The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 430 - Lie Or Be Fired

00:00:00.180 President Trump has given us the controversy for the day, like a teacher handing out the

00:00:04.640 homework assignment. The controversy is, should the movie Parasite have won Best Picture and

00:00:10.720 is Gone with the Wind a better movie? So Trump at a campaign rally last night decided to go on

00:00:15.560 an extended riff on this subject, which is great because a lot of people don't realize this, but

00:00:19.960 actually constitutionally, the president is considered the nation's chief film critic.

00:00:25.740 That's one of the enumerated roles of the president of the United States. So it says so right in the

00:00:31.140 document. So, you know, that's good. And it happens that he did get this one right, I have to say.

00:00:36.540 He said that Parasite should not have won Best Picture. Now his problem is apparently is that

00:00:40.500 Parasite is South Korean. It's a foreign film. That to me is not the issue. The issue is that it just

00:00:47.420 is not a very good movie. I watched it myself this past weekend, in fact. Now, in fairness,

00:00:52.240 I was in a delirious half dead state with the flu. So maybe that affected my judgment of the movie.

00:00:59.580 I don't know. But it really seemed to me to be a sort of okay movie. That is also a metaphor about

00:01:07.160 class struggle. But the filmmaker beats you over the head with the metaphor that there's just no

00:01:12.380 subtlety. It has all the subtlety of one of the speeches that the dad and Full House gives at the end

00:01:19.520 of each episode to the daughter sort of, okay, here's the message of today's episode, boys and

00:01:24.820 girls. Except that in this case, in the film, there's a whole lot more stabbing than there 0.60

00:01:29.100 typically is in a Full House episode. So anyway, Trump is right about Parasite. And I'm glad that

00:01:34.040 we could have that conversation because it is indeed, without question, one of the most pressing

00:01:39.760 issues that our country faces. As for the less pressing issues, I want to begin today with

00:01:45.940 a case at Shawnee State University in Ohio. A professor is being told by a judge that he must

00:01:52.680 use the preferred pronouns of a transgender student or he can be fired if he doesn't. The professor

00:02:00.420 claims that this requirement is discriminatory against him. It violates his free speech. It

00:02:05.260 violates his religious liberty. But the court said, no, you can be forced to pretend that a male

00:02:12.040 student is female. The court said it is reasonable for you to be made to participate in the delusion

00:02:18.560 of a gender-confused student. So there's a lot to discuss here with this case. So we're going to get

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00:04:53.680 has gotten himself into trouble at his work. Here's the background. Dr. Merriweather last year

00:05:01.240 was responding to a male student's question during class. And in responding, Dr. Merriweather said,

00:05:07.900 yes, sir. He apparently refers to all of his students as sir or ma'am and calls them Mr.

00:05:12.960 or Ms. And then their last name when referring to him. If you can imagine it, this guy apparently

00:05:17.700 believes in actually being polite and courteous and having etiquette. Okay. He's one of those,

00:05:23.100 one of those weirdos. Anyway, so he's been doing this, referring to people this way, presumably his

00:05:28.380 whole life, just about. But this time it was a problem. Turns out the sir that he was addressing

00:05:34.540 prefers to be a ma'am, even though he is in fact a sir. He was a biological male who identifies as female.

00:05:41.400 So the trans student approached the professor after class and demanded to be referred to

00:05:47.040 by female pronouns. Dr. Merriweather said he couldn't do that. Now, according to the Alliance

00:05:53.620 Defending Freedom, which is the organization that's been representing Dr. Merriweather,

00:05:58.560 the student then, quote, became aggressive, circling around him, getting in his face in a threatening

00:06:03.280 fashion while telling him that I guess this means I can call you a C word. See you next Tuesday.

00:06:09.640 Except he said the word. Before walking away, the student promised to get Dr. Merriweather fired

00:06:15.200 if he did not agree to the student's demands. Sounds like a lovely, lovely young man.

