The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 412 - A Simple Message

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the show, everybody. Welcome especially to any marchers who might be listening as the

00:00:04.800 March for Life happens in D.C. today. I've told you before, the thing that I love about the March

00:00:11.180 for Life the most is that the March participants are, you know, not, they don't stand to gain

00:00:17.220 anything from this. Their motivations are not selfish because it's, their demands are not

00:00:23.700 self-serving. Every single person, hundreds of thousands of people there right now in D.C.

00:00:27.800 by marching in place of somebody else. Now, the Women's March, by contrast, which happened last 0.97

00:00:37.260 week, and so many others of its types have been mostly about people saying, you know, do such and

00:00:44.700 such for me. Give me something. Help me. Me, me, me, me. But the March for Life is different. The March

00:00:51.580 for Life says, do this for them. Give them a chance. Give them their rights. Them, them, them, them.

00:00:57.800 Turning the focus away from the individual and to those people, those human beings who are being

00:01:04.620 victimized. And those human beings, the them in this case, of course, are unborn children.

00:01:10.700 You know, whereas the people at the so-called Women's March say, forget about them, let them die.

00:01:16.160 People at the March for Life say, remember them, let them live. That's the, those are the two

00:01:21.320 contrasting, competing points of view on this issue. And it's a very stark dividing line in

00:01:28.820 our culture. Because the question is asked, and must be answered, should these children be given a

00:01:37.000 chance or not? And however you answer that question, we'll decide what side of the line

00:01:44.100 you belong on. Should they be given a chance or not? Should they be given a chance to live or not?

00:01:50.500 Now, our culture, of course, has answered no for the past nearly 50 years. The feminist movement,

00:01:57.660 liberalism, the media, Democrat Party, academia, all of these powerful voices, forces have joined

00:02:02.200 together in shouting no. Give them no chance. Give them nothing. Take everything from them. Take their

00:02:08.580 dignity. Take their rights. Take their lives. And when they're dead, don't stop taking. Take some 0.67

00:02:14.320 more. Take their limbs, their livers, their brains, their hearts. Carve them up. Make, make use of their 0.99

00:02:18.880 parts. Take it all. Because they're nothing to us. They are, they are insects. In fact, they are lower 0.84

00:02:26.180 than insects because we would sooner acknowledge the life of an insect than we would the life of a human

00:02:33.060 child in the womb. They are dirt to us. Let them die. And then pick apart their carcasses and throw 1.00

00:02:39.780 the rest in the dumpster. That has been the answer from our culture. People at the March for Life and

00:02:45.680 the pro-life movement, instead of saying no, give them no chance, the answer is different. It's a yes.

00:02:53.860 It is a rather, you know, the message and the answer from the pro-life movement is, is rather elegant in

00:03:00.220 its simplicity and forceful and compelling because of that simplicity. Every child should be given a

00:03:07.060 chance to live. Yes, we affirm the life of every human being at every stage of development, in the

00:03:14.000 womb and outside of it, at the beginning of life and at the end of it. Yes, a child is entitled to live

00:03:20.460 the life that they have been given. Yes, a child is, according to our country's own founding documents,

00:03:27.360 endowed by God with an inherent human dignity that no one on earth, not even his own parents,

00:03:33.420 can deny him. A child's existence may indeed require sacrifice on our part. It may feel burdensome

00:03:47.440 at times to care for people who cannot care for themselves, but that does not give us the right to

00:03:52.180 dispose of these people, like old scrap metal. Our children have the right to live, and so it is our

00:03:58.280 responsibility to care for them, to give them our time, our energy, our money, our love. And a civilized

00:04:05.400 society should recognize that obligation and enforce it by law, just as we do with children outside of the

00:04:11.880 womb. We say to parents, you have an obligation, you have a responsibility to those children. You can't

00:04:18.580 neglect them. You can't just toss them to the side. You can't just leave them in the house and go do your

00:04:22.480 thing. You have a responsibility to them. Doesn't matter if it's hard. Doesn't matter if it requires

00:04:28.760 sacrifice. You have to do it because they are your children. You are the parent. If I bring a child into

00:04:36.700 this world, it's my fundamental duty to tend to that child, to make whatever sacrifices that entails, and if I

00:04:42.980 cannot or will not, then it's my obligation to find somebody who will. But one thing that I cannot do

00:04:47.800 is just kill the child. That's it. That's what the pro-life movement says, and everybody at the

00:04:56.440 March for Life, what they say is, well, you know, that's our message to parents of born children, so why

00:05:02.320 would it not be our message to the parents of unborn children? A very simple thing. You don't get to kill

00:05:11.940 people because their existence interferes with your own. That is one of the most basic and fundamental

00:05:19.320 moral principles known to man, or at least it used to be. And that's the message. As I said, very

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00:07:19.500 medal. This man deserves a medal. Here's a voter confronting Elizabeth Warren about her student loan

00:07:24.160 forgiveness plan. And I love everything that he has to say. Listen to this.

00:07:29.660 I just want to ask one question. My daughter's getting out of school. I've saved all my money.

00:07:34.260 She doesn't have any student loan. Am I going to get my money back?

00:07:37.360 Of course not.

