The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 416 - Transgender Child Molester Awarded Get Out Of Jail Free Card

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the show, everybody. We begin today with a story that is so incomprehensibly insane

00:00:05.040 that even the most cynical and jaded among you will have a hard time believing it. Me as the

00:00:10.540 most cynical and most jaded, I found it hard to believe. Somebody emailed the story to me. It's

00:00:16.080 the first I'd heard of it. And before I clicked the link, I thought, based on the description

00:00:20.460 and the email, I thought, well, there's got to be more to this. There's no way. No, no way.

00:00:25.240 Then I clicked the link and I find out, no, this is exactly it. The headline in the Des

00:00:29.720 Moines Register, convicted of sex crimes as a man, felon, no longer deemed threat because

00:00:36.840 of gender change. Translation, a man who raped 15 children, including a one-year-old baby,

00:00:45.160 is now getting out of prison because he claims to be a woman. This is really happening. This

00:00:51.220 is really happening in the United States in the year 2020. So I want to get into the details

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00:03:52.700 Okay, let's get back to this situation. I've got to read to you basically this whole story of the

00:04:00.220 Des Moines Register as reported by Tom Cullen, the reporter, because I just, you need, I want to give

00:04:07.820 you all the details about this. All right. So the Iowa Attorney General's Office, this is the Des Moines

00:04:15.100 Register. The Iowa Attorney General's Office is no longer seeking the commitment of a former Midwest

00:04:19.900 Christian Services student convicted of myriad sex crimes because the individual now identifies

00:04:24.820 as a woman. Court records show the state dismissed the application on January 9th.

00:04:31.580 Attorney General spokesman Lynn Hicks wouldn't comment on the reason for the dismissal other

00:04:36.220 than to say an offender's hormone levels are an important part of substantiating an offender's

00:04:40.860 likelihood of recidivism. In November, the Storm Lake Times reported that Joseph Matthew Smith,

00:04:45.780 a 23-year-old convicted of molesting a fellow MCS student in 2014, was undergoing medical treatment

00:04:52.100 that is needed prior to potentially undergoing gender reassignment surgery. Smith has received

00:04:58.000 treatment for gender reassignment over the past two years at Newton Correctional Facility.

00:05:03.320 She first expressed, now I'm reading the article, so I'm going to be using the pronoun she to

00:05:08.820 describe this man, but every time I say she, in your head, put the scare quotes around it, okay?

00:05:14.880 She first expressed a desire to get started on transgender classification in October 2017

00:05:19.380 and started using female pronouns. Smith has expressed a preference to identify as Josie,

00:05:24.880 according to court documents. Hicks said that we don't believe we have evidence sufficient to prove

00:05:29.800 Josie Smith has a significant chance of re-offending. An Iowa Department of Corrections spokesman said 0.98

00:05:35.780 Smith was transferred on Saturday to the Sioux County or the Sioux City Residential Treatment Facility

00:05:40.600 for transitional release. Hicks cautioned the public not to overreact to Smith's upcoming release.

00:05:49.100 Smith will be subject to sex offender registration for the rest of her life, Hicks said, which includes

00:05:55.340 regular meetings with a probation officer and a listing on an attorney general clearinghouse. So don't

00:06:00.060 worry. Yes, he's a serial sex offender, but he's going to be on a list and he's going to have

00:06:06.400 meetings. So don't be concerned. Josie Smith, according to Hicks, says, we will be subject to

00:06:13.880 strict sex offender reporting required of those who commit the crime she did. She'll be subject to

00:06:18.640 supervision for the rest of her life. A preliminary report prepared by the state's expert, Dr. Jeffrey

00:06:26.160 Davis, says Smith molested as many as 15 victims, raging from ages 1 to 13, before being sentenced to

00:06:34.640 prison in December 2015. The report found the likelihood of reoffending within five years of

00:06:39.900 release exceeded 20% because victims were of both genders and because Smith was under the age 25 and

00:06:45.800 never had a long-term relationship. Smith has not had an intimate relationship, the report says.

00:06:52.940 His sexual encounters appeared to have primarily involved molestation, including his own molestation

00:06:57.740 by multiple perpetrators or his victimization of others. He was molested as a child starting at the age

00:07:03.020 of seven. Okay. And then it goes on from there. I'm seeing if there's any other details here that

00:07:11.500 are important. Dr. Tracy Thompson, Thomas, a forensic psychologist, said that the statute that

00:07:20.880 outlines civil commitment requires the state to essentially prove an offender has a chance

00:07:24.620 offending greater than 51% for the rest of his life. That becomes harder to prove when an offender

00:07:31.000 significantly lowers his testosterone levels, which has a significantly higher impact on sex drive

00:07:35.900 than estrogen. Okay. Where do we even begin? As I said, there are many layers of this putrid,

00:07:43.740 rancid onion. So in no particular order, let's start here. First of all, it's not even true that this man,

00:07:53.000 this man, this dude, this male individual, this male scumbag, I should say, it's not true that he's less

00:08:01.620 likely to re-offend because he transitioned to a female, quote unquote. That's simply not true.

00:08:08.100 In fact, they actually did a study on this, a legitimate study, the longest and most involved

00:08:16.280 study of its kind, as far as I know, where they, it involved 324 people over the course of 30 years.

00:08:23.960 And they looked at whether there was any change in several different things, but including criminality,

00:08:30.560 reduction in crime, including violent crimes for transgenders who transitioned from male to female.

00:08:36.320 And they found, no, they found that these male to females retain the same rate of violent crime

00:08:42.700 as regular males. Probably because they're still male at the end of the day. Second, even if it was

00:08:51.900 true, it's beside the point. Even if it was true that his chances of re-offending have now been

00:08:59.300 somewhat or even significantly diminished because he's on these hormone pills, that would still be

00:09:06.140 beside the point. It's irrelevant because we're missing something here. And it's a big thing.

00:09:12.440 And that thing is called justice. The point of prison is not simply to segregate dangerous people so

00:09:19.700 that when they're supposedly not dangerous anymore, we can release them. That's not the whole point.

00:09:27.140 That's part of the point. Segregation of dangerous people is part of the point of prison. It's not the

00:09:32.320 entire point. Not even close to the entire point. And it's not the main point. If it was, then why is

00:09:40.560 somebody like, I don't know, Bernie Madoff still in prison? He's probably not a danger to anybody

00:09:45.840 anymore. Is he still alive? I don't even, is he still alive? I'm not sure. But if he is, he's

00:09:51.660 probably not a danger to anybody anymore. Yeah, he scammed hundreds of people out of their life

00:09:55.820 savings, but probably he wouldn't be able to do it again after he's famous for doing it the first

00:10:02.260 time. And so release him from prison, put him on a scam artist registry. And then he can go about his

00:10:12.300 life. We could have a registry for everything. A murderer registry, car thief registry. No need

00:10:21.260 for prisons anymore. In fact, with murder, think about it just as a hypothetical example, but one that

00:10:26.580 has many analogous cases, think about someone, say a man in his fifties who murders his wife in a fit

00:10:33.720 of passion after finding out that she cheated on him. Okay. What are the chances that that guy will

00:10:41.780 kill somebody else? He's not a serial killer. He's not even necessarily a psychopath. Let's say he lived

00:10:47.600 the first 50 years of his life, never hurt anybody. So what are the chances that he does it again?

00:10:52.360 Probably less than, I would say significantly less than 50%.

00:10:58.840 So if you're letting this guy out of prison, why put people who murder others in a crime of passion

00:11:05.900 in prison? Their risk of killing again is pretty low, probably. Well, that doesn't work.

00:11:17.740 Because for one thing, being on a registry, having your name on a database doesn't do a single damn

00:11:25.120 thing to prevent you from committing a crime. For another, it's not only about crime prevention,

00:11:31.880 it's about justice. Justice matters too, a lot. It matters a lot. So I don't care if you can look

00:11:37.360 into a crystal ball and tell me that this dude will never hurt another child again. You can't.

00:11:43.480 And if you did have a crystal ball telling you that, then I would say your crystal ball is defective

00:11:47.480 because he will do it again. Will. People who are serial child molesters, people who get into their

00:11:53.620 20s and, as the report says, have had many sexual interactions, but all of them are molestation,

00:12:02.100 whether to him or by him. People like that, they don't snap out of it.

00:12:09.720 And you let him out of prison in his early 20s, he's not going to spend the final 60 years of his

00:12:15.780 life or however long he lives on the straight and narrow. It's not going to happen.

