The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 432 - Church of Cowards

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the show, friends, neighbors, comrades. Today is my new book, Church of Cowards,

00:00:04.880 which you can see displayed very tactfully and subtly beside me, is finally released.

00:00:10.900 And I want to talk about why I wrote it and what problem I hope it addresses. Also,

00:00:17.040 the issue of student loan debt is center stage in many ways this campaign sees. I think it's

00:00:21.580 one of the central issues of the 2020 election. And it's central to the rise of Bernie Sanders.

00:00:27.180 So I want to discuss that. And specifically, one of the biggest villains in the story of student

00:00:35.400 debt, one group that is among the most responsible for driving the crisis, yet has escaped somehow,

00:00:41.600 for the most part, the public's wrath. So I want to draw attention to that group and talk about that.

00:00:46.680 Also, we'll do a roundup of five other news headlines worth knowing about. And a surprising

00:00:51.300 person today must be canceled on the show. I have to cancel someone who I, it brings me no

00:00:57.080 joy at all to cancel them, but I must do it. And we'll get to all of that coming up. But first,

00:01:01.580 let's check with AncestryDNA. You know, there are many paths to finding your family story,

00:01:06.860 whichever way you choose, tracing your family generation, generations back with a family tree,

00:01:11.420 or uncovering your ethnicity with AncestryDNA. It's easy to get started with Ancestry. And that's

00:01:16.540 one of the things I want to highlight is just how easy this is to do. I know when I did it,

00:01:20.560 it seemed kind of daunting at first. I thought it'd be a whole complicated process. It's really not.

00:01:24.360 It's very quick and easy to do. And then, you know, AncestryDNA, it tells you where your ancestors

00:01:30.140 are from. And also, billions of records and millions of family trees let you discover their

00:01:37.380 personal stories. So it's not just about the geographic locations, although that's a very

00:01:41.720 interesting part of this. It's also about their stories and who they were and what they were like.

00:01:46.540 So you could find out you have an infamous relative, or you could, you know, find a photo of

00:01:51.240 your great-great-grandmother as a little girl. Many, many possibilities. Whatever you find,

00:01:56.540 it's sure to change the whole way you look at your family history and also yourself. AncestryDNA can

00:02:02.000 reveal ethnic origins. They can provide historical details that bring unique family stories to life.

00:02:07.400 And that was my experience with it. As I said, a very easy process. And it's just been fascinating to

00:02:16.720 see, kind of discover more about who I am. And what I've discovered is that, and I think this is what

00:02:20.740 everyone finds out, is that your family history is much more interesting and complicated and diverse

00:02:27.160 than you ever expected. That certainly has been my experience. So you could start exploring your

00:02:32.180 family story today. Head to my URL at Ancestry.com slash Matt to get your AncestryDNA kit and start your

00:02:38.740 free trial. That's Ancestry.com slash Matt. Ancestry.com slash Matt. Okay, my book, Church of Cowards,

00:02:46.620 released today. That is my second book. And I can tell you that after two books, I very much relate

00:02:53.160 to, I think it was a quote from Dorothy Parker originally, who said, I hate writing, but I love

00:02:58.940 having written. And that's very much my feeling on the day of a book release. It's a feeling of,

00:03:03.820 I'm so glad that's over. And to be perfectly honest with you, this book I found especially

00:03:10.080 difficult to write in some ways. And the reason is that it's an emotionally draining topic. One that

00:03:17.540 I think we all may prefer at times to turn away from and ignore, but we can't. As Christians, we can't

00:03:24.340 do that. We have to face it. And that's why I wrote the book. And I hope you'll go to Amazon and buy it.

00:03:30.140 Or, you know, if you're old fashioned, you can go to an actual bookstore and pick up a physical copy

00:03:34.500 there and buy it that way as well. Now I call this book, Church of Cowards, A Wake Up Call to

00:03:39.400 Complacent Christians, because I believe that cowardice and complacency is the cancer, the poison 1.00

00:03:46.520 that has seeped into the church in America. Now you compare our situation to that of Christians in so 0.98

00:03:54.180 many other parts of the world, especially in the Middle East, parts of Africa, parts of Asia,

00:03:58.760 America, particularly North Korea, places like that. In those regions, Christians are directly, 1.00

00:04:06.760 violently, bloodily persecuted, killed, martyred, thrown into concentration camps in a place like 0.62

00:04:13.300 North Korea. And yet, yet the faith itself, for those who remain alive and free, the faith is

00:04:21.460 vibrant and strong and surviving, persisting. Christians in those countries really believe,

00:04:29.460 it seems. Here, though, you know, we're under no real threat of violence, no threat of that kind of

00:04:38.620 direct violent persecution. You can go to church on Sunday with minimal concern, perhaps not no concern,

00:04:44.000 but minimal, that your physical safety and the safety of your family will be in jeopardy. And you

00:04:50.400 can live your life as a Christian, go about your day, generally speaking, proclaim your faith. You

00:04:54.380 can shout it from the rooftop if you want. And for the most part, the most you're going to face, at worst,

00:05:00.340 is snide remarks, maybe, from strangers, insults. Maybe some frowny face emojis will be tossed in your

00:05:08.240 direction on Facebook. And yet, in this country, people are leaving the faith in droves.

