The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 395 - Leftism Is A Religious Cult

00:00:00.000 Merry Christmas, everybody. Welcome to the last show before Christmas, the last show before

00:00:04.300 the end of the year, in fact. So there was a debate last night. There was a debate last night.

00:00:11.520 And that's the end of my analysis on that subject. So moving on, we'll talk about J.K. Rowling

00:00:16.740 and leftism's increasing plunge into the realm of being a superstitious cult rather than a

00:00:26.080 political ideology. Many examples could be presented, of course, to prove that point. But

00:00:30.580 this week's controversy, quote unquote, controversy surrounding J.K. Rowling, I think, should suffice.

00:00:35.860 So for a little bit of background, there's this woman named Maya Forstater. And she's a researcher

00:00:43.560 in the United Kingdom who recently lost her job for stating the scientific and indisputable fact

00:00:50.060 that men cannot turn into women. That's what she said. Men cannot turn into women. And Forstater 0.97

00:00:57.740 lost her job. She went to court to win her job back. But an employment judge ruled against her this week

00:01:03.640 and said that Forstater's belief in biological science is, quote, not worthy of respect in a

00:01:11.800 democratic society. Actually, let me quote from this judge a little bit more at length, because I think

00:01:16.060 you need to hear this. This is Judge James Taylor. No relation, I assume. He says, if a person has

00:01:23.340 transitioned from male to female and has a gender recognition certificate, more on that in a second,

00:01:29.420 that person is legally a woman. That is not something Mrs. Forstater is entitled to ignore. 0.99

00:01:36.220 Ms. Forstater's position is that even if a trans woman has a GRC, she cannot honestly describe

00:01:42.280 herself as a woman. That belief is not worthy of respect in a democratic society. Even paying due 1.00

00:01:49.160 regards is still the judge. To the qualified right to freedom of expression, people cannot expect to be

00:01:54.700 protected if their core belief involves violating others' dignity and creating an intimidating,

00:01:59.980 hostile, degrading, humiliating, or offensive environment for them. I mean, this is shocking.

00:02:07.620 And let's not be so jaded by the left's insanity that we don't appreciate how extra insane this is.

00:02:14.820 First of all, you have the gender recognition certificate. I went to the website,

00:02:18.700 the government website, where you go if you want to get a gender recognition certificate. So if you

00:02:24.160 want to get your gender recognized in the UK, go to this website. This is how they describe the

00:02:30.340 process of getting a gender recognition certificate. It says, apply to get to the gender recognition panel

00:02:36.480 the gender recognition panel for a gender recognition certificate. No, by the way, I'm not reading

00:02:45.080 something from a dystopian fiction novel. This is real. This is an actual thing. Okay. Apply to the

00:02:51.240 gender recognition panel for a gender recognition certificate. If you want your acquired gender to 1.00

00:02:57.220 be legally recognized in the UK, there are three different ways to get a certificate. Which one you

00:03:02.240 use depends on your situation. Here's the standard route. Apply by the standard route if all of the

00:03:09.700 following are true. You're 18 or over. You've been diagnosed with gender dysphoria. You've lived in your 0.92

00:03:17.140 acquired gender for at least two years. And you intend to live in your acquired gender for the rest of your 0.98

00:03:23.480 life. Okay. That's how you get a certificate. Now, uh, lived in your acquired gender, lived in acquired 0.94

00:03:38.340 gender. What the hell does any of that mean? Could anyone give me, I don't know, three sentences

00:03:48.200 explaining exactly what that means? How do you live in a gender? How do you live in a gender?

00:03:56.800 And how do you acquire one? And from where do you acquire it? Just, just think of how this would

00:04:03.480 sound in normal conversation. Oh, I acquired my male gender when I was 22. Yeah. I've been living in it

00:04:08.040 for 10 years. So not bad. Maybe a little problem with the transmission. Might have to take it back to the

00:04:12.180 dealership. Again, where are you acquiring this gender from and how do you acquire it? And what

00:04:19.920 does that mean to acquire it? And living in a gender, this, this is, this, this part of the

00:04:26.600 superstition of, of the modern left. What they have created is the weirdest kind of dualism that the

00:04:34.280 world has ever seen. Where they, they're sort of separating the person where you as a, you, you as a

00:04:41.440 person, you are this kind of genderless, amorphous entity sort of floating around. And then your gender 0.95

00:04:52.560 is something that you select out of the ether and put on like a sweater or get inside like a car and

00:04:59.860 just drive it around. That's the way they're presenting how the, this works. And it, it's, it's,

00:05:07.440 oh, the only thing you can call that is religious doctrine. It's certainly not science and it makes

00:05:14.860 no logical sense. And what is the judge saying? Is he saying that the government's decision to

00:05:21.140 recognize your acquired gender, whatever that means, magically makes you into that gender,

00:05:27.000 turns you into that gender? Because Forstater's point about, was, was, was not just about the

00:05:35.040 government's recognition. Forstater's point was about what a person actually is. She was saying

00:05:40.800 that a biological male can't actually turn into a woman. So if this judge is disagreeing,

00:05:47.460 he must be saying that a man who gets this certificate is actually now a woman.

