The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 388 - Person Of The Year

00:00:00.000 You probably heard that climate activist Greta Thunberg has been named the Time Person of the Year.

00:00:05.860 I have to say I'm frankly appalled, outraged by this choice, because you're telling me that in the year 2019,

00:00:17.400 2019, the current year, you're naming a privileged, white, cisgendered person as your Person of the Year?

00:00:25.780 Wow. Wow, Time Magazine. Wow. Very progressive choice.

00:00:32.760 Reinforce white heteronormativity some more, why don't you? 0.56

00:00:36.160 Promote colonialistic gender binary paradigms some more while you're at it.

00:00:41.300 Push more oppressive societal constructs.

00:00:44.640 Just continue with your insinuations that Western cultures are more engaged on climate issues

00:00:50.980 while ignoring the literally millions of Vietnamese pansexuals, gender-fluid Ethiopians

00:00:56.640 who have been fighting this fight for thousands of years.

00:01:01.460 But none of them can be named Person of the Year, can they?

00:01:04.140 Oh, no, we're just going to pretend they don't exist.

00:01:07.640 Couldn't even find an intersex, aboriginal, genderqueer South Korean.

00:01:13.020 None of those available, huh?

00:01:15.240 Oh, they're not doing anything. No, no, no, no, no. It's all the white people. 0.82

00:01:18.140 It's all the privileged white people who care about the planet.

00:01:21.820 I am tired of seeing the climate activism of marginalized communities erased by the media.

00:01:30.560 I'm tired of the media pretending that people of color and agendered people

00:01:35.540 and bigendered people and trigendered people and quatragendered people don't exist.

00:01:42.320 Time Magazine is a white supremacist publication.

00:01:45.120 It should be listed as a hate group by the government.

00:01:49.340 And to Time Magazine, in the words of Greta Thunberg herself, I say, how dare you?

00:01:55.980 How dare you?

00:01:58.560 How dare you?

00:02:00.640 Okay. Anyway, actually, by the way, speaking of woke climate activism, I wanted to, I don't

00:02:12.820 know if you've seen this. Check out this flyer that somebody posted online. It's a picture

00:02:16.680 of, well, it's a picture of a flyer for a course at Portland State University, courtesy

00:02:22.000 of their women, it's their women, gender and sexuality studies department.

00:02:26.280 So, you know it's going to be pretty good. Let me see if I can pull it up. I just retweeted

00:02:33.240 it on Twitter, at Matt Walsh blog, by the way. Okay, here it is. So, this is the flyer

00:02:39.340 for the course. It's queer, it's a course on queer ecologies, queer ecologies, rethinking 0.96

00:02:47.720 the nature of nature. And then it describes the course.

00:02:51.740 This class uses a queer lens to understand bodies, places and the environment. We explore

00:02:57.660 how gender, sexuality and queer experience and identity intersect with race, class, disability

00:03:03.040 and settler colonialism, to construct bodies and places as natural, and the role that science

00:03:08.620 plays in defining nature. Topics include queer bodies, queering settler colonialism, queer

00:03:15.480 environmental politics, disability and queer environments, queering science, queer animals. 0.95

00:03:22.000 Sorry, this is a very serious topic. I don't mean to laugh. I'm really just laughing with

00:03:25.920 joy. I'm laughing with joy that finally, you know, these sort of subjects are being

00:03:31.100 taught to our children. I mean, for too long, our kids have gone to school and learned about

00:03:36.180 things like science and history, and we have completely neglected to talk about queer animals. 0.65

00:03:43.520 Queer environmental futurity, future, futurity, future, futurity? Queer environmental futurity. 1.00

00:03:51.480 Well, that's a word. That's definitely a word. This class seeks to reimagine nature, bodies

00:03:57.620 and places through a queer lens. So there you go. All I'm going to say is people are going to pay 0.99

00:04:07.200 money for this course. People are going to take this course and pay money. And those same people,

00:04:14.020 given that this is Portland State we're talking about, those same people in a few years are going

00:04:18.660 to be unemployed and have massive debt. And they're going to start crying about their student debt and

00:04:24.000 demanding that we get, that we give them debt forgiveness. They're going to take out their

00:04:27.600 violins and they're going to play them. And they're going to tell us a sad story about how hard their

00:04:31.980 life is. Well, if you are plunging yourself into crippling debt for the sake of this nonsense,

00:04:39.200 then you deserve all of the consequences that come your way. I paid a hundred grand to take classes

00:04:45.560 on queer ecology and vegan history. Now I can't find a job. Help me. I'm a victim.

