The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 373 - The Kaepernick Con

00:00:00.000 Well, I hope you had a great weekend. I know that I did because I am emotionally dysfunctional and codependent. And that means that my mood is determined by the fate of my favorite football team, which is really strange when you think about it and kind of sad and pathetic. But the Ravens dominated yet again yesterday, so I'm feeling pretty good. In fact, I'm feeling even better because I get to spend the first part of this show discussing a football-related topic, which I always enjoy.

00:00:27.480 And that's the one thing that I will thank Colin Kaepernick for is that he gives me an excuse every once in a while to talk about football in the show. So I do like that. Yes, Kaepernick over the weekend exposed who he has been all along, who I think he has plainly been all along, which is that he is a con man. He's not interested in playing football. He's interested in PR stunts. This shouldn't be news to anyone, but I think maybe it is. And so we'll get into that. We'll talk about it.

00:00:57.480 Along with several other topics, including speaking of people being exposed, Prince Andrew was interviewed by the BBC in regards to rape allegations against him and in regards to his relationship with Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein, who, by the way, didn't kill himself.

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00:02:53.900 Okay. Colin Kaepernick, the former mediocre NFL quarterback who coincidentally discovered a passion for social justice once his star had faded already after an abysmal 2015 campaign with the 49ers when he lost six of the eight games that he started and posted only six touchdowns against five interceptions.

00:03:18.440 That Colin Kaepernick was scheduled to work out for 25 teams this past Saturday.

00:03:24.880 And I think the circumstances of this workout are unusual and worth reflecting on here for a moment.

00:03:33.120 Kaepernick, of course, has been out of the league since 2016.

00:03:36.480 That's the same year that he began his infamous anthem protest.

00:03:39.740 But I think more salient to his three years of unemployment is the fact that not that he had the anthem protest in 2016, but that he went one in 10 that season, posting only about 2,000, 2,241 yards, passing 16 touchdowns before getting benched for Blaine Gabbert.

00:03:58.780 And if you don't follow football, let me just tell you that getting benched for Blaine Gabbert is the NFL equivalent of your dance troupe replacing you with Sean Spicer.

00:04:08.280 It really doesn't get any more humiliating than that.

00:04:11.540 Kaepernick, though, as he's been unemployed, has done pretty well for himself during his period of joblessness, better than most people do when they're out of work for three years.

00:04:19.480 He's signed a multimillion-dollar ad deal with Nike, and he's been hailed across the media as a civil rights martyr.

00:04:27.900 So not a bad side gig while you're out of work.

00:04:32.000 But the point here is that he'd fallen out of his short-lived prime well before his anthem antics started.

00:04:42.460 And you might even say that that's not a coincidence.

00:04:45.760 In fact, that's the reason why he started with the anthem antics then and not before.

00:04:52.900 So he'd fallen out of his prime, and then he spends three years shooting Nike ads instead of playing football.

00:05:01.140 Now, I'm not aware of any other case.

00:05:06.120 And I'm not saying it's never happened.

00:05:07.340 I'm just not aware of any other case.

00:05:09.000 It's certainly unusual for the NFL to hold a private midseason workout on a Saturday, no less, the day before game day, okay?

00:05:18.700 Teams are getting ready, last-minute preparations for Sunday, for football Sunday.

00:05:23.220 So this is on a Saturday in week 11 of the season.

00:05:27.320 I'm not aware of a workout like this, private midseason, attended by 25 scouts,

00:05:31.940 for a backup-level talent who's been out of the league for 35 months.

00:05:38.160 Yet that's what Kaepernick demanded, and that's what he got.

00:05:43.360 There is no conceivable football reason for the NFL to have gone to these lengths for Colin Kaepernick.

00:05:51.160 He's not a star player.

00:05:53.080 He never was a star player.

00:05:54.860 He looked like he was threatening to maybe be a star player in that, what was it, 2012 season where he went to the Super Bowl

00:06:01.940 and lost, by the way, to Joe Flacco, which is another humiliation.

00:06:08.700 So this is a guy who lost to Joe Flacco in the Super Bowl and then a few years later was benched for Blaine Gabbert.

00:06:13.460 It really is.

00:06:15.340 As annoyed as I am with Kaepernick, at the same time, I think, well, this is a man who suffered two of the worst humiliations

00:06:22.060 that any person could ever possibly endure.

00:06:24.780 But anyway, not a star player.

00:06:27.140 Never was a star player.

00:06:30.020 But even if he was a star player, it would still be highly unusual and probably unprecedented

00:06:35.040 for the league to stage an event of this sort just for him in the middle of the season.

00:06:42.740 But it still wasn't good enough for Kaepernick.

00:06:46.200 And actually, because I'm thinking about it, what could possibly be analogous to this?

00:06:53.780 Well, you think about maybe, you know, Michael Vick was a star player.

00:06:57.920 Michael Vick was a transcendent athlete, one of the prime all-star players of his decade,

00:07:04.820 you know, the early 2000s.

00:07:08.080 Obviously left the league because he went to prison for dogfighting.

00:07:12.580 He came back two years later, after two years out of the league, and he did, he came back

00:07:17.900 and he had one all-pro season with the Eagles, which was really impressive.

00:07:24.760 But anyway, I don't think that the NFL, and I have to go back and look, I'm pretty sure the

00:07:29.600 NFL didn't do this for Michael Vick.

