The Matt Walsh Show - November 22, 2019


Ep. 377 - Myles Garrett Pulls A Smollett?


Episode Stats

Length

41 minutes

Words per Minute

171.45526

Word Count

7,157

Sentence Count

467

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary


Transcript

00:00:00.000 So do you remember that fight in the Browns-Steelers game?
00:00:04.560 Miles Garrett versus Mason Rudolph.
00:00:07.060 Garrett tears Rudolph's helmet off and smacks him with it.
00:00:11.440 Well, let's relive the moment just really briefly so we can talk about it.
00:00:15.420 Watch this.
00:00:24.780 Well, he tackled Rudolph.
00:00:26.460 Rudolph didn't like the way that he was tackled.
00:00:28.520 Oh, gosh.
00:00:30.000 Oh, man.
00:00:31.320 Oh.
00:00:33.020 Oh, my goodness.
00:00:44.620 Yes, memories.
00:00:46.600 The memories.
00:00:48.160 Well, Garrett got suspended indefinitely, at least for the year, if not longer.
00:00:52.720 And that was a week ago that it happened.
00:00:55.520 The week goes by.
00:00:57.300 And the most frustrating thing about what happens next is that it's just so utterly predictable.
00:01:03.800 You knew it was happening.
00:01:05.960 You knew it was going to happen.
00:01:07.300 We all saw it coming.
00:01:08.320 So Garrett now, Miles Garrett, the aggressor in the situation, the guy that tore the helmet off and hit somebody else with it, he now, in an effort to excuse his actions and to deflect blame and to get his suspension overturned or at least minimized, he now says that Mason Rudolph used a racial slur towards him.
00:01:26.860 Of course, right?
00:01:27.860 Of course, right?
00:01:28.820 That's just, of course.
00:01:30.620 Nobody mentioned anything about a racial slur before, but now the claim comes out that, oh, by the way, a week later, but yeah, he said racial slur, just so you know.
00:01:39.680 First of all, I think that as people have been talking about this, whether or not it's true or whatever, this hasn't been stipulated enough.
00:01:50.660 But even if it was true, okay, even if Mason Rudolph really did call Miles Garrett a racial slur, that would not in any way justify ripping his helmet off and beating him in the head with it.
00:02:06.220 I would hope we could all agree with that, but apparently we can't because people are talking about this issue as if the only thing that matters is whether or not it's true that Mason Rudolph said that.
00:02:20.960 When really, even if he said it, that doesn't do much to negate the fact that Miles Garrett ripped a guy's head off and hit him in the head with it and could have caused brain damage or worse.
00:02:34.180 So it's kind of like that.
00:02:35.540 Maybe you saw that video of, it was viral a few weeks ago of a woman, older woman getting body slammed in the parking lot of a Popeye's by a Popeye's employee.
00:02:47.340 And the claim that I saw online is that the woman used a racial slur towards that guy.
00:02:52.980 There was a guy body slamming her.
00:02:55.300 I have no idea if that's true or not.
00:02:56.960 I never looked into that story.
00:02:58.380 It doesn't really matter.
00:02:59.120 My point is people were sharing the video, number one, assuming that she used the racial slur, and then number two, assuming that it therefore justifies an older, an old woman being body slammed on the pavement.
00:03:13.720 But even if she, it's bad if she used the racial slur, that doesn't mean you can body slam her and potentially kill her.
00:03:20.900 I mean, just, can't we agree with that?
00:03:24.000 That there is no, there is no, no word or insult or anything that could be said that would justify physical assault, especially to the point of potentially killing somebody.
00:03:39.680 You would hope we could agree with that, but apparently we can't.
00:03:44.440 Second thing though, there is, there is no evidence that, uh, Rudolph said any such thing.
00:03:53.660 The, the NFL looked into it.
00:03:55.600 They found no evidence.
00:03:57.380 Miles Garrett's own teammates said they never heard it or heard about it until just now.
00:04:02.840 Rudolph's teammates, um, Rudolph's teammates never heard it or heard about it.
00:04:06.900 So there's a bunch of people around there, you know, while this play is going on and, uh, you've got 22 guys on the field.
00:04:16.800 None of them heard it.
00:04:18.720 And it's not just that they didn't hear the slur.
00:04:20.920 It's that Garrett's own teammates, when they pulled Garrett off, brought him to the sideline later in the locker room.
00:04:28.460 He apparently never mentioned this to anybody.
00:04:30.420 He never said, Hey, that, that, that guy called me X, Y, Z.
00:04:33.840 You, you'd think he would have, that would have been one of the first things he said, especially when you're, you know, they're in the middle of fighting and he's enraged and you pull them off.
