The Matt Walsh Show - January 03, 2020


Ep. 397 - Democrats Side With Iran


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00:00:00.000 The big news today, of course, the U.S. takes out Iran's head terrorist, Qasem Soleimani.
00:00:05.820 Now, I certainly don't purport to be an authority or expert in the realm of foreign policy,
00:00:12.060 but I don't think you need to be an expert to come to some very basic conclusions about
00:00:15.780 things.
00:00:16.200 And I base those conclusions on the facts that are generally agreed upon by all reasonable
00:00:21.500 people, it seems.
00:00:23.060 And those facts are Soleimani was an evil, murderous man.
00:00:28.080 He was responsible for the deaths of hundreds of U.S. military members and civilians as
00:00:36.000 well.
00:00:36.540 He had planned attacks on American soil in the past, including one in D.C. that was foiled,
00:00:42.440 fortunately, before it happened.
00:00:43.920 He was behind recent attacks against Americans in Iraq, including the attack on our embassy
00:00:48.240 a few days ago.
00:00:50.180 He was an ongoing threat to American lives and the lives of many others, many people of other
00:00:56.140 nationalities, including Iranians, by the way.
00:00:58.960 Now, none of that is disputed from what I've seen.
00:01:02.300 The Pentagon says that Soleimani was also planning an imminent attack of some kind against Americans.
00:01:07.440 Now, you could say that you don't believe that and you don't trust the Pentagon, but you don't
00:01:14.020 need to believe it.
00:01:15.460 We don't even need that.
00:01:16.900 You don't need to take the Pentagon's word for it when it comes to the other points that
00:01:20.800 I just listed.
00:01:21.580 And I think that tells us everything we need to know in terms of was this attack morally
00:01:28.940 justified?
00:01:30.360 The thing that finally prompted the U.S. to respond were the recent attacks, especially
00:01:35.560 at the embassy.
00:01:36.140 We knew where Soleimani was.
00:01:38.900 We had his location.
00:01:40.260 Trump ordered the attack, took him out.
00:01:42.800 Based on all of that, I say it's morally justified.
00:01:45.980 Now, it doesn't make strategic sense.
00:01:47.820 From my non-expert perspective, it seems to make a lot of strategic sense.
00:01:53.100 All of these people, liberals and Democrats mostly, and we'll talk about them more in
00:01:58.940 a minute, but these people worrying about escalation or that this might constitute an act of war and
00:02:05.320 so on, well, an attack on our embassy is an escalation.
00:02:10.060 It is an act of war.
00:02:11.580 The only question is whether we will show a willingness to respond swiftly and harshly to
00:02:17.260 that sort of provocation or not.
00:02:19.340 That's the question.
00:02:21.020 An unwillingness to respond.
00:02:23.100 You know, policy of appeasement, it seems to me, like the policy that Obama had initiated,
00:02:28.680 which included sending pallets of cash to Iran.
00:02:32.160 That kind of policy obviously does not de-escalate or prevent future attacks, and we could clearly
00:02:37.900 see that, because if it did, then we wouldn't be having this conversation right now.
00:02:42.020 Obama appeased for eight years.
00:02:43.520 Did Iran de-escalate?
00:02:45.060 Did they back off?
00:02:46.980 Did they play nice?
00:02:48.300 Did it result in peace and harmony in the Middle East?
00:02:51.360 No, obviously not.
00:02:53.100 If you don't show a willingness to protect yourself, to defend yourself, to respond in
00:02:58.060 kind, if you don't show that kind of willingness, then you embolden your enemies and you send
00:03:03.220 the message that they can do whatever they want.
00:03:05.260 And obviously that's not the message we want to send.
00:03:09.120 Look, I'm not in favor of regime change wars.
00:03:12.220 I don't want to be the world police.
00:03:16.480 I've basically been a non-interventionist.
00:03:20.300 But taking out a monstrous scumbag who's been killing Americans for decades and staged an
00:03:25.380 attack on our embassy only a few days ago is neither of those things.
00:03:29.680 That's not being world police, and that's not a regime change war.
00:03:32.300 However, it's appropriate, it's just, it's necessary, I would argue.
00:03:36.880 It's obviously reckless, you know, to be someone who is itching for war all the time,
00:03:44.180 always wanting to intervene, always wanting to send troops over everywhere and start wars
00:03:48.940 everywhere.
00:03:49.540 And there are people like that.
00:03:50.760 I think there are fewer people like that today than there were, say, 20 years ago.
00:03:53.820 But there are people out there like that, you know, the so-called neocons and so forth.
00:04:00.420 But the other extreme end is this anti-war absolutism that you also find out there.
