The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 393 - The Myth Of Fiscal Conservatism

00:00:00.800 Impeachment Day. Impeachment Day is here. The left's very excited about Impeachment Day.

00:00:05.760 There's no reason to even point this out anymore, but I will anyway, that, you know,

00:00:10.720 you're not supposed to be excited about a president getting impeached. I'm not saying

00:00:16.740 you have to be opposed to it every time. Obviously, that's not my point. I'm saying that if you

00:00:22.480 support it, the fact that in your mind a president must be impeached deserves to be impeached in your

00:00:31.080 mind should, I would think, engender in you a more of a somber feeling, okay, not a celebratory one.

00:00:38.480 But this is a pointless thing for me to say, I realize. We're long past the point of that kind

00:00:43.660 of maturity, of that kind of sober-mindedness. The mask has long been torn off. The left

00:00:50.680 wants Trump out because they hate his guts. They just don't like him. And they said from day one

00:00:57.140 that they want him impeached. And now they're actually doing it. It's as simple as that.

00:01:00.680 They were looking for an excuse. They've been searching for an excuse for three years. They

00:01:04.560 finally found one, and they went with it. I do worry, I have to say, I do worry about where all

00:01:12.700 of this heads. And I don't talk about impeachment much on this show for reasons I've already

00:01:17.100 explained. It's talked about plenty elsewhere, plenty of great analysis. I don't feel like I

00:01:22.460 have to add to it. Also, I think there are things that, for me, are more important and deserve our

00:01:29.820 focus more. But I will say, on one of the rare occasions that I talk about the impeachment

00:01:34.560 mess, I will say that I do worry about it. As I've always said, I worry about the bigger picture,

00:01:44.400 I mean. Now, as I've always said, I don't see America descending into a civil war. I don't see

00:01:49.020 that happening. Because at the end of the day, all anybody really wants to do in this country is

00:01:53.440 binge Netflix. They want to sit on their couch and binge Netflix. That's all anybody wants to do.

00:01:57.620 And having a full-on civil war will very much interfere with that. And then also, I think our

00:02:04.200 ideological divide in this country does not have the same geographic character as it did in the past,

00:02:11.280 at least not quite to the same extent where you had that clear dividing line north and south.

00:02:17.080 We don't exactly have that now, which would make a civil war less logistically feasible.

00:02:22.940 But I am concerned at any rate about the trajectory we're on. If you think about it,

00:02:29.920 impeachment has historically been a very, very, very rare thing. It was viewed historically as a

00:02:36.900 step taken only in the extremist of circumstances. There have been many corrupt presidents in the

00:02:43.760 past. There have been many presidents who have done a lot of bad and stupid things.

00:02:49.480 Almost all of them were not impeached. Because impeachment is last resort, the most extreme thing

00:02:55.560 that you can do to a president. Now, this impeachment, motivated plainly by the Democrat

00:03:03.600 Party's overall revulsion to Trump, this impeachment comes only 20 years after the last impeachment.

00:03:14.340 And previously, before the Clinton impeachment, there had only been two in history. Well,

00:03:19.340 really, actually one, I guess, because Nixon resigned before he was impeached. But we'll call

00:03:23.680 that an impeachment. So there have been two in history, in over two centuries of American history.

00:03:28.640 And then, and then you had, and then you had Clinton. And now we've got another one 20 years

00:03:33.620 later. So what happens now? If Republicans take control of the house and a Democrat wins in 2020,

00:03:39.640 or in 2024, or whenever it happens, will Republicans impeach that person out of revenge? I know there's

00:03:47.260 going to be, there will be among conservatives. I don't think it's right. I don't think that this is

00:03:54.100 what we should do. But I think there's going to be, in fact, I've already seen it. I've already seen a

00:03:58.860 lot of conservatives online saying, next time we get a chance, we're impeaching one of yours.

00:04:04.180 And I think there's going to be a groundswell of conservative voters calling for that.

00:04:11.680 Because now, now a lot of people are in revenge mode. So Democrat gets in, you got a Republican house,

00:04:17.560 they're impeached. Does impeachment become, I guess this is my concern, does impeachment become a

00:04:21.980 standard political tool? Just something that you do? Where does it lead when the opposing party

00:04:29.560 always tries to remove the president democratically elected by the country?

00:04:37.360 Are we, are we getting to a point where that's just the way it goes? You, you, it's, it's not just

00:04:41.140 that you, if you're the opposing party, you oppose the president. That's always, but now you,

00:04:47.520 you try to remove him. You try to get him out of office. Um, I worry about that. And speaking of

00:04:55.860 worries, in case you wanted stuff to worry about this holiday season, it's a great theme for a show

00:05:01.200 heading into Christmas, all the stuff to worry about. There is a $1.4 trillion spending bill

00:05:07.540 currently making its way through Congress. And also speaking of other things that are important

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00:06:28.320 while everybody is talking about impeachment, both Republicans and Democrats are hoping that we don't

00:06:35.200 notice $1.4 trillion, this boondoggle that they're ramming down the public's throat. Let me read a

00:06:44.740 little bit from the Washington post. The house on Tuesday approved a $1.4 trillion spending package

00:06:50.060 that would stave off a looming shutdown and fund the federal government through September,

00:06:56.060 acting in a burst of bipartisanship just a day before Democrats plan to impeach president Trump.

00:07:00.420 Uh, the legislation would also remove three controversial taxes from the affordable care

00:07:04.780 act. The package passed in two pieces, one focused on GOP national security priorities,

00:07:09.960 including the Pentagon, the other on domestic agencies, dear to Democrats, such as the department

00:07:13.840 of health and human services. The vote of the national security package was two 80 to one 38.

00:07:18.160 The vote on the domestic agencies was two 97 to two or to one 20. Um, the legislation would add

00:07:25.880 almost $50 billion in new spending, even though the white house and Republicans called for major

00:07:30.760 budget reductions earlier in the year, the package would also strip back parts of the ACA legislation

00:07:37.040 that many Democrats say serves as a defining moment of the Obama administration. All told the legislation

00:07:41.340 could add more than $500 billion to deficits over the next decade. The deficits or annual gap between

00:07:50.920 government spending and tax revenue is expected to eclipse $1 trillion this year, $1 trillion and grow

00:07:57.780 in subsequent years, subsequent subsequent. That's the way I pronounce it. Every time I say

00:08:03.300 subsequent, I get emails. You say subsequent, it's subsequent. No, I say subsequent and that's

00:08:07.840 perfectly valid. Look it up. Um, anyway, $1 trillion and it's going to grow in, in subsequent years,

00:08:14.440 unless changes are made. Okay. All I can say is I hope that we all understand now.

00:08:20.360 I'm sure we've all understood this for a while, right? That fiscal conservatism

00:08:23.820 is a myth, doesn't exist. It just doesn't exist. There is no fiscally conservative party. There is

00:08:33.180 no movement of fiscal conservatism. It, it, it, it's, it's not there. It's been a myth for at least 30

00:08:40.640 years. Every Republican president in that span has run huge deficits. And I want you to think about

00:08:46.580 what a deficit is. The Washington Post explained it if you didn't know, but to reiterate, that means

00:08:53.680 that the government is spending more than it collects in revenue. All right. Basic economics.

00:09:02.020 But here's, here's why that's significant. At this point, the government collects almost $4 trillion

00:09:09.700 in revenue. I think 2020, it was about 3.7 or it will be about 3.7 trillion for 2020. So we're,

00:09:17.540 we're getting to the 4 trillion mark. We're getting very close to it. Let's round up and call it 4

00:09:21.500 trillion just for the sake of argument. So, um, that means they're spending more than 4 trillion

00:09:29.240 dollars and that's not enough. Okay. Somehow they can't get everything they want accomplished

00:09:36.160 with a measly 4 trillion. Collecting $4 trillion. That's not enough. They, they, they, they need to

00:09:42.040 spend even more than that. $4 trillion. I mean, think about what $4 trillion is. We're dealing with

00:09:49.360 numbers that are beyond human comprehension. I think that's one of the reasons why fiscal

00:09:55.800 conservatism died. It was sort of overwhelmed. It died by overdose because now we're dealing with

00:10:01.920 numbers that no, no one can even a trillion. What is a trillion? What is a trillion? I have no,

00:10:07.060 I, you can't conceptualize that. It's such a massive number that we, I think we, we tune it out

00:10:13.740 because we can't wrap our heads around it. Well, here's one way to conceptualize it.