00:06:21.600 Reading more from ADF, here's what happened next. They say, quote, the student filed a complaint with

00:06:26.360 the university, which launched a formal investigation. As a Christian, Dr. Merriweather

00:06:30.340 believes that God has created human beings in his image as a male or female, and that God does not

00:06:35.640 make mistakes. To call a man a woman or vice versa would be to say something that is just not true,

00:06:39.300 and to endorse an ideology that conflicts with his religious beliefs. So Dr. Merriweather offered

00:06:43.840 a compromise. He would refer to the student by a first or last name only. Perfectly reasonable

00:06:48.920 compromise that respects the freedoms of everybody involved. But that was not enough for university

00:06:52.820 officials. Instead, they formally charged Dr. Merriweather, claiming that he created a hostile

00:06:56.960 environment for the student. Later, they placed a written warning in his personnel file that threatened,

00:07:02.520 quote, further corrective actions if he did not refer to students using pronouns that reflect their

00:07:07.120 self-asserted gender identity. The university warned Dr. Merriweather that he'd be in violation of its

00:07:11.800 non-discrimination policy if he agreed to refer to men as women while putting a disclaimer in his

00:07:19.880 syllabus saying he was being compelled to do so against his beliefs. So apparently that was another

00:07:24.280 compromise that Dr. Merriweather offered. He said, apparently, okay, I'll use the pronoun,

00:07:32.280 the incorrect pronoun, but I'm going to put something in the syllabus saying that I'm being

00:07:37.480 forced to do this. That was no good either. The message from the university is loud and clear.

00:07:42.560 You must endorse the university's favored ideology or be punished. There is no room for dissent.

00:07:51.040 Okay, so that's the lead up to the lawsuit. And then eventually Merriweather filed a lawsuit.

00:07:58.140 All that Dr. Merriweather wants to do, just to be clear, just to reiterate this, all he wants to do

00:08:04.480 is his job. He wants to do his job as a professor and not be forced to tell a lie. That's it. He wants

00:08:12.380 to do his job without being forced to lie. That's it. That's his only request. He's not asking this

00:08:19.420 student to do anything. He's not trying to take anything away from this student. He's not trying

00:08:24.880 to impose anything on this student. He's even offered compromises. There are ways that the

00:08:35.380 professor could refrain from lying while also refraining from using any pronouns that this poor

00:08:41.260 student might find traumatic. But even those compromises aren't good enough for the student

00:08:45.560 or for the university. No, they need the lie, the full lie. So help you God. Now that brings us to the

00:08:53.140 court. The latest news is that the court has dismissed Dr. Merriweather's case saying that he

00:08:57.320 can, he can indeed be fired for refusing to lie. The court ruled, quote, plaintiff's refusal to

00:09:03.040 address a student in class in accordance with the student's gender identity does not implicate broader

00:09:07.760 societal concerns and the free speech clause of the first amendment under the circumstances of this

00:09:12.640 case. Reading now from a report in the Daily Wire says the court rejected the professor's religious

00:09:17.660 objections saying the reasonable person standard would not consider using preferred pronouns as

00:09:23.760 unreasonable and that the anti-discrimination policy is, quote, neutral and therefore not

00:09:29.600 specifically affecting any religious group or belief. Most shockingly, the court upheld the

00:09:34.420 university's position that it could not accommodate the professor due to his religious objection as it

00:09:38.920 would then be required to make similar accommodations for racist or sexist views as well.

00:09:42.920 Now, we should stipulate. Actually, hang on, because there's another important point here

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00:11:01.720 I sent you. Okay. Back to this case. We should stipulate that although the professor offered the

00:11:07.400 compromise of calling the student just by their first name or their last name, which presumably

00:11:15.440 means that, you know, if this student chose a traditionally feminine name, you know, I don't know.

00:11:22.220 I mean, let's say the student wanted to be called Sally or Jennifer or something. Presumably, the professor

00:11:26.820 would call him that. Um, because the thing with the name is you could choose any name you want.

00:11:33.840 So if you say that something is your name, if that's what you want your name to be, then that's

00:11:37.980 your name. Okay, fine. Um, not a problem because you own your name in that sense. You could choose

00:11:47.760 any name and it's your name. That's how names work. They're very specific to you personally.

00:11:54.460 Pronouns aren't like that. Any more than a verb is like that or an adverb or a noun or these,

00:12:03.540 these are parts of speech. These are grammatical constructs. You don't own them in that same sense.