00:04:08.900 In fact, the very notion of being anti-war is really a silly and unserious position.
00:04:16.640 Because there are times when military action is necessary.
00:04:20.060 Saying, I'm anti-war.
00:04:23.000 Well, in a sense, almost everybody is because nobody likes, or very few people anyway, like
00:04:27.780 war.
00:04:29.320 But there are obviously times when you have to respond that way.
00:04:34.980 Killing a guy like Soleimani, especially after he was behind the attack on our embassy,
00:04:41.200 seems like a necessary response.
00:04:44.280 Now, here's a question for us to consider.
00:04:46.240 After Trump deployed hundreds of troops to protect the embassy in Baghdad, and then killed
00:04:56.120 the guy who coordinated the attack.
00:04:58.700 So you've got the attack on our embassy.
00:05:01.180 Trump sends hundreds of more troops over there to protect the embassy.
00:05:05.420 And then he goes and kills the guy who coordinated.
00:05:07.820 Now, basically coming down like a ton of bricks on everybody associated with it.
00:05:11.940 After that happens, do you think our embassies are more or less likely to be attacked in
00:05:20.560 the future?
00:05:22.160 Obviously, there's nothing we can do to make sure that they're never attacked again anywhere.
00:05:26.420 But is it more or less likely to happen now because of that?
00:05:31.680 Do you think future would-be attackers are more or less emboldened by this now that they
00:05:37.760 see what will happen to them?
00:05:39.340 That's the question.
00:05:41.720 And there would appear to be an obvious answer to it.
00:05:44.960 If somebody tries to break into your house, and by the way, an embassy that is, you know,
00:05:50.720 U.S. embassy, that's American soil.
00:05:53.300 That's the way embassies work.
00:05:55.280 If someone tries to break into your house and you greet them with a shotgun, is that going
00:06:01.300 to encourage more burglars in the future?
00:06:03.160 Are you going to worry that by doing this, more burglars are going to want to show up?
00:06:08.620 Maybe for the challenge, they just like a good challenge?
00:06:12.480 No, they're not there for the challenge.
00:06:14.180 They have other objectives.
00:06:15.080 They want to steal your TV.
00:06:16.200 They want whatever they want to do.
00:06:18.100 People who attack us, attack our people, our embassies, they're not doing it for the
00:06:22.760 challenge.
00:06:24.040 They're doing it for other reasons.
00:06:25.400 They have other objectives.
00:06:26.340 And now they know that that calculation carries a significant amount of risk for them.
00:06:35.900 And it's good that they know that.
00:06:37.360 Now they know that if you do that, we're going to send, we're going to show up in force
00:06:45.140 to respond.
00:06:47.540 And then if you helped coordinate this thing, we're going to send a drone out to find you.
00:06:51.160 And we're going to, you know, turn you into a pot of beef stew, basically.
00:06:59.380 I would think that it's good for would-be attackers or would-be coordinators of attacks
00:07:05.700 to know that.
00:07:09.620 Now, the next question, of course, is what will Iran do in response?
00:07:13.400 What happens next?
00:07:14.200 And the first answer to that, obviously, is nobody knows exactly because nobody can look
00:07:17.400 into the future.
00:07:17.860 The second answer is we have to be very selective about whose guesses and predictions we trust.
00:07:25.640 Notice something.
00:07:26.780 And I'm not saying to trust my guess or prediction.
00:07:29.260 You shouldn't trust that.
00:07:32.960 But I have noticed that none of the serious, sober-minded, knowledgeable voices that I've seen
00:07:39.340 are screaming about World War III or saying that World War III is going to happen.
00:07:44.760 Now, a lot of people are screaming about World War III and saying World War III is going
00:07:48.860 to happen, but none of them are sober and knowledgeable.
00:07:52.940 And that's probably because Iran is not some enormous superpower.
00:07:57.780 They're basically a third-rate power.
00:08:00.100 And they would get annihilated in a direct all-out war with the United States, which doesn't
00:08:05.340 mean that they issue no response at all.
00:08:07.040 Obviously, they could respond on a smaller scale.
00:08:09.160 They could respond through proxies.
00:08:11.160 They could attack our interests and our people directly.
00:08:15.160 And exactly how all of that will shake out, I don't know.
00:08:18.360 But I do know that all of the things they could do in response, they've already done and are
00:08:26.540 already doing and would have continued to do if they were unopposed.
00:08:31.440 We just have to continue to be swift, decisive, and smart in response to whatever they do in the
00:08:37.980 future.
00:08:38.460 That's basically my take on this.
00:08:41.460 But Democrats have a different take, unsurprisingly.