00:10:20.480 Collecting $4 trillion in revenue is the equivalent. So the government collecting $4 trillion in revenue

00:10:26.680 is the equivalent of the equivalent of the government confiscating all of the wealth of half of the

00:10:33.080 world's billionaires. If they were to line up half of the billionaires in the world, take everything

00:10:40.600 that each one of them is worth, that's about $4 trillion. And it's not enough. So they're doing

00:10:48.860 that every year now. Every year, the government is spending the equivalent of all of the wealth of

00:10:59.200 half of the world's billionaires. And they need to spend even more. So there isn't any party in

00:11:07.300 Washington and hardly any individual voices in Washington that care about fiscal conservatism.

00:11:12.500 That's dead. That doesn't exist. Nobody cares about it. There was a movement of conservatives of,

00:11:21.000 there was a conservative movement for a little while. I think the Tea Party, this was one of the

00:11:26.000 big focuses of the Tea Party. What happened to that? What happened? What happened to the Tea Party

00:11:31.280 Republicans concerned about that? They got bored with it. That's why I'm often skeptical of these kinds

00:11:39.700 of movements that pop up. People are out holding signs. And I went to some of the Tea Party rallies

00:11:45.400 back in, what was it, 2009 or whenever that was. And I quickly grew weary of it. I even went to some

00:11:52.000 Tea Party meetings. Because it started to seem to me that people just had fun. They just wanted to go

00:12:00.060 out and hold a sign and feel like they were doing something. Then you go to a meeting and everyone takes

00:12:04.560 turns getting up and complaining. But that's it. It just, that's what it seemed like. It seemed like

00:12:10.400 people were having fun. It was something to do. It was a hobby. And sure enough, within 10 years,

00:12:17.960 nobody cares anymore. No one talks about any of that stuff anymore. Meanwhile, lawmakers have

00:12:24.580 stuffed into this spending bill a provision. Tell me if you can see how this has anything to do with

00:12:31.300 spending. They've stuffed into the bill a provision that would raise the age to buy, to buy tobacco to

00:12:36.400 21. As part of a spending bill, they're going to make it so that you have to be 21 to buy any tobacco

00:12:42.260 product, including e-cigarettes. What does it have to do with spending? Why wouldn't this be a separate

00:12:49.080 piece of legislation that they, that they take out and debate specifically? If you want to do that,

00:12:55.220 make it a separate bill, debate that, pass that. Well, probably they don't want to debate it because

00:13:01.900 it's impossible to justify something like this. So let's just think about this now. You have to be

00:13:08.400 21 to buy a pack of cigarettes or once this law passes, this bill, this spending bill passes, which it

00:13:15.720 will, you have to be 21 to buy a pack of cigarettes or a vape cartridge. If that's what, is that what it is?

00:13:21.620 It's a cartridge when you vape. I don't know what, whatever it is, whatever the kids are doing these

00:13:25.800 days, you have to be 21. Um, you, you are not, according to the government. Now you are not old

00:13:32.660 enough or mature enough to make the decision to buy a pack of cigarettes or to vape before the age of 21,

00:13:39.760 but you are old enough to drive at 16. So at 16, we're going to trust you to pilot a 4,000 pound

00:13:51.180 chunk of metal down the highway at 75 miles an hour. We're going to trust you to do that.

00:13:57.020 You're competent enough for that, but it's going to be another five years before you're mature enough

00:14:01.960 to pilot that five, that 4,000 pound chunk of metal to Rite Aid to buy cigarettes.

00:14:09.720 If Rite Aid even still sells cigarettes, which I'm not sure if they do at 18. So that's, that's 16,

00:14:15.500 16, you're already old enough for that. At 18, at 18, we're going to trust you to open a bank account.

00:14:22.220 We're going to trust you to get a tattoo, which is permanently marking your body. We're going to

00:14:27.900 trust you to enlist in the military. We're going to trust you to go skydiving. We're going to trust

00:14:33.260 you to serve on a jury. We're going to trust you to buy fireworks. We're going to trust you to buy a

00:14:37.920 shotgun. We're going to trust you to sign contracts. We're going to trust you to sign a

00:14:42.800 mortgage. We're going to trust you to get married. We're going to trust you to vote.

00:14:50.820 But you won't be old enough to vape for another three years. So you're old enough to do all that

00:14:55.040 stuff. You're not old enough to vape. No, no, that's where we draw the line. Oh, and you can

00:15:00.580 also be executed by the state. So you're so competent, and we expect you to be so competent

00:15:07.640 that if you commit a serious crime, you can be executed, or at a minimum, you can go to federal

00:15:12.860 prison. Not old enough, though, to smoke a cigar. Not old enough to smoke a black and mild.

00:15:19.960 Or to drink a Bud Light, for that matter. Oh, and you're also old enough to kill your baby in an

00:15:25.700 abortion. So you're old enough to make that decision. And you're old enough to get plastic

00:15:32.420 surgery, permanently mutilating your body. Speaking of which, you're old enough to permanently

00:15:38.340 transition into another gender. Well, you could do that before 18 now. So all of that, everything,

00:15:43.940 I mean, every responsibility and power and right imaginable, you have, and a bunch, some of which

00:15:53.240 you should not ever have, like the ability to kill your baby, but we're throwing that in too.

00:15:56.940 You could do all of that before 21, most of it at 18, some of it before that.

00:16:04.940 But you're still not old enough to buy a cigarette. The only thing left, I think at what, 25 is when

00:16:11.720 you can rent a car. So that's the only thing left. That's the last thing. That's the last thing

00:16:18.920 you're old enough to do, is rent, is go to Enterprise and rent a Toyota. Does any of this make any sense?

00:16:26.240 Is there any theory of human psychological and emotional development that can lend any coherence

00:16:33.460 or credibility to this? I'd like to hear from some psychologist to explain to me exactly how it is

00:16:42.580 that the human mind has matured enough at 18 to do all of that stuff, but still it cannot be trusted.

00:16:50.240 The person with that mind cannot be trusted to stand at the gas station and have the ability to

00:16:56.460 buy a pack of camels.

00:17:01.920 And

00:17:02.180 now you can't, when I've talked about this in the past, people will say,

00:17:08.360 oh, well, nobody should be smoking anyway. It's poison.

00:17:12.340 Okay, but that's an argument for

00:17:14.020 banning it outright. That's not an argument for raising the age limit.

00:17:17.620 And if you think that tobacco should be banned, well, then make that argument.

00:17:21.460 I would wholeheartedly disagree with it,

00:17:23.640 but that's an argument you can make.

00:17:26.400 You can make that argument.

00:17:28.720 I don't think that anyone has a God-given right to

00:17:31.380 buy cigarettes.

00:17:34.060 Theoretically, it could be banned.

00:17:35.580 I absolutely would disagree

00:17:37.760 with that move.

00:17:39.560 But if that's your argument, if you are

00:17:41.760 okay with this,

00:17:43.300 or if you justify it on the basis

00:17:45.340 that it's a horrible thing,

00:17:47.640 it's poison, nobody should do it,

00:17:49.540 tobacco companies are predatory

00:17:51.440 and all that stuff, yada, yada,

00:17:53.680 those, all of that,

00:17:55.100 those are all arguments for prohibition.

00:17:56.860 Those are not arguments for raising the age limit

00:17:58.560 arbitrarily to 21.

00:18:01.100 Now, I know I'm going to get a million emails that say,

00:18:03.080 but you said porn should be banned.

00:18:05.560 Yes, and I will,

00:18:07.520 and I have already repeatedly defended

00:18:09.480 my assertion that porn is far more harmful,

00:18:13.340 far more of a danger to society

00:18:15.260 and to children and to people

00:18:16.760 that are involved in it

00:18:18.140 than tobacco products are.

00:18:20.340 You disagree with me if you want,

00:18:21.880 that's fine,

00:18:22.360 but my position is at least intellectually consistent.

00:18:25.200 It's not arbitrary.

00:18:26.960 There's nothing arbitrary about it.