00:04:41.340 The guy wouldn't, he's saying things.
00:04:43.860 Wouldn't he be saying something like he called me this?
00:04:48.000 In fact, Garrett himself was interviewed by the media immediately after it happened.
00:04:52.700 And, uh, he didn't say anything about this.
00:04:54.740 He had, he's talking to cameras, news cameras.
00:04:57.320 This was after the fact, perfect opportunity for him to do some damage control and, uh, and, and say, well, this is what he said to me.
00:05:06.440 Didn't say that.
00:05:08.080 So nobody heard it.
00:05:09.360 Nobody heard Garrett mention it.
00:05:11.480 Garrett himself didn't mention it.
00:05:13.540 And all the cameras and mics all over the field, apparently didn't pick it up.
00:05:17.940 Um, plus there's been no indication that I'm aware of that Rudolph has a history of using that word.
00:05:23.540 He's, he's, he's, Rudolph's been playing football for years, has a lot of black teammates.
00:05:28.600 He's been presumably tackled by black players many times throughout his football life.
00:05:34.220 We can assume, uh, and as far as we know, he's never used a racial slur before.
00:05:39.980 So why would he all of a sudden start using it now?
00:05:44.760 All of these factors just make it impossible to believe, um, or at least very hard to believe.
00:05:50.600 So it seems like we've got a Jussie Smollett in cleats here, uh, situation.
00:05:56.160 And I'll tell you this, if Garrett lied about this and slandered the man right after trying to cross, cause brain damage.
00:06:05.820 So first he rips his helmet off and beats him with it.
00:06:07.640 And then later, week later lies about it, tries to permanently damage his reputation.
00:06:12.780 Then he needs to be sued, not just for physical assault, but also for slander.
00:06:16.600 And he also needs to be suspended from the league for another year.
00:06:19.800 So put a tack another year on to however long this suspension was supposed to be, because that's actually worse than the original physical assault.
00:06:27.420 When you think about the long-term damage to someone's career reputation, you could do by making something like that up.
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00:08:09.560 Okay, very briefly, Tesla interviewed this, or unveiled, I should say.
00:08:15.340 Tesla unveiled this new thing called the Cybertruck.
00:08:19.400 This is their new truck.
00:08:21.240 And the Cybertruck is supposed to have, along with various other features, it's supposed
00:08:27.060 to have unbreakable armored glass for some reason.
00:08:31.260 And, but they tested the armored glass at the unveiling, and it didn't go so well.
00:08:35.980 Watch this.
00:08:36.380 Okay, but really the bigger issue here is that this is the ugliest damn truck I've ever seen
00:08:51.640 in my life.
00:08:52.500 It looks like what my three-year-old would come up with if you asked him to draw a truck.
00:08:58.840 That's what he would draw.
00:09:00.060 It looks like an early prototype of the Batmobile in the Dark Knight, the Tumblr Batmobile thing.
00:09:09.620 It looks like that, and I don't mean that as a compliment.
00:09:12.020 And I'm really, you know, I'm watching this and seeing the Cybertruck, because when you
00:09:17.080 hear Cybertruck, you're thinking of something futuristic, something really cool.
00:09:22.420 And you see it, and you're disappointed.
00:09:25.760 And I'm just disappointed in general, because it's the year 2019, and guys like Elon Musk
00:09:31.480 are supposed to be inventing hovercrafts and, like, cars that shoot laser beams and stuff.
00:09:39.680 That's what, we're supposed to have time machines in our garages.
00:09:44.480 Time machines are supposed to be everyday items at this point in the year 2019.
00:09:48.760 And instead, this is what we get.
00:09:52.620 This is the vehicle of the future.
00:09:54.600 This is something that looks like it was pasted together from refrigerator boxes and then painted
00:09:58.760 silver.
00:09:59.600 This is our future.
00:10:01.760 It really is disappointing.
00:10:03.520 I mean, if you had to, back in the 70s and 80s, when they were thinking about the year 2020,
00:10:09.780 they were thinking hoverboards, hovercrafts, flying vehicles everywhere.
00:10:14.780 Um, everyone has a robot slave in their home.
00:10:19.080 That's what they're thinking.
00:10:21.320 Aliens have long since visited.
00:10:23.820 We're cruising across the galaxy.
00:10:27.700 And nope, nothing.
00:10:30.000 It's just, it's just this.
00:10:32.760 All right.
00:10:33.660 Um, Ann Coulter spoke at Berkeley a few nights ago, and the students reacted exactly as you
00:10:39.820 would think they would.
00:10:40.840 Mobs and protests and everything.