00:12:10.720 You don't decide how they are applied to you. That's not the way that language works. It can't work

00:12:17.840 that way. Now, um, but there was another compromise that was offered by the university.

00:12:28.840 They said, okay, well, if you want, you could stop referring to all of your students according

00:12:35.580 to their gender. Stop calling everybody, sir or ma'am. Um, and, and that will be acceptable, 1.00

00:12:43.400 but this compromise gives the whole game away, doesn't it? Because it shows that this student,

00:12:50.800 it shows what he's really up to and what the university is really up to. What he really wants

00:12:55.400 is control. Okay. He's an egomaniac control freak, just like the people at the university

00:13:03.080 trying to exercise power and domination over somebody else. That's it. That's what this really

00:13:12.160 is. That's what's really happening. Every time somebody freaks out and demands that you adopt

00:13:17.880 different pronouns, trying to control the language you use when speaking to them. And even when they're

00:13:26.520 not in the room, okay, that's, that's, that, that is an egomaniac on a, on a power trip.

00:13:35.220 If the student has some issue with not being called ma'am, how would that issue suddenly be

00:13:41.680 magically resolved if nobody else is being called ma'am? I mean, what difference does it make to him

00:13:47.740 what the professor calls other people? How would that solve his, whatever emotional trauma he

00:13:54.140 supposedly experiences from not being called ma'am or she or her? How is that trauma alleviated

00:14:02.320 by, by controlling what other people are called? Is this about the trans student trying to stand

00:14:10.880 for his alleged rights or is it just about controlling language? It would seem to be the

00:14:16.560 latter in this case, which is why he'd be fine if he could force the professor to change the way he

00:14:21.400 talks to everyone. A few additional points here. Um, there are two ways really to threaten, uh, or

00:14:32.760 impose upon free speech. One is to prevent people from saying what they believe. The other is to force

00:14:41.680 them to say things they don't believe. This case represents the latter. Well, it represents both

00:14:47.680 actually, but primarily the latter. And the latter is the far more extreme kind of free speech

00:14:53.740 infringement. It's one thing to punish people for, for, for what they say or to tell them they're not

00:15:00.220 allowed to say such and such. It's another to punish them for what they don't say and to tell them they

00:15:05.340 have to say such and such. And even worse in this case is that the school wants to force the professor

00:15:11.120 not just to say something that violates his beliefs, but to say something that violates reality.

00:15:18.640 They want to force him to lie, to speak untruth, right? To be dishonest. I'm not a huge fan of the

00:15:27.220 ADF and this professor making this a religious liberty issue. Uh, I'm, I'm not saying it isn't a 0.97

00:15:32.460 religious liberty issue. It is, but in a sense it is, but, uh, because it's true that the Christian 0.81

00:15:38.860 faith forbids lying and it's true. The Christian faith says that God created us male and female,

00:15:43.560 but you don't need to be a Christian to see that men are, are men and not women, right? Uh, the, 0.71

00:15:51.080 the fact that individuals with a male reproductive organs are men, that's not a Christian fact. That's

00:16:00.600 not a, it's not a, it's not a matter of faith or of, of doctrine. That's just, that's reality.

00:16:06.640 That's scientific reality. And I'm, I'm wary of, in a sense, reducing our position on this subject

00:16:13.420 to one of, uh, religious doctrine, because I think the other side would like everyone to believe

00:16:21.380 that we're only resisting their gender ideology because of what the Bible says or what our churches

00:16:26.760 say. They want everyone to believe that our point is a religious one. It's a religious point. And so

00:16:33.700 when we refuse to do what they want, we are imposing our religion on them. That's what the 0.98

00:16:38.340 other side wants people to believe. But it's not true, uh, because it's got nothing to do with it.

00:16:46.460 Everything that I say on the gender issue, all of it, I would say, even if I wasn't a Christian,

00:16:51.480 if I was Muslim, Jewish, Hindu, if I was atheist, Buddhist, pantheist, whatever, it doesn't matter.