00:04:51.180 Eh, no, I don't think I will help you. I think of, if I were to make a list of all the people in the

00:04:59.680 world who, who deserved help, you would literally be at the bottom of it. You would be like number

00:05:05.700 7 billion on the list. I think we should help every other person on earth before we help you.

00:05:14.140 All right. So our old friend AOC was doing a bit of a grandstanding at a congressional hearing on

00:05:19.160 Tuesday, par for the course, her favorite thing to do. And, um, in case, uh, in this case, she was

00:05:25.440 grandstanding for government mandated paid family leave. She wants the government to mandate that

00:05:31.620 companies give at a minimum, uh, she says three months of paid leave, but she really wants six

00:05:37.920 months, nine months, 12 months. I believe she said mandatory. And in order to make that point,

00:05:43.960 she pulled out a rather tortured analogy. Do we know how long puppies are allowed to stay with

00:05:54.280 their mothers after a dog has given birth? I don't, uh, eight weeks. Wow. So the market has decided

00:06:01.660 that women and people who give birth deserve less time with their children than a dog. 1.00

00:06:09.020 And I think that that at its core has shown that the market has failed to treat people with dignity

00:06:16.540 and with basic respect. And so when that happens, I think it's our job as the public to redefine the

00:06:24.820 rules of society and to people and to treat people who give birth with the dignity that they deserve.

00:06:30.840 Thank you very much. Okay. Where do we even begin here? First of all,

00:06:39.020 well, okay. I honestly don't know where to start. I, all right. First of all, there really isn't

00:06:44.060 much comparison between dogs and humans. And to compare a human mother to a dog with a litter of

00:06:49.620 puppies seems rather dehumanizing to me, but the eight week thing she's talking about, that's the

00:06:56.120 amount of time that puppies stay with their mothers until they are shipped off to another family

00:07:00.760 generally permanently. So we're talking about at eight weeks, they are permanently separated from

00:07:06.440 their mothers. Nobody's talking about permanently separating human mothers from their children.

00:07:12.980 Nobody's even talking about separating mothers for, for days or weeks at a time.

00:07:18.440 Um, unless the, uh, unless the human mothers are, you know, working for a company that mines 0.98

00:07:24.700 resources from rocks in the asteroid belt or something like that, and they'll be gone for 50 years.

00:07:30.000 Uh, but other than that, they probably come home at the end of the day. So what we're talking about

00:07:33.060 is mothers working for part of the day and then coming home to their family. So it's, 0.54

00:07:37.140 it's really not comparable at all. Second, did you notice how she said women and people who give

00:07:43.440 birth? So she couldn't just say women who give birth or really just women. You don't really need the 0.97

00:07:48.260 stipulation of who give birth, but, uh, she said people who give birth and women to, to, to distinct

00:07:55.520 categories. She couldn't just say women, of course, uh, because that's, uh, that this is the sort of 0.98

00:08:02.560 nonsense that leftist political figures are forced to engage in. They don't believe it themselves. Even 0.92

00:08:09.300 AOC as, as, as, as empty headed, as she sometimes comes across, I can guarantee you that AOC doesn't 0.90

00:08:19.700 really believe that men can give birth. She doesn't really think that I, my theory, and I can't prove

00:08:28.360 this of course, but I would be willing to bet that almost everybody on the left knows that this gender 0.98

00:08:38.200 stuff is crazy. They, they know that of course men can't give birth. Of course, your sex is determined 0.99

00:08:44.120 by your, by your anatomy, your biology. I mean, they know that they have to know it. Everybody knows it.