00:18:30.560 Arbitrary would be me saying,

00:18:32.220 well, I think porn's a terrible thing

00:18:34.520 that's very harmful

00:18:35.220 and so therefore the porn,

00:18:36.940 the age for viewing

00:18:39.020 or purchasing pornography

00:18:40.680 should be raised to 37.

00:18:43.220 That would be arbitrary

00:18:44.500 and intellectually dishonest.

00:18:48.740 Why 37?

00:18:49.840 Why not 21?

00:18:51.940 Why not 18?

00:18:53.080 Why not 16?

00:18:54.500 I mean, why are we drawing these lines exactly?

00:18:57.920 I'm not saying that there's no reason to draw a line.

00:19:00.040 I'm just saying you have to have a,

00:19:01.000 you must present what the reason is.

00:19:05.320 There could be a good reason.

00:19:08.340 Now, I'm not arguing that children

00:19:10.240 should have the right to do

00:19:11.640 all of these things at any age.

00:19:13.660 It's definitely not my opinion.

00:19:17.880 But there should be a discernible reason

00:19:21.780 that you can present

00:19:22.820 based partly or largely in human psychology

00:19:26.980 to defend whatever age limit

00:19:30.920 you've come up with

00:19:31.600 for whatever the thing is.

00:19:35.120 So, if you want to argue

00:19:36.540 for tobacco prohibition,

00:19:38.080 then make that argument

00:19:39.760 and I'll explain why you're wrong.

00:19:41.980 But don't tell me that it makes sense

00:19:43.720 to raise the age

00:19:44.900 from,

00:19:45.640 to 21 from 18

00:19:47.060 when all of these other things

00:19:49.300 can be done at 18.

00:19:50.200 Other things,

00:19:54.220 including, by the way,

00:19:55.600 looking at and purchasing pornography.

00:19:58.420 As I mentioned,

00:19:59.200 there's another thing

00:20:00.120 you can do at 18.

00:20:01.160 But again,

00:20:01.820 not mature enough to vape.

00:20:04.120 You need another three years

00:20:05.340 of maturity for that.

00:20:06.360 which means

00:20:08.340 we have people voting

00:20:10.200 and driving

00:20:10.880 and buying guns

00:20:11.840 and convicting

00:20:13.040 their fellow citizens of crimes.

00:20:14.960 Think about what serving

00:20:15.560 on a jury means.

00:20:16.940 It means we're trusting

00:20:17.760 your judgment

00:20:18.360 to decide

00:20:20.040 if someone should go to prison

00:20:21.200 or worse.

00:20:23.880 So,

00:20:24.480 so there are people doing that,

00:20:25.740 driving,

00:20:26.680 buying shotguns,

00:20:28.180 convicting people on juries,

00:20:30.340 all that stuff.

00:20:31.700 Being convicted of crimes themselves

00:20:33.480 and sent to prison

00:20:34.240 or to death row.

00:20:36.360 There are people doing that

00:20:37.660 who are not competent enough

00:20:39.540 to wield a vape pen.

00:20:42.360 According to the law

00:20:43.340 as it stands right now

00:20:44.220 or as it will stand

00:20:45.180 once this spending bill is signed.

00:20:49.180 That's what the law is saying.

00:20:50.400 Does it make sense?

00:20:51.560 No, it doesn't.

00:20:52.840 But here's something

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00:21:34.060 By the way,

00:21:34.720 they're talking about,

00:21:35.700 I don't know if you've seen this,

00:21:36.440 they're talking about now

00:21:37.080 doing an all-female fight club.

00:21:39.520 That's the latest reboot in the works,

00:21:41.440 an all-female fight club.

00:21:43.220 Now this obviously is stupid.

00:21:44.920 It's not going to work.

00:21:46.040 For one thing,

00:21:46.740 this is yet again Hollywood

00:21:47.880 pandering to the woke crowd

00:21:49.440 by appropriating popular stories

00:21:51.520 and trying to feminize them

00:21:52.680 rather than just making new stories,

00:21:55.380 telling new stories,

00:21:56.780 having women star in those stories.

00:21:58.900 You want to tell a story

00:22:00.320 that involves women fighting,

00:22:02.980 fine, go ahead and tell that story.

00:22:04.740 It doesn't need to be

00:22:05.640 a female fight club.

00:22:07.780 So it's very dumb.

00:22:08.900 And for another,

00:22:09.760 fight club is to its core

00:22:12.260 a male movie.

00:22:13.580 That's part of the whole point

00:22:14.920 of the thing.

00:22:16.400 You just,

00:22:16.940 you cannot remove

00:22:18.280 the testosterone from that movie

00:22:20.680 while still having it be fight club

00:22:23.840 in any distinguishable sense.

00:22:26.680 So a fight club without men,

00:22:29.060 that would be like

00:22:29.960 a Mean Girls remake

00:22:32.120 without girls.

00:22:34.600 Which,

00:22:35.400 come to think of it,

00:22:36.800 Mean Girls is already

00:22:37.760 kind of the female fight club,

00:22:38.840 so I don't know why

00:22:39.340 you need this.

00:22:40.640 But here's the bigger problem.

00:22:41.760 This is really my point.

00:22:44.100 And this is the issue

00:22:45.560 with this.

00:22:47.740 That no one else

00:22:48.640 is going to point out.

00:22:50.320 So I feel like I have to.

00:22:53.080 What's the first rule

00:22:54.300 of fight club?

00:22:55.200 We've all seen the movie.

00:22:57.080 What's the first rule

00:22:58.020 of fight club?

00:22:59.580 You don't talk

00:23:00.580 about fight club.

00:23:02.220 So there is no way

00:23:03.800 women could ever

00:23:05.460 follow that rule.

00:23:06.620 It would never happen.

00:23:08.760 You know that rule

00:23:10.040 is going to be obliterated

00:23:10.940 on the first day.

00:23:11.600 There is no way

00:23:12.460 you could have a bunch of women

00:23:13.360 in something like fight club

00:23:14.460 and they're not coming home

00:23:16.180 and telling their husbands

00:23:16.840 and their boyfriends

00:23:17.320 all about it

00:23:18.000 the very first day.

00:23:19.080 It would not take

00:23:19.780 a lot of prodding.

00:23:20.560 It really wouldn't.

00:23:22.320 They would come home

00:23:22.860 the first day,

00:23:23.560 Oh my gosh,

00:23:24.100 the craziest thing

00:23:24.960 happened today.

00:23:25.460 Oh yeah?

00:23:26.060 What was it?

00:23:26.640 I can't tell you.

00:23:27.340 It's a rule.

00:23:28.200 I just,

00:23:28.460 I can't say it.

00:23:29.560 Okay.

00:23:30.100 Well, you don't have to tell me.

00:23:30.900 No, seriously.

00:23:31.500 I just,

00:23:32.000 I can't tell you.

00:23:32.860 I really can't.

00:23:33.660 I'd be in so much trouble.

00:23:34.600 I promised that I wouldn't tell.

00:23:35.720 All right.

00:23:35.980 That's fine.

00:23:36.320 You don't have to tell me.

00:23:36.920 Okay, fine.

00:23:37.440 So I joined this thing

00:23:38.060 called fight club

00:23:38.820 and oh my God,

00:23:39.660 this girl, Tyler,

00:23:40.840 she started it,

00:23:41.760 but I think she might be

00:23:42.340 a projection of my own

00:23:43.580 personality because I'm going insane.

00:23:45.140 But anyway,

00:23:45.600 there's this girl there.

00:23:46.540 She's really fat

00:23:47.200 and that would be

00:23:49.200 the end of the movie.

00:23:49.920 That's just,

00:23:50.320 that's the end

00:23:50.780 of the female fight club.

00:23:52.340 It might be kind of interesting though.

00:23:54.480 Come to think of it.

00:23:55.960 Let's go to emails.

00:23:57.640 MattWallShow

00:23:58.040 at gmail.com.

00:23:59.540 MattWallShow

00:23:59.940 at gmail.com.

00:24:01.660 Now that I've given

00:24:02.300 the media matters

00:24:03.280 monitors of this show,

00:24:05.380 that's going to be there.

00:24:06.360 That's going to be their poll

00:24:07.360 for this,

00:24:08.040 for this show.

00:24:08.740 That's,

00:24:09.100 that's the one

00:24:09.440 that's going to end up

00:24:09.840 on Twitter.

