380 Did you think it was newsworthy,

00:03:43.780 what she was saying?

00:03:44.780 Everyone in the office was freaked out

00:03:46.900 by what she was saying

00:03:47.820 and everyone was watching it.

00:03:49.580 So the purpose for clipping it was what?

00:03:51.300 To watch it back later?

00:03:52.720 Yeah, watch it back later.

00:03:53.760 You know, I did it just for office gossip, you know?

00:03:59.420 Was there any intention to embarrass her?

00:04:01.960 No, not at all.

00:04:03.420 Or ABC?

00:04:04.160 No, I would never.

00:04:05.700 Was this the first time

00:04:06.800 you had ever clipped a segment of an anchor off mic?

00:04:11.340 No, I mean, we do it all the time.

00:04:13.200 You know, part of my job is I'm like a video editor.

00:04:16.680 You know, I clip off moments all the time.

00:04:18.720 I put together, you know, funny anchor reels

00:04:21.660 of, you know, them off camera doing funny stuff

00:04:25.140 to use later in the show.

00:04:27.100 Did you go back and watch it later?

00:04:28.660 I didn't.

00:04:29.260 No, I didn't even, I didn't think about it after that day.

00:04:32.780 Okay, so her crime is that she saw the tape 0.90

00:04:36.100 and she clipped it, which is, that's her job, to clip tape. 1.00

00:04:42.180 Never showed it to anybody.

00:04:44.260 Never sent it to anyone.

00:04:47.160 Wasn't trying to embarrass the reporter.

00:04:49.780 Wasn't trying to embarrass ABC

00:04:51.260 as much as ABC deserves to be embarrassed

00:04:53.140 and eventually embarrassed itself.

00:04:55.520 In fact, she said that she never even heard

00:04:57.360 of Project Veritas.

00:04:59.200 And I think that was actually an interesting moment

00:05:01.500 where she talks about that.

00:05:03.960 Let's watch that.

00:05:05.760 So was that the last you had to do with that clip?

00:05:08.900 Yeah, I didn't touch it.

00:05:10.440 I didn't do anything else with that.

00:05:11.880 You never went back to it?

00:05:13.060 I never went back to it.

00:05:14.300 You didn't download it.

00:05:15.400 You didn't email it.

00:05:16.340 You didn't transfer that file in any way?

00:05:18.160 No, not at all.

00:05:19.440 I didn't touch it after that.

00:05:21.000 It stayed in the system.

00:05:22.540 I hadn't even heard of Project Veritas until this.

00:05:25.780 You know what's interesting about that?

00:05:27.040 She says that she never thought about the clip

00:05:30.020 or looked at it again.

00:05:31.320 She said that she'd never heard of Project Veritas.

00:05:36.100 Now, I believe her on that.

00:05:38.160 I believe that she never heard of Project Veritas.

00:05:40.820 But that alone, let's focus on that for a second.

00:05:48.320 That just reveals what kind of bubble these media companies

00:05:51.880 are keeping their employees in.

00:05:54.220 I mean, the woman is a producer for a major news network.

00:05:57.320 And she looks at clips and things for her job.

00:06:02.240 And she doesn't even know about the existence of Project Veritas

00:06:06.020 or James O'Keefe, which, however you might feel about James O'Keefe

00:06:09.780 and his operation, they've made a lot of news over the years.

00:06:15.300 So having never heard of them is pretty stunning for someone.

00:06:19.400 And that would be like someone at Fox News, a producer at Fox News,

00:06:23.900 who had never heard of Media Matters.

00:06:26.840 Now, I'm not comparing Media Matters to Project Veritas.

00:06:31.060 Project Veritas is a legitimate organization. 0.78

00:06:32.980 Media Matters is just a bunch of lying smear artists.

00:06:36.920 But the point is, it's a similar, in terms of the bubble you would have to be in. 0.55

00:06:43.160 That is pretty incredible.

00:06:45.760 But not the point of the interview.

00:06:47.720 Just worth remarking on, I think.

00:06:49.760 And then Ashley Bianco starts talking about what happened when she was fired. 0.98

00:06:53.780 And she describes the scene, how CBS handled it.

00:06:56.800 And we'll get to that clip in a moment.

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00:08:07.600 Okay, back to the interview with the falsely accused Ashley Bianco.

00:08:10.580 So here's her describing her own firing by CBS.

00:08:16.140 And then in the fall, you decided to leave ABC to go where?

00:08:21.020 To CBS.

00:08:22.260 And I only left purely because CBS had offered me a good contract.