00:07:31.900 What they did for Kaepernick, they didn't do for Vick, I'm pretty sure.

00:07:35.040 And Vick was by far a bigger star than Kaepernick ever was.

00:07:44.080 But this was, as I said, not good enough for Kaepernick.

00:07:47.640 And so the Nike salesman pulled out at the last minute, apparently deciding that sometime

00:07:55.040 on Saturday morning that he needed to have the event open to the media.

00:07:59.140 The NFL didn't want the event open to the media.

00:08:01.480 They never agreed to that.

00:08:03.520 And for perfectly understandable reasons, they weren't looking to have a Kaepernickapalooza

00:08:09.420 media spectacle in week 11 of the regular season.

00:08:14.520 They weren't looking to play host to a televised PR stunt for an out-of-work 32-year-old former

00:08:22.100 bench writer.

00:08:23.520 Why would they want to do that?

00:08:25.520 How could you possibly expect them to?

00:08:27.660 So they've already, and listen, I'm no defender of the NFL as an organization, even though

00:08:34.440 I enjoy the product on the field, with some exceptions.

00:08:38.920 But on this, how could you blame them?

00:08:43.580 Of course, they didn't want media there.

00:08:45.800 Why would they want the media there?

00:08:47.440 And I think any sane or reasonable person couldn't possibly expect them to, but Kaepernick is

00:08:54.220 plenty sane, but he's not reasonable, or at least his reasons are entirely separate from

00:08:59.860 the reasons of a real athlete who really wants to play football, which Colin Kaepernick does

00:09:05.620 not.

00:09:05.940 So the guy who wore pig socks, mocking the police during a game back in 2016, canceled

00:09:14.340 the, or rather pulled out of the league hosted event at the last minute, staged his own event

00:09:20.460 instead, complete with news cameras and journalists.

00:09:23.980 Of course, a lot of journalists there who don't follow football.

00:09:26.560 And so they came and they watched Colin Kaepernick throw the football 50 yards in the air to

00:09:32.040 an uncovered wide receiver running down, you know, doing a, just, just, just running a

00:09:37.080 straight right route down, down the, down the sideline.

00:09:39.680 And a bunch of non-sports journalists see that and start talking about, wow, he looked

00:09:45.400 great out there.

00:09:46.380 This guy needs to be on a team stat.

00:09:49.400 Yet just because you can do that doesn't mean that you're going to be a good quarterback

00:09:54.720 in the NFL.

00:09:55.540 A lot of people can do that.

00:09:57.800 See, when you're, when you're really evaluating, you're looking at things like footwork, you

00:10:03.360 know, his, his accuracy and timing, explosiveness, his vision on the field and those sorts of

00:10:10.980 things, which are hard to evaluate at a, at a workout, the way that this one was conducted.

00:10:15.580 But in all of those areas, he's never been very good.

00:10:19.720 And he's certainly going to be worse now than he was back when he was playing three years

00:10:24.740 ago.

00:10:25.540 Uh, Kaepernick also made another conspicuous wardrobe decision, sporting a, uh, Kunta Kinte

00:10:33.420 shirt, um, implicitly comparing himself with a slave.

00:10:37.300 Now, I admit that I'm no history professor.

00:10:41.340 Okay.

00:10:42.460 But I'm pretty sure that the plight of a multimillionaire who had to settle for Hawking Nike shoes, uh,

00:10:50.060 because he couldn't get a job in the NFL really bears no resemblance to historical slavery.

00:10:56.860 And then as if the whole look at me nature of the thing wasn't clear enough, Kaepernick

00:11:03.280 then went and, and ranted to the reporters on the scene about how the 32 teams and Roger

00:11:08.880 Goodell are running from the truth and running from the people.

00:11:11.740 In fact, watch, um, watch his rant at the end of his workout.

00:11:14.600 Look at this.

00:11:15.500 Work you do for the people and telling the truth.

00:11:17.900 That's what we want in everything.

00:11:19.780 I've been ready for three years.

00:11:21.380 I've been denied for three years.

00:11:23.820 We all know why I came out here, showed it today in front of everybody.

00:11:27.160 We have nothing to hide.

00:11:28.860 So we're waiting for the 32 owners, the 32 teams, Roger Goodell, all of them to stop running,

00:11:35.180 stop running from the truth, stop running from the people.

00:11:38.620 We're out here.

00:11:39.440 We're ready to play.

00:11:40.680 We're ready to go anywhere.

00:11:42.260 My agent, Jeff Nally is ready to talk to any team.

00:11:45.180 I interview with any team at any time.

00:11:47.940 I've been ready.

00:11:49.080 I'm staying ready.

00:11:50.060 And I'll continue to be ready.

00:11:52.320 And to all the people that came out here today to support, I appreciate y'all.

00:11:56.720 I love y'all.

00:11:57.640 To the people that aren't here, I'm thinking of you.

00:12:00.680 I appreciate you supporting from where you are.

00:12:03.180 We'll continue to give you updates as we hear.

00:12:06.280 We'll be waiting to hear from Roger Goodell, the NFL, the 32 teams.

00:12:10.880 We'll let you know if we hear from them.

00:12:13.340 Ball's in their court.

00:12:14.300 We're ready to go.