00:24:11.520 Daily Wire host

00:24:12.660 goes on sexist rampage.

00:24:15.660 Daily Wire host goes,

00:24:16.920 I'll give you the,

00:24:17.760 what the headline is

00:24:18.360 for Twitter,

00:24:18.940 media matters.

00:24:20.560 Daily Wire host

00:24:21.520 goes on sexist rant

00:24:23.260 about female fight club reboot.

00:24:27.080 There it is.

00:24:27.800 Put it up.

00:24:30.940 MattWallShow

00:24:31.380 at gmail.com.

00:24:32.440 MattWallShow

00:24:32.980 at gmail.com.

00:24:34.020 This is from Paul says,

00:24:35.420 you asked,

00:24:36.640 why would you give your money

00:24:38.120 to someone who hates you?

00:24:39.780 Christians still patronize

00:24:40.980 Starbucks.

00:24:41.720 People have no spines

00:24:42.600 when it affects their appetite.

00:24:44.740 Paul's referring to

00:24:45.720 what we talked about yesterday

00:24:46.620 with Netflix.

00:24:47.380 They,

00:24:47.540 they are streaming

00:24:49.100 this grotesque,

00:24:52.080 absurdly,

00:24:53.320 intentionally offensive,

00:24:55.660 quote unquote,

00:24:58.980 comedy special

00:24:59.840 that portrays Jesus

00:25:01.680 as a gay man.

00:25:02.860 And it's,

00:25:04.300 there's no reason for it

00:25:05.960 other than just to spit

00:25:06.680 in the face of Christians.

00:25:07.420 And the point that I made yesterday

00:25:08.660 and a lot of people have made

00:25:09.740 is,

00:25:10.500 okay,

00:25:11.140 Netflix has every right

00:25:12.300 to stream this kind of material

00:25:13.540 if they want to.

00:25:14.280 but that is obviously

00:25:16.600 a statement

00:25:17.140 to their Christian customers

00:25:18.260 and the statement is,

00:25:19.680 we hate you,

00:25:20.980 we have no respect for you,

00:25:23.120 we don't want your money.

00:25:26.480 And if a company

00:25:27.900 is going to send that message

00:25:29.640 to you as a customer,

00:25:31.300 then it makes sense

00:25:32.760 to say,

00:25:33.320 all right,

00:25:33.680 well,

00:25:33.820 then I'm not going to give you my money.

00:25:34.840 If you don't want it,

00:25:35.360 I won't give it to you.

00:25:36.560 If I walk in the door,

00:25:37.940 metaphorically,

00:25:38.460 and you spit in my face,

00:25:40.500 okay,

00:25:40.820 I'm not going to give you my money.

00:25:41.980 It's not even a boycott.

00:25:43.300 It's not a boycott.

00:25:44.120 It's not about making a statement.

00:25:45.780 The statement has been made

00:25:47.000 by Netflix in this case.

00:25:48.400 They made the statement

00:25:49.340 by streaming this content.

00:25:55.220 And Paul says

00:25:56.200 there are other companies as well.

00:25:57.240 And that's true,

00:25:57.940 of course.

00:25:58.680 I think,

00:25:59.660 you know,

00:26:01.340 I have long

00:26:03.160 been opposed

00:26:04.580 to boycott culture.

00:26:06.020 And boycott culture

00:26:08.000 is this thing

00:26:08.800 where a new company

00:26:10.220 is being boycotted

00:26:11.060 every other day

00:26:12.160 and companies

00:26:13.380 are being boycotted

00:26:14.100 for frivolous reasons.

00:26:15.920 Companies are being boycotted

00:26:16.960 because

00:26:17.480 somebody in the company

00:26:19.400 made a political statement

00:26:20.600 or there's some,

00:26:21.440 you know,

00:26:21.660 some kind of tangential,

00:26:23.440 peripheral thing

00:26:24.320 where the company

00:26:25.620 through

00:26:26.180 a maze of connections

00:26:28.600 is being connected

00:26:29.480 to some ideological point

00:26:31.240 that other,

00:26:32.020 that a group of customers

00:26:33.400 don't like

00:26:34.020 and so they say

00:26:34.800 we're going to boycott.

00:26:35.280 That kind of thing.

00:26:39.440 And that I think

00:26:40.380 is frivolous

00:26:40.960 and stupid

00:26:41.380 and I'm opposed to it.

00:26:43.720 But I do also think

00:26:45.360 that, again,

00:26:46.080 if a company

00:26:46.680 is making a statement,

00:26:48.800 is making a point

00:26:49.580 to the customer

00:26:50.220 saying,

00:26:50.840 if you are this kind

00:26:51.740 of customer,

00:26:52.320 we really don't like you,

00:26:54.020 we have no respect for you,

00:26:55.200 then,

00:26:56.140 yeah,

00:26:56.400 I mean,

00:26:56.540 of course you're going to,

00:26:57.120 you're not,

00:26:57.620 give your money

00:26:58.360 to somebody else,

00:26:59.060 not them.

00:27:00.520 You put Starbucks

00:27:01.500 in that category.

00:27:02.300 See,

00:27:02.420 I don't really think

00:27:03.500 I would put Starbucks.

00:27:04.420 I think Starbucks

00:27:04.960 is a liberally

00:27:07.060 oriented company.

00:27:08.500 That's for sure.

00:27:11.240 As far as a company

00:27:12.440 that goes out of its way

00:27:13.540 to insult Christians,

00:27:15.000 I don't think so.

00:27:16.580 Unless you're going to go

00:27:17.380 with the Starbucks cup thing.

00:27:19.200 They don't have religious imagery

00:27:20.620 on their cups.

00:27:21.300 Instead,

00:27:21.600 they just have snowflakes

00:27:22.520 that say happy holidays.

00:27:23.460 If that's what you're going with,

00:27:26.800 I would say,

00:27:27.760 I don't think that's

00:27:28.280 anti-Christian at all.

00:27:29.420 And actually,

00:27:30.640 I don't even know

00:27:31.160 if that's what

00:27:33.440 you were referring to,

00:27:34.420 but as far as that goes,

00:27:37.220 I'm maybe unique,

00:27:39.320 not entirely unique,

00:27:40.460 but I'm in the minority

00:27:41.420 anyway among Christians

00:27:42.380 in that

00:27:42.920 it seems like I'm in the minority

00:27:45.460 anyway among Christians

00:27:46.380 that I don't need.

00:27:48.220 When I go to the store,

00:27:51.140 whether I'm going to get a coffee

00:27:52.640 or I'm going to the grocery store

00:27:53.640 or I'm at a restaurant,

00:27:54.660 whatever it is,

00:27:55.840 I don't need the employee

00:27:57.420 to say Merry Christmas to me.

00:27:59.500 It's not a big deal to me

00:28:01.020 if they say happy holidays.

00:28:03.080 I don't need specific

00:28:05.360 Christian decorations

00:28:06.840 in the store.

00:28:08.080 If they want to go

00:28:09.140 the secular,

00:28:10.380 more crowd-pleasing,

00:28:11.960 general route

00:28:12.560 with just doing snowflakes

00:28:14.140 and that kind of snowmen

00:28:15.000 and everything,

00:28:15.280 that's fine.

00:28:16.420 I don't need it.

00:28:21.420 I don't really understand

00:28:22.700 why people do.

00:28:24.120 I don't really understand why.

00:28:25.840 I think it's really stupid

00:28:27.140 and dumb

00:28:27.840 when people on the left

00:28:29.800 get offended by Merry Christmas

00:28:31.120 and they do sometimes

00:28:32.720 get offended by Merry Christmas.

00:28:35.540 In fact,

00:28:36.200 there was someone on Twitter

00:28:36.940 yesterday complaining.

00:28:38.300 I think it was a blue-checked

00:28:40.060 verified account,

00:28:40.920 so you know they're important,

00:28:42.480 complaining that Neil Gorsuch

00:28:44.160 was on Fox and Friends

00:28:45.840 and said Merry Christmas.

00:28:47.740 There's someone

00:28:48.100 really offended by that.

00:28:49.260 Okay, so that's

00:28:49.780 definitely a thing

00:28:50.960 and that's very stupid.