00:08:45.940 And their take is that, well, their take is basically that protecting our embassies and
00:08:50.960 killing terrorists who kill Americans is bad if Trump does it.
00:08:55.180 Not a surprising take.
00:08:56.940 That's their take on everything.
00:08:59.180 Did Trump do it?
00:09:00.020 It's bad.
00:09:01.520 Very, very, very simple calculation they have to make.
00:09:05.360 Almost there's an enviable simplicity to it.
00:09:09.300 It would be nice to live in a world like that where you don't have to think too much about
00:09:12.500 things.
00:09:13.280 All you have to say is, did Trump do it?
00:09:14.900 Does Trump support it?
00:09:15.740 Well, I'm against it.
00:09:18.240 Now, they haven't put it quite like that most of the time, but that's the gist.
00:09:21.120 And we'll run down some of the lowlights of the Democratic response to this in a minute.
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00:11:33.860 Well, they haven't all been quite this bad, because this is about as bad as it gets, but
00:11:40.120 Rose McGowan, she's the former Hollywood actress.
00:11:44.540 I don't know what she does for a living now, but she sent out a tweet last night saying,
00:11:48.100 Dear Iran, the USA has disrespected your country, your flag, your people.
00:11:54.540 52% of us humbly apologize.
00:11:57.560 We want peace with your nation.
00:11:59.280 We are being held hostage by a terrorist regime.
00:12:02.260 We do not know how to escape.
00:12:03.660 Please do not kill us.
00:12:05.680 Hashtag Soleimani.
00:12:08.840 I mean, what do you even say to that?
00:12:10.560 Cowering to a terrorist regime, begging for mercy, apologizing.
00:12:14.480 Democrats might elect her president if she keeps this up.
00:12:18.100 Although there is one point here, aside from the question of where did she get the 52% figure
00:12:24.440 from, 52% of us apologize.
00:12:27.640 Did she poll everybody before she sent this tweet out?
00:12:30.940 But I think the bigger point here is, you know, Rose, maybe I can help you out.
00:12:36.580 She says that she doesn't know how to escape.
00:12:39.320 Well, it's pretty easy, Rose.
00:12:41.120 You have a passport, right?
00:12:42.500 Okay, so I assume you have a passport.
00:12:44.120 Well, go to the airport, get on a plane, and that's it.
00:12:52.220 The plane will do most of the rest of the work, and you can go anywhere you want.
00:12:56.500 You can leave the country.
00:12:59.720 And I'm not one to always resort to the, if you don't like America, get out thing.
00:13:05.420 But if this is your position, that there's a terrorist regime in power, you're being held
00:13:11.940 against your will, you know, then you just, if I felt that way, I would leave.
00:13:21.260 So you are free to do that.
00:13:24.080 In fact, you could go to Iran if you want.
00:13:25.960 Deliver your love letter in person.
00:13:27.320 See if you like how you're treated over there.
00:13:32.120 Meanwhile, a reporter for the New York Times, and I'm not making this up.
00:13:36.240 A reporter for the New York Times, hours after the strike, posted, well, I'll just show it
00:13:42.300 to you, posted this video.
00:13:44.180 Watch.
00:13:44.400 Here's the caption that went with that video, a rare personal video of General Soleimani reciting
00:14:05.840 poetry shared by a source in Iran about friends departing and him being left behind.
00:14:12.340 Totally normal, right?
00:14:14.400 You're posting this sympathetic video of the terrorist reciting poetry.
00:14:20.800 This is like right after bin Laden was killed.
00:14:23.400 Here's a silly video of Osama singing, take on me at Taliban karaoke night.
00:14:30.140 Meanwhile, a CNN reporter, Sam Vinograd, tweeted, Soleimani was a terrorist who was responsible
00:14:35.900 for horrific actions.
00:14:38.280 Iran will consider this an act of war.
00:14:41.160 President Trump doesn't rely on intelligence for anything.
00:14:43.280 So it is unlikely that he fully understands the repercussions of this action.
00:14:48.280 Iran will consider this an act of war.
00:14:50.200 They attacked our embassy.
00:14:53.280 That was an act of war.
00:14:54.980 The act of war already happened.
00:14:58.540 What kind of gutless nonsense is this?
00:15:00.980 A country makes an act of war against the United States, and you say we shouldn't respond to
00:15:07.260 the act of war because it would be an act of war?
00:15:11.860 Oh, no, we can't respond to an act of war with an act of war because that might cause them
00:15:16.040 to do an act of war.
00:15:17.840 I mean, another act of war on top of all the other acts of war they've already done.
00:15:21.500 But, you know, we can't.
