The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 446 - Let’s Stay Quarantined Forever

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, on this St. Patrick's Day, a very strange, very strange St. Patrick's

00:00:04.940 Day in many ways, everything is shutting down. They're even shutting down the liquor stores

00:00:08.020 on St. Patrick's Day, which is sacrilege. But with everything shutting down, it's expected

00:00:13.340 that there will be a huge hit to the economy, of course. And today, I want to ask the question,

00:00:19.360 why should it be so harmful to our society and our economy that people are staying home,

00:00:24.600 spending time with their families, spending time with their kids, cooking their own meals,

00:00:27.840 educating their own kids, and so on? It is harmful to our economy. Yes, I don't deny that. But

00:00:32.380 isn't that perhaps an indication that there's a fundamental problem with the way that our system

00:00:37.300 is set up, that those sorts of very healthy activities have to be discouraged? So we'll

00:00:42.560 talk about that. Also, five headlines, including Tom Brady leaving New England to deflate footballs

00:00:47.540 elsewhere in the country, and Bernie supporters are complaining, because that's what they do best.

00:00:52.980 In this case, they're complaining about voter suppression, saying that voter suppression is

00:00:57.320 what has caused Bernie Sanders to not do so well in the primaries. But what is voter suppression?

00:01:01.920 Is it actually happening? And if it is actually happening, is it really a bad thing? I say,

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00:02:29.720 they know that we sent you. All right. So there's no question that the steps being taken by the federal

00:02:36.520 and state authorities right now to contain the coronavirus are extraordinary. Schools are closed.

00:02:41.320 Businesses are shut down. Now the federal government has issued guidelines calling for everybody in 0.71

00:02:46.480 the country to stay inside as much as they can. Avoid gatherings of over 10 people for the next 15

00:02:50.760 days. At least we'll talk more about that in the headline section. And it may well be true that these

00:02:56.600 measures will have a devastating effect on the economy for years to come. It may also be true that

00:03:03.180 they're necessary to prevent a catastrophic loss of life. It may be true that our choice right now

00:03:09.300 is between potentially destroying our economic system or potentially destroying our health care

00:03:13.900 system because it's not just about the mortality rate. It's also a matter of the capacities of our

00:03:18.640 hospitals. If everybody becomes infected in one big mass and then you've got a 10 percent

00:03:24.280 hospitalization rate, where are those people going to go? You know, it could it could lead to the

00:03:28.340 breakdown of the health care system like we're seeing in Italy and other places. So all of these

00:03:34.140 things are being weighed. Whatever the case, and however we feel about it, President Trump has

00:03:39.260 indicated that it may actually be longer than 15 days, much longer, before things can return to

00:03:45.440 normal. But here's a question that I don't see very many people asking. And that is this, should

00:03:54.160 everything return to normal? Do we actually want things to return to normal? Now in order to answer

00:04:01.200 that question, I think we have to first figure out why the temporary closure of schools and

00:04:08.400 restaurants and other businesses has the potential to cause such havoc in the first place. For most of

00:04:15.220 us, I think maybe to someone who's like an alien from outer space, who sees this going on and sees

00:04:21.340 that people have to stay inside for a few weeks. And then if they were told that this alone is going

00:04:27.720 to destroy society and destroy the economy, it might not be so obvious why that should be the

00:04:31.740 case. You know, for most of us, the self-quarantine being observed across the country, and including

00:04:38.080 in my own house, involves what? Involves, in some places, it's more extreme than this. But for most of

00:04:44.700 us, it involves basically spending more time with our families, making fewer unnecessary purchases,

00:04:51.180 teaching our kids at home rather than sending them off to government buildings for the majority of the

00:04:55.960 day. Eating meals that we cook in our kitchen rather than eating fast food. Now these practices,

00:05:04.960 it is feared, will wreak untold destruction. But these practices are also objectively good and healthy.

00:05:14.260 And while they have the potential to ravage our economy, they also have the potential to make

00:05:18.520 people happier and to give them more meaningful lives. Now, perhaps it's worth considering whether

00:05:27.100 it is good that good things like frugality and self-sufficiency should be so bad for our country.

00:05:37.240 And if it's not good that good things are bad now, then maybe we should next consider whether there's a

00:05:44.460 better way to set up a society. A way that will not cause us to break out into hives and panic

00:05:50.080 at the thought of millions of families eating dinner in their own dining rooms.

00:05:54.040 Because that's what's going on right now. People are saying, well, we can't have all these people

00:05:56.860 eating at home. The restaurants will go down. Unemployment. Which is true. I'm not minimizing

00:06:04.420 the potential human costs that might be felt here. People will lose their jobs. Working parents will have

00:06:09.340 to quit their jobs or spend exorbitant amounts of money of their, you know, exorbitant amounts of

00:06:13.320 their income, which they really need right now, especially now, on daycare to accommodate the

00:06:18.080 children who are no longer being going to school all day. Businesses will close. Nobody would suggest

00:06:23.860 that these things are in and of themselves anything less than terrible hardships. Nobody is saying that

00:06:28.500 these things in and of themselves are good. But these hardships, this is my point, these hardships are not

00:06:33.960 ultimately the result of a virus or of a government shutdown. At bottom, they're the result of the way

00:06:41.860 that we have chosen to structure society. Our economy, our lifestyles are centered around and have

