The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 422 - The Barbaric Extremism Of The Democratic Party

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the show, friends, neighbors, kinsmen. I hope you've had a satisfying Friday so far. We

00:00:06.260 had a little scare this morning, tornado warning in our neck of the woods, another consequence of

00:00:11.840 climate change, no doubt. So I went into the basement and I was with my wife and kids.

00:00:17.340 And if you think that I had to comfort my terrified children about the tornado,

00:00:22.780 you don't know my children. They were absolutely ecstatic about the entire thing.

00:00:27.580 They apparently seemed to think that the tornado would suck us up and bring us to Oz to meet the

00:00:33.860 munchkins. And I didn't have the heart to tell them that if it hits our house, we ain't going to Oz,

00:00:39.360 to put it mildly. But I was brought back in my mind to the time when I was about their age and we had

00:00:45.680 flooding on our street where we lived. And I couldn't understand why my parents were so distressed

00:00:52.020 about it because I kept thinking, well, a flood, you know, it's going to, the flood will come into

00:00:55.560 our house. It'll turn our whole house into a pool. There'll be like a water slide down the steps.

00:01:00.040 It's going to be so exciting. And I just couldn't, I didn't understand their lack of enthusiasm.

00:01:05.260 But now, now I think I, now I think I get it. All right. Well, Pete Buttigieg

00:01:10.760 may or may not have won Iowa. The AP announced yesterday that they can't announce a winner because

00:01:18.260 they don't know. The whole process is so messed up. It's too close to call and screw it.

00:01:22.720 Basically, to paraphrase, that was the, what they said. Either way, the significance of Iowa is less

00:01:28.300 about the delegates and more about the momentum and the media coverage heading into the rest of

00:01:34.340 the primaries, New Hampshire and so on. So whether Buttigieg won or not, he's been robbed of that

00:01:41.640 benefit, which I think is great. It could not have happened to a more deserving person. Buttigieg is,

00:01:46.340 I think, perhaps the most formidable politician left in the field, simply because he's not a communist

00:01:54.000 or he's not an out and out communist. He's not known as a communist. And he's also not 987 years old.

00:02:00.800 And so that those two factors alone, I think, make him the most formidable. But that's not a compliment,

00:02:07.540 really. Certainly not a compliment of his character. Because character wise, he may well be the worst of the

00:02:14.680 bunch. And I want to show you another example of that. Buttigieg yesterday was given the opportunity

00:02:20.880 to come out at least against infanticide. That is, the killing of fully developed infants outside of

00:02:29.620 the womb. He was given the opportunity to at least say he's against that. And he declined.

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00:04:20.240 Okay. So here's Meghan McCain with Pete Buttigieg. And Meghan here, first of all,

00:04:24.480 subjects Buttigieg to exactly the line of questioning that every Democrat should be subjected to.

00:04:33.100 So I want you to watch this. Pay attention to Buttigieg's answers or non-answers, but also

00:04:39.160 to Meghan showing exactly the sort of questions that these people ought to be asked and so rarely are.

00:04:45.900 So here it is. Watch this.

00:04:46.920 If this is a late term situation, then by definition, it's one where a woman was expecting to carry the 0.57

00:04:53.860 pregnancy to term. Then she gets the most perhaps devastating news of her life. We're talking about

00:04:59.360 families that may have picked out a name, maybe assembling a crib, and they learn something

00:05:04.780 excruciating and are faced with this terrible choice. And I don't know what to tell them morally

00:05:12.000 about what they should do. I just know that I trust her and her decision medically or morally

00:05:18.100 isn't going to be any better because the government is commanding her to do it in a certain way. 1.00

00:05:21.660 I respect it. I respect what you're saying because you didn't back down from it. This is going to hurt

00:05:28.120 you in the middle of the country with the Republicans you're trying to win over. People like me, this is

00:05:31.260 a hard line. And quite frankly, that question, that answer is just pretty, it's just as radical as I

00:05:36.000 thought it was. Sorry. Now it was, it was no doubt made more difficult by the clapping seals in the

00:05:41.860 audience, but the only additional thing I would have liked to hear Meghan McCain see her do, it really

00:05:49.040 is bared down on a firm hypothetical. So a baby, eight months gestation, physically healthy, all of its

00:05:58.100 limbs and everything intact, no health problems. Should it be legal to kill that person or not?

00:06:04.160 That's, that's, I would love to see the question phrased exactly like that to these people.

00:06:12.640 And so the question was not quite as pointed as that, but it doesn't matter because we know his

00:06:17.700 answer based on what he said there. He did give an answer to that question effectively. He's not

00:06:24.240 willing to entertain any limits on abortion whatsoever of any kind. He was given the chance to draw

00:06:30.360 some kind of line, any line, draw a line, at least disqualifying partial birth abortion and

00:06:37.780 infanticide. And he wouldn't do that. Partial birth abortion, which now with infanticide said, oh,

00:06:44.980 well, no one, that, that, that, no one does that. That's not happening. Okay. Well, if nobody does it

00:06:49.180 and it's not happening, it should be really easy for you to say it shouldn't happen. It should be very,

00:06:53.360 if it's an, if it's a non-existent thing, should be very easy to say I'm against it, right? Partial

00:07:00.900 birth abortion, which by the way, involves the killing of fully developed infant humans as they 0.86

00:07:07.760 are emerging from the birth canal. So this is infanticide. These are infants that are partially

00:07:15.660 out of the birth canal already. They are in the process of being born and they're killed with an

00:07:21.820 incision in the back of the skull. And then a tube is inserted into that incision and their brains are

00:07:26.440 sucked out of their heads while they're still alive. That's, that's how it works. And, and that

00:07:31.720 quote procedure has been done in this country thousands of times, actually. Um, that's what

00:07:38.900 she was asking about. And Buttigieg wouldn't even come out against that. Now, by the way, what, as we

00:07:45.160 talked about yesterday, the, this dodge of, well, no woman would choose this unless there's a serious

00:07:50.900 medical problem, that dodge is nonsense. It's not true. It's a lie. It's, it, it, it, you can look up

00:07:57.320 the figures yourself, look up the figures in pro-abortion sources, if you want. Um, you know, go to the

00:08:06.160 Guttmacher Institute or look at pro-abortion sources and, and, and see what, how they describe it.