00:08:51.720 Um, I think the number of people who are really confused on the subject is very, very, very small,

00:08:56.060 but they all are pretending and they, they want us to pretend also.

00:09:02.120 One of the ways that I know they're pretending is I have in many, many times I have engaged with

00:09:09.780 these people on this issue and you find that they just have no, if, if you, if you try to back them

00:09:16.820 into a corner to defend the proposition that anyone besides a woman can have a baby, they can't even 1.00

00:09:23.820 begin to defend it and they won't try. They, they, they know that it's a position they cannot at all

00:09:30.300 defend yet. They will continue to say it. And, and, and that should really, I mean, why are we even,

00:09:38.540 there's a part of me that thinks we shouldn't even be engaging like the left. You've just lost

00:09:42.900 everything. You have totally lost every argument. Now, all of your positions are, are disqualified

00:09:49.900 because you are claiming that men can have babies. The moment you say that I, nothing else you say,

00:09:57.300 I take seriously. And I, because either you are arguing in such bad faith that you are willing

00:10:04.800 to propose insanity like that, knowing that it's insanity, which means I can't talk to you because 0.99

00:10:11.120 you're dishonest or you're insane. I mean, those are the two options. You're crazy or you're pretending 0.97

00:10:17.300 to be crazy. Either way, what is there to talk about? I can't talk to you about anything. 1.00

00:10:22.360 And this is one of the, this, this is the problem. This is the divide that exists in our culture these

00:10:26.980 days, that you've got one side of the political divide living in a fantasy world. Just live, just

00:10:36.140 make, have completely rejected science, biology, all of it out the window.

00:10:44.260 And then the third issue here is I can't help but point out that AOC is a pro-abortion radical. 0.94

00:10:49.140 She believes that it should be legal and is moral to kill a baby five seconds before it emerges from

00:10:55.780 the mother's birth canal, the mother's birth canal, not the father's, the mother or the father's birth 0.86

00:11:01.060 canal, as AOC might say. But that's her opinion, that the child can be, can be killed at any point,

00:11:08.280 for any reason, at any point, for any reason before birth, which means that she has lost the ability

00:11:16.440 to be taken seriously when she prattles on about dignity and respect. Just like she can't be taken

00:11:22.580 seriously when she talks about science, considering the fact that she thinks or pretends to think that

00:11:26.360 men can have babies. Also, when she talks about dignity and respect for human beings, we can't take that

00:11:32.320 seriously anyway, because, because, because this is someone who, who, who defends the worst kind of

00:11:38.280 barbarity. So she has lost the moral high ground. Fourth thing, as for the paid family leave issue, the idea

00:11:47.580 that the government should require companies to provide, according to AOC, a year of paid family leave is

00:11:54.280 obviously madness. It just doesn't work. So like many liberal ideas, it sounds kind of good at first, if you

00:12:02.000 think about it for only one and a half seconds. So if you spend 1.5 seconds thinking about it,

00:12:05.900 and you don't think at all about implement, implementation, cost, effect, or anything else,

00:12:11.140 then maybe it sounds good to you. If you approach liberal policies, like a word association game,

00:12:18.680 where somebody says a word to you, and then you have to react to it instinctively without thinking about

00:12:24.240 it. I guess for a lot of people, it seems when they approach liberal policy ideas that way,

00:12:30.920 which is how a lot of people approach these issues, it sounds kind of good, because you say,

00:12:36.220 well, paid family leave, who could be against that? I'm not against it. I think paid family leave

00:12:41.680 is wonderful, but it has to be something employers work out themselves with their employees. The

00:12:47.120 government cannot mandate this, because think about it, if an employer is required to pay a woman for 12 0.80

00:12:53.420 months to not work and to stay at her house, the employer is also going to have to hire a replacement 1.00

00:13:01.360 who will have to be paid as well. So now for a year, he's paying double for that position.

