Ep. 429 - The Biggest Loser
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Former New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg delivers a blistering attack on Bernie Sanders in the first Democratic primary debate. Former Vice President Joe Biden, on the other hand, delivers an impassioned defense of his opponent, Hillary Clinton.
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Okay, fine. You know what? I'll do it. I'll be the Democratic nominee. I'll take the job. Nobody
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else seems to want the job, so you've twisted my arm enough, and I'll do it. I'm in. I take it.
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Now, I know that I don't necessarily check all the boxes ideologically that you need to to be
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considered a liberal Democrat, but I do have a strong sense of entitlement,
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and I do, of course, as you know, have a deep desire to control people. And so I think
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that makes me well-qualified to be the Democratic nominee. And that's not to say that I don't
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believe in freedom, first of all. That's a myth, you know, that I don't believe in freedom. I just
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I certainly believe, first and foremost, in my own freedom, and I also believe that everybody else
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should be free to do the stuff that I want them to do. So again, my conception of freedom is identical
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to the conception of every Democrat who was on the stage last night, so just give me the job.
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Now, as for the debate, most people seem to be saying that Bernie Sanders was the big winner
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of the contest last night. So again, I have to kind of disagree with conventional wisdom.
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It seems to me that Bernie was the loser, the biggest loser, even bigger than Bloomberg,
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who himself was certainly a loser as well. And I want to explain why. First of all, you know,
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let's setting the stage as it were. Everyone, of course, was landing shots on Bloomberg. Last night
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was it was like watching. It was as if someone had thrown a wounded rat into a piranha tank. And
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that's it was just a free for all, a feeding frenzy on Bloomberg. And you couldn't ask for a greater
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blessing, really, if you're a Democrat candidate to have this feeble old billionaire degenerate on the
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stage with you so you can practice your best anti-billionaire insults. It was they were all
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absolutely thrilled to have him because because of that opportunity provided to them. And so it was
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last night was sort of like watching a training camp for socialist demagogues with Bloomberg acting
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the part of a tackling dummy. And the crazy thing is that the guy seemed somehow completely blindsided
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by the treatment he received. Now, I guess that's what happens when you, you know, you've got 60 billion
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dollars and you surround yourself with yes men and you're paying people to say nice things about you
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on social media. When you've got that kind of money, nobody around him has the courage to stand up and
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say, hey, listen, Mr. Bloomberg, these people are going to skin you alive. You are an old white
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billionaire. OK, they're going to skin you alive and then roll you around in salt. That's what's going
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to happen. So be prepared for that. Nobody said that to Bloomberg. So somehow he was unprepared.
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He walked in there and managed to come off like he wasn't expecting what happened, which is which
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is pretty amazing. Probably the roughest moment of the night was this this moment right here. Watch
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this. In a lawsuit in the 1990s, according to The Washington Post, one former female employee
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alleged that you said, quote, I would do you in a second. Should Democrats expect better from their
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nominee? Let me let me say a couple of things and if I can have my full minute and a quarter. Thank
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you. I have no tolerance for the kind of behavior that the Me Too movement movement has exposed
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and anybody that does anything wrong in our company, we investigate it. And if it's appropriate,
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they're gone that day. But let me tell you what I do in my company and my foundation and in city
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government when I was there. In my foundation, the person that runs it's a woman, 70% of the people
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there are women. In my company, lots and lots of women have big responsibilities. They get paid exactly
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the same as men. And in my in city hall, the person that's the top person, my deputy mayor was a woman
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and 40% of our commissioners were women. I am very proud of the fact that about two weeks ago,
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we were awarded, we were voted the most, the best place to work, second best place in America.
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If that doesn't say something about our employees and how happy they are, I don't know what does.
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Yeah, you see there, he didn't have a somehow he didn't have a better answer prepared for that
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question. It took him off guard. And he also didn't have an answer prepared for the other this
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other line of attack from Elizabeth Warren. I'd like to talk about who we're running against
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a billionaire who calls women fat broads and horse faced lesbians. And no, I'm not talking
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about Donald Trump. I'm talking about Mayor Bloomberg. Democrats are not going to win. If we
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have a nominee who has a history of hiding his tax returns, of harassing women, and of supporting
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racist policies like redlining and stop and frisk. Look, I'll support whoever the Democratic nominee
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is. But understand this, Democrats take a huge risk if we just substitute one arrogant billionaire
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for another. This country has worked for the rich for a long time and left everyone else in the dirt.
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It is time to have a president who will be on the side of working families and be willing to get out
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there and fight for them. That is why I am in this race. And that is how I will beat Donald Trump.