00:08:27.220 And so I, you know, I left and I was just really excited to start a new job.

00:08:34.100 And so this week, you're sitting at CBS doing your job.

00:08:38.180 Yeah.

00:08:38.780 And what happens with Project Veritas?

00:08:40.760 They released the video, you know, and I was shocked.

00:08:43.160 But I didn't think anything of it.

00:08:45.160 How many days had you been at CBS?

00:08:47.240 Only four days, you know.

00:08:49.020 And I begged, I pleaded, I didn't know what I had done wrong.

00:08:53.380 And I just, you know, I didn't, I wasn't even given the professional courtesy to defend myself.

00:08:59.200 You know, I didn't know what I had been accused of.

00:09:03.400 It was, you know, humiliating.

00:09:05.020 It was devastating.

00:09:06.160 Have you ever spoken to James O'Keefe of Project Veritas?

00:09:09.020 No, never.

00:09:09.780 I didn't even know who he was until this week.

00:09:13.040 And hadn't communicated with anybody who works there in any way, shape or form?

00:09:17.580 No.

00:09:18.040 Yeah.

00:09:18.220 I've never communicated with anyone over there.

00:09:20.040 What was your reaction when you found out ABC News had called CBS?

00:09:25.020 Devastated.

00:09:25.500 I mean, it's like, I'll never get a job anywhere else.

00:09:28.560 It was devastating.

00:09:29.960 So they brought this woman over from ABC.

00:09:32.780 They offered her a contract.

00:09:35.460 Four days after she starts, they fire her because of what ABC accused her of.

00:09:42.780 And according to her, they never gave her a chance to explain herself, never gave her a chance to defend herself.

00:09:48.380 She didn't even understand what she'd done wrong.

00:09:50.400 And all of this simply because she was exposed to the clip of the reporter.

00:09:57.960 This is like some Martin Scorsese mob movie type of stuff.

00:10:03.500 ABC is just offing the witnesses.

00:10:06.680 That's what's happening here.

00:10:07.600 It's really incredible.

00:10:08.480 Meanwhile, the actual person who did leak the tape to Project Veritas is still in the company, still working, not for CBS, but for ABC.

00:10:19.180 And they haven't been found yet.

00:10:20.680 They're still there.

00:10:21.600 That person, the real whistleblower, came out.

00:10:24.700 Well, it didn't come out publicly, but published something anonymously with Project Veritas just to try to, I guess, realizing that someone else is being framed for the deed.

00:10:35.700 And what they published, it's worth going and checking out what they had to say.

00:10:41.360 But it says, in part, I came forward with this information bearing no motives other than to have this information public.

00:10:47.700 I did not and do not seek any personal gain from this information, whether it be financial or otherwise, and will always decline.

00:10:53.880 When I became aware of this moment, I had the same reaction as many of you did.

00:10:57.960 Anger, confusion, and sadness.

00:10:59.400 I care not about petty political quarrels and only hope for the best in all of us.

00:11:05.940 It goes on a little bit later.

00:11:07.740 I sit here with all of you in complete shock.

00:11:09.620 I, like many, are at a loss for words on how this has been handled.

00:11:13.600 Instead of addressing this head-on like the company has in the past, it has spun into a mission of seek and destroy.

00:11:19.120 Innocent people that have absolutely nothing to do with this are being hunted down as if we're all sport.

00:11:23.120 I challenge all of you to actually look inwards and remember why this company engages in journalism.

00:11:27.780 We all hold the First Amendment at the foundation of this company, yet forget its history, its purpose, and its reasoning for even coming into existence.

00:11:36.160 To begin with, how lost we are, yearning to be found.

00:11:39.940 I went to Project Veritas for the sole reason that any other media outlet would have probably shelved this as well.

00:11:46.960 I thank all of them and James for seeking the truth.

00:11:48.800 So that's the real whistleblower.

00:11:53.760 I guess the hunt is still on by ABC.

00:11:57.260 They're still trying to track this person down.

00:11:59.420 By the way, in case you were wondering, the rest of media has continued their blackout of this story.

00:12:07.080 One of the most blatant blackouts of a story that I can think of, aside from the yearly blackout that they do of the March for Life every year,

00:12:23.400 when there are 500,000 people marching down the street in Washington, D.C.,

00:12:27.540 literally walking through the front yard of these people, and it gets hardly any coverage by the media.

00:12:33.620 So it's sort of on that level in terms of everyone in the media being on the same page that we're not going to talk about this thing.