00:13:09.720 Add in, let's say, another woman on 12 months of leave. Why not 12 years, actually? Let's do 12 years. 0.99

00:13:15.800 Good. Add in another woman on 12 months of leave, and now you've got four times the cost 1.00

00:13:23.600 for two positions. And keep multiplying that, it becomes unsustainable pretty quickly. Obviously

00:13:30.160 unsustainable. Now, the only way that an employer could make this work, maybe, is if when the mother 1.00

00:13:40.420 goes on that year of leave, he kind of, whatever she does, whatever her position is, he divides it

00:13:48.200 up and gives it to other people, other employees. And so her position is absorbed by, and her duties 0.84

00:13:53.960 are absorbed by other people in the company. The issue with that is, well, if he does that,

00:14:02.220 and now for a year, the company works fine with other people doing her job, along with their own jobs,

00:14:08.120 then why should he hire her back? He doesn't need her anymore. So in that 12-month period,

00:14:16.820 either the employer is paying double, which is unsustainable, or the woman has become

00:14:24.300 redundant at her own job because other people are doing it and she's not needed.

00:14:30.800 Either way, it doesn't work. Here, I think, is the problem. When it comes down to it,

00:14:36.440 in the industrial age, we have radically reordered the family and society. We did away with the

00:14:43.840 traditional arrangement of men being providers and women being caretakers. That's the way that 0.94

00:14:48.320 it worked, obviously, in many societies for many thousands of years. But we said, no, we're not

00:14:53.600 going to do that anymore. And now both parents can be providers and both can take turns being

00:15:00.020 caretakers. Whatever you think of that shift doesn't matter. That's not my point. My point is

00:15:06.980 that there are trade-offs, unavoidable. These trade-offs are inevitable. The trade-off is that,

00:15:13.120 one of the trade-offs anyway, is that now, with both parents working, and in many situations,

00:15:18.420 I admit that both parents have to work because that's how we've arranged society. We didn't have 0.86

00:15:24.800 to arrange it this way, but we did. And so now, for a lot of people, it's not a choice. It's like when I

00:15:29.360 talk about the public school system, and I'm a big advocate for homeschooling. I think that that,

00:15:33.380 or private schooling as well, depending on what private school we're talking about, because

00:15:38.060 they're not all good by any means. And I'm a big critic of the public school system. Ideally,

00:15:45.500 I think there shouldn't be a public school system, but many families are in a position where they have

00:15:52.140 to send their kid to public school because both parents have to work. They can't afford private

00:15:56.400 school or there aren't any good ones in the area. And then what are you going to do? There really

00:16:01.260 isn't any other option. And I fully acknowledge that, admit that. But my point is, we have set up

00:16:08.760 society in such a way as to be dependent upon this institution. It doesn't have to be that way.

00:16:15.080 And we could start working in the long term towards making it so that we're not dependent on

00:16:21.220 this institution of the public education. We could also in the long term work towards a situation

00:16:29.340 where we don't need to talk about 12 months of paid family leave anymore. But those are choices we

00:16:36.940 have to make as a society. As it stands right now, with both parents working, children, not just babies,

00:16:44.700 don't have the same opportunity to bond with and be raised by and influenced by their parents.

00:16:50.060 That's just how it goes. There's no way around it unless we do a radical reorganizing of society.

00:16:58.560 Unless we are willing to look fundamentally at how we approach families and work, these really

00:17:05.960 foundational things. Unless we're willing to look at that and say, maybe we're doing this wrong.

00:17:14.140 If we're not willing to have that conversation, then this is just how it's going to be.

00:17:18.380 Folks like AOC, they want to have it both ways. They want to say, oh yeah, women should go out, 1.00

00:17:24.880 have a career, focus on that. That's what it means to be empowered, is to go out and have a job and all

00:17:30.860 that. While at the same time insisting that children shouldn't be deprived of their mother's

00:17:36.380 presence in the home. Well, wait a second. How can it be both? You can't say both.

