Ep. 450 - When The Cure Is Worse Than The Disease
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As the economy teeters on the brink of collapse, and many Americans are already finding that they have to choose between paying their mortgage this month and feeding their kids, some government officials are hinting that the shutdown could go on for weeks or months longer. Others, like President Trump, are suggesting that we should get the economy going again soon.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, as the economy teeters on the brink of collapse and many
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Americans are already finding that they have to choose between paying their mortgage this
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month and feeding their kids, some government officials are hinting that the shutdowns could
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go on for weeks or months longer. Others, like President Trump, are suggesting that we should
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get the economy going again soon. I think Trump is on the right path here, and I'd like to talk
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about what opening up the economy again could look like and what steps we might take in order to
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protect the vulnerable as we get back to our lives, which we need to start doing soon. Also,
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five headlines, including Madonna's very insightful video that she shot from her bathtub. A lot of
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people are making fun of it, but I thought it was quite poetic, and she offered some great insights
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into the coronavirus. We turn to people like Madonna in times like this, and that's why I'm so happy
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that all these famous people are making all these videos, because I wouldn't know what to think or
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what to do without the famous people telling me. And in our daily cancellation, I cancel yet another
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media outlet for maybe the most egregious, fear-mongering headline we have yet seen throughout
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Takovas dot com slash Walsh. By the way, before we get going into the topic at hand here, I have a
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question for any parents out there. Tell me if you're experiencing this. Maybe I just want to make
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myself feel better, but maybe we're just extra lazy, my wife and I. But we have basically given up on
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making sure that our kids get dressed into normal clothes throughout this quarantine. They haven't
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left our house except to walk around, you know, outside for a week now or more. So my daughter at
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this point has worn nothing but pajamas since last Wednesday. And both of my sons look like they got
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drunk and raided a party city. So here's what my younger son was dressed in yesterday. Let me just
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show you this. Um, we've got the T-Rex rain boots, superhero pajama pants, leather jacket,
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and like a native American buckskin shirt and a plastic spoon that he says is his lightsaber.
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Actually his lightsaber. It is dark Vader's lightsaber. According to my son, he can't be
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convinced otherwise, by the way, that's how it's pronounced. That's all it is. I think he pulls it
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off though. And this is why I get jealous of young kids that they can wear stuff like that. I wish I
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could dress like that. If I could dress like that and get, would I get away with it? My wife would
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allow it. I would dress like that every day, but he pulls it off. Um, now I did just, you know,
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of course I did tell him that wearing that shirt is cultural appropriation. And I said, cultural
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appropriation is violence to which he responded. Oh, okay. And then ran away humming the, uh, Darth Vader
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theme to himself. So this is a kid who just is not frankly, is not very woke. Anyway, uh, president
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Donald Trump is now signaling that he wants to end these lockdowns. Um, and at the conclusion of our
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15 day quarantine period, which is up on Friday, I believe we still don't know exactly what his plan
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would be, or if he'll still feel this way on Friday. So we don't know exactly. It's, it's still
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somewhat vague, but last night he tweeted, we cannot let the cure be worse than the problem
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itself. At the end of the 15 day period, we will make a decision as to which way we want to go.
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Okay. The problem of course is that Trump doesn't have the power to tell individual governors in
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other States to end their lockdowns. So we could be headed to one hell of a showdown between Trump
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and state authorities across the country. Who knows how that's going to shake out. Meanwhile,
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as expected, this, this tweet from Trump has provoked lots of panicky overblown responses as
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literally every single tweet of his does this, especially though. Uh, and people are talking
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about how Trump is going to kill your grandparents and so on and so forth. The governor of New York,
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on the other hand, has implied that his state may remain locked down for months. He hasn't said that
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exactly. No official has said that exactly. But, but as this has gone on, you have, you have more and
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more of them with exception of Trump who seem to be indicating that, yeah, 15 days, probably not that
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could be three weeks, four weeks, four months, who knows? Um, they, they, they at least are, are
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indicating that the potential of a months long lockdown of millions of people is a possibility that
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they're weighing. It's an option that they're considering. Uh, now that Cuomo, the governor of
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New York also justified over the weekend, these draconian measures by saying, even if it saves one
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life, it will be worth it. This is reminiscent of what the mayor of Los Angeles said last week.