00:12:41.460 Brian Stelter, CNN's media reporter, did his show on CNN yesterday.

00:12:48.960 It's a weekly show that he does on Sundays.

00:12:51.860 And it's a show about the media.

00:12:55.360 A show all about covering media stories.

00:12:59.280 What did he have to say about this?

00:13:01.540 Nothing.

00:13:01.980 He said absolutely nothing about it.

00:13:04.800 A show about media, and it doesn't mention the biggest story in media.

00:13:09.620 Not just the biggest story in media this week, but the biggest story in media in the last several years.

00:13:15.180 CNN advertises Stelter's show, ironically named Reliable Sources,

00:13:19.720 advertises it as a show that, quote, examines the media world, telling the story behind the story,

00:13:26.200 and a show that tells us how the news gets made.

00:13:29.460 Well, here's a story behind the story.

00:13:33.340 Talk about a story behind the story.

00:13:36.540 Here's something showing how the news gets made, or doesn't get made in this case.

00:13:42.060 And we have tape of it.

00:13:44.040 We have tape of a reporter confessing to all of this.

00:13:48.540 And Stelter just ignores it.

00:13:50.920 This is really like, it would be as if CNN's weather reporter ignored a Cat 5 hurricane bearing down on Florida.

00:13:59.460 Imagine if there was an hour-long show about the weather on CNN, and it didn't even mention the hurricane, made no mention of it.

00:14:08.740 It wasn't even like they buried it.

00:14:10.120 It was just they pretended it wasn't happening.

00:14:11.820 And this shows, again, what fake news really consists of and how it works, what media bias really means.

00:14:22.320 Because the way people talk about the media, the critics of the media, the way that they, or I should say we, often talk about the media and media bias,

00:14:34.120 it's as if we're saying that the media literally invents stories out of whole cloth.

00:14:40.000 Well, not literally invents stories out of whole cloth.

00:14:43.760 I mean, no one thinks that they're actually building a story out of cloth.

00:14:46.900 But anyway, we talk about it as if we're saying that the media is just making up stories off the top of their head and reporting it.

00:14:57.020 Now, that might happen sometimes, or something close to that might happen sometimes.

00:15:01.280 But that's not generally the way media bias and fake news works.

00:15:05.240 And it's important for us to realize this so we know what we're dealing with.

00:15:08.820 In reality, the bias is much more insidious.

00:15:12.140 And it's more insidious because it's less glaring. 0.59

00:15:17.280 Though this time it's pretty damned glaring.

00:15:19.980 But the real bias, the most damaging kind of bias, is in how they choose which stories to ignore.

00:15:28.280 So that's how you know if they're really worried about something.

00:15:32.540 Not because they're making up stories, but if they just ignore it and pretend it's not happening.

00:15:40.040 And the good thing for them is when they do that, they can always turn around and say,

00:15:45.440 Oh, what do you mean? This isn't fake news.

00:15:47.100 We didn't make anything up.

00:15:51.380 Right. You're pretending it's not happening, which is just as bad.

00:15:58.280 Right. So, Brian Stelter's media show.

00:16:03.300 We could say his media show on Sunday, it was all fake news.

00:16:08.480 And not because the things he was talking about weren't true, although I'm sure a lot of it wasn't.

00:16:12.980 But it's a media show.

00:16:16.480 And the implication is, okay, viewer, here's all the important stuff happening in media.

00:16:23.780 Didn't mention this.

00:16:25.920 So what you're saying, without saying it, is this thing over here didn't happen.

00:16:31.140 That's fake news.

00:16:35.100 Speaking of fake news, here's the fact-checking site PolitiFact.

00:16:40.300 Anytime a site advertises itself as a fact-checker, that's when you know that it probably does basically the opposite of that.

00:16:49.160 PolitiFact is debunking what they say is a false claim.

00:16:52.600 And here's the screenshot.

00:16:55.700 It says, a Trump ad said Democratic presidential candidates support giving illegal immigrants free health care at our expense.

00:17:02.560 We rated that mostly false.

00:17:05.020 Now a Florida GOP leader made a similar statement.

00:17:07.920 It is still mostly false.

00:17:10.740 Okay.

00:17:11.660 Mostly false.

00:17:12.540 Well, let's go and look at the tape.

00:17:14.880 Raise your hand if your government plan would provide coverage for undocumented immigrants.

00:17:22.600 And everybody's hands go up.

00:17:25.880 Now, what PolitiFact tries to do here, the move they pull, is to say that, well, yeah, the candidates said they would provide health care to illegals, but they never said it would be free.