00:12:23.080 Because we're dealing with someone who is sick and dangerous. This is a sick and dangerous person.

00:12:28.480 And sick and dangerous people don't magically suddenly stop being that.

00:12:32.900 But, again, regardless of that, justice. The man deserved to be punished for what he did

00:12:43.060 because that is justice. You molest a child, you molest a one-year-old, for God's sake.

00:12:51.440 Justice calls for you to be in prison forever, never to see the light of day again.

00:12:56.780 In fact, justice calls for a short walk up the gallows and then an even shorter trip back down

00:13:03.780 with a rope around your neck. That's what it calls for. This guy shouldn't even be living anymore.

00:13:08.420 He should be executed. That's what we should be doing with serial child molesters.

00:13:14.800 I'm very much convinced of that. But, at a minimum, justice calls for permanent life incarceration.

00:13:26.780 There is no benefit to society, at all, to being lenient on child molesters.

00:13:38.800 Third point, this man was molested as a child. That's not an excuse for what he did.

00:13:46.640 But, my point is, he was molested as a child, and then he became a serial child molester,

00:13:54.120 and then he goes to jail. And then he decides he's really a woman.

00:14:00.440 Do you think that revelation was due to some deep insight this guy has about his interior self?

00:14:07.620 Do you think all of these details, the fact that he's a sexual degenerate who was abused as a child,

00:14:12.100 do you think that's irrelevant to the sudden identification as a woman?

00:14:16.580 Even if it's true that a man can really be a woman inside, whatever the hell that means, 0.96

00:14:22.960 even if that was true, which it isn't, but even if it was,

00:14:26.460 does any sane person think that that's the case for this particular guy?

00:14:31.260 Isn't it incredibly obvious that he is just a confused, sick, depraved human being,

00:14:39.040 and his desire to live as a woman is yet another one of his perverse fantasies?

00:14:42.960 Isn't that obvious to everybody with a brain?

00:14:47.540 Again, regardless of how you feel about transgenderism generally,

00:14:50.980 the reality in this specific case should be obvious to everybody.

00:14:54.640 And he gets to leave prison because he transitioned.

00:14:59.660 I'm sure that had nothing to do with it, right?

00:15:01.840 The fact that he gets to leave now because he transitioned. 0.77

00:15:05.840 Just like the guys who discover their inner femininity, 0.98

00:15:08.480 and then, what do you know, get to walk into a women's locker room, 1.00

00:15:11.080 but we're told, no, that's got nothing to do with it.

00:15:13.600 They would never be motivated. Nobody would ever be motivated by that.

00:15:17.200 So if you transition, you can get out of jail free, 1.00

00:15:20.160 you can go into women's locker rooms, 1.00

00:15:21.480 but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, that would never be anyone's motivation, ever.

00:15:25.560 No, no, no, it could never, ever happen. It's impossible.

00:15:29.940 Right.

00:15:32.020 Fourth point, and yet in spite of all this,

00:15:35.540 the person who wrote the article I just read,

00:15:39.180 and the officials interviewed in the article, at least one of the officials,

00:15:44.380 they all reverently use the pronouns that this sicko, this baby rapist, wants. 0.54

00:15:51.480 Why?

00:15:55.040 Do you actually think he's a woman? 0.99

00:15:58.140 Is that really what you think?

00:16:00.460 The guy who wrote this article, and is using the word she,

00:16:03.160 is that really, you think this guy's a woman? 0.82

00:16:05.500 Is that, you really believe that?

00:16:09.160 If not, why are you barking like a dog,

00:16:11.960 and using the language he demands?

00:16:13.800 Why are you barking on command?

00:16:15.900 On this guy's command?

00:16:17.800 He says, call me a woman.

00:16:19.060 Okay, then I will.

00:16:20.620 Why?

00:16:22.000 You can't even look at this guy and say, sorry, buddy.

00:16:25.660 No.

00:16:26.600 I don't care what you want.

00:16:28.420 Makes no difference to me.

00:16:31.520 But you don't want to hurt his feelings?

00:16:34.400 You don't want to hurt the feelings of a man who molested a child, multiple children.

00:16:38.040 That's your concern?

00:16:40.580 You're going to sacrifice truth.

00:16:42.760 You're going to sacrifice rationality.

00:16:44.660 You're going to sacrifice your dignity.

00:16:46.400 You're going to humiliate yourself, embarrass yourself,

00:16:48.700 and play along with this nonsense,

00:16:50.760 all simply to preserve the feelings of a child rapist?

00:16:53.480 Really?

00:16:56.660 How spineless can you be?

00:16:59.540 This is beyond spineless.

00:17:01.340 This is boneless.

00:17:03.560 You are now a gelatinous puddle of a person,

00:17:06.300 laying there, flaccid and helpless,

00:17:09.000 with no will of your own.

00:17:10.160 That you would actually debase yourself

00:17:15.500 by using this person's preferred pronouns.

00:17:19.940 Fifth point,

00:17:25.340 let's not allow the judicial malpractice involved

00:17:29.540 in releasing this man from prison

00:17:30.920 distract from the malpractice involved

00:17:33.380 in the fact that he was allowed to transition in prison

00:17:36.100 in the first place,

00:17:37.240 on the taxpayer's dime.

00:17:39.640 Remember what it said,

00:17:40.360 Smith has received treatment for gender reassignment

00:17:42.060 over the past two years at Newton Correctional Facility.

00:17:45.520 So this guy molests 15 kids,

00:17:48.380 goes to jail,

00:17:49.940 gets a free gender transition out of the bargain, 1.00

00:17:54.440 is now released again,

00:17:57.780 and here again we have the feelings,

00:18:00.460 the confused, deranged feelings of a pedophile

00:18:02.780 given absolute top billing,

00:18:05.160 top priority.

00:18:07.580 What is the argument

00:18:08.860 in favor of using tax money

00:18:11.760 to help this guy transition?

00:18:15.160 There's no argument other than

00:18:16.600 it would make him feel good,

00:18:18.060 and he would feel bad

00:18:19.860 if he couldn't do it.

00:18:21.820 That's the argument

00:18:22.840 that wins the day?

00:18:24.700 That outweighs everything else?

00:18:26.840 And once again,

00:18:30.500 why does he want to transition?

00:18:33.200 Is it because he's identified

00:18:34.860 some mysterious, mystical truth

00:18:36.760 about his inner self?

00:18:39.060 Or is it because

00:18:40.120 this is another one of his six sexual fantasies?

00:18:44.460 Which do you think?

00:18:45.580 We now have prisons

00:18:49.400 spending money,

00:18:50.940 tax money,

00:18:51.960 to help pedophiles

00:18:53.240 live out their fantasies

00:18:54.880 in prison.

00:18:57.040 What if he wanted to be a furry?

00:18:58.520 Would you go and get him

00:18:59.240 a dog costume?

00:19:01.300 What if he had a BDSM thing?

00:19:02.760 Would you build him a sex dungeon? 0.99

00:19:04.220 I mean,

00:19:04.440 how far does this go?

00:19:08.940 This is,

00:19:09.700 there are,

00:19:10.400 we are at a point

00:19:11.360 where literally no words

00:19:12.860 can adequately describe

00:19:15.160 how crazy things have gotten.

00:19:21.980 And maybe you have

00:19:22.960 the same feeling I do,

00:19:23.900 but every day,

00:19:24.760 I feel like

00:19:25.900 there's a small collection

00:19:29.680 of sane people

00:19:30.580 left in this country.

00:19:31.380 And every day,

00:19:33.540 another person

00:19:34.620 abandons

00:19:35.700 the sane tribe.

00:19:37.600 And I always feel

00:19:38.540 such betrayal

00:19:39.220 when they do it.

00:19:41.380 And one way I know

00:19:42.320 is that I see yet another person

00:19:43.640 who I thought was,

00:19:44.620 who I thought was rational

00:19:45.560 and had a little bit of,

00:19:46.640 of,

00:19:47.280 of a spine.

00:19:48.600 You know,

00:19:48.820 I see them talking about

00:19:50.200 a case like this

00:19:51.000 and saying the word she.

00:19:54.100 And every time I see that,

00:19:55.300 I think,

00:19:55.620 I think,

00:19:55.960 E2?

00:19:57.120 E2, Brute?

00:19:59.520 You're going to do it too?

00:20:01.180 Really?