00:17:40.940 And why are you? I mean, I joked a minute ago that if you're doing 12 months, why not 12 years? Well,

00:17:48.120 really, why not? Because it's not like babies benefit from having their mothers in the home 0.99

00:17:53.160 for the first 12 months and then don't benefit anymore. That benefit that you're talking about

00:17:58.160 extends throughout the entire childhood. So we have made a choice in this society. That's what I'm

00:18:08.200 trying to, that's the argument I'm making here. We have made a choice. The choice that we made

00:18:14.240 collectively is that it's more important to have the parents out of the house working than it is

00:18:22.160 to have them in the house as a constant presence. And, and, and we also decided that other people

00:18:32.740 and institutions like the public school system or babysitters or daycare centers can sufficiently

00:18:38.460 compensate for and fill in for the parents. That's, that's the decision that society made.

00:18:48.220 That is in fact, the, the decision that people like AOC will still defend

00:18:57.160 while at the same time from the other direction attacking it. So it doesn't make any sense.

00:19:04.440 That's, that's not necessarily, that's not how I feel. I'm not really on board with, with this, but,

00:19:10.320 uh, that's the way it is now. And I don't think you can fix it just by mandating some policy.

00:19:21.340 And then there's this, uh, the most overrated athlete in America, also the most unlikable,

00:19:26.220 Megan Rapinoe, one person of the, she won sports person of the year from Sports Illustrated this week.

00:19:31.740 I think it should have been Lamar Jackson that won personally. Now I'm, I'm a Homer, I'm a Baltimore

00:19:37.840 guy, so I'm biased. I think Lamar Jackson is, is not only changing the game of football, not only is

00:19:44.720 he the, the story of the year in American sports, uh, just electric, electric athlete, a lot of fun

00:19:51.160 to watch, but he's also just a really likable guy. He's a great role model. He does all of his

00:19:56.820 press conferences after the game, he shows up wearing a t-shirt that says, nobody cares, work harder.

00:20:01.740 I mean, that's, that's just the best message you could hope to get from somebody in a position

00:20:07.000 like that. And he lives it too. He doesn't, doesn't complain, doesn't make things about

00:20:11.640 himself. He's kind of the, he's kind of the anti-Kaepernick in a lot of ways. I don't mean

00:20:14.980 that in a political sense. I don't know what his politics are. Doesn't talk about them, which I

00:20:17.900 think is great. Um, but just in the sense of he's not making it about himself, he's not complaining,

00:20:23.320 lifts his teammates up all the time. I just, I think he's a great, I think he's a great role model for

00:20:27.580 kids and he should have been the sports person of the year, but no, we didn't give it to him.

00:20:31.460 We gave it to in many ways his diametric opposite, uh, Megan Rapinoe, but during her, her acceptance

00:20:38.980 speech, she blasted sports illustrated for not being diverse enough. Watch.

00:20:44.560 And while we don't get to choose what it is that we witness, we are the gatekeepers of

00:20:50.880 those stories. And we do get to decide how we bear witness to the world around us and

00:20:59.560 to the truth that we see. Is it true that I am the fourth woman deserving of this award?

00:21:11.560 I don't think so. Is it true that so few writers of color deserve to be featured in this publication?

00:21:25.080 No. Is it true that so few women's voices deserve to be heard and deserve to be read in this publication? 0.71

00:21:36.360 I don't think so.

00:21:40.360 So there you go. I, and I have nothing to say about that other, other than to, to laugh at it. Um,

00:21:45.880 this is what you get, you know, sports illustrated. They, they have gone above and beyond to, to appeal

00:21:51.960 to the woke crowd. They've done everything they can to woke-ify and it's never enough, never, ever

00:21:58.680 enough. This is the lesson we learn over and over again. It's never enough. You can, they are giving

00:22:04.820 her an award and she's, she's still upset at them. She's still mad, still somehow persecuted.

00:22:14.400 Uh, but so there's Megan Rapp. That's why I really, I, I just, I don't, there are some,

00:22:22.180 I think Lamar Jackson, very easy to root for someone like Megan Rapp, you know, going around

00:22:26.740 complaining constantly, complaining about her money. That's the worst thing to complain. She's a rich 1.00

00:22:31.080 athlete going around complaining. She's not paid enough. When in reality, she's actually overpaid 1.00

00:22:36.340 all this stuff about the women, this sock women, soccer stars, aren't paid enough or underpaid 1.00

00:22:41.300 compared to the men. Now, when you look at how much money they bring in, in comparison, how much

00:22:44.720 money they make, they're actually overpaid and they make a lot of money. Megan Rapp, you know,

00:22:49.500 is a rich, rich woman still complains about it though. So this is someone who's just impossible to 1.00

00:22:54.880 root for. I don't know how you do it. All right, let's go to emails. Matt wall show at gmail.com.