00:28:54.400 And to call that

00:28:55.760 overly sensitive

00:28:56.420 would be way underselling it.

00:28:58.840 But it's also stupid

00:29:00.420 in my mind,

00:29:01.200 and this also happens,

00:29:02.260 where you have some Christians

00:29:03.300 who get kind of upset

00:29:04.160 when they hear

00:29:04.580 the happy holidays

00:29:05.360 and making a point,

00:29:08.080 oh no,

00:29:08.440 we should say Merry Christmas.

00:29:09.500 Eh, who cares?

00:29:10.420 It doesn't matter.

00:29:11.240 It is a holiday.

00:29:12.640 See, there are other holidays.

00:29:14.520 Hanukkah is a holiday.

00:29:16.020 And depending on where you are,

00:29:17.600 now look,

00:29:17.960 if you're at a Walmart

00:29:20.500 in, I don't know,

00:29:21.680 Fort Smith or something,

00:29:23.920 yeah,

00:29:24.480 probably every customer

00:29:25.520 going in there

00:29:26.160 celebrates Christmas.

00:29:27.860 And so you might as well

00:29:29.160 say Merry Christmas.

00:29:29.940 But if you're,

00:29:31.120 you know,

00:29:31.240 like I grew up in,

00:29:32.100 where I grew up in Maryland,

00:29:34.120 it was a,

00:29:34.900 it was a,

00:29:35.720 probably still majority

00:29:36.780 Christian area,

00:29:37.680 but there was a heavy

00:29:38.880 Jewish population.

00:29:39.880 There were other people

00:29:41.180 of other faith traditions.

00:29:42.160 And so,

00:29:43.600 you know,

00:29:44.000 you work at a company there,

00:29:45.300 people are coming in.

00:29:46.480 There's a pretty good chance

00:29:47.700 they're not Christian.

00:29:49.040 And so,

00:29:49.820 why would you say

00:29:51.220 Merry Christmas

00:29:51.800 when there's a good chance

00:29:52.720 you're talking to someone

00:29:53.260 who doesn't celebrate

00:29:53.800 the holidays?

00:29:54.300 It's just going to be

00:29:54.680 kind of weird.

00:29:55.140 So what's wrong

00:29:55.720 with saying Happy Holidays

00:29:57.180 and being more general?

00:29:58.340 It's not that you're

00:29:58.920 trying not to offend people.

00:30:00.520 It just seems more sensible.

00:30:04.760 Certainly,

00:30:05.320 if you know

00:30:06.120 that someone's not Christian,

00:30:07.080 you're not going to say

00:30:07.580 Merry Christmas to them,

00:30:08.520 right?

00:30:08.700 That would be weird.

00:30:09.720 Not offensive,

00:30:10.580 just strange.

00:30:13.860 You wouldn't go up

00:30:14.500 to a Christian

00:30:14.920 and say Happy Hanukkah.

00:30:18.200 So,

00:30:18.740 I think the whole,

00:30:20.820 I think I'm,

00:30:21.400 Paul,

00:30:21.580 you didn't even bring this up,

00:30:22.360 so I may be way off

00:30:23.160 the track here

00:30:24.820 with what you meant to,

00:30:26.760 whatever you're referring to

00:30:28.160 with Starbucks

00:30:28.880 being anti-Christian,

00:30:29.840 I would,

00:30:30.280 you let me know.

00:30:31.160 I don't know what example

00:30:31.900 you're talking about.

00:30:32.600 But as for this Christmas thing,

00:30:34.020 I think on both sides,

00:30:35.080 it's just,

00:30:35.580 it's absurd.

00:30:36.280 Everyone needs to relax.

00:30:38.060 Doesn't matter.

00:30:38.720 Happy Holidays,

00:30:39.440 Merry Christmas,

00:30:40.060 whatever.

00:30:40.740 Doesn't take anything away

00:30:41.640 from my celebration,

00:30:42.620 okay?

00:30:43.640 We're celebrating Christmas

00:30:44.740 in my house.

00:30:46.020 Whatever Walmart

00:30:46.840 or Starbucks does

00:30:47.880 or however they decorate

00:30:49.260 the grocery store

00:30:50.940 or the mall

00:30:51.580 has no effect on me.

00:30:54.320 Doesn't matter.

00:30:56.780 Okay,

00:30:57.000 it's from Jacob,

00:30:57.680 says,

00:30:57.940 Hi, Matt.

00:30:58.320 You discussed the other day

00:30:59.100 the adoption of embryos

00:31:00.320 versus human children

00:31:01.120 and how priorities

00:31:01.880 should be given to the life

00:31:02.900 with a consciousness

00:31:03.560 and life experience.

00:31:05.080 I have heard arguments

00:31:07.020 from the left

00:31:07.540 about what to do

00:31:08.280 if a box of a thousand

00:31:09.520 viable embryos

00:31:10.660 and a three-year-old child

00:31:12.820 were both trapped

00:31:14.460 in a burning building

00:31:15.320 and you had to choose

00:31:16.120 which to save.

00:31:16.960 I understand that

00:31:17.560 just because you would save one

00:31:19.060 doesn't mean the other

00:31:20.200 isn't a life,

00:31:21.540 but it seems many conservatives

00:31:22.600 would agree

00:31:23.020 that the three-year-old's life

00:31:23.880 is worth more

00:31:24.700 and should therefore be saved.

00:31:26.480 My question is,

00:31:27.600 do you think the three-year-old's life

00:31:28.940 is worth more?

00:31:30.540 And if so,

00:31:31.500 what distinguishes

00:31:32.460 current consciousness

00:31:33.300 of the child

00:31:33.920 from the potentiality

00:31:34.960 for all of those experiences

00:31:36.320 and consciousness

00:31:36.820 of the embryos,

00:31:38.360 it seems to me

00:31:39.040 that if we are to value

00:31:40.340 life inside the womb,

00:31:41.560 we would want to value it

00:31:42.740 just as highly

00:31:43.380 as life outside.

00:31:44.920 Thanks so much

00:31:45.600 for your time

00:31:46.080 and I love listening

00:31:46.600 to your show every day

00:31:47.360 after school.

00:31:48.400 God bless.

00:31:49.020 Well, Jacob,

00:31:49.480 you're not wrong

00:31:50.120 in anything you said.

00:31:51.520 In fact,

00:31:51.800 I think you sort of,

00:31:53.300 as you were asking the question,

00:31:54.680 you worked through it yourself

00:31:55.700 and kind of answered it.

00:31:57.720 And the answer is that,

00:31:59.640 yes,

00:32:00.200 if you're trapped

00:32:00.700 in a burning building,

00:32:01.440 and this is a classic hypothetical

00:32:02.740 put forward by pro-abortion people

00:32:04.240 a lot,

00:32:05.080 even though it doesn't

00:32:05.920 prove anything,

00:32:06.960 and that's always been my response

00:32:08.020 to this hypothetical,

00:32:08.840 it proves nothing.

00:32:09.920 Yes,

00:32:10.320 if I'm trapped

00:32:10.880 in a burning building

00:32:11.620 and somehow,

00:32:13.640 for some reason,

00:32:14.620 there's a box of embryos

00:32:15.860 and a child,

00:32:16.480 I don't know what scenario

00:32:17.480 I would ever be in

00:32:18.240 where both of those things

00:32:19.040 would be in the same room

00:32:19.740 and it's burning,

00:32:20.440 but for the sake

00:32:22.560 of the argument,

00:32:23.460 yeah,

00:32:23.680 you would save

00:32:24.140 the three-year-old child.

00:32:24.840 I think anyone would.

00:32:26.480 You would be,

00:32:27.580 it would be psychotic

00:32:28.720 if you could only choose one

00:32:30.660 to leave the child there

00:32:32.040 screaming

00:32:32.640 to burn to death

00:32:34.380 while grabbing

00:32:35.080 a box of embryos.

00:32:35.860 I don't think anyone

00:32:36.540 would do that.

00:32:37.120 Anybody would grab the child.

00:32:38.460 I certainly would.

00:32:40.020 But as you said yourself,

00:32:41.440 that does not

00:32:42.100 at all demonstrate

00:32:43.320 that

00:32:44.700 the life

00:32:48.940 you chose

00:32:49.640 not to save

00:32:50.740 isn't a life.