00:10:42.300 But here's one video of a young woman trying to walk to the talk.
00:10:48.720 She's trying to get to the speech where Ann Coulter is talking.
00:10:52.020 And she meets a mob.
00:10:54.040 And the mob steals her ticket, screams in her face, harasses her, and won't let her pass.
00:10:59.300 Watch.
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00:11:16.960 She got to he worked here.
00:11:21.620 She gave it to him, and he just
00:11:22.860 Wow!
00:11:23.400 Go home!
00:11:23.960 Go home!
00:11:24.340 Every time I see these videos, it just becomes, it becomes clear to me that the rule of law is apparently dead.
00:11:33.860 The law doesn't matter.
00:11:35.760 These people are allowed to do this.
00:11:37.880 Every week we see this stuff.
00:11:40.540 Why is it every week we get another video of leftist rage mobs assaulting and harassing people,
00:11:48.020 whether they're shutting down traffic or they're not letting people pass or whatever, vandalizing?
00:11:54.340 And yet no police arrest them.
00:11:58.520 When's the last time you saw a video like this and then you saw the police show up and arrest a bunch of people and throw them in the paddy wagon?
00:12:06.520 When's the last time?
00:12:07.180 It never happens.
00:12:09.720 They're just allowed to do what they want.
00:12:12.320 There should be 50 people arrested at every one of these events.
00:12:16.640 The cops should be there in force.
00:12:18.580 And the minute you see someone break the law, like for instance, stealing their ticket from them, that's theft.
00:12:24.700 Okay?
00:12:25.860 Haul them away.
00:12:27.100 Put them in jail.
00:12:28.100 They committed a crime.
00:12:29.260 What do you, let's take control again.
00:12:32.700 Have some rule of law.
00:12:36.740 Apparently now, I didn't get the memo, but apparently if you get together with a big enough group of people,
00:12:44.760 the law doesn't matter.
00:12:47.260 You can do whatever you want.
00:12:51.220 So if you want to get together, it doesn't even need to be that big of a group.
00:12:54.100 I mean, you get together with 10 people and just block the traffic in D.C.
00:12:59.220 And they'll just let you do it.
00:13:01.420 It's a couple weeks ago, right?
00:13:02.940 You get a handful of people sitting in the middle of the road to traffic in Washington, D.C.
00:13:08.700 And that's it.
00:13:09.720 You can just do it, I guess.
00:13:10.720 No one's going to stop you.
00:13:11.560 It's crazy.
00:13:17.060 There should be, you could put a stop to this stuff.
00:13:19.800 Just do mass arrests.
00:13:21.360 Because the moment you see this, and they're harassing people, not letting them pass,
00:13:26.260 this is not free speech.
00:13:28.740 This is not a protest.
00:13:30.880 Okay?
00:13:31.140 This is a crime happening.
00:13:33.140 These people are part of a mob, not a protest.
00:13:36.260 And so just start arresting everybody.
00:13:39.520 And you could put a stop to this stuff pretty quickly.
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00:14:24.220 I want to mention this too.
00:14:25.380 We've been talking about the issue with the locker rooms of the school in Illinois.
00:14:28.920 The school board voting to allow boys into the girls' locker room,
00:14:32.060 thereby putting girls in danger, obliterating their privacy.
00:14:35.640 Well, the video I've played and talked about plenty,
00:14:42.160 the video of the biological male celebrating the decision, gloating,
00:14:45.920 and then the girl crying, expressing her worries about now the fact that she's not going to have privacy when she gets changed.
00:14:50.660 That video was shared by someone on Twitter, someone who's on the side of the boy, okay?
00:14:57.660 Someone who thinks that the boy has a right to the women's locker room.
00:15:01.520 And this person's tweet about the video, the only reason I'm mentioning it, the reason I noticed it,
00:15:07.020 is their tweet about the video in support of the boy got over 100,000 likes.
00:15:13.860 100,000, okay?
00:15:15.380 Over 100,000 people saw this and agreed with him that, yeah, I'm on the boy's side.
00:15:21.300 And I just, here's what he says about the video, and specifically about the girl crying about losing her privacy rights.
00:15:29.420 He says, when we desegregated bathrooms, some white girls also held back tears because a black woman might see them naked too.
00:15:38.920 And that's it, that's his argument.
00:15:40.200 So, what we have here is someone, and again, over 100,000 people like this argument.
00:15:45.140 We have someone accusing a young girl of bigotry because she doesn't want to be naked around boys.
00:15:53.200 Think about that.
00:15:54.540 Think about how creepy and perverse that is.
00:15:57.120 Think about what a creepy, weird person you have to be to see it like that.