00:17:35.840 That wasn't stipulated.

00:17:37.820 And it wasn't.

00:17:38.920 The word free did not appear in that question when the moderator said, would you give health care to undocumented immigrants?

00:17:45.780 It wasn't said free health care.

00:17:47.540 But all of these candidates support some version of free health care.

00:17:52.600 All of them do.

00:17:54.040 So the free part is implied.

00:17:57.920 I mean, does anyone have any doubt that if you asked any of these candidates whether a poor illegal immigrant with no money should still get coverage, does anyone have any doubt that they would all say yes? 0.84

00:18:09.280 So they don't need to say free, but this is, once again, it's the lie by omission.

00:18:17.560 PolitiFact says, well, they never said free.

00:18:19.680 Yeah, but you're leaving out the fact that that is implied.

00:18:22.980 When Democrats are talking about health care, the free part is implied.

00:18:27.880 Okay, here are some poll results that I'm seeing shared around on social media that are, I think, pretty interesting.

00:18:37.920 Here's the graphic from Pew.

00:18:39.740 The question from Pew is, can couples who are living together but not married raise children just as well as married couples?

00:18:49.780 And 60% of Americans say yes overall.

00:18:52.380 Almost half of Protestants, over half of Catholics, almost 80% of religiously unaffiliated, all of them say, sure, no need to be married to raise kids.

00:19:02.360 Now, technically, there is a way to understand this question that could justify those results.

00:19:12.920 The question was, can, not is likely to.

00:19:17.980 So technically, you could say, well, what if you've got an abusive, alcoholic, married couple compared to sober, non-abusive, unmarried parents?

00:19:32.160 Couldn't the unmarried ones in that scenario do a better job of parenting or at least as good a job? 1.00

00:19:39.240 And sure, but that's, so if the question is, can, is it logically possible?

00:19:44.860 Well, yeah, it's logically possible, but that's, it's not really what the question seems to imply.

00:19:49.860 It seems to imply that to 60% of Americans, there isn't much of a difference between married and unmarried couples when it comes to their abilities to, to raise kids. 0.90

00:20:00.500 And that is just completely foolish and also pretty concerning.

00:20:05.120 When you consider that a certain portion of the people answering that question or who have that opinion haven't had kids yet themselves. 0.96

00:20:13.320 And so what they're revealing is that, you know, if I ever have kids, I don't see any reason why I have to be married first.

00:20:18.460 One of the, if I could just explain briefly for anyone who's confused on this, one of the most important things that you can give to a child, one of the most essential needs of a child, besides the basics of food, water, clothing, shelter, all that.

00:20:40.140 But one of the most essential, deeper human needs of a child is security.

00:20:44.320 And I'm not just talking about physical security, although there's that, but also emotional, spiritual, psychological security.

00:20:51.640 That knowledge, that feeling that he's in a stable environment where both parents are committed to each other and to the family and they aren't going to leave, they aren't going to give up, they aren't going to abandon, they aren't going to cut and run.

00:21:03.920 Um, when you aren't married and you're raising kids, you simply cannot provide that kind of security to the child, which is something the child needs.

00:21:15.520 In fact, you are refusing to provide it.

00:21:18.620 You are, you are clearly refusing it in principle.

00:21:23.420 You're saying to the kid, even if you're not saying it out loud, the implication is what you're saying is, yeah, I could leave anytime.

00:21:28.780 That's why I'm not getting married is because I want to have the ability to leave.

00:21:33.920 And maybe a child at a very young age can't put two and two together on that.

00:21:38.000 Doesn't really understand what marriage is versus not marriage.

00:21:40.440 But as a child gets older, they're going to put that together and realize that the only reason you're not getting married is because you want to have the option of leaving.

00:21:51.340 And that is very traumatic for a child.

00:21:53.540 Just, just the possibility of that.

00:21:55.080 I mean, I can remember, um, as a kid, when I first, my parents were married, but, and growing up, you know, as a very young child, before I went to school, even the idea of parents leaving and marriages falling apart, just, I, it never occurred to me.

00:22:18.680 I didn't even know that was a thing.

00:22:20.120 I, I never even thought of it, but then as I go to school and, uh, this was in the, in the, you know, early nineties.

00:22:27.260 So it was part of the divorce boom.

00:22:29.480 The divorce boom was still, was still very much in effect has never quite gone away though.

00:22:34.680 It's died down a little bit.

00:22:36.500 Um, and, and I remember going to school and with all these, and I start meeting all these kids with divorced parents.