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Now, I think all of this was made so much worse by the startling contrast between Bloomberg's online
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persona, the image constructed by his marketing team, and the actual man himself. Anyone who was a
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supporter of Bloomberg's, however many of those people actually existed, whoever was supporting
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Bloomberg leading up to the debate, they had to feel like they'd been catfished. He's this,
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online, he's this kind of irreverent and savvy guy online, or rather his social media team is,
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or tries to be, oftentimes failing. But that's the image that he's trying to construct of himself.
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But then in person, he shrinks and shrivels in front of our very eyes. And he's already a pretty
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short guy, so he doesn't have a lot of room to spare. By the end of the debate, he could barely
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see over the podium. Bloomberg is basically the embodiment of every loudmouth, tough guy on Twitter
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who gets all shy when you meet them in person. It was a disaster for him. Now, again, what the image
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he wants to put off is that he's savvy. He's a tough guy. He's from New York. He always talks about
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how he's from New York. No nonsense. He just wants to beat Donald Trump. Cranky old bastard kind of
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thing. And that would be, if he could actually pull that off, if he had taken that tack in the
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debate, I think it would work well for him. But instead, he became even worse than shrinking away
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and having zero charisma and zero personality. He was apologizing all over the place.
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Apologizing, worst of all, apologizing for, among other things, his number one accomplishment,
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which was to significantly lower the murder rate and the crime rate in New York. Now, that's a real
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thing that he did. He didn't do it by himself. He doesn't get all the credit for it, but he did have
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something to do with it. That's a real accomplishment in governance. And he apologized for that. He backed
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away from that. He backed away from everything, which is the exact opposite of what he needed to
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do. The attitude he needed to have was, listen, guys. Yeah, you know what? I'm rich. Okay. I'm
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inappropriate. I get all of that. Okay. Maybe I'm not very palatable to your sensibilities,
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but look at Donald Trump. I'm exactly the kind of guy you need to go up against Donald Trump.
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That's the selling, his only selling point if he has one, but that's not what he went with. Instead,
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he just groveled and apologized and tried to get into a woke off, a woke contest with the socialists
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M A T T to 64,000. All right. So as I said, I think, I think Bernie Sanders actually is the one who
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lost the debate, even though it was a disaster for Bloomberg as well. Here's the moment where
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What a wonderful country we have. The best known socialists in the country happens to be a
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millionaire with three houses. What'd I miss here?
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Well, you'll miss that. I work in Washington, house one.
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And like thousands of other Vermonters, I do have a summer camp.
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Forgive me for that. Where is your home? Which tax haven do you have your home?
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New York City. Thank you very much. And I pay all my taxes.
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Now, first of all, it's pretty amazing that Sanders has done so many of these debates.
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And this is the first time to my memory that anyone has hit him for being a communist with
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a million bucks in the bank and three houses. Now he gets hit for that all the time among
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conservatives, on Fox News and on Twitter and everything. But to his face at a debate,
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is the first time I can think of that someone has brought that up.
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And the guy who finally attacked him for it has about 20 houses himself at a minimum.
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So it took a billionaire to point out that the socialist who hates rich people is a rich
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person himself. But here's the significance of this moment. Remember, everybody in the debate,
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everybody on stage, landing punches on Bloomberg, left and right, taking turns at the pinata.
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No blindfold, right? Just a metal bat and the pinata and they're whacking it. And there's
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Tootsie Rolls and Jolly Ranchers flying all over the place. But then it's Bernie's turn at the pinata.
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And instead, the pinata grabs the bat out of his hand and whacks him. He got beat by the pinata.
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Bernie was the only one on the stage who got whacked by Bloomberg.
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He was the only one that Bloomberg was able to land a blow on. And if I'm a Bernie fan, that makes
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me pretty uncomfortable. That my candidate is so vulnerable and susceptible that Michael Bloomberg
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was able to have a moment like that. Now, why did the attack work from Bloomberg?
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Um, why was Sanders the one guy that even Bloomberg with his total lack of charisma and personality was
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able to nail? Because Sanders is an extraordinarily weak candidate whose hypocrisy and inconsistency is
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hanging there in the open, just waiting to be used against him. He is a, he's a, he's a millionaire
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And again, Bloomberg is the first guy to bring this up in a debate.
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You think Donald Trump will be shy about bringing that up?
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I would predict that's going to be one of the only things that that's just going to be the
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refrain over and over. We're going to keep going back to that.