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And we talked about where he was asked directly, what, what about the economic impact? What about all
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the people who are going to be out of a job? Uh, isn't this, isn't this too much? And he's, you know,
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isn't it, isn't it not worth the cost? He said, every life is precious. Oh, that's all I could
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say. Every life is precious on the, and we'll get back to that in just a second. Those, those
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responses on the economic side, as Yahoo finance reports, uh, real estate billionaire, Tom Barrack
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said the U S commercial mortgage market is on the brink of collapse and predicted a domino effect of
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catastrophic economic consequences. And the federal reserve bank of St. St. Louis president, James
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Bullard predicted this weekend that very soon the unemployment rate could hit 30%, 30%.
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So put that in context, the worst unemployment rate in American history, as far as I'm aware
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was 25%. And that was during the great depression, 25%. That's the worst ever.
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He's talking about worst than the worst ever unemployment rate. Uh, the worst unemployment
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rate in my lifetime and probably in your lifetime too, depending on how old you are was about 10%.
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Now the unemployment rate rarely hits double figures, double digits. And when it does already,
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people are starting to freak out. This would be three times worse than the worst we've ever seen.
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And that's where we stand right now. We've got some government officials hinting that these
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shutdowns could go on for a long time. We've got others will mainly just Trump into indicating that
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they're coming to an end. Uh, and we've got the economy on the brink of collapse of catastrophe
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collapse, you know, whatever word you want to use. Uh, and that's not, that's not being dramatic or,
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or panicked. That's the collapse of the commercial mortgage market is a catastrophe. 30%
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unemployment is a catastrophe. And those two indicators are just the beginning. They barely
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scratch the surface. Think about this. The state of New York, the city of New York, uh, I should say
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is, is the economic hub or one of the major, at least economic hubs of the United States.
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If just New York were to shut down on its own, if it were just New York shutting down for weeks at a
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time, that would send shockwaves. That alone could be catastrophic. The restaurant industry, uh,
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employs about 13 million Americans. If just the restaurant industry were to shut down,
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the domino effect of that could be catastrophic for the whole economy. Uh, you think about,
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you know, companies like professional, think about professional sports, all of the money that they
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pump in the economy. If just they were to shut down again, you would have potentially catastrophic
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domino effects. Well, all of this is happening at the same time that, and much more.
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Now I've said that, uh, uh, I'm on board with Trump's 15 day, 15 days to slow the spread. That's
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what we originally told. I think we can survive 15 days. I'm not sure what exactly it will prove to
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have accomplished with respect to the virus. And that's where I've been saying all along,
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I have no choice, but to leave that to the scientists. I don't know what 15 days of lockdown,
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what is that really going to do? Hopefully it'll do something. Maybe if I had to guess,
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maybe it gives our hospital and hospitals and medical community and scientists, uh, a chance to,
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to catch up basically, um, scientists who are working on treatments and, and, and, uh, and, uh,
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and working on a vaccine gives them a little bit of time to catch up. Maybe that's what this is doing.
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And maybe that's a significant thing worth the cost. But when I say worth the cost, it's,
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it's important to note that the cost has already, already been substantial for a lot of people over the
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weekend. I asked, uh, people to send me their stories. I solicited this on Twitter, asking people
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who've lost a job or lost income over the last week or two, because of these shutdowns to, you know,
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either send, write a comment or send me a message telling me their situation, what their story is.
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And I got hundreds of messages. I read many of them. They're, they're pretty harrowing.
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And keep in mind, it's been only a week for most people. Now, I originally planned to share some of
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these stories on, on the show, but so many of them include so many personal details about people's
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situation or financial situation. Uh, not that they're giving me their bank account information
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or something. I just mean, you know, their personal details about their jobs and everything
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that part of the story. So I'm, I don't feel comfortable sharing that even if they gave me
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permission. So I'm not going to do that. Suffice it to say, from what I'm reading, lots of people
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are already nearly in a financially dire state, small business, small business owners, especially
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can't just drop to zero revenue, even for a week without there being significant consequences,
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potentially fatal consequences to their business. We, we can't, that's not how business works. It's
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not how the economy works. You can't put it on pause, cryogenically freeze it, or maybe stuff it in
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your freezer, like a, like a pack of ground beef and then thought back up, you know, thought again
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and return to normal. Like nothing happened. The economy doesn't work that way. Business doesn't
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work that way. And many working families are paycheck to paycheck. If someone was working
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paycheck to paycheck, living paycheck to paycheck, and you take one paycheck away, it's going to have
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a cascading effect in their lives. And that could be nearly ruinous. So it seems like if this is over
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after one week, after one more week, most people, many people will narrowly avoid the financial brink
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narrowly and not everybody. I got one message from a woman, just one example, woman, single mother
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left an abusive relationship recently, got a job recently, uh, was, was, was starting to,
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you know, starting to get into the, to the, into the swing of things at her job, loses her job
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because it's in the restaurant industry. When they were, when that shuts down, now she's at a
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shelter with no income, uh, her three kids and, and no job. Lots of stories like that. That's after one
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week. So what does it look like if things continue for a month, two months? Well, it looks like a
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disaster. I mean, it looks like thousands of businesses going under millions of people out
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of a job, unable to pay their rent or their mortgage, unable to feed their kids, destitution,
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desperation on a massive scale. This again is not, not some sort of dramatic doomsday prophecy.