00:07:38.240 So you're going to pay for people who didn't save any money and those of us that did the right

00:07:43.120 thing get screwed. No, it's not even going to get screwed. Of course we did. My buddy had fun,

00:07:47.580 bought a car, went on vacations. I saved my money. He made more than I did. But I worked a double

00:07:53.160 shift, worked extra. My daughter's work sheet is 10. So you're laughing. Yeah, that's exactly

00:07:58.580 what you're doing. We did the right thing and we get screwed. I appreciate it.

00:08:02.060 So it might've been a little hard to hear over the din of the, of the crowd noise. What he was saying

00:08:07.440 is that he paid for his daughter's college. He worked a double, double shift. He made a lot of

00:08:13.600 sacrifices. Um, and he wants to know if he's going to get his money back under her plan.

00:08:18.960 And, um, her answer was, I loved her answer. Her answer was not just no. Her answer was,

00:08:24.500 of course not. Of course not. No, no, no. No, this isn't about you. It's we're not trying to

00:08:31.080 help you out. No. Now, as we've been talking about on this show, there is no response to his point.

00:08:40.240 Um, she has no response because there really isn't one to give. There is no morally coherent

00:08:46.520 rebuttal to his argument. He's saying I'm financially hurting now because of the sacrifices

00:08:51.900 that I made to pay for my daughter's college. I'm out that money. Um, I've had to do a lot of

00:08:59.380 things. I've had to change my whole lifestyle around. I've had to work double shifts and everything

00:09:02.840 to afford, uh, you know, sending her to college. Am I going to be made whole? Will I get restitution?

00:09:11.600 The only thing that a proponent of loan forgiveness can say, and, and, and, and this is,

00:09:16.440 this is what proponents have been saying about this guy from what I've seen online. The only answer

00:09:22.780 is, Hey, tough luck, deal with it. No, you don't get any money. You don't get, you know, Hey,

00:09:27.160 that's your problem. Quit your whining, you selfish jerk. Basically, here's the problem.

00:09:35.020 If you can say that to him, if you are a person who wants loan forgiveness and your message to this

00:09:43.380 guy is, Hey, tough luck. Shut up. You don't get your money back. Go cry about it. You whiner. If that's

00:09:51.280 your answer to him, why can't that be my answer to you? You see, if, if, if, if that's what you're

00:10:01.420 saying, why can't I throw that right back in your face? Why is it tough luck for him and not for you?

00:10:10.840 Why is tough luck such a terrible and evil thing for me to say to you,

00:10:14.640 but you could say it to him personally. Look, I mean, just from my perspective,

00:10:23.700 um, as someone who basically doesn't have a dog in this particular fight, because I don't have

00:10:30.040 student loans and I also didn't pay any back, although I have been paying my wife's loans back.

00:10:34.180 So I do have a dog in the fight as a matter of fact, but still from my perspective, I think that

00:10:39.580 guy is a much more sympathetic figure than you are. If you're somebody who has loans and you're

00:10:44.340 clamoring for loan forgiveness, because for the simple fact that he actually paid back his, uh,

00:10:49.860 you know, he, he fulfilled his, his financial obligations. This whole, his whole, this whole

00:10:54.480 idea was of forgiveness. Wasn't his idea. He wasn't the one clamoring for it. All he's saying is,

00:10:59.300 Hey, if we're doing this, then what about me? I just find that to be a much more sympathetic position

00:11:06.000 to be in. Um, as opposed to somebody who signed on the dotted line, accepted the loans, went to

00:11:14.280 college, got the education, and then immediately started crying. They don't want it to pay it back.

00:11:18.460 That, that, that to me is just not very sympathetic. So if, if you have this harsh dismissive answer to

00:11:24.700 this guy, then I think you've opened yourself up to the same sort of answer.

00:11:30.440 And of course we have the additional problem, as we discussed a few shows ago of people with other

00:11:38.240 forms of, of debt. Why not forgive theirs? So you create all these problems, all these unanswerable

00:11:44.720 questions when you start picking arbitrary winners and losers and forgiving some people that are

00:11:49.020 financial obligations, but not others. So what's the solution? Well, how about this? This is my solution.

00:11:56.360 And this is what I would say to that guy. We forgive nobody's debt, not mine, not yours, not

00:12:05.140 anybody's. Every adult is expected to settle their debts, live with the choices they made. And in the

00:12:12.320 future to stop the bleeding, as I have advocated many times, we start encouraging better choices. And

00:12:19.540 some of those choices are going to be like, don't go to college. Maybe there are a lot of people in

00:12:25.540 college who don't need to be there. A lot of people with a college education who don't need it.

00:12:30.300 And that's just insult to injury, right? When you're paying back a loan and you're, you've got

00:12:34.920 all this debt and you're not even using the education. And I can, I can understand how

00:12:40.320 frustrating that would be. So the real solution is, so we talked about this yesterday in regards to

00:12:46.380 something else. And somebody was saying, what's the solution? Well, most of the time in life with

00:12:52.400 these sorts of things, the only solution is people have to make better choices. That really is the

00:12:58.160 only feasible solution. So with college and student loans and everything, the only real solution is just

00:13:06.480 that people stop being reckless and foolish. It is reckless and foolish to take on enormous debt

00:13:17.100 to go to college when you don't even know what you want to do with your life. And you don't know if

00:13:22.720 you're going to use the education. Now, if you do know what you want to do and you have a certain

00:13:26.560 plan and you know, you need to get the education in order to achieve your goals, then that's not

00:13:33.440 reckless. That's a risk, but it's a calculated smart risk. You want to be an engineer, you want to be a

00:13:41.140 doctor, you know, you need the education, you take it on. There's a definite risk there, but it's

00:13:46.340 calculated, it's smart. To take on a six-figure debt and go to college when you don't even know,

00:13:52.600 when you have no idea what you want to do with your life, that's stupid. That's a stupid, reckless

00:13:57.260 thing to do. What's the solution? People need to stop doing stupid and reckless things. That's it.