00:08:12.720 Um, even there you'll find that with late term abortions and late in very late term abortions

00:08:21.560 as well, they can happen for reasons that have nothing at all to do with dire medical conditions.

00:08:27.720 That's a fact. And which is why, uh, what you'll find when, when, when the pro-abortion side talks

00:08:38.320 about abortions, uh, for health reasons or abortions for the health of the mother, when they talk about

00:08:46.840 that for the health of the mother, and then you really get into defining what they mean by that.

00:08:53.280 What do you mean by health? Well, what they mean is physical health. Yes. Which again, uh, there has

00:09:03.000 never been and could never be an abortion conducted in order to protect the physical health of the

00:09:08.340 mother. So that doesn't, that's, that's a, that's a non-existent category, but physical health, but

00:09:12.840 they also mean emotional health, um, psychological health, spiritual health, financial health. All of

00:09:21.520 that is, is put into it. And a great many of these late term abortions, 5,000 every single year

00:09:28.180 are done for, not for physical health reasons, but financial health, emotional health, that sort

00:09:35.820 of thing. Okay. But putting that aside, whatever the reason for this quote procedure, it is obviously

00:09:41.400 always, and in every case immoral to suck the brains out of an infant's head. That's not something I

00:09:48.420 should have to say, but I do. There is no scenario that could ever make that anything less than one of

00:09:57.180 the most barbaric things you could ever do. I mean, if you want to talk about the most barbaric and

00:10:04.880 wicked things a single human can do to another single human, I think this is at the very, very

00:10:14.600 close to the top of that list. If not at the very top, we are now in the realm morally of, of things

00:10:21.580 like child rape and cannibalism. Okay. We we've now, we've now made it up there, or I should say down

00:10:28.240 there to that level, the worst things imaginable. You have to put partial birth abortion into that

00:10:34.680 category. And even this Buddha judge won't condemn. He's a coward, a liar, a fraud, a sad, pathetic 0.94

00:10:42.400 little man. That's what he is. Uh, I, I know he likes to present himself like some sort of war hero,

00:10:50.420 but he is a coward. If you won't come out and at least say, no, we should not be stabbing infants

00:10:59.260 in the skull and de-braining them while they're still alive. If you cannot even say that, if you're

00:11:04.160 not willing to even say that, then you are the lowest, most contemptible sort of person.

00:11:10.500 And, uh, that's Buddha, not just him. That's all the rest of them too in the democratic field,

00:11:15.340 because you would get the same answer from all the rest of them. My point here though, is

00:11:20.680 if, if he has the reputation of being one of the more reasonable ones or one of the more moderate ones,

00:11:26.860 or one of the, at least he's got good character or something. No, no. Okay. Let's play some more

00:11:35.700 audio for you. This is AOC at some sort of hearing yesterday, being very literal as she tends to be.

00:11:44.580 Ms. Hutchinson, I also want to thank you about bringing up the poverty draft and this idea of

00:11:49.420 a bootstrap. You know, this idea and this metaphor of a bootstrap started off as a joke

00:11:53.960 because it's a physical impossibility to lift yourself up by a bootstrap, by your shoelaces.

00:12:01.760 It's physically impossible. The whole thing is a joke. Shoot for the stars. That's scientifically

00:12:09.100 impossible. We don't have the technology. The nearest star is four light years away. That's 24

00:12:14.640 trillion miles. We'd never make it there in time. This is, this whole thing is a joke,

00:12:19.040 which actually I have to admit when I see those inspirational posters, uh, like every,

00:12:26.320 every guidance counselor's office at every school in America has one that says shoot for the moon.

00:12:31.380 Even if you miss, you'll be among the stars. That one does kind of annoy me because I understand that

00:12:36.560 it's a metaphor, but really if you shoot for the moon and miss, you're just going to be floating in

00:12:41.680 the vacuum of space. Uh, you're not going to be anywhere near the closest star. The closest star would

00:12:46.580 be the sun, which is millions and millions of miles away. And if we're talking about interstellar

00:12:50.780 travel, then you're trillions and trillions of miles away from the nearest star. So if you shoot

00:12:55.420 for the moon, you, you damn well better hit it. Otherwise you're going to die in the black abyss of

00:13:00.560 space. But anyway, um, that is, that is being overly literal, which is what AOC seems to be doing

00:13:06.660 here. It doesn't understand the concept of metaphors. And that's the, that's what that college

00:13:11.960 education, I suppose, uh, gets you. The greater point though, is the sort of anti inspirational

00:13:20.480 message from AOC and her ilk. She's saying, uh, not just that pulling yourself up by the bootstraps

00:13:26.840 is physically impossible, which she's right about, but that's not really the point. She's also saying

00:13:30.720 that a person trying to get ahead in life on their own without the government may as well be defying the

00:13:36.580 laws of physics because that's how impossible it is. But think about who this is coming from.