00:12:14.940 Now, I have been on my share of job interviews in my life, as have many people.

00:12:23.280 I've never considered canceling the interview at the last minute, changing venues, demanding

00:12:31.120 that my prospective employer come to me rather than me to him, and then accusing him of running

00:12:38.680 from the truth when he fails to immediately hire me.

00:12:41.720 Now, that's an interesting strategy.

00:12:44.960 Maybe in my next job interview, I'll try it.

00:12:48.260 Finish the interview.

00:12:49.200 I come in dressed in purposefully inflammatory attire, and then at the end of the interview,

00:12:58.060 I say, so do I have the job?

00:12:59.980 Well, we'll call you.

00:13:01.520 We'll get back to you.

00:13:02.560 Stop running from the truth.

00:13:04.040 I know what you're doing.

00:13:05.260 You're running from the truth and from the people.

00:13:08.360 The people want me to have this job.

00:13:10.180 Now, give it to me.

00:13:13.940 I don't know.

00:13:14.740 Maybe I'll give that a try.

00:13:16.200 We'll see.

00:13:16.560 It does seem very much like the strategy of a man who doesn't actually want the job 0.97

00:13:24.940 that he's pretending to seek.

00:13:29.180 Consider how this whole thing might have gone if Kaepernick did want to play football.

00:13:35.040 Well, he would have scheduled his workout in the offseason, first of all, when a number

00:13:39.840 of teams are still making roster decisions, deciding who their quarterback's going to be.

00:13:43.480 And they would have had time, if they did offer him a contract, to integrate him into the offense.

00:13:49.540 He could learn the playbook and everything.

00:13:52.740 And then he would have shown up to the venue in a spirit of gratitude and eagerness.

00:13:58.280 He would not have worn a t-shirt advertising his martyr complex.

00:14:01.840 He would not have scolded the NFL in front of news cameras.

00:14:05.260 He would not have insisted on news cameras in the first place because they're not the people

00:14:09.940 that are going to be hiring him.

00:14:10.760 He's trying out to be a football quarterback, not to be a cable news talking head.

00:14:16.280 But if there were cameras there and he did talk to them, his post-workout comments would

00:14:20.900 have focused on, imagine this, football.

00:14:23.980 And he would have expressed a deep desire to make a roster and help a team win games.

00:14:29.040 And he would have said stuff like that.

00:14:30.380 I just want to help a team win games.

00:14:32.220 That kind of thing.

00:14:33.040 Those are the sort of things you say when you want to be on a football team.

00:14:38.100 Kaepernick said none of that because he's not interested in playing football. 0.95

00:14:41.620 He is a self-promoting fraud. 0.92

00:14:44.500 And this is his very profitable, I must admit, con. 0.99

00:14:49.440 This is a con. 0.98

00:14:50.420 He's a con man. 0.84

00:14:52.200 On a pragmatic level, you know, it's hard to argue with his logic.

00:14:55.440 If you put the ethics and the morality and honesty and all that aside, you're not worried

00:14:59.760 about that.

00:15:01.260 It makes sense because with his diminished skill set, his advanced age, at least by football

00:15:06.140 standards, he's 32.

00:15:07.340 Okay.

00:15:10.280 He could at best hope to be a kind of journeyman, second stringer, hopping from one roster to

00:15:16.940 the other, waiting for a starter to go down so we can fill in for a few games.

00:15:20.620 But kind of like Robert Griffin III right now, RG3, that's what he's doing.

00:15:25.440 Now, RG3 is three years younger than Kaepernick and was once more promising than Kaepernick was.

00:15:33.040 But now he earns a couple million dollars a year playing behind Lamar Jackson.

00:15:37.620 He's kind of Lamar Jackson's mentor and backup.

00:15:40.780 And he's good in that role because he's gotten control of his ego and he's trying to help the

00:15:46.180 team win.

00:15:46.720 And he's now, whereas before there may have been issues with this, but now he's kind of

00:15:50.960 humble and he's not trying to make it all about him.

00:15:56.440 And it's a nice way to make a living.

00:15:58.520 Look, if I can make a living, if I could get paid $2 million a year to be a backup quarterback

00:16:03.540 in the NFL, I would do it.

00:16:05.720 But it's not as rich or glamorous of a life as the life of a Nike-sponsored professional

00:16:13.680 martyr.

00:16:14.040 Kaepernick has carved out that niche for himself, the professional martyr, Nike sponsor.

00:16:21.860 He got a Nike sponsorship as a professional martyr.

00:16:26.180 No one's ever done that before.

00:16:28.420 And that is better for him.

00:16:31.600 I guess he's decided that he'd rather do that than accept the comparatively humble existence

00:16:37.700 of a comparatively low-paid benchwarmer in the NFL.

00:16:42.560 And that's why Kaep and his team of PR reps have made sure to stay in that zone between

00:16:50.120 trying for a job in the NFL and actually landing a job in the NFL.

00:16:54.800 They don't want to cross over into landing a job, so they just stay in that zone.