00:14:05.360 It's the same thing for if we're talking about mortgage or people with car loans.

00:14:15.000 And if you find that, you know, you can't afford your house, you probably should have bought a house

00:14:18.780 you can afford. What else can we say? That's the solution. All right. Speaking of homes, let's

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00:15:49.700 that's kind of gone viral and it's gotten a lot of attention. The title of the article,

00:15:54.660 Millennials Love Zillow Because They'll Never Own a Home. You got to love these millennial

00:16:02.140 woe is me type articles. There's a lot of them on the internet these days and here's one of them.

00:16:08.240 There's a few points I want to make about this. First, I'll read a little bit of this article from

00:16:11.600 Angela Lashbrook on Medium. It says, the apartment I found on Zillow has cornflower blue walls and

00:16:19.440 original details with crown molding still intact, a rarity among today's bleached and flavorless

00:16:25.040 condo renovations. It has picture windows and a functional fireplace and it's only a couple

00:16:29.940 blocks from Prospect Park. It isn't perfect. The kitchen is mismatched and hideous and the second

00:16:34.720 of two bedrooms is minuscule, little more than a walk-in closet with a window, but it's big enough

00:16:39.440 for a small child and the place is charming, well cared for and modestly sized without being a grim

00:16:44.760 shoebox. It would be perfect for my husband and me and our dog and even a kid if we decide to have

00:16:49.160 one. I can envision our bed frame and the little armchair in the bedroom next to the window and my

00:16:53.860 favorite of the framed art we own in the dining room. I imagine how I would renovate the kitchen

00:16:57.960 replacing the metallic backsplash with sunny yellow tile, but the apartment costs $850,000,

00:17:05.080 not including homeowner association fees, home insurance, and property taxes. The total monthly

00:17:10.700 cost according to Zillow would be $4,546. A 20% down payment would be $170,000. A lower down payment

00:17:18.840 while possible would carry with it mortgage insurance and likely higher interest.

00:17:23.640 Despite the apartment's humble size and middle-class appearance, owning it is an impossibility,

00:17:28.520 a daydream, nothing more. Millennials are less likely to buy a home than previous generations were 0.89

00:17:33.000 between the ages of 25 and 39. And it isn't because we don't want to. Research shows that we do.

00:17:39.000 But as homeownership becomes less of a reality and more of an illusion, many of us resort to merely

00:17:43.820 imagining ourselves in our own homes via the internet. Websites like Zillow, StreetEasy,

00:17:48.580 and Realtor.com or real estate-dedicated Instagram accounts allow many of us to daydream about the

00:17:53.460 security and stability that we could have if we could buy a home. Meanwhile, we're stuck renting.

00:18:00.700 So on its own, so forth. It goes on for a while. Okay. You get the point. Millennials can't, 1.00

00:18:08.820 the poor millennials can't buy homes. They really want to. And this woman has a home she'd really 0.99

00:18:15.340 love to buy and she can't because it turns out, a little bit of a logistical problem, it's $850,000.

00:18:22.380 Okay. So there's, and this article has resonated with a lot of millennials. That's how I saw it being

00:18:28.780 shared online. And there's a lot here that frustrates me. And I could, and I, I approach this

00:18:37.860 as a millennial and a homeowner. I am a millennial homeowner. So let me, we do exist. It is not an

00:18:45.880 illusion. My house that I'm in right now is not an illusion. It is a real house. So first of all,

00:18:52.240 it's not true that millennials can't buy homes or that most of us never will owning a house is a

00:19:03.100 very much a feasible possibility. It's just that, see, you might not be able to own the exact house

00:19:10.360 you want in the exact area you want for the exact price you want. So yes, those houses you're looking

00:19:19.080 at on Zillow, the house shopping you do when you don't have to worry about silly things like

00:19:23.660 budget, the houses that you find in that scenario, those houses you may never own.

00:19:30.860 It shouldn't be surprising that if you go on Zillow with no budget and you start looking at the houses,

00:19:38.100 you're going to see a lot of really nice houses that you'd love to own, but you can't.

00:19:42.440 It's not surprising that this individual was able to find a house she really loves for $850,000.

00:19:49.320 I think pretty much anyone can find a house they love for $850,000, but it's $850,000 and most

00:19:56.000 people can't afford that. But that doesn't mean that you can't afford any house. You see, that's my

00:20:03.000 point. So we've got, um, what was her name again? We've got Angela here would love to own a home. She 1.00

00:20:11.980 talks about for the rest of the article, how much she'd love to own a house in general and how much it 0.95

00:20:16.020 sucks to be renting. Okay. I'm sure you can find Angela, a house on Zillow that you could afford.