00:15:23.280 And it gets worse.
00:15:24.420 The Daily Wire has an article up right now compiling the Democratic reaction to the Soleimani
00:15:31.940 strike.
00:15:32.360 Let me read some of this on the Daily Wire dot com says socialist Democrat presidential
00:15:36.660 candidate Bernie Sanders responded by tweeting Trump's dangerous escalation brings us closer
00:15:41.640 to another disastrous war in the Middle East that would cost millions of cost countless
00:15:46.580 lives and trillions more dollars.
00:15:48.360 Trump promised to end the endless wars.
00:15:50.060 But this action puts us on the path to another one.
00:15:53.520 Democrat presidential candidate Elizabeth Warren responded by writing on Twitter.
00:15:56.940 Soleimani was a murderer responsible for thousands of deaths, including hundreds of Americans.
00:16:00.420 But this reckless move escalates the situation with Iran and increases the likelihood of
00:16:04.440 more deaths and new Middle East conflict.
00:16:06.900 Our priority must be to avoid another costly war.
00:16:10.740 Let's just before I continue, let's review what they're calling a reckless, you know, thoughtless
00:16:16.900 move.
00:16:18.200 It was killing the guy who Elizabeth Warren herself describes as a mass murderer who was in Iraq
00:16:26.860 after having just helped coordinate an attack on an American embassy.
00:16:31.840 Killing that guy was reckless.
00:16:35.420 OK, Democrat presidential candidate Marianne Williamson responded by writing prayers for
00:16:41.460 peace.
00:16:42.080 Killing of Qasem Soleimani was by U.S.
00:16:44.940 military was one of the most reckless, irresponsible direct actions ever directed by a U.S.
00:16:50.540 president.
00:16:51.480 Congress deserves condemnation for allowing it.
00:16:53.840 And Americans need to understand this war with Iran would be totally disastrous.
00:16:59.620 Well, Marianne, maybe you could grab your peace crystal and get to work.
00:17:05.480 I mean, really, I blame you.
00:17:07.160 You're the one that's supposed to be harnessing all of the goodwill and all of the positive
00:17:11.720 energy in the universe through your crystals.
00:17:15.180 Where have your crystals been?
00:17:17.660 What did you leave them up in the attic?
00:17:19.440 Get the crystals out.
00:17:20.600 Get to work.
00:17:21.180 The whole world's going to come to an end because of you, Marianne.
00:17:26.960 Far left political commentator Crystal Ball tweeted, speaking of crystals, no one voted
00:17:33.540 for this.
00:17:34.080 No one authorized it.
00:17:35.100 And yet here we are in the precipice of war with Iran.
00:17:37.380 If we assassinated Soleimani, it's hard to overstate just what a massive escalation and
00:17:41.460 dangerous situation this president just put us in.
00:17:44.380 Democrat presidential candidate Andrew Yang responded.
00:17:47.440 War with Iran is the last thing we need and is not the will of the American people.
00:17:51.660 We should be acting to de-escalate tensions and protect our people in the region.
00:17:55.240 Far left Young Turks writer Emma Weiglin tweeted, imagine the Iranian government assassinating
00:18:01.340 Mike Pompeo with a drone at the direction of the president and called it self-defense.
00:18:05.900 That's exactly what the U.S. did by killing Soleimani.
00:18:08.160 An act of war.
00:18:12.080 Democrat Senator Chris Murphy said just a few days ago that Trump has rendered America impotent
00:18:16.920 in the Middle East.
00:18:17.880 No one fears us.
00:18:18.760 No one listens to us.
00:18:20.620 But then Murphy responded to news that Trump killed Soleimani by writing, Soleimani was an
00:18:25.380 enemy of the United States.
00:18:26.240 That's not a question.
00:18:27.540 The question is this.
00:18:28.460 As reports suggest, did America just assassinate, without any congressional authorization, the
00:18:33.280 second most powerful person in Iran, knowingly setting off a potential massive regional
00:18:37.440 war, and on and on and on.
00:18:41.320 So you get the gist of it.
00:18:43.220 You've got the media.
00:18:44.080 You've got Democrat presidential candidates.
00:18:45.560 They're all opposed to it.
00:18:48.240 They all are worried about war with Iran.
00:18:51.720 Look, okay, a few things here.
00:18:55.720 First of all, calling this an assassination is just straight up Iranian propaganda.
00:19:03.000 You may as well be working for the Iranian government.
00:19:05.320 Soleimani was a terrorist operating illegally.
00:19:09.600 He was an aggressor against the United States.
00:19:12.520 He was killed in a war zone.
00:19:15.500 This was not an assassination.
00:19:17.100 Assassination is what they will call it.