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And consider how weak, uh, Bernie's rejoinder was speaking of being unprepared for a really
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obvious line of attack. Now, at least in Bernie's case, he was unprepared because no one's brought
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it up before. Um, but he explains the three homes by, by calling his $600,000 vacation home, a summer
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camp. Now, Bernie, I've been camping. Okay. That ain't camping. That's not any kind of camping I've
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ever heard of. A $600,000 lakefront vacation home, which is your third home. That's not camping.
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So Bernie didn't do himself any favors there. And he didn't do himself any favors here either. Watch.
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Mayor Bloomberg, you own a large company. Would you support what Senator Sanders is proposing?
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Absolutely not. I can't think of a ways that would make it easier for Donald Trump to get
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reelected than listening to this conversation. It's ridiculous. We're not going to throw out
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capitalism. We tried that. Other countries tried that. It was called communism and it just didn't
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work. That was very telling. That moment there is a small moment. I don't know. It seems like
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people missed it, but Bloomberg mentions communism in a negative light. He besmirches the name of
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communism and Bernie and Warren get very upset. They start raising it. Whoa. Did you hear that?
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That was actually Warren's reaction. Whoa. Hey, hey, come on. Leave communism out of this.
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Communism never hurt anybody except for a hundred million people that it killed.
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Last thing from the debate that I want to mention is this moment from Bernie Sanders.
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If speaking to the needs and the pain of a long neglected working class is polarizing,
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I think you got the wrong word. What we are trying finally to do is to give a voice to people
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who, after 45 years of work, are not making a nickel more than they did 45 years ago.
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We are giving a voice to people who are saying we are sick and tired of billionaires like Mr.
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Bloomberg seeing huge expansions of their wealth while a half a million people sleep out on the street
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tonight. And that's what we are saying, Pete, is maybe it's a time for the working class of this
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country to have a little bit of power in Washington rather than your billionaire campaign contributors.
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Did you catch that? Bernie says there are people who've been working for 45 years
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and don't make a nickel more today than they did 45 years ago.
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Who? What? Who? Who? Who exactly? I'm going to need some specific examples. I'm going to need you
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to provide specific examples of people who have been, I mean, find me any adult. Find me one adult
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in this country who's been working for 45 years, for half a century, and is still making the same
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amount today that he made, that this person made 50 years ago. Can you find me just one example of
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somebody in that camp? Now, even if I'm generous and I allow for the possibility that Bernie meant
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that they don't make a nickel more than they did 45 years ago when adjusted for inflation,
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that would still be BS. Because a person who made $5 an hour in 1975, 45 years ago, would make $24
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an hour today, adjusted for inflation. So you're telling me there are people who've worked jobs all
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that time for half a century, and all they've gotten is inflation-adjusted raises, no actual
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real raises in 45 years. But this is what Democrats do. I mean, rather than just sticking with reality,
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because in reality, of course, there are people, now, I don't think there's anybody who's been
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working for 45 years and hasn't gotten a raise. I mean, imagine that, that'd be like, you know,
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you've got someone who's 60, working since 15, hasn't gotten a raise since the age of 15.
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I don't think there's anybody like that. But there are plenty of people who are struggling financially.
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So you just say that. That's all you have to say. There are people who are struggling financially.
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It's just like when we talk about the minimum wage. There are people who are on the minimum wage and
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are struggling. Okay, yeah, I agree with that. It doesn't mean I agree that the government needs
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to solve that problem or can solve it without creating more problems and creating those problems
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for the very people that's trying to help. But you could say that there are people who are struggling
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on minimum wage. That's true. The issue is when you start pretending that, for example,
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there are people who, you know, mothers who have been working minimum wage for 10 years, you know,
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and haven't been able to get over, haven't been able to get over even that hump of minimum wage,
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like that kind of thing. It's just, it's not necessary to lie like that. But that's what,
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that's what Bernie Sanders does. And that's another reason why he'll, he's so vulnerable and would be so
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easy to beat. Because he just says things, says things that have no basis in reality. He has no
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Two interesting items here that we will look at together. Uh, the first is another question sent
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into Slate's advice column. The headline here is my wife wants to have sex with her brother.
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I'm not opposed in principle. I'm not opposed in principle. That's the question.
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Now I'm not going to read the actual thing. I don't think you need the nitty gritty details here.
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Suffice it to say that this guy's in an open marriage with his wife and, um, meaning that they
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both have sexual relations with other people. And his wife suggested happily one night that
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maybe they should have a threesome with her brother. And the husband says that this is an
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uncomfortable direction for them to go, but he has no real philosophical objection to it.
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In fact, his main concern is, is that it'll make his relationship with his brother-in-law awkward.