00:06:49.620 been for a long time, but not have not always been throughout human history. But for us have been for

00:06:54.700 a long time structured around, centered around, dependent upon people buying lots of stuff, wasting almost

00:07:03.300 every penny they earn as soon as they earn it. The vast majority of Americans, according to a recent

00:07:08.420 study I read, the vast majority of Americans spend, you know, about 90% of their paycheck almost as soon

00:07:13.780 as they get it. But that's, we need to do that in order for the economy to work. So it's centered

00:07:21.140 around that, wasting all your money, sending your kids off to giant facilities to be taught by government

00:07:25.820 employees, not being self-sufficient, not spending very much time at home. For the system to work,

00:07:32.580 it is imperative that those who do radical things like save money, cook meals from scratch,

00:07:40.660 even grow and raise their own food, educate their own children, it is imperative that they remain in

00:07:46.760 a small minority. Because if suddenly everybody starts doing those kinds of things, or most of those

00:07:53.200 things, the system can't sustain itself. And that's what we're facing right now, is that suddenly

00:07:58.700 everybody's doing that all at once. And the system can't sustain itself. What does that tell you about

00:08:04.780 the system? I think when this is all past us, you know, we're going to be urged to run out and save

00:08:11.720 the system by spending, by going on spending sprees at Target and Best Buy and gorging ourselves on

00:08:20.140 restaurant food and fast food and shoving our kids back into their chairs behind their desks in their

00:08:25.180 classrooms in the government buildings with 32 other students in the same classroom, ushering

00:08:29.740 mothers back into the workforce so that they can fulfill their sacred duties as cogs in the economic 1.00

00:08:34.700 machine, and basically reverting back to a state of helplessness and dependence as a people.

00:08:43.800 Now, after a while, it will be hoped, things will level off, things will stabilize. That is, until

00:08:51.260 there's another national emergency that we will again be totally unprepared for and ill-equipped to

00:08:56.300 handle because we refuse to make any adjustments to the way of life that left us so vulnerable and

00:09:01.180 panic-prone in the first place. What if there's another way of living? Well, we know there's other ways 0.97

00:09:11.220 of living. The way we live now is modern. It's new. It hasn't always been this way. It doesn't

00:09:16.880 always have to be this way. And just, and I shouldn't have to stipulate this, but I feel like

00:09:22.040 I have to, this is not a pitch for socialism, okay? This is that, it's not like there are only two

00:09:26.780 options, socialism or our consumerist culture. Those are not the only two options. There are a lot of

00:09:32.160 other options. This is not a pitch for socialism at all. That is manifestly the wrong answer.

00:09:38.420 But, what if there's another way besides the way we live now? And I don't say this just because of

00:09:47.980 the coronavirus. It's not like the coronavirus happened and all of a sudden I'm rethinking

00:09:51.400 the way society is structured. I've always been saying this. Now, our inability to fend for

00:09:57.400 ourselves in a time of crisis is a pretty big concern. I see people online worried, you know,

00:10:03.360 that especially young people are practically going to starve to death because they can't order out or they

00:10:08.180 can't go to a restaurant. Um, and I understand the concern. I don't think they're actually going

00:10:14.220 to starve, but I understand because there are a lot of young people, especially who just don't know

00:10:18.280 how to, the idea of them making their own meals for an extended period of time is, is just bewildering

00:10:25.520 to them. They can't even imagine doing it. But I'd be saying this regardless of any pandemic

00:10:31.580 because it seems like our sky high rates of suicide, drug abuse, depression, um, the fact

00:10:39.600 that we spend so many hours of each day, 10 hours a day, I think the latest study says, mindlessly

00:10:45.460 staring at glowing screens rather than living a real human life. All of these are indications that

00:10:51.220 the current system may make us into relatively comfortable and wealthy people, but it is not

00:10:56.960 making us into happy and well-adjusted and well-prepared people. So maybe this crisis can

00:11:03.280 be a catalyst for fundamental changes to the way that we, we live, how we prioritize things.

00:11:08.940 And those changes of course would have to be gradual, but I think they'd be worth it.

00:11:13.780 And if we set out to make them, we might find that the next time we have to stay in our homes

00:11:18.240 for a few weeks, we don't have to be so panicked about it. This is it right now. Um, the way that

00:11:30.820 our free market economy works is that it is entirely consumerist that you, your most important duty is

00:11:37.720 to be a consumer and to buy stuff. Remember after nine 11, uh, a lot of people were making fun of George

00:11:43.620 Bush because he came out and he said, look, here's the thing you can do. Go out and buy stuff.

00:11:48.600 And in fact, he said that several times throughout his presidency. That was a, that was a common theme

00:11:52.120 he went back to go buy stuff. Well, it does seem pretty absurd that in an international emergency,

00:11:57.320 you're saying our, our greatest duty right now as Americans is just go buy stuff.

00:12:02.800 Well, yeah, that's at least that's with the way the system works now. That's, that's your,

00:12:07.560 it's probably your most important duty, at least to keep the, as far as the economy is concerned,

00:12:12.220 as far as our system is concerned, the most important thing you do is just buy stuff on black Friday,

00:12:17.300 all the people running out, the hordes trampling each other for, for consumer electronics.