00:05:16.960 Our, you know, the situation is worse, really, than the statistics would show.

00:05:23.100 Because if you look at the statistics, you'll find that the percentage of Christians has dropped over

00:05:29.140 the years. But it will say, depending on what you, where you look, it'll say that there are, what,

00:05:33.060 80%, you know, 80% or something of the American population is still Christian. Well, that's a 1.00

00:05:39.980 smaller number than it was before. But even that number, I think we all know, is not accurate. It's

00:05:45.840 not really 80%. Not really 80% of people who are truly believing Christians on fire with the faith,

00:05:54.480 right? But if you do look at the polls and the surveys, and I cite a number of them in the book,

00:05:59.520 you see that increasing numbers of Christians are denying basic doctrinal tenets of Christianity.

00:06:08.520 We see that our children, the younger generation, they're not remaining in the faith. They're

00:06:15.060 leaving, oftentimes around college age. Now, why should we, in our comfort and our luxury, be falling

00:06:21.980 apart as a church, while the Christian communities that have every external reason to fall apart 0.99

00:06:28.640 or not? Well, I think it comes down to complacency. We're sort of drifting along.

00:06:36.620 We don't have to think much about our faith, about religion, about our mortality. We don't have to

00:06:43.920 make sacrifices. You know, Christ says, pick up your cross and follow me. But we feel like we don't

00:06:48.860 have to. Why should we? Because life is comfortable. Life is supposed to be comfortable, we believe.

00:06:53.760 And, you know, I'd rather just, I'd rather leave the cross outside, go inside and watch Netflix or 0.99

00:07:00.600 something. And so there's a spiritual atrophy that happens. Now, many leaders of the church will not

00:07:07.200 jolt people out of this stupor. They're not going to call their flocks to deeper and more authentic

00:07:12.000 faith. They're not going to call their flocks to repentance because they don't want to scare people.

00:07:15.460 They don't want to upset anybody. They don't want to run against the cultural grain. They're

00:07:21.300 cowards. But their cowardice doesn't pay off on any level, really, because what they find is that 1.00

00:07:28.200 their reluctance to challenge the people that are sitting in the pews only leads to those people

00:07:32.440 being bored to death and deciding that there's really no reason for them to go to church or to

00:07:39.280 remain active in the faith or to pay attention to Christianity at all. If this is all it has to 0.93

00:07:44.360 offer, you know, there's a reason why the conservative and Orthodox churches tend to be

00:07:51.340 younger, more vibrant, bigger, healthier, more energetic, because those churches give people

00:07:58.880 a reason to come, right? They give people an experience that is distinct from the culture,

00:08:05.920 an experience that has a purpose, a direction. But of course, if you take your church in that direction,

00:08:13.200 there's going to be, there might be initially a purge that happens first. There's going to be

00:08:18.440 growing pains where first the lukewarm Christians who are in the pews are scared away. So you're going

00:08:24.060 to lose those people before you gain more. You're going to lose those people. And that's okay because

00:08:28.580 it's better for lukewarm Christians to run away, to leave, to confront who they are and what they 1.00

00:08:34.660 really believe for their own sake. As I say that we say is 80% of Christians in this country. I don't 1.00

00:08:41.500 know what the real number is. It's not 80%. What is it? 10%? 20? 5%? I'm not sure. That's a thing.

00:08:48.380 Nobody knows. But it'd be better to get down to that core so we know where we stand as a church.

