The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 453 - Pro-Abortion Governors Pretend To Believe Life Is Precious

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, government officials are justifying their draconian lockdown measures

00:00:04.540 by saying life is precious and it's all worth it if it saves one life, that sort of thing.

00:00:10.260 But many of these officials are Democrats and therefore pro-abortion, extremely pro-abortion

00:00:15.260 in some cases. And so there seems to be a little bit of a disconnect here. And we're going to talk

00:00:20.560 about that. Also, five headlines, including the official jobless numbers for last week, are out

00:00:25.920 and they are historically bad, which actually is somewhat of an understatement. So we'll discuss

00:00:31.560 that, plus our daily cancellation and an email from somebody who wants to tell me why I'm wrong

00:00:36.540 about the argument that I laid out on the show yesterday. So we'll talk about all of that coming

00:00:42.220 up. And I hope that quarantine is treating you well so far. This is a very weird time,

00:00:48.280 very strange time. I don't know if we... It's easy to lose sight of just how strange it is that we're

00:00:54.140 all locked down. I think last I saw, half of the world's population, I think, three billion people

00:01:00.140 are on some kind of lockdown. And I don't know. You get used to it. But if I had told you six months

00:01:08.400 ago that this is what we'd be doing in March, you wouldn't have believed it. I think our capacity as

00:01:13.840 human beings for getting used to things can be good, but there's also a downside. I was saying

00:01:19.940 yesterday on the All Access Live show that I did that, you know, I think if aliens were to land on

00:01:26.920 Earth from another galaxy and start assimilating into the population, we would all be used to it

00:01:33.660 and bored with it within about four or five days. There would be maybe one or two days of, oh my God,

00:01:40.080 aliens are here. And then really quickly, we're bored. It's just, well, it's just how it is. That's

00:01:45.420 life is. I wonder if the same thing is happening with these quarantine measures. And it shouldn't

00:01:51.000 happen. I don't think we want to get used to it. Now, speaking of the quarantines, Governor Andrew

00:01:57.620 Cuomo of New York has said and repeatedly returned to the theme, as I've talked about here, that all of

00:02:04.580 the lockdowns and the quarantines in his state will be worth it if it saves just one life. That's what he

00:02:11.460 said. And other Democratic governors and mayors have made similar statements. The mayor of Los

00:02:17.100 Angeles said life is precious. That's why we're doing this. A couple of nights ago, Joe Biden

00:02:21.020 tweeted in an apparent response to Trump, who obviously has expressed his desire to open things

00:02:25.680 up again sooner rather than later, said that, quote, no one is expendable and no life is worth losing to

00:02:32.520 add one more point to the Dow. Now, the first problem with these comments is that they are manifestly

00:02:40.540 absurd. Obviously, it would not be worth it to collapse the economy to save one life. Consigning

00:02:47.380 millions to destitution to save one person would not be a fair trade. And while it is true that

00:02:53.020 nobody is expendable as an individual, it's not true that no life is worth losing in order to salvage

00:02:58.760 the economy. Biden, of course, is trying to turn the economic concerns of millions of Americans

00:03:03.880 into a quibble over points on the stock market index. But he knows better. He well knows.

00:03:10.720 It's like everybody else who's pulling this trick of saying, if you're concerned about the economy,

00:03:15.420 you're putting money over people. All you care about is your portfolio and so on.

00:03:20.140 They all know better. What's at stake here is not merely the stock market, but the livelihoods

00:03:25.340 of countless Americans. And we'll talk about this in the news portion of the show, the headline

00:03:30.320 segment. But there were over 3 million jobless claims last week, and that's only the beginning

00:03:35.860 of it. That only scratches the surface of how bad things are. 3 million. That's not about points

00:03:42.600 on the Dow, okay? Those are people. Those are people's livelihoods. So when we talk about the

00:03:48.460 jobless problem, we're talking about a problem for people, a serious problem, not a small problem.

00:03:55.020 This isn't something superficial. So what he's really arguing, Biden, that is, is that it cannot

00:04:02.300 be worth it for any individual life to be lost in order to preserve the livelihoods of many millions. 0.94

00:04:11.680 And that's simply ridiculous. As we've talked about, I talked about on the show yesterday,

00:04:19.920 we all believe that 35,000 dead on our roadways every year is a price worth paying so that we can

00:04:26.700 drive around and get from point A to point B quicker. That is a bargain. That's a calculation,

00:04:32.600 a deal that we've all made. We've all signed on to it. If you hadn't signed on to it, if you haven't

00:04:38.560 signed on to it, then you'd be out there advocating for the abolition of all automobiles.