00:22:45.160 And that was, I, I can very, I can remember distinctly when that realization dawned on me, that that was even an option, that that was even a thing that could happen.

00:22:58.320 And that's really difficult for a child.

00:23:00.860 So I remember going home to my mom and, and bring this up to her and saying, you know, I'm worried that you and dad are going to, are you and dad going to get divorced?

00:23:09.280 And I was saying that not because of things I'd seen in the home, but just because of things I'd heard from my friends at school.

00:23:15.780 And I remember she sat me down.

00:23:17.740 I remember it distinctly.

00:23:19.060 She sat me down and said, you know, your dad and I will never leave each other.

00:23:23.620 We will never get divorced.

00:23:24.720 You never have to worry about that.

00:23:26.180 Never.

00:23:27.980 And she was right.

00:23:28.980 And I believed her, but being able to believe her, if she had tried to say that to me, if she had tried to sit me down and say, look, your dad,

00:23:39.260 dad and I, we're never going to leave each other.

00:23:40.720 We're in this for the long haul where, you know, we're, we're, we're all together.

00:23:44.220 We're a family.

00:23:45.040 If she had tried to give me that speech and they weren't even married, then I think it'd be very difficult for me to believe it.

00:23:53.340 But I did believe it.

00:23:54.580 And being able to believe it was really important for me.

00:23:57.720 I think for my development as a child to just know that I'm, that I'm safe when I go home and that this thing we've got going on in the house, it's not going to fall apart.

00:24:10.260 And you got to be able to give that to a kid.

00:24:12.120 Now, of course, there are, you know, we're talking about divorce.

00:24:15.700 So there are children who think they have that, that kind of security, and then find out they don't.

00:24:23.700 But the ideal here, the point is that we should be giving that to a child, which means getting married and, and then importantly, actually staying married.

00:24:33.920 Okay, let's go to emails, mattwalshow at gmail.com, mattwalshow at gmail.com.

00:24:41.840 Actually, before we get to emails, I did have one other thing to say.

00:24:44.380 The, the important issue that I, I didn't want to gloss over the Popeye's chicken sandwich that everyone's been talking about.

00:24:52.860 I finally, I finally had a chance to try it.

00:24:55.800 And I'll tell you the truth.

00:24:57.220 This, this Popeye's chicken sandwich that is, it's got the whole, the whole world's talking about it.

00:25:01.940 Biggest thing going on in the world.

00:25:04.020 Um, and I, I finally tried it.

00:25:07.280 I was very skeptical.

00:25:08.360 So as I was eating it, I'll be honest with you.

00:25:12.320 I started to cry.

00:25:13.800 I was crying because I knew that the truth that Popeye's had declared war on Chick-fil-A.

00:25:22.320 They were going for Chick-fil-A's throne.

00:25:25.800 And with this sandwich, they had succeeded.

00:25:29.560 They had crowned themselves King of the chicken sandwich.

00:25:33.980 Um, I didn't think they'd be able to do it, but they did.

00:25:37.260 This is like the stuff of epic poetry.

00:25:41.020 It was, it was tragic.

00:25:43.120 So as I'm eating it and as a big Chick-fil-A fan myself, as I'm eating it, um, I, I, I, I, I sense the tragedy of it.

00:25:52.660 Yet it's also beautiful because as one King falls, another takes his place.

00:25:59.820 And I thought about that and I wept and everybody at Popeye's was staring at me.

00:26:04.520 And then someone came up and stabbed me in the chest because, well, it's Popeye's and that's what happens there.

00:26:11.160 If you can overlook that part of it.

00:26:12.620 So what I'll say is the experience of eating at Popeye's is, is, well, it's, it, in some ways more exciting than eating at Chick-fil-A.

00:26:22.560 You never know what's going to happen at a Popeye's, um, but it's not always as pleasant.

00:26:28.220 So I think that Chick-fil-A still has the one up in terms of customer service, especially customer service.

00:26:34.360 I don't even think you, what happens at Popeye's.

00:26:36.660 I don't think you can call that customer service.

00:26:38.720 You just walk in.

00:26:40.080 They scowl at you.

00:26:41.140 It's one of those places where they, they sneer at you for even walking in the door and then you just throw the food at you.

00:26:46.380 Yeah.

00:26:46.700 What do you want?

00:26:47.320 You want chicken here?

00:26:48.200 Take it.

00:26:49.040 Get out of here.