00:20:23.080 It's just that it's not going to be that. It won't be your dream home. It won't be a home that

00:20:29.780 you can, you know, poetically describe for three paragraphs about all of the lovely features. It

00:20:36.900 might not be that kind of home, but you could still find a home. See, this is what you find a

00:20:43.080 lot in my generation. And I, and to me, it's, it's, it's pretty confounding. You hear millennials 1.00

00:20:48.660 say all the time, Oh, I can't do that. When really they can do it. It's just that they don't want to

00:20:56.400 make the sacrifices associated with it. So when they say, I can't do that, what they mean is

00:21:02.200 I can't do that while maintaining the level of comfort and luxury that I prefer. That's what they

00:21:08.380 mean. Or they mean, I can't do that in exactly the ideal kind of way that I would like to do it.

00:21:20.220 And so when someone says, I can't move out of my parents' house. Well, you can, any adult can,

00:21:26.820 if you're able-bodied and, and, uh, and everything, especially if you're employed,

00:21:30.120 you can do it, but you might not want to live in the sort of apartment you'd have to live in if you

00:21:35.460 did move out and you might not want to work as much as you'd have to work if you did move out.

00:21:40.380 And, um, and so that's why you're not moving out, but, and, and that's your choice, but just don't

00:21:46.260 say you can't, you can, you're choosing not to. And there's a difference. I'm not making any

00:21:52.620 judgments about the fact that you choose not to. Well, if you're an adult living at your parents'

00:21:57.460 house, eventually you really should move out. And, uh, but, uh, when it comes to buying a home,

00:22:03.100 you know, I, I, that's up to you. That's, I have no opinion about whether or not any,

00:22:07.560 any other person buys a home, but if you're sitting here and, and, and, you know, you're

00:22:11.880 gainfully employed and especially if you're married and your spouse is gainfully employed,

00:22:16.740 you can almost certainly afford a house as long as your credit is okay. If it's in shambles,

00:22:23.200 then you're, you know, that might, uh, preclude you for a while. But if you've got decent credit

00:22:29.400 and you've got it and you're gainfully employed, you, you can buy a house. It's just that it might

00:22:35.360 not be the kind of house you want. And if you're going on a website like, like Zillow, uh, that's

00:22:41.540 the problem with a website like Zillow is because you can, you know, back in the old days, I, I assume

00:22:46.840 before they had the internet and people went to buy homes, um, you know, there might've been catalogs

00:22:52.420 and pamphlets you could look through, but it was, you didn't have access to that much.

00:22:56.520 So if you were looking for a home in 1992, you probably weren't looking at homes in the $850,000

00:23:04.840 range because they weren't just a click away. Right. Um, but now you can. And so people look

00:23:12.620 at these houses and, uh, and then they can, you know, they can, they can look at the $850,000 range

00:23:17.980 and, and, and then they can start comparing those houses to the houses in the, let's say the $250,000

00:23:23.920 range, which is what they can afford. And the comparison makes those homes in the $250,000

00:23:28.660 range look terrible. And so they don't want to do it. And then they, they walk away dejected

00:23:34.940 saying, Oh, I can't buy a home. No, again, you can, it's just not, you can't buy that home

00:23:42.660 or a home in that range, which doesn't mean that you can't, you know, one thing that you

00:23:51.640 might do. One thing we did in the, in the house that I'm currently living in is we bought a house,

00:23:56.120 um, a cheaper house that needed some work. And then we did the work and we renovated it. And now

00:24:06.600 it's, you know, to, to me, it's, I'm not gonna call it my dream home or I don't, I don't, I'm not

00:24:11.160 sure I even have a dream home, but the home we live in now is exactly the kind of home I wanted.

00:24:17.400 But when we, when we were shopping for, for houses, I couldn't find exactly the kind of home

00:24:22.400 and we couldn't find exactly the kind of home we wanted that was moving ready. And so we found a

00:24:27.520 cheaper home that had the potential to be the home we wanted. And we, we put the work in. So,

00:24:31.900 you know, there are things you can do, but you have to be willing to make those sacrifices and kind

00:24:37.780 of adjust a little bit. I, you know, and I, and I do recommend homeownership for a few reasons.

00:24:43.020 First of all, of course, you're getting equity in something. You're not just throwing your money

00:24:46.780 away. I think sometimes about what I spent on apartments from the age of 20 to 20,

00:24:52.400 eight, when I was living in apartments and it gives me heartburn to think about how much money

00:24:57.420 I spend just throwing down a hole. Even when I was, even when I was single and I lived in a,

00:25:03.440 in a dumpy little place, it was only 500 bucks a month that I rented, but it looked like a $500

00:25:09.060 a month apartment. And it, and I specifically moved to a, to an area that had those cheap places,

00:25:14.940 not the nicest area, but even that lived there for five years, $500 a month, uh, wasn't making a lot

00:25:21.760 of money during that time. And that works out to what, like 30 grand. I'm terrible at math. So

00:25:28.280 was that for five years? I think so. Um, that's, it was a lot of money and I have nothing to show

00:25:36.220 for it. It's just, it's, it's gone. Right. Uh, whereas with a house, you put the money into it

00:25:41.860 and, uh, and you can always get it out. We sold the first house that we bought,