00:05:53.940 That again is a supernatural claim. That is religious dogma. This is like a, this is like a perverse

00:06:00.040 version of transubstantiation or something. Instead of the Eucharist turning into the, to the body and 0.56

00:06:05.120 blood of Christ, this is a man supernaturally transforming into a woman by the, by the incantation

00:06:11.820 of a government bureaucrat. That's, that's what they're saying. In fact, here's one of, just so we

00:06:17.680 understand the context here, here's one of Forstater's tweets specifically. Here's what she said.

00:06:23.620 I share the concerns of at fair play women that radically expanding the legal definition of women

00:06:30.460 so that it can include both males and females makes it a meaningless concept and will undermine

00:06:35.860 women's rights and protections for vulnerable women and girls. That's what she said. And keep in mind,

00:06:42.740 this judge didn't just say that she was wrong in this blatantly obvious assertion on her part.

00:06:48.840 The judge said that there's, it's, it's, it's so wrong. It is so vile, so disgusting, so horrible

00:06:55.080 that there's no place for it in society. But can anyone respond to the point she made? Can any of

00:07:02.160 the superstitious cultists who believe in the fluidity of gender actually respond to the point

00:07:08.500 that she made? The point she's making is that if, yes, if you expand this, if you expand woman to

00:07:14.720 include males, then the word woman doesn't mean anything anymore. What does it mean? Now we'll

00:07:19.740 get back to that in a second as well. Um, he also ruled that her views on biology do not have the 0.90

00:07:27.200 protected characteristic of philosophical belief. And on that point, I think he's actually correct

00:07:32.240 because it's not a philosophical belief that men can't transition into women. That's not a

00:07:36.840 philosophical belief. That is a scientific fact, but a fact that these days just cannot be stated

00:07:43.400 publicly without being punished. So here's where JK Rowling comes in. Uh, and, and this is where

00:07:48.860 she gets in line for cancellation. The author came to four stater's defense, but did so in the mildest

00:07:56.540 and most leftist friendly way possible. Or so she, or so she thought. So she wrote on Twitter,

00:08:04.140 Rowling did, um, dress however you please call yourself, whatever you like sleep with any consenting

00:08:10.880 adult who will have you live your best life and peace and security, but force women out of their 1.00

00:08:16.480 jobs for stating that sex is real question mark. And then hashtag I stand with Maya. That was it.

00:08:25.220 That's what she said. Rowling here. She affirms the relativistic libertine position on every point,

00:08:32.620 except she is not willing to profess biological sex as a figment of our imagination. 0.99

00:08:37.580 So simply for suggesting that sex exists, Rowling has found herself in the middle of a leftist

00:08:46.660 firestorm. And you've got thousands of these science hating lunatics who are calling her bigoted 1.00

00:08:52.640 and transphobic and on and on and on all because she relayed a fact, an indisputable fact.

00:09:00.480 By the way, there've been a lot of comments to Rowling. Um, a lot of the responses

00:09:04.600 would be hilarious if you didn't consider the fact that this is, that these people exist in the

00:09:12.860 millions out there, people that are this insane. Uh, but here's one example. There's a lot of

00:09:18.100 comments like this. This one is from Shamir Sani on Twitter. It's got a blue check. So you know that

00:09:22.720 his opinion matters. He says, as a gay man that found safety in Hogwarts throughout my childhood,

00:09:28.100 knowing that trans people wouldn't be able to have that safety breaks my heart. There was, again,

00:09:33.720 there's a lot of that kind of stuff. A lot of people heartbroken to discover that trans people

00:09:38.380 aren't welcome at Hogwarts, uh, which is a school for wizards and which by the way, doesn't exist.

00:09:45.180 And I would make fun of them. I guess I know a little bit how they feel because I'll never forget

00:09:48.640 when I first discovered that Batman won't let me into the Batcave. Very difficult to deal with.

00:09:54.860 It crushed me, but Hey, at least we can all go to the Shire and hang out with, uh, Bilbo Baggins.

00:10:00.880 We still have that at least. Now you could argue that, that JK Rowling deserves to be eaten by the 0.57

00:10:07.480 alligator. She's been feeding all these years. She's a leftist herself. She's been, she's been 0.68

00:10:12.400 encouraging and, and jumping in with, um, the pitch, the leftist pitchfork mob. She's done that many

00:10:21.340 times. And so maybe this, this, she has all this coming and, and, and probably she does,

00:10:27.220 but it is worth highlighting her plight. I think, because it underscores the point

00:10:31.560 that I made at the top, which is that leftist gender theory is a superstition and leftism is a

00:10:38.040 cult. And I have no doubt that, uh, certainly anthropologists of the future, when they're sifting

00:10:45.300 through the wreckage of our once great civilization, that is the conclusion they will come to.