00:26:49.660 That's what Popeye's does. 0.95

00:26:52.020 Um, which I, I kind of appreciate it because it's honest and it's, yeah, Hey, we don't forget about all the pleasantries.

00:26:58.560 I don't need any of that.

00:27:00.380 My pleasure.

00:27:02.280 You know, they're not going to, they're not going to do that for you, but, um, when it comes down to the food, it's just, I think there's no denying it.

00:27:08.140 The Popeye's chicken sandwich is just better.

00:27:10.960 Um, it just is.

00:27:14.040 All right.

00:27:15.280 Let's go to emails.

00:27:16.620 Then from Jacob says, hi, madam, big fan of the show and congrats for your new mug.

00:27:22.900 Yes.

00:27:23.280 My new mug right here.

00:27:24.400 Thank you.

00:27:25.300 Thank you.

00:27:25.800 Thank you for noticing it.

00:27:28.140 Um, I really enjoyed your piece of music you played last week.

00:27:31.400 I listened to it over and over and was deeply inspired and found it spiritually uplifting.

00:27:35.280 I recently argued with a friend regarding discrimination of the basis of religion.

00:27:40.340 I have difficulties understanding why it's wrong.

00:27:42.700 Unlike race, which one is born with religion is a set of viewpoints and moral values that a man can accept or reject.

00:27:49.560 So why is it at all wrong to discriminate?

00:27:52.260 If I believe that one, that one's beliefs are bigoted or wrong.

00:27:55.660 I was thinking maybe there's a distinction between kids who are raised with a certain religion and didn't choose it to adults who can decide for themselves.

00:28:01.740 What do you think?

00:28:03.620 P.S.

00:28:04.060 I married two years ago.

00:28:05.220 We're now expecting twins.

00:28:06.240 Perhaps you can share a good piece of advice for raising twins.

00:28:08.600 P.P.S.S.

00:28:10.240 I think it should be P.P.S.

00:28:12.120 Anyway, why are you removed?

00:28:13.400 Why have you removed from Twitter, uh, from your Twitter, Twitter bio, the theocratic fascist title?

00:28:19.040 Well, thanks for reading.

00:28:22.340 Well, hi, Jacob.

00:28:23.420 As for your third question, I took it.

00:28:24.880 I took the theocratic fascist thing down for a time because I thought it was important for me to emphasize my preferred pronouns, which are we, us, our.

00:28:33.620 But it's back on there now.

00:28:35.180 So, um, have no fear.

00:28:36.960 As for your second question about twins, congratulations.

00:28:39.900 First of all, what is my advice?

00:28:42.580 My advice on, on raising twins is, um, well, here's what I would say.

00:28:46.800 What you want to do generally is to make the right parenting decisions as opposed to making the wrong decisions.

00:28:57.200 So let me try to explain it.

00:28:59.020 What, uh, if you're confused, when you're faced with a parental situation or decision, basically what you're going to say to yourself is what's the right thing to do.

00:29:10.620 And then you're going to do that.

00:29:12.020 So you may be tempted sometimes to do the wrong thing, but what I would recommend is don't do that thing, the wrong one, do the right one.

00:29:20.860 And, um, anyway, I'm writing a parenting advice book in which I sort of flesh this out in more detail because I know it can be a little overwhelming at times.

00:29:28.840 As for your first question about discrimination based on religion, it depends on what kind of discrimination you're talking about.

00:29:34.260 Uh, you, as a private citizen, I agree, have every right to discriminate against me based on the fact that I'm Catholic.

00:29:40.340 So you can do that. 0.99

00:29:41.720 You horrible bigot. 0.98

00:29:42.420 If you want to, if you don't want to associate with me, if you don't want to consort with the likes of me, that's fine. 1.00

00:29:48.320 No, that's your right until I am crowned theocratic fascist, in which case you'll be executed. 0.87

00:29:52.900 But until that moment, you have every right to do it.

00:29:55.820 Discrimination becomes a constitutional issue or, or it, it should only become a constitutional issue when it's the state doing it.

00:30:03.000 And so why can't the state discriminate based on religion?

00:30:06.520 Well, because your right to believe what you believe is essential.

00:30:13.400 It is integral.

00:30:15.700 Um, that's what freedom of religion really protects.

00:30:19.020 That's why it's folded into the first amendment. 0.94

00:30:21.400 It protects your right to believe what you believe and to say what you believe.

00:30:27.140 And, and those two rights are fundamental to us as, as human beings.

00:30:31.380 Um, you say that religion is a choice.