00:16:58.460 I'd, I'd be saying the exact same thing because this is about reality first and foremost. It's

00:17:03.820 about truth versus fiction. So this is really not actually a, a, uh, religious liberty issue. It's,

00:17:11.140 it's even more fundamental than that. This is just about the reality that we live in. And what's

00:17:16.840 happening here is, um, it's not that the, that the university is trying to get a professor to deny

00:17:23.440 his faith. We, that would be bad enough. The university is trying to get the professor to

00:17:29.400 deny reality. And given that this is a university, supposedly in a place of, of education, that's a

00:17:38.760 pretty big deal because you could all, there are always going to be people who claim that, well,

00:17:45.220 it's no big deal for universities to get professors to stifle their religious views because it has no

00:17:50.900 place in the classroom. Anyway, people are always going to be saying that, but, uh, okay, but should

00:18:00.300 universities be, be telling professors to stifle their understanding of biological realities too?

00:18:09.020 By the way, in this same, uh, vein, Elizabeth Warren, the pander queen sent out a tweet yesterday,

00:18:15.840 uh, reacting to a proposed bill in Arizona. The bill in Arizona would require that

00:18:20.620 males, uh, play sports against other males, and it would ban males from playing on female sport teams.

00:18:28.920 Elizabeth Warren reacted to it saying, trans athletes are not a threat. We need to protect

00:18:33.560 trans kids and all LGBTQ plus kids and ensure they feel safe and welcome at school. I urge the Arizona

00:18:39.960 legislator to reject this cruel bill. This is, is just cynical, dishonest, stupid nonsense.

00:18:50.620 Elizabeth Warren knows damn well. This has nothing to do with, with, uh, the safety of trans kids

00:19:00.460 or, or any, or anything or trans kids being quote a threat. That's not the point. Everybody agrees 0.89

00:19:07.700 that all kids should be welcome at school. All kids should feel safe at school. That's our point.

00:19:15.020 Our point is that when you put men on the, when you put boys on the girls teams, not to mention the

00:19:22.860 girls locker rooms and bathrooms, now the girls are being made to feel unsafe and unwelcome. And like 1.00

00:19:29.260 they don't belong in their own areas and their own spaces. That's our point. You see, here's the,

00:19:37.920 and this is the way I think it should be framed. Um, when you've got them, uh, we've got a small

00:19:46.000 minority of males who are demanding access to female sports, female locker rooms, female bathrooms. 0.98

00:19:53.920 And they say that they will be emotionally traumatized if they don't, if they are not granted

00:19:59.400 that access, they say even that they feel unsafe if they're not given that access. Okay. On the other

00:20:07.500 hand, you've got a much greater number of actual biological females who say they don't want men in 1.00

00:20:14.980 these spaces because, uh, they feel emotionally, uh, vulnerable when that access is granted, they feel

00:20:27.080 unsafe and they feel like their privacy is being taken away. Here's the point. We've got two competing

00:20:33.700 claims being made. In essence, somebody has to win and somebody has to lose. We've got the small

00:20:41.380 minority of males and we've got the majority of females. One of these groups, we're going to have 0.75

00:20:47.560 to say to them, sorry, SOL, you're out of luck. You got to just deal with it. We have to say that to

00:20:55.860 one of these groups. Now, let me ask feminists, Elizabeth Warren, who are you going to say it to? 1.00

00:21:03.880 You're really going to say it to the females? You're saying in this, in this competing, uh,

00:21:08.460 in this competition, you're going to put the emotional needs of the men over that of the,

00:21:16.120 of the women. Is that what you're saying? Well, that is what you're saying, but, and fine,

00:21:20.940 go ahead and say it and make that case. But that is in fact the case that you're making and, and then

00:21:26.440 don't claim to be a feminist at the same time, because if that's feminism, then the word really 1.00

00:21:31.300 just has no meaning anymore. Okay. One other thing, uh, I want to talk about today, and I'm going to

00:21:39.900 once again, take, uh, the minority position on something as I, as I so often do, uh, I want to

00:21:46.460 talk about a certain viral video clip that's been making the rounds online. Uh, and I don't want

00:21:52.040 to play the video itself because given my position on this, it would be rather contradictory for me to