00:10:50.940 You know, when they're going through and discovering things like, uh, Oh wow, those ancient people in

00:10:57.580 2019 thought that they could literally change boys into girls. The only conclusion they could come to

00:11:05.980 is that this is that this, this was some sort of insane supernatural cult that grabbed hold of,

00:11:11.980 uh, of American society. And that's exactly what happened now on a related note and inspired by the,

00:11:19.740 the latest bit of madness, uh, that we've been talking about. I, I, I, I would like to repeat

00:11:27.440 again, a challenge I've made to the left several times. And I wrote a piece yesterday, reiterating

00:11:33.700 this challenge. I put it up on Twitter only now I'm going to, I'm going to up the ante a little bit

00:11:38.960 as I announced on Twitter yesterday, I will, this, this is my offer. Okay. I will give,

00:11:46.720 and I'm dead serious about this. I will give a hundred dollars, not saying it's a ton of money,

00:11:51.660 but Hey, it's, it, this is a hundred bucks. I'm willing to give somebody for, for really nothing,

00:11:57.280 for no effort. I mean, why wouldn't you take it? Here's all you have to do for a hundred bucks.

00:12:01.500 And I'll say, then I'll Venmo it to y'all PayPal, whatever you want to do.

00:12:04.620 I will give a hundred dollars to the first leftist who can provide me with a coherent definition of

00:12:14.420 the word woman that permits biological males to be included yet still maintains womanhood as a 0.94

00:12:24.020 distinguishable and objective category. A hundred bucks. Okay. Around the holidays,

00:12:31.140 you could use a hundred bucks. Couldn't you now it's, it is my contention that this simple

00:12:38.080 question, as I have said many times, and I'll keep going back to it over and over and over again,

00:12:42.440 but this simple question, what is a woman? I believe completely dismantles left-wing gender 1.00

00:12:48.380 theory in its entirety. Um, I claim that everything the left says about gender can be discredited

00:12:56.480 just by posing this question. All you have to say is what is a woman and you win the argument 1.00

00:13:03.120 because after all, a statement like I identify as a woman can have no meaning if the word woman has no

00:13:12.020 meaning. And certainly if there's no difference between women and men, then for a man to identify

00:13:18.220 as a woman is redundant. He might as well identify as a man. When he identifies as a woman, he's identifying 0.61

00:13:22.660 as a woman. So the whole thing is redundant and pointless. In fact, all statements, all statements 0.99

00:13:31.620 that anyone has ever made about women become incoherent. If we don't have a working definition

00:13:36.980 of the term itself, this is not a trick question. This is not a gotcha moment. This is a very fair,

00:13:44.340 very basic question. You are using the word woman, not just using the word, but you are making 0.84

00:13:50.300 an extraordinary claim about the nature of womanhood by saying that this biological male

00:13:57.860 with a function with functioning male reproductive organs can be a woman. I think it's how else could 1.00

00:14:05.420 I possibly respond to that? But by asking, what do you mean by woman? What do you mean by that?

00:14:13.260 That's all I want to know. Now, the problem for the left is that they need the word woman to mean 1.00

00:14:18.680 something in order for feminist and LGBT rhetoric to have any relevance whatsoever. But any attempt

00:14:24.840 to define the word woman must result automatically in the exclusion of biological males. There simply

00:14:32.520 is no available definition of woman that legitimizes transgenderism. If it means anything for a woman to

00:14:39.620 be a woman, then it cannot mean anything when a man says that he is one. So here's, this is what I'm

00:14:49.460 getting at. And I think this is so important. This stuff about transgenderism, it's not just

00:14:58.280 scientifically invalid. It is scientifically invalid. But it's more than that. It is logically invalid.

00:15:05.620 It is illogical. Which is very important. Because it's not just that the left is promoting a crazy

00:15:12.620 new scientific theory. It's that they're making a claim that is logically incoherent, and thus dismissible

00:15:20.380 out of hand. What they're saying is the equivalent of claiming that a circle has four sides.

00:15:28.640 That's, that's, that's, that's not a, there's nothing to even talk about. That is, that is just nonsense.

00:15:36.600 That cannot be true. Even if you, even if you had supernatural powers, God himself could not make

00:15:45.640 it so that a circle has four, four sides. Because it's illogical. It doesn't mean anything.

00:15:51.580 And that's what I'm saying with, with these claims. It's, it's, forget about the science for

00:15:59.220 a second. It is simply illogical. But, um, you know, if, if I'm wrong, then prove that I'm wrong.

00:16:07.340 Just give me a definition. That's all. Just a definition. I'll give you a hundred bucks. You got

00:16:13.640 nothing to lose. So far, no one's been willing to do it or able to do it. Um, and that's, what's so

00:16:23.040 amazing about this is that the left's gender theories, uh, transgender ideology and all that,

00:16:30.240 it is, it is absolutely indefensible. They can't defend it. They can't even begin to defend it.