00:20:03.860 I mean,

00:20:04.320 am I the only one

00:20:05.140 who sees how,

00:20:07.160 am I the only one

00:20:08.220 who can look at someone

00:20:09.080 like this and say,

00:20:09.660 I'm not,

00:20:09.900 I don't give a damn

00:20:10.860 what your preferred language is.

00:20:14.760 I'm going to say

00:20:15.460 what the reality is.

00:20:16.580 I don't care about

00:20:17.480 the fantasy world

00:20:18.300 you're living in.

00:20:19.020 You cannot force me

00:20:26.500 to pretend

00:20:27.900 I don't understand reality.

00:20:30.240 It's not going to happen.

00:20:35.960 Sixth point.

00:20:37.440 The hormone pills

00:20:38.600 this guy has given

00:20:40.480 are supposedly so potent

00:20:42.400 that they're supposed

00:20:44.840 to have changed

00:20:45.640 a sex predator

00:20:46.620 into a non-predator.

00:20:48.660 They didn't,

00:20:49.560 as we stipulated,

00:20:50.420 they didn't.

00:20:51.100 And even if they did,

00:20:52.220 as we stipulated,

00:20:53.000 he should still be in jail.

00:20:54.280 But,

00:20:54.900 it is true in any case

00:20:56.520 that these hormone pills

00:20:58.120 are indeed

00:20:58.760 extremely potent.

00:21:00.240 And they do have

00:21:01.300 a profound lasting effect

00:21:02.780 on the people

00:21:03.260 who take them.

00:21:03.820 That is true.

00:21:05.160 No doubt about that.

00:21:07.560 So,

00:21:08.260 consider the fact

00:21:09.180 that these same pills,

00:21:12.920 the pill that is supposed

00:21:14.080 to have essentially

00:21:15.240 chemically castrated

00:21:16.480 this sex offender

00:21:17.480 in prison

00:21:18.020 and made it so

00:21:19.480 that he is neutered

00:21:20.780 and no longer

00:21:21.720 a danger to the public,

00:21:23.320 that same drug

00:21:25.980 is given to children.

00:21:29.700 Children.

00:21:31.560 Middle school kids

00:21:32.760 and younger

00:21:34.160 are given the same drug

00:21:36.120 this guy has.

00:21:37.260 The same drug

00:21:38.320 that is supposed

00:21:38.820 to have neutered

00:21:39.560 a serial

00:21:41.160 child molester.

00:21:43.520 That drug

00:21:44.880 we give

00:21:46.240 to actual children

00:21:47.560 because they're confused.

00:21:51.600 They're confused

00:21:52.460 about their gender

00:21:53.120 and so

00:21:54.020 we give them this drug.

00:21:57.460 I just,

00:21:58.840 I could go on

00:22:00.980 dissecting everything

00:22:02.480 that's wrong

00:22:02.980 with this story

00:22:03.880 and society

00:22:04.560 but you get the point.

00:22:07.140 And this is why

00:22:08.220 it's so important.

00:22:10.300 The few

00:22:11.320 remaining sane people,

00:22:13.400 if you're in,

00:22:14.540 you know,

00:22:14.880 if we're in the same club,

00:22:16.480 if we're in the same club,

00:22:18.520 you gotta,

00:22:19.440 you gotta stay with us.

00:22:20.740 It's really important.

00:22:21.900 Sanity.

00:22:22.520 That's what we need

00:22:23.060 in this country now.

00:22:24.120 Forget about everything else.

00:22:26.360 You know,

00:22:26.860 we're not at the point yet

00:22:27.620 where we can

00:22:28.160 have arguments

00:22:29.620 making a stand

00:22:31.920 for things like

00:22:32.800 patriotism

00:22:33.800 and,

00:22:34.340 I mean,

00:22:34.620 even morality.

00:22:35.640 We're not there yet.

00:22:37.660 We need to establish

00:22:38.700 basic sanity.

00:22:42.780 Basic rationality

00:22:44.160 and logic.

00:22:45.020 That's what,

00:22:45.660 what needs to be

00:22:46.940 defended first

00:22:47.840 before we can get

00:22:49.440 to anything else.

00:22:50.160 But this is where

00:22:55.300 it leads

00:22:55.640 and this is why

00:22:56.400 I emphasize

00:22:57.900 this issue so much

00:22:59.080 because it is a,

00:23:01.660 it is a war

00:23:03.180 over reality

00:23:04.080 itself.

00:23:05.620 That's what's at stake.

00:23:06.840 and when they insist

00:23:11.500 that you start

00:23:12.020 using certain,

00:23:13.260 you know,

00:23:13.680 language that isn't true

00:23:15.060 and those sorts of things,

00:23:16.120 what they're saying is

00:23:17.700 we demand

00:23:19.340 that you

00:23:19.880 abandon

00:23:20.980 reality.

00:23:24.340 That you put

00:23:25.300 feelings over truth.

00:23:26.820 That you put

00:23:27.480 our political agenda,

00:23:28.760 this is the left,

00:23:30.020 you know,

00:23:30.480 you put our political

00:23:31.700 agenda

00:23:32.220 over truth

00:23:33.560 and reality.

00:23:34.140 and for some reason

00:23:38.540 every day

00:23:40.380 more and more people

00:23:41.980 find themselves

00:23:42.960 persuaded somehow

00:23:44.420 by that argument.

00:23:45.580 All right.

00:23:50.520 Let's,

00:23:52.020 I think we'll go

00:23:53.060 right to emails

00:23:53.860 because I had a few

00:23:56.940 other stories

00:23:57.540 but they're all

00:23:58.260 in the same vein

00:24:00.100 of outrageous things

00:24:01.500 that make me angry

00:24:02.220 but I think maybe

00:24:03.200 just this one

00:24:03.980 for the day

00:24:04.420 will be enough

00:24:05.020 so that I don't have

00:24:06.600 an aneurysm

00:24:07.780 on camera

00:24:08.400 which would be

00:24:11.520 interesting

00:24:11.940 for the viewer

00:24:12.780 I admit

00:24:13.660 but I'd prefer,

00:24:15.040 I'd prefer not.

00:24:15.800 So we'll go to emails

00:24:16.580 mattwalshow

00:24:17.300 at gmail.com

00:24:18.320 mattwalshow

00:24:18.880 at gmail.com

00:24:19.780 Before we get

00:24:20.580 there though

00:24:21.500 you know

00:24:22.060 we've been telling you

00:24:22.800 about the pro-life fight

00:24:24.960 and what the Daily Wire

00:24:28.000 has been doing

00:24:28.500 and you know

00:24:29.160 obviously you know

00:24:30.160 that for me

00:24:32.040 on this show

00:24:33.260 the struggle

00:24:35.940 to defend

00:24:36.700 unborn life

00:24:37.600 is the most

00:24:38.280 important thing.