00:30:36.200 Well, I don't, in a sense, yes, but in another sense, no, because is it really a choice to believe something?

00:30:46.920 I would argue that it's, it's kind of not really a choice to believe because you, you either believe something or you don't.

00:30:53.060 So what you can't do is just get up one day and decide that, okay, I'm going to believe such and such or get up and decide, oh, I believe this.

00:31:03.540 I believe this thing yesterday.

00:31:04.780 I'm not going to believe it anymore.

00:31:05.800 So if, if, if, when we talk about choice, if what we mean is that, you know, the ability to just switch courses and you're, you're, you're walking that direction and you choose to walk to walk another direction.

00:31:17.980 If we're talking about that sort of choice, then in a sense, no, religion and belief is not a choice because you either believe it or you don't.

00:31:27.480 Um, you can make choices that eventually lead you to certain conclusions that you hadn't arrived at before.

00:31:35.720 And can, you can make a series of choices that lead you in the direction of developing a new belief system or losing a belief system that you had before.

00:31:45.400 Um, you can choose to, uh, listen to someone as they're explaining their belief system.

00:31:51.160 And you could choose to take that seriously and consider what they believe.

00:31:55.220 So you can make all those choices, but what you can't do is just at the, at the drop of a hat, snapping your fingers, choose to believe something or to not believe something.

00:32:04.660 And that again is why it's so important that we have this freedom because whatever you think about religion, whether it doesn't matter for the, for the government to come in and say, you can't believe that.

00:32:20.920 Well, it's not only is that tyranny, but it's, it would be impossible to follow that or for the government to come and say, you have to believe this.

00:32:29.940 Like for the government to impose a state religion and say, Hey, if you live here, you have to believe this religion.

00:32:36.400 What do you mean?

00:32:36.940 Have to believe it.

00:32:37.580 What if I don't, what if I can't, what if I just don't believe it?

00:32:43.540 So that's, um, those are the things to keep in mind.

00:32:47.280 And, and again, but the most important thing is when we're talking about freedom of religion, even if you're not a religious person, I don't know if you are or not, but.

00:32:54.660 But even if you're not a religious person, you should still take freedom of religion seriously.

00:33:01.620 And it's still important to you because it's not just religion per se that it's protecting.

00:33:07.000 It's your right to believe things and you have your own belief system, whatever it happens to be.

00:33:11.820 And so the freedom of religion protects that.

00:33:14.400 Also first amendment protects that, uh, broadly speaking.

00:33:17.800 Okay, let's go to Travis, uh, says thoroughly enjoyed your banjo song.

00:33:27.340 It was just the right length.

00:33:28.480 Not too long, not too short.

00:33:29.860 When will you be recording your album?

00:33:31.560 Are we all required to listen to your music to avoid being put to death? 0.97

00:33:34.440 What would happen if some moron started doing you while you were on stage? 0.99

00:33:37.980 Travis, listening to my musical pieces, of course, won't be enough. 1.00

00:33:41.380 You'll need to show an appropriate level of emotional investment.

00:33:44.160 Um, I need to see the tears welling up in the eyes.

00:33:48.140 I need to feel your enthusiasm for my music.

00:33:52.580 And, um, anyone who fails to show that enthusiasm will be strangled to death with one of my banjo

00:33:59.220 strings or chords or whatever they're called.

00:34:03.560 Finally, let's see.

00:34:04.740 This is from, um, I got a couple of good ones.

00:34:09.100 Well, we'll do this one and then we'll, I'll save the next one for tomorrow.

00:34:10.940 It says, uh, from Mark says, hello, Matt, you've been writing about airplane etiquette

00:34:15.900 for a while.

00:34:16.780 And, uh, this last suggestion is an affront to all window seat dwellers.

00:34:21.340 Everyone knows that the person who is in the window seat has all power and authority

00:34:24.720 regarding the window.

00:34:25.900 If I want it up, if I want it up and you want it down, well, that's unfortunate for you.

00:34:30.120 I'll sit her.

00:34:31.000 I want to be able to stretch my leg and have quicker access to my bag and getting out that

00:34:35.600 human tube rocket with wings.

00:34:37.500 I may ask for your, you, your preference, but I am under no obligation.

00:34:41.520 You can give me your request, but I have soul and absolute veto authority over that request

00:34:46.480 with no option for it to be overturned.

00:34:48.880 Yes.

00:34:49.300 Mark refers to a tweet that I sent about airplane etiquette, which has been a focus of mine

00:34:53.220 recently.