00:08:56.660 And then we can build from there. Now, I go into detail about these issues in the book. I also offer

00:09:01.640 what I think is a prescription, part of a solution. And that takes me many pages to explain, so you'll

00:09:08.740 have to read it. But I will say that it begins with, I think, us as Christians calling each other and

00:09:15.100 calling ourselves to a faith that is active, that is lived, that's authentic, that's distinct,

00:09:20.880 that's noticeable to the outside world. Because to believe, and I have a whole chapter on this in

00:09:28.860 the book, to believe in Jesus, you know, part of the problem is we, I think we have our concept of

00:09:38.240 what that even means in the West is very superficial. I think to believe in Jesus is not just an

00:09:47.120 intellectual proposition. It's not merely an assent to a fact. It's not just saying,

00:09:55.840 yes, Jesus is God. I agree with that statement. That's not faith. That's agreement. That's

00:10:01.380 acknowledgement. Is that all we're meant to do is just acknowledge something and say, sure, yeah,

00:10:06.500 yeah, okay. Yeah, I believe that. Yeah, okay. Fine. I think faith is lived. Faith is something that

00:10:12.720 we do. It's an act. It's like love. You know, you love your spouse. And I think we would all agree,

00:10:24.160 we say we love our spouses. It's not merely something we feel, even less is it a fact that

00:10:30.640 we acknowledge. Yes, we acknowledge them. We know they exist, but that's not what loving them means.

00:10:36.320 It's something that we do. It's a sacrifice that we make. It's a daily task. And the doing,

00:10:43.180 the acting, the living, it's not that you prove your love that way. That's not what it is. It's

00:10:48.060 that you love that way. That's how you do it. That's what love is. And I think love for God is

00:10:54.260 the same. Faith is the same. It's not something that you can entirely do while lying on your couch

00:11:00.100 covered in Cheetos dust at all hours of the day. So this is a call to an active, lived public faith.

00:11:11.080 And that's really just the beginning of it. I talk in the book also about the concept of repentance.

00:11:15.860 I talk about as Christians, our interaction with the culture and the need to balance being in the

00:11:20.280 culture with protecting ourselves from its temptations. I talk about, you know, the reality

00:11:25.380 of evil. I talk about virtue, false virtues that are often sold in the modern church versus real

00:11:30.700 virtues and many other things as well. Church of cowards, go buy it right now, I demand. Okay. 0.96

00:11:39.000 So next we're going to discuss student loans. And as I said, the villain in the story that often

00:11:45.200 escapes our wrath. But first let's run through a little lightning round of other headlines worth

00:11:50.220 knowing about to get you up to speed. Number one, we got five stories here. Number one,

00:11:55.360 at a town hall yesterday, Bernie Sanders was asked about the fact that he's an old geezer.

00:12:00.680 A person in the audience wanted to know if he's going to pick a running mate because, you know,

00:12:05.840 he's going to die soon. That wasn't directly said, but that's of course the implications. And

00:12:11.880 Bernie had an interesting response. This is what he said.

00:12:16.060 And yes, the answer is we will do that. But it's a little bit presumptuous right now. I will tell you

00:12:22.260 one thing though, uh, you know, is, uh, that person will not be an old white guy that I can say

00:12:28.120 definitively. Okay. Now here's, here's a, here's a question nobody in the media will ever ask.

00:12:35.820 Hey, Bernie, if you have a problem with old white guys and you think old white guys shouldn't be in 0.61

00:12:40.840 power, then why don't you an old white guy drop out and throw your support behind someone who is not 0.90

00:12:47.780 an old white guy? I mean, how do you, an old white guy justified trying to prevent a woman 0.97

00:12:53.080 or a younger person or a minority from becoming president? Because that's what you're doing.

00:12:59.060 You right now, Bernie Sanders, you say, I'm not going to have an old white vice president. Okay. 0.64

00:13:03.940 But you are right now actively trying to prevent a woman from becoming president. I mean, Elizabeth 0.92

00:13:09.780 Warren's a woman and she even has all the same ideas you do. You're trying to prevent her.

00:13:14.840 How do you explain that? Uh, but of course that question will never be asked precisely because

00:13:21.240 there's no good answer that Bernie could provide. And so the media is not going to

00:13:24.680 ask it. Number two, a website called the recount.com has put together an interesting compilation,

00:13:30.500 which, which, which seems to give more ammunition to those who claim

00:13:33.840 that Pete Buttigieg is trying to be the white Obama. Look at this.

00:13:37.520 The way we do every other election by giving it to the person who got the most votes.

00:13:40.920 Just a thought brings us together. This country, this country was built and there's a movement

00:13:47.320 reaching in and church basements and barbershops and universities and with our kids. And if we can

00:13:53.000 change the world, then we can chip a city shining as a beacon around the world once more.

00:13:58.520 And this is our chance to answer that call. Now, when Pete releases his birth certificate to prove that

00:14:04.200 he wasn't born in Kenya, then we're really going to know that this is a copycat situation. Number three,

00:14:09.160 Harvey, Harvey, Harvey Weinstein has been found guilty on two counts, rape and a criminal sex

00:14:14.840 act. So he faces five to 29 years in prison. Now I've seen some media people congratulating

00:14:21.560 themselves for all the good work the media did in exposing Harvey Weinstein. This is the,

00:14:28.120 the level of self-awareness that the media has. They were the ones who refused to report

00:14:34.360 on Weinstein's predatory behavior for decades, literally decades. Remember it was an open

00:14:40.040 secret. Everybody knew. So he's going to jail now, but he should have went to jail years and years ago.