00:12:21.820 They're patriots. They're, they're, they're, they're getting, they're keeping these things

00:12:24.920 going. It doesn't have to be that way where we have to be dependent, no self-sufficiency,

00:12:32.940 send our kids out of the home. You know, depending on government for education, depending on the

00:12:40.580 marketplace for everything we could possibly ever need, because we can't make or create or do

00:12:46.140 anything ourselves. Doesn't have to be that. That doesn't, that does not have to be the way a free

00:12:52.940 market economy works. It is the way ours works. Doesn't have to be. So maybe that's worth rethinking.

00:13:00.700 Well, um, moving on, we'll get to headlines in just a second, but you know, as we get into spring

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00:14:48.760 the white house has already referenced, um, has, has already, as I already referenced,

00:14:55.540 has, has issued new guidelines recommending that people stay home as much as possible for 15 days,

00:15:00.040 avoid restaurants, avoid bars, avoid gatherings of over 10 people. So you can't have any more than

00:15:04.980 10 people in a, in a crowd. So fortunately for the Biden campaign, they've already said that this

00:15:09.100 means they can continue with their rallies. They're going to be safe. Um, that also means that I can

00:15:13.680 proceed with my birthday party as planned because I'm a loser. That's the joke. If you didn't get it 0.97

00:15:20.280 and it's not really a joke, but, um, there are still, as far as I can tell some serious questions

00:15:26.520 like what happens after the 15 days are up, you know, Trump said this thing could last until

00:15:32.640 July or later. If the virus is still spreading rapidly or even more rapidly in 15 days,

00:15:38.140 is the quarantine extended? I think the answer right now is that nobody really knows because nobody

00:15:43.140 knows exactly what's going to happen. We're in uncharted territory. Um, at least, at least in

00:15:48.180 our experience as modern Americans, this is uncharted territory. By the way, I was also thinking

00:15:53.380 this 10 person limit is a huge blow to Mormon Catholic and Orthodox Jewish families, you know,

00:16:00.660 uh, because you have way more than 10 people in those houses. So some tough decisions will have to

00:16:04.580 be made. And I mean, I think every family has to decide on your own. Maybe you draw straws to figure

00:16:09.300 out who has to go stay in the shed in my family. We already do that once a week, which is a fun

00:16:14.500 tradition, but something that maybe more families will have to think about. Number two, it was

00:16:18.900 announced that all liquor stores in Pennsylvania will close indefinitely on St. Patrick's day.

00:16:25.100 They're closing liquor stores on St. Patrick's day, which is a mortal sin, literal sacrilege.

00:16:31.400 And, and I have to say, I don't get this one. Liquor stores are, are not places where large groups

00:16:38.620 gather for periods of time. In fact, most liquor stores you go into, there's like a couple of

00:16:43.760 people there. It's not, unless it's a special, well, like St. Patrick's day, but aside from

00:16:48.440 special occasions, uh, you know, it's not, it's not like in most liquor stores, there's hundreds

00:16:52.440 of people all packed in there. So you come in, you buy what you want and you leave. Why would we

00:16:57.720 need to close a place like that? This seems to be adding unnecessary hardship. And I'm not just

00:17:02.860 talking about hardship for people like myself who want to have access to bourbon, but, uh, more

00:17:07.780 importantly, hardship for the people that work at these places. You're shutting them down. It seems

00:17:11.240 like for no reason. Number three, Mayor Bill de Blasio of New York, uh, in the midst of all the

00:17:15.640 shutdowns and social, social distancing, still went to the gym yesterday to the, I believe it was the

00:17:21.920 YMCA. As the common folk are told not to do that, I guess Bill figured, well, I'm not common folk. I'm

00:17:29.340 the mayor. I'm important. And he was asked about it on CNN today. On a personal note, I want to ask

00:17:34.760 you how you're coping. Um, you went to the gym yesterday and Twitter lost its mind.

00:17:40.220 I don't get it, but we'll move on with our lives. The gyms are all closed now, Alison.

00:17:43.300 Yes. I know that the gyms are closed. Is there any sense that you were late personally to get

00:17:48.120 your arms around what the sacrifice that's required? No, everyone is going to have to make

00:17:53.320 sacrifice. But as our health commissioner said yesterday, people still are in new ways are going

00:17:58.120 to have to get exercise. Uh, whatever scenario, we're going to tell people how to stay healthy.

00:18:04.460 It may be a walk. It may be a jog, but obviously socially distanced until, unless we get to the

00:18:10.100 point of literally ordering everyone indoors. So this is going in stages. Somehow people are going

00:18:15.320 to have to stay healthy and sane through this. And it's going to take a lot of improvisation for sure.

00:18:21.080 Mayor Bill de Blasio, we really appreciate all the information. We always like seeing you in studio.

00:18:25.140 Thanks so much. Thanks so much, Alison. Really held his feet to the fire, didn't she?

00:18:29.220 Well done, CNN. I mean, you, you really, you, you made him, you, you held him accountable there,

00:18:34.120 didn't you? Um, Bill, Bill de Blasio is, and this is kind of a side note, but he's one of those guys

00:18:40.840 who to me just seems unappealing and viscerally unlikable in, in every way. He's the kind of guy

00:18:47.820 who gets on the elevator with you and you're immediately like, Oh geez, man, this guy just based on just

00:18:54.620 for no particular reason, just something about him, his demeanor, his, his aura, his essence.