00:24:39.580 60 million children

00:24:40.500 killed since Roe v. Wade

00:24:41.820 and that's why

00:24:42.900 this is the number

00:24:43.800 one civil rights issue

00:24:44.780 of our time

00:24:45.560 the number one

00:24:46.000 human rights issue

00:24:46.820 of our time

00:24:47.340 one of the most

00:24:47.720 important human rights

00:24:48.460 issues of all time

00:24:50.020 but we also know

00:24:51.900 that the left

00:24:52.560 has been

00:24:53.160 has been

00:24:55.440 has been

00:24:56.340 increasingly

00:24:56.900 going off

00:24:58.540 the deep end

00:24:59.200 getting more extreme

00:25:00.500 in their defense

00:25:01.620 of child murder

00:25:02.560 and part of that

00:25:03.720 effort

00:25:04.100 is also to censor

00:25:05.340 and shut down

00:25:06.040 those of us

00:25:07.620 who stand

00:25:08.720 for life

00:25:10.080 and you know

00:25:11.920 to defend

00:25:12.560 those who can't

00:25:13.360 defend themselves

00:25:14.020 and so they've been

00:25:15.120 going after the Daily Wire

00:25:16.140 we know that

00:25:16.880 you know

00:25:17.620 when Ben Shapiro

00:25:18.160 spoke at the

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00:25:19.200 last year

00:25:19.760 our advertisers

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00:25:27.000 but we're not

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00:26:20.420 all right

00:26:22.200 let's go

00:26:22.680 to emails

00:26:23.260 this is from

00:26:24.680 Brandon

00:26:25.120 says

00:26:25.400 dear Matt

00:26:25.920 first I must

00:26:26.780 say you appear

00:26:27.380 to have good

00:26:27.820 taste in most

00:26:28.500 things drink

00:26:29.200 entertainment

00:26:29.700 books and so

00:26:30.360 on but I find

00:26:31.400 it always falls

00:26:31.920 short of what

00:26:32.420 is truly great

00:26:33.140 your affinity

00:26:33.760 for Christopher

00:26:34.320 Nolan and

00:26:34.880 whiskey choices

00:26:35.560 are just a few

00:26:36.180 examples

00:26:36.600 I know this

00:26:37.460 marks me for

00:26:38.240 immediate execution

00:26:39.060 upon your

00:26:39.540 ascension to

00:26:39.980 rightful rule

00:26:40.500 as theocratic

00:26:40.980 overlord but

00:26:41.860 hey you really

00:26:42.320 can't do

00:26:42.680 anything about

00:26:43.060 it right now

00:26:43.540 anyway

00:26:44.480 ever the glutton

00:26:45.560 for second best

00:26:46.280 I took your

00:26:46.840 advice and had

00:26:47.520 to listen to

00:26:47.960 John Prine

00:26:48.960 the first song

00:26:49.780 I listened to

00:26:50.220 was hello in

00:26:50.860 there I found

00:26:51.780 myself blinking

00:26:52.420 back tears

00:26:53.060 perhaps it was

00:26:54.100 the fact that

00:26:54.580 I just found

00:26:55.220 out my first

00:26:55.660 child is going

00:26:56.120 to be a boy

00:26:56.540 or perhaps I

00:26:57.300 need to re-evaluate

00:26:58.120 your status as

00:26:58.880 picker of second

00:26:59.600 best things

00:27:00.160 either way thank

00:27:01.120 you for the

00:27:01.400 suggestion

00:27:01.740 Brandon

00:27:02.860 I am because

00:27:05.700 I'm so merciful

00:27:06.440 I'm going to

00:27:07.240 overlook all of

00:27:08.260 those vicious

00:27:09.440 insults you

00:27:10.140 leveled at me

00:27:10.800 and simply say

00:27:12.880 you're welcome

00:27:13.380 for pointing you

00:27:14.120 in the direction

00:27:14.700 of good music

00:27:15.720 and also for

00:27:17.320 the record

00:27:17.800 because I don't

00:27:18.860 like being

00:27:19.200 slandered

00:27:19.700 I don't know

00:27:21.460 where you get

00:27:21.800 this my affinity

00:27:22.480 for Christopher

00:27:23.060 Nolan thing

00:27:23.720 I think I

00:27:24.860 my position

00:27:26.000 has been that

00:27:26.700 I think Christopher

00:27:27.240 Nolan

00:27:27.540 many of his

00:27:29.020 films are

00:27:29.380 overrated

00:27:29.940 I think he's

00:27:30.900 a good director

00:27:31.600 good filmmaker

00:27:32.480 but you might be

00:27:33.960 confusing me with

00:27:34.660 Ben Shapiro

00:27:35.680 he's a Christopher

00:27:36.300 Nolan guy

00:27:36.800 I'm not really

00:27:37.720 I'm kind of

00:27:38.440 I'm lukewarm

00:27:40.020 on Nolan

00:27:40.460 for the record

00:27:41.340 this is from

00:27:42.920 Mark says

00:27:43.360 hey Matt

00:27:43.700 you posted on

00:27:44.260 Twitter about

00:27:44.740 spanking kids 1.00

00:27:45.560 and I wanted to

00:27:46.560 answer that

00:27:47.340 I posted a

00:27:48.380 Twitter poll

00:27:49.040 for people

00:27:49.620 if they

00:27:50.520 is spanking

00:27:52.580 a child

00:27:53.080 is that an

00:27:53.760 ethical and

00:27:54.560 effective form

00:27:55.220 of punishment

00:27:56.300 it's been

00:27:56.540 interesting

00:27:56.840 about 30,000

00:27:57.760 people have

00:27:58.220 responded to

00:27:58.720 the poll

00:27:59.060 and last I

00:28:00.380 checked it

00:28:00.760 was about

00:28:01.160 I don't know

00:28:01.880 75-25 in

00:28:03.060 favor of

00:28:04.440 spanking kids 1.00

00:28:05.400 back to Mark

00:28:07.900 he says

00:28:08.260 I find that

00:28:09.160 he says

00:28:10.320 I want an

00:28:10.840 answer that

00:28:11.180 I spank 1.00

00:28:11.560 my kids

00:28:11.920 I find that

00:28:12.440 is an

00:28:12.740 extremely

00:28:13.060 effective

00:28:13.460 method

00:28:13.820 of raising

00:28:14.220 my kids

00:28:14.680 well

00:28:15.000 my kids

00:28:16.020 are usually

00:28:16.340 the most

00:28:16.640 well-behaved

00:28:17.220 kids in the

00:28:17.660 room

00:28:17.860 where other

00:28:18.520 parents and

00:28:19.280 people are

00:28:19.700 constantly commenting

00:28:20.420 on how well-behaved

00:28:21.120 my kids are

00:28:21.680 especially my

00:28:22.400 daughter

00:28:22.720 when I stopped

00:28:24.480 using spankings 0.99

00:28:25.720 for a time

00:28:26.440 my kids

00:28:26.840 behavior became

00:28:27.520 noticeably worse

00:28:28.220 so I resumed

00:28:28.880 there were a few

00:28:29.940 times when I

00:28:30.460 overheard her

00:28:30.880 talking to her

00:28:31.420 cousins

00:28:31.800 while they were

00:28:32.460 plotting to do

00:28:33.020 something mischievous

00:28:33.660 and she said

00:28:34.440 I'm not going to

00:28:35.040 do that because

00:28:35.560 I'll get a spanking 1.00

00:28:36.240 I think it's

00:28:37.580 important to do

00:28:38.000 spanking right 0.99

00:28:38.600 you shouldn't do

00:28:39.200 it in anger

00:28:39.680 you need to be

00:28:40.300 consistent

00:28:40.680 and you should

00:28:41.240 talk to your

00:28:41.660 kids about

00:28:42.000 what's going

00:28:42.440 on and why

00:28:42.840 it's happening

00:28:43.280 with my kids

00:28:44.140 I sit them

00:28:44.560 down

00:28:44.820 we talk about

00:28:45.340 the wrong

00:28:45.880 behavior they

00:28:46.420 did

00:28:46.700 the consequence

00:28:47.560 then we do

00:28:49.040 it

00:28:49.200 the spanking 0.76

00:28:49.960 then we talk

00:28:51.060 to them

00:28:51.420 about what

00:28:52.200 happened

00:28:52.520 while comforting

00:28:53.000 them

00:28:53.260 and finish

00:28:53.660 with a prayer

00:28:54.120 for strength

00:28:54.580 going forward

00:28:55.100 I'm not going

00:28:56.200 to say not

00:28:56.780 spanking is the 0.95

00:28:57.380 wrong choice

00:28:57.920 but I think

00:28:58.280 to say it

00:28:58.680 is wrong

00:28:59.080 to do it

00:28:59.560 is inappropriate

00:29:00.120 also when you

00:29:04.160 mention studies

00:29:04.800 the problem

00:29:05.200 with the studies

00:29:05.680 done on this

00:29:06.080 subject is that

00:29:06.720 there is no