00:19:20.440 Comparing it to killing a U.S. official like Mike Pompeo, that is, again, Iranian propaganda.
00:19:29.120 That's how they're going to phrase it.
00:19:31.540 That's how they're going to put it and frame it.
00:19:33.780 Second, you know, there are many reasonable things that you could say or, you know, a reasonable
00:19:46.320 person could speculate or worry about where this is going to head, what's going to happen
00:19:53.420 next, I think we would be fools if we weren't, you know, somewhat worried because we're, you know, we, we, it's, it's, it is a, it's a contentious situation to put it mildly.
00:20:07.920 So, so there's nothing wrong with that.
00:20:10.900 And I've seen plenty of reasonable people who've said, listen, I think this was a right, the right thing to do.
00:20:15.780 I think it was necessary, but, um, this could go any number of directions.
00:20:19.840 And so, so, so, so, you know, here, here are some directions it could go that wouldn't be so good.
00:20:25.000 That, that's fine.
00:20:26.800 But to act as though Iran is some massive superpower and we've just poked the bear and now they're going to rise up and destroy us,
00:20:38.200 which is the way some of the Democrats are, are, are, um, essentially positioning this is absurd.
00:20:46.240 I mean, it's un-American, it's ridiculous, it's sensationalist, it's fear-mongering.
00:20:52.820 Third thing, is there any doubt that every Democrat in the country would be tripping over themselves to extol the brilliance of this move if Obama had done it?
00:21:03.480 Is there any doubt?
00:21:04.640 Now, there are, on the, on the fringes of the left, there is a, there are some people, a few people, who are consistent on these things.
00:21:16.420 And, in fact, did hold Obama accountable during his, um, administration for doing things like assassinating American citizens via drone strike,
00:21:26.480 which is something that Obama did do.
00:21:29.820 But those voices are few and far between.
00:21:32.380 For the most part, when Obama was in office, whatever he did, drone strikes, whatever, um, Democrats were totally behind it.
00:21:44.960 So, is there any doubt at all?
00:21:47.560 If this was, if this was Obama who did that, is there any doubt that most of these Democrats would be saying that it was a brilliant move, it was morally right, it was strategically wise, on and on and on and on, so on and so forth?
00:22:02.440 No, we have no doubt about that.
00:22:05.260 Because these people have no integrity whatsoever.
00:22:09.160 You could claim that the same is true on the other end, and if Obama had done this, most Republicans would be criticizing it.
00:22:15.460 But that's actually not true.
00:22:18.320 And I'm not saying that Republicans are above being tribalistic.
00:22:21.560 They obviously aren't.
00:22:22.620 But on, on issues like this, Democrats are far more tribalistic.
00:22:27.800 When it comes to, in my view, when it comes to foreign policy especially, Democrats are far more tribalistic and are far more, um, uh, uh, likely to completely change their foreign policy principles, depending on if it's a guy with a D or an R next to his name in the White House.
00:22:48.160 I think that, you know, 99% of the Republicans who are celebrating this, or at least supporting it now, would be doing the same if it was Obama in office.
00:23:00.940 But that's how, uh, Democrats operate.
00:23:03.180 All right, let's move on to some other big news that I don't, I don't want to be, I don't want to get completely overshadowed.
00:23:11.160 Uh, reading again from the Daily Wire, it says, Congressional Republicans have now taken aim at the infamous decision Roe v. Wade by urging the Supreme Court to revisit the nearly 50-year-old case that enshrined abortion as a constitutional right across all 50 states.
00:23:25.380 Thirty-nine Republican senators and 168 members of the House of Representatives, almost all of them Republicans, signed a so-called friend-of-the-court brief, um, filed on Thursday by the National Anti-Abortion Group Americans United for Life in connection with the challenge to a Louisiana abortion access law due to be heard in March.
00:23:43.140 The Louisiana case before the court does not directly target Roe, the report continued.
00:23:48.420 The law at issue requires a doctor to have admitting privileges at a hospital within 30 miles of the facility where the abortion is performed, which critics say is not medically justified.
00:23:57.040 Um, according to the brief, Roe's jurisprudence has been haphazard from the beginning due to becoming a radically unsettled precedent that, quote, has been substantially undermined by subsequent authority, arguing that previous court rulings, quote, clearly did not settle the abortion issue.
00:24:12.080 The brief urges SCOTUS to reconsider those precedents.
00:24:15.880 Um, and then it goes on from there.
00:24:17.640 It's interesting to report on the Daily Wire.
00:24:19.500 You can go and read, um, and of course it raises the question, are we going to get any kind of direct confrontation with or challenge to Roe v. Wade with the way the court is currently, um, constituted?