00:21:56.780 do so. So I'll just give you the gist. If you haven't seen it, there's a viral video, massively

00:22:01.820 viral. Last I saw, there was overall, I think the original video on Facebook had gotten like 300,000

00:22:07.480 plus shares alone, which is a lot. And, um, it's a video of a, of a young child with Dorfism, um,

00:22:17.580 crying, devastated, saying that he wants to kill himself because of the bullying that he suffered

00:22:24.400 in school. He's sitting in the back of, I guess, appears to be his mom's car and his mom is filming

00:22:30.700 him and filming it for Facebook live, talking about her son being bullied. And the child, as I said,

00:22:36.380 has just wrecked, uh, talking about killing himself and he's nine years old. Right now,

00:22:43.480 obviously for a child, uh, that age to be having thoughts like that for any person to be having

00:22:49.540 suicidal thoughts is terrible. But for a child that age, you know, at nine years old to be thinking

00:22:54.760 about that is, is, is unimaginable. My oldest kids are not too much younger than, than this kid.

00:23:00.600 And I simply cannot fathom ever hearing them say they want to kill themselves.

00:23:07.280 So like any person with a soul, right? When I saw this video, I felt a very deep mix of sadness

00:23:16.100 and anger at the bullies and, and, and many other emotions because it's just, it's just so,

00:23:20.180 it's so terrible and it really gets to you. Now, as often happens, because this video went viral,

00:23:27.420 celebrities have gotten in on the action. Hugh Jackman sent out a video to the kid supporting him.

00:23:31.580 The child is, is Australian and, and Hugh Jackman's Australian. So I guess he felt

00:23:35.980 especially called to respond, which is, which is great. And then of course, uh, someone started a,

00:23:41.240 a GoFundMe, uh, uh, campaign as, as always happens with these things. And now they're going to send

00:23:49.600 the kid to Disney world with the money, the GoFundMe account earned many thousands of dollars in just a

00:23:54.600 few hours. Okay. So all that is, is nice, but I also have another thought and it's the same thought

00:24:02.100 I have every time I see stuff like this online. And I don't understand why more people don't have

00:24:08.380 this thought, or maybe they do. It's just, they don't feel, they don't feel secure in, in, in saying

00:24:13.820 so because they're afraid they're going to get shouted down by everybody. And that is this, what

00:24:19.640 kind of parent records their child during such an emotionally vulnerable moment and puts it online

00:24:26.900 for public consumption? You know, and I don't want to hear about raising awareness.

00:24:34.460 What kind of parent uses their child's emotional trauma for awareness?

00:24:42.360 Is that really your first thought when, when your child is emotionally devastated by something? Your

00:24:49.020 first thought is, oh, this would be great for an awareness campaign. What, what kind of parent thinks

00:24:54.700 like that? And what right do you have as a parent to decide for your child that their most intimate

00:25:02.480 and devastating moments are going to be shared and consumed by millions? What right do you have to

00:25:10.760 decide that this is going to be a public spectacle? 10 years from now, let's think about this.

00:25:20.040 This child, nine years old, 10 years from now, he's 19. He's a grown adult.

00:25:23.080 Do you think he's going to be happy that the time when he threatened to kill himself at the age of nine

00:25:28.400 is documented and online and has been seen by millions of people?

00:25:34.440 Do you think he's, he's, he's really signing onto that? You think he understands what he's signing

00:25:39.800 on for? If he even did sign on for it? And don't tell me that he agreed to be filmed because first of

00:25:46.720 all, we don't know if he did. And even if he did, he's nine. He has no clue what he's agreeing to or

00:25:52.360 what it means or how any of this works. That's what a parent is supposed to be there for.

00:25:59.140 So I'm trying to figure this out because as a parent, I have, I've had difficult moments with

00:26:03.480 my kids. Nothing, nothing quite like this, thank God. But I've had, there have been times when they've

00:26:09.680 been very upset about things and, uh, and I've, I've been in the position of consoling them and

00:26:13.980 comforting them like all parents do. It has never occurred to me to pull out my phone and stick it

00:26:22.300 in their face and then put it on Facebook. I can't imagine how that would occur to you.