00:16:04.940 To actually get angry at a young girl, a minor, a child, because she doesn't want to be naked around a boy.
00:16:11.280 So, it's not even just that you're, you think you're trying to, it's not even just that you support this, but you're actually mad at her for not wanting to be naked around a boy.
00:16:22.700 Think about that.
00:16:24.140 And the argument he makes, and this is a popular argument, this is something that, this is an argument that the LGBT camp, they're always doing this.
00:16:34.120 They're always comparing themselves to, to the plight of segregated black Americans, or even, you know, going back to slavery times and trying to draw these comparisons.
00:16:46.040 And it's so just disrespectful and degrading.
00:16:50.820 And it's also idiotic.
00:16:52.620 Because the point here is that black people have a right to the same accommodations as white people.
00:16:59.180 Okay?
00:16:59.700 That's the whole point with civil rights and desegregation.
00:17:04.780 But, so, yes, we all agree with that.
00:17:09.760 That doesn't mean that boys have a right to access the same locker rooms as girls.
00:17:16.620 You see, it's not hard to understand.
00:17:19.600 There's a distinction there.
00:17:20.640 So, it is very possible to argue that black people have a right to the same accommodations as white people, without also arguing that biological boys have a right to get naked in front of girls.
00:17:33.920 In fact, the two issues have nothing to do with one another at all.
00:17:37.860 They're not remotely similar.
00:17:39.880 Another way of putting it is, you can disagree with racial segregation, while still agreeing with other forms of segregation that have nothing to do with race whatsoever.
00:17:58.000 And so, segregating locker rooms and separating boys and girls, that's segregation, yes.
00:18:02.420 Got nothing to do with race.
00:18:03.980 This form of segregation over here, perfectly acceptable and good and the right thing to do.
00:18:08.360 By the way, I started going back and forth with this guy, started arguing with him, and finally he pulls out a study.
00:18:20.260 And you know how I love it when people try to win arguments by pulling out studies.
00:18:23.640 Oh, yeah? Well, I've got a study that says this.
00:18:27.820 And I just want to say this is a great example of how people, and this is sort of a hobby horse of mine now,
00:18:33.420 is combating the fallacious use of studies, which I think is an epidemic now online,
00:18:39.660 that people, they just, to try to win an argument, they Google, they try to find a headline about a study that proves their point.
00:18:46.700 Don't even read the study.
00:18:48.320 And then they just say, see, here's a study, I win.
00:18:51.120 As if it proves anything.
00:18:54.220 As if it at all proves your point.
00:18:56.240 Because you were able to Google and cherry pick and find a headline about a study that seems to sort of support you.
00:19:01.880 It means nothing.
00:19:02.760 Okay?
00:19:03.240 So he sends me a screenshot.
00:19:05.740 A screenshot, not a link.
00:19:07.840 Okay?
00:19:08.140 That's the red flag.
00:19:09.160 Big red flag here.
00:19:11.080 Sends me a screenshot of a headline from NBC News.
00:19:14.120 And the headline is, trans teens face higher sexual assault risk when schools restrict bathrooms, study finds.
00:19:22.260 More than one in four of transgender and non-binary students surveyed reported being sexually assaulted in the previous 12 months.
00:19:30.040 Okay.
00:19:31.400 Now, the obvious insinuation here, and the reason why this guy was, I think it's a guy,
00:19:39.580 the reason why this person was presenting this to me is because the implication is that making a, quote, trans girl,
00:19:50.660 that is a biological girl that identifies, a biological boy who identifies as a girl,
00:19:54.780 making that individual use the boy's facilities with his other biological counterparts,
00:20:03.020 that somehow puts him at risk for sexual assault.
00:20:06.240 And so what you're meant to take from this headline, what this guy on Twitter and also what NBC News wants you to take from the headline,
00:20:13.900 is that apparently there's an epidemic of trans people, of, quote, trans girls, again, biological.
00:20:22.620 I'm only using this terminology just for the sake of argument to talk about this study.
00:20:25.860 Anyway, there's a, there's a, there's a, what you, what they want us to take from this is that there's an epidemic of, quote, unquote, trans girls getting sexually assaulted in the boys' rooms,
00:20:36.880 which is why we need to put them into the girls' rooms.
00:20:39.360 That's what we're meant to take from this.
00:20:42.580 One in four.
00:20:44.300 Wow.
00:20:44.660 Now, here's the thing.
00:20:47.840 Even if that were true, it still would not justify putting boys into the girls' room.
00:20:57.260 Because even if you could prove that we have some real concern about the safety of these individuals in the boys' room,
00:21:04.960 that doesn't mean we sacrifice the safety and security of the girls.