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How do you avoid that? If the government prevents people from working for weeks and weeks at a time,
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what's going to happen? People need money to live. Now, um, we'll have more to say about this in just
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a moment. And I want to get into, uh, the justifications that were being given by government
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officials, which to me have been very disturbing, especially in the last few days, the things that
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off. All right. Governor Cuomo says, uh, Governor Cuomo says all of this is worth it if it saves one
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life. That's obviously insane. That logic is insane. It's the logic of a madman. If he really
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believes it, he's a madman. I don't think he really does. In fact, given that he's given that
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the abortion clinics are still open because apparently they are essential. Being able to
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kill your baby during this time is essential. That makes me even more sure that Governor Cuomo
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doesn't mean it. If you want to save just one life, shut down the, shut down the abortion clinics
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and nothing else. And you've saved millions of lives, not just one. But as I said, it disturbs me
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greatly that the people making these calls are saying things like this. They aren't giving us
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science and data and numbers. They aren't, they aren't showing us that they've weighed the
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consequences of economic collapse against the consequences of an uncontrolled outbreak.
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They aren't showing that if they've done it, they aren't telling us
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collapse. If they've run these calculations and taken seriously the effects of an economic
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collapse, we're not, we're getting very little indication of that from the people in power,
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especially from these governors who are shutting everything down. Instead, they're giving us
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platitudes, ambiguities. That's not good enough. You can't plunge our country into a great depression
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and ruin the lives of millions of people with this as your stated reason. If it saves one life,
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it'll be worth it. Now, as I said last week, I'm not sure exactly what the balance is. At what point
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does the potential number of lives saved actually justify a potential great depression and millions
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of destitute people? I don't know. I damn sure know though, it isn't one. One person isn't going to do it.
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And because I don't know where that line is exactly or when exactly it is crossed,
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I have to think of it this way. Let's weigh the worst case scenarios, the absolute worst case
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scenarios on both sides. Because we're hearing a lot of the worst case scenario on the health side,
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on the disease side of it. We're getting a lot of that. We all know what the worst case scenario is
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because we've been told millions of times now. Worst case scenario there is we get the economy going,
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people get back to their lives, the disease picks up with a vengeance, millions of mostly elderly and
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sick people die, hospitals are overwhelmed, and many more die because of that. On the other side
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though, and this is the part that many of these government officials aren't talking about.
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On the other side, we shut everything down for many weeks, tens of millions of people lose their jobs,
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wide swaths of the population plunged into destitution, parents unable to feed their children,
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many die from lack of shelter, lack of food, many more die from suicide as they watch their lives
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unravel before them. And American society as we know it is finished. Worst case. I'm not saying
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either of those worst cases will happen, but they are the worst cases. And anybody who advocates for
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one solution over the other and has not grappled with the worst case outcome of their solution
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should be ignored, in my opinion. And it's been troubling that so many people advocating for
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indefinite lockdowns are not even acknowledging the possibility of a Great Depression, potentially
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worse than the first Great Depression, and are therefore not grappling with what such a thing
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would mean and what the human cost would be. Much of what we get from folks on that side,
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if you start talking about this, they'll say really stupid things like,
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oh, all you care about is your 401k and your paycheck. And your portfolio. I've gotten this
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a lot. All you care about is your portfolio. You think working families that are living paycheck
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to paycheck, trying to figure out how to feed their kids, you think they're worried about their
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portfolio? You think they have a portfolio? No. They need to feed their kids. They need money
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to do it. It's a real simple equation here. So on my end, as I've thought about this,
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the conclusion I've come to that I think it's better to risk the former worst case than the latter.
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Better to risk the disease killing lots of people, which is a horrible thing. Again,
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we're dealing with worse cases here. But better to risk that than to intentionally destroy our
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economy and the lives of millions of people in order to maybe prevent the disease from doing that.