00:26:31.960 I mean, that thought process needs to actually, your, your kids sitting there crying, inconsolable.

00:26:37.620 And so you have to think to yourself, Oh, hold on a second. Let me get my phone. Let me get this on.

00:26:41.240 Let me get, let me get this on tape. Not everything has to be done in public. Not everything is

00:26:47.460 everybody's business. Let your child have privacy. Not to mention there are a lot of very cruel trolls 0.98

00:26:55.940 online also. So even more so than in school, people online are even worse than they are in school.

00:27:01.440 And now you're opening your, your bullied child up to more bullying. In fact, when I saw this video,

00:27:07.600 uh, whoever shared it on Twitter, the, the, on, on this particular share, you know, I was looking

00:27:15.460 at the comments, the very first comment under the video was somebody making fun of the child's

00:27:21.740 appearance. Now, clearly to be an adult or anyone making fun of a child's appearance at all, especially

00:27:29.400 in this circumstance, that makes you scum. I mean, you are a human scum. You're, you're the worst of the

00:27:34.680 worst, but there are a lot of scumbags on the internet. And there are a lot of people who say

00:27:42.120 terrible, terrible things about kids even. I mean, there, there are many people on the internet,

00:27:47.880 which is to say there are many people in real life, unfortunately, who, uh, have no compunction at

00:27:54.420 all about anything and have no problem saying the worst things about other people.

00:28:02.680 So your child has already been the victim of ridicule and now you're putting them up for more

00:28:08.960 of it. Who does that? Now the, the justification I've heard is that, well, this mother was at the end

00:28:21.700 of a rope and she didn't know what else to do. There was no other solution. And so this is what

00:28:26.220 she did. What, how is this a solution? I don't understand as a parent, you know, I understand

00:28:34.460 being a parent and feeling like you're at the end of the rope and there's a, there's a certain

00:28:37.960 problem you're dealing with and you don't know how else to solve it. And you're not sure what the

00:28:41.560 solution is. I understand that, but why does that translate to, oh, well, might as well make a viral

00:28:47.140 video, might as well get the mob involved, might as well, might as well put it on Facebook.

00:28:53.440 How is that a solution? Like if you're at the end of your rope with something like this,

00:28:58.880 then I can understand maybe you pull them out, you, you, you put, you find a different school. You,

00:29:02.720 you, I mean, you go into the school, you, you, you kick the damn doors down to find these punk kids

00:29:07.600 that are, that are bullying your son. I mean, there are, there are a lot of things I could see a

00:29:11.820 desperate parent doing, but, but, but pulling out your freaking phone and sticking it in your kid's 0.95

00:29:17.160 face and then putting it online. I don't see that as a solution. And I don't see how a loving parent

00:29:25.900 would ever, ever, ever could even consider that quote solution.

00:29:34.120 You know, internet mobs, I have a lot of experience dealing with internet mobs.

00:29:38.800 They don't solve anything. Okay. You don't go to internet mobs for solutions. That's not what they

00:29:46.060 do. There are three things you can get out of an internet mob, fame, shame, money. Those are the

00:29:54.560 three things. Those are the only three things an internet mob can do for you. Fame, shame, and money.

00:30:01.860 Okay. Well, so this mother has gotten money out of the mob. I'm not going to say that that was her 1.00

00:30:07.340 number one reason why she did it. Or, you know, I'm not going to say that. It certainly seems like

00:30:12.840 that's possible. I mean, there are parents who exploit their children for internet fame so that

00:30:18.060 they can then get the GoFundMe money and all that. That does happen. It certainly seems like that's

00:30:23.040 what's happening here. I don't know. And they got some fame out of it too. So yeah, you got fame and

00:30:30.520 money out of it. And I guess some shame for the bullies. How does that solve anything? Yes,

00:30:37.420 the child will go to Disney World. Great. And he'll have a nice time. And that's, that is awesome.

00:30:41.500 Okay. So I, I, and I'm sure that will be helpful, but it's not going to stop the bullying.