00:23:00.040 Matt, this is from Rina says, Matt, why do you have just one stocking on the mantle behind you?

00:23:07.920 It's kind of depressing. I do have just one stocking. I don't think there's anything depressing

00:23:12.340 about it. It's actually a really fun tradition in my house. The tradition is I'm the only one who

00:23:17.260 gets a stocking for Christmas. I'm also the only one who gets presents on Christmas or at any other

00:23:22.980 time of the year. So everyone has a chance to really go out, have a great time buying me presents.

00:23:29.100 And the good thing is that everyone in the family learns about the value of giving. Now I've already

00:23:34.800 learned that value, so I don't need to learn anymore. So I don't need to give, but everyone

00:23:38.360 else needs to learn. So they go and they buy me presents. And then it's very sweet on Christmas

00:23:43.280 morning. You know, the kids rush down, everyone rushes down to, you know, it's a classic Christmas.

00:23:48.640 Everyone rushes down into the living room and then they form a circle. I sit in the middle of the

00:23:52.080 circle and unwrap all my presents. Usually it takes about three hours. And the kids are just crying

00:23:56.840 tears of joy the whole time. It's a really a wonderful, wonderful tradition. This is from

00:24:02.860 Hunter says, Hey Matt, I've been watching your show for a few months now. And although I enjoy

00:24:06.840 the show, I'm decidedly more liberal than you on the topic of abortion. You seem very firm in your

00:24:11.920 belief that it is an act of evil. Yes, I would say I am over the months of watching the show. This has

00:24:17.400 been one of the handful of issues that you haven't been able to sway my position, my opinion on.

00:24:22.180 There are two points that always come to mind when thinking about your argument. One, what if I were

00:24:28.060 to get my girlfriend pregnant? I'm 19 working on my education. My girlfriend, 18, is getting ready to

00:24:32.340 ship out to Air Force basic training in January. A baby is not a part of our short-term plans and would

00:24:38.260 undoubtedly destroy both of our plans for life. This must be a concern for many young people and it is a

00:24:45.680 very real fear despite taking the proper precautions. I know this is not an excuse for evil, but I would

00:24:51.700 not be able to put my personal feelings aside and neither would my girlfriend if I came down to

00:24:56.140 abortion. Two, putting aside my own personal feelings when looking at abortion from a statistical point

00:25:01.080 of view, is it possible that abortion would help a society overall by limiting the number of single 0.99

00:25:05.900 mothers and the amount of crimes, so on and so forth? If this was proven to be true, could abortion be

00:25:11.580 looked at through the lens of a necessary evil, such as war or allowing AOC supporters to vote?

00:25:18.220 Well done. But I don't consider that to be a necessary evil, actually. I would love to hear

00:25:23.660 back from you privately or at the end of your show. Keep up the good work. Well, you say that I haven't

00:25:29.620 been able to sway you on abortion. I consider that a huge failure on my part considering I talk about it

00:25:34.480 so often. So let me see what I can do here. You give your two sticking points. One is you feel like

00:25:40.300 you might need to have an abortion, quote-unquote need, to have that option open to you because a 0.91

00:25:46.300 baby would destroy your plans in life, you say. And number two, you say that it's a necessary evil

00:25:50.100 because it cuts down on single motherhood, crime, poverty, etc. Well, I feel like I probably don't

00:25:54.300 need to argue against your first point. That's not so much an argument from you, but just you being

00:25:59.460 honest about your motivations. I appreciate the honesty. I think I probably don't need to tell you.

00:26:04.020 In fact, I know I don't need to tell you because you say it yourself that it's not an excuse for evil.