00:04:44.280 But you're not advocating that. And so what you're saying is, okay, 35,000 people, 30 to 35,000 people

00:04:49.960 are going to die in America on the roadways every year that we allow people to drive. But I don't like

00:04:58.340 it. I'm sad about the people who die, but I'm okay with that deal so that I can get to the grocery

00:05:03.720 store faster. That's the calculation you're making. So the idea that even one dead person

00:05:11.480 is not worth it to preserve the entire economy, when we think that 35,000 dead people a year are

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00:07:10.580 Now, so all these statements from Cuomo, Biden, et cetera, et cetera, about no worth, life is worth

00:07:23.460 losing and so on. We could possibly take it in a more generous light. We could say perhaps they

00:07:29.540 aren't speaking literally. And what they really mean is simply that life is enormously precious

00:07:34.300 and great sacrifices sometimes necessary in order to preserve it. Maybe that's what they're saying.

00:07:38.500 Well, I would suggest in that case, first of all, that now is not the time for vague hyperbole and

00:07:45.080 platitudes from our leaders. And if they mean life is enormously precious and great sacrifices

00:07:50.840 sometimes necessary to preserve it, then they should just say that. They should say that.

00:07:55.380 But more to the point. We already know that these people do not actually view human life that way.

00:08:01.760 They don't think that human life is, in and of itself, precious. We know they don't think

00:08:08.920 that. Governor Cuomo just last year signed a bill into law that legalizes abortion through

00:08:14.660 every stage of pregnancy, way into viability, all the way up to birth, with the supposed stipulation

00:08:23.320 that only if the mother's health is in jeopardy. Well, the problem there is that health can be

00:08:27.820 anything. Emotional health, financial health, psychological health. So what that means is you

00:08:33.660 can get an abortion for any reason, effectively, in New York up until birth. Governor Cuomo signed that

00:08:39.760 into law. Thousands and thousands of babies are killed in New York every year. Yet Cuomo believes in

00:08:50.340 this slaughter has helped to facilitate it. The murder of, again, thousands of fully developed and viable

00:08:57.680 infants in the womb. This is Biden's view also. He's in favor of this. It's a somewhat recently adopted

00:09:04.340 view. But that's his view. So it's clear they don't think that life is precious. They don't believe that

00:09:12.800 heaven and earth should be moved to save one life, or even a million lives. A million lives are taken every

00:09:18.240 year, on average, by abortion clinics. They don't want to do anything to stop that. In fact, they want

00:09:24.300 to increase it. They want to encourage it. They do, in fact, believe that some life is expendable.

00:09:32.740 That's what they believe. I don't believe that. I would never describe life as expendable,

00:09:39.820 even if I do believe that there are risks that have to be taken in order for a society to function.

00:09:48.240 And you have to accept the fact that people are going to die. That's part, that's not just about

00:09:56.340 society. That's part of being mortals. So I believe that, yes. But I would never say that life is

00:10:02.100 expendable or worthless. That's what Democrats believe. That's not my, that's not a straw man. That's

00:10:12.400 not my characterization of it. The babies in the womb, that is human life. There's no doubt about

00:10:20.980 that. Especially as you get into the later stages during viability. Now, I would say it's human life

00:10:28.080 the whole way through. But whatever obfuscation you try to use for the very early stages, that's not

00:10:35.700 available to you when you get later on and you have a viable, physically developed infant. Okay?

00:10:42.480 Clearly, even someone who tries to create gray areas in the womb, even they can't do that for the

00:10:49.780 later stages. Yet, Governor Cuomo says, yeah, you can kill a child at that point. That life has no worth, 0.99

00:10:58.180 has no moral value. It is expendable. In fact, it has negative value, not just no value, negative value.

00:11:05.700 Because according to their ideology, the destruction of innocent life can sometimes be a positive good

00:11:10.380 and cause for celebration. Now, I don't suggest that Cuomo, Biden, or any of the rest of them

00:11:17.860 are insincere in their concern for the mostly elderly people who are being killed by the coronavirus.

00:11:23.840 I'm not saying that. I'm sure they do find the death toll quite troubling. I'm sure they do

00:11:28.260 want to prevent people from dying, just as any rational person would. But they are plainly insincere

00:11:35.540 in their concern for human life generally. That part is insincere. So we cannot take their

00:11:41.240 destroy the economy to save one life arguments literally because the literal interpretation is

00:11:45.240 insane. And we can't even take the arguments broadly and non-literally because the broad and

00:11:50.080 non-literal interpretation conflicts with their platforms and their policies. So we are left then

00:11:54.920 with no way to take these statements except as lies. Plain and simple. And that's what it is.