00:24:38.300 I wouldn't at all be confident that Roe v. Wade would get overturned.
00:24:43.840 And that's part of the irony, actually, about the way the, just how fervent the left was, obviously, in trying to stop somebody like Kavanaugh from getting on the court and saying that Kavanaugh is going to attack abortion and Roe v. Wade and all this.
00:25:00.240 I don't think Kavanaugh would vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.
00:25:05.200 I could be wrong.
00:25:05.880 I really don't think he would.
00:25:07.700 But when it comes to Roe v. Wade, you know, if, if you have, if you have any integrity, again, and it doesn't even matter how you feel about abortion personally, even if you're in favor of abortion.
00:25:23.400 If you're in favor of abortion, but you have integrity, and maybe there's a paradox there, maybe there's a, just, that's impossible.
00:25:31.120 How could a person with integrity be in favor of abortion?
00:25:34.540 Probably they can't, and I think that's the problem.
00:25:37.420 But if there was anyone in that category that exists, then they would have to admit that Roe v. Wade, putting abortion to the side, how you personally feel about it, Roe v. Wade is a disastrous legal opinion.
00:25:50.480 On just a, on a, on a, on a legal level, it's a, it was a disastrous decision by the Supreme Court because what they did was they located a fictional right to abortion in the right to privacy provision, which also doesn't exist.
00:26:10.660 And if it did exist, it would have nothing to do with abortion.
00:26:17.340 So based on a right to privacy, which has nothing to do with abortion and also doesn't exist in the constitution, they found, they located a right to abortion.
00:26:27.920 And it just, that, of course, makes no sense on a legal level.
00:26:36.220 And on, on, on, on that basis alone, Roe v. Wade should be, should be overturned.
00:26:41.360 Um, let's move on to, to emails, mattwalshowatgmail.com, mattwalshowatgmail.com.
00:26:46.960 Um, there was one here that was interesting that I wanted to spend some time on.
00:26:51.960 Okay, this is from Brandon, says, Matt, I was confused by some of your tweets last night talking about the Iran situation.
00:26:57.420 Someone said that the U.S. response isn't biblical, and you seem to suggest that Jesus' words in the Bible don't apply to governments, but only to individuals.
00:27:06.860 Are you saying the government can do whatever it wants morally, according to the Bible?
00:27:10.580 Well, Brandon, of course, I'm not saying that.
00:27:13.500 Just backing up for a moment here.
00:27:15.240 A few people challenged me last night, basically taking the position that Jesus was anti-war, and the Bible is anti-war, and, uh, you know, all, all, all the stuff about don't take vengeance, turn the other cheek, and so on, should disqualify us from doing things like killing terrorists.
00:27:32.240 And we, we, we've, we've all heard this before.
00:27:34.580 Before, we've, we've, we've all encountered this version of Jesus as this peacenik anti-war hippie, right?
00:27:42.480 Somebody quoted Paul in Romans saying that, uh, you know, the, the, uh, the verse in Romans talking about beloved, don't take vengeance, leave it to God.
00:27:51.720 I'm paraphrasing.
00:27:52.840 Now, here's my point.
00:27:54.900 And Romans is actually a great example.
00:27:58.720 So, it's good that the person quoted it, even though the person who quoted it, obviously, had never read the entire letter.
00:28:05.820 Because if you read the entire letter of Romans, you would see that in the very same letter, Paul, in his only explicit mention of the state in that letter, specifically affirms the state's authority to wield the sword and take lives.
00:28:19.380 So, you know, at one point, he's saying, beloved, don't take vengeance.
00:28:26.740 Yet, at another point, he says that the state can wield the sword and, and take lives in the name of justice.
00:28:35.260 How do we make sense of that?
00:28:37.220 Well, because it's simply the case that many of the moral edicts and commands given in the Bible are given to individuals, not to governments as a whole.
00:28:48.820 That doesn't mean that governments can do whatever they want.
00:28:53.560 Intrinsically immoral acts are intrinsically immoral, no matter who does them.
00:28:58.940 So, rape is intrinsically immoral.
00:29:03.380 Which means that individual people can't do it, and the government can't, you know, come up with some policy where they, you know, subject prisoners of war to rape or, or, or whatever.
00:29:19.400 Slavery is intrinsically immoral.
00:29:22.680 Lots of things are intrinsically immoral.
00:29:24.760 Killing is not intrinsically immoral.
00:29:27.660 Killing is a matter of authority.
00:29:29.280 So, what the Bible tells us is that we, as individuals, do not have the authority to go out and kill in the name of justice.