00:21:08.840 It doesn't mean we just, we put them up on the altar for sacrifice.
00:21:12.360 No, that would be an argument for giving them a separate facility and saying, okay, now you can go use this other bathroom over here and you can have privacy, you can be by yourself.
00:21:23.140 In fact, the school that we're talking about in, in, in Illinois, that's what they were doing.
00:21:29.020 They were giving the trans students a separate privacy area.
00:21:33.720 No risk of sexual assault there.
00:21:35.160 You're the only one in it, in it, right?
00:21:37.860 So that would be an argument for that.
00:21:39.760 But that's not the argument that the left is making.
00:21:44.140 They're saying, no, no, no, don't give them their own private area.
00:21:46.580 Put them in with the girls.
00:21:49.140 So it's actually got nothing to do with sexual assault at all.
00:21:53.180 But, of course, you know, and this is what you, when you, when you see a headline like this, your, your, your, your BS detector has to be going haywire.
00:22:02.420 You're thinking, what, one in four, what?
00:22:06.380 You're telling me one in four of trans students in the men's, in the boys' bathroom and locker room are getting sexually assaulted?
00:22:12.800 What?
00:22:13.500 That sounds crazy.
00:22:14.540 There's no way that's true.
00:22:16.100 And so then I went and Googled it, clicked on it.
00:22:18.720 And sure enough, it is crazy.
00:22:20.900 It's not true.
00:22:21.560 It even says in the second paragraph of the article that this person linked, well, they didn't link to, they just gave me the screenshot.
00:22:28.920 It says in the second paragraph, the study's author admits that there isn't necessarily any causal relationship between the bathroom policies and the sexual assault of trans students.
00:22:38.340 So they didn't establish any causal relationship at all.
00:22:42.480 And they're not actually talking about sexual assaults in bathrooms.
00:22:46.280 What the study is saying is they're, they're taking a look at sexual assault in general.
00:22:51.900 And they're using information compiled by, among others, the human rights campaign, which is a far, far, far radical left organization.
00:23:00.000 So you've got all kinds of problems with the methodology that they're, that this is, this is far from objective research.
00:23:05.220 This is, this is, this is completely biased and they are relying on information from organizations that have an obvious ideological stake in the matter.
00:23:14.160 But putting even that aside, which you can't really do, but we'll put it aside anyway.
00:23:19.220 What they're saying is they're looking for instance.
00:23:22.520 So for example, to get to this one in four statistic, you could have a transgender student who, for example, was abused at home.
00:23:32.580 And they're, they're lumping that in with the one in four.
00:23:39.320 Okay.
00:23:39.900 So they're taking abuse and assaults that happen far outside of any bathroom.
00:23:45.280 And they're somehow trying to link it to the bathroom.
00:23:49.900 It's just completely arbitrary and absurd.
00:23:53.400 Obviously, if a, if a trans student is abused at home, terrible thing.
00:23:57.700 It's got nothing to do with bathroom policies at school, clearly.
00:24:04.160 So what, what happened with this study?
00:24:05.760 Clearly what happened with the study is what the studies authors wanted to discover, what they were looking for.
00:24:12.040 They wanted to find that trans, that these biological males who identify as females are somehow at risk in the male bathroom.
00:24:20.660 That's the, that's the result they were trying to find.
00:24:23.840 They didn't find it.
00:24:25.340 They didn't find what they were looking for.
00:24:27.580 So instead they, they, in fact, what they found is there's no correlation at all.
00:24:31.560 There's no issue here.
00:24:33.240 These, these students are not at risk in the male bathroom.
00:24:35.820 That's what they found.
00:24:37.420 But they tried to find a way of presenting the information so that there would still seem to be kind of a link.
00:24:43.320 And then the media helps them out by coming up with a headline like this, that is completely and totally misleading.
00:24:49.600 And this really is how fake news works.
00:24:51.840 So the headline here is technically true.
00:24:55.700 So they can always claim that they didn't lie, but it's also obviously grossly misleading.
00:25:02.560 This is what I always say with studies.
00:25:08.780 If someone throws a study at you and it doesn't mean anything until you've read it.
00:25:16.760 And in fact, we should not be, you know, we should not be presenting study.
00:25:21.240 You shouldn't be presenting a study as evidence for your claim unless you have read the study.
00:25:26.780 Not read a headline about it, not read an article about it, but you need to have actually read the study itself, the entire thing.
00:25:35.000 If you haven't done that, then you have no business quoting a study, none.
00:25:39.380 And in fact, to quote the study that you haven't read is dishonest and it is a form of lying.