00:12:04.960 And it becomes quite a problem because when you've got leaders in government taking these

00:12:17.020 historic, dramatic steps, locking down the entire economy, taking people's jobs from them, their

00:12:24.920 livelihood, and then you can't trust or believe the reasons they give, well, that becomes a recipe

00:12:35.760 for disaster on many different fronts. And that's what we're facing here.

00:12:44.440 Now, let's go on to your five headlines. The U.S. Department of Labor report, and I just mentioned this,

00:12:54.300 but I think we need to get a little bit deeper into it, U.S. Department of Labor reports that more

00:12:58.680 than 3.2 million Americans filed for unemployment last week. Across the country, that's 3.2 million,

00:13:05.620 okay? Now, let me put these numbers into perspective. 3.2 million is about 1% of the

00:13:12.920 nation's population. 1% of the nation becoming unemployed in one week is very, very high.

00:13:19.440 And those who are in favor of locking down the whole economy indefinitely, they have to agree

00:13:27.760 that 1% is high because that's what they've been telling us the death rate is for the coronavirus.

00:13:33.840 It may, in fact, be much lower than that, but they say 1% and they tell us it's very high.

00:13:40.200 I agree that in that context, 1% is high. In this context, 1% is really high also.

00:13:45.580 The previous record for unemployment in one week, going all the way back to 1982, was 695,000.

00:13:56.620 Now, if you're wondering, the population was 230 million back then, so that was about half

00:14:00.740 of a percent of the population, which means in raw numbers, our unemployment claims last

00:14:05.800 week were five times higher, five times higher than the previous historic high. And in terms of

00:14:15.020 the percent of the population, it was still twice as high last week as has ever been recorded before.

00:14:22.500 So no matter how you look at it, this is utterly unprecedented. Unlike anything our country has

00:14:26.760 seen in history, the coronavirus is not and will not be the worst epidemic this country has ever

00:14:34.160 experienced. However bad it is or will be, it's not going to be that bad. When I say not that bad,

00:14:40.640 I don't mean it's not going to be that bad. I mean, it's not going to be as bad as the worst we've seen.

00:14:46.860 I think that much is clear by now. But our response to it may well bring about the worst economic crash

00:14:52.840 we've ever seen. So does that make sense? Is that proportionate? Is that balanced in your mind?

00:14:57.600 Keep something else in mind. The real number of jobless people right now, or people made jobless

00:15:04.260 last week, is way, way, way higher than 3.2 million. We don't know exactly how high it is, but

00:15:10.640 we have to remember that many types of workers don't qualify for unemployment.

00:15:15.260 Plus, there are going to be others who do qualify but don't know they do or haven't filed. And then

00:15:21.100 there are others who tried to file and couldn't because unemployment websites across the country

00:15:26.820 are crashing. And the numbers that people are calling are jammed up with everybody else calling

00:15:33.680 at the same time. So when you add all them into it, and then you also add in the number of people

00:15:40.760 who've been made jobless since this past Sunday, because we're talking about last week's numbers,

00:15:45.620 in the last two weeks, how many actual people have been made jobless? You want to talk about

00:15:53.360 exponential. It is exponentially higher than 3.2 million. I just want to take a quick second to

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00:17:38.020 hardcover book. Number two, the Senate passed its $2 trillion stimulus package. Overall, as Trump's

00:17:47.760 economic advisors tell us, the total cost of the government's relief efforts will be closer to $6

00:17:53.240 trillion. Now, I've already complained about the stimulus package many times. I think you know

00:17:58.180 my complaints. I'm not going to reiterate all of them. I will just emphasize that this deal

00:18:04.640 that gives $1,200 to some Americans with this deal, lots of people who need the money won't get it.

00:18:15.720 Lots of people who don't need it will get it. And lots of people who need it and do get it

00:18:21.340 aren't getting nearly enough. And so I'm not sure what this accomplishes. I have been in favor of

00:18:28.700 what I proposed and advocated is you give money to everybody. Give money to everybody and then

00:18:35.860 people who get it and don't need it can donate it to someone else who does need it more than they do.