00:13:42.340 This is coming from a woman who is today, one of the most influential and powerful members of 0.81

00:13:47.300 Congress, God help us. And yet just a few years ago was a bartender. She went from bartender to 0.89

00:13:54.780 Congresswoman. Okay. She, she actually is an example of pulling yourself up by the bootstraps 1.00

00:14:00.320 and credit to her for that. I respect that aspect of her story. Now, uh, she, she's college educated.

00:14:08.780 She's had a lot of privileges in life. It seems like, but, um, even so to go from being a bartender

00:14:15.260 to being in Congress, that's quite an achievement. And I give her credit for that, but it's, it's hard

00:14:22.860 for me to give her credit for that because then she gets there to this successful point and she turns

00:14:28.680 around and tells other people they can't do it. And that's what I hate about these, these, these

00:14:35.380 socialists, the ones on the national stage because they're all successful. They've made something of

00:14:42.680 themselves to their credit. They've used the free market system. They've used our freedoms to their

00:14:49.360 advantage. Fine. Good for them. And yet now they turn around and say to everybody else, you can't do it.

00:14:55.220 It's impossible. Rather than using themselves as an example and saying, uh, no, you can do it.

00:15:04.600 This is, this is, this is very possible to do.

00:15:09.860 Doesn't mean that you're not going to need help. Yes. Every successful person has had some kind of

00:15:15.200 help, but we still live in a country where you are uniquely able, where someone is, where there is

00:15:23.320 the, the unique ability to go from the very bottom to the very top.

00:15:29.500 It's not true for everybody. We talked about this a couple of weeks ago

00:15:32.700 that we don't want to overplay that hand and act like everybody who's at the bottom could easily go

00:15:41.200 up to the top. It's not easy. Number one. And, and, and there can be circumstances that make it

00:15:45.100 basically impossible. So that is, so that's true. But to take this position, which AOC has taken

00:15:55.580 and the other socialists, that climbing the ladder is impossible in principle. That's some sort of

00:16:03.160 myth, even while they themselves have done it is, uh, is pretty shameful. Okay. Speaking of college

00:16:12.960 educations, David Hogg, you remember him is in Harvard now, and it's been really quite fascinating

00:16:20.080 to watch this kid get brainwashed in real time. Disturbing, also fascinating. Now he, he went into

00:16:29.120 college, a liberal, clearly, but we can see the university system taking his mind, his susceptible

00:16:35.960 mind and molding it and shaping it and deforming it and misshaping it. We could see this happening.

00:16:41.580 So for example, he tweeted a couple of days ago, uh, this tweet that went kind of viral. It says,

00:16:47.820 a majority of the people that live in the United States are the descendants of illegal colonizers

00:16:51.860 that committed a mass genocide. Now this is of course exactly the kind of thing that kids learn in

00:16:58.700 college today. And I saw someone on Twitter say that this is exactly what parents worry that when

00:17:06.860 their kids come home from college, they're going to come home saying stuff like this. This is, this is

00:17:10.440 basically every parent's nightmare that their kids are going to go to college and come back saying

00:17:13.980 crap like this. And, uh, and that's what's happened with, with him. So, but it is what kids learn in

00:17:22.480 college. It's exactly what you expect a Harvard student to start saying in his first year. And so

00:17:28.080 Hogg has fulfilled that stereotype rather beautifully. The problem though, of course, is that it's nonsense.

00:17:33.260 First of all, European settlers may have been colonizers. They may have been unwelcome colonizers.

00:17:41.900 They may have been disliked colonizers. Uh, you could say that their colonization was unfortunate

00:17:47.720 if you want, you could describe it any of those ways. That's if that's your opinion,

00:17:51.900 but what you can't say is that it was illegal. That would be an incorrect statement. That's not

00:17:59.560 just an opinion. That's incorrect. They weren't, the word illegal means something. They weren't

00:18:04.820 illegal because the United States at the time was not a country. So this goes for all the people that

00:18:10.240 say our ancestors were, were illegal immigrants. Everybody is, is, is any, any, uh, white American is

00:18:18.100 the, is the descendant of illegal immigrants. That's not true. That's, that's simply not true.

00:18:27.360 America at the time, North America was a land mass, very sparsely populated by a collection of

00:18:35.760 disconnected tribes, very sparsely populated. You think right now in the United States, we've got

00:18:42.400 330 million people, not counting the illegals, the actual illegals. So we've got 330 million,

00:18:49.460 give or take, uh, in the United States back before this, this land was settled by the Europeans.

00:18:57.700 There were across the entire North American continent. There were a few million

00:19:02.060 spread out all across those millions of square miles. Okay. Um, so that's what it was to call them

00:19:10.640 illegal makes no sense. It's inaccurate in illegal implies that there were laws being broken and laws

00:19:17.820 being broken require some sort of central government of some kind making those laws, which there wasn't.

00:19:25.080 Now, if, if you're coming to the United States now, uh, without going through our standard immigration

00:19:31.000 process, you're coming in illegally because you're breaking our laws that are in place. If you do that

00:19:35.420 in Mexico, you're going into Mexico illegally because that they, they have laws in place. China,

00:19:40.640 same thing. All of these established countries, if you go into those countries and settle there

00:19:45.140 without going through the established process, you're breaking their laws. Here's my question.

00:19:52.660 The colonizers that came here, the European settlers, what law were they breaking? That's all

00:19:59.360 you have to answer. If you say what they were, they were illegal immigrants. Okay. What law were they

00:20:03.760 breaking? Show me the law, pull out whatever law book was in, was in, and, and, and, and show,

00:20:09.060 show me the chapter and verse. I could do that with our immigration laws today.