00:25:44.620 Because you know that you're trying to support an argument and you're using this and, but you don't actually know if it's a legitimate study or not.
00:25:50.820 And you know that you don't know that, but you're using it anyway.
00:25:52.960 So that's dishonest and it's lying.
00:25:54.220 And, you know, it's something a lot of people do on both sides.
00:25:56.940 And I think we need to get a hold of that.
00:26:00.020 Okay.
00:26:01.560 Let's go to emails.
00:26:02.840 MattWalshow at gmail.com.
00:26:04.100 This is from Trevor.
00:26:05.140 Hey, Matt, I wanted to ask you something that may seem trivial at first, but it's been on my mind for a while.
00:26:09.740 That is, how can I critically think better?
00:26:12.020 I ask this question because I'm really into history, philosophy, and theology, but I find that I hold most of my views because I just happen to agree with someone.
00:26:19.320 When I discuss my views with people, they compliment me on my knowledge or my opinion on the subject.
00:26:23.500 But I can't help but remember that I only hold my views mainly because I've just heard other people make the points.
00:26:28.860 The only thing I've done is memorize ideas and agree or disagree with them.
00:26:32.280 I'm not sure if I'm being too hard on myself, but I can't help but feeling a little bit like a fraud.
00:26:36.180 How can I get better at coming up with my own original takes on things and then building my convictions off of them?
00:26:41.000 Also, I study history at university, so it would only help if I got better at thinking critically.
00:26:46.680 I also ask you because out of all the conservative speakers I have listened to, you seem to have the most nuanced takes.
00:26:52.160 I never hear the typical right-wing talking points, and I can't really predict what you're going to say about a certain topic.
00:26:57.520 And I'm always interested with your take and rationale behind it, not exactly trying to flatter you, although take it how you want.
00:27:02.360 I just thought you were a top-notch example of thinking for yourself and then letting those original thoughts shape your beliefs.
00:27:07.480 We'd love to hear your advice.
00:27:08.660 Well, Trevor, see, I have to disagree with you.
00:27:13.820 Number one, I'm not a top-notch thinker.
00:27:15.640 I'm a little mediocre, let's be honest.
00:27:19.200 Hit or miss.
00:27:19.660 Number two, I don't think you need help thinking critically because you're obviously doing a great job of it.
00:27:27.140 This email, what you're describing here, this is critical thinking.
00:27:31.160 What you're doing right now is critical thinking.
00:27:33.260 And this is exactly the sort of self-reflection and self-analysis that most people never engage in.
00:27:39.460 So you are already way, way, way ahead of the curve.
00:27:41.840 And people who lack critical thinking skills, which most people do in my experience, certainly never have this thought process that you're having right now.
00:27:52.680 So, and I think it's great.
00:27:54.480 I mean, I think it's great that you're, the fact that you're saying this about yourself and noticing this about yourself is a really good sign.
00:28:05.600 So what you're doing here is asking a really basic question, a question that is a starting point for all critical thinking,
00:28:10.640 and a question that I'm, that again, I'm betting most people in this country and in across the world have never asked themselves.
00:28:17.760 And the question is this, why do I believe the things that I believe?
00:28:24.200 And what you've discovered is the same truth that any one of us would discover the first time we asked this question to ourselves.
00:28:30.600 The first time we sincerely and seriously asked this question of ourselves.
00:28:35.660 What you find is that you believe most of what you believe because you have passively inherited those beliefs from your parents, from your friends, from the media, from the people around you, from the culture, et cetera.
00:28:47.460 So it's just been this sort of, you know, like a, like a sponge, just soaking in things, but not really thinking much about them.
00:28:54.640 Um, you don't have necessarily good reasons for some of the things that you believe you have talking points, which you've memorized, but that's not the same as having a reason.
00:29:08.880 And this is the case for everyone before they've really taken on the task of critical thinking.
00:29:14.640 So, you know, don't, don't feel bad about it.
00:29:18.040 You should feel proud of yourself that you're, that you're thinking about this and engaging in this process in the first place.
00:29:24.040 So here's the good news.
00:29:26.120 Just because you've, you've inherited certain convictions, just because you don't really have necessarily good reasons for thinking some of the things you think, it doesn't necessarily mean that you're wrong about those things.
00:29:37.300 It doesn't mean that all your beliefs are wrong, but it does mean that they could be wrong, right?
00:29:43.060 For all, you know, so now you have to take those beliefs sort of metaphorically, pull them out of your mind, place them on the table in front of you and, and inspect them, do, do an honest inspection.
00:29:59.340 And so here are just some ideas on how, you know, how we can become critical thinkers.
00:30:05.080 And I give this advice, not as an expert, but as a, as a, I guess a striver, I suppose, like you.