00:19:00.180 Um, which makes you wonder how a man like this ever got elected. How could anyone have ever seen

00:19:06.420 much less millions of people seen this guy and listened to him and thought, I need to vote for

00:19:10.800 that. That's my guy. I, I am going to the polls for that guy. And it just once again supports my

00:19:17.360 contention that too many people vote too many people have the right to vote. The franchise needs

00:19:22.180 to be drastically limited and reduced and millions of people need to have their voting rights taken

00:19:26.640 away. Bill de Blasio, his existence as a public official, as an elected representative, as an

00:19:32.360 elected mayor, um, I think, uh, proves my point there. And that is my totally sincere and unironic

00:19:38.940 position, by the way. I really do believe that. And we'll talk more about that in just a second.

00:19:42.700 Number four, NBC universal has announced that four movies currently in theaters will be released

00:19:47.580 for home viewing, uh, early. So I think they're coming out. In fact, this weekend, these are

00:19:51.920 movies, these are movies that are in theaters right now. Uh, the hunt, the invisible man and

00:19:56.200 Emma are all coming out on, uh, on, will be available on, on your TV. I think this is another

00:20:02.920 example, another way, uh, that society is probably going to be permanently changed because of this

00:20:08.980 crisis. And this is a smaller thing, though not entirely insignificant, but after universal releases

00:20:15.000 these movies and they'll be available for 20 bucks for rent, uh, I, I'm, I'm guessing they're

00:20:21.600 going to make a lot of money off of them and more studios are going to start doing it. And then it's

00:20:25.880 hard for me to see how these studios revert back to the old way, the traditional way, uh, the way

00:20:31.520 that's, they've been doing it for decades once all this has passed, because I think they're going to

00:20:35.280 discover that they make a lot more money this way. And I know for me, maybe I'm, I imagine I'm

00:20:42.480 probably not alone in this, but there are many times when a movie comes out, I see a preview and

00:20:47.260 I think, Oh, that looks kind of interesting. I, I, I'd watch that, but I can't get to the theater

00:20:52.060 because we can't find a babysitter or I just don't feel like going to the theater. So I don't watch

00:20:56.220 it. And then when it finally comes out months later, I've already lost interest. Now, if that

00:20:59.780 movie was available the day it came out for me to watch at home, I probably would have spent the

00:21:04.360 money on the movie. And I think there are probably a lot of people in that boat. So we'll see what

00:21:08.060 happens going forward. Number five, finally, Tom Brady announced today that he's leaving

00:21:11.380 the Patriots after what 20 seasons, he's going off somewhere else. Uh, he'll be leaving and playing

00:21:18.160 elsewhere. No word yet on whether he'll bring his own spy cameras and deflated footballs,

00:21:23.360 or if they'll provide those for him. Probably they worked that out in the contractual phase.

00:21:27.440 I'm not sure. And I guess now's a good time to go back. And, and, uh, as we remember Tom Brady and

00:21:33.140 his career, I think now's a good time to go back and remember there's a great moment, a classic

00:21:37.900 moment. Uh, his, his last official pass as a Patriot, this will live on forever. This is the,

00:21:44.360 his last official act and pass as a Patriot in a Patriots uniform in the playoffs. Let's go back

00:21:49.440 and remember how that went to end it. The two of them. Yes. I mean, it's, we'll never see this run

00:21:55.340 again, Jim Brady's pass. It's intercepted and returned for a touchdown by Logan Ryan, the former

00:22:02.680 Patriots. The memories, what great memories. I actually like Tom Brady. I'm a, you know, I,

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00:23:59.320 Now for your daily cancellation today, we'll be canceling voter suppression, not the thing itself,

00:24:05.920 but the phrase, because as you know, I'm a big fan of voter suppression, but the phrase itself,

00:24:11.840 I'm, I think we're going to cancel. You're not allowed to say it anymore.

00:24:15.480 Exhibit A with, with crazy Bernie losing in the primary so badly, his surrogates are now all over

00:24:20.600 the TV claiming that his voters are being suppressed, that they, they would be voting,

00:24:25.320 but they can't because they're suppressed. This is kind of like a version of when you lose a game of,

00:24:30.120 of one-on-one basketball. And then after you already lose, you, you, you, you suddenly come

00:24:36.440 down with a, with an injured ankle that's been injured the whole time. And you say, oh yeah,

00:24:40.420 my ankle's actually been bothering me for weeks. It's been, yeah, it's been pretty, been pretty

00:24:43.680 tough. Good game. But you know, my ankle, it's a, if my ankle was better, I probably would have,

00:24:47.880 but good game. I'm not taking anything away from you. It's just my, with my ankles, that that's

00:24:51.000 the issue. It's probably why I lost, but great job. Um, now let's take a look

00:24:57.260 at, at, at what voter suppression looks like. What, what, what does voter suppression mean

00:25:04.260 to, uh, a Bernie Sanders surrogate? Let's find out first. Here's, uh, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez 0.99

00:25:10.920 on Fox a few days ago, talking about the awful suppression that Bernie Sanders voters faced.