00:20:17.000 This, um, the entire North American landmass was not owned collectively by these tribes. And in fact,

00:20:23.780 the, the idea that as the world population grows and technology develops that what the entire North

00:20:32.940 American continent, we would just leave alone, nobody would come here, leave it to the two or 1.00

00:20:37.060 three million people living there. No one else gets to come. Doesn't make any sense. And the second

00:20:45.840 point of course, is that, uh, when you say a majority of the people of the United States are descendants

00:20:50.060 of illegal colonizers, committed mass genocide, and so on, uh, leaving aside the fact that the word

00:20:56.400 illegal doesn't make any sense here, the general sentiment that he's trying to express would apply

00:21:02.220 to pretty much everybody on earth, pretty much everybody in the entire world.

00:21:09.300 And, and, and this is something that I'm always trying to explain,

00:21:12.760 especially to those on the left who don't seem to understand it,

00:21:16.080 that the Europeans were not unique in colonizing. They were not unique in building empires.

00:21:23.280 They were not unique in slavery, not by a long shot. Um, none of that was unique. Empires across

00:21:32.800 the world function that way. And anywhere in the world where you go, where there are lines drawn,

00:21:42.020 this country, that country, there's a line, that line has been fought over and not, we're not talking

00:21:48.120 pillow fights. So all of the settled land pretty much across the entire world.

00:21:54.840 The people living there now, if you were to trace their lineage back, you're going to find that they

00:21:59.100 probably quote, stole it from somebody. At some point, you're the descendant of someone who moved

00:22:05.720 into an area and killed people and took over because that's the way the world was settled everywhere, 0.97

00:22:11.020 not just here. Um, now the, the responses you often hear to that. Number one, the first response is

00:22:20.220 that might be true, but it's not might be, it is true. That might be true, but that doesn't,

00:22:26.500 that's no excuse for the Europeans. Yeah, it's not an excuse, but that does mean that if we're having 0.87

00:22:32.340 conversations about ancestral sins, if we're having conversations about the terrible things that

00:22:38.000 people did hundreds of years ago, the conversation shouldn't solely and only be, be focused on white

00:22:44.860 Europeans. That's what it means. Yeah, we can have that conversation. We could say wherever they did

00:22:50.240 commit genocide, that was a terrible thing. Wherever they did steal land, it was bad. They shouldn't have

00:22:54.540 done that. Fine. I agreed. Once we've established that, and I think we have established it. Can we talk

00:23:01.360 about the rest of the world? It's like if we're discussing slavery, uh, slavery in North America

00:23:08.820 was a horrible, disgraceful evil, of course. And I think we've, I think, I think we've pretty well

00:23:17.060 established that. I think everyone agrees. I I've never met anybody who would disagree with that.

00:23:22.800 And if I did meet them, I would assume that they're psychotic.

00:23:25.200 But if we're, if we're going to have slavery, can we at some point discuss the fact that it existed

00:23:32.040 everywhere else on the globe? I mean, if we're going to talk about the history of slavery, why would it,

00:23:37.400 why would that discussion only be focused on this part of the world where we live now

00:23:42.080 and only go back a few hundred years?

00:23:48.600 There is a larger picture here, a larger context that we could look at and discuss.

00:23:55.200 I think that's a reasonable thing for someone to point out.

00:23:59.180 So that's the first dodge. The second dodge is to say,

00:24:02.440 yes, of course, there was empire building across the world. Of course, there was slavery across the

00:24:08.220 world, but the Europeans were unique in their, in the way that they industrialized it, especially

00:24:14.080 slavery, and in the way that they traveled across the entire world to far-reaching corners of the

00:24:19.400 world and colonized even there. Other, other, uh, empires didn't do that. That's sort of basically

00:24:25.100 true. But what do you think, what, what stopped say Genghis Khan from conquering more land than he

00:24:31.940 did? Was it ethical qualms? Did he say, I don't want to go any further than this? This, this is

00:24:37.220 enough guys. I don't want to go. And now, no, it's, it was logistical. Uh, it was a matter of logistics.

00:24:44.920 It's just, they weren't, he wasn't capable of going further than he did. It wasn't ethical qualms.

00:24:52.140 So if other empires in history didn't, didn't, um, colonize to the extent that the Europeans did,

00:24:57.260 it's not because they, it's not because they, they, they, they figured, Hey, let's, let's, let's

00:25:01.760 calm down, fellas. This, this is enough. It wasn't ethics that stopped them. It's just, it was,

00:25:08.400 it was the force of history that stopped them. It was a lack of ability that stopped. It was a lack of

00:25:12.640 technology that stopped them. The Aztecs, uh, enslaving all of their neighboring tribes, 1.00

00:25:20.220 harvesting their neighboring tribes for, for human sacrifices, coming in and taking women and 1.00

00:25:26.300 children, ripping their hearts out, feasting on their limbs, rolling their delimbed bodies down the 0.96

00:25:32.280 temple, down the steps of the temple in these, in these barbaric satanic ceremonies. Okay. Yes,

00:25:41.580 they did that, but the Aztecs weren't getting in ships and going up and, and, and trying to invade

00:25:48.220 Europe or Africa. Why not? Is it, is it, is it, is it because they could have, but they decided not

00:25:55.240 to because they figured that'd be taking it too far? No, it's just because they didn't have the

00:25:59.000 interest. They didn't have the ability. They didn't have the technology. They didn't have the,

00:26:03.800 the drive to do that. They didn't have the, really the interest in going and discovering other

00:26:09.520 far-reaching lands. That's what stopped them. The main focus for the Aztecs was, uh, they felt

00:26:19.700 they had to continue to offer blood sacrifices to their gods. And that was the entire focus of their,

00:26:27.320 of their civilization. You had, you had the, right in the middle of the Aztec capital, you had the,

00:26:31.540 the temple there, and this was literally the focus. And so from their perspective, you know,

00:26:37.340 what, why would they get in ships and go somewhere else? It's just, this is a matter of efficiency.