00:14:46.920 And if he had, uh, there, there are many women who were victimized who would not have been

00:14:50.840 Hollywood protected him. The media protected him. Let's not forget that. Number four, Pixar has a new

00:14:57.320 movie coming out. Uh, this one is called onward comes out. I think this weekend, maybe next weekend.

00:15:02.920 It's about, from what I can tell from a previous, it's about two trolls who have to bring their dad's

00:15:08.920 legs to a magical wizard or something so that they can retrieve his torso and the rest of him.

00:15:15.480 That is actually the plot of the movie or something like that. It's unique. At least I'll give them that.

00:15:21.960 But Pixar is a, here's the not so unique part. They're really going for the woke points on this

00:15:26.120 one because this film will feature Pixar's first ever lesbian. There's going to be a lesbian, uh, 1.00

00:15:31.080 character and we're told that her lesbianism will be made explicitly clear.

00:15:36.520 Hopefully not too explicit. This is a kid's movie after all, but you never know these days.

00:15:41.720 I will never understand this idea, this claim that there aren't enough gay characters in movies and

00:15:47.080 on TV. So we have to keep adding them in. And every time we do, there's cause for celebration.

00:15:51.720 You know, it seems to me based on my own, you know, anecdotal experience from what I've seen,

00:15:58.280 there's a gay character on almost every TV show now. And every year there are movies about gay

00:16:04.600 love affairs that are getting awards and so on and so on. So how much of this do we need before we can

00:16:09.560 say that gay people are represented? Is it, is it, is it enough yet? Can we officially say they've

00:16:14.440 been represented or do we need, I'm just, what exactly is the, is the quota we're shooting for?

00:16:19.240 That's my only question. Uh, finally five scientists have discovered the first known

00:16:26.360 animal that doesn't breathe, uh, which, which I find very interesting. It has no respiratory genes at

00:16:32.120 all, which sets us apart, sets it apart from every other multicellular organism that we're aware of.

00:16:37.480 Uh, this creature is according to live science.com, a gelatinous parasitic blob.

00:16:45.240 So anyway, I'm surprised to find out that Michael Moore doesn't have lungs. It's, um,

00:16:51.240 that was a cheap shot, but honestly, his, his name was the first one that popped into my head

00:16:54.920 when I read gelatinous parasitic blob. It's not my fault and no offense intent, no offense,

00:16:59.800 no offense. But, uh, that's just the first thing that popped into my head. All right. Um,

00:17:05.320 now I want to talk about, as, as I said, this, this student loan issue.

00:17:09.000 Um, there are many villains in the story of, of the student debt bubble.

00:17:22.040 The universities that charge exorbitant tuition rates simply because they can bilking working 0.61

00:17:27.640 families out of thousands of dollars for an education that isn't worth even a fraction of

00:17:31.640 that cost. Uh, they should be first in line to absorb the blame. And it seems like

00:17:37.080 somehow they're not, at least when you listen to somebody like Bernie Sanders talk about it,

00:17:42.440 he's not pointing so much to the universities themselves

00:17:45.000 because you know, on the far left, you don't want to upset academia. We, we, we, because we want to,

00:17:50.920 to, to trust, to trust academia. So I, but I think they're first in line. I'd blame them first,

00:17:56.680 but it's a long line. Indeed. The government has earned a hefty portion of our collective scoring for

00:18:02.440 issuing these predatory loans to kids fresh out of high school with no assets, no income. And then

00:18:08.680 blame goes to the public schools who are, we're funneling kids into the university system

00:18:13.880 indiscriminately, regardless of an individual kid's aptitudes and skillset, just pushing them

00:18:19.560 all into colleges. Parents as well are, are adding to the pressure, which I'm convinced for many

00:18:24.920 parents pressuring their kids in the four year institution. It has as much to do with, with the,

00:18:30.200 the parents own vanity as it does their concern for their, for their child. I'm not saying they're

00:18:34.840 not concerned for their child, but I think part of it at least is that the parent wants to be able to

00:18:40.600 say my kid is going to such and such school. Parent doesn't want to say my kid's not in college,

00:18:48.600 but there's another group. So we can thank all of those people for the 1.5 trillion dollars in

00:18:54.760 student debt. There's another group though, that seems to have largely somehow escaped the public's

00:19:00.280 wrath, despite their unique role in driving this problem. And that would be employers. We take it for

00:19:07.240 granted that our kids need, quote unquote, to obtain a college degree because so many jobs require them,

00:19:14.840 but the need is artificial. In the vast majority of cases, thousands of employers across the country

00:19:21.800 have chosen to artificially inflate their job requirements, uh, often demanding that applicants

00:19:28.120 have, have, have degrees for positions that absolutely do not really necessitate them.