00:18:40.660 And that way communities can also take part. It's a, it's sort of a collective effort between

00:18:45.420 government and communities and people. But what they're doing here is sort of the worst of all

00:18:49.860 worlds where they're, they're choosing basically arbitrarily a certain segment of the population

00:18:57.040 to give money to and giving it to everybody in that segment and nobody else outside of it.

00:19:02.280 So that there's not for, for my idea of communities helping each other and donating the money and

00:19:07.500 kind of, there's not enough of it for, for that to work now. Now we're just, we're going to exclude

00:19:13.120 some people and include everybody over here, which as I, as I have explained, you know, this means

00:19:19.280 if the cutoff is 75,000 for an individual and then it starts dwindling from there and at 99,000,

00:19:25.180 it's cut off for 98,000, I think it's, it's a, it's 99,000, right? It's, it cuts off completely.

00:19:32.900 Well, that means, you know, there are going to be plenty of people who make 60 or 70,000 a year,

00:19:40.380 single individuals and still have a job right now, working from home, still have an income,

00:19:45.460 don't need the money. They haven't lost any money. And so we're going to send them a check

00:19:49.920 anyway. Meanwhile, you're going to have a lot of people who, uh, made over 99,000 last year,

00:19:56.920 but maybe are, but are out of work right now. And maybe their business has already collapsed

00:20:03.520 and they're not getting anything. I mean, they clearly need it more than the person who's making

00:20:08.420 an income. They get nothing. The person over here, it's, it doesn't, I'm sorry. It doesn't make any

00:20:13.540 sense. And then yes, there will, there will be some people as, as the government's rolling the

00:20:20.580 dice and hoping that, uh, kind of just really just throwing darts and hoping that a few of them hit

00:20:25.920 the right people. Well, yeah, they, a few of them will, but those people, 1200 bucks, if you're,

00:20:31.760 if you're out of work now, you've been out of work for two weeks, you're probably going to be out of

00:20:34.560 work for another who knows how long, what is $1,200 going to do for you? It, maybe it'll pay the rent

00:20:41.000 depending on where you live. It's not going to buy food. You're going to have to choose buy food,

00:20:45.060 pay the rent. You know, if somebody has living expenses, um, what's the, what's the point of

00:20:53.200 spending trillions of dollars to send to some people enough money to pay half of their living

00:20:59.820 expenses for one month? I know you might say it's better than nothing, but is it? It's, it's actually,

00:21:06.340 I'm not even sure that it is. Uh, and is it worth the trillions of dollars that we're spending it?

00:21:12.780 To me, it just seems like a waste. You might as well burn the money. Might as well just take

00:21:16.320 trillions of dollars and just burn it. If this is how we're going to spend it.

00:21:21.760 Number three, uh, one of the men behind the doomsday Imperial college projections, the,

00:21:26.060 the one that scared governments across the world into putting 3 billion people under lockdown

00:21:30.080 has now suddenly adopted a more optimistic view of things. Reading now from the new scientist

00:21:35.960 says, uh, the UK should now be able to cope with the spread of COVID-19 virus. According to one of

00:21:41.040 the epidemiologists advising the government, Neil Ferguson at Imperial college London gave evidence

00:21:46.180 today to the UK's parliamentary select committee on science and technology as part of an inquiry into

00:21:51.420 the nation's response to the coronavirus outbreak. He said that expected increases in national health

00:21:56.040 service capacity and ongoing restrictions to people's movements make him reasonably confident

00:22:00.020 the health service can cope when the predicted peak of the epidemic arrives in two or three weeks.

00:22:04.420 UK deaths from the disease are now unlikely to exceed 20,000. He said, and could be much lower.

00:22:09.860 The need for intensive care beds will get very close to capacity in some areas, but won't be

00:22:13.800 breached at a national level. So at Ferguson, the projections are based on computer simulations of

00:22:17.680 the virus spreading, which take into account the properties of the virus, the reduced transmission

00:22:21.100 between people and the capacity of hospitals, particularly intensive care units. So he has,

00:22:27.240 he's one of the guys that effectively said this could be a world destroying, uh, event.

00:22:36.520 And it was the, these projections from the Imperial college of college of London are largely why we're

00:22:43.220 seeing everything we're seeing now in terms of the government's response. And now he's saying that

00:22:47.620 might not be that bad. You know, the thing is, and I, and I know that when it comes to projecting what a

00:22:55.640 virus is going to do, nobody can be a hundred percent, right? You can't look into the future.