00:34:54.220 Uh, as a frequent flyer myself, the lack of etiquette on planes has really taken a toll

00:34:59.400 on me physically, emotionally, spiritually.

00:35:01.360 And so here's my point in a typical seating arrangement on a plane, assuming it's a medium

00:35:07.980 to large size plan and you're, and you're not in first class, then you're going to be

00:35:12.000 sitting in a row probably with three seats, window, middle aisle, right?

00:35:17.100 Here's the problem.

00:35:18.040 I like to sit in the aisle seat as I have discussed, and I won't go into the trials and tribulations

00:35:22.260 that I've gone through and just protecting my right to that aisle seat.

00:35:25.080 Um, but the point is that that's where I like to sit because it gives me access to the

00:35:31.160 aisle, gives me a little bit more leg room.

00:35:33.220 Uh, it's the least claustrophobic option of all the claustrophobic options.

00:35:37.860 But the problem is that I also like to be able to look out the window at my leisure because

00:35:44.740 look, first of all, we're 35,000 feet in the air.

00:35:47.780 And I think it's really sad that you're, we're flying 500 miles an hour, 35,000 feet there.

00:35:55.080 We're over the clouds.

00:35:57.140 And what's the first thing that everyone does?

00:35:58.700 As soon as the plane takes off, they just put the window down.

00:36:00.860 Are you really like, you can't appreciate, you don't want to look out and see that beautiful

00:36:05.340 view.

00:36:05.700 You're in the sky flying and you're so jaded to all of it that you just put the window

00:36:10.380 shade down and you don't even want to look out the window.

00:36:13.260 What if we were, what if we were on a, uh, what if this is 20 years in the future and then

00:36:17.380 we, we, they're, they're doing tourist flights to the moon and Mars.

00:36:20.800 Are you going to go to Mars and have the window shade down the whole time?

00:36:25.080 It's crazy.

00:36:26.760 And also, um, at the same time, I like to look out the window so that I can alert the

00:36:32.260 pilot if we're about to crash because he might need my help.

00:36:34.920 And so I want to keep an eye on things.

00:36:36.260 And if it looks like something's going down, I want to be able to go tell him.

00:36:39.220 So, um, the problem is that the person in the window seat usually puts the shade down

00:36:43.740 without consulting anyone else in the row as if they own the window, as if it's their

00:36:49.860 decision to make, this is immoral, unethical, undemocratic.

00:36:54.640 It puts lives at risk potentially.

00:36:58.660 And my point is, and this is why I said on Twitter and it provoked a backlash from all

00:37:03.000 these window hogs. 1.00

00:37:04.200 But just because you're sitting in the window seat, you don't own the window.

00:37:09.400 Show me on your ticket.

00:37:10.840 You, you gotta, you're, you're flying United or whatever.

00:37:13.360 Your sit says you're sitting in a window seat.

00:37:14.840 Show me on the ticket where it says that you control the window.

00:37:18.900 Show me that you can't, you don't control the window.

00:37:22.940 That window is controlled by the community.

00:37:25.580 That is a communal window.

00:37:27.760 And so if you want to put the shade down, you need to consult with the row. 0.99

00:37:33.000 This is America, damn it. 0.99

00:37:34.860 This is not North Korea. 0.99

00:37:37.080 Now, obviously that said, the person in the middle seat has no rights and is not really

00:37:42.680 human. 1.00

00:37:43.120 Uh, the middle seat person is filth and scum. 1.00

00:37:46.060 They are burden. 1.00

00:37:48.040 Uh, you automatically hate them the moment they sit down and they deserve it.

00:37:52.480 They have no right to be there.

00:37:55.140 Uh, everyone knows this.

00:37:56.800 So when I say that you have to consult with the other people, I'm saying there's really

00:38:01.060 only one, the person in the middle is not a person.

00:38:02.800 So you have to consult with the aisle person and there has to be an agreement.

00:38:07.240 If there's no agreement, then the window stays up default position.

00:38:11.560 And that's probably how it was when you got on the plane.

00:38:14.820 And that's all that, you know, that's, that's just, that's my point.

00:38:18.060 It's, it's a really, it's a, it's, this is not just courtesy.

00:38:20.820 This is about, this is about standing for American values and the American ideal.

00:38:30.560 And our founding fathers did not put all their blood, sweat, and tears into founding this

00:38:38.540 great nation just so that one person could sit in the window seat and decide if the shade

00:38:43.360 goes up or down.

00:38:43.980 That is not what they had in mind.

00:38:48.660 Amen.

00:38:49.820 Right.

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