00:19:33.480 And they've chosen to do this and it's only getting worse. You know, uh, positions that didn't require

00:19:41.720 any degree 20 years ago now require a bachelor's degree and positions that required a bachelor's

00:19:46.360 degree 20 years ago now require a master's. And you know, before you know it, you're going to need to

00:19:51.000 have a PhD to be a sales associate at a JC Penney. This again is, is artificial. People without degrees 1.00

00:20:02.680 could perform the tasks necessary for most of these positions, but employers disqualify them from

00:20:08.200 consideration right out of the gate and for no good reason. Now, obviously, and every time I talk about

00:20:13.960 this there, I, I, I, I hear from people saying, what about doctors and lawyers? And yes, obviously,

00:20:20.760 some jobs do require additional formal schooling, but not every job does. And not even most jobs.

00:20:27.320 Nobody is suggesting that a guy with a high school diploma should be hired right off the street by Johns

00:20:31.560 Hopkins to perform brain surgery. No one is suggesting that, but most jobs outside of science and medicine

00:20:37.800 have to be learned by doing, you know, uh, the, the vast majority of people who right now have a job,

00:20:45.400 any job outside of science and medicine, almost everything they're doing right now. I mean, including

00:20:53.320 you, if you're listening to this and you have a job and that is not that it's not in the science and

00:20:56.680 medicine field. Most likely, if you think about it, everything you do in your job, you learned how to do

00:21:02.600 in the job itself. Or these were skills that you brought in, um, uh, on your own that had nothing to do with

00:21:13.000 schooling whatsoever. That's how most jobs are learned. They're learned by doing. Now, it's not as though

00:21:20.920 one excuse you hear is, well, companies are saving money on, on having to try train new hires by requiring the

00:21:28.520 the college degree. And so this is about saving money. That's not the case. The companies still

00:21:33.320 have to train the college graduates. You know, these employers are discovering to their shock somehow

00:21:39.160 that, you know, when, when, uh, when, when someone comes in at the age of 23 and they've been in a

00:21:43.880 classroom their whole life and haven't done anything, you still have to train them just as much as you

00:21:49.240 would have to train someone without a college degree. So what's the point of the degree? It serves no purpose, no function.

00:21:58.520 Um, now it might be argued that employers look for the degree because even if the degree is in dance

00:22:06.920 theory or comparative religion, it at least proves that the applicant is competent and hardworking

00:22:14.040 and so on. Well, you know, I, I would like to see some research, research supporting that assumption

00:22:19.960 because I don't believe it. I see no reason to conclude that college grads are any smarter,

00:22:25.160 any more competent, any harder working than non-college grads. I understand that that's 1.00

00:22:31.400 maybe the assumption that employers are making. I'm saying it's a bad assumption. I'm saying it's

00:22:35.480 an assumption based on nothing. In fact, I would wager that the scales probably tip the other way

00:22:42.280 because a 23 year old who's been working and supporting himself since the age of 18 has already

00:22:47.640 demonstrated at a minimum that he has the basic life skills necessary to be a functioning adult in

00:22:52.440 society. There are many college grads who don't even have that because if you graduate college

00:22:58.760 with a, with a, with a bachelor's degree, congratulations, not taking anything away from you,

00:23:05.160 but it doesn't prove that you know how to do anything. It doesn't prove you have any skills at

00:23:09.480 all. It doesn't prove that you're a functioning adult. It doesn't really prove anything.

00:23:14.360 You know, what it proves in and of itself, in and of itself, all the degree, if you tell me,

00:23:21.880 if the only information I have about someone is they have a college degree, you tell me that,

00:23:25.400 you know, Bob Smith has a college degree. What does that tell you about Bob Smith?

00:23:32.120 The only thing it tells you is that he either had the money to get a college education or he was willing

00:23:38.760 to take on the debt. That's the only thing it tells you. Now it might be that Bob Smith is a brilliant

00:23:44.280 guy, a hard worker, so on and so forth. What I'm saying though, is that the fact of the degree doesn't

00:23:49.080 tell you that. You got to look deeper into who Bob Smith is. But if we're looking deeper into who

00:23:54.600 people are, then why can't you do that with non-college grads? Well, we all know the truth.

00:24:01.560 I think employers demand the high price degrees for entry level positions, entry level positions

00:24:09.000 that in many cases, a moderately intelligent monkey could learn in less than a week.