00:26:41.640 We're going to, we just need to keep, we need to keep the gods satiated with more blood, more blood,

00:26:46.640 more blood, more blood to, to, to spend time and, and treasure, um, going off, uh, on across an unknown

00:26:55.540 sea to an unknown destination. There's no reason to do that. That would actually have interfered with

00:27:02.180 their ability to continue killing and ripping out hearts and, and, and feeding those sacrifices to

00:27:06.660 their, to their imaginary gods. Um, so that's what stopped them. And you find similar situations in

00:27:14.400 other empires across the world. So, uh, I, I feel like if we're going to have these conversations

00:27:21.200 about the history of slavery and the history of empire building,

00:27:25.220 at some point, maybe perhaps, especially in university systems, maybe we extend our,

00:27:34.160 we, we widen the lens a little bit and realize that there's a whole, that there, that the world

00:27:39.540 does not begin and end with the United States. There's a whole great, greater picture out there

00:27:44.860 that we could look at. All right, let's go to emails, mattwalshow at gmail.com, mattwalshow

00:27:51.760 at gmail.com. This is from Aaron says, huge fan of the show. Love the way you, you think,

00:27:58.500 even if we don't always agree, logic is important and it seems less and less people use it. And it's

00:28:03.580 what makes your podcast so compelling. That being said, I'm interested in your thoughts on the

00:28:08.240 simulation argument. It's based only, it's based on only three paths humanity can take. One,

00:28:14.360 humanity is never able to create a simulation. Two, humanity has the ability to create the simulation,

00:28:19.100 but for some reason decides against it. Three, humanity creates a simulation. And if three is

00:28:23.400 true, the probability is that we are in a simulation. Curious on your thoughts. If you

00:28:28.320 don't know a lot about the argument, you can listen to Joe Rogan and Nick Bostrom discuss it

00:28:31.860 on episode 1350. But I warn you, part of this podcast is painful because Rogan doesn't grasp it.

00:28:38.720 Thanks for your podcast. Well, I'm not sure that I grasp it either. So when you say simulation,

00:28:44.020 you mean that we're all living in the matrix essentially, or that we're in a Sims game and

00:28:48.420 we're the Sims? I'm familiar with that hypothetical or thought experiment. I'm not familiar with the

00:28:54.540 formal argument that you've laid out there. So I'd have to look into it, I guess. Here are my general

00:28:59.160 thoughts. First of all, it's so important to distinguish, and this is a principle that I think

00:29:05.880 applies far beyond this particular discussion. It is so important to distinguish between possibility

00:29:11.940 and probability. And people rarely do this in these kinds of discussions. Is it possible

00:29:20.340 that we're living in a virtual world and we are all virtual girls, to paraphrase Madonna? Yes,

00:29:26.660 it's possible. I must say it's possible because it's not logically impossible. And anything that

00:29:32.460 isn't logically impossible is therefore logically possible. It's possible that Superman exists.

00:29:36.660 It's possible that there are large pink dragons living on the moon. It's possible that

00:29:41.900 a real Nigerian prince will actually email me tomorrow and really offer me $20 million.

00:29:47.620 These things are possible. But is there any compelling reason to think that they're actually

00:29:53.080 true? Well, no. It's definitely possible that the pink dragons live on the moon. Nobody can say

00:30:01.780 that's impossible. Is there any reason to think they do? No. There's no evidence for it.

00:30:08.060 So this is just a possibility that I've conjured in my imagination. And so it may be possible,

00:30:15.920 but it's not remotely probable or plausible. Now, the simulation idea, yes, it's possible.

00:30:21.840 No, it's not remotely probable. And there's no evidence for it. There's no indications pointing

00:30:26.700 to it. There's no particular reason to believe that it's actually true. And I certainly don't buy the

00:30:31.740 premise that human technology is moving inexorably towards this eventuality of building a simulation.

00:30:40.020 I don't see why it has to go in that direction or have that result. And even if it is, and there is

00:30:45.860 a simulation built, or there will be, I don't see how the simulated beings would be conscious.

00:30:52.820 How could you simulate a person, simulate them, which means that there's no actual person. So how

00:30:59.140 could you simulate a person? And then that simulated non-entity begins to experience its own existence

00:31:05.140 in some way. I mean, you could sooner convince me that we're all very lifelike robots, but with a

00:31:14.400 simulation, it means that we're not flesh and blood at all, right? So then how would we be conscious?

00:31:17.960 And if that's possible, then how do we know that video game characters today aren't conscious?

00:31:24.560 Maybe Mario's been conscious this whole time. Who knows? But that makes no sense, really,

00:31:29.780 because simulated beings are not organic. They don't have brains. They don't have bodies. They

00:31:34.220 don't have any of the things that seem to be necessary conditions for consciousness, at least in

00:31:38.060 this world. So that's why I wouldn't be persuaded. Although, I mean, I love the idea, sort of, that maybe

00:31:44.120 I'm Neo. So I kind of am entertained by that, but I can't say that I'm convinced. This is from Sean

00:31:50.640 says, Hi, Matt. Somebody yesterday accused you of trying to appease people and appeal to the masses,

00:31:55.120 but I think that's the least accurate possible way to describe you. It seems like you sometimes go out

00:32:01.180 of your way to piss off your own fans. You're basically the least pandering media person I've

00:32:05.760 ever seen. It's almost like you don't want to be liked. I've noticed that when you get on a subject

00:32:12.160 that's turning your listeners against you, you'll then stay on it for days just to prove a point.