00:32:52.760 Doesn't mean that.

00:32:54.920 And I would also say

00:32:56.180 you're talking about,

00:32:56.780 well,

00:32:56.920 which one is worth more.

00:32:58.740 It also doesn't mean

00:32:59.600 that one is worth

00:33:00.480 more intrinsically.

00:33:02.060 I would agree with you

00:33:03.240 that if human life

00:33:04.960 has intrinsic value,

00:33:08.880 intrinsic means belonging

00:33:09.940 to a thing

00:33:10.460 by its very nature,

00:33:11.740 right?

00:33:12.460 So,

00:33:13.040 if we have

00:33:13.980 intrinsic value

00:33:14.860 as human beings,

00:33:15.780 if me as a 33-year-old man,

00:33:17.920 I am 33, right?

00:33:19.140 Or am I 32?

00:33:20.160 I have to ask my wife.

00:33:21.040 I think I'm 33.

00:33:22.560 As a 33-year-old man,

00:33:24.820 if I have intrinsic value,

00:33:27.080 that means it's part

00:33:28.100 of my very nature.

00:33:29.500 Which means

00:33:30.180 if it's part of my nature,

00:33:31.820 it's integral,

00:33:33.080 it cannot be taken away,

00:33:35.200 it cannot be gained

00:33:36.180 at any point.

00:33:37.040 It's been with me

00:33:38.100 ever since I existed

00:33:40.100 as a being.

00:33:41.840 From the very first moment

00:33:43.180 that I was a being

00:33:44.580 existing

00:33:45.320 in any form,

00:33:46.980 I must have had

00:33:48.260 that intrinsic worth.

00:33:48.940 If I didn't have it then,

00:33:50.200 then I can't possibly

00:33:51.100 have intrinsic worth now.

00:33:52.600 You could say

00:33:53.880 that I have some other

00:33:54.560 kind of subjective worth,

00:33:56.540 but I don't believe

00:33:57.780 that humans have

00:33:58.340 just subjective worth.

00:33:59.400 I think they have

00:33:59.780 intrinsic worth.

00:34:01.580 So,

00:34:02.080 if we have intrinsic worth,

00:34:03.000 if you believe that,

00:34:04.240 then you must believe

00:34:05.080 that human embryos

00:34:06.540 have intrinsic worth too.

00:34:08.420 But this hypothetical

00:34:09.440 doesn't touch on that,

00:34:10.640 has nothing to do with it.

00:34:12.060 And I think the way

00:34:13.040 to demonstrate that,

00:34:14.740 Jacob,

00:34:15.180 is with another hypothetical.

00:34:17.220 Let's say you were

00:34:18.280 in a burning building,

00:34:19.700 maybe something

00:34:20.220 a little bit more realistic,

00:34:21.280 though still improbable.

00:34:23.960 Let's say you were

00:34:24.440 in a burning building.

00:34:26.220 There's a three-year-old

00:34:27.200 child there

00:34:28.020 and a 87-year-old man

00:34:32.500 with terminal cancer.

00:34:35.580 And you could only save one.

00:34:37.840 Which one are you going to save?

00:34:39.960 Well,

00:34:40.900 I think most people

00:34:41.820 would save the child, right?

00:34:44.660 Probably the 87-year-old man

00:34:46.480 would save the child.

00:34:47.740 But even if he didn't,

00:34:49.460 even if they're both pleading,

00:34:50.480 and you could only save one,

00:34:51.840 you're going to save the child.

00:34:54.100 That's not the same as killing.

00:34:55.440 Let's be clear about this also.

00:34:56.960 Just because you save one

00:34:57.860 doesn't mean in any way

00:34:59.460 that you killed

00:35:00.620 or brought about

00:35:01.520 the death of the other person.

00:35:03.340 You just were only able

00:35:04.560 to save one.

00:35:05.500 You would like to save both.

00:35:06.520 You couldn't.

00:35:08.500 But if you save

00:35:09.280 the three-year-old child,

00:35:09.980 does that mean that

00:35:10.920 the 87-year-old man

00:35:12.440 with terminal cancer

00:35:13.160 isn't a human life?

00:35:14.260 No.

00:35:15.140 Does it mean that his life

00:35:16.080 is worth less?

00:35:17.160 No, not at all.

00:35:18.080 Not at all.

00:35:18.600 Not even a little bit.

00:35:20.460 It's just that you had

00:35:21.640 to make the decision

00:35:22.460 based on other things.

00:35:23.940 You weren't making it

00:35:24.760 based on which is a life.

00:35:26.580 You weren't making it

00:35:27.200 based on whose life

00:35:27.960 is worth more.

00:35:28.760 Those are not

00:35:29.300 your considerations.

00:35:30.480 And I would venture to say

00:35:31.560 in that moment,

00:35:33.300 that's also,

00:35:34.040 that's not,

00:35:34.760 that's not going to all

00:35:35.540 be what you're thinking.

00:35:36.440 You're not going to sit there

00:35:36.980 and think,

00:35:37.280 well, which life

00:35:37.860 is worth more?

00:35:40.620 Which one of these

00:35:41.360 is more human than the other?

00:35:42.580 No, you're not thinking that.

00:35:43.320 Probably in the moment,

00:35:46.000 it's more of an instinctive choice.

00:35:47.680 It's an emotional choice.

00:35:49.980 And if you have any,

00:35:51.440 if there's any thought process at all,

00:35:52.920 you're going to think,

00:35:53.580 well, you know,

00:35:54.900 this child has the potential

00:35:58.180 to live a long and healthy life

00:36:00.740 if I save him.

00:36:02.920 This old man is unfortunately

00:36:05.040 at the end of his life anyway.

00:36:07.840 And so it's a horrible choice

00:36:09.780 to have to make,

00:36:10.500 but it just seems like

00:36:11.420 the most just thing to do

00:36:12.900 is to save the child.

00:36:16.220 And so you make

00:36:17.340 a similar calculation,

00:36:18.620 I think, with the embryos,

00:36:19.720 although on a little bit

00:36:20.840 of a different basis.

00:36:22.520 I think the basis there

00:36:23.860 is partly,

00:36:25.300 well, this child

00:36:26.580 has the capacity for suffering

00:36:28.480 that the embryos

00:36:30.700 probably do not.

00:36:33.220 So I'm going to leave,

00:36:35.260 to leave the child there

00:36:36.540 is to consign him

00:36:38.700 to a horrifically painful death

00:36:40.740 that he will suffer and feel.

00:36:43.920 And also,

00:36:45.020 this child,

00:36:46.520 if you save the child

00:36:47.580 and you bring him

00:36:48.320 out of the building,

00:36:49.000 he's going to probably go on,

00:36:50.420 barring tragedy,

00:36:51.520 he's going to go on

00:36:52.320 to live a life.

00:36:54.140 He's going to walk off

00:36:55.620 and go to his parents

00:36:56.320 and continue living,

00:36:57.820 whereas with the embryos,

00:36:58.960 frozen embryos,

00:36:59.760 I mean, who knows

00:37:00.520 what will happen.

00:37:02.400 They could end up

00:37:03.240 being destroyed anyway.

00:37:05.060 There's nothing,

00:37:06.020 there's no guarantee

00:37:06.960 at all

00:37:07.420 that all of these embryos

00:37:09.540 are going to go on

00:37:10.260 to be implanted

00:37:11.660 in a womb

00:37:12.300 and develop

00:37:13.520 and have an actual,

00:37:16.500 live an actual life

00:37:18.400 in that sense.

00:37:20.880 So you might make

00:37:22.160 the determination

00:37:22.760 based on that as well.

00:37:24.100 But these are,

00:37:26.420 again,

00:37:26.860 none of it has anything

00:37:27.620 to do with

00:37:28.180 the question of

00:37:30.420 intrinsic worth

00:37:31.900 or anything like that.

00:37:32.840 Thanks for the question.

00:37:33.880 From Sam says,

00:37:35.580 on Sunday at my youth group,

00:37:36.820 my leader gave a talk

00:37:37.820 about whether or not

00:37:38.960 we should allow

00:37:40.040 LGBT people

00:37:42.340 into the church.