00:25:17.500 You did a campaign event at the university of Michigan had 10,000 people. It was like a rockstar

00:25:22.120 status. Uh, but those kids did not show up. At least if you look at the numbers, I mean,

00:25:27.400 just overall this, this race. So, so how can you say the progressive position is still prevailing

00:25:33.880 nationwide when Joe Biden is winning so much? Well, I think one thing that we, that isn't being

00:25:39.560 talked about is the rampant voter suppression in this country, right there in Ann Arbor, where we had

00:25:45.400 that, uh, rally, those kids were waiting three hours in line to vote in Michigan. And so when we

00:25:52.600 talk about who's turning out and who's not turning out, we absolutely. Just to be clear, you're saying

00:25:56.280 that you think voters didn't get to vote that wanted to vote in Michigan? Absolutely. You know,

00:26:00.200 obviously there's also more that we need to do in terms of turning out youth voters. It's, uh, we need

00:26:05.080 to make sure that we're inspiring young people to turn out, but when you do turn out, you should not

00:26:09.400 be waiting three, four, seven hours in order to vote. Okay. So voters are suppressed because they

00:26:15.720 had to wait in line. So what, what was, who was suppressing them? Other voters, the voters were

00:26:22.440 suppressing each other because they all happened to want to vote at the same time. Don't long lines

00:26:29.800 mean that lots of people are voting, which means that they're not being suppressed. Isn't that an

00:26:35.160 indication that voter suppression is not happening? That's like saying that long lines at a

00:26:39.320 Star Wars movie is evidence that people are being prevented from seeing Star Wars movies.

00:26:43.480 No, that makes no sense. And the thing is, if there were no lines, then, uh, AOC would be up there

00:26:50.080 saying, well, it's voter suppression. People couldn't make it to the polls, obviously. So if

00:26:54.360 there's a lot of people, it's voter suppression. If there's nobody, it's voter suppression. That's

00:26:57.820 what we learned. Now here's Philip Agnew, uh, Bernie Sanders advisor, explaining what voter suppression

00:27:03.840 means to him. The one thing I will say though, is we're, we were, I was also in Mississippi and that's

00:27:08.960 where we, we saw each other. And there were a number of black colleges who are on spring break

00:27:14.520 during election day. And so we're up against rampant voter suppression efforts that are pushing young

00:27:21.040 black folks out of the voting, um, out of the, uh, the booth and not allowing them access to the 0.98

00:27:26.400 franchise. And so I think across the board, um, the democratic party has a lot of work to do to make

00:27:32.880 sure that young black folks, that older black folks have access to the ballot box. And our campaign is

00:27:38.120 proud to actually being a, been a part of that, but we're up, it's an uphill battle and it's not just our

00:27:42.800 campaign. I think across the board, we've got a lot of work to do. Kids were on spring break. That's voter

00:27:49.200 suppression. The kids are on spring break. They chose to go on spring break. And so they're being, they're off in

00:27:54.840 Cancun or whatever, or Pensacola and they're being suppressed. They're on the, they're, they're

00:28:01.560 lounging on the beach, drinking copious amounts of alcohol. I'm being suppressed. Help me. I'm being

00:28:07.680 suppressed. Now, of course, if kids had class that day, we would also be told that that's voter

00:28:14.260 suppression. So classes, no classes, voter suppression, lines, no lines, voter suppression.

00:28:19.440 Everything is voter suppression. See, unless, unless this is what would not by, by the standards of AOC

00:28:26.060 or this guy, here's what you would need to do in order to not be suppressing voters. You would need

00:28:31.940 to go pick up the voters in your arms, cradle them like a baby, sing them lullabies and, and carry them

00:28:40.660 into the poll and then put them down in a comfortable chair in the voting station and pick up their hand

00:28:46.820 for them. And, and with their own hand, press the button that they want to press. That's basically

00:28:53.520 they need, if they have to expend any energy at all or do anything for themselves, they're being

00:29:00.020 suppressed. But here's an idea. Here's a thought. If you want to vote, make it a priority. Wait in

00:29:07.960 line. Schedule your time. Take off work if you have to. If it's that important, it's not like we vote

00:29:14.280 every day. It's something that comes up every two years. So you're telling me it happens every two years

00:29:20.220 and you can't figure a way to schedule around it. I don't buy it. We have all this early voting and

00:29:27.100 everything. And, um, we see what happens with early voting in the primaries. People vote early

00:29:30.800 for a candidate who, when it's time for the actual voting to start, is already dropped out of the race.

00:29:37.220 So, but we're told we need early voting because we need to give people months or weeks to vote because,

00:29:42.660 uh, they might not have time on the day of voting to, oh, give me a break. You, you got two years.

00:29:48.240 It's that important to you. You've got two years to, to, to schedule time for that day and you can't

00:29:53.880 do it. Really? You can't give your boss two years notice. Tell your boss two years ahead of time on

00:30:00.580 this particular day, I'm going to be taking off for 30 minutes. You're telling me he's going to tell

00:30:05.000 you, no, you can't do it. Um, if, if it's not that important to you, that's fine. Don't vote.

00:30:14.760 See, I'm not one of those people that says, how dare you not vote? You are, you are not,

00:30:19.560 you're betraying your civic duty. No, no, it's fine. You don't want to vote. Don't vote perfectly

00:30:24.320 fine. In fact, if you have any hesitation about voting, if there's any part of you that thinks

00:30:30.260 I don't want to vote because I that's, I'm giving up time that I could be spending watching TV

00:30:34.200 or whatever. If that's your thought process, don't vote perfectly fine. It'll be okay. In fact,

00:30:40.640 it'll be better without you. If it's not really a priority. I, again, I am someone who actually,

00:30:48.020 I want to suppress, suppress votes. I do. I want civics exams for all voters. I want the voters

00:30:54.080 to be taxpayers. I want them to be English speakers. Um, I think the number of people voting should be a

00:31:00.800 fraction of what it currently is. Voting is not, is not, is not a God given right for all people.