00:30:10.460 So I think the, the first step, when you notice that you believe something, but don't have great reasons for believing it, the first step is to do what you've already done, which is to acknowledge and say, okay, you know, I might be wrong about this.
00:30:24.380 And, and now with that simple acknowledgement, you're setting yourself up for an objective analysis of the question, because you can't objectively analyze anything if you're not willing to admit that you might be wrong.
00:30:37.720 So if on, on any subject, you've never said to yourself, I might be wrong about this, then you've never objectively considered it, no matter what it is, whatever the conviction, belief, whatever is, if you've never at any point considered the possibility that you could be wrong, then you've never looked at it objectively, which probably means you have no good reason for thinking it.
00:31:03.860 Okay, but so once you've done that, now you're ready for objective consideration. And, and so that's good.
00:31:13.420 And now I think it's a simple process of, of listening to, looking at, reading, giving a fair hearing to all of the sides of the issue in question, whatever it is.
00:31:24.240 Don't seek out the very best arguments and the most articulate defenders of the various different views. Let them speak for themselves. Don't seek out one side's version of what the other side says. Don't do that.
00:31:37.940 Let that side speak for itself and really challenge yourself. Find the people, because it's very easy. And we, we all do this sometimes make, we make ourselves feel better about our convictions by only engaging with the dumbest people on the other side of it so that we feel even better.
00:31:54.640 Because we can leave saying, oh, wow, these people don't have any arguments. They're a bunch of morons. And depending on what it is, I mean, there, there are issues, in my opinion, where the other side really has no good arguments at all.
00:32:07.000 And you can hear them out, but they just, they just, and I, we've been talking about it this week with the bathroom thing. I've heard out the other side and they have no good, they really don't have any good arguments.
00:32:15.540 I mean, there are positions that are just flat out stupid and wrong. And, um, and there's only so far you can go in taking them seriously. So that's true. But in, you know, that's not the case with so many other issues. Um, and so you take, you, you seek out the other side, let them speak for themselves. Uh, and, and then you're, and now you're, you know, and now you're formulating your own views. And this is pretty exciting. It's very freeing.
00:32:39.580 Um, because now you're doing this honest investigation and you're developing your own perspective, your own ideas. Um, and when you consider the issue, you know, don't worry about whether the ideas and opinions you feel forming are consistent with what people have always told you or with what you want to believe or anything else. Just, just let your brain and your mind, um, do, do its own work.
00:33:05.320 And then as you engage with all the sides, you listen to the arguments, now you've kind of fueled your brain and you can really work it over in your head. So something I'll do, maybe this is because I'm schizophrenic. I don't know, but I'll have arguments with myself in my head. I don't know if this is, I guess probably a lot of people do this. This is what I do. Um, I have arguments with myself in my head all the time.
00:33:25.940 Um, and if I have a viewpoint that I want to defend that I believe that I think I'm right about, so I'm turning it over in my head and I try to argue against myself and I try to anticipate what an, you know, an intelligent person might say in response to that view.
00:33:41.140 And so now I'm just like going back and forth in my own mind. Um, and I think that's what critical thinking consists of for, for everybody in one form or another.
00:33:51.700 Just one, one good tip is when you're arguing with yourself in your mind, try not to, especially if there are people around you, don't, don't verbalize anything because you'll look crazy.
00:33:59.980 Um, one other thing to think about here, I think another good test, another good thing for a critical thinker to do is to constantly be holding your views up against your other views to see if they're consistent.
00:34:16.480 I think this is one thing we should always be doing is to look for internal consistency within your worldview.
00:34:21.240 And if you discover that, um, so if you have an opinion on an issue and the arguments you present, you discover are not consistent with the arguments you present on some other topic, where in other words, you know, you present arguments on one topic, but those arguments, if applied to your position over here, it would actually defeat your own position.
00:34:46.680 And I think a lot of people have a worldview full of stuff like that. It's just a tangled web where they've just a mishmash of, of conflicting, contradicting ideas.
00:34:59.660 And that's a problem because now you don't have a coherent worldview. And now also, you know, that you must be wrong about some of this stuff because in order to be right about this over here, you got to be wrong about that.
00:35:10.440 And so that's another thing we have to be analyzing and figuring out and trying to establish a worldview that's coherent.
00:35:17.500 And we are, you know, we have certain basic principles that we are consistently applying across the board to everything.
00:35:22.940 Uh, but you're on a, you're on a great path already. So congratulations for that.
00:35:30.640 Uh, let's see, this is from Joseph says, Matt, I'm finally able to say, I was able to see the great theocratic emperor in person.