00:16:39.340 They can't even define the words they're using. The, the most basic follow-up question to their

00:16:47.400 claim, they can't answer. Well, this biological male's a woman. What do you mean? That's it. 0.92

00:16:54.380 What you're saying, what do you mean? They can't answer that question. You ask, when you, when you

00:16:58.420 just ask for a clarification, what do you mean by that? You've, you've already won. They're already

00:17:02.960 defeated. They can't even go that far. It's incredible. Um, and that's why, you know, in my

00:17:14.000 experience, and I, as you know, I've talked about this many times and I've had many debates about it,

00:17:18.640 many arguments. And in my experience, this is not a straw man. I have honestly, in my life of talking

00:17:25.480 about this, I have only ever heard ever two defenses of this, of the, of transgender ideology,

00:17:33.640 the, you know, the left gender theory generally, I've only ever heard two defenses of it. And that's

00:17:38.420 it. I'll tell you what those two defenses are. These are the only ones I have ever heard. Aside

00:17:43.500 from, you know, the most common one is just screaming at me and calling me a bigot. But, um, the only

00:17:48.900 actual sort of attempts at a defense I've ever heard are, um, one, what about intersex people?

00:17:58.200 And two, this doesn't affect you. Why do you care? Those are the only responses. Those are the only

00:18:03.560 defenses. I have never heard anything else aside from those two. Intersex and how does it affect you?

00:18:09.780 So let me, let me just very quickly, um, deal with those because I know even, you know, that's the

00:18:19.600 responses I'm going to get to this. First of all, with, with intersex people, um, this is a response, 0.98

00:18:27.360 an argument that is both incorrect and completely irrelevant. Incorrect and irrelevant. Why is it

00:18:36.120 irrelevant? Well, because when we talk about this, we're talking about transgender people. Transgender 1.00

00:18:40.720 people are biological, you know, biological males who identify as women or biological females who

00:18:46.420 identify as males. That's what it means. That's what a transgender person is. So the existence of 0.95

00:18:53.500 intersex people does nothing whatsoever to validate the claims of a transgender person.

00:18:59.800 It, there's a two different categories. So it's completely irrelevant.

00:19:04.380 So when I say that, you know, that if you're a biological male, you're a man and that's it,

00:19:12.120 how does it validate the claims of a biological male that he's actually a woman when he points

00:19:19.020 to someone else who is allegedly intersex and has ambiguous genitalia? Okay. That's someone else.

00:19:25.740 That's not you though. So if we, if we were just talking about intersex people, then we would be

00:19:30.520 talking about intersex people, but we're not, we're talking about trans people and that's a

00:19:33.860 completely separate category. So it's irrelevant, completely irrelevant. Um, this would be like

00:19:42.400 if somebody said, if someone made a claim and said, I have three arms. Okay. What if I, what if I

00:19:50.020 right now claim that I have three arms? Okay. Well, I think you can look and see that I don't really

00:19:55.760 have three arms. I only have two, but then what if I said, Oh yeah, well, what about that person

00:20:01.600 over there? He has three arms. And then I could present you with someone with three arms. Even if

00:20:06.680 I could do that, that doesn't mean that I have three arms. That doesn't validate my claim to having

00:20:12.040 three arms because someone else does obviously. Um, but so that's why it's irrelevant. Why is it

00:20:23.100 incorrect? Well, it's incorrect because actually sex is still binary. Sex is a biological sex is a

00:20:30.620 binary proposition. Intersex people are not an exception to that. They do not represent some third

00:20:37.220 biological sex. They don't represent an in-between state. Uh, they don't destroy the binary at all.

00:20:43.340 Again, even if they did, that does absolutely nothing whatsoever to validate the claims of

00:20:50.420 transgender people, but it, but it's not even true. They don't. An intersex person suffers from, uh, 1.00

00:20:56.860 deformity and illness, you know, genetic mutation. And what that means is that their biological sex 0.98

00:21:04.500 is harder to discern because it's not so immediately obvious because of their physical,

00:21:11.260 um, uh, you know, mute genetic mutation. That doesn't mean they don't have a biological sex.

00:21:17.900 It just makes it a little bit harder to tell. That's it. Just like you take someone, let's take

00:21:24.900 somebody with one arm. There are people born with one arm. Okay. That doesn't, that doesn't mean

00:21:30.560 that it's, it's no longer valid to say human beings have two arms. It is a valid statement to say 0.93

00:21:35.940 human beings have two arms. They do. Okay. Just like you can say spiders have eight legs. We can say

00:21:41.700 that. If you present me someone with born with one arm, well, I know automatically that this is

00:21:47.900 somebody with a genetic mutation or some other, something went wrong. And if we're to look at that

00:21:52.480 person and, you know, and, and, and do a medical checkup and all that, and we'll, we'll discover that

00:21:58.100 sure enough, something went wrong. So this is not a new type of person who undermines the, the,

00:22:05.160 the, the statement that people have two arms. This is just someone who was supposed to have two arms,

00:22:09.440 but something went wrong and their right or left arm just didn't show up. And so it's the same thing

00:22:15.420 with intersex people. This is something went wrong. It doesn't, you know, we say the exception 1.00

00:22:21.640 proves the rule. That's the exception that proves the rule. Because when you see an intersex person, 1.00

00:22:26.600 you automatically know there's some sort of genetic problem here. There's some sort of physical

00:22:30.740 problem and, and sure enough. And then the other claim is how does it affect you? Again, irrelevant

00:22:38.620 and, and incorrect. So both of, both of these responses are irrelevant and incorrect. Even if

00:22:45.440 it doesn't affect me, that does nothing to, to legitimize the fact, the claims of fact that are

00:22:51.740 being made. So if you, you know, if we're having an argument about what is the capital of Maryland

00:22:56.620 and you're saying it's Baltimore and I'm correctly pointing out that it's Annapolis. And then I pull

00:23:02.040 out a map and show you sure enough, it's Annapolis. You can't say, well, how does it affect you that

00:23:07.420 I'm saying Baltimore is the capital of Maryland? It might not affect me, but you're still wrong.