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That's the main thing he's worried about. Now credit to our intrepid advice columnist in this case
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though, because he does get around to the right conclusion. He says at the end, and this is sage advice
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for everybody. He says, I don't think you should do anything that makes you uncomfortable, particularly
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if it involves having sex with your wife and her brother. I mean, that's the kind of advice you can
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live by, frankly. I mean, I, I, I can find no, nothing to criticize in that advice. Of course,
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the reason that Slate takes questions like this and puts them in articles and in headlines and stuff
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is that people notice them and react and react in the same way, which is revulsion across the board,
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across the board, revulsion. But we have to ask why, right? I mean, what exactly is the problem
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with an arrangement like this? If the husband were to agree, it would be something between
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consenting adults. And isn't that all that matters? See, we no longer have the language in this culture
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to explain why something like this is wrong, though. We know it is. I mean, everybody does.
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We know that inherently and we don't have the language because we otherwise insist that the
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only ethical boundary for sex, the only rule that must be followed is consent. We we've gotten used to
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excusing anything on the basis of consent, but then, so we've, we've stripped away all the rules of
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sex, all the, all the ethical guidelines, all the considerations that you're supposed to take
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into account before having a sexual relationship with somebody. We, we, we've stripped all that away
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and we've boiled it down only to consent. It's the only thing that matters. Whereas in the past,
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I mean, consent mattered, but then there were also other things too that you should take into account.
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The problem though, that we, we, we've discovered is that, well, it's actually not all about consent.
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Consent is, is, is not the only thing there are, you know, it is possible. It turns out to have a
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consensual sexual relationship between adults. That's still wrong. Here's an example, but we don't
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have the language. We don't have the language for explaining, um, what it is. You know, when we, when
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we see it or when we hear about a sexual, hopefully we don't see it. When we hear about a sexual
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relationship between consenting adults that we still, that we know is wrong, you know, we know that it,
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it lacks something that it should have, or it has something that it shouldn't. But what is that thing?
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Well, I know what it is. You, you know what it is, hopefully, but it's something with implications
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that our culture finds dangerous. And that's what leads to this kind of confusion. Um, and that thing
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is, you know, the, the, the, I think the word that we're, people in our culture are struggling to
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avoid or, or, or don't understand is that it's disordered. This is a relationship that is disordered.
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It is outside the proper order of things. That's what disordered means. Why would it be wrong for
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this husband and wife to have sex with the wife's brother? Because that's not what you do with your
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brother. This is not how the relationship is supposed to work. We all know that's the answer.
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We all agree, or almost all of us hopefully agree. Yeah. We don't like the answer because it
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introduces the concept of proper order to human sexuality. And, and that we're afraid might be a
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knife that cuts deeper than we want it to. We're okay with it, with, with, with taking that knife
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and carving out these really perverse things out on the peripheral of human experience and human
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sexuality. We're okay with getting rid of that stuff, but what if it keeps cutting? We worry what
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then. So most leftists will not say that this relationship described in the letter is, it's a
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slate is disordered. That's not the word they're going to use. That's not the language they're going
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to use, but then what word will they use? What can they say? That's the point. There's nothing.
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They, they know it's wrong, but they have no way of explaining why it's wrong.
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Another example, uh, Utah is moving towards decriminalizing polygamy according to the Salt
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Lake Tribune. Well, what exactly is the argument against that? I can think of a few, but none that
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are consistent with the, whatever consenting adults do is okay. Ethic. This is the whole point of the,
00:26:25.100
of the slippery slope argument that people have made, um, when it comes to human sexuality and
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marriage and opening up the death, the definition of marriage. And this is why, by the way,
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the slippery slope argument is not a fallacy. So when you make a, an argument, slippery slope
00:26:43.640
argument and someone says, Oh, that's a, that's a fallacy. It's a slippery slope. No. Number one,
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this thing that people do online is sort of a side issue, but this thing people do online where they,
00:26:52.920
they try to rebut your argument just by labeling, uh, labeling it a certain fallacy. They call it the
00:26:59.800
whatever X, Y, Z fallacy. And then they move on as if they've, as if that in itself suffices as a
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response. It's not, um, there is nothing in itself fallacious about making a slippery slope argument.
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The whole point of the slippery slope argument is to say, listen, um, you are justifying a certain
00:27:23.120
thing, certain behavior, a certain act, whatever. And you're using certain arguments to justify it.
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Now here's the problem. What if I can take that argument fully intact and use it to justify
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something over here that we both agree is wrong? Isn't that an issue? See, what that would seem to
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tell us is that either there's something wrong with your argument or there's something wrong with the
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thing that you're trying to justify, or maybe that this thing over here is actually okay too.