00:32:17.620 It's weird, but I respect it. Keep doing you. I appreciate that, Sean, I think, if that was a

00:32:24.240 compliment. Though, despite common perception, I actually don't try. I don't try to piss people off

00:32:29.700 for the sake of it, and I don't really enjoy being disliked. I don't think anybody does. I like being liked.

00:32:35.080 Who doesn't? But I can't help but lapse back into being myself, I guess, and that's where I run into

00:32:42.000 trouble. Let's see. Okay, here's one I wanted to read. This is from Anonymous. It says, Hi, Matt.

00:32:52.720 Subject line, by the way, is, can lying ever be ethical? I know that lying is wrong and sinful,

00:32:58.200 especially when you do it to the ones you love, but is it ever ethical? I was married to a physically

00:33:02.780 and emotionally abusive man for, I'm not going to say the number of years to protect anonymity here.

00:33:08.360 One day, a few years ago, after he slapped me across the face, I decided I had had enough. I

00:33:14.420 left him that same day and never spoke with him again, except in email format over the divorce

00:33:18.940 dealings. I didn't find out until later that I was pregnant with his child. I knew that I had to

00:33:24.040 protect my baby at all costs. I knew all too well that he was, what he was capable of, and the bruises

00:33:29.180 on my body were still purple. The mere thought of him laying a hand on my baby enraged me. I vowed

00:33:34.200 never to tell him so not to risk my child's safety and well-being. I immediately moved back to my

00:33:38.640 home state to be close to my family. I was very careful about social media because I didn't want

00:33:42.260 anything getting back to him. Outside of my immediate family, mom, dad, and sisters, I told everyone that

00:33:48.540 I was artificially inseminated. My family agreed that it would be best to tell people that story so that

00:33:53.040 the chances of him finding out could be as minimal as possible. Nine months later, I had my beautiful

00:33:57.760 baby girl. She's the light of my life and the greatest blessing God has ever given me. My sweet

00:34:02.800 little girl is six now and has never known the truth about her conception. When she was three

00:34:08.640 years old, my now husband entered into our lives, and he's been her father ever since. My husband is

00:34:15.720 a loving, caring father and husband, and I am so grateful that my daughter gets to grow up in a

00:34:20.080 normal family. I think I did the right thing in not telling my ex about my daughter, but in doing so,

00:34:24.700 I've lied to everybody. My husband thinks the same thing that everyone else thinks, that I was

00:34:28.160 artificially inseminated. I had to tell him that story when I first met him because I didn't know

00:34:31.840 yet if I could trust him. I also didn't feel like I could tell my daughter the truth. What if she tries

00:34:36.380 to contact him when she's a teen? When I fabricated this whole story, I initially decided to only tell

00:34:40.920 my daughter the truth when she's 18. That way, he won't be able to take her away from me. I know in my

00:34:45.700 heart that I'm doing this to protect my child, but I feel really guilty still, and I find the thought

00:34:50.940 of lying to my daughter almost unbearable. Luckily, she hasn't asked me yet who her real father is,

00:34:56.060 but I know she will someday. Is it wrong to lie even when you're protecting someone? As a mother,

00:35:01.120 I would do anything to protect my baby. Lie, cheat, steal if necessary. So why do I feel so damned guilty?

00:35:07.740 Should I have handled this differently?

00:35:08.940 Well, that's quite a situation, as I'm sure you're aware. Now, to answer the question in the subject

00:35:21.960 line, can lying ever be ethical? I would say, yes, it can be. Now, when I read that subject line,

00:35:29.600 I thought that this was going to go in some hypothetical academic sort of direction with

00:35:34.080 the question, and maybe you'd have one of those. The classic hypothetical is, would it be ethical

00:35:40.080 to lie to the Nazis if you're in Nazi Germany and they're knocking on your door and you're hiding

00:35:45.500 Jews in the attic? Would it be ethical to lie to them and tell them that, no, you're not? I would say, 1.00

00:35:51.260 of course, it's ethical. The only other option in that case would be to tell the truth, to save your

00:35:56.380 own skin out of cowardice, thus sending those people to their horrifying, painful deaths.

00:36:04.500 Clearly, to me, that's not the ethical choice. But just because lying can be ethical doesn't mean

00:36:10.200 that every example of lying, ostensibly to protect somebody, actually is ethical. And I have to say

00:36:15.440 that, to me, from my limited perspective, as somebody who doesn't know anything about you other

00:36:20.200 than what I just read, I would say that your case would definitely seem not to be an example of

00:36:26.620 ethical lying. I would say that this is very unethical lying. Now, leaving someone who's a 1.00

00:36:33.480 danger to you, that, of course, makes sense. He has no right to treat you the way that he did.

00:36:39.040 You had to leave to save yourself from who knows what he might have done next. So I get that. I think

00:36:45.940 anybody gets that. Nobody would have any qualms with that. And if they did, who cares? Because you had

00:36:50.160 to do what was right for you, for your safety. And it may even be perfectly ethical to try and keep

00:36:58.320 him from having any kind of extended contact or relationship with your daughter. If you have good

00:37:02.480 reason to think that he's a danger to her, then yes, that would be ethical too. But do you have the

00:37:07.340 right to keep him from knowing the very fact that he has a daughter? No. I would say no, because that's

00:37:14.900 his daughter, like it or not. Even if he's a scumbag, that's still his daughter. And I think

00:37:20.260 he has a right at a minimum to know that she exists. He did help to conceive her after all.