00:29:37.840 We can kill in self-defense, obviously, and, or in defense of those we love.
00:29:43.040 But we are not empowered to go out and be vigilantes, to be like superheroes.
00:29:47.980 We can't go out on the street looking for bad guys to bring to justice.
00:29:52.300 We are not empowered to do that.
00:29:55.180 The government is empowered to do that.
00:29:57.800 Does it abuse that power?
00:30:00.640 Well, of course it does.
00:30:01.960 But the Bible does grant that power to the state, not just in Romans, but throughout the text, Old and New Testament.
00:30:09.200 And so, that's my point.
00:30:13.480 And that's why you can't just haphazardly take a verse here and a verse there and apply it to foreign policy.
00:30:26.360 Which, again, doesn't mean that our foreign policy is totally exempt from everything that's in the Bible.
00:30:35.920 But it does mean that you can't do it that way.
00:30:40.980 And when Jesus says, turn the other cheek, you know, he's talking to you individually as a person and me.
00:30:49.000 And he's saying that if you are insulted personally, then the correct response is to turn the other cheek.
00:30:56.360 You cannot take that and extrapolate it and pretend that Jesus was giving advice on foreign policy and on how entire nations are supposed to respond to things like terrorism.
00:31:14.000 Now you're taking turn the other cheek, which is a very simple but important command, and you're expanding it into oblivion.
00:31:23.160 And you're turning it into something incoherent.
00:31:28.200 Now, we're going to pretend that Jesus is saying that if a nation is attacked by another nation, the nation shouldn't defend itself?
00:31:36.640 No, the government has a responsibility to defend its citizens.
00:31:40.160 And if we're attacked or if we're under threat, the government has a responsibility to respond.
00:31:46.700 No, we don't want the government to turn the other cheek to aggressors and terrorists and, you know, enemy powers.
00:31:57.340 So you've just got to be, you know, we've, we've, we've, we say again and again, you've got to look at the context in the Bible.
00:32:09.340 Um, you can't take anything just in isolation and pluck a sentence out of its context.
00:32:17.060 You can't do that, do that.
00:32:18.300 You have to look at the context and you have to, this is very important.
00:32:22.100 Look at who these comments or commands are being directed at.
00:32:29.240 Let's see.
00:32:33.740 This is from Antonio says, hi, Matt.
00:32:35.880 I'm sorry.
00:32:36.320 The Pope is ignoring you.
00:32:37.280 If you followed your podcast, he would surely be a better Pope.
00:32:39.540 Well, that's, I'd have to agree with you there.
00:32:42.660 I'm only writing to advise you to watch the best movie in recent years.
00:32:46.360 The peanut butter Falcon.
00:32:47.740 I'd like to hear your comment on this movie.
00:32:49.320 Good start of the decade with devotion.
00:32:52.260 Antonio.
00:32:52.980 Uh, yeah, I actually did watch the peanut butter Falcon.
00:32:54.880 That's the Shia LaBeouf, LaBeouf, uh, uh, movie.
00:32:58.240 I watched it with my wife a few, a few weeks ago and I thought it was, uh, you know, it
00:33:03.580 was a delightful movie, basically family friendly.
00:33:07.400 I mean, I've got six year old kids.
00:33:08.740 I probably wouldn't watch it with them, but you know, if you've got older kids, it's a
00:33:11.720 family friendly kind of very, um, Mark Twainian sort of just adventure slash coming of age
00:33:20.120 tale.
00:33:20.620 And, um, I really, I really enjoyed it.
00:33:22.660 I'm not a big fan of Shia LaBeouf, but he, uh, he impressed me in that one.
00:33:26.440 So I will, I will also give my stamp of approval on the peanut butter Falcon, a little bit
00:33:30.580 of a, a little bit of a weird ending, but other than that, pretty good movie.
00:33:35.320 This is from Larry says, hi, Matt, I saw you talking about fishing the other day.
00:33:38.660 I didn't realize you were an angler.
00:33:40.200 Here's a good question for you from someone who's just getting into it.
00:33:43.700 What is the biggest mistake novice bass fishermen make?
00:33:47.440 Um, well, there's a lot of mistakes.
00:33:51.060 I mean, pretty much everything.
00:33:51.980 I know when I, when I first started fishing, I'd say I did everything wrong.
00:33:55.220 Uh, and, and there, there are many things you could point to.
00:33:57.240 One of them is, is, you know, not choosing the right color of lore, uh, depending on the
00:34:02.960 water clarity and the season and the color of the bait that's actually in the lake or
00:34:06.900 the body of water you're fishing on.