00:25:45.640 uh, you know, five years ago or so we lived in it for three years. We moved,

00:25:50.700 hadn't even come close to paying it down, but we sold it and we got back all the money we put

00:25:55.440 into it plus extra. And you can do that with a house and that's nice. But here's the other thing

00:26:01.660 that's good about home ownership, I think, and buying a home and that process. I think it's a

00:26:08.080 learning process and it's a growth process. And I think there are a lot of people in my generation

00:26:12.980 that, that could, could benefit from the process of, of buying a home because, because buying a

00:26:19.940 home is all about managing expectations. You, you, you learn a lot about the world, you know,

00:26:25.840 and about life and how unfair life is and how nothing is exactly, you know, things that are too

00:26:32.360 good to be true really are. And you're not going to find the ideal situation that you're looking for,

00:26:36.460 right? There's a difference between the, the reality you conjure in your head, in your dreams,

00:26:41.320 in your fantasies and, and reality itself in three dimensions. And you learn stuff like that

00:26:46.960 when you're buying a home and it's an important lesson to learn. And you learn things like if

00:26:51.700 you're, if you are looking on Zillow and you see a home that is your dream house and everything looks

00:26:57.160 amazing and it's affordable, what you learn is pretty much a 100% chance when you go to look at

00:27:04.000 the house, there are going to be massive problems with it. There's a reason, there's a reason why

00:27:07.400 it seems too good to be true. Yeah. We went through that with our first house that we bought.

00:27:12.400 We saw a house we were doing home when we were, when we were shopping for the home, we found a house

00:27:18.260 that, that was very affordable under our budget on a nice chunk of land. It seemed like big house,

00:27:26.300 like way bigger than we needed. But, um, and we thought this is incredible. How is this house so

00:27:32.060 cheap? And then we went to look at it and it was, the house was half built. Somebody had been

00:27:37.040 building the house and then given up and tried to sell it. And you didn't see that part. You didn't

00:27:42.160 see the unfinished, the whole unfinished part of the house and the Zillow pictures. And so, you know,

00:27:46.540 it's, it's a common thing that you go through when you're buying houses. And it's clear to me that

00:27:51.080 there are a lot of millennials that could use lessons like that. Where ultimately, yeah. Um, you hear

00:27:58.200 people say, I don't want to settle. I don't want to have to settle in life. Well, you know, then, then

00:28:04.200 you're not going to ever live a life because life is about settling. I have news for you.

00:28:08.100 You're going to have to settle. When you buy a house, you're going to be settling. You're not

00:28:11.400 going to find exactly what you wanted. You're going to settle. There are going to be things

00:28:14.780 when you go into the, to the house buying, uh, process, there are things that you, that

00:28:20.680 you want that you consider to be non-negotiable. Okay. I want this out of the house, out of the

00:28:25.560 property, so on. What you're going to find is that you, you have to negotiate on some of

00:28:29.720 those. And, and you're going to start paring down what your non-negotiable things are.

00:28:35.280 You start with a list of like 10 things that are non-negotiable that you absolutely want

00:28:39.960 in a house, in a neighborhood, in a community. And you discover you're not going to find those

00:28:44.580 10 things, uh, unless you strike it rich and win the lottery. So then eventually it whittles

00:28:50.560 down and you're left with maybe like two things that are non-negotiable. It's an important process.

00:28:57.620 And, um, and one that's, uh, that I think people should go through. All right. Before we get to

00:29:05.820 emails, a word from policy genius, you know, life is, is unpredictable guys. I mean, speaking of

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00:29:56.860 It really is a moral obligation, I think, to, um, to be prepared in this way, to have life insurance,

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00:30:17.820 right. All right, let's go to emails, mattwalshow at gmail.com, mattwalshow at gmail.com. Um, this is

00:30:29.760 from Matthew says, big fan of the podcast. I've been listening to it for a while now. I have a question

00:30:37.480 for you that would, uh, for what would happen under your regime with this situation. My soon to be wife

00:30:43.740 wanted to invite her dinner and her friend and husband over for dinner. That was my first time

00:30:48.380 meeting them and wanted to make a good impression. I love cooking and I asked my fiance, do they like

00:30:53.520 meatloaf? Once they answered the question with yes, I started preparing the dish. I use deer meat from

00:30:58.360 the deer I harvested a month ago. I time it perfectly to be done by the time they arrive. Once they arrive

00:31:03.900 and we meet, my fiance and I get all the food ready to serve. I even get some bourbon out for myself and

00:31:08.980 the husband to enjoy. None for the women, huh? You sexist. As we start eating, my fiance and her

00:31:17.300 friend's husband tell me how good the meatloaf is. My fiance's friend looks at me and asks if I have

00:31:23.260 mustard. Looking at her confusingly, I hand her some mustard out of the fridge. She covers the loaf

00:31:29.500 with mustard, even though I had a special barbecue sauce I made already on the dish. I was disgusted and

00:31:35.380 still might go see a therapist under your regime. How would you handle this mustard disaster? 1.00

00:31:42.060 First of all, mustard on meatloaf is deranged. And this is why under my regime, you're not going

00:31:49.820 to be allowed to just put any condiment you want on a dish. We got to get control of this. This has

00:31:56.240 gone way overboard. There have to be some limits. There have to be some limits on freedom. And when I'm

00:32:03.500 in charge, there will be lots of limits on freedom, as you know. This is one. People cannot be trusted

00:32:09.860 with their own condiments. And so when I'm in charge, there will be a list of all the approved

00:32:14.160 condiments. First of all, all the approved dishes that you may eat. It'll be a generous list, you know,

00:32:19.780 probably at least 10 items on it. And then here are the condiments that go with that dish.