00:23:02.820 But this also isn't something we can wave off and say, well, he was wrong. You know? Yeah. Okay. He was,

00:23:07.640 he was a little off on that. When you're making projections that cause governments to shut down

00:23:14.800 and millions to be left destitute, this isn't just a, my bad type of thing. Meanwhile, Dr. Birx during a

00:23:24.160 press conference yesterday had some words, um, about media outlets that are hyping up Armageddon.

00:23:30.940 She's, she's telling us to calm down a little, not that it isn't serious, but she is trying to put

00:23:37.860 things in perspective. So watch this. The numbers that have been put out there are actually very

00:23:43.840 frightening to people. But I can tell you, if you go back and look at Wuhan and Hubei and all of these

00:23:51.280 provinces, when they talk about 60,000 people being infected, even if you said, oh, right, well,

00:23:58.540 there's asymptomatics and all of that. So you get to 600,000 people out of 80 million.

00:24:04.040 That is nowhere close to the numbers that you see people putting out there. I think it has

00:24:10.120 frightened the American people. I think on a freely, on a model that you just run full out,

00:24:15.560 you can get to those numbers. If you have zero controls and you do nothing. And we know that

00:24:21.620 every American is doing something. Some, some much needed sanity, I think, uh, there, by the way,

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00:25:23.480 Where are we? Number four. Oh, important news here. Pete Buttigieg, according to this photo,

00:25:31.000 take a look, is now growing a beard. Here's what I don't get. And yeah, if he stops there,

00:25:38.040 then we can't call that a beard, but it looks, if he's, if he's on his way to a beard, then we

00:25:43.520 can say he's growing a beard. Um, but, but here's what I don't get. Why do these guys always wait

00:25:50.400 until they lose to grow the beard? Buttigieg did it. I think O'Rourke did it, right? Ted Cruz,

00:25:59.960 the most prominent example. Um, Ted Cruz, you know, every man can improve his appearance by

00:26:09.080 growing a beard. I think for Ted Cruz, the speaking of exponential, of the improvement was,

00:26:15.860 was exponential. And yet he waited until, you know, he lost, uh, the, the, the presidential

00:26:22.480 primary growth growth. I don't get it. This idea that if you're running for president, you have to

00:26:28.180 be baby faced, clean shaven, like some kind of freak. I don't understand that. You know, we have

00:26:36.300 not had, as I've been screaming about for years, we have not had a president with facial hair in over

00:26:42.220 a century. And look at what's happening to America right now. You think this is a coincidence?

00:26:48.560 Think about this. Think about the entire 20th century, how, how, how horrific that was in many

00:26:54.960 ways. And now we've got lockdowns, a pandemic. You think it's a coincidence? I don't think so.

00:27:02.420 Imagine if we've had bearded presidents this whole time. Imagine how much different things would be.

00:27:06.740 Bearded men obviously are better looking, smarter, better leaders, stronger. And yet we say for the 0.88

00:27:17.840 most important job in the world, for some reason, this unofficial rule, if you're running, you can't

00:27:22.120 have a beard. Makes no sense to me. Number five, the mayor of Chicago is now warning residents of

00:27:27.900 the city that they must not spend too much time outside. Even if they're, well, outside, out, out in

00:27:35.020 the open. You can't be outside for too long. Reading from CBS Chicago, visibly frustrated with

00:27:39.100 reports of gatherings throughout Chicago, Mayor Lori Lightfoot delivered a stern warning to those

00:27:43.920 who continue to get together during the COVID-19 pandemic. We will shut it down and you may be

00:27:48.540 arrested. Lightfoot said, stay at home. Only go out for essentials. You have to readjust your

00:27:54.400 thinking. Be smart. Not only will our police be deployed to shut them down if you're out, if you're

00:27:59.040 not abiding by these orders, we will be forced to shut down the parks and lakefront. Situation is

00:28:03.960 deadly serious and we need you to take it deadly seriously. Lightfoot added that spending long

00:28:08.480 periods of time outdoors anywhere is not allowed and neither is going into closed spaces like

00:28:13.620 playgrounds. You cannot go on long bike rides. Playgrounds are shut down. You must abide by the

00:28:18.800 order. Outside is for a brief respite, not for 5Ks. I can't emphasize that enough. This is, look,

00:28:27.820 I can't see this as anything other than an absurd power trip from this mayor. Now you're telling

00:28:36.200 people how long they can spend outside? You can go outside for five and a half minutes,

00:28:43.540 not one minute longer. You understand me? Give me a break. Like, how are you going to,

00:28:50.300 if you're going for a walk outside, how are you going to catch the virus? You take basic precautions.