00:16:59.340 And they've discovered that that zone is filled with money and clout. 0.98

00:17:04.260 Now, with all this in mind, it would be incredibly stupid and counterproductive for any team to 0.99

00:17:11.000 offer Kaepernick a contract. 0.99

00:17:13.280 Of course, you can't put it past an organization like the Bengals or the Jets to do an incredibly 1.00

00:17:18.260 stupid and counterproductive thing. 1.00

00:17:19.780 That's all they do, after all. 1.00

00:17:21.180 But nonetheless, he is a washed-up, second-string quarterback who, in the very best-case scenario,

00:17:28.620 if he's able to reach the meager heights from which he fell in 2016, maybe could get you

00:17:35.320 2,000 yards and a dozen or so touchdowns at best.

00:17:41.100 Now, most backups in the league can get you that or better.

00:17:46.500 And the thing is, none of them are going to bring the media circus along with them.

00:17:52.300 None of them will threaten to turn your fan base against you.

00:17:56.180 None of them have the potential to rip your locker room into pieces the way that Kaepernick does.

00:18:03.040 And none of them are likely to call you a racist if you have to cut them, which eventually you will.

00:18:07.940 All backup quarterbacks basically inevitably get cut or retire.

00:18:12.180 So Kaepernick's production, even in the best-case possible scenario, could not possibly come close to compensating for the massive downside.

00:18:24.400 I'm not sure that even Tom Brady in his prime could compensate for a downside as steep as Kaep's. 1.00

00:18:32.200 And Kaepernick is no Tom Brady, to say the least.

00:18:35.720 This is not everyone talking about it's a conspiracy by the league.

00:18:39.060 They don't want Kaepernick.

00:18:40.040 It's not a conspiracy.

00:18:40.880 This is very simple.

00:18:42.500 If you're an NFL owner, why in God's name would you ever hire this guy?

00:18:50.220 He's given everything I just mentioned.

00:18:53.320 The very high likelihood fan base turns against you.

00:18:56.760 Locker room is ripped in half because some of the players are going to love him.

00:18:59.140 Some are going to hate him.

00:19:00.220 He makes it all about himself.

00:19:01.440 He's very me-focused.

00:19:02.800 He's not a team player.

00:19:03.960 And he wasn't a team player even back when he was in the league.

00:19:09.920 And you just absolutely know that if you cut him or if you bench him when he thinks he should be playing, he's going to start accusing you of racism and all this stuff.

00:19:20.020 Why would you ever bring that on yourself?

00:19:22.700 He's not good enough for that.

00:19:25.680 And even, I mean, take someone like Tim Tebow.

00:19:29.100 Tim Tebow is not a narcissist or a fraud the way that Kaepernick is.

00:19:33.440 But Tim Tebow washed out of the NFL and couldn't get a job after he left the Broncos and was on the Jets for a little bit.

00:19:45.480 And I think he had a stint on the Patriots.

00:19:48.180 And that was it.

00:19:49.720 And the reason is, now, he has the talent to be a backup quarterback.

00:19:54.040 He doesn't have first-string talent, but he has second-string talent for sure.

00:19:56.900 But he's had this whole media circus that follows him around, and that's not his fault.

00:20:04.440 He didn't intentionally cultivate that circus the way that Kaepernick does.

00:20:08.300 But nonetheless, he has it.

00:20:11.220 And so teams are saying, you know, I don't want this for a backup.

00:20:15.420 This isn't what you want in a backup.

00:20:18.140 And you bring Tebow in, and you're going to have all, you know, now all of a sudden half of the fans are going to be chanting for him to go on the field,

00:20:24.680 even if the starting quarterback is better than him.

00:20:27.480 He's like, why would we want this?

00:20:28.860 We don't want it.

00:20:34.280 Maybe, though, as I think about it, you know, a contract offer from the Bengals, from a team like the Bengals,

00:20:43.080 would be the most poetic result in all of this.

00:20:46.240 After all of his maneuvering to avoid an offer, because, like I said, he doesn't want one.

00:20:50.120 That's not what this is about.

00:20:50.940 But it would be pretty delicious to see him backed into a corner where he has to actually reject an offer,

00:20:57.620 because one is made to him, thereby revealing the whole charade for what it is.

00:21:02.780 Or he has to admit defeat and actually accept a fate worse than death, which is to be a Bengals quarterback.

00:21:10.780 As far as I see it, either of those options would be the most fitting and deserved end to the Colin Kaepernick saga.

00:21:18.040 But I guess we'll see what happens.

00:21:22.340 Okay, moving on.

00:21:25.520 Prince Andrew.

00:21:27.700 He was a good friend of the now-dead pedophile and sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein, who, of course, did not kill himself.

00:21:35.860 He hung out with Epstein a lot, stayed at his house, went on trips with him and so forth. 0.79

00:21:40.220 Now, he's also been accused, Prince Andrew has, by name specifically, of raping at least one woman.

00:21:49.600 And that accusation comes from the woman herself, Virginia Roberts.

00:21:53.220 She says that she was recruited as a child, a minor, was trafficked all around the world.

00:21:57.360 We know that this is exactly the kind of thing that Epstein does.

00:22:04.400 It's exactly the kind of thing that Epstein does.

00:22:08.980 And so this is the accusation that she made against Epstein and Prince Andrew.

00:22:15.780 And he was interviewed by the BBC.

00:22:18.420 Now, the way the BBC interview phrases this is that he was accused of having sex with Virginia Roberts.

00:22:28.940 But that's not the right term here.