00:29:07.120 causal relationship

00:29:08.040 between spanking

00:29:08.800 and negative

00:29:09.260 outcomes

00:29:09.680 the most

00:29:10.360 that can come

00:29:11.600 from it

00:29:12.020 is a correlation

00:29:12.860 Dr. Gershoff

00:29:14.620 says that all

00:29:15.900 of the studies

00:29:16.380 on physical

00:29:16.820 punishment

00:29:17.140 have some

00:29:17.500 shortcomings

00:29:17.980 quote

00:29:19.340 unfortunately

00:29:19.760 all research

00:29:20.360 on parent

00:29:20.780 discipline

00:29:21.120 is going

00:29:21.540 to be

00:29:21.880 correlational

00:29:23.040 because we

00:29:23.540 can't randomly

00:29:24.160 assign kids

00:29:24.840 to parents

00:29:25.300 for an

00:29:25.780 experiment

00:29:26.120 alright Mark

00:29:27.120 yeah it's

00:29:27.400 true that

00:29:27.720 studies on

00:29:28.120 the subject

00:29:28.380 are hard

00:29:28.760 to conduct

00:29:29.480 a real

00:29:30.200 study

00:29:30.620 a real

00:29:30.960 controlled

00:29:31.440 study

00:29:31.800 of something

00:29:32.040 like this

00:29:32.380 would have

00:29:33.180 to involve

00:29:33.700 not necessarily

00:29:35.640 randomly assigning

00:29:36.500 kids to parents

00:29:37.320 but randomly

00:29:38.480 assigning parents

00:29:39.500 to spank their 0.94

00:29:40.220 kids

00:29:40.540 you have to have

00:29:41.380 a group of

00:29:41.800 parents

00:29:42.180 and you say

00:29:43.180 okay this group

00:29:43.860 over here

00:29:44.220 you're going to

00:29:44.620 spank your kids 1.00

00:29:45.220 this group

00:29:45.920 you won't

00:29:46.440 and then

00:29:48.280 we'll check

00:29:48.620 back in 10

00:29:49.160 years and

00:29:49.560 see how

00:29:49.920 it's going

00:29:50.260 but that

00:29:52.780 would be

00:29:53.120 obviously

00:29:53.580 unethical

00:29:54.280 among all

00:29:55.040 the other

00:29:55.340 problems

00:29:55.780 with it

00:29:56.040 so that

00:29:56.740 hasn't been

00:29:57.160 done

00:29:57.300 so it's

00:29:57.520 a hard

00:29:57.800 thing

00:29:57.980 to study

00:29:58.380 and that's

00:29:59.800 why my

00:30:00.220 perspective

00:30:00.620 on it

00:30:00.920 doesn't

00:30:01.240 hinge

00:30:01.520 on studies

00:30:02.100 my point

00:30:03.520 in bringing

00:30:03.900 up the

00:30:04.260 studies

00:30:04.500 was just

00:30:04.880 to address

00:30:05.380 all the

00:30:05.760 people

00:30:06.120 who claim

00:30:07.620 that spanking 0.88

00:30:08.300 leads to

00:30:08.880 more disciplined

00:30:09.480 kids

00:30:10.020 and more

00:30:10.900 well behaved

00:30:11.520 kids

00:30:11.940 and I don't

00:30:12.860 think there's

00:30:13.180 any empirical

00:30:13.700 evidence for

00:30:14.260 that

00:30:14.480 there aren't

00:30:16.200 any studies

00:30:16.620 as you

00:30:16.960 point out

00:30:17.400 I don't

00:30:19.240 think there's

00:30:19.460 any evidence

00:30:19.960 and although

00:30:22.280 studies of

00:30:22.860 this are

00:30:23.120 hard to

00:30:23.500 conduct

00:30:23.880 and aren't

00:30:24.280 conclusive

00:30:24.720 you can

00:30:25.420 still look

00:30:26.440 at various

00:30:26.980 factors

00:30:27.520 and broadly

00:30:28.580 compare

00:30:29.340 spanked 0.67

00:30:30.660 kids

00:30:31.040 to non

00:30:31.760 spanked 0.67

00:30:32.380 and that's

00:30:34.000 been done

00:30:34.680 and I

00:30:37.100 don't think

00:30:37.520 the spanking 0.76

00:30:38.220 leads to

00:30:38.800 better behaved

00:30:39.240 kids

00:30:39.520 theory

00:30:39.840 has been

00:30:40.560 supported

00:30:42.020 by any

00:30:43.260 of the

00:30:43.600 studies

00:30:43.940 or any

00:30:44.760 of the

00:30:44.960 research

00:30:45.320 that I

00:30:45.800 have

00:30:46.180 looked

00:30:46.380 at

00:30:46.580 my

00:30:48.600 issue

00:30:49.000 and I

00:30:49.940 think we've

00:30:50.260 talked about

00:30:50.560 this before

00:30:50.940 but my

00:30:51.280 issue with

00:30:51.660 spanking

00:30:52.000 is multifaceted

00:30:53.380 number one

00:30:54.020 there's a

00:30:54.880 real do as

00:30:55.640 I say

00:30:55.960 not as I

00:30:56.440 do element

00:30:56.980 to this

00:30:57.400 I tell my

00:30:59.200 kids all

00:30:59.800 the time

00:31:00.120 use your

00:31:01.420 words

00:31:01.840 don't hit

00:31:03.000 I'm constantly

00:31:03.900 telling them

00:31:04.320 that

00:31:04.580 and then

00:31:06.120 but I'm

00:31:06.940 going to

00:31:07.120 turn around

00:31:07.480 and hit

00:31:07.760 them

00:31:08.060 I can

00:31:10.680 insist all

00:31:11.560 I want

00:31:11.920 that no

00:31:12.200 it's different

00:31:12.740 it's not

00:31:13.440 the same

00:31:14.040 blah blah 0.97

00:31:14.420 blah

00:31:14.640 but a hit

00:31:15.540 is a hit

00:31:16.120 and I

00:31:18.220 think I

00:31:18.500 undermine

00:31:18.880 my own

00:31:19.300 authority

00:31:19.700 and my

00:31:20.220 message as

00:31:20.680 a parent

00:31:21.000 when I

00:31:21.380 do the

00:31:21.780 thing I'm

00:31:22.100 telling them

00:31:22.420 not to do

00:31:22.840 that doesn't

00:31:23.560 mean that

00:31:23.900 everything I

00:31:24.520 do a kid

00:31:25.460 should be

00:31:25.740 allowed to

00:31:26.120 do

00:31:26.360 but if

00:31:28.960 I'm

00:31:29.380 saying that

00:31:31.200 something sort

00:31:31.900 of in

00:31:32.300 principle is

00:31:33.080 wrong

00:31:33.500 and I

00:31:35.040 have if I

00:31:35.440 have this

00:31:35.720 consistent

00:31:36.260 message of

00:31:36.960 don't do

00:31:37.380 this don't

00:31:37.860 do this

00:31:38.120 do that

00:31:38.480 then I

00:31:39.020 shouldn't be

00:31:39.700 doing it

00:31:40.060 myself

00:31:40.460 I

00:31:42.220 can

00:31:42.680 think of

00:31:43.860 very few

00:31:44.240 exceptions to

00:31:44.800 that

00:31:45.000 another one

00:31:47.460 would be

00:31:47.860 yelling and

00:31:48.560 shouting

00:31:48.860 I tell my

00:31:50.520 kids all the

00:31:50.920 time don't

00:31:51.460 yell don't 0.59

00:31:51.900 shout

00:31:52.180 do I do

00:31:53.900 it myself

00:31:54.260 sometimes

00:31:54.720 yes

00:31:55.260 but I

00:31:56.380 also know

00:31:56.960 that I

00:31:57.840 shouldn't be

00:31:59.000 because I'm

00:31:59.680 the one

00:32:00.520 constantly telling

00:32:01.080 them not to

00:32:01.520 do it

00:32:01.780 if I do

00:32:02.800 it and I

00:32:03.240 tell them

00:32:03.500 not to

00:32:03.840 kids are

00:32:04.620 going to

00:32:04.880 make a

00:32:05.200 connection

00:32:05.520 it does

00:32:06.140 all

00:32:06.480 as I

00:32:06.820 said

00:32:06.940 all we

00:32:07.700 want

00:32:08.000 we can

00:32:08.360 say it's

00:32:08.900 different

00:32:09.240 blah blah 0.97

00:32:09.860 that's

00:32:10.780 not how

00:32:11.320 they

00:32:11.620 see it

00:32:12.400 number

00:32:16.540 two

00:32:16.960 I

00:32:18.020 think

00:32:18.280 spanking

00:32:19.040 may

00:32:19.340 kind of

00:32:19.920 reek

00:32:21.400 of

00:32:21.560 desperation

00:32:22.220 a

00:32:23.100 really

00:32:23.400 in

00:32:23.740 command

00:32:24.100 and

00:32:24.280 in

00:32:24.460 control

00:32:24.740 parent

00:32:25.180 should

00:32:25.940 be

00:32:26.080 able

00:32:26.220 to

00:32:26.340 instill

00:32:26.660 discipline

00:32:27.180 and keep

00:32:27.760 a handle

00:32:28.060 on things

00:32:28.380 without

00:32:28.620 resorting

00:32:29.040 to hitting

00:32:29.320 their

00:32:29.500 children

00:32:29.760 and

00:32:30.820 I

00:32:31.420 can't

00:32:31.660 remember

00:32:31.880 who said

00:32:32.180 if I

00:32:32.340 read

00:32:32.540 somewhere

00:32:32.920 somebody

00:32:33.300 drew