00:35:39.000 I went to the, uh, uh, uh, university of Wisconsin, Milwaukee lecture, and I loved every second of it.
00:35:44.460 Don't have a beard. So I couldn't ask a question in person. That is a rule. You have to, you have to have a beard to ask a question.
00:35:49.160 So thank you for following that rule. I love that you changed the topic and talked about masculinity.
00:35:53.200 The speech reminds me of an extended, expanded a version of the C.S. Lewis quote.
00:35:57.480 We make men without chess and expect of them virtue and enterprise.
00:36:01.040 You mentioned the type of education system you would send your kids to outside of home.
00:36:04.720 I think what you described would be the best, but is it attainable?
00:36:08.600 You said not government run, which also means not government funded.
00:36:12.200 If it's totally private, wouldn't it be hard for the middle class and lower class to attend these schools?
00:36:16.140 Thanks for all you do. Yeah. Well, we live in a society right now, Joseph, where, uh, is, is in many ways structured around the current educational system and dependent upon it.
00:36:26.180 So any significant change to the, to the system would require necessitate, uh, a major change to the way our society is structured and there's no getting around that.
00:36:40.200 So, but my point is that we have to start by realizing that the current system is horribly, fatally flawed and bad for children and counterproductive and harmful and all these things.
00:36:51.660 And we start by realizing that. And even if the total solution, the ultimate solution is far in the future, we can at least start heading in that direction.
00:37:01.340 So when we're taught, when we're noticing that there's something in society that is some major thing in society that is fundamentally flawed, yeah, that's going to mean that fixing it is a real long-term solution.
00:37:16.860 And it's going to require a lot of sacrifice and it's way in the future. So I, I, that is the case with, with, um, the education system.
00:37:23.140 I think the ultimate goal for us should be to get rid of the government funded state sponsored education system completely.
00:37:31.000 I think that education should be a fundamentally private endeavor. I don't think the government should be running it, but is that something that is a realistic goal for the next five years? No, but I do think it should be a goal.
00:37:46.000 Um, let's see. Do one other real quick here from Antonio says, hi, Matt, in your opinion, is it possible to establish a deep affinity or friendship or a love relationship with someone who thinks in the opposite way on issues that are fundamental for such a, uh, for us, such as abortion or child abuse in cases of gay slash transgender propaganda in schools?
00:38:08.000 Well, Antonio, you could definitely have a friendship with someone who disagrees with you fundamentally on, on anything. I think, uh, there's no reason why you can't be friendly with and even friends with someone who you disagree with on, on everything.
00:38:22.780 But if you're talking about a romantic relationship, potentially a marriage with someone who's diametrically opposed to you on the most basic issues, then that I would be very wary of.
00:38:33.120 And I would warn against, um, especially with something like abortion and transgenderism among children and child abuse, because if you marry someone who disagrees with you on those things, you've got two big problems.
00:38:46.200 One is that your worldviews are so opposed, so separate that I think you're going to have trouble establishing that kind of intimate and complete bond that you need in a marriage because you just see the world through completely different lenses.
00:38:57.920 The other, on a more practical level, and this is something that I think people need to take into consideration, on a more practical level, especially if you're a man, um, pro-life, you know, against child abuse, against transitioning children, which is child abuse.
00:39:15.780 Well, if you marry a woman who disagrees with you on that, you have no guarantee, first of all, that she won't kill your child in the womb.
00:39:24.680 You have no guarantee she won't.
00:39:27.560 What if you guys end up conceiving a child when you didn't mean to or intend to?
00:39:33.860 Um, now you know that you're married to someone who at least considers it an option to go and kill the child.
00:39:40.720 And I just, that's not a situation I ever want to be in.
00:39:43.520 And then also, even after the child is born, you know, what if the kid has a normal phase when he's three or four years old and starts going around saying that he's a girl?
00:39:53.780 Normal thing for, for, for, it's a normal phase for children of both genders to go through.
00:39:58.380 And a normal confusion for them to have, especially if it's never been explained to them what a boy and girl is.
00:40:03.540 Well, you're married to someone who might be inclined to encourage that and fuel it.
00:40:09.700 And next thing you know, you know, it's like the James Younger case and you're married to someone who's, who's, who's trying to change your son into a girl.
00:40:17.720 So, so I would, that's, that's a big risk, especially these days.
00:40:23.920 Um, and especially with the lack of power legally that men have over these situations.
00:40:31.080 So as a man, you gotta be, these are questions you gotta be talking about with a woman that you're dating.
00:40:39.160 And I really think you gotta be a hundred percent on the same page, at least with that stuff before even considering marriage.
00:40:46.900 So thanks for the question.
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