00:34:08.140 You have to be sure that you have to know what else is in the lake and try to match your,
00:34:12.480 uh, your, the color of your bait to that.
00:34:14.660 And then again, like I said, water clarity is important.
00:34:17.280 So if it's, if it's a crystal clear lake, then you want your colors to be very muted and,
00:34:21.080 and, and realistic.
00:34:22.520 If it's a murkier lake, then you want to go either really, really dark.
00:34:26.680 So you get that nice silhouette the fish can see, or maybe really bright.
00:34:30.040 You know, this is where you want to get louder and more obnoxious just to, just so the fish
00:34:34.220 can, can locate the bait.
00:34:35.620 Uh, so that's a mistake.
00:34:37.040 Uh, people make mistakes in presentation, you know, it's important, especially in a, in a,
00:34:40.540 in a clear lake, the way that you make the bait move under the water, that's going to
00:34:45.720 trigger or not trigger the reaction bite from the fish, fish are predators, bass fish are
00:34:49.940 predators.
00:34:50.880 Um, and so you want to trigger that instinct to go after the, the bait.
00:34:55.860 That's going to be a lot of that is going to be presentation, but I would say the, the
00:35:00.800 number one mistake, at least the number one mistake I made was location, not finding the
00:35:08.440 right location and stay and, and being too, uh, staying put rather than, you know, not
00:35:15.900 being mobile enough.
00:35:17.280 Cause when you're fishing, this is really hunting and you're going out and you got to find where
00:35:21.860 the fish are.
00:35:22.740 You know, it's, it's, it seems like a really basic and obvious tip and it is, but it's one
00:35:29.940 that took me a while to figure out.
00:35:31.320 Okay.
00:35:31.660 Yeah.
00:35:31.820 If you're fishing, you actually have to find where the fish are first, which means that,
00:35:35.240 you know, if you're at a lake or something, I see people doing this all the time.
00:35:37.840 I see guys at lakes and, um, they, you know, they just walk out onto a dock or they're on
00:35:43.580 the, the, the bank and they just are standing there for hours, just casting out in the same
00:35:48.840 spot.
00:35:50.000 Just, you know, obviously there's no fish there.
00:35:52.540 So you want to look at location.
00:35:54.500 If it's in the summer, um, especially, you know, you want to look in shady spots, you're
00:35:59.500 looking around structure.
00:36:01.700 Okay.
00:36:02.060 If there's rocks and stumps and things, you want to go to grass, you want to go to weeds,
00:36:05.780 all that stuff.
00:36:06.360 That's where fish are going to hide out.
00:36:07.900 They're not just going to be out in the middle of, you know, some, uh, if there's some big
00:36:12.380 open spot in the middle of the lake, they're probably not going to be there.
00:36:15.140 If it's colder, if you're trying to go fishing right now, for example, then you want to go
00:36:18.480 deep.
00:36:20.140 Um, which unless you know the topography of the lake, unless you know what's under there,
00:36:25.160 it's, it's probably a waste of time.
00:36:27.820 So you want to know, like if you can go deep and you happen to know if you're in 20 feet
00:36:32.660 of water and you happen to know that underneath you there's grass or there's structure, there's
00:36:37.360 an underwater Island or something, then, um, then that could be a good spot.
00:36:40.920 If you have no idea what's under the lake and it's a big lake, probably just going out into
00:36:45.320 the middle of the lake and throwing a bait in is, you know, you're probably not going
00:36:48.820 to catch anything, but you know, it doesn't mean you can't try.
00:36:51.760 So that would be the main thing you want to keep, you want to, you want to find the right
00:36:55.540 location.
00:36:56.040 You want to keep moving.
00:36:57.480 If you're in a location and there's no fish there, then you want to move to the next spot.
00:37:01.500 This is what makes fishing off of the shore more difficult than if you're in a boat because
00:37:05.780 you're a little bit less mobile, but, uh, just keep moving.
00:37:09.160 And, you know, they say that 90% of the fish will be in 10% of the lake.
00:37:14.440 So keep that in mind.
00:37:16.240 You got to find that 10%.
00:37:17.620 And if you're in a spot, you're not getting any bites.
00:37:20.020 It could be that you're in the, you know, the 90% where there aren't any fish.
00:37:26.480 All right.
00:37:27.500 Thanks for that, for that question though.
00:37:29.640 I did threaten on Twitter a few days ago to do an entire show on bass fishing tips and
00:37:36.520 don't put it past me to do that.
00:37:38.320 If I keep getting emails like this, you know, you might tempt me, but thanks for that.
00:37:45.260 Um, and hope everyone has a great weekend.
00:37:47.380 Nice short week for us.
00:37:48.620 Godspeed.
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