00:30:48.180 It's, it's a momentary thing. It's going to give, it's, it's a momentary boost at most that the kid

00:30:54.800 will get out of this. He goes to Disney World, he gets the, he sees the nice video messages from

00:31:00.320 celebrities. You get a momentary boost out of that. It's not going to stop the bully. In fact,

00:31:06.720 it only makes it worse because now you've added more bullies into the mix and the bullies who

00:31:11.620 were already bullying the child, you think they're going to stop now? You think, you think a bunch of

00:31:17.280 nine and 10 year old kids are going to stop bullying because they see this kid on, on the news now

00:31:23.620 crying about being bullied. That's not how bullies work. Okay. The bullies aren't going to see the, 0.99

00:31:30.820 the segment on, on, on the today show and think, Oh gee, you know, we really, we really screwed up on

00:31:36.500 this one. Uh, yeah, we, we, we, it was really inappropriate. We shouldn't know they're going to

00:31:41.000 see the kid crying and they're going to make fun of him more for it because that's how little,

00:31:46.260 that's how kids work and bullies, especially. So you get a momentary boost, you get money,

00:31:52.860 does absolutely nothing whatsoever to stop the bullying, does absolutely nothing whatsoever to

00:31:59.160 address the, the, the deeper things internally that are happening with your child that are making

00:32:03.560 him think about hurting himself. And, uh, in exchange for that momentary boost, now you have put this

00:32:10.880 online forever for everyone to see. And for the rest of your child's life, he is going to be known as

00:32:20.840 the kid in that video. Who's said those, you know, really sad and horrible things.

00:32:28.860 And you have made that decision for your kid. You have decided for your kid that that's what his

00:32:33.780 life is going to be. Or at a minimum that this video and this incident is going to be a big part

00:32:40.460 of his life from here on forward. You have decided that for him. You have no right.

00:32:43.720 Your kid is not your, your intellectual property that you can just use for, for, for clicks and views.

00:32:56.260 I get so sick of this. It's like, it's not even human. You've got these parents that are barely

00:33:00.820 freaking human that they would look at their kids this way. What do you need the attention for?

00:33:07.960 Great. You got a bunch of shares. Who gives a damn? What does that do for you as a parent?

00:33:16.180 Leave your kids out of it. Let your kids have a life. Just let them exist. Let them have some privacy. 0.83

00:33:23.080 Let them have an emotional moment on their own without you sticking a camera in their face.

00:33:28.720 Yeah. You, you, you see a moment and you know that, oh, this would be a, this, this would get a

00:33:35.340 ton of hits. So what? Is that what it's about?

00:33:43.620 Honestly, I think the same thing with, uh, I probably should stop before I get myself into

00:33:47.240 trouble, into even more trouble. But I say, I think the same damn thing about parents.

00:33:52.660 Even when I see these viral videos of happy moments with kids, uh, you know, of, of intimate

00:34:01.680 personal, but happy moments many times, even with that, I think, why did you need to put it online?

00:34:09.420 I don't understand why you needed to do that. Even something like, forgive me, but even, even these,

00:34:16.620 these, these, these, uh, very nice videos of, you know, things like a child finds out on Christmas

00:34:23.080 that their stepfather is going to adopt them and, you know, and, and, and opens the, the,

00:34:27.680 the gift and season is very, very, very, it's, it's very happy. I mean, I feel, I feel great for

00:34:32.000 the kid. I feel great for the family. It's a wonderful thing. Why did you need to put it on,

00:34:37.560 on the internet though? It's a very personal moment. Why couldn't you just have that moment with

00:34:44.560 your family and cherish it? And, and you have it as a memory. If you want to film it for your own

00:34:50.060 benefit so that you can look back on it later and remember it, then fine. But you don't even really

00:34:55.620 need to do that because you have the memory. You have the moment. It's part of your life now.

00:34:59.840 Why does it do 10 million people need to see it? Give me one good reason why they need to see it.

00:35:05.240 All right. And I say this as someone who is on, I, I spend my whole, my, I spend my whole life on

00:35:17.180 the internet. Okay. So I, you know, I, I, I get it. I get, I understand the, the desire people have to

00:35:27.680 find content and put it on the internet and, you know, but we shouldn't be using our kids for that.

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The Matt Walsh Show - February 21, 2020

Ep. 430 - Lie Or Be Fired

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