00:28:57.900 You're going for a walk. You're not, you're, you're, you're not, you're not licking the,

00:29:03.700 bending down and licking the sidewalk. You're just going for a walk. Okay. If you pass by someone,

00:29:09.500 you give them a little bit of space. How are you going to catch it? I'm not saying it's impossible,

00:29:13.920 but, but how likely is it that a person, let's say you are running a 5K. How are you catching a virus

00:29:20.440 running a 5K? Even if as you're running somebody cough directly in your path, the chances of catching

00:29:28.520 it are still pretty damn low, but that's probably not going to happen. So it's, I understand you

00:29:38.820 don't want large gatherings and enclosed spaces. That's where you have a lot of the spreading that

00:29:43.600 goes on, but outside, really? You can't go for a walk outside. You're going to shut down the lake

00:29:51.820 front. How are you going to do that? Build a giant wall. Now we're finally going to build the wall.

00:29:56.400 What are you going to do? Armed policemen? Station there? Shoot on sight? Come on.

00:30:07.560 It's possible to say, let's take this seriously. Let's take some precautions without going all the

00:30:14.060 way to this. Screaming at people that you're going to have them arrested if they spend too much time

00:30:19.620 jogging outside. It's not a zombie apocalypse. I mean, this is what I would expect if there was an

00:30:27.040 actual zombie apocalypse. Then I would expect, stay inside your house, board up the windows,

00:30:32.000 do not go outside for any reason. I would expect that in a zombie apocalypse. But for this?

00:30:41.080 Tell me, if I'm, if I'm apparently like, if I'm in Chicago and I just want to sit on my front porch,

00:30:47.100 I'm not allowed to do that. Tell me, how do I catch the virus sitting on my front porch? Tell me how I

00:30:53.300 do. If somebody's walking by the sidewalk and I'm on my porch and they cough, how do I catch it?

00:31:01.720 Is the virus going to travel in the air, in the open, you know, 25 meters to infect me? Is there

00:31:09.940 any research suggesting that that is even slightly likely? Now for your daily cancellation.

00:31:21.780 We will once again be canceling the celebrities. The celebrities are up to their tricks again.

00:31:27.700 As we've discussed, the celebrity community is having a very hard time being locked down,

00:31:31.280 not getting attention, not having the paparazzi chasing them around. It's, it's really difficult.

00:31:35.280 And they're resorting to these increasingly desperate measures to get attention because they

00:31:39.840 need it. The way that you need water or food, they need attention. If they don't get it, it's a

00:31:44.840 biological need. They will shrivel up like raisins and die without it. So now the celebrities are

00:31:50.800 in a stunning act of bravery, taking pictures of themselves without makeup to get attention.

00:31:58.400 Now, the courage this requires is extraordinary. Imagine being an attractive person with lots of

00:32:09.420 plastic surgery already, and then having the gumption, having a fortitude, the vision to take a picture

00:32:20.880 without 18 pounds of makeup. Incredible. Simply incredible. Page six reports, they may be used to

00:32:27.940 getting glammed up for the red carpet. But just like the rest of the world, celebrities are

00:32:31.460 currently staying home and practicing social distancing during the coronavirus pandemic.

00:32:35.560 With no buzzy premieres or press events on their calendars for this time, for the time being,

00:32:39.760 these stars are skipping makeup in favor of letting their natural beauty shine through.

00:32:43.900 And they're sharing it all on social media. Below, see a selection of stars who are going the

00:32:49.300 bare-faced route. Then here's a few of the pictures, Julia Roberts, 0.97

00:32:53.060 Jessica Alba, Kaylee, Coco, I don't know who that is. Heidi Klum. Now what's going on here? What is

00:33:05.320 Heidi Klum doing? She appears to be holding a piece of, what is that, mulch? Is that a piece of mulch

00:33:12.620 she's holding? It's a piece of mulch that looks like a heart. And she has her eyes closed in peaceful

00:33:19.260 ecstasy. And someone has taken a picture of her with the sun shining behind her head,

00:33:24.140 almost making a halo effect. Now, is that what it's like to go for a walk with a supermodel? 0.72

00:33:31.220 It might sound like it'd be a lot of fun, but really, is this what happens? You're taking a

00:33:35.720 stroll and then she finds a piece of mulch that she likes. And next thing you know, you're taking

00:33:39.100 90,000 pictures from a hundred different angles. Oh my word, this mulch. Get a picture of me with

00:33:45.560 this mulch. You see this mulch? Anyway, but isn't she wearing makeup? It looks like she's wearing 0.96