00:22:31.080 The proper term is rape. 0.66

00:22:33.140 He was accused of raping Virginia Roberts, who was a minor and was sex trafficked. 0.93

00:22:39.480 Okay. 0.97

00:22:39.560 And she was raped, she says, by many men. 0.84

00:22:43.580 But Prince Andrew was one of them. 0.77

00:22:45.700 And this happened, she says, three times.

00:22:48.920 Now, Prince Andrew was finally interviewed by the BBC.

00:22:54.740 And it really is a sight to behold and to hear.

00:22:58.880 I don't think I've ever seen a denial that so clearly seems to confirm the accusation.

00:23:08.000 What I mean is I've never seen anyone deny something and look and sound so guilty as they deny it.

00:23:17.240 It really is incredible.

00:23:18.720 So first, here's Prince Andrew explaining that he hung out with a pedophile because of his great sense of honor.

00:23:27.300 Listen to this.

00:23:28.300 One of Epstein's accusers, Virginia Roberts, has made allegations against you.

00:23:33.960 She says she met you in 2001.

00:23:36.460 She says she dined with you, danced with you at Tramp Nightclub in London.

00:23:41.680 She went on to have sex with you in a house in Belgravia belonging to Gerlaine Maxwell, your friend. 0.78

00:23:48.340 Your response?

00:23:50.920 I have no recollection of ever meeting this lady.

00:23:54.820 None whatsoever.

00:23:56.060 You don't remember meeting her?

00:23:58.240 No.

00:23:58.340 But you were staying at the house of a convicted sex offender.

00:24:03.460 It was a convenient place to stay.

00:24:05.900 I mean, I've gone through this in my mind so many times.

00:24:09.240 At the end of the day, with the benefit of all the hindsight that one could have, it was definitely the wrong thing to do.

00:24:20.780 But at the time, I felt it was the honorable and right thing to do.

00:24:25.660 And I admit fully that my judgment was probably colored by my tendency to be too honorable, but that's just the way it is.

00:24:40.560 Yes, he stayed with a convicted pedophile at a convicted pedophile's house because he's too honorable.

00:24:50.420 I mean, this would be a terrible answer in a job interview when they ask you, what are your weaknesses, your greatest weakness, that question.

00:24:56.860 Now, my answer to that used to be the classic of, well, I work too hard.

00:25:01.620 You know, sometimes I forget to stop and smell the roses.

00:25:04.160 Just such a hard worker.

00:25:05.660 I'm just so focused.

00:25:07.500 Sometimes I'm just so focused.

00:25:08.600 I do such a great job.

00:25:09.540 You know, I do such a great job.

00:25:11.540 I'm so dedicated that, you know, I tend to enjoy life a little bit less than I would otherwise.

00:25:18.520 That has typically been my answer.

00:25:20.740 Everyone has a bad answer to that question.

00:25:23.260 This one would be really bad, even by those standards.

00:25:28.720 And except it's a lot worse because this isn't a job interview.

00:25:31.860 This is an interview with the BBC about rape accusations.

00:25:36.620 And this is what he comes up with.

00:25:39.060 And it gets worse, if you could believe it.

00:25:41.300 Watch this.

00:25:42.620 So you're absolutely sure that you're at home on the 10th of March.

00:25:46.040 She was very specific about that night.

00:25:48.620 She described dancing with you and you profusely sweating.

00:25:53.260 And that she went on to have baths, possibly. 0.99

00:25:57.340 There's a slight problem with the sweating.

00:26:01.220 Because I have a peculiar medical condition, which is that I don't sweat.

00:26:09.160 Or I didn't sweat at the time.

00:26:10.760 And that was actually, yes, I didn't sweat at the time because I had suffered what I would describe as an overdose of adrenaline in the Falklands War when I was shot at.

00:26:22.940 And I simply, it was almost impossible for me to sweat.

00:26:29.860 And it's only because I have done a number of things in the recent past that I'm starting to be able to do that again.

00:26:37.660 So I'm afraid to say that there's a medical condition that says that I didn't do it.

00:26:41.600 So therefore.

00:26:41.880 Yeah.

00:26:46.840 He remembers.

00:26:50.200 Listen, he remembers not sweating.

00:26:53.520 He remembers not sweating.

00:26:56.240 He remembers that at the time when this didn't happen.

00:27:00.520 He didn't sweat.

00:27:02.680 He remembers not sweating as the thing did not occur.

00:27:07.340 You see?

00:27:08.260 It was a medical condition.

00:27:09.980 So he can look at his calendar and say, oh, no.

00:27:15.320 What day was that?

00:27:16.420 Was that the 16th of April?

00:27:19.160 Let me check my, yeah.

00:27:20.900 No, it says right here I didn't sweat that day.

00:27:22.720 Yeah, that was a non-sweating day.

00:27:24.060 Yeah, I've got my sweat schedule right here.

00:27:27.400 My sweatshull, I call it.

00:27:30.100 And I keep track of all the days.

00:27:31.640 Now, I did sweat the day before.

00:27:33.500 On the day before, between 3 p.m. and 5 p.m., I did a little bit of sweating.

00:27:38.420 Picked up some sweating about 8 p.m. to 8.30.

00:27:41.360 But then I didn't sweat again for another three and a half days.

00:27:45.180 This is what he's trying to say.

00:27:48.400 It is, I mean, it's stunning.

00:27:52.520 And this is the kind of excuse that someone like Prince Andrew can make.