00:24:14.040 The reason why they, they require it is that it's, it's just out of laziness.

00:24:18.920 The degree requirement is a way to call the herd of applicants to whittle things down a little bit,

00:24:23.400 making it easier to sift through. It's just, you know, it's all, it's just, it's just sort of,

00:24:27.420 you got a stack of a hundred applications or resumes and you just, you, you toss 50 of them

00:24:33.100 out just because it's hard to go through a hundred. You'd rather go through 50. And,

00:24:37.980 and that's basically the reason that's why these, these employers do it. If qualified applicants are

00:24:43.820 tossed to the side, that's a sacrifice the employer is willing to make for the sake of

00:24:47.500 streamlining the process. But if it wasn't for the demands of these lazy, the arbitrary demands of

00:24:54.620 these lazy HR departments who don't feel like doing their jobs, don't feel like actually evaluating

00:25:00.620 applicants based on the individual merits of the people who are coming in for the job,

00:25:07.180 if it wasn't for that, kids out of high school may not feel the need to take on crushing debt just

00:25:12.540 to obtain a piece of paper that may only ever function as a symbolic calling card that prevents

00:25:18.140 their resume from automatically being thrown in the trash. It's crazy. It's crazy that we,

00:25:23.180 that we tolerate this as a society, that we just take it for granted that this is the way it is.

00:25:29.980 Perhaps the companies that unjustly discriminate against competent workers who lack a piece of paper

00:25:36.460 should finally start absorbing some of the scorn and the blame that we directed everybody except them.

00:25:42.220 Now, yes, they have every right to come up with whatever unnecessary and expensive job requirements

00:25:48.060 they want, but, but they deserve to be named and shamed for it. They should have to explain, you know,

00:25:55.020 these companies that are requiring degrees for jobs that will 100% be learned on the job regardless,

00:26:04.460 they should have to explain why they're doing that. They should have to give us a good reason.

00:26:08.620 I don't think they can. They can't. It's pure laziness. And as I said, we accept it because

00:26:18.540 that's just the way it is. We say that's the way it's always been. That's the, it's not the way it's

00:26:23.260 always been. This is a very new thing that we've decided. It's very new, very recent in modern history.

00:26:29.820 We've decided that if you want to get a basic job that, that anyone could do, you need, you first

00:26:36.700 need, uh, you know, uh, uh, four years at a, at a university and you need to spend $90,000 on a

00:26:43.260 degree. That's, that's, it's, it's not always been this way. There's no reason why it needs to be this

00:26:48.060 way. We've just decided that it will be. And, uh, I think we should probably make other decisions.

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00:28:02.640 And now, um, it's time for our daily cancellation. And today, uh, I'm, I'm afraid that I have to cancel

00:28:10.200 someone and I have to cancel myself. Um, I am canceled and I wish I didn't have to be canceled,

00:28:18.700 especially on the day that my book comes out. It's not, not a, not a very advantageous time,

00:28:22.660 but I have no choice. There's of course, a list of reasons, five light years long for why I should

00:28:28.240 be canceled. And I have been canceled time and time again. The reason this time though, is that, um,

00:28:34.420 this weekend for the second time in as many weeks, I managed to dump a whole cup of coffee

00:28:41.140 in a Starbucks, a whole venti cup of coffee dumped on the ground, splattered everywhere,

00:28:49.460 everywhere. If you ever, if you've ever spilled something in public, you know, that somehow it

00:28:53.040 manages, it's like defies the laws of physics and you dump it and in a hundred feet away, there's,

00:28:59.800 there's, there's splatters still. So it's, that's what I did. Um, and in fact, I have,

00:29:04.600 this is going to sound like an exaggeration, but it's really not. I have now spilled an entire cup of

00:29:08.940 coffee in a Starbucks five times in the last year, five times. This is my fifth time doing it

00:29:13.600 all in different locations. I'm like a terrorist on a, on a, on a spilling spree all across the

00:29:18.360 Eastern seaboard. Now I'm not doing it on purpose. I am just a very clumsy and awkward person and I

00:29:24.440 have long limbs that I can't control. So I'm when I, when I walk, I'm just flailing all over the place,

00:29:29.000 knocking things over everywhere I go. I'm like a drunken Gumby basically barreling around. Although I have

00:29:34.620 to say that Starbucks, in fairness to me, Starbucks should be partially canceled as well. This is

00:29:38.380 partially their fault because part of the problem is yes, I'm a bumbling oaf. That's true. But their

00:29:44.860 tables are so small. So I'm sitting at their thumbtack size table and I've got my, my laptop

00:29:50.940 and I got the cup of coffee. I moved my laptop slightly cup knocks over. This has happened five

00:29:55.680 times already the last year. And then there's the awkward thing of, I have to go to the counter

00:30:00.420 and tell them that I spilled something. And then I always offer to clean it, but it's more symbolic

00:30:06.200 because I know that they, they can't accept my offer. So they have to send the girl out with the

00:30:09.800 mop. And then there's the even more awkward thing where I have to ask for another coffee because I

00:30:15.040 still need my coffee. Let's be real here. And then as the girl is mopping it up, I just slink out

00:30:20.240 the other door and disappear into the fog, never to be seen again. Though nothing could be worse.