00:23:11.300 We're not talking about how the argument is not, how am I affected by your claim about the capital

00:23:16.760 of Maryland? The argument is what is the capital of Maryland? And you're wrong. So affect me, who

00:23:23.040 cares? What difference does that make? The argument here is about the nature of biological sex and

00:23:29.360 gender. What are the facts of the case? It's not about who's affected by it.

00:23:38.060 So that's why it's irrelevant, but it's also incorrect. Because if we were having an argument,

00:23:42.760 say, and I think this is more analogous, if we were having an argument about basic arithmetic

00:23:46.840 and you were claiming that two plus two equals seven, and I'm pointing out that no, two plus two

00:23:54.580 equals four, and then I pull out four apples and I demonstrate it for you, or I get out a calculator

00:23:59.180 and I show you, and then you say, how does it affect you? It doesn't affect you that I'm saying

00:24:03.640 two plus two equals seven. Well, irrelevant. Okay. You're still wrong. I'm right.

00:24:08.020 But it really would affect me if you then turn around and organize a nationwide campaign

00:24:17.960 to convince everybody that two plus two equals seven, and to punish those who claim that two

00:24:24.240 plus two equals four, and to indoctrinate our kids into the belief that two plus two equals seven.

00:24:31.380 When you start doing that, it very much affects me because now you're trying to reorganize society

00:24:37.720 around a delusion. You're trying to dismantle arithmetic, which is a pretty useful thing.

00:24:44.980 You're trying to get rid of that and destroy it and reorganize society around this delusional claim

00:24:50.600 that you're making. Does it affect me? Yeah. Yes, it does. Obviously. It's the same thing here.

00:24:59.460 And it is directly analogous, really. Trying to deny the biological realities of men and women 0.57

00:25:08.420 is just as crazy as denying that two plus two equals four. And trying to reorganize society around the

00:25:17.040 delusional, superstitious claim that biological males with functioning male reproductive organs can be

00:25:24.820 and women is just as damaging to society as trying to dismantle basic arithmetic. 1.00

00:25:32.460 All right.

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00:26:41.260 Um, all right, a couple other stories to hit on before we, we read some emails and then call it a

00:26:47.720 year. As the Daily Wire reports, after Hallmark Channel pledged its allegiance to GLAAD, the Gay and

00:26:54.600 Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, in the wake of its decision to pull an ad that featured two lesbians

00:26:59.540 kissing, the site IndieWire has now called upon the channel to make its first LGBT movie. Jude Dry,

00:27:06.900 writing for IndieWire, says, if Hallmark really wants to make an impact and show the LGBTQ community

00:27:12.480 its commitment to inclusivity, it should greenlight an LGBTQ script ASAP. Jude Dry's call echoed that

00:27:20.780 of GLAAD President Sarah Kate Ellis, who said that LGBTQ people are, are and will continue to be a part

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00:27:33.020 Hallmark Channel would be like the company's greeting card wing, which already features a robust offering

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00:27:51.440 unproduced scripts. Better yet, solicit an up and coming LGBTQ writer to, to craft the script, hire an LGBTQ 0.99

00:27:57.640 director and cast the movie with LGBTQ actors. Um, and et cetera, and so forth. So what we see here,

00:28:06.520 once again, and this is, uh, related to, you know, what we talked about at the top of the show. So it's

00:28:11.920 all part of the same theme. What we see once again, is that all the stuff we heard from the left for

00:28:18.060 decades about, we're just trying to live our lives, leave us alone. We'll leave you alone, live and let

00:28:25.780 live. Right. That was all a big pile of BS. As many people, myself included have been warning for

00:28:33.540 years. It's BS. It's not true. That's not their intent. Never has been. You know, Hallmark isn't

00:28:41.420 hurting anyone by making their corny movies the way that they'd been making them. It doesn't hurt

00:28:45.380 anybody. Has anyone been actively hurt by the fact that there isn't a gay character in a Hallmark movie?

00:28:52.000 I mean, Hallmark is about the least threatening company in existence. You don't get more harmless

00:28:59.840 than Hallmark. Um, and the writer doesn't even seem to like Hallmark movies, calls them formulaic,

00:29:08.380 generic, which they are of course. So what he's saying is, eh, you know, these things are bland and

00:29:13.680 formulaic, not very good, but, uh, just, just put some gay actors and characters in there anyway,

00:29:18.500 because I say so, because it'd make me feel better. It would make me feel better to know

00:29:24.200 that you're following my ever, my every demand. Even if I don't watch the movie, I just want to know

00:29:30.300 that you're doing what I say. And that's, and that's what the LGBT lobby has been up to 0.88

00:29:38.140 for years now. And that again is why their claims of it doesn't affect you. It doesn't,

00:29:44.440 it does affect us. You want to affect us. You want to control what we say. You want to punish us

00:29:51.320 for saying things you don't like. You want to indoctrinate our kids into your belief system.