00:27:59.180 Now, that's not going to work for an everyday peasant like me or you.

00:28:05.240 If we went with the, I know I didn't do it because I didn't sweat.

00:28:09.880 If the brow doesn't drip, you must acquit.

00:28:13.600 If you or I tried to go with that, it's not going to work.

00:28:16.380 But Prince Andrew, yeah, he can say that. 0.82

00:28:19.220 His excuses are, I hung out with a pedophile because I'm just too honorable.

00:28:23.800 I'm such an honorable guy.

00:28:25.800 And you know that I didn't do this thing I'm accused of because I also don't sweat.

00:28:30.680 I am an honorable, non-sweaty person.

00:28:36.660 This is what you get now.

00:28:38.260 Why does the royal family exist?

00:28:40.040 This is why. 1.00

00:28:40.640 A gaggle of crooks and leeches. 1.00

00:28:44.320 Their only job is to be rich and live in a fancy house. 1.00

00:28:48.720 What's the point?

00:28:49.940 And why do Americans love these people?

00:28:51.480 I've never understood that.

00:28:52.400 We fought a war to be rid of them.

00:28:55.220 And now we buy tabloid magazines.

00:28:57.780 Oh, it says here that Prince Harry has athlete's foot.

00:29:00.300 Wow.

00:29:01.360 Did you see this?

00:29:03.900 I don't get it.

00:29:06.020 And listen, I understand tradition.

00:29:08.720 When I talk about this, people always say, it's tradition.

00:29:11.500 Aren't you a traditionalist?

00:29:13.580 Don't you believe in tradition?

00:29:14.780 I believe in tradition.

00:29:15.580 I think it's great to preserve tradition.

00:29:17.000 But I think there are two mistakes that people often make with respect to tradition.

00:29:23.960 One is to assume that something is bad and archaic and backwards and barbaric and primitive just because it's a tradition.

00:29:33.280 And so to try to overturn traditions simply because they are traditions.

00:29:37.560 So that's a big mistake that people make in this culture, especially.

00:29:41.600 And I'm totally against that.

00:29:43.000 But then on the other end of that extreme, there's the mistake of thinking that everything that is a tradition should just be preserved simply because it's a tradition.

00:29:53.400 Even if it no longer serves the purpose it once served, even if it's now extremely counterproductive, even if it's, you know, even if it's sort of devoid of all the meaning it once held, just preserve traditions at all costs simply because they're traditions.

00:30:07.800 And, you know, if people a long time ago did something and they can continue doing it, then we should keep doing that same thing just because those people did it.

00:30:16.060 I think that's also the wrong approach.

00:30:18.580 I think we should respect tradition.

00:30:21.340 We should take tradition seriously so that if our ancestor did have a tradition, we should at least we should take that seriously.

00:30:29.520 We should look at it and think, well, there's a reason why they did this.

00:30:31.900 And we shouldn't just toss it out, toss it on the trash heap without thinking.

00:30:36.200 We shouldn't do that.

00:30:38.960 But the royal family now is just, you know, it's it's an embarrassment.

00:30:45.520 And especially when you add this Epstein thing into it.

00:30:51.340 But it's not my concern because I'm not British.

00:30:54.540 So, as I said, we fought a war so that we didn't have to deal with these people.

00:30:59.220 Of course, then we came over here and now we've sort of turned our own political class into their own form of royalty.

00:31:04.700 So I guess we don't have a lot of room, a lot of room to judge.

00:31:09.240 By the way, here's a picture of Prince Andrew and Virginia Roberts.

00:31:12.100 It says he never met her, but here's here he is with her.

00:31:17.220 Now, he's got an explanation for that or a denial anyway, says that it can't be him.

00:31:21.100 It's not him.

00:31:22.900 This must be some kind of trick or sorcery because he says he would never show that kind of affection in public.

00:31:29.880 And he always wears a suit and tie.

00:31:31.560 So that guy, you know, that guy in that picture, it's not him.

00:31:33.980 It looks like him. 0.99

00:31:35.380 That guy is a sweaty slob. 1.00

00:31:36.760 That guy is a sweaty, dishonorable, disgusting slob, which Prince Andrew definitely isn't, he says. 1.00

00:31:46.620 All right. 0.99

00:31:49.440 Before we get to emails, let's take a quick break.

00:31:54.720 And well, I'm not even going to set this up.

00:31:56.540 Look at this.

00:32:06.760 That's that's like the Macarena, but somehow whiter.

00:32:15.920 This thing they do now, this is this is a second video we've seen.

00:32:19.220 This is the second disturbing footage we've seen of this.

00:32:23.020 I don't even want to call it a dance.

00:32:25.240 It's like if the Macarena and the YMCA dance had a baby.

00:32:29.400 And then that baby grew up and had a baby with the chicken dance.

00:32:34.660 And that's you end up with this thing that they do in Pete Buttigieg's campaign.

00:32:42.780 Just if you needed more reasons not to vote for the guy, I think that's probably all the reason you need.

00:32:48.220 And there are a lot of other good ones, too.

00:32:49.920 But we don't even need to get past that.

00:32:53.320 OK, we're going to go to emails.

00:32:54.480 Now, I did have there's this speaking of disturbing and creepy, there's this legitimately disturbing and creepy Sprite ad.