00:30:28.480 I mean, that was bad enough. Nothing can be worse than the time. And this happened in the past year

00:30:32.700 also. Um, the time when I dropped a bottle of red wine in the grocery store, uh, uh, as I was,

00:30:40.300 I was going up to pay for it. I dropped it red wine everywhere. I mean, everywhere. And the guy came

00:30:48.120 up, the employee came up and, and he saw it and these were his exact words. He said, Oh my God,

00:30:52.920 just like that. You never want that reaction when you're out in public from, from anybody for any

00:30:57.900 reason. Um, and I, you know, I, I tried to, I admit, I tried to pass the buck a little bit. I

00:31:03.740 said, yeah, you know, I, I don't know what, I don't know what happened. I think the glass in your

00:31:08.900 wine bottles is kind of weak. You guys have a weak glass problem. I, you should probably look into

00:31:12.880 that. I don't know what, you know, someone could get hurt. I don't know. Well, I don't know how this

00:31:16.180 happened. It wasn't, it was not me. I mean, it just happened. And then again, I left and I never,

00:31:20.980 I never returned to the places where I spill things. Um, at this point, my options of places

00:31:25.580 where I can go has, has been severely limited. So that's why I unfortunately have to be canceled.

00:31:35.440 I don't, I don't exempt myself from the canceling and I never would do that, but I, uh, I, I,

00:31:42.720 I forge on ahead anyway, in spite of being canceled. All right, let's go to emails. We'll read a few

00:31:47.100 emails now. This is a, uh, Matt Walsh show at gmail.com. Matt Walsh show at gmail.com is the

00:31:51.540 email address. This is from Michael says, Hey Matt, as a former infantry Marine with two deployments

00:31:55.640 to the Middle East, I appreciate your commenting on that story that the commandant of the Corps

00:31:59.720 says that he has a new priorities. It's beyond dumb and is going to make the Corps more combat 0.91

00:32:06.220 ineffective. Anyway, thanks for throwing that in there. Notice you haven't been answering questions 0.98

00:32:10.520 on the show recently, but I'll ask a question. Anyway, when you rise to your rightful place as the

00:32:14.780 supreme tyrannical dictator, will you allow the Marines and other services to grow beards

00:32:18.800 while serving? Thanks, man. Love the show. Well, Michael, not only will I allow the Marines to grow

00:32:25.000 beards, but I will require it. I think this should be a requirement. I believe that the prohibition of

00:32:30.940 beards in the military is one of the great moral outrages that we currently face as a society. I also

00:32:37.500 think it puts lives at risk because everybody knows that men become more, become stronger and more 0.95

00:32:42.440 resilient as they grow their facial hair. And so I think, look, you go back to the civil war 0.60

00:32:50.040 and there were glorious facial hair styles on display. In fact, back in those days, it was

00:32:56.960 understood that one of the primary roles of the military was to promote facial hair and model new

00:33:03.420 facial hair styles. And I would like to get back to that point. So yes, absolutely. This is from Matt

00:33:10.080 says, Matt, as a fellow Matt, I have to say that you missed the mark on today's show when you stated

00:33:14.200 that 10 years from now, nearly all leftists will be arguing in favor of pedophilia. Although the

00:33:18.420 leftists are absurdly arguing that children can choose their own gender, I highly doubt that even

00:33:21.840 a significant portion of leftists will actually advocate pedophilia. Yes, you could argue that if

00:33:25.660 a five-year-old child has the mental and emotional capacity to choose his or her gender, then the

00:33:30.280 natural extension of this is that they must have enough maturity to consent to sexual activity.