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I'm not aware of any country ever intentionally plunging itself into a depression in order to
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avoid a virus or to avoid anything. As far as I'm aware, no country has ever tried that method
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before to solve any problem. I think probably we shouldn't be the first. Now, you've probably heard
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this by now, but when weighing these matters, I keep thinking about a lot of people have thought about
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this quote, because I've seen it all over the place. And I think it's worth if you haven't heard it, I think
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it's worth reading. A C.S. Lewis quote from an essay about living in the atomic age, as he did.
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So this isn't obviously about a viral pandemic, and it's not exactly analogous, but there is
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some comparisons here that can be made. So here's what he, in one of his essays, here's what he says.
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In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation.
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Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before
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the atomic bomb was invented, and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant
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ways. We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors, anesthetics. But we have that
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still. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the
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scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled
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with such chances, and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.
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This is the first point to be made, and the first action to be taken is to pull ourselves together.
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If we are all going to be destroyed by an atomic bomb, let that bomb, when it comes, find us doing
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sensible and human things. Praying, working, teaching, reading, listening to music, bathing the
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children, playing tennis, chatting to our friends over a pint and a game of darts, not huddled together
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like frightened sheep and thinking about bombs. They may break our bodies. A microbe can do that,
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but they need not dominate our minds. Now, that doesn't mean that I think we should fling open
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the doors and charge back into our normal daily lives while ignoring the coronavirus and just
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accepting that people are going to die. Obviously, that's not what we should do.
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Obviously, no matter what you do, you have to avoid, you have to try to avoid the worst outcome.
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Right now, the government is trying to avoid economic ruin by keeping things locked down
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and sending us checks. Well, they haven't sent any checks yet. They're still debating it.
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I think they should send the checks, but I don't think that plan is sustainable.
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So, rather than keeping everything locked down indefinitely while taking specific steps to
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hopefully avoid economic ruination, why not open things up again and take specific steps to
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hopefully avoid mass casualties from an outbreak? Why not take it from that direction?
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I have an idea of what that might look like, and we'll talk about that in just a second. But first,
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if you haven't had a chance to see some of our new content called All Access Live, you should head
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over to dailywire.com, check it out. Jeremy Boring and Ben Shapiro kicked it off last week.
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Then we all did live streams each day over at dailywire.com. And we'll continue all of this
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week as well at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific. All Access Live is a lot more relaxed than our
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normal programming. It isn't really a show. It's less focused on bringing you news and information.
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It's more about sitting down and having a conversation with you at the end of a long day.
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We've been getting a lot of amazing messages from our Daily Wire community during these trying times.
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And we can see that they're coming from a positive and heartfelt place.
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So I think that these live streams are great, not just for our viewers, but also for us as well.
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I really enjoyed, personally, kind of therapeutic to sit down and have a conversation that goes
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many different ways, isn't necessarily focused all the time on this thing that we've been talking
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about now incessantly for weeks. This show is intended for our All Access members, but during
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this national emergency and time of isolation, we've opened it up to all of our members and in doing
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so accelerated the launch. So please let us know what you think of it. And if you're around at 8 p.m.
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Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific tonight, join us on All Access Live over at dailywire.com. I'll be doing
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one, I believe, on Wednesday again. So I'll talk to you then on Wednesday. Now, how about this for
00:24:39.760
night? Rather than keeping everything locked down indefinitely while taking specific steps to
00:24:44.460
hopefully avoid economic ruination, why not, again, open things up? We take specific steps,
00:24:49.940
though, while we're doing that to avoid mass casualties from an outbreak. Just a brainstorm
00:24:54.600
here. Tell me what the problem would be with something like this, a potential plan we could
00:25:01.800
think about. Number one, open the economy up, let young and healthy people work, feed themselves and
00:25:09.620
their families. Two, quarantine the nursing homes, keep them quarantined. Three, tell other especially
00:25:16.740
at-risk people to remain home for now. Four, test aggressively. And if somebody has the virus,
00:25:24.400
quarantine them aggressively. Now, it seems to me that this plan has a better chance of avoiding
00:25:31.420
devastation from the disease than a shutdown with stimulus checks has of avoiding a depression.
00:25:38.220
And maybe that's the way we should be thinking about this right now.
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There are no perfect answers. There may not even be any good answers.
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But there are answers that can better account for the potential worst case scenario on the other side.