00:31:07.880 I say it again. Voting is not a God given right for all people. It was never intended to be.

00:31:15.240 That's never how it was supposed to be set up. And even now, see, when I say that, it sounds like,

00:31:21.820 it sounds like a heresy in the modern American mind because most Americans don't understand the

00:31:27.180 history of their own system or how it's supposed to work. But, um, even to the person who says, well,

00:31:34.160 how could you possibly say that? Voting is wonderful. Everyone should be voting. You don't

00:31:38.480 even believe that yourself. Do you think six-year-olds should be voting? Do you think a rapist in prison

00:31:44.700 should be voting? Now there are some people dumb enough to say that, yeah, even they should be 1.00

00:31:50.020 voting. But, um, most people would say, well, no, of course not them. Okay. So that means that means 0.98

00:31:58.100 that you agree that voting is actually not a right for everyone. You agree that there should be some

00:32:03.920 parameters put in place. You and I are on the same page. I'm saying it's not a universal God given

00:32:09.580 right. You also believe that whether you say it or not. So since we're on the same page that there

00:32:16.220 should be parameters put in place deciding who can vote, then what I'm saying is let's talk about what

00:32:22.200 those parameters should be. You know, it, should it just be that we're ruling out six-year-olds and

00:32:27.460 rapists? Um, I mean, are there other kinds of people who maybe shouldn't be allowed to vote?

00:32:33.840 Kinds of people like, for example, people who couldn't pass a sixth grade civics exam or people

00:32:40.400 who are not, um, uh, uh, taxpayers and are not contributing to the economy that way, or people who,

00:32:47.760 uh, can't speak English, right? So do we really need them to be voting? Is it better for the country

00:32:57.280 to have voting from those people? I would say, no, it's not. I would say it's clearly not better for

00:33:05.620 the country. And if it's not better for the country and voting is not a God given universal right,

00:33:09.800 which again, we agree it's not, then, um, why are we doing it? Why are we allowing it?

00:33:14.740 What, what, what, what do you think is, what's like the worst case scenario? If, if we made it so

00:33:20.000 that everyone who votes can pass a sixth grade civics exam, what's, what is the dystopian worst

00:33:26.800 case scenario of that? Oh my gosh, now we have reasonably informed and intelligent people voting.

00:33:31.380 It's the end of the world. Like what's, what's the, what's the downside? I don't even see it. I really

00:33:38.560 don't. Um, okay, let's go to, we're going to go to emails here in a second, but first here's possibly

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00:34:34.960 today. All right. So some emails, um, this, uh, well, both of these are, uh, why I'm wrong emails.

00:34:43.620 So, uh, this is from RD says, Matt, you're wrong that we should only listen to the experts on

00:34:49.200 coronavirus. This is exactly the kind of mentality you normally complain about. You're the one who

00:34:54.080 has said many times that you have every right to talk about something like ADHD and people who expect

00:34:57.740 you to have an MD to discuss it are just trying to shut down debate. I, I like that version of you

00:35:04.120 better. You were right about that. Trying to turn the national conversation into something that only

00:35:08.400 experts can engage in is elitist snobbery at its worst. Well, you're right, RD. I have, um,

00:35:15.740 complained about the mentality that says that you should have to present your resume before engaging

00:35:19.740 in a conversation about anything. I reject the idea that you have to be a certified expert

00:35:24.580 to have an opinion on any subject. But I also think that if we're in the middle of a crisis,

00:35:31.760 and that crisis involves a very specific scientific phenomenon like a virus, then you should have a

00:35:37.440 real understanding of viruses and a very firm base of knowledge and some experience in the field

00:35:41.840 if you're going to make public pronouncements about the virus and its relative threat to the public

00:35:47.140 and so on. So those two positions of mine are not in conflict. And I really don't think

00:35:53.020 it should be controversial. All I'm saying is you should know what you're talking about.

00:35:57.620 So if you're, um, if you're making statements about something like a pandemic, and especially

00:36:04.020 if you're, if you're making explicit or implicit recommendations to other people about how seriously

00:36:09.400 they should or should not take it, then you should know what you're talking about. Like that, I can't

00:36:14.380 believe you're not the only email like this. How could anyone disagree? But people do. I'm saying know

00:36:20.740 what you're talking about. People say, well, how dare you? I don't think you should know what you're

00:36:23.660 talking about at all. If we go back to the voting thing, it's like this people think it's, it's,

00:36:28.340 it's good to have ignorant morons, uh, you know, chiming in. It's, it's not. 1.00

00:36:36.240 Now imagine if somebody was diagnosed with cancer, do you think it would be responsible and reasonable

00:36:43.260 if I were to come along with no experience in, in oncology and no, um, expertise, uh, and you know,

00:36:52.420 no medical degree or anything with very little understanding of how cancer works.

00:36:57.360 And, uh, all the same, if I were to come to that person and dispense confident advice on the types

00:37:03.220 of treatment they should receive and how serious they should take their diagnosis, would that be

00:37:09.940 reasonable for me to do? Would that be responsible? Would you encourage that? And would the person with

00:37:15.860 cancer be, um, an elitist snob for saying to me, oh, you know what? I'm going to listen to the

00:37:21.080 doctors on this. So, uh, you know, maybe you should pipe down. No, I, I, I think pretty clearly.