00:37:43.300 I, being a conservative

00:37:44.440 and Catholic,

00:37:45.200 said that while we should

00:37:46.300 have compassion

00:37:46.800 and respect for these people,

00:37:47.840 we should not let them

00:37:48.620 be a part of the church

00:37:49.600 because their choices

00:37:50.440 go against Christian teachings

00:37:51.820 while everyone else

00:37:53.520 said that the church

00:37:54.280 needs to change

00:37:55.120 with the times

00:37:55.880 and learn that it's okay

00:37:57.280 to live your life like that.

00:37:58.960 I'm curious to know

00:37:59.780 your thoughts on this

00:38:01.340 and I should go about

00:38:02.880 expressing more

00:38:03.500 traditional opinions.

00:38:04.560 Should I go about

00:38:05.060 expressing more

00:38:05.640 traditional opinions

00:38:06.380 with this group

00:38:06.940 because it doesn't seem

00:38:07.700 like these people

00:38:08.280 really agree with me

00:38:09.740 on most things.

00:38:10.760 Well, Sam,

00:38:11.060 I'm a little bit concerned

00:38:12.120 about this conversation

00:38:14.660 you had with your youth group

00:38:16.800 because it sounds like

00:38:19.060 your youth group leader,

00:38:20.260 unless something was lost

00:38:21.300 in translation here,

00:38:22.100 which is possible,

00:38:23.060 it sounds like

00:38:23.420 your youth group leader

00:38:24.160 presented one heck

00:38:26.200 of a false choice here.

00:38:27.340 one choice is

00:38:29.160 it seems

00:38:29.800 they're not allowed

00:38:30.540 in the church at all

00:38:31.240 and the other choice is

00:38:32.200 we abandon our biblical teaching

00:38:37.660 and our moral code

00:38:39.380 and we say that

00:38:40.360 it sounds like

00:38:43.020 from what you've presented

00:38:43.780 those were the two choices given

00:38:45.260 when in reality

00:38:47.160 those are not at all

00:38:48.060 the two choices.

00:38:49.940 Of course we let anyone

00:38:51.360 into the church.

00:38:53.860 Anyone can come into church.

00:38:55.640 We welcome all people.

00:38:57.340 Especially sinners.

00:38:59.120 Because everyone is.

00:39:00.780 Right?

00:39:02.240 So no,

00:39:02.900 we welcome everyone

00:39:03.600 into the church.

00:39:04.320 The question is

00:39:05.200 when it comes to

00:39:07.820 biblical teaching,

00:39:09.340 when it comes to

00:39:11.280 the teachings of Jesus Christ,

00:39:13.740 when it comes to

00:39:14.160 the teachings of the church

00:39:15.060 for the last 2,000 years,

00:39:16.340 do we abandon those

00:39:17.940 just because

00:39:20.680 they are difficult

00:39:21.880 or just because

00:39:23.420 they're offensive

00:39:24.300 to certain people?

00:39:25.280 and the answer there

00:39:25.960 is no.

00:39:27.500 So I think that's how

00:39:28.540 you split the difference there.

00:39:30.500 We welcome everyone

00:39:31.440 into the church.

00:39:32.120 We don't abandon

00:39:32.840 the moral teachings.

00:39:35.500 For anybody,

00:39:36.380 by the way,

00:39:36.740 not just for

00:39:37.360 gay people.

00:39:39.200 I mean,

00:39:39.700 there are

00:39:40.000 anyone that comes

00:39:41.900 into the church

00:39:42.420 and is living

00:39:45.220 their life

00:39:45.640 in a certain way

00:39:46.200 or would prefer

00:39:47.440 if, you know,

00:39:48.100 a certain thing

00:39:49.480 wasn't considered a sin

00:39:50.520 because it makes

00:39:51.060 their life more...

00:39:51.620 No, we should not

00:39:53.400 be compromising

00:39:54.040 on any level.

00:39:58.000 Finally,

00:39:58.500 this is from

00:39:58.880 Neresa.

00:39:59.400 It says,

00:39:59.680 Oh, wise and highly

00:40:00.540 revered future

00:40:01.160 supreme leader.

00:40:01.840 Eight months ago,

00:40:02.400 I became a mom

00:40:03.760 to an awesome little girl.

00:40:04.880 Parenting is by far

00:40:05.920 the greatest thing

00:40:07.000 I've ever done

00:40:07.580 or ever will do.

00:40:08.520 It is amazing

00:40:09.120 and miraculous

00:40:09.700 beyond comprehension

00:40:11.180 and explanation,

00:40:12.340 but I am sure

00:40:13.240 you don't need me

00:40:14.000 to tell you that.

00:40:15.060 On the flip side,

00:40:15.680 though,

00:40:15.880 parenting has made me

00:40:16.620 acutely aware

00:40:17.300 of my own

00:40:17.840 personal shortcomings.

00:40:19.120 I tend to be

00:40:19.620 very logical,

00:40:20.400 practical,

00:40:21.340 generally serious.

00:40:22.380 Creativity,

00:40:22.880 for me,

00:40:23.240 presents itself

00:40:24.060 in the form

00:40:24.420 of a very well-executed

00:40:25.460 Excel spreadsheet.

00:40:27.260 Basically,

00:40:27.720 I completely lack

00:40:28.400 imagination.

00:40:29.120 This becomes glaring

00:40:30.100 in my efforts

00:40:30.740 to not speak

00:40:31.380 to my eight-month-old

00:40:32.880 as if she is an adult,

00:40:33.820 to play games with her,

00:40:34.780 to give her toy voices,

00:40:36.180 to give her toys' voices

00:40:37.380 and storylines,

00:40:38.180 etc.

00:40:39.300 I humbly ask

00:40:39.980 if this is something

00:40:40.640 that you struggle

00:40:41.980 with as a parent,

00:40:42.640 and if so,

00:40:43.680 do you have any

00:40:44.160 suggestions

00:40:44.940 on how to be

00:40:45.600 more imaginative

00:40:46.580 and creative

00:40:47.160 with her now

00:40:48.040 as she gets older?

00:40:49.740 Well,

00:40:50.020 I would say,

00:40:52.600 first of all,

00:40:53.420 I've struggled

00:40:54.120 with many things

00:40:54.860 as a parent.

00:40:55.260 Pretty much everything

00:40:56.060 has been a struggle

00:40:57.120 for me.

00:41:00.800 But what I would say

00:41:02.140 here is

00:41:02.760 if your greatest flaw

00:41:06.460 as a parent

00:41:06.980 at this point

00:41:07.660 early on

00:41:08.140 in your journey

00:41:08.640 is that you're

00:41:09.800 too organized,

00:41:10.840 then you're

00:41:11.820 in really good shape.

00:41:12.940 I would say

00:41:13.660 don't worry

00:41:14.040 about it at all.

00:41:15.020 Really don't.

00:41:16.460 I wish I had this.

00:41:18.760 This idea of

00:41:19.900 I don't even know

00:41:20.960 what I couldn't

00:41:21.900 even begin

00:41:22.240 to make a spreadsheet.

00:41:23.040 I don't even know

00:41:23.320 what it looks like.

00:41:24.420 I can't even wrap

00:41:25.220 my head around that.

00:41:27.720 So as someone

00:41:28.500 with no organizational

00:41:29.760 capacity whatsoever,

00:41:32.140 when I look at you,

00:41:33.520 I'm deeply envious.

00:41:35.720 So that would be

00:41:36.700 my first answer

00:41:37.480 is don't worry

00:41:38.200 too much about it.

00:41:38.820 But the other thing is,

00:41:39.940 listen,

00:41:40.360 you should have

00:41:40.620 she's eight months old.

00:41:42.460 At eight months old,

00:41:43.820 there's playing games

00:41:45.240 with an eight-month-old.

00:41:47.280 There's not a lot

00:41:49.460 she can really do

00:41:51.260 in terms of playing games.

00:41:52.500 She's just not there yet

00:41:53.660 cognitively.

00:41:54.980 So I think

00:41:55.760 the most important thing

00:41:56.760 at eight months old

00:41:57.500 is just that

00:41:58.340 it sounds like

00:41:59.080 this is what you're

00:41:59.700 already doing.

00:42:00.160 You love your child,

00:42:01.120 okay?

00:42:02.080 Obviously,

00:42:02.700 you're spending time

00:42:04.100 with her.