00:37:28.700 If he's a dangerous man, if he's an abuser, which he sounds like, then it doesn't mean he has any right

00:37:34.360 to be involved in raising her. But he does have a right to know at least. And putting that aside,

00:37:40.620 your daughter definitely has a right to know that she has a father and who he is. That she

00:37:47.580 wasn't conceived in a Petri dish. Yeah, you're right. At this age, she probably isn't wondering

00:37:52.400 about that or doesn't understand anyway. But eventually she's going to want to know. And

00:37:57.000 I think she has a right to know. And your current husband even has a right to know the truth.

00:38:03.120 So from my vantage point, I would say that

00:38:05.380 the ethics of lying really depend on whether the person you're lying to has a right to know the

00:38:13.080 truth. About are you keeping a truth from someone that they have a right to? Now, the point with the

00:38:24.380 Nazi example is that the Nazi has no right to know whether you're hiding a Jewish family in the attic

00:38:32.300 or not. They have no right to that information. And there could be less extreme examples where

00:38:38.580 somebody is demanding information, they have no right to it. And maybe you feel like the only way

00:38:43.760 to keep that information they have no right to in the first place from them is to tell an untruth.

00:38:49.100 And I would say in that case, it's perfectly ethical because they have no right to it.

00:38:52.740 Right? But in this case, there is information here. There's a truth that people in your life have

00:39:00.380 a right to. You don't own that truth. Your daughter has a right to know who her father is.

00:39:05.840 Her father has a right to know that he has a daughter and who she is.

00:39:10.100 Your current husband has a right to know, I think as well.

00:39:15.140 And I think you know all this, which is why your conscience is eating at you. And that's why you're

00:39:19.380 emailing in the first place. Don't take this as any kind of harsh judgment. I understand that you,

00:39:23.960 I understand why you did what you did. You were seemingly in an impossible situation.

00:39:27.360 You made a choice. You know, you decided to tell a lie. And this is the classic thing that everyone

00:39:34.880 learns to some extent in their life at some point. You tell a big lie and eventually you got to follow

00:39:40.140 that up with more lies, more lies, and more lies. There's no such thing as telling one big lie. It

00:39:44.480 never happens because you're going to have to support that lie with other lies. And eventually you've

00:39:49.680 weaved this web of deception where you're looking back at it and you realize there's no way to justify

00:39:54.780 this. This is obviously wrong. And I would say the same in your case. Now, as far as what to do from

00:40:03.800 here and how to go about revealing the truth, because I don't think that you just run into the

00:40:10.360 living room at the drop of a hat and say, let me tell everybody. I don't think that's the way to

00:40:13.600 handle it. I think you have to be thoughtful and considered and careful about how you reveal the truth,

00:40:20.620 which I do think you should reveal. But how to go about that? I, you know, I, what I would really

00:40:26.220 recommend first and foremost is that you seek the counsel of not people in your immediate family,

00:40:32.580 not that their counsel is irrelevant. Although I think they canceled, counseled you wrong six years

00:40:36.840 ago. But of course you continue talking to them and relying on them. But I think you need to seek

00:40:43.420 the counsel of somebody who doesn't know you as well as they do, isn't so emotionally tied to you,

00:40:48.760 but also knows you a lot better than I do because I don't know you at all.

00:40:52.440 So, you know, I don't know if you go, if you go to a church, if there's a pastor you could talk to,

00:40:57.400 just, I would seek the counsel of someone who knows you and who you can sit down with face to face,

00:41:02.180 but isn't so emotionally invested in it and talk to them about how should you, you know, you know

00:41:08.760 that you're in the wrong here. It sounds to me like, you know, you're in the wrong. Where do you go

00:41:12.380 from here? How do you, how do you get yourself out of this? And so I would, I would talk to somebody

00:41:15.980 about that. But thank you for the question in any case. All right. One last question. This is from

00:41:26.940 Luke says, Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt, just for the record, some of us, some of us do respect the

00:41:33.040 office of president, regardless of who's sitting there. Even though I'm a registered and voting

00:41:36.920 Republican, I always made the point of saying president Obama in conversation during his time

00:41:40.660 in office and never said blatantly disrespectful things about him in conversation, regardless of how,

00:41:44.980 of how I felt about his policies. Side note, I know you won't read this on air because you only

00:41:51.020 read stuff you argue, you can argue with, and you won't be able to argue with this. So feel free to

00:41:54.960 stop reading at this point. You coward. A short precursor. You are my second favorite person on

00:41:59.420 the Daily Wire lineup right behind Ben. You coward. You're the, you're my second favorite person.

00:42:05.660 So I normally agree with you. I would say 85% of the time we align, but when we don't, I can respect

00:42:10.660 and understand your reasoning. At least I could until now. You gave a few reasons as to why we

00:42:14.660 would have no reason not to respect the office of a politician. You gave a few reasons as to why

00:42:20.900 we would have no reason not to respect the office of a politician. Hold on a second. I gotta, I gotta

00:42:25.580 work through the sentence. You gave a few reasons as to why we would have no reason not to respect the

00:42:33.640 office of a politician. We would have no reason not to respect. So we would have a reason to

00:42:39.880 respect. But I was saying that we don't. Okay, anyway, I'll charge forward. First was that

00:42:46.200 it's not the office of a monarch. Now, you did not explicitly say that one should respect a

00:42:51.400 monarch, but it was heavily implied. If not for the simple reason that, why else would you even

00:42:55.460 pose this as a reason unless you implied that a monarch is to be respected? I wholly disagree.