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And here's the good thing. If we do this and we get people back to work, then we don't need to keep
00:26:02.100
sending people checks. I think that people should get at least the one stimulus check to compensate them
00:26:07.880
for what they've lost in the last week or two. But we don't need to keep doing it.
00:26:12.860
And if everyone's back at work, then we could be more targeted and we could start thinking about
00:26:17.920
the at-risk. Let's say there's someone who's even younger and has severe asthma and says,
00:26:23.340
I can't risk it. I can't go out right now. Has to stay home. Okay. Well, or you might have
00:26:29.260
an older person, an elderly person even, who doesn't have a retirement savings, can't live off of
00:26:36.660
social security alone. And so depends on their job at Kroger. They can't go back to work either.
00:26:41.240
There's going to be lots of people in that, in that boat, a lot fewer though, than there are right
00:26:45.240
now where everybody's at home. So in this scenario, we could be more targeted and focus on supporting
00:26:50.860
those people, finding relief for them specifically. It'd be a lot easier to do a lot cheaper to do.
00:26:58.380
And we could be a lot more specific with it. I certainly don't think that we should go back to work
00:27:03.180
and tell people who can't work still to stay home and say, well, you're on your own, figure it out.
00:27:07.800
No, no, no. We should take care of them. It'd be a lot easier to do though, if we're not plunging
00:27:12.020
everybody else into destitution as well. I have heard one other quick thing, the objection I've heard
00:27:19.980
from people of, well, what about those who have elderly people in the home? Let's say you're living
00:27:26.980
with an elderly parent. You go off to work, you come home, you pass it off to them. What about
00:27:31.420
that? Well, listen, maybe an analogy here. As I mentioned on the show, probably frequently as I
00:27:40.120
was whining about it, I had the flu a few months ago. It was the flu, it wasn't the coronavirus.
00:27:45.180
Tested positive for the flu, pretty severe case of it. And now the flu, yes, is not the same as the
00:27:52.840
coronavirus, but the flu is more deadly. It's in fact much, as far as we know, is much deadlier to
00:27:59.180
kids, especially babies, than is the coronavirus. And so, you know, when I had the flu, we have a
00:28:05.100
newborn at home. It's a big problem. I've got a severe case of the flu. I've got a newborn, plus
00:28:11.600
three other young kids. If they get it, especially if the baby gets it, that could be potentially fatal.
00:28:16.980
And so, what did I do? I quarantined myself up here in this room. It's like the upper area of our
00:28:24.560
house. I quarantined myself, and I didn't come out for days. And it was tough. It was especially
00:28:30.620
tough on my wife, but it was what we had to do. So, my point is, if parents are already doing that
00:28:38.440
with respect to the flu when it comes to their babies and their young kids, considering the flu
00:28:42.440
is, again, deadlier to children than the coronavirus is, parents that are already doing that have been
00:28:46.660
doing that for years. These are the kind of measures you have to take to make sure babies and
00:28:49.560
other, and your kids don't get the flu. Well, then why can't a similar thing be done
00:28:55.100
with elderly people and the coronavirus? Just, you know, already parents, even if they don't have the
00:29:02.540
flu, most parents, if they're responsible, exercise great caution during flu season, especially
00:29:07.920
with their kids when it comes to germs and everything else. And it's a lot harder to do with kids because
00:29:12.780
you can't convince them to wash, you can't convince a two-year-old to wash his hands or to keep his
00:29:17.220
hands out of his mouth. You just can't do it. With older people, you can tell them, wash your hands,
00:29:21.060
they'll put your hands in your mouth. Pretty easy to at least avoid doing that. So, why couldn't we
00:29:26.880
take a step like that? If you have an elderly person in the home, why can't you do something similar
00:29:31.800
as to what I did to protect my baby when I had the flu? I mean, you know, I know it's not easy. There aren't
00:29:40.040
any easy answers here, but there are potentially answers that don't involve destroying the entire
00:29:44.840
economy and plunging millions of people into poverty. Now, let's move on to headlines. Five headlines.
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Number one, CNN headline says, California's beaches, hiking trails, and parks were packed with people over the
00:29:57.720
weekend despite a state order to shelter in place and avoid close contact with others. Now, this kind
00:30:03.300
of thing, people still going to beaches and parks, has provoked, in keeping with the theme, lots of
00:30:08.500
anger and panicky responses from people saying that these folks on the beach are going to get all of
00:30:13.100
our grandparents killed, etc. And I'll probably get myself into trouble here with this, but I have to
00:30:17.720
say, and I have to just be honest, I really don't see the problem with going to a beach. I haven't this
00:30:23.180
whole time. I don't really understand why people are freaking out about folks going to the beach
00:30:27.100
or going to a park. I'm not saying to go run out to the beach on my word. Don't listen to me. I've
00:30:32.800
already told you that. But I'm just telling you what my feelings are. I don't see the issue.