00:29:57.040 So I guess my point is at least be honest about it. Be honest about what you're doing.

00:30:06.200 Especially with the, the T on LGBT, that part of the lobby. I mean, this is the most aggressive,

00:30:15.380 hostile lobby in the country. If you defy them, they will try to rip you to shreds and treat you

00:30:25.000 like scum. Look at what they're doing to JK Rowling. Who's, who's, I, I, I read for you what,

00:30:31.580 that's all she said. That's it. She said, you know, let's not fire women for saying that sex is real. 1.00

00:30:38.620 And for that, you should see the things they're saying about this woman. And again, you know,

00:30:42.380 I know you might not be sympathetic because she's, she's a left and she brought left as she brought

00:30:46.540 this on herself. And I agree with that, but still the hostility, the vitriol,

00:30:52.940 the attitude is how dare you defy us even a little bit. How dare you think for yourself at all?

00:31:05.320 You know, here is your assigned point of view. And if you stray from that, even the slightest bit,

00:31:11.980 we will ruin you. And yet these people still want to claim that, oh, we're not trying to affect you.

00:31:18.240 We're just trying to, oh, please, please just be honest. That's all I'm asking.

00:31:26.340 All right. Uh, let's go to emails. Matt wall show at gmail.com. Matt wall show at gmail.com.

00:31:31.740 This is from Henry says, hi, Matt. I completely agree with you about expecting others to say Merry

00:31:35.860 Christmas instead of happy holidays. Getting triggered when a non-Christian doesn't say Merry 1.00

00:31:40.100 Christmas is like saying he is risen at Easter and getting upset when a non-Christian doesn't say 1.00

00:31:46.120 risen indeed. Yeah, Henry, I got a lot of emails on this topic and, um, several of them in disagreement

00:31:53.180 with us, but my feeling is always the whole thing, the whole controversy about happy holidays or Merry

00:32:00.780 Christmas, who cares? Who cares? Makes no difference. Let people say what they're comfortable with saying,

00:32:07.480 you know, trying to force people to say something. Um, and, and, and especially just when someone is

00:32:15.820 trying to be friendly and, and they, they have no ill intent to get offended by that, to complain about

00:32:23.660 it. If somebody says happy holidays, that's a friendly greeting. They're not trying to attack you.

00:32:30.660 It's not a, it's not an attack on Christmas. They're trying to be nice. So take it in that spirit

00:32:36.980 and move on with your life. And I think that's what most people do. I think on both sides, I think

00:32:42.080 there are very few actually people on either side who either get offended by Merry Christmas or get

00:32:46.880 offended by happy holidays, but there are some in there. And the problem is they're very loud.

00:32:50.100 All right. Um, this is from Colin says, Matt exclamation point. What are your top 10 movies of

00:32:58.880 2019? I don't think I've, I don't think I've seen 10 movies in 2019. I especially, I, I, I especially

00:33:04.420 have not seen 10 movies in 2019 that were released in 2019. So I can't really give a top 10 or even a

00:33:12.260 top five. I will tell you, I saw one movie I saw in 2019 that I really liked what was, uh, Ad Astra,

00:33:18.220 the, the Brad Pitt space movie. And I thought it was a gorgeous film. I thought it was thoughtful.

00:33:23.180 I thought it was interesting. Uh, I thought it was fundamentally about the bond between a father

00:33:30.820 and son, or rather, I suppose about the son's longing for that bond. Um, a long, a longing that

00:33:39.580 goes frustrated, frustrated ultimately, but it's really a beautiful and sad movie. And, um, and I liked it

00:33:46.140 a lot. I thought Ad Astra was basically what interstellar wanted to be, but wasn't.

00:33:55.560 Let's see. Uh, this is from Thanos says, hello, Matt. First time sending you an email. I'm a fan

00:34:02.140 from Thailand. You said it doesn't have to be star Wars. If you want to tell the story about space

00:34:07.540 and it doesn't have to be Spider-Man or Iron-Man. If you want to tell the story about someone with

00:34:11.680 supernatural powers, I don't think that was the only point why people want to see them.

00:34:16.440 It's not just about space or supernatural power stuff, but also about the characters growing that

00:34:21.680 we grow to love. And, uh, after we see them within those movies, we want to see what's going on with

00:34:29.040 the Skywalkers in their space. We want to know what is Spider-Man going, uh, doing with his powers.