00:33:34.180 However, I just don't buy it. There is no way that our society will allow things to

00:33:37.840 progress that far. Although as I type this, I realized that in 2010, I would have stated that

00:33:41.980 10 years from then, there is no way our society would be advocating that five-year-old boys could

00:33:45.840 decide that they're actually five-year-old girls. Who knows? Maybe they are that crazy. Well, Matt,

00:33:50.960 you said it yourself, 10 years ago, you could not have possibly imagined or predicted that 10 years in

00:33:55.480 the future in 2020, all leftists in the country, all of them, including, you know, in the mainstream

00:34:00.200 would Democrats, presidential candidates would be saying that three-year-old boys can choose to become

00:34:05.760 girls. You would not have predicted that. And if somebody had predicted that to you 10 years ago,

00:34:09.860 you would have thought they were crazy. And so that should be enough reason to give you pause

00:34:14.660 when I talk about this. You know, you would have reacted 10 years ago to that the way you're

00:34:20.460 reacting now when I talk about how 10 years in the future, the left's going to be advocating for

00:34:24.600 pedophilia. There's a logical progression here. I'm not issuing some kind of prophecy based on a vision

00:34:30.380 of the future I had in a dream. That's not what's happening here. I'm saying there's a logical

00:34:34.740 conclusion. If children have the emotional and psychological capacity to decide to change their

00:34:39.360 gender, if they have this capacity, even as toddlers, and if their decisions should be respected

00:34:44.100 so much and trusted so much that we even give them drugs to chemically castrate them, to aid them in

00:34:50.300 their transformation into girls, then it's not a far leap to say that they have the mental and emotional 0.97

00:34:55.760 capacity to consent to sex. If they can consent to a sex change, then why not a sex act? So yes, 0.80

00:35:06.740 10 years from now, we will be told that we need to respect the lifestyle choices of adults who have

00:35:13.140 sex with children. That's what we're going to be told. We're going to be told that children are

00:35:16.840 perfectly able to consent and that if they want to be in these relationships, we should respect it.

00:35:21.780 And it's bigotry for us to do otherwise. That's where we're headed. And unless we as a culture

00:35:30.760 revolt against this nonsense and put a stop to it. But if we let it continue on the path it's going,

00:35:37.240 that's where it goes. Finally, this is from Connor says, Matt, I read your article about blaming

00:35:41.240 employers for the debt problem. You sound like a socialist yourself. First of all, employers have

00:35:46.740 the right to make these decisions. What happened to the right of business owners? Second, it is perfectly

00:35:51.440 valid for them to focus on college graduates. They will know that college graduates at least

00:35:55.680 have basic literacy and are capable of completing tasks. Your rant was silly. Well, Connor, I never 0.99

00:36:01.800 said that employers don't have the right. Okay. So I'm talking about what is the right thing to do.

00:36:06.160 I'm not talking about what we have the right to do. This is two different concepts. So that's

00:36:10.840 completely irrelevant. Second, I need a citation needed. Okay. You say that college graduates are

00:36:16.840 going to be better able to complete tasks and they have basic literacy. Well, as far as basic

00:36:20.700 literacy, you can easily tell that. You don't need a college degree to tell that someone's

00:36:25.340 basically literate. Just by interviewing them and by looking at their resume, that should be enough to

00:36:30.460 tell you. And if you need, how about adding an additional step, an additional test? You could

00:36:35.620 even just have a brief questionnaire with essay style answers talking about why, asking applicants to

00:36:45.380 explain why they want the job or why they'd be best suited for the job. And just based on that, you can tell

00:36:53.640 that they're literate or not. And you could tell a lot about their intelligence. As far as being able to

00:36:59.740 complete tasks, well, call me crazy. But if somebody has work experience, if they've been at a job, especially

00:37:04.960 a related job for a number of years, that tells me they can complete tasks. They can do things. It tells me

00:37:10.740 more than a degree does. You know, you've got two candidates. One has been in college the last four

00:37:16.880 years. The other has been working in the working world. You're telling me that the former, the college

00:37:21.920 grad, has better proven his ability to work, to do things, to complete things? How so? You know, I mean,

00:37:32.580 if the other guy, even if the other guy has been at McDonald's for the last four years,

00:37:36.280 well, that tells me that he's reliable. He gets up and he comes to work. He's trainable. He's

00:37:41.300 teachable. There's a number of things you can tell right away. And you can also call up his boss

00:37:45.880 and ask him. So the point is, for most of these jobs, there's just no good reason to rule out

00:37:52.340 non-college grads. Plenty of them could be better suited, could be better workers than college

00:37:58.240 graduates. The only reason they're ruled out for the job is, as I said, laziness. And

00:38:05.160 I don't think that's right. I don't think that's enough of a reason. I don't think the need that

00:38:11.140 employers have to streamline a process and not put any effort into it, I don't think that's a

00:38:15.120 good enough reason to justify $1.5 trillion in student debt. That's my point. And we will leave

00:38:22.940 it there. Again, my book, Church of Cowards, is out now. Please go buy it. And I will talk to you

00:38:26.800 tomorrow. Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - February 25, 2020

Ep. 432 - Church of Cowards

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