00:42:05.240 You're giving her

00:42:05.960 that bonding.

00:42:06.980 And so that's it.

00:42:07.820 I really wouldn't

00:42:08.540 worry about it.

00:42:09.480 As long as you're

00:42:10.220 spending a lot of time

00:42:11.060 with her

00:42:11.440 and you're giving her

00:42:12.040 that love and affection,

00:42:12.880 which it sounds like

00:42:13.460 you're doing in spades,

00:42:14.700 then it really doesn't,

00:42:16.400 it's okay.

00:42:16.860 That's all she really needs.

00:42:19.220 As she gets older,

00:42:20.740 as a child gets older,

00:42:22.220 that's when playing

00:42:23.360 becomes more important

00:42:25.060 and more active

00:42:26.640 and more participatory,

00:42:28.520 I suppose.

00:42:30.020 And I do think

00:42:30.860 you want to play

00:42:31.340 with the child,

00:42:32.140 but I'll tell you

00:42:33.640 what I do.

00:42:35.100 Now,

00:42:35.560 in some,

00:42:35.900 I say I struggle

00:42:36.440 with everything as a parent.

00:42:37.560 I don't struggle

00:42:38.200 quite as much with this,

00:42:39.300 what you're talking about

00:42:40.880 because I have

00:42:42.240 the opposite problem

00:42:42.900 of you.

00:42:43.200 I'm not organized.

00:42:44.520 I'm also,

00:42:45.120 I think,

00:42:45.580 at the end of the day,

00:42:46.560 deeply immature.

00:42:48.280 So I have no problem

00:42:49.320 playing childish games

00:42:50.400 with my kids

00:42:50.920 because I kind of

00:42:51.620 enjoy them too.

00:42:53.240 So,

00:42:53.640 you know,

00:42:53.840 the other day

00:42:54.380 we went down

00:42:54.760 and played

00:42:55.020 Floor is Lava

00:42:55.680 and I had a blast.

00:42:57.320 It was just fun.

00:42:57.960 It was fun to do.

00:42:59.220 So,

00:42:59.720 I miss playing Floor.

00:43:01.040 I mean,

00:43:01.200 it's a lot of fun.

00:43:01.800 You're pretending

00:43:02.060 the floor is lava,

00:43:02.740 you're jumping

00:43:03.020 from thing to thing.

00:43:03.960 And I played that

00:43:04.400 with the kids.

00:43:04.760 If you're more

00:43:07.060 of an adult than I am,

00:43:08.020 which it sounds

00:43:08.380 like you are,

00:43:09.540 that might not come

00:43:10.460 as naturally to you.

00:43:11.480 But here's what I would say.

00:43:13.080 As the child gets older,

00:43:14.360 I think when it comes

00:43:14.960 to playing with the child,

00:43:17.740 yeah,

00:43:19.180 you can try

00:43:19.640 to incorporate yourself

00:43:20.720 into the things

00:43:21.480 that they do

00:43:22.180 as children,

00:43:22.860 which is important.

00:43:24.180 But it's also

00:43:24.940 really important

00:43:25.400 to incorporate them

00:43:26.380 into the things

00:43:26.820 that you do.

00:43:28.300 So,

00:43:28.860 you find things

00:43:29.600 that you enjoy

00:43:30.480 and you,

00:43:32.680 you say it was a girl,

00:43:34.720 your daughter,

00:43:36.100 you incorporate

00:43:37.040 your daughter

00:43:37.460 into those things.

00:43:39.040 And I do that

00:43:39.760 with my kids as well.

00:43:41.560 Because,

00:43:42.000 yeah,

00:43:42.120 there are some

00:43:42.520 childish games

00:43:43.220 that I enjoy playing,

00:43:44.140 but much that I don't,

00:43:45.920 it does get boring

00:43:46.540 after a while.

00:43:49.500 And I think

00:43:50.240 after a while

00:43:50.640 the kids can tell

00:43:51.280 that you're sort of bored

00:43:52.020 even if you're faking it.

00:43:53.820 So,

00:43:54.320 think about things

00:43:55.020 you like to do

00:43:55.780 and just have them

00:43:56.460 do that with you.

00:43:57.320 And I think

00:43:59.320 that's very important

00:44:00.060 for the kid.

00:44:01.320 They're going to learn

00:44:01.880 a lot from that.

00:44:02.880 They're going to learn

00:44:03.340 a lot from seeing

00:44:04.160 you do the things

00:44:04.940 you're passionate about

00:44:05.820 and they're going

00:44:06.800 to be thrilled

00:44:07.380 by the fact

00:44:07.900 that you're incorporating

00:44:08.560 them into that

00:44:09.140 no matter what it is.

00:44:09.960 It doesn't matter

00:44:10.380 what it is.

00:44:12.720 Even things like

00:44:13.520 what we watch on TV.

00:44:14.900 Like,

00:44:15.060 if I'm going to sit down

00:44:15.940 and watch TV

00:44:17.860 with my kids,

00:44:19.100 I'm sorry,

00:44:19.660 I'm not sitting down

00:44:20.340 and watching Peppa Pig

00:44:21.200 with my kids.

00:44:21.880 I'm just not doing it.

00:44:22.620 I can't.

00:44:23.880 Maybe that's another flaw

00:44:24.840 as a parent.

00:44:25.360 I don't have the patience.

00:44:26.280 I can't sit down

00:44:26.920 to watch a kid's show

00:44:27.740 with kids.

00:44:28.560 I absolutely cannot do it.

00:44:29.680 I cannot stomach it.

00:44:31.540 So,

00:44:31.940 I'll find something

00:44:32.620 that I'm interested

00:44:33.500 in watching

00:44:34.000 that's appropriate

00:44:35.340 and I'll have them

00:44:36.260 watch it with me

00:44:36.820 and they love it

00:44:37.460 because they develop

00:44:39.240 those same interests

00:44:40.140 and they can tell

00:44:41.400 that I'm interested

00:44:42.240 in it,

00:44:42.580 so that makes

00:44:43.020 them interested.

00:44:44.420 So,

00:44:44.640 for me,

00:44:44.920 one thing,

00:44:45.280 especially on Saturday

00:44:45.820 mornings,

00:44:46.300 a lot of times,

00:44:46.980 we'll sit down

00:44:47.600 and we'll watch

00:44:48.000 a nature documentary.

00:44:48.920 I like nature documentaries.

00:44:50.220 It's educational.

00:44:51.560 Kids love it

00:44:52.340 and so we'll sit there

00:44:54.140 for an hour

00:44:54.900 and we'll watch

00:44:55.420 a documentary

00:44:56.000 about ants

00:44:57.400 in the jungle

00:44:57.920 or whatever

00:44:58.480 and they can tell

00:45:00.320 I'm interested.

00:45:01.000 It gives us

00:45:01.200 something to talk about

00:45:02.060 and it's a win-win

00:45:06.720 for everybody.

00:45:07.920 But congratulations,

00:45:09.000 by the way,

00:45:09.460 on motherhood.

00:45:11.240 Sounds like you're

00:45:11.820 off to a good start.

00:45:12.780 We'll leave it there.

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00:45:13.860 for watching.

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00:45:57.480 Hey, everyone.

00:45:58.360 It's Andrew Klavan,

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00:46:01.320 Here in New York,

00:46:02.420 liberals are wishing

00:46:03.240 each other

00:46:03.700 Merry Impeachment Day

00:46:05.120 to reflect their

00:46:06.300 deep sorrow

00:46:07.080 and prayerful seriousness

00:46:08.360 about this so-called

00:46:09.360 historic moment.

00:46:10.720 But meanwhile,

00:46:11.340 the real history

00:46:12.120 they know nothing about.

00:46:13.420 That's being made

00:46:13.960 by those uncovering

00:46:14.920 the Comey FBI scandal.

00:46:17.080 We'll talk about that

00:46:18.020 and we'll have the mailbag

00:46:18.940 so all your problems

00:46:19.700 will be solved.

00:46:20.660 Merry Christmas.

00:46:21.480 I'm Andrew Klavan.

00:46:22.160 Merry Christmas.

00:46:23.000 Merry Christmas.

00:46:45.720 Merry Christmas.

The Matt Walsh Show - December 18, 2019

Ep. 393 - The Myth Of Fiscal Conservatism

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