00:32:25.360 You don't have to use the condiments. I'm not saying that, but I am saying you cannot use a condiment

00:32:30.380 that's not approved for that specific dish. Um, in this case, it's even more outrageous because

00:32:36.200 you, you made a homemade venison meatloaf and homemade barbecue sauce. And this person

00:32:44.260 requests a condiment that was not even provided at the table and then smothers it all over your

00:32:49.440 beautiful dish. That is a, that is a, that is an outrageous insult. Just so you know, I mean,

00:32:54.800 etiquette here, people, and this is the same things happen to me. So you could see I'm taking this

00:32:58.720 personally. Um, if somebody prepared, now it's one, look, if you get pizza or something,

00:33:04.500 you're doing takeout pizza and you put whatever condiment you want on it, but, uh, and you can

00:33:10.660 request a condiment. If you're at somebody's house and you're ordering takeout and there's a condiment

00:33:15.700 you want for the dish and they haven't brought it out to the table. I think in that case, it's okay to

00:33:19.420 say, Oh, do you have X, Y, Z? But if it's a homemade dish and, and this is someone who, who, who cares about

00:33:28.320 their cooking and puts time into it as, as our friend Matthew did, first of all, eat what's on

00:33:35.580 your plate and use the condiments that are at the table to ask for a condiment that was not provided

00:33:41.460 is an insult. Number one, you're ruining the dish. Um, number two, what you're saying is this isn't

00:33:49.440 inedible to me. I cannot eat this unless, unless you give me this assistance with this other condiment.

00:33:54.080 Um, and, uh, it's insulting. So that's, you know, I, I just, just, just so you know why I'm,

00:34:02.540 why I get so emotional about this. I will never forget the time when I made chili for a guest at

00:34:08.780 my house and they put syrup on it, syrup on the chili that I had made, that I had slaved over.

00:34:18.560 That I spent 12 hours making in the slow cooker. All of the flavors and spices were exactly correct.

00:34:27.560 It was the right balance of everything. Doesn't need anything. You want to put some cheese on it?

00:34:32.200 Fine. Sour cream. Okay. Syrup. You might as well, she, you might as well just get up and spit in my 1.00

00:34:38.940 face, spit directly in my face. You might as well. It's the same thing. All right. Um, this is from

00:34:46.560 Aaron says, dear Matt, you argued on the show that it is morally wrong to have a massive house

00:34:51.140 because in that situation, the morally right thing to do would be to give the money to someone

00:34:55.220 who needs it. While I agree that it is morally right to give the money to the poor. I believe

00:34:59.920 that you presented a false dichotomy between morally right and wrong. I believe there is a

00:35:04.220 third option, morally permissible. For example, in your case with the house, I know someone who gives

00:35:09.460 upwards of 30% of his income to charity and yet also has an 11 bedroom house. The distinction I want

00:35:14.680 to make is that at a certain point, it can be morally permissible to spend money on yourself,

00:35:18.360 even if it would be morally right to give it to the poor. Thanks for all you do. Love the show.

00:35:22.840 But as a freedom loving American, I will be forced to lead the rebellion against your

00:35:25.760 dictatorship. Sorry in advance. I'm not sure I agree with you here. You're drawing a distinction

00:35:30.340 between morally permissible and morally right. You're saying that there could be something that

00:35:35.180 is morally permissible, but is not morally right. See, I don't think I agree with that.

00:35:42.020 I think if something is morally right, if something is not morally right, it is morally wrong.

00:35:50.540 Another way, maybe another term that we could be using would be morally licit versus morally illicit.

00:35:58.560 And in that case, something that is morally licit is both morally permissible and morally right.

00:36:05.720 But to draw a distinction between right and permissible, I just don't know if I agree with that.

00:36:11.120 There are things that are morally neutral or are effectively morally neutral. So the color of

00:36:17.740 the shirt, I'm wearing a blue shirt. That was a morally neutral decision. There's not a lot of

00:36:22.660 moral content to the decision of what color shirt to wear. But it wouldn't be accurate to say that

00:36:29.940 me wearing a blue shirt is not morally right, but it is morally permissible. No, it was a morally right

00:36:37.640 decision. It's just that the moral implications of my shirt color are so minor as to essentially be

00:36:44.160 non-existent, right? So what I'm saying is that if somebody is doing a morally permissible thing with

00:36:49.280 their money, it must also be morally right in that it can't be morally permissible and morally not right.

00:36:58.660 Am I saying that your friend is morally wrong for buying an 11-bedroom house? No, I'm not.