00:43:00.000 Monarch rule is imposed. An elected official's rule is subject to the people. Respecting the

00:43:06.080 office is respecting the people's rule by proxy. This is a great reason to respect the office of

00:43:11.140 the president. Luke 1, Matt 0. Secondly, you said that they are our employees. Now you're implying

00:43:18.540 that employees aren't to be respected. I spent five years working as a manager at a retail pharmacy

00:43:23.000 chain, and I always respected my employees. And in return, I earned that respect. I'm actually

00:43:27.240 surprised at your candor on this subject, considering the fact that your boss, Ben Shapiro,

00:43:31.020 almost outright says on air that he respects his employees, you among them. It should be a given

00:43:34.780 that we should respect our public official on the ground, on this ground alone. Luke 2, Matt 0.

00:43:40.580 Next, you said that you respect them if they earn it, and you don't if they don't. I think you're

00:43:45.760 confusing respect and agreement. You can disagree with the actions and words of a politician and still

00:43:49.900 respect the office or the officials themselves. I think that in order to lose my respect, a politician

00:43:54.940 would have to do something terribly egregious. On the other hand, you're making it sound like we

00:43:58.920 should not start out in a place of respect and make them earn it. And I wholly disagree with that

00:44:02.900 notion. Luke 3, Matt 0. Actually, Matt negative 1 because you're a disgusting human being. Now I know 0.93

00:44:08.780 you're going to think I'm disrespecting you in this email, but that is exactly the childish thing you

00:44:12.480 would think, you sniveling baby. I'm only disagreeing with you, and that's all I have to say about

00:44:16.560 that. Thanks for that email, Luke, and I appreciate it. I appreciate your candor.

00:44:22.680 Um, uh, but I, I'll have to maintain my original position, which is, and my first point with,

00:44:30.860 we say, respect the office. My first question is what, what actually does that really mean?

00:44:37.720 I understand it's a phrase, it's a slogan, it's a nice thing to say, but on a day-to-day basis,

00:44:41.820 what do you mean respect the office? How do you respect an office abstractly in the, in the,

00:44:47.080 how do you, I understand how to respect the person. Okay. I don't really understand how

00:44:51.920 to respect an abstract office. Um, so you're gonna have to explain what that means exactly.

00:45:01.120 So I'm not sure I get it. Secondly, I go back to, to what I said that, um, with politicians,

00:45:08.300 I think in America, one of the things that sets us apart or should set us apart from other places 0.99

00:45:13.600 in the world, from almost every other place in the world is that, you know, we do not, um,

00:45:22.480 we certainly don't worship. We don't adore our politicians. We, we are very skeptical of them.

00:45:28.560 We are very open. I guess what I'm saying, this is how it should be because especially in recent

00:45:33.300 times, it hasn't actually been this way and that's a problem, but the way it should be,

00:45:36.400 the way the system was originally set up is that we are skeptical. We are critical. We're not

00:45:40.900 supposed to fall into cults of personality with our politicians. We look at them. They are our

00:45:45.980 employees and we say, do your job. If you don't do it, we're going to fire you. And, uh, you know,

00:45:53.300 we're not going to bow down before you. You, if you want us to respect you, you gotta, you have to

00:45:58.880 earn it. That's my essential point. Politicians should earn our respect. And if there is a politician

00:46:08.100 who is, is not respectable because they're corrupt and they're a liar and they're not doing their job

00:46:19.120 and they're not representing the interests of the people. Okay. Even if it's not the president,

00:46:22.940 let's say it's a congressman and there are plenty of congressmen out there like this

00:46:25.540 and congresswomen. So this is a, if this were, let's say a contemptible human being and a liar and

00:46:32.700 a phony and a fraud and an opportunist. I have no respect for them, but I respect their office.

00:46:40.180 What, how do you even delineate that in your mind? And what does that mean in practice?

00:46:46.820 I just don't think it means anything. I think it's a very simple concept. Earn my respect.

00:46:53.640 Do I go in immediately not respecting politicians? No, I'm, I'm sort of neutral. I have no feelings

00:46:59.900 about them. Show me, show me what you can do. Prove it. That's my, that's my approach.

00:47:07.920 This is why I've so often said we shouldn't be fans of politicians, any politician. We could be

00:47:14.020 supporters, but our support should be very conditional and very tentative.

00:47:21.920 We, in sports, we don't like fair weather fans. I get that. But in, in, with politics,

00:47:27.440 we shouldn't be fans at all, but we should be fair weather supporters. As in, I'm supporting you

00:47:33.040 now because I, you know, I, I, to some extent, I believe that you have the character for the job,

00:47:40.000 that you have the integrity for the job. I support your policies. And so I support you. But if it's

00:47:45.640 revealed that you have bad character and if it's, and if, and if you, if you don't follow through on

00:47:49.980 your promises in terms of policies, then I, then, then that's gone. I don't support you anymore.

00:47:53.280 Why would I? What am I supporting? I never supported you because I love your smile. I

00:47:58.520 supported you for what you were going to bring to the table. If you don't bring that to the table,

00:48:01.960 like you promised, then I'm going to kick you out of the dinner party. That's the way it should go.

00:48:09.680 So unfortunately, Luke, I still think you lose this conversation, but thanks again for the email.

00:48:16.540 So, and I think, I guess we'll leave it there for the, for the weekend. Have a great weekend,

00:48:22.160 everybody. And I remind you again that my book, Church of Cowards, has gone on sale, pre-sale,

00:48:27.460 comes out February 25th. But please go on Amazon and, and, and pre-order, pre-order one for yourself and

00:48:33.600 your friends, for your whole church. You know, I won't stop you from doing that.

00:48:40.420 And look out for that on February 25th. All right, that's it. Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - February 07, 2020

Ep. 422 - The Barbaric Extremism Of The Democratic Party

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