00:30:37.960
I mean, look at this photo that CNN has provided with their article. You look at this. I don't know
00:30:41.460
if I assume this is a photo from what the beach looked like this weekend. It's their photo.
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Okay, well, it's hard to tell in the background, but at least in the foreground, you see there are
00:30:52.300
little clumps of people, presumably families, and they're pretty nicely spaced. There
00:30:56.840
appears to be several feet in between all of them. So let me ask you, what are the chances
00:31:01.100
that somebody contracts the virus on the beach, in the heat, in the sun, when they're sitting on
00:31:06.340
the sand 10 feet or 20 feet away from the nearest other person? Even if that other person has the
00:31:11.880
virus, and even if they cough, and even if they direct their cough right in your direction, and
00:31:16.620
these are all big ifs, what are the chances even then that you would contract it 10 feet away
00:31:21.320
outside on the beach in the sun? I'm not saying it's non-existent. I'm not saying it's impossible.
00:31:26.580
I just, what are the chances? Is it nearly large enough statistically to justify even mild concern?
00:31:35.580
And if you aren't going to get the virus from somebody coughing several feet away outside,
00:31:38.960
then where will you get it? On the sand? In the seawater? I'm not saying, again, I'm not saying it's
00:31:46.020
impossible. I'm just saying it's, here's another way of thinking about it. If I were to call the
00:31:50.240
health department and say that I was on the beach and somebody with the virus coughed five yards
00:31:56.220
away, would they give me a test? Would they? Or would they be more likely to laugh me off the phone?
00:32:08.840
So, I don't know. I mean, I've taken my kids to the park several times. I admit, I confess,
00:32:15.500
I've taken my kids to the park. We've been outside walking. There's not anybody within
00:32:20.140
several feet of us. I really don't see the issue. I just don't. Number two, multiple reports last
00:32:28.940
night say that Harvey Weinstein has, or Weinstein, has tested positive for the coronavirus in prison,
00:32:35.220
which means in the span of about a week, Harvey Weinstein got sentenced to 23 years in prison,
00:32:39.700
I believe it was 23, and also then contracted coronavirus. Not a great week, I have to say.
00:32:46.580
Of all the weeks a person can have, that's probably not going to be in the top 10 in terms of
00:32:50.940
favorability ratings. But I've seen people online claiming that this is karma for Harvey Weinstein.
00:32:57.800
All I have to say is, it's a karma. Listen, if you orchestrated a whole pandemic just to get
00:33:06.140
Weinstein, then might I suggest, next time, consider being a little bit more surgical in
00:33:12.500
your approach to these matters. Just a suggestion. Far be it from me. Number three, during the
00:33:17.300
lockdowns, a group of leftist anti-Trump people have been pulling a Robin Hood Act, or at least what
00:33:22.120
they think is a Robin Hood Act, by stealing from grocery stores and giving the stolen goods to the
00:33:27.200
homeless. They took a video of themselves doing this, so check this out.
00:33:35.540
Robin Hood and Little John walking through the forest, laughing back and forth at what the other
00:33:40.340
one has to say. Reminiscing this and that and having such a good time. Oodle lolly, oodle lolly,
00:33:48.460
golly, what a day. Never, ever thinking there was danger in the water. They were drinking,
00:33:56.160
and they just guzzled it down. Never dreaming that a scheming sheriff and his posse was a
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watching them and gathering around. This just shows how false and cheap the concern for the
00:34:08.280
poor is among these people. Did you see the floors and countertops in that house? The house of the
00:34:14.060
thief? I mean, they look like faux wood and faux granite, but still, that's not a poor person's home.
00:34:20.980
That's an upper middle class home. The kind of home where you can afford to pay extra for floors
00:34:26.160
and countertops that look more expensive than they are. So I'm sure my point is that these people could
00:34:31.680
go out and afford to buy some lunches and supplies for the homeless. Instead, they steal it. They steal
00:34:38.020
it from a local grocery store where paying customers, working families, will now be deprived of those
00:34:43.080
supplies that they need and can't buy because they were stolen. This is not charity. This is not
00:34:49.980
generous. Anybody can do that. Anyone can go steal. It's also demeaning and dehumanizing to the homeless
00:34:57.100
people. You're enlisting unsuspecting homeless people as accomplices in your endeavors. You're
00:35:03.180
giving them stolen goods without telling them that's what it is. Do you think the homeless man
00:35:08.220
eating that food knew that it was just down the pants of a thief who stole it from the grocery
00:35:13.140
store? So I'll throw these people in jail and throw away the key. That's my feeling of that.