00:37:03.580 I can't make that decision. I don't know his situation. I mean, there are certainly... I'm not

00:37:10.320 saying that there's a certain number of bedrooms that it's okay to have, and if you go over that

00:37:16.700 number, it's morally wrong, or that there's a certain correct size for the house. I'm not saying

00:37:21.100 that. There are certainly scenarios where a person could own a bigger house and there's no moral

00:37:28.440 problem at all. I mean, one example would be you find a good deal on a, you know, on a really old

00:37:35.480 house. I mean, a lot of the older houses tend to be bigger, and, you know, and, okay, fine. It's a

00:37:42.600 beautiful old house, and I don't think there's nothing overindulgent about that or obscene about

00:37:47.620 it. However, there can be situations where buying an obscenely big house, you know, could be morally

00:37:55.740 wrong. It's just, it's... I don't think that you can set up exact parameters and say, if you go over

00:38:01.320 this, I think it's a case-by-case basis. And it also has a lot to do with the intentions and what's

00:38:07.040 in the heart of the individual. But my point yesterday was simply that, obviously, there is a

00:38:14.080 point. We could talk about where that point is, but there is a point where a person could be living in

00:38:20.840 a way that is greedy, materialistic, and overindulgent. And if somebody is living that

00:38:25.400 way, that's morally wrong. If they're not, then there's no moral issue, and that's it.

00:38:35.620 All right, I have another email, a slightly more contentious email on this topic to read. But before

00:38:40.860 we do, you know, if you're a listener to this show, you know, and we just talked about it,

00:38:46.440 to start the show, the March for Life, pro-life issue, you know how important it is? Not just to

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00:38:59.780 what people are marching for in D.C. today, is to speak up for those children. But the people who

00:39:09.200 are the proponents of killing babies, people on the side of killing babies, it maybe is not so

00:39:16.600 surprising that they can tend to be vicious, and underhanded, and deceptive in their tactics.

00:39:21.960 And if you come out against them, they're going to respond. They're going to try to,

00:39:25.980 they're not just going to respond rhetorically with arguments, they're going to try to destroy you.

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00:39:34.820 that's what they're going to do. And we've faced that ourselves at The Daily Wire. We've had our

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00:40:34.640 Pamela. It says, Dear Matt, you completely misunderstood Brian's email to you. First of all, when you're

00:40:42.300 talking about slave labor, you are implying that it is here in the United States, which it is not.

00:40:49.360 That was his point. Also, the exception does not make the rule. Are some wealthy people greedy?

00:40:55.080 Probably. As are some leeches on society. Does that make all poor people greedy? No, it does not. 0.96

00:41:01.240 All your statement does is reinforce the liberal lie that all wealthy people are bad. And what is

00:41:06.780 immoral about owning more than one house? You are enforcing the don't waste food, there are people

00:41:11.660 starving in China rhetoric. On that note, you also said that life is not fair and that some black people

00:41:16.860 live in poor areas and that we wouldn't know what it's like because of our privilege. I am white,

00:41:21.940 and for a period of my childhood, I ate from trash cans. We were so poor. We keep the racist lie

00:41:28.220 alive with nonsense comments like yours. You are clearly trying to play both sides of the issue.

00:41:33.940 Don't. Pick a side. It doesn't make you appear superior or open-minded. On the contrary, it makes

00:41:38.740 your opinion appear weak. I realize you have your own style. I try hard to see past that as I do enjoy

00:41:44.020 the Daily Wire, but you stepped so far over the line yesterday and today again, I'm not sure how much

00:41:49.080 longer I can keep listening. And for the record, only people with no self-control eat and drink at

00:41:54.880 unhealthy levels on cruises. Plenty of us work out and limit our alcohol and food intake.

00:42:00.260 Thanks, Pamela. And thank you for the note at the end there. Your self-control is an inspiration to us

00:42:05.980 all. But speaking of misunderstanding the point, good Lord, your email, Pamela, and I say this

00:42:19.360 with no offense intended, but just one long list of non-sequiturs and straw men. It is shocking to me

00:42:31.540 that you could have actually listened to the things I've been saying for the last two days.

00:42:34.900 And that's what you come away with. First of all, I never said or implied that companies who use

00:42:44.640 slave labor are doing it in the U.S. In fact, I specifically said that slave labor is especially

00:42:49.420 an issue for companies that outsource overseas. I specifically said that. Though,

00:42:56.720 I never said that all of them use slave labor. I said some of them have. Some. Why is the word

00:43:05.000 some so difficult to comprehend? Why? It's not just you, Pamela. Why is it hard for people to

00:43:10.340 understand that the statement such and such sometimes happens is not the same as such and

00:43:16.800 such always happens? There are things that sometimes happen. In fact, most things that happen

00:43:23.180 only happen sometimes. So the word sometimes is a really important word to understand. It is not

00:43:29.160 the same as always, Pamela. Second, for the 10th time, I never said all wealthy people are greedy

00:43:38.620 or that all wealthy people are bad. And I specifically repudiated that notion. In depth, at length,

00:43:48.360 I repudiated it. I said some are greedy. Some. Some. Some. Some. S-O-M-E. Please look it up. Some.

00:44:03.200 You know, this is an issue that exists in the world. Greed is an issue. It's a real issue. That's my

00:44:09.420 point. Now, if you want to disagree with that, then you have to understand what you're disagreeing with.