00:32:33.560 this

00:32:33.800 interesting

00:32:34.300 distinction

00:32:34.880 between

00:32:35.200 being

00:32:35.580 a

00:32:35.900 demanding

00:32:36.480 parent

00:32:37.060 and

00:32:37.660 being

00:32:37.900 a

00:32:38.180 commanding

00:32:38.820 parent

00:32:39.220 and the

00:32:41.060 distinction

00:32:41.380 is

00:32:41.780 anybody

00:32:42.740 can

00:32:43.080 demand

00:32:43.500 demand

00:32:44.360 is

00:32:44.720 your

00:32:45.660 insisting

00:32:48.320 and your

00:32:48.640 pleading

00:32:49.060 and maybe

00:32:49.980 even your

00:32:50.580 spanking

00:32:50.960 but you're

00:32:51.360 trying to

00:32:51.720 conjole

00:32:52.240 your kids

00:32:52.980 into doing

00:32:53.380 what you

00:32:53.720 want

00:32:54.040 that's

00:32:55.360 demanding

00:32:55.800 and we

00:32:56.280 all make

00:32:56.620 demands

00:32:56.960 as parents

00:32:57.440 but the

00:32:58.680 goal is

00:32:59.100 to be

00:32:59.400 commanding

00:32:59.980 to be

00:33:00.160 a commanding

00:33:00.740 presence

00:33:01.080 where they

00:33:02.900 listen because

00:33:03.800 they respect

00:33:04.340 you and

00:33:04.740 they listen

00:33:05.720 simply because

00:33:06.340 you're saying

00:33:06.860 it

00:33:07.120 and so

00:33:08.260 you have

00:33:08.520 command

00:33:09.120 over the

00:33:10.240 household

00:33:10.560 now nobody

00:33:11.260 can

00:33:11.820 complete that

00:33:13.680 task perfectly

00:33:14.620 obviously

00:33:15.560 but that's

00:33:16.840 the goal

00:33:17.360 and I

00:33:18.880 think that

00:33:19.420 spanking

00:33:20.060 tends to

00:33:20.900 lend more

00:33:21.340 towards the

00:33:21.900 demanding

00:33:22.460 parenting

00:33:23.360 style

00:33:23.820 than

00:33:24.300 commanding

00:33:25.000 and then

00:33:26.980 three I

00:33:27.360 think there

00:33:27.660 are real

00:33:27.940 ethical

00:33:28.260 concerns

00:33:28.820 with using

00:33:30.460 physical

00:33:30.860 force against

00:33:31.380 a child

00:33:31.740 with trying

00:33:33.040 to extract

00:33:33.740 good behavior

00:33:34.420 through physical

00:33:34.960 force and the

00:33:35.860 fear of

00:33:36.320 physical force

00:33:36.940 I know a lot

00:33:39.760 of people

00:33:40.060 grew up in

00:33:40.520 homes where

00:33:41.380 they feared

00:33:41.780 their dads

00:33:42.340 and they

00:33:43.120 behaved because

00:33:43.760 they were

00:33:44.020 afraid of

00:33:44.380 being smacked

00:33:45.040 and I know

00:33:46.300 a lot of

00:33:46.600 people defend

00:33:47.140 that saying

00:33:47.820 I turned

00:33:48.380 out okay

00:33:48.920 but whether

00:33:50.700 you actually

00:33:51.080 turned out

00:33:51.460 okay or

00:33:51.820 not I

00:33:52.800 still don't

00:33:53.260 think it's

00:33:53.520 the right

00:33:53.760 approach or

00:33:54.680 the right

00:33:54.940 relationship

00:33:55.400 you're supposed

00:33:55.740 to have

00:33:55.940 with your

00:33:56.140 child

00:33:56.500 think about

00:33:57.540 a child

00:33:58.840 it's a

00:33:59.280 very small

00:34:00.320 frail

00:34:01.320 helpless

00:34:02.700 creature

00:34:03.460 we're talking

00:34:04.200 about here

00:34:04.740 and I

00:34:12.420 don't know

00:34:12.780 imposing

00:34:14.000 yourself

00:34:14.500 physically

00:34:14.940 in that

00:34:15.600 way

00:34:15.980 using

00:34:16.660 physical

00:34:17.000 force

00:34:17.460 on a

00:34:18.140 small

00:34:18.700 child

00:34:19.260 as an

00:34:20.100 adult

00:34:20.440 I think

00:34:22.420 there should

00:34:23.040 be other

00:34:23.480 ways

00:34:23.880 and there

00:34:24.200 are other

00:34:24.600 ways

00:34:24.940 you should

00:34:29.860 be able

00:34:30.180 to outsmart

00:34:32.040 your child

00:34:32.500 and I

00:34:33.200 think when

00:34:33.420 you resort

00:34:33.780 to spanking

00:34:34.220 what you're

00:34:34.560 saying is

00:34:35.020 I got

00:34:35.480 nothing else

00:34:36.020 you've

00:34:38.020 beaten me

00:34:38.440 you've

00:34:38.760 beaten me

00:34:39.000 in the

00:34:39.180 psychological

00:34:39.580 game

00:34:39.980 and so

00:34:41.480 now I'm

00:34:41.740 going to

00:34:41.880 beat you

00:34:42.320 and I

00:34:43.820 know

00:34:44.060 okay

00:34:44.840 I know

00:34:46.040 people are

00:34:46.500 going to

00:34:46.680 say there's

00:34:46.920 a difference

00:34:47.240 between beating

00:34:47.760 and spanking 0.98

00:34:48.240 I understand

00:34:50.300 that

00:34:50.720 but

00:34:51.140 it is still

00:34:52.900 you're

00:34:53.460 physically

00:34:53.900 hitting your

00:34:54.320 child

00:34:54.620 right

00:34:54.860 that is

00:34:55.520 what you're

00:34:55.780 doing

00:34:56.040 so I

00:34:59.780 understand

00:35:00.040 the distinction

00:35:00.480 maybe between

00:35:01.120 beating and

00:35:01.640 spanking

00:35:01.960 but sometimes

00:35:02.860 parents who

00:35:03.320 spank their

00:35:03.760 children

00:35:04.060 I think

00:35:04.360 they're in

00:35:04.540 a little

00:35:04.720 bit of

00:35:04.940 denial

00:35:05.280 they even

00:35:06.740 try to draw

00:35:07.200 distinctions

00:35:07.620 between

00:35:07.960 hitting a

00:35:08.620 child

00:35:08.860 and spanking 0.98

00:35:09.340 no you

00:35:09.960 are hitting

00:35:10.400 you are

00:35:10.720 dictionary

00:35:11.380 definition

00:35:11.880 that's

00:35:12.100 hitting

00:35:12.260 you are

00:35:12.540 hitting

00:35:12.800 the child

00:35:13.400 to get

00:35:14.200 the child

00:35:14.580 to behave

00:35:15.020 and when

00:35:16.040 you put

00:35:16.480 it like

00:35:16.820 that

00:35:17.080 it sounds

00:35:17.740 kind of

00:35:19.340 awful

00:35:19.880 and but

00:35:20.620 that's the

00:35:22.200 correct way

00:35:22.740 of putting it

00:35:23.200 because that is

00:35:23.740 what you're

00:35:24.080 doing

00:35:24.400 right

00:35:24.720 and I

00:35:29.200 going back

00:35:30.060 to I

00:35:30.320 think

00:35:30.840 I think

00:35:32.420 there are

00:35:32.980 things we

00:35:35.440 do as

00:35:35.860 parents

00:35:36.300 spanking

00:35:37.120 maybe is

00:35:37.560 one of

00:35:37.780 them

00:35:37.960 where

00:35:39.060 people do

00:35:41.200 it

00:35:41.520 primarily

00:35:42.860 because their

00:35:43.820 parents did

00:35:44.320 it and their

00:35:44.940 parents did

00:35:45.380 it and their

00:35:45.640 parents did

00:35:46.060 it and it's

00:35:46.780 it's a sort

00:35:47.520 of a normal

00:35:48.000 thing for

00:35:48.400 parents to

00:35:48.800 do

00:35:48.960 I think

00:35:50.400 that's the

00:35:50.860 main reason

00:35:51.580 people do

00:35:52.100 it

00:35:52.320 not because

00:35:53.900 they've looked

00:35:54.240 at research

00:35:54.720 that convinced

00:35:55.200 them

00:35:55.440 not because

00:35:57.340 they've really

00:35:58.120 thought about

00:35:58.740 the ethical

00:35:59.100 implications of

00:35:59.860 it

00:36:00.040 I know there are

00:36:02.000 exceptions

00:36:02.260 maybe you have

00:36:02.960 but I think

00:36:03.380 for a lot

00:36:03.820 of parents

00:36:04.240 they do it

00:36:04.880 just because

00:36:05.220 it's what

00:36:05.480 their parents

00:36:05.860 did

00:36:06.100 and I'm

00:36:08.800 not saying

00:36:09.440 that this

00:36:10.240 generation of

00:36:10.920 parents that

00:36:11.520 we're all

00:36:11.920 better than

00:36:12.440 the previous

00:36:12.740 generations

00:36:13.240 but and I

00:36:15.900 know but the

00:36:16.500 problem is a

00:36:16.920 lot of people

00:36:17.300 will say

00:36:17.780 there seem to

00:36:19.520 think that

00:36:20.000 previous

00:36:20.380 generations of