00:35:19.480
Number four, the New York Health Department has released a guide to having sex in the age of
00:35:25.040
the coronavirus because this is what we need the government for, of course, to dispense this kind
00:35:29.540
of advice. And, uh, I, I, I thought I would read some of this to you, but I, I really can't actually,
00:35:38.220
because it is so graphic in the sexual advice they're giving. But to summarize, what they're
00:35:44.840
saying is because of the coronavirus, you probably don't want to have sex with strangers. Uh, you
00:35:50.340
probably want to have sex with, you know, people who are in a close circle to you. Um, and, uh, you
00:35:57.100
probably want to just exercise precaution. So, uh, it seems what they're saying is that,
00:36:02.460
that having sex with random strangers actually isn't healthy or safe. Turns out that you should,
00:36:07.660
like, I don't know, um, maybe even be devoted to or committed to maybe even love the person you have
00:36:17.120
sex with. You might even want to consider being, what's it called? What's that thing? Uh,
00:36:23.860
married. Yeah, maybe that's it. Then you, then you really don't have to worry about it. If you're
00:36:30.360
married to your spouse and you're both quarantined, no concern. Number five, Madonna made some waves,
00:36:37.580
pun intended. You'll get it when you see the video and then you'll laugh hysterically at my pun. Uh,
00:36:41.560
it made some waves yesterday with a coronavirus related video that she posted. A lot of people are
00:36:46.500
making fun of it. I think it's insightful, poetic, philosophical, inspiring. Check it out.
00:36:51.960
That's the thing about COVID-19. It doesn't care about how rich you are, how famous you are,
00:37:03.000
how funny you are, how smart you are, where you live,
00:37:13.640
what amazing stories you can tell. It's the great equalizer. And what's terrible about it is what's
00:37:26.180
great about it. What's terrible about it is it's made us all equal in many ways.
00:37:31.400
Like I used to say at the end of human nature, I mean, we're all in the same boat.
00:37:47.120
And if the ship goes down, we're all going down together.
00:37:50.920
Yes. Yes. Jarvis, uh, please fetch a camera and a harpist. I'm in the tub covered in rose petals.
00:37:57.600
And I have some, I have some insights I'd like to share with the common folk. Yes, please.
00:38:03.080
Um, well, listen, I get why she's concerned. First of all, the disease does especially affect the
00:38:07.420
elderly. So it makes sense that she would be taking it personally, but you see how desperate
00:38:12.340
these celebrities are for attention. They're stuck in their homes without paparazzi,
00:38:16.780
without cameras in their face all the time. And it's driving them crazy. And these are the same
00:38:21.680
people who usually say they don't like all the attention. They don't like the paparazzi. Well,
00:38:24.940
you put them in a home for a week without it. And look what happens. They're, they're,
00:38:29.560
they're desperate. Anything they can do. So this is maybe one of the best reasons for stopping the
00:38:35.780
quarantine, because what are these people going to be doing in a month, a month from now? I swear,
00:38:41.600
we forget about it. We are three days away from Miley Cyrus performing ritualistic
00:38:46.500
cannibalism on Facebook live, just for attention. We are three days away from it. You heard it here
00:38:51.240
first. Now, um, we'll get to my, uh, to the daily cancellation before we wrap things up for the
00:38:57.740
day. Today, we'll be canceling MSN for the following headline. Take a look at this drug touted by Trump
00:39:05.560
to possibly treat virus can kill in just two grams. Now, some background on this. Trump has been
00:39:12.760
talking about a drug called a chloroquine. I think it's how it's pronounced, which could maybe
00:39:17.940
potentially treat the China virus. Um, and the media has been very angry at Trump for mentioning
00:39:23.340
this positive news. They don't like him mentioning positive news. In fact, CNN, which could also be
00:39:27.740
canceled, but I guess there's always an opportunity to cancel them. So I I'll let this one slide.