00:37:29.080 And does that mean that I should never say anything about cancer? Does that mean that there

00:37:33.040 are no issues related to cancer that I could possibly have anything valuable to say about?

00:37:37.580 No, it just means that on the specific medical and scientific questions, I should leave it to the

00:37:43.360 people who understand the questions and the answers better than I do. Again, that should not be

00:37:47.660 controversial. You mentioned ADHD. You're right. I have many opinions about that. I have no problem

00:37:53.100 sharing them, but my opinions have little to do with the neurological or medical issues involved.

00:37:58.100 Now, if a, if a neurologist comes along and tells me about the differences in brain scans between

00:38:03.040 ADHD people and people without ADHD, um, I'll listen. You know, I'm not, I'm not going to argue with

00:38:08.140 them. They know that better than I do. I haven't really studied the issue that much, at least the

00:38:11.980 the neurological piece of it. Uh, and if a doctor wants to tell me about the diagnostic criteria for

00:38:17.140 ADHD, you know, if I'm making statements about that and a doctor says you're wrong, here's the

00:38:21.900 real criteria. Okay. I'll listen to that too. I'm not going to pretend to know more than the doctor

00:38:26.100 or the neurologist in their fields. But my point about ADHD is that even though there are diagnostic

00:38:32.700 criteria, and even if you can see it in a brain scan, which for my reading, actually in many cases,

00:38:37.860 you can't, but again, I'll defer to the experts on that. My point is that it doesn't prove that the

00:38:45.200 thing is actually a disorder. It doesn't prove that the people who have ADHD aren't supposed to

00:38:52.220 be that way. Because what the doctors are saying about the ADHD kid is not just he exhibits these

00:38:59.100 traits and he has this and that going on in his brain. What they're saying is he's not supposed to

00:39:04.860 be this way. We have to use drugs to change him. A kid is not supposed to act this way and think this

00:39:11.220 way and behave this way. And so we must treat it like a disease and try to change it. And that I

00:39:18.080 submit is not a medical opinion. That is an opinion about how, how humans are supposed to be,

00:39:24.380 which is a philosophical opinion. It's a very deep philosophical opinion. The question, if I were to

00:39:29.460 ask you, how is a human supposed to be? What is a human, how is a human supposed to think? Now, I'm not

00:39:36.940 even sure if that's an answerable question, but if it is an answerable question, it's not answerable

00:39:41.140 just to doctors. I think we all have an equal shot at taking a crack at that one and getting it right

00:39:46.160 because we're all people and we all have experience being human beings. Now, I say that the child with

00:39:53.360 ADHD is supposed to be that way. I say that's his personality. And if it doesn't, if it, if it

00:40:01.580 interferes at school, well, that's more a statement about flaws in the school system than it is a

00:40:08.240 statement about flaws in him. So my opinion is not medical, not scientific. All the science in the

00:40:16.440 world is not going to change my mind because it's irrelevant to the point. That's not the point I'm

00:40:21.280 making. It would be like if I was giving my view on the meaning of life and you were to say, oh yeah,

00:40:26.600 you're not even a scientist. So what? Why would a scientist have any greater insight into the meaning

00:40:33.200 of life than anyone else? Now, they might be able to tell me a lot of scientific facts about the nature

00:40:38.660 of life. Fine. But as far as its meaning, its purpose, I mean, who cares if you're a scientist or

00:40:44.680 not? You're not going to have any better chance at being right on that than anyone else would.

00:40:49.240 And so those are the differences. Finally, this is from Cody says, big fan of the show,

00:40:56.900 but you're wrong in regards to price gouging. The attached link does a concise yet thorough job

00:41:00.780 of explaining why this is not a bad thing. Also, it is troubling that you express more concern with

00:41:05.400 an individual selling an item to willing buyers at an agreed upon price as opposed to the state

00:41:09.360 literally taking what was rightfully his property at point of gun. Although I am an extreme liberty lover,

00:41:14.600 an anarcho-capitalist, I don't doubt that you also support individual sovereignty,

00:41:18.460 although maybe not to the same degree. It is important in times like this for us to not allow

00:41:22.540 fear to cause us to turn a blind eye at tyranny, which is exactly what occurred when the aforementioned

00:41:26.520 man had his property seized. And then Cody attaches a link with a 10-page document. Cody, I haven't

00:41:32.040 read your link yet. I admit I will. But of course, there's a difference, I think, between saying people

00:41:39.700 have the right to price gouge and saying that people are right to price gouge. Now, you seem to be

00:41:45.460 making the latter case, that it's the right thing to do. Now, or maybe I'm wrong about remaking that

00:41:53.260 case. And maybe the article that you're sending will get into this. But if you want to tell me

00:41:59.660 that there are situations where so-called price gouging by stores in an emergency or disaster is

00:42:08.620 necessary, and maybe in some cases actually good, then I might agree. I could see how that might be

00:42:15.980 the case. You could argue plausibly that a store increasing prices on a necessary item in a time

00:42:22.280 of emergency will ensure that it's available to more people. So if there's a shortage of clean,

00:42:27.480 healthy water in a disaster, and you've got a store with these big gallon jugs of water for 98 cents a