00:26:07.220 Well, it's not. That's the answer. It's exactly right. See, what we're trying to figure out is

00:26:12.960 not whether abortion might be useful. I concede that it could be. So if that's the discussion,

00:26:18.340 is it useful? I say, sure. Lots of things could be useful. If they were to legalize bank robbery,

00:26:25.140 that could be very useful to me. If I'm in a pinch and I don't have any money, I can go rob a bank.

00:26:31.020 Now, it's not so useful to the people who get their money stolen or to the bank or to the people who

00:26:35.520 maybe get harmed during my armed robbery. Not so useful to them, but to me, selfishly,

00:26:39.420 yeah, very useful. Carjacking is a useful option if you don't have a car but don't want to go pay

00:26:44.380 for one at the used car dealership. You can just steal somebody else's. Useful for you,

00:26:48.800 not so useful for the person who gets their car stolen. Murder can be useful too. I acknowledge

00:26:53.340 it can be a very useful tool. Think about how useful it is for the mob when they murder witnesses,

00:26:58.380 okay? How useful it is for drug gangs when they kill off the competition. It's a very useful thing.

00:27:04.240 The question, though, is not whether it is useful, but whether it is objectively right or not.

00:27:10.600 Also, by the way, babies don't destroy your plans in life. They might require an adjustment,

00:27:16.280 but there's no reason why they have to destroy all your plans. I have four kids. Now, I'm married and

00:27:20.560 I'm older, but I have four kids. I haven't abandoned my goals or my dreams or my plans in life

00:27:25.940 at all. In fact, I feel even more motivated to pursue my goals because I have kids. There have

00:27:35.940 been chances that I've taken. There have been risks that I've taken, gambles that I've made,

00:27:40.780 smart gambles, they turned out to be, calculated gambles that I have made in pursuit of my goals

00:27:48.620 that I maybe would not have made if I didn't have kids. But one of my main motivations is to provide

00:27:58.320 for them, to provide a life for them and to provide for them in life. And so it all depends

00:28:04.780 on your perspective. You could look at having a baby as, oh my gosh, my life is over. Or you could

00:28:10.380 look at it as this is a new life that has come into existence. My life has gotten more interesting.

00:28:18.620 Maybe there are going to be more challenges, but it's also more fulfilling now. And I've got more

00:28:23.300 motivation, more reason to work harder. But let's move on to your actual argument. You say,

00:28:28.980 is it possible that abortion could help a society overall by limiting the number of single mothers

00:28:32.440 and the amount of crime and so on and so forth? If this was proven to be true, could abortion be

00:28:35.860 looked at through the lens of a necessary evil? There's a major flaw in your argument, Hunter,

00:28:40.460 and maybe by pointing this out, maybe it'll sway you a little. You'll have to let me know.

00:28:47.040 The flaw is this. Everything you just said would just as much justify killing infants and toddlers

00:28:55.800 as it would killing the unborn. So let me ask you this. Would you support a campaign

00:29:02.820 encouraging poor single mothers to murder their two and three-year-old children?

00:29:09.960 What would you think if suddenly across the country, mothers were taking their toddlers

00:29:14.040 into bathtubs and drowning them legally? Now, this would undoubtedly help the mothers financially. 1.00

00:29:22.260 Also, let's face it, some of those babies are going to grow up and become criminals. 0.96

00:29:25.820 Some of them are going to grow up and end up on the welfare system. And so we've dealt with that

00:29:30.820 problem by killing them. Of course, some of them may also have grown up to be philanthropists and 0.99

00:29:34.980 teachers and surgeons and doctors and soup kitchen volunteers. And so you've wiped all them out too.

00:29:40.380 But certainly there are going to be some future criminals in that bunch as there would be in any

00:29:45.540 random group of children. But what would you say about that? Again, it is justified using the exact

00:29:54.920 same argument you just made. Exact same situation. It's not like this is unprecedented either.

00:30:01.880 Infanticide has been practiced in many cultures throughout the world and throughout history.