00:33:53.220 makeup. I'm no expert, but that appears to be makeup. It looks like something on her lips,

00:33:56.880 some kind of makeup on her lips. I don't know. In any case, still very courageous, very brave,

00:34:01.640 simply stunning. I am speechless, especially as someone who, you know, myself, I've gone mostly

00:34:07.400 without makeup, but I still have to put on a dash of eyeliner, a bit of lipstick, some foundation,

00:34:12.420 just, you know, a little bit, a little bit to get me through. I don't have the courage to do what

00:34:17.780 they're doing. Wow. Wow. But still canceled. Okay. Let's go to emails. I'll read one email and then

00:34:26.660 we'll have a why, why you're wrong email. But first, and remember, you can become a Daily Wire member

00:34:31.640 and send emails to the mailbag. This is from Father Greg says, Hey Matt, in today's show, you talked

00:34:39.620 about soulmates. I thought it would be an interesting diversion. If I understood you

00:34:43.600 correctly, you rejected the idea of soulmates and think the concept is dangerous, as it implies

00:34:47.780 if you made the wrong choice and later meet your soulmate, you are entitled to leave your wife.

00:34:52.220 In contrast, you proposed a model of soulmates where your wife becomes your soulmate when you

00:34:56.960 make the commitment. Please correct me if I missed something. You did not. My question is,

00:35:01.620 is the distinction you laid out exhaustive? Aquinas implies that this distinction is not.

00:35:05.620 He argues with reference to the priesthood that someone can discern wrongly, in which case someone

00:35:11.040 could choose the priesthood when he was called to marriage or vice versa. Aquinas, however, goes on to

00:35:15.820 clarify that when that man is ordained or married, his calling from that point changes. This is due to

00:35:21.120 the call to universal fidelity. Could the same logic not exist with soulmates, where a man has a soulmate

00:35:28.020 and marries the wrong person, but the universal call to fidelity causes his new wife to become his

00:35:33.100 soulmate? I don't know whether the soulmates exist. I just think it was an interesting question.

00:35:37.260 Well, that's a difference between, of course, vocation. So you're talking about vocation, right? So

00:35:42.680 if someone is called to the religious life, and I do believe that many people are,

00:35:49.840 then that's a vocation. And I do believe there are many people called to it who do not heed the call.

00:35:55.220 And there are probably some people who are not called to it, and that's obvious too,

00:35:58.160 who are not called to it, and yet become religious. And the same thing could happen with marriage,

00:36:02.500 where people are called to marriage, yet they don't, that's, their vocation is marriage,

00:36:07.080 yet they don't get married, or they do get married, and that wasn't their vocation.

00:36:12.380 And it can happen in careers. You know, of course, unfortunately, with careers, it's a lot easier

00:36:17.680 to switch courses midstream. You can't really do that, or at least you shouldn't do it,

00:36:22.440 with marriage or priesthood. So that's vocation. I think that's different from this. The soulmate

00:36:28.800 thing, the idea is, if we believe there are soulmates, what we're saying is that there is one

00:36:35.720 person, one, it's not that you're called to marriage, it's that you're called to one particular

00:36:39.420 person who's out there somewhere, and that's the person you're supposed to marry. And so I would,

00:36:46.300 I still would reject that premise. I don't, I just don't think it's true. And it wouldn't even,

00:36:54.520 I don't even know exactly what it means. What exactly does that mean? That there's someone who

00:36:59.900 God has designed for you, but he's hid that person out in the world somewhere. So it's like,

00:37:04.480 where's Waldo? Right? And you could choose the wrong person, and now you're stuck with that person

00:37:10.680 instead. So to me, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't seem like a particularly wise way to set

00:37:21.560 up, set things up. So I wouldn't, I wouldn't expect that God is all wise and all knowing would.

00:37:28.180 And again, as you say, once you become married, then that person is your soulmate.

00:37:34.560 So why do we need a pre-marriage soulmate? So I would say, you know, when you meet somebody,

00:37:45.720 if you're single and you meet someone, and you say, this person is not my soulmate, well, they're not.

00:37:52.280 They could become that if you get married, but right now they're not.