00:42:34.260 piece, well, what's going to happen? The first few people that come in are going to clean the whole 0.99

00:42:37.480 place out and get more water than they need. And then there are going to be other people who get

00:42:41.180 no water. And so maybe price gouging, I'm totally, I don't even know if this is the argument in the

00:42:46.200 link. I'm just saying this is an argument I could see for price gouging. But if you raise the price,

00:42:52.340 then it's going to mean that people are not going to buy as much, are more likely to buy only what

00:42:57.560 they need, and then that's going to leave some more for those who need it. And then we're spreading

00:43:01.180 out, spreading the wealth, you know, to use an unfortunate phrase. Um, okay. And so I could see

00:43:08.540 that. That's not what happened here. This was most assuredly not something that was done to ensure

00:43:14.700 that more people would have access to the thing that this guy bought. This was a guy who bought up

00:43:18.980 all the hand sanitizer, um, you know, in the stores in his state and surrounding states. He went around

00:43:25.620 about like 17,000 boxes of hands or 17,000 things of hand sanitizer, bought them all up so that he

00:43:31.420 could resell them at sometimes at prices that were, you know, uh, like for $70, like 10 times what they

00:43:37.840 would cost in the store. Now here's the point. This dude was doing exactly the thing that the

00:43:45.780 defenders of price gouging say we need to protect against. You see what I'm saying? This, the kind of

00:43:52.640 good price gouging that arguably a store could do would be done exactly to stop this guy from

00:43:58.360 doing what he did, which tells me that this is the bad kind of price gouging we're talking about for

00:44:02.960 sure. Um, you know, let's think about what if this was a really necessary item? I think the only

00:44:11.620 argument you could actually make against what the state did in this case by confiscating the hand

00:44:15.640 sanitizer from this guy is, is to say that, well, it's not really a necessary item because you have

00:44:22.700 soap. Soap is actually better to wash your hands with than hand sanitizer. So it's not like if people

00:44:26.660 don't have hand sanitizer, they can't wash their hands. If they have soap, they still can. So you

00:44:30.760 could argue it's not a necessary item. So what the state did was, was exorbitant. Uh, okay. Maybe

00:44:36.020 that's the case, but are there situations where the state would be correct in responding the way they

00:44:41.900 did. Is this a power or authority that in theory they should have? I would say yes. And for this

00:44:47.760 reason, imagine if, and this is not, not necessarily a, a, a long, a far-fetched hypothetical. What if

00:44:56.620 somebody goes around during a shortage, during an emergency, buys up all the baby formula in, in all

00:45:02.820 the stores and surrounding areas, hoards them all for himself, doesn't even have a baby himself, and then

00:45:08.080 resells it for, uh, exorbitant prices? Well, now you've got a situation where many families are going

00:45:17.040 to need formula. Uh, you know, you, you got mothers who don't breastfeed or can't breastfeed for one 1.00

00:45:21.940 reason or another, or they've already stopped breastfeeding and now they don't produce milk 0.97

00:45:25.000 anymore. They need that formula for their infants. And, uh, maybe they can't afford it at what it's

00:45:31.940 being sold by the price coucher. What do we do? Do we throw up our hands and say, well, finders keepers,

00:45:38.080 sorry, babies, you're out of luck. Guess you'll have to starve to death. Um, no, I, I, I don't think 0.97

00:45:44.940 that. I don't think we say, well, we don't want to infringe on this guy's liberty to buy all the

00:45:48.800 baby formula and, and become a millionaire off of it. We don't want to, we don't want to infringe

00:45:52.340 on that right. So we're just going to let the babies die. It seems clear that in that case, um, 0.94

00:45:58.800 if you argued against state involvement, you would be putting his supposed liberties, his supposed

00:46:05.080 right to buy whatever he wants and sell whatever he wants without restriction in every situation

00:46:10.220 over the needs of families to feed their children and the rights of babies to not starve to death.

00:46:15.880 And this is exactly where libertarianism breaks down in my opinion, because a right like the right

00:46:20.660 to buy and sell stuff is, uh, is important, of course, but you would want to make it sacrosanct.

00:46:28.200 Right. Where, where you would say that nothing could ever be a good enough reason to infringe

00:46:33.220 on that right. And I simply disagree. I think that there are times when, um, the right to

00:46:39.920 buy and sell stuff has to be subordinated to other rights. So the way I would break this

00:46:46.140 down, I guess, is that in situations like this, if somebody is buying up necessary items

00:46:51.140 that the community needs, really needs, then the state ought to step in, in situations like

00:46:57.480 that, you know, not under normal circumstances. And I think that hand sanitizer is a relatively

00:47:03.480 superfluous thing because you don't need it because you have soap. So probably I would agree

00:47:08.080 with you. The state was wrong in this case, but I'm not going to make a blanket statement that they,

00:47:12.160 that it would be always be wrong for them to do this. Because as I said, I could certainly see

00:47:16.140 situations where I think for the state not to get involved would be madness. Um, so that's where I

00:47:24.120 would, uh, believe that, but you're right. I'm not an anarcho-capitalist myself. So, uh,

00:47:28.860 maybe it's not surprising. I have this view. Thank you for watching everybody. Thank you for

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The Matt Walsh Show - March 17, 2020

Ep. 446 - Let’s Stay Quarantined Forever

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