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But it's going to be one of those options. And now we got to figure out which one it is.
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As far as I can see it, that's the point of the slippery slope argument.
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And so when people said things like, well, it's only, all that matters is what consenting adults do.
00:28:24.760
You know, people who were trying to protect the quote unquote traditional definition of marriage.
00:28:30.120
marriage, the point we were making is, okay, but we, that argument can clearly be used.
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I can take that argument fully intact and clearly use it to justify this stuff over here that even
00:28:45.960
you think is wrong. That means that there's an issue here.
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And if you're not willing to argue that these things over here are wrong, then there's only two
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possible conclusions left. There's something wrong with your argument or there's something wrong with
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the thing you're justifying. That's what we've discovered.
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It turns out at a minimum, um, love is love and, you know, whatever consenting adults do, those are bad
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my, my dear friend, uh, AOC, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez was on my favorite show. Um, the view really great
00:30:45.440
to have your two favorite things together in that way. And she was surprisingly talking about the, um,
00:30:51.620
evil rich men. Pretty shocking from her to hear that kind of rhetoric. She's very rare sort of
00:30:57.280
rhetoric from AOC. Usually she'd be the last person on earth to demonize someone for their income.
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So this is not the AOC that I know. Anyway, listen to what she had to say.
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Our entire political system revolves, frankly, around rich men and rich men are not the center
00:31:16.760
of my universe. Working families are. And now, now, wait, hang on a second here. The system revolves
00:31:28.720
around rich men, but they aren't the center of her universe. Well then what is this all about?
00:31:36.620
It wasn't until I heard of a man by the name of Bernie Sanders, that I began to question and assert
00:31:48.720
and recognize my inherent value as a human being that deserves healthcare, housing, education,
00:31:59.400
and a living wage. I could be crazy, but it sounds like AOC there is saying that a rich white
00:32:06.520
man taught her about her value as a human being. She learned that she has a value as a person from
00:32:11.860
a rich white man. Yet rich white men aren't the center of her universe. It sounds like they
00:32:16.400
definitely are. At least one of them is. And she also said, as usual, that billionaires should not
00:32:23.360
exist. I don't think that in a place where 60% of Americans can't even, you know, make more than
00:32:30.560
$40,000 a year, that the presence of a billionaire who largely makes their money off of businesses
00:32:35.620
underpaying their workers like Walmart, like Amazon, like so on should exist.
00:32:40.960
Bernie said the same thing last night at the debate. And I have to tell you, I will never
00:32:45.760
quite get used to hearing agents of the state say that certain types of people shouldn't exist.
00:32:52.320
I will, I don't think it's, I'll never get used to it. It creeps me out to put it mildly. But here's
00:32:59.320
my question for Bernie and AOC and everybody in their camp. First of all, if billionaires don't
00:33:06.120
exist, who's going to pay for all the socialist programs? Where's that money coming from?
00:33:12.580
On one hand, you say they shouldn't exist. And on the other hand, you say that they should pay to
00:33:16.080
reimburse everybody's student loans, along with a dozen other things you want them to do and pay for
00:33:22.380
it. So which is it? Because if they don't exist, they can't pay for that stuff.
00:33:28.660
And then who's going to pay for it? Who would pay for it then?
00:33:34.360
Second, what do you think happens to those 60% of Americans that AOC mentioned? 60% who,
00:33:42.520
you know, are whatever she said, are making 40 or 50 grand or less a year.
00:33:48.880
What happens to them when their bosses, the people who own the companies they work for,
00:33:54.420
suffer massive losses in income or disappear? I mean, I don't know what, when you say
00:34:00.240
billionaires shouldn't exist, do you want to just kill these people? I mean, what do you want to do?
00:34:04.760
You want to shoot them into the sun? What's your plan exactly? But let's take the less violent
00:34:10.740
approach and assume that you mean, well, we're going to stop them from being billionaires by just
00:34:15.900
taking almost all their money. Okay. Well, what happens then? What happens to their companies?
00:34:24.060
What happens to all their employees? Have you thought about this? Have you thought this through at all?
00:34:30.780
No, of course you haven't, because this is just childishness. That's a lot worse than childishness
00:34:40.480
because it's coming from adults who also are in government and have power. So I wish it was
00:34:45.920
merely childishness. But it's, that's, that's about as, as, you know, in terms of the, the intellectual
00:34:55.160
complexity of what we're dealing with, that's, that's it. It's, this is, this is the mentality
00:35:00.380
of a child saying they have a billion dollars. I don't have it. That's unfair. They shouldn't have
00:35:06.140
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