00:39:31.500
They accused Trump of quote, peddling unsubstantiated hope, which really takes
00:39:37.140
cynicism to a new level. I'm a cynic. And even I've never used that phrase before unsubstantiated
00:39:43.900
hope. That's not even cynical. That's like something Spock would say, or something that a
00:39:49.300
barely sentient robot, your hope is unsubstantiated. Your hope has a 3.2% probability rating unsubstantiated
00:39:58.200
hope. We rate your hope unsubstantiated. So MSN comes with this angle though. They say two grams
00:40:05.160
could kill you. Two grams. That sounds scary. Doesn't it? Sounds scary until you realize that
00:40:11.660
literally any substance you put into your body could be broken down and then categorized as
00:40:17.260
potentially deadly. So I'll give you some examples. All of these headlines are technically true,
00:40:23.020
but obviously misleading. Tylenol touted by many to treat headaches can kill in just 0.3 ounces.
00:40:30.180
Caffeine found in products sold by Starbucks and Coca-Cola can kill in just two teaspoons.
00:40:35.780
Vitamin A found in popular vegetables like carrots can cause dizziness, nausea, and death
00:40:40.620
if taken in the wrong dose. Think drinking water is a good idea? 14 people have died from consuming
00:40:47.600
too much of it. And so on. Now, I don't know anything about this drug that Trump is talking about,
00:40:54.940
but I do know that any substance can kill you if taken in the wrong dosage. And when it comes
00:41:00.280
particularly to medicines, it doesn't take much of it, which is why there's a lot of chemistry
00:41:05.780
involved in figuring out the correct dosage. But if you don't understand the chemistry, then it's
00:41:10.240
pretty easy to be terrified. And I don't understand the chemistry, so it's easy to terrify me with this
00:41:15.560
stuff. So sometimes, I mean, even I'll fall for it when I hear these headlines of, or someone says,
00:41:22.300
oh, did you know that so many different kinds of fruit have arsenic in them? Arsenic? Gasp.
00:41:29.800
Yes. Well, arsenic occurs naturally in soil and does end up in very small amounts in your apples
00:41:36.100
and your oranges. That only sounds scary because we don't know chemistry and because we watch a lot
00:41:41.400
of spy movies where arsenic is used as a poison to kill the bad guys. Now, it is that. It can be a
00:41:47.520
poison, but it's also a chemical element found in lots of stuff. And it takes lots of it to poison
00:41:53.700
you. Just like H2O can, well, in fact, water can easily kill you if even a little bit goes in your
00:41:59.520
lungs. It doesn't take much water in your lungs to kill you. And even if it goes in the right place,
00:42:05.740
even if it goes down the right tube and you drink it, even then, if you drink too much, it could kill
00:42:11.620
you. Now, granted, you'd have to drink a whole hell of a lot of it to suffer water intoxication,
00:42:16.120
but that is a real thing. People have died from it. And maybe one day, maybe if I'm in the mood,
00:42:22.440
I'll tell you, if you want a good laugh, I'll tell you the story of the time that many years ago
00:42:26.400
when I thought that I had water intoxication because I just read about it for the first time
00:42:31.240
and realized that I've been doing a lot of running in the past week and had been drinking a lot of
00:42:35.940
water. And I convinced myself that I had water intoxication and I went to the doctor to ask about
00:42:41.340
it. And the doctor laughed in my face, literally laughed. Have you ever, have you ever been laughed in
00:42:46.300
your face by a doctor? Has that ever happened to you? You want to talk about dehumanizing? There are a few
00:42:51.600
things more embarrassing than that, to have your doctor laughing at you. But yes, he did laugh and
00:42:58.520
explained to me that, no, you'd have to drink. I don't know what it is exactly, but you'd have to,
00:43:03.940
it's happened to some people, but you'd have to drink a lot, a lot, a lot. Anyway, that's not the
00:43:09.600
point today. I'm not the, I'm not the canceled one. All right. MSN is for their absurd fear-mongering
00:43:15.880
headline. And, uh, so that's the end of MSN. I've just canceled them. All right. And I suppose we
00:43:22.160
will leave it there. Uh, and hope everyone is, is hanging in there through these, uh, shutdowns.
00:43:28.180
Hopefully we'll, hopefully there's some light at the end of the tunnel. Be safe out there.
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00:44:15.900
Hey everyone, it's Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan Show. Trump is fighting the virus,
00:44:20.560
the press is fighting Trump, and Joe Biden is rambling incoherently. So even in this crisis,
00:44:25.260
everyone remains exactly who he is. We'll take a look at the way we live now on the Andrew Klavan Show.