00:34:33.000 We want to know what is going to happen in this new movie that they are in. I mean, sure,

00:34:36.860 it might be the same story again and again. We may like it or hate it, but that doesn't change the

00:34:40.960 fact that we love to see, uh, these characters in action. Kind of like how we enjoy listening to

00:34:46.060 your speech again and again, even though it's the same stuff. So is it really that bad for us to get

00:34:51.400 attached to those kinds of movies? I'll wait to hear your answer. Love your show. Matt, you do raise

00:34:56.360 a good point. Uh, me as someone who tends to repeat myself constantly, I guess I can't really blame

00:35:03.480 Star Wars for doing the same thing. But, um, I'm first of all, you know, as I have stated many times

00:35:10.780 there, I have one standard for myself and another, another standard for everybody else. I've been very

00:35:15.740 clear about that. So, you know, I can do what I want, but I expect other people to be better than

00:35:21.800 me. I don't see the big deal. Now I'm not saying it's bad to like Star Wars. In fact, I said, I totally

00:35:29.060 understand that people have a nostalgic attachment, um, to the movie. So, you know, that's, that's,

00:35:35.520 that's totally under, that's understandable to me. If you grew up with this movie, you, you, you,

00:35:40.780 you, you have that sort of relationship with the story and with the film. And, um, I don't begrudge

00:35:47.760 that at all. What I'm talking about is just the actual quality of the movie. I'm saying that the

00:35:53.460 Star Wars movies generally have below average acting. The scripts are below average. The stories

00:35:59.000 are repetitive and, um, and that's it. And so maybe it's time to move on, right? It's, it's not like

00:36:06.800 this is a story or the, that the original trilogy was of such a nature that it was just so incredible,

00:36:16.980 so deep, so rich that there is, that it's a never ending source of additional stories because

00:36:25.040 obviously it's not, you know, the well has run dry. And so let's move on and tell other stories in

00:36:33.300 space. What's wrong with, here's what I would like to see happen. You have filmmakers, this generation

00:36:41.680 of filmmakers, um, who grew up with Star Wars, love the movie, have it, have been influenced by it.

00:36:49.660 Great. So what I would love to see is, is for them to go and make a different space movie.

00:36:57.300 That's not a Star Wars movie, but that is influenced by it. So whatever happened to that,

00:37:02.480 see that, I think that's the way it's supposed to go. It's not, it's not supposed to be, oh,

00:37:06.920 I was influenced by Star Wars. So I'm going to make my own Star Wars. No, just you're influenced

00:37:11.020 by it. It's one of the influences you had as a filmmaker along with other, and go and, and so go

00:37:16.420 and tell a space movie that yeah, is, is reminiscent of Star Wars in some ways, but it's also a

00:37:20.640 completely different story. It's like, if you're a filmmaker coming up and you loved the Godfather

00:37:25.060 as a, uh, you know, when you were younger, you're very influenced by Francis Ford Coppola and the

00:37:30.000 Godfather. You're not going to go and try to make Godfather four, you know, you might tell, have a

00:37:35.540 mob movie that is reminiscent in some ways of the Godfather, but it's, it's still its own thing.

00:37:40.940 Um, so that, that's what I'm saying. You had, uh, who is the guy, the director that made the last

00:37:47.380 start? Rian Johnson. Um, I, he did, I think it was, I don't know. I think it was the last,

00:37:54.160 not this latest entry, but the one before that. Well, he's, this is the same guy who did, uh,

00:37:59.300 Looper, which I thought was a very interesting and good movie. Uh, he did a movie called Brick.

00:38:04.360 I think it was his first movie, uh, came out years ago, low budget, kind of indie movie with

00:38:11.000 Joseph Gordon-Levitt. Also a really interesting movie. Um, I would have loved to see that filmmaker

00:38:18.180 who I think is a very good filmmaker. I would have loved to see him tell a sci-fi space movie,

00:38:26.520 not a star Wars one, not one that has to fit into that cookie cutter mold, but I would love to see a

00:38:33.220 guy with those talents and that perspective influenced by star Wars and other films tell

00:38:39.240 his own space movie. That would have been great. Instead he told a star Wars movie and you know,

00:38:45.200 he made a star Wars movie. He told a star Wars story and it was, you know, it was kind of a bland

00:38:50.340 middling. Uh, let's see. All right, moving on. This is from Jacob says, Hey Matt, I listened to your

00:38:57.860 show daily came for Ben. My subscription isn't up yet, so I can't say stayed for Matt, but it makes you,

00:39:02.520 if it makes you feel better. Sure. It does make me feel better. I'm a 24 year old Orthodox Jew.

00:39:08.080 As such, I take off 10% after tax income for charity. A guy, my age, I haven't seen in years

00:39:12.880 messaged me asking how I was. Obviously he wanted something. So I asked what's up. He tell me his

00:39:18.840 dad has had two strokes and he had to move in with him. Blah, blah. Can I help? I like how you just

00:39:24.720 blah, blah over dad had two strokes. I felt bad and figured even if it was bull, the guy obviously

00:39:30.540 needs help. So I sent him, sent him 150 bucks. He was over the moon. Thank me a thousand times.

00:39:36.520 Okay. Good night. Next day. He tells me that he thinks the reason his life is going so bad

00:39:40.880 is because he isn't religious. Can I give him money to get food for Shabbat? I thought about it. 0.95

00:39:46.160 Uh, I want him to keep Shabbat, but I don't know. I don't want to now be his wallet. I'm in turn. I'm

00:39:52.240 interning with barely an income myself. So I sent him another 70. Do you think the second installment

00:39:57.780 was immoral also creating an issue for myself? Okay. Yes to the second question. No to the first.