00:33:04.280 Where Sprite is trying to because this is what this is what companies do now with their advertisements, trying to push delusion and confusion onto kids and onto the culture.

00:33:18.460 But I think I'm going to save this discussion because it deserves a longer discussion, I think not at the very end of the show.

00:33:24.340 So I'm going to save that for tomorrow.

00:33:25.620 We'll talk about that tomorrow.

00:33:27.220 And instead, we'll go right to emails.

00:33:29.120 MattWallShow at gmail.com.

00:33:30.620 MattWallShow at gmail.com is the email.

00:33:33.120 This is from Dale says, hello, Matt.

00:33:34.880 Love your show and your witty, sarcastic humor on the current ridiculousness this world produces.

00:33:38.960 Helps me laugh through this craziness and realize life really isn't that serious.

00:33:43.260 However, I'm coming to you for advice on a very serious matter.

00:33:46.100 I want to ask my girlfriend for her hand in marriage, but I don't know if she feels the same way that I do.

00:33:50.600 So she's brought it up before and mentioned what kind of wedding she wants.

00:33:55.500 But does that mean she's wanting to get married?

00:33:58.060 Please help me.

00:33:59.880 Dale, she's brought up marriage to you and told you what kind of wedding she wants.

00:34:07.160 She wants to get married. 0.98

00:34:08.640 Yes, 100%.

00:34:09.600 I, so the only thing that could make it more obvious, and maybe she's already done this, but if she's given you ring sizes, when you get to the, to her bringing up her ring size casually.

00:34:23.980 Hey, by the way, just, just so you know, my, my, I'm a, my ring is a size seven.

00:34:27.880 Um, in case you were wondering, uh, is that how ring sizes work?

00:34:33.820 Is there a ring size?

00:34:34.700 I forget.

00:34:35.320 It's been a while.

00:34:36.680 Anyway, that's the only thing that when, when she does that, that's the equivalent of, you know, one of those banners that the, that a helicopter flies across the beach.

00:34:45.540 When you're at the beach and there's a big helicopter advertising a deal at the car dealership or something.

00:34:50.400 That's the equivalent of that.

00:34:51.500 If she put it on a, please propose to me.

00:34:53.560 Um, so she's not quite there, but she's almost there.

00:34:57.260 And so, yes, get that ring, make it happen, cabin.

00:35:01.640 Um, and congrats in advance on your pending nuptials.

00:35:04.840 God bless.

00:35:05.640 This is from John.

00:35:06.560 Matt, when you move your head a certain way, the globe in the back makes it look like you have a man bun.

00:35:11.540 Just thought you should know.

00:35:14.200 The globe in the back.

00:35:16.620 Um, let me see.

00:35:20.560 Okay.

00:35:21.060 Yeah, I could see that.

00:35:22.480 I could see the man.

00:35:23.560 Actually, not a bad look.

00:35:25.380 See, there's my man, but that's what it would look like if I had a man bun.

00:35:29.200 Not too bad.

00:35:31.800 The people hate on the man bun, but maybe, uh, maybe it works for some people.

00:35:35.600 Who would have thought?

00:35:37.400 All right.

00:35:37.840 Oh, you could also see my, um, back there.

00:35:40.220 That's my artwork that my, my daughter did her portrait of me, which I've displayed proudly on my bookshelf there.

00:35:49.640 She gets her artistic talent.

00:35:51.200 Not from me.

00:35:51.960 I can tell you that.

00:35:52.480 Um, what else here?

00:35:55.200 This is from Drew says, Mr. Walsh, as a child, my mother would give us green beans and ketchup.

00:36:00.720 I remember the dish fondly and taught, uh, it taught me to eat my greens.

00:36:05.340 I occasionally use ketchup with fries and somewhat agree with your point.

00:36:09.240 The question is, is there an acceptable way to use ketchup that does not insult the dish in which it is used?

00:36:15.060 Drew, I hate to be the one to tell you this, but your mother was trying to poison you.

00:36:20.000 Call the police.

00:36:20.760 It's not too late.

00:36:22.600 Ketchup on green beans is an insult.

00:36:24.960 You know, if you're going to, I don't know how she prepared the green beans, but if you want to season green beans, the classic salt and pepper will do just fine.

00:36:36.820 You want to throw a little bit of garlic powder, some Parmesan on there.

00:36:39.640 I'm not going to have a problem with that ketchup.

00:36:43.220 There's no place for ketchup on green beans.

00:36:44.940 There's no place for ketchup period on any dish.

00:36:47.800 Because as I said, if you're putting ketchup on your fries, it means your, your fries were poorly seasoned.

00:36:55.840 If you're putting ketchup on your hamburger, uh, it means that, uh, it means that number one, the hamburger was poorly cooked and poorly seasoned.

00:37:05.900 And also, apparently you don't have access to any of the other sauces or condiments that would be acceptable on a hamburger.

00:37:12.920 If you want to go mayonnaise, that's fine.

00:37:16.080 You want to go mustard.

00:37:16.980 You want to go, uh, you want to go bar, any of the various times, types of barbecue sauce.

00:37:25.300 There's no reason for ketchup.

00:37:27.580 Once you get above the age of about 12.

00:37:31.600 Um, let's see.

00:37:33.260 All my, all my emails are basically about food, which I'm not complaining about.