00:37:57.220 Let's see. Arthur says, hopefully you'll read this. This, this Arthur wants to tell me why I'm wrong

00:38:02.460 about something. He says, there's a distinction I think you might be missing between shutting things

00:38:05.520 down for the virus as opposed to cars. Cars are voluntary. It's true that getting in a car can

00:38:10.780 kill you, but that a risk you, that's a risk you acknowledge when you get in a car and start

00:38:15.520 driving it. It's an inherent risk that you know about and choose to accept. There are alternatives 0.98

00:38:23.820 to driving. I'm not saying that it's good. I'm saying that the government's responsibility

00:38:27.160 isn't to regulate an accepted risk. If Iris, on the other hand, cannot be avoided reasonably because

00:38:33.420 of how the transmission works from person to person, that is when the government has a responsibility to

00:38:37.440 step in and help people. I'm not saying that the government has picked the best option when it

00:38:41.000 comes to COVID-19 response, but I am saying that there's a difference between the two and furthermore,

00:38:45.720 hindsight is 20-20. Okay. Right. But I think, again, you're kind of missing the point, Arthur. I don't,

00:38:53.460 I don't think that this has anything to do with what I'm talking about. And first of all, you say

00:38:59.620 that the government doesn't have a responsibility to regulate an accepted risk. They do regulate

00:39:06.160 driving. They regulate the hell out of driving in order to mitigate the risk. Yet we still know that

00:39:12.360 there is a risk. And even with all those mitigation efforts, there are going to be 30,000 to 35,000

00:39:17.820 people who die on the roadways. And that number is only going to go up probably as, uh, as, as the

00:39:23.700 population increases. So we, we know that. And what you're again, getting into the confusion I think

00:39:29.380 you have is you're, you're talking about the specific differences between a virus and car

00:39:35.120 accidents and how one is more dangerous than the other. And one is more avoidable than the other.

00:39:39.800 Uh, now you say that there's nothing we can reasonably do to avoid getting a virus. I disagree with

00:39:43.940 that. I think there are a lot of things we could do. That's why we're talking about washing. Look,

00:39:47.200 if you wash your hands, you've already done quite a lot to avoid getting the virus. If you,

00:39:52.680 if you don't touch your face, you've done quite a lot. Now, as you can see, when I do this show, I,

00:39:56.800 I'm very bad at that part of it, but I do wash my hands a lot. So hopefully it's okay.

00:40:01.540 Um, I'm also not leaving my house. So at the same time, I feel like maybe touching my face isn't a

00:40:05.560 big deal. Either way, there are, there's plenty we can do to, to avoid getting a virus, but that's,

00:40:09.700 all of that is irrelevant. How dangerous it is, how much it can be avoided. All of that is,

00:40:14.280 that's not the point. My point is simply this to say it again. Uh, every year that we allow people

00:40:24.260 to drive their cars, 30 to 35,000 people will die. And across the world, it'd be a million people

00:40:30.580 or thereabouts. And there will be tens of thousands more, if not hundreds of thousands more, I don't

00:40:35.320 know who are, who are seriously injured, maimed, maimed, or crippled in car accidents.

00:40:38.800 We know that is the cost of having our cars. And yet nobody says, let's get rid of cars. And so

00:40:48.380 what we are, the calculation we have made, the bargain we have made, the deal we've made is,

00:40:54.200 um, those 35,000 dead are a price worth paying so that we can drive.

00:41:00.780 We don't want to put it that way. We don't want to think of it that way.

00:41:06.740 We're not saying that it would be worth it to actively kill 35,000 people to like appease the

00:41:14.280 gods or something so that we can drive. That's not the point. Okay. We're not, we're not saying

00:41:19.160 that we should go out and kill 35,000 people ourselves in order to drive. What we're saying 0.53

00:41:24.360 is if people drive, 35,000 people or thereabouts will die. We don't want them to, but they will.

00:41:30.780 And although we're very sad about that, we will accept that side effect.

00:41:42.440 And then we bring that over to the COVID-19 discussion. And we say, okay, um,

00:41:49.500 in order to preserve our economy, we know what we're willing to accept in order to preserve our

00:41:54.040 ability to drive. What are we willing to accept in terms of a death toll in order to preserve

00:42:00.720 our economy and our way of life and our livelihoods, our cars, along with our homes and our retirement

00:42:06.880 savings and the food in our fridge and everything else? What are we willing to accept there in terms

00:42:12.600 of risk, in terms of potential death toll? It's got to be way over 35,000. So what is it? I don't know.

00:42:21.940 I'm just saying that's the point. That's the ethical question that we're dealing with.

00:42:25.740 All right. But thank you for that email. And, uh, we will cut it off there. Thanks everybody for

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The Matt Walsh Show - March 26, 2020

Ep. 453 - Pro-Abortion Governors Pretend To Believe Life Is Precious

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