00:30:05.840 So what would you say? I'm guessing you would be horrified. And why? Because you realize that

00:30:12.580 these pragmatic considerations could not possibly ever, ever, ever justify the mass murder of innocent

00:30:19.640 children. And further, you realize that any societal gains made through efforts like that

00:30:26.540 are not even close to being worth the cost. You realize that if killing toddlers helped us become

00:30:32.720 a richer society, that would not be a compensation for the fact that we have forfeited our souls. 0.73

00:30:38.240 We are a richer society, but also a very evil one. And you realize that if all this death and

00:30:43.600 bloodshed would make us wealthier as a society and more comfortable, then in that case, it would

00:30:50.000 be better to be poorer and less comfortable. So when you look at this situation, I'm assuming you would

00:30:56.860 say that if this is the only way, I'm assuming you would say you would rather be a poor country

00:31:08.460 that doesn't kill toddlers than a rich one that does. 1.00

00:31:15.300 And if I'm right about how you would feel about two and three-year-old children being drowned in the

00:31:20.260 bathtub in mass, then all I'm asking you is to take that logic and apply it to the unborn. And then you see 0.92

00:31:28.600 how your argument, though pragmatic and practical, is totally off base.

00:31:35.120 Because it completely ignores the moral consideration here, which we cannot ignore.

00:31:43.920 And if we get to a point where we're saying the only thing that matters is whether or not this might

00:31:50.060 practically help some group of people, if that's what we're saying, then we have just invited in

00:31:56.120 all manner of the worst kinds of evil you could ever imagine.

00:32:01.140 Thank you for the email, though. And thanks for listening and keeping an open mind, as they say.

00:32:09.380 This is from Joe, says,

00:32:10.660 Dear mighty and powerful leader, I recently started working at an office with an open floor plan

00:32:14.840 and low-walled cubicles. Yesterday, a co-worker microwaved canned tuna for lunch. The stench

00:32:21.040 permeated through a large portion of the floor and lingered for 10 to 15 minutes. I searched my

00:32:25.700 immediate surrounding area in order to hopefully hand down a swift punishment, but found nobody eating the

00:32:30.160 tuna. Therefore, the smell came from outside a 10-foot parameter or made its way all the way

00:32:35.220 through a break room 50 feet away. Under your regime, how would this individual be punished for

00:32:40.240 this vile assault on my olfactory nerves? My first thought is a twisted version of eye for an eye,

00:32:46.660 and they'd be stoned to death with cans of tuna, but I would like to know your official ruling.

00:32:50.260 I have so many questions, Joe. Who microwaves tuna, first of all? That's just egregious. Bringing tuna to

00:32:55.620 work in the first place is unacceptable. It's like if someone took their shoes off on a plane,

00:33:01.240 which is bad enough, but then stuck their smelly, disgusting, hairy feet right under your air vent 0.99

00:33:07.640 overhead so that the stench is wafting directly into your nostrils. That's the kind of thing, 0.87

00:33:12.800 if a person does that on a plane, the air marshal is going to arrest them and throw them out of the

00:33:15.900 plane at 35,000 feet. I'm pretty sure that's the law. What I would say with your suggestion,

00:33:20.440 you say stoning them to death with tuna cans, I find that pretty inappropriate and shocking,

00:33:24.780 honestly, that you would suggest that because the cans aren't going to be hard enough, I think, 0.59

00:33:29.300 to actually bludgeon someone to death. What I would suggest, this might be a little impractical,

00:33:33.440 my penalty, I think, would be bring them out to the ocean, capture a real tuna fish. Those things 0.91

00:33:41.060 are pretty big. Bind them to the tuna fish and then let the tuna fish drag them into the dark

00:33:48.600 depths of the ocean. That's my first thought about how we would handle that, but certainly,

00:33:54.780 some practical concerns there, I think, as a matter of justice, that would certainly be the

00:34:00.000 most just way to deal with that. I'm sorry that you had to be assaulted in that way at your place

00:34:06.560 of work. And then we've got a bunch of other emails, but I think, you know what, we're going

00:34:12.500 to wrap it up there, and maybe I'll save some of these other emails for tomorrow. Again,

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00:35:05.600 Hey, everyone. It's Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show. Donald Trump is giving the

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The Matt Walsh Show - December 11, 2019

Ep. 388 - Person Of The Year

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