00:36:21.000 parents were

00:36:21.360 so much

00:36:21.720 better than

00:36:22.080 us and so

00:36:22.520 we should

00:36:22.780 just do

00:36:23.060 what they

00:36:23.320 did and

00:36:24.380 there's this

00:36:24.740 idolization that

00:36:25.640 happens of the

00:36:26.340 previous old

00:36:27.020 you know the

00:36:27.680 old-fashioned

00:36:28.240 parenting

00:36:28.720 they got some

00:36:30.660 things right

00:36:31.140 that we get

00:36:32.700 wrong certainly

00:36:33.400 but they also

00:36:34.900 got some

00:36:35.440 things horribly

00:36:36.200 wrong as

00:36:36.820 well they

00:36:37.980 weren't perfect

00:36:38.500 parents and

00:36:39.160 they did have

00:36:39.980 some wrong

00:36:40.500 ideas about

00:36:41.040 parenting we

00:36:42.220 shouldn't idolize

00:36:42.840 that you

00:36:44.660 think even the

00:36:45.120 greatest generation

00:36:45.960 call them the

00:36:46.560 greatest generation

00:36:47.280 well they knew

00:36:48.380 how to parent

00:36:48.880 yeah but their

00:36:50.560 kids turned around

00:36:51.200 and started the

00:36:51.660 sexual revolution

00:36:52.400 so I'm not

00:36:53.840 putting the blame

00:36:54.320 entirely on them

00:36:55.360 but the evidence

00:36:56.860 that they were

00:36:57.460 wonderful awesome

00:36:58.480 parents isn't

00:36:59.940 there something

00:37:01.660 obviously went

00:37:02.500 really wrong with

00:37:04.400 your great parents

00:37:05.360 your so-called

00:37:06.200 great parenting

00:37:06.860 and then you

00:37:08.300 know next thing

00:37:09.040 you know your

00:37:09.300 kids are starting

00:37:09.800 woodstock

00:37:10.340 I think some

00:37:13.040 things went

00:37:13.380 wrong and when

00:37:14.760 you hear these

00:37:15.120 people talk about

00:37:15.820 oh my grandmother

00:37:16.540 used to pull out

00:37:17.200 the belt and

00:37:17.840 you know you

00:37:18.260 know they talk

00:37:20.360 about their

00:37:20.720 fathers or their

00:37:22.320 grandparents using

00:37:23.300 belts and weapons

00:37:24.960 and in anger

00:37:27.760 hitting them and

00:37:28.680 people talk about

00:37:29.580 it now almost

00:37:30.020 fondly with

00:37:30.800 nostalgia but what

00:37:33.540 what you're

00:37:33.680 describing is an

00:37:34.820 adult is an

00:37:36.180 out of control

00:37:37.180 enraged adult

00:37:38.480 using a weapon

00:37:39.820 against you as a

00:37:41.000 child that is

00:37:43.060 physical abuse

00:37:44.120 you are you are

00:37:47.620 you are fondly

00:37:48.680 recalling your own

00:37:49.840 abuse and then

00:37:52.840 claiming you turned

00:37:53.440 out fine I think

00:37:54.120 that's evidence that

00:37:54.720 you didn't turn out

00:37:55.460 fine and you know

00:38:00.720 back in the old

00:38:01.560 days especially

00:38:02.200 with fathers I

00:38:05.120 think there was

00:38:05.800 this wasn't the

00:38:07.040 case across the

00:38:07.700 board but the

00:38:08.220 general attitude

00:38:08.880 was fathers were

00:38:10.560 more emotionally

00:38:12.100 distant they were

00:38:13.720 authority figures

00:38:14.580 but that was kind

00:38:15.280 of it they were

00:38:16.600 more emotionally

00:38:17.220 distant they didn't

00:38:17.860 interact with the

00:38:18.440 kids as much there

00:38:20.500 wasn't as much

00:38:20.960 affection there

00:38:22.560 wasn't as much

00:38:23.040 playing with the

00:38:23.780 kid on their own

00:38:24.320 level as a father

00:38:25.180 and so you sort

00:38:28.720 of feared your

00:38:29.320 father as an

00:38:30.720 authority figure

00:38:31.420 but I think that's

00:38:33.340 wrong I think this

00:38:34.100 is one area where

00:38:35.260 in modern times we

00:38:36.460 have improved

00:38:37.120 we're a father now

00:38:38.240 with my own kids

00:38:38.860 you know I'm very

00:38:40.580 affectionate with my

00:38:41.240 kids I play with my

00:38:42.100 kids I don't want to

00:38:43.880 just be the authority

00:38:45.200 figure in the home

00:38:45.940 I want to be someone

00:38:47.360 a source of love and

00:38:48.840 affection as well I

00:38:50.060 want to be someone

00:38:50.540 that they feel safe

00:38:51.580 around I want to

00:38:52.620 feel to be someone

00:38:53.260 that they can relate

00:38:55.000 to and have a bond

00:38:55.960 with and talk I

00:38:56.800 want to be that

00:38:57.380 too I'm not saying

00:38:59.860 you can't do that

00:39:00.560 if you spank I'm 0.94

00:39:01.220 just saying that

00:39:03.260 there were some

00:39:04.100 that the the

00:39:06.000 philosophy of

00:39:07.920 parenting back in

00:39:08.860 the old days was

00:39:09.740 not entirely

00:39:10.820 correct there were

00:39:13.560 some problems with

00:39:14.440 it and I think

00:39:15.580 that spanking may 1.00

00:39:17.180 have been a part

00:39:17.740 of that so it's

00:39:21.060 just something we

00:39:21.540 should analyze and

00:39:23.640 think about

00:39:24.100 all right let's

00:39:26.780 go this is from

00:39:28.140 Aaron says dear

00:39:29.480 Matt oh one other

00:39:31.260 point about this I

00:39:31.860 wanted to make

00:39:32.300 maybe maybe I can

00:39:34.600 just sum it up here

00:39:35.360 maybe this is all I

00:39:35.900 needed to say rather

00:39:36.620 than rambling for 15

00:39:37.640 minutes most people

00:39:39.560 would say that hitting

00:39:40.520 a dog as punishment

00:39:42.560 is animal abuse

00:39:43.560 certainly hitting a

00:39:45.760 dog with a belt or

00:39:47.120 any kind of a rod

00:39:48.640 anything a spoon

00:39:50.860 whatever most people

00:39:52.780 would say especially

00:39:54.960 if you're using some

00:39:56.740 sort of tool hitting a

00:39:58.500 dog that's abuse if

00:40:00.200 there was a video of

00:40:01.940 a guy and I'm sure

00:40:03.660 there are videos like

00:40:04.300 this online there's a

00:40:05.520 video of a guy with a

00:40:06.980 belt whipping his dog

00:40:08.200 we would all say not

00:40:10.480 only is that animal

00:40:11.060 abuse but that animal

00:40:12.180 should be taken away

00:40:13.000 and that guy should go

00:40:13.940 to jail and yet it's

00:40:18.880 okay to hit a kid

00:40:19.900 are we really going to

00:40:22.280 say that there are

00:40:23.080 disciplinary methods

00:40:24.820 that are unethical to

00:40:25.940 use against animals but

00:40:27.020 are okay against young 1.00

00:40:27.980 children and I do think

00:40:32.700 there's a distinction

00:40:33.240 between say using a

00:40:34.320 belt and just using your

00:40:35.200 hand but there are

00:40:37.280 people that do the belt

00:40:37.940 too and there are people

00:40:40.960 at least who maybe

00:40:41.520 don't use the belt

00:40:42.120 themselves but will

00:40:42.820 excuse it you're

00:40:45.960 whipping a child and

00:40:49.700 again you if anyone

00:40:51.080 did that to a dog they

00:40:52.040 go to jail so I think

00:40:55.660 it goes the other way

00:40:56.180 around that there is

00:40:57.100 there is no ethical

00:40:59.260 form of punishment

00:41:00.000 against a child that I

00:41:00.880 can think of that would

00:41:03.160 be unethical against a

00:41:04.160 dog there are ethical

00:41:05.660 forms of punishments

00:41:06.420 for dogs that would be

00:41:08.500 unethical for children so

00:41:10.500 it does go the other way

00:41:11.360 like crating for

00:41:12.320 instance okay but if

00:41:14.880 you're doing something

00:41:15.460 to your kid that would

00:41:17.580 enrage you if you saw

00:41:18.840 someone do it to a

00:41:19.500 dog that should be a

00:41:21.820 red flag that's all I'll