00:44:15.800 You are not disagreeing with my point that all wealthy people are greedy because that was not

00:44:21.340 my point. That's not the point I made. If you're disagreeing with my point, then you are disagreeing

00:44:27.320 that some wealthy people are greedy, which means what you're claiming is that no wealthy people are

00:44:32.260 greedy. If you're disagreeing with me, that has to be your claim. I also never said it's immoral to

00:44:42.800 own more than one house. Never said that. Never implied it. I also never brought race into it.

00:44:50.660 Okay? You brought race into it. I didn't. I mentioned, for example, a kid living in the

00:44:56.820 inner city with no father, surrounded by crime, etc. I also mentioned a kid growing up in a trailer

00:45:01.840 park with a meth-addicted mother. These were two hypothetical examples that are not just hypothetical

00:45:07.560 because we know that they exist in the real world, but these were two sort of standard examples

00:45:12.060 of the kinds of people who might grow up in a situation that, because of the situation they

00:45:17.000 were born into, it will all but preclude them from some opportunities.

00:45:20.780 Now, typically, the former example of someone in inner city, that's going to be a black child. 0.98

00:45:27.360 Typically, the latter will be white. So, I covered both bases. I didn't turn it into a racial issue.

00:45:35.240 You did. I didn't say that all white people are privileged. You interpreted it that way for some

00:45:42.140 unknown reason. And then you say, pick a side. What the hell are you talking about? Pick a side.

00:45:51.640 What side? Pick a side. What are the sides on the complex moral issues of human greed, privilege,

00:45:58.280 and poverty? That's what we're talking about here. And your response is, pick a side.

00:46:05.100 Pick a side. What an enormously silly thing to say, Pamela. Pick a side. 1.00

00:46:12.140 See, your problem is that, and I'm going to be real with you, and frankly, I don't care if you

00:46:17.520 listen or not. Maybe you haven't picked up on that by now. I really don't care. If me simply saying

00:46:24.560 that greed is bad offends you to this degree, if you are so allergic to nuance that you can't even

00:46:32.360 comprehend the word sometimes, Pamela, then I'm not sure I can provide for you the kind of content you

00:46:37.440 want, and I don't think I want to provide that sort of content, so you have to make your decision.

00:46:42.140 Your problem, and this is why it frustrates me so much, that I just, I am so tired of this.

00:46:50.780 I'm so sick of it. You have bought into these simplistic talking points that you see on cable

00:46:57.840 news, and you see in Facebook memes, and you've bought into them to such an extent that you

00:47:02.620 literally hear those talking points even when they're not being said you hear them.

00:47:07.760 It's the only thing you're capable of hearing, apparently, are the talking points. You just

00:47:13.780 accused me of saying a whole bunch of things I never said. You can go back and look at it. It's

00:47:19.320 all on tape. I said one thing, and in your head, you imagine this whole other conversation that never

00:47:27.540 took place. Why? Because you've been told that the correct opinions with regard to this issue

00:47:36.440 are ABC. Okay, so on this issue, which is a very broad, very nuanced, complex, big topic, again, greed,

00:47:47.720 poverty, privilege, you know, these sorts of things, but you've boiled that whole topic,

00:47:54.580 you boil it down to a few basic talking points, and in your head, you think, if we're talking about

00:48:01.020 this, you have to say ABC, and any opinion that is not ABC is wrong, and is thus, I guess, liberal,

00:48:11.320 and so every non-ABC opinion is the opposite. It is an XYZ liberal opinion, so even if I'm saying

00:48:18.900 something else, you know, maybe I'm not giving you the ABC talking points, maybe I'm saying LMNOP or

00:48:24.300 something, you hear it as XYZ, because you've been told that there are only a few approved opinions

00:48:31.660 on this issue, and every non-approved opinion is a bad, evil, liberal opinion.

00:48:36.280 And so, when I was treading into this water to talk about it, you were expecting to hear the

00:48:46.260 standard, very, very basic, shallow, normal, right-wing, conservative thing, right? That's all

00:48:53.640 you were expecting to hear. That's all you wanted to hear. You heard something else, and instead of

00:48:58.720 actually listening to what I was saying, your mind went, I don't know, red flag, liberal, liberal,

00:49:04.400 liberal, liberal, and then you started inventing this whole thing that I must be saying, rather

00:49:08.100 than listening. Rather than listening to what I'm saying, in your head, you're just filling in the

00:49:11.840 blanks. Oh, he's actually saying this. He's a liberal. That's what the meme-ification of public

00:49:20.880 discourse has done. That's what cable news has done. I find it endlessly depressing and frustrating,

00:49:27.240 and I ask that you simply try to think these things through on your own, with your own brain,

00:49:32.740 rather than relying on the script you've been assigned.

00:49:38.180 If what I'm saying offends you, I don't care. I'm just so sick of this. You know, we try to have

00:49:44.160 an interesting, intelligent conversation, to have somebody busting in with, liberal, liberal,

00:49:49.440 pick a side. Jeez, come on. What a boring way to live, too. I mean, is that really how you see

00:49:58.180 everything? I don't know. Okay, but thanks for the email. Let's go finally to, do we have time?

00:50:13.620 Probably not. This is a longer one. All my emails are longer ones. So we will, unfortunately,

00:50:17.560 have to leave it on that note. All right, by the way, I don't know if you've been following this

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The Matt Walsh Show - January 24, 2020

Ep. 412 - A Simple Message

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