00:40:05.160 It wasn't immoral. You're obviously a very nice charitable guy. So you didn't do anything morally

00:40:09.600 wrong. Did you create an issue for yourself? Yes. Because, uh, this person that you're dealing

00:40:15.300 with is what is known as a leech. And so I would cut him off immediately. I mean, the very idea that

00:40:22.040 you're going to ask somebody for money who you haven't talked to in years and you reach

00:40:26.980 out to them and almost immediately asking them for money. Okay. Well, I think this was

00:40:31.640 your thought. It's like, well, that's definitely tacky, but maybe he's in dire straits. He needs

00:40:37.520 to reach out to somebody. Doesn't know anybody else. He's reaching out to me. So I'll help

00:40:40.900 him out. I think I was, I think I was very generous of you. He comes back the next day and

00:40:45.460 is asking for more money. And the setup for it is that he wants to be religious and he needs money

00:40:51.040 to do it. What is this guy? Televangelist? Uh, no, I would, I wouldn't give him another

00:40:58.420 freaking dime. Okay. Um, so I think you've, you've done your part. This is from Michael says,

00:41:05.720 last year, you mentioned that it's a wonderful life was one of your favorite Christmas movies.

00:41:09.100 The film was considered communist propaganda by many people when it was first released in 1947.

00:41:13.720 I have had a very long argument with my liberal parents over the holidays about how the movie

00:41:18.740 was full of socialist tropes. My argument, by the way, it sounds like my, it sounds like my family

00:41:24.200 at the holidays. Not that anyone's liberal because we're all crazy right wingers, but having a long

00:41:28.380 intense argument about something like whether it's a wonderful life is a communist movie. I think

00:41:33.560 that's great. You know, I think I probably enjoy hanging out with your family because, uh, there are

00:41:38.180 the families that can have arguments like that. They get very intense and go on for hours. And then

00:41:43.340 they're the families that can't. And I'm definitely in the can category. Um, my argument was that George

00:41:49.000 Bailey was essentially giving out subprime loans during the depression to people who could not

00:41:53.580 afford them while disregarding his fiduciary responsibility to maximize profit to Potter,

00:41:57.960 who is the stockholder. Potter is then portrayed as an evil, greedy capitalist throughout the film

00:42:02.580 for being solvent during the depression and supplying free market housing for a competitive price.

00:42:07.360 I would like to hear you analyze this with your sound reasoning since socialist ideology

00:42:11.300 is now so prevalent in this day and age and old rich white men are castigated in the worst possible

00:42:15.900 light. I ask this question every year to the daily wire team and have yet to receive an answer. So I

00:42:20.000 hope that you can fit it in your final email segment before the year's over while the topic is still

00:42:24.220 relevant. Well, Michael, I don't disagree with what you're saying, but listen, you could make the

00:42:32.640 argument that Santa Claus himself is a manipulative nanny state tyrant. He watches you, watches you even

00:42:42.140 while you're sleeping. Think about how creepy that is. Think about the lyrics of that song.

00:42:48.260 He knows when you're sleeping. He knows when you're awake. My God. He knows if you've been bad or good.

00:42:55.340 Then he breaks into your home. He rewards you if you comply with his demands. And if not,

00:43:00.340 he leaves a terrifying threat in the form of a chunk of coal, a black coal. Now, if you want to

00:43:07.540 be all literal about it, you could say that Santa is a morbidly obese big brother figure who violates

00:43:14.460 our privacy rights, violates our property rights, and violates our free speech rights. And that would

00:43:21.960 all be true. But it's Christmas, so we make an exception. All I'm saying is Santa gets off the hook

00:43:28.760 in the spirit of Christmas. And it's in that same spirit that I let George Bailey

00:43:32.960 off the hook, even though he is a deadbeat, self-pitying whiner. But yeah, so I really don't

00:43:42.560 have a response for you, I'm afraid. I understand what you're saying. You're not wrong.

00:43:48.100 Uh, but, but still, that's what, that's the answer I'm going to give you. I'm going to give

00:43:54.360 you a yeah, but still on that one. This is from LJ says, Hey Matt, can you give us a great recipe

00:44:00.740 for bourbon eggnog? Um, I sure can LJ. What you do is, uh, well, I tell you the step-by-step process.

00:44:08.200 What you want to do is, um, take some bourbon out of your liquor cabinet. You want to pour a generous

00:44:14.560 portion of it into a glass. And the next step is drink the bourbon. The end. Because obviously the

00:44:25.060 last thing you should ever do with the glorious elixir known as bourbon is mix it with raw eggs

00:44:31.600 for God's sake. That's my bourbon recipe. Hope you enjoy it. Um, I know I'll be enjoying that form

00:44:39.700 with eggnog myself over the holidays and, uh, hope all of you have a great blessed Christmas.

00:44:46.000 Happy new year. I'll talk to you next year. Godspeed. Merry Christmas.

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The Matt Walsh Show - December 20, 2019

Ep. 395 - Leftism Is A Religious Cult

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