00:41:23.400 say okay from Aaron

00:41:25.540 says dear Matt yesterday

00:41:26.420 you were criticizing people

00:41:27.440 who brought up Kobe

00:41:28.180 Bryant's rape accusation

00:41:29.300 for 2003 by pointing out

00:41:30.660 that he was never

00:41:31.160 convicted of anything so

00:41:32.400 it's unfair to speak with

00:41:33.280 confidence as if you know

00:41:34.300 for sure he's guilty you

00:41:35.740 even went so far as to

00:41:36.560 say that people were

00:41:37.160 slandering him for talking

00:41:38.200 about it last year you

00:41:39.720 said that Michael Jackson

00:41:40.840 was a child rapist

00:41:41.760 despite the fact that he

00:41:42.660 like Kobe has never been

00:41:43.980 convicted in a court of

00:41:44.820 law you even criticized

00:41:45.940 people who pointed this

00:41:46.860 out by stating that it's

00:41:48.440 too high of a standard to

00:41:49.540 say you won't believe

00:41:50.620 something negative about

00:41:51.500 someone unless they've

00:41:52.560 been convicted of it my

00:41:54.180 question then is which is

00:41:55.500 it why is it okay to call

00:41:56.940 Michael Jackson a rapist

00:41:58.020 but not Kobe when both

00:41:59.560 were never convicted and

00:42:00.880 yes and please don't say

00:42:02.700 we we don't call Kobe a

00:42:04.420 rapist out of respect for

00:42:05.280 the dead Michael Jackson's

00:42:06.540 been dead for 10 years and

00:42:07.460 that didn't stop you from

00:42:08.180 saying what you said

00:42:09.220 about him I think there's

00:42:11.700 a delineation here Aaron

00:42:12.820 fair point but I think

00:42:14.620 there's a delineation

00:42:15.300 first of all my primary

00:42:17.260 criticism of people who

00:42:18.160 brought the Kobe stuff is

00:42:19.440 that they did it literally

00:42:20.160 hours after he died and

00:42:22.380 there's no reason for

00:42:23.060 that the man died by the

00:42:24.860 way died along with his

00:42:25.780 daughter and eight or

00:42:26.840 seven other people and

00:42:29.580 there were there were

00:42:30.520 those who the first thing

00:42:31.960 they did the first thing

00:42:34.000 they said body still

00:42:35.780 smoldering in the wreck and

00:42:38.100 their first move is to

00:42:39.420 call him a rapist that's

00:42:43.660 obviously in bad taste to

00:42:45.920 say the least there's no

00:42:47.440 reason I'm not saying that

00:42:49.080 we can never talk about the

00:42:50.820 negative things of about

00:42:51.980 someone's life after they

00:42:53.240 die obviously that would be

00:42:54.680 absurd but you don't you 1.00

00:42:57.040 don't need to do it in this

00:42:58.160 case five minutes later

00:42:59.920 there's there's no reason

00:43:00.980 for it other than to get

00:43:03.020 attention and so that was my

00:43:04.620 primary beef but also Kobe

00:43:08.520 Bryant was accused one

00:43:10.040 time by one person wasn't

00:43:13.680 convicted the evidence

00:43:15.360 against him was not in my

00:43:16.580 opinion overwhelming I'm not

00:43:18.900 saying he's innocent I don't

00:43:19.900 know but I think based on

00:43:23.600 what we do know it's

00:43:24.880 unreasonable forget about the

00:43:26.980 timing for a minute even it's

00:43:28.580 unreasonable to think or to

00:43:31.340 speak with confidence and say

00:43:32.640 that he's guilty now for

00:43:35.540 Michael Jackson on the other

00:43:36.520 hand you've got a man who

00:43:39.180 was multiply accused of

00:43:40.640 child rape by multiple

00:43:43.100 children telling similar

00:43:45.460 stories there's bundles of

00:43:48.180 evidence against him eyewitness

00:43:50.540 and physical evidence and he

00:43:53.720 admits to having little boys

00:43:55.060 over to his house and even in

00:43:56.380 his bed for sleepovers as I

00:44:00.780 said before and I'll say it

00:44:01.640 again if you think a grown

00:44:03.680 man is inviting little boys

00:44:05.360 into his bed for innocent

00:44:06.780 reasons you are not smart and

00:44:11.360 if you still think it even after

00:44:13.780 those little boys tell you they

00:44:15.460 were raped you're a lot worse

00:44:18.420 than not smart and I would

00:44:22.240 contend there is not a single

00:44:23.760 person on earth who would insist on

00:44:27.000 Michael Jackson's innocence given

00:44:28.720 the evidence against him given

00:44:30.220 his own admission to having

00:44:31.600 sleepover parties with with with

00:44:33.440 with little boys we invited into

00:44:35.340 his bed given all the

00:44:37.340 accusations nobody on earth would

00:44:39.360 be insisting on his innocence if

00:44:40.980 they didn't if if if he wasn't a

00:44:42.740 famous pop star if he was just

00:44:45.440 Michael Mr. Michael Jackson down

00:44:47.260 the street works as a plumber or

00:44:49.120 works at the DMV or something and

00:44:50.860 all of these facts lined up against

00:44:52.480 him and you found out that he was

00:44:54.200 that he was having little boys from

00:44:55.440 the neighborhood over to his house

00:44:56.400 for sleepovers and then oh by the

00:44:59.720 way a few of them have even said

00:45:01.220 that they were raped there is no way

00:45:04.260 in hell you would be insisting that

00:45:06.320 he's innocent no way not one single

00:45:08.960 person would the only reason they're

00:45:11.320 doing with Michael Jackson is because

00:45:12.640 they like the way he dances and

00:45:14.020 sings and I find that just I find that

00:45:20.840 attitude to be really beneath with

00:45:22.700 contempt that you would give someone

00:45:28.760 the benefit of the doubt because you

00:45:31.620 like their songs that's not the case

00:45:36.420 with Kobe with Kobe Bryant I'm you know

00:45:38.100 I was never I was never a big Kobe

00:45:40.820 fan I wasn't I didn't dislike him I

00:45:43.920 just I didn't have much of an opinion

00:45:45.180 about it one way or another and so with

00:45:48.520 his rape case I'm not looking at it

00:45:50.120 like oh no you know my dear Kobe never

00:45:52.300 could have done that because I like

00:45:54.240 the way he plays basketball that's not

00:45:55.560 my approach I I looked at the case

00:45:57.700 back when it first was was in the news

00:46:00.380 back in 2003 or whenever it was I've

00:46:02.720 looked at it again this week and I just

00:46:06.260 think it's the only case against him he

00:46:09.100 wasn't convicted and there's there are

00:46:12.480 there are a lot of details in that case

00:46:14.740 that cast doubt such as just one of the

00:46:18.180 details by the way is that from from

00:46:21.400 what I read that when they did the you

00:46:25.080 know the rape kit on the on the accuser

00:46:27.360 they found other men's DNA as well not

00:46:31.200 just Kobe Bryant's so that alone right

00:46:35.220 there is is enough for reasonable doubt

00:46:37.380 all right but thank you for the the email

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00:47:31.300 hey everyone it's Andrew Klavan host of the

00:47:33.760 Andrew Klavan show but we began this week

00:47:36.100 with a simple question how dumb does the

00:47:38.160 left think we are it's a pretty easy

00:47:40.040 question to answer they think we're

00:47:41.480 really dumb and racist too but here's a

00:47:43.780 much more difficult question a real

00:47:45.720 mystery why does the left think they're

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The Matt Walsh Show - January 30, 2020

Ep. 416 - Transgender Child Molester Awarded Get Out Of Jail Free Card

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