00:37:38.020 This is from Suzanne says, hi, Matt.

00:37:39.620 I have enjoyed reading your insightful commentary and wit for several years and was pleased to hear that you joined the Daily Wire team.

00:37:44.340 Your podcasts are a highlight of my weekly listening experience.

00:37:48.320 And while I generally concur with most of your opinions, I have on occasion disagreed, such as with your take on internal household temperatures, but hadn't felt the need to write.

00:37:55.200 After laughing at your incredulity concerning chili and cinnamon rolls, however, I thought it important to educate you on the culinary virtue of such a combination.

00:38:03.400 Let me preface with this.

00:38:04.320 I'm a Missouri girl and had never had chili with anything other than crackers.

00:38:07.760 My husband, who hails from Kansas, grew up with chili and cinnamon rolls, served in school back when school kitchen ladies actually cooked good homemade food.

00:38:16.060 Well, apparently not, Suzanne, if they're serving cinnamon rolls and chili.

00:38:20.600 Eventually, I learned to make exceptional cinnamon rolls, which I baked several times a year and always when I make chili.

00:38:25.900 As we say in our household, it's against the law to serve chili without cinnamon rolls.

00:38:28.960 That's the exact, I think the truth is the exact opposite of that, actually.

00:38:34.680 And we've converted several guests to this belief as well.

00:38:37.720 They are simply a complementary combination of savory and sweet, like peanut butter and jelly, sea salt and caramel, or popcorn and candy.

00:38:43.880 The biggest difference is one bite typically wouldn't contain both, except by those who are extremely adventurous.

00:38:48.580 Depending on preference, they can either be eaten by alternating bites, as one would eat a piece of garlic toast with an Italian dish,

00:38:55.560 or most popularly, by eating the savory chili as the meal and finishing with the sweet rolls as dessert.

00:39:03.000 This brings a hearty cold-weather meal to a satisfying close and agreed upon by more than Midwesterners.

00:39:08.460 I don't know what else to say on this.

00:39:14.460 I've already just, I've already communicated my disgust, my moral outrage about chili with cinnamon rolls.

00:39:24.260 And I've gotten so many emails from people defending this abomination before God.

00:39:29.440 And I also want to make it clear, because a lot of these emails are making straw men of my position.

00:39:34.620 There have been a lot of emails defending cinnamon rolls in principle.

00:39:38.460 I don't have any issue with cinnamon rolls.

00:39:40.920 Of course I enjoy cinnamon rolls.

00:39:42.580 Who doesn't?

00:39:43.160 I'm an American.

00:39:44.000 Okay, I'm not a psychopath.

00:39:46.420 But I'll have a cinnamon roll with breakfast.

00:39:49.960 Okay?

00:39:50.860 That's the proper time.

00:39:51.760 Or you want to have it as, you know, you can have it really any time of day as its own thing.

00:39:56.040 If you're walking through the airport and you pass by a Cinnabon,

00:40:00.600 and you feel like hating yourself and being depressed,

00:40:04.440 and having a stomachache on the plane, then have a Cinnabon.

00:40:08.460 Go for it.

00:40:09.880 All I'm saying is that the pear with chili is,

00:40:12.580 it's not just that it's a bad culinary choice.

00:40:20.540 What I am proposing is that it is ethically and morally problematic.

00:40:26.520 And I think if you looked in the Bible, and I don't have time to quote it right now,

00:40:32.660 but I'm pretty sure if you looked in the Bible, you would find that you'd find some backup on this point.

00:40:38.480 Finally, this is from, well, this is, okay.

00:40:43.140 This is from Amanda.

00:40:44.160 It says,

00:40:44.440 You have been discussing strange food pairings, and I thought I'd share mine.

00:40:48.240 My grandfather grew up in Philly and taught us about the wonderful pairing of peanut butter and mayonnaise.

00:40:53.300 I grew up eating peanut butter, mayonnaise, and tomato sandwiches.

00:41:00.020 If we were feeling extra fancy, we'd throw some onions on those suckers. 0.83

00:41:03.680 Yum.

00:41:05.460 We'd also eat cinnamon rolls with our chili as a side.

00:41:09.260 But to dunk,

00:41:12.060 Monte Cristo's are also something we enjoy here in Colorado.

00:41:17.180 Peanut butter, mayonnaise,

00:41:18.700 tomato, and onion.

00:41:23.500 I think I've just lost the will to live.

00:41:27.080 I don't even want to,

00:41:28.760 this, this,

00:41:29.740 the description of that dish makes me long for the cold embrace of death.

00:41:35.660 It makes me think that human civilization itself was a mistake.

00:41:42.020 This is,

00:41:43.500 my God.

00:41:46.180 My God have mercy on us.

00:41:47.460 God have mercy on us all.

00:41:50.600 As if I needed more reasons to hate Philadelphia.

00:41:53.800 Now I've got another one.

00:41:55.540 Add it to the list.

00:41:58.640 I was going to read like five other emails,

00:42:00.320 but I'm too nauseated to continue.

00:42:01.620 So we will end the show there.

00:42:03.260 You just ruined the whole show, Amanda.

00:42:04.860 I hope you're proud of yourself.

00:42:07.760 And that's it then.

00:42:09.380 Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - November 18, 2019

Ep. 373 - The Kaepernick Con

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