The Matt Walsh Show - March 26, 2020


Ep. 453 - Pro-Abortion Governors Pretend To Believe Life Is Precious


Episode Stats

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43 minutes

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171.4974

Word Count

7,475

Sentence Count

523

Misogynist Sentences

3

Hate Speech Sentences

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Summary

It's a weird time, a very strange time, and it's easy to lose sight of just how strange it is that we're all locked down. Government officials are justifying their draconian lockdown measures by saying life is precious, and that it's all worth it if it saves one life. But many of these officials are Democrats and therefore pro-abortion, in some cases. And so there seems to be a little bit of a disconnect here. Also, five headlines, including the official jobless numbers for last week, are out and they are historically bad, which actually is somewhat of an understatement. Plus, we'll discuss that, plus our daily cancellation and an email from someone who wants to tell me why I'm wrong about the argument I laid out on the show yesterday.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, government officials are justifying their draconian lockdown measures
00:00:04.540 by saying life is precious and it's all worth it if it saves one life, that sort of thing.
00:00:10.260 But many of these officials are Democrats and therefore pro-abortion, extremely pro-abortion
00:00:15.260 in some cases. And so there seems to be a little bit of a disconnect here. And we're going to talk
00:00:20.560 about that. Also, five headlines, including the official jobless numbers for last week, are out
00:00:25.920 and they are historically bad, which actually is somewhat of an understatement. So we'll discuss
00:00:31.560 that, plus our daily cancellation and an email from somebody who wants to tell me why I'm wrong
00:00:36.540 about the argument that I laid out on the show yesterday. So we'll talk about all of that coming
00:00:42.220 up. And I hope that quarantine is treating you well so far. This is a very weird time,
00:00:48.280 very strange time. I don't know if we... It's easy to lose sight of just how strange it is that we're
00:00:54.140 all locked down. I think last I saw, half of the world's population, I think, three billion people
00:01:00.140 are on some kind of lockdown. And I don't know. You get used to it. But if I had told you six months
00:01:08.400 ago that this is what we'd be doing in March, you wouldn't have believed it. I think our capacity as
00:01:13.840 human beings for getting used to things can be good, but there's also a downside. I was saying
00:01:19.940 yesterday on the All Access Live show that I did that, you know, I think if aliens were to land on
00:01:26.920 Earth from another galaxy and start assimilating into the population, we would all be used to it
00:01:33.660 and bored with it within about four or five days. There would be maybe one or two days of, oh my God,
00:01:40.080 aliens are here. And then really quickly, we're bored. It's just, well, it's just how it is. That's
00:01:45.420 life is. I wonder if the same thing is happening with these quarantine measures. And it shouldn't
00:01:51.000 happen. I don't think we want to get used to it. Now, speaking of the quarantines, Governor Andrew
00:01:57.620 Cuomo of New York has said and repeatedly returned to the theme, as I've talked about here, that all of
00:02:04.580 the lockdowns and the quarantines in his state will be worth it if it saves just one life. That's what he
00:02:11.460 said. And other Democratic governors and mayors have made similar statements. The mayor of Los
00:02:17.100 Angeles said life is precious. That's why we're doing this. A couple of nights ago, Joe Biden
00:02:21.020 tweeted in an apparent response to Trump, who obviously has expressed his desire to open things
00:02:25.680 up again sooner rather than later, said that, quote, no one is expendable and no life is worth losing to
00:02:32.520 add one more point to the Dow. Now, the first problem with these comments is that they are manifestly
00:02:40.540 absurd. Obviously, it would not be worth it to collapse the economy to save one life. Consigning
00:02:47.380 millions to destitution to save one person would not be a fair trade. And while it is true that
00:02:53.020 nobody is expendable as an individual, it's not true that no life is worth losing in order to salvage
00:02:58.760 the economy. Biden, of course, is trying to turn the economic concerns of millions of Americans
00:03:03.880 into a quibble over points on the stock market index. But he knows better. He well knows.
00:03:10.720 It's like everybody else who's pulling this trick of saying, if you're concerned about the economy,
00:03:15.420 you're putting money over people. All you care about is your portfolio and so on.
00:03:20.140 They all know better. What's at stake here is not merely the stock market, but the livelihoods
00:03:25.340 of countless Americans. And we'll talk about this in the news portion of the show, the headline
00:03:30.320 segment. But there were over 3 million jobless claims last week, and that's only the beginning
00:03:35.860 of it. That only scratches the surface of how bad things are. 3 million. That's not about points
00:03:42.600 on the Dow, okay? Those are people. Those are people's livelihoods. So when we talk about the
00:03:48.460 jobless problem, we're talking about a problem for people, a serious problem, not a small problem.
00:03:55.020 This isn't something superficial. So what he's really arguing, Biden, that is, is that it cannot
00:04:02.300 be worth it for any individual life to be lost in order to preserve the livelihoods of many millions.
00:04:11.680 And that's simply ridiculous. As we've talked about, I talked about on the show yesterday,
00:04:19.920 we all believe that 35,000 dead on our roadways every year is a price worth paying so that we can
00:04:26.700 drive around and get from point A to point B quicker. That is a bargain. That's a calculation,
00:04:32.600 a deal that we've all made. We've all signed on to it. If you hadn't signed on to it, if you haven't
00:04:38.560 signed on to it, then you'd be out there advocating for the abolition of all automobiles.
00:04:44.280 But you're not advocating that. And so what you're saying is, okay, 35,000 people, 30 to 35,000 people
00:04:49.960 are going to die in America on the roadways every year that we allow people to drive. But I don't like
00:04:58.340 it. I'm sad about the people who die, but I'm okay with that deal so that I can get to the grocery
00:05:03.720 store faster. That's the calculation you're making. So the idea that even one dead person
00:05:11.480 is not worth it to preserve the entire economy, when we think that 35,000 dead people a year are
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00:07:10.580 Now, so all these statements from Cuomo, Biden, et cetera, et cetera, about no worth, life is worth
00:07:23.460 losing and so on. We could possibly take it in a more generous light. We could say perhaps they
00:07:29.540 aren't speaking literally. And what they really mean is simply that life is enormously precious
00:07:34.300 and great sacrifices sometimes necessary in order to preserve it. Maybe that's what they're saying.
00:07:38.500 Well, I would suggest in that case, first of all, that now is not the time for vague hyperbole and
00:07:45.080 platitudes from our leaders. And if they mean life is enormously precious and great sacrifices
00:07:50.840 sometimes necessary to preserve it, then they should just say that. They should say that.
00:07:55.380 But more to the point. We already know that these people do not actually view human life that way.
00:08:01.760 They don't think that human life is, in and of itself, precious. We know they don't think
00:08:08.920 that. Governor Cuomo just last year signed a bill into law that legalizes abortion through
00:08:14.660 every stage of pregnancy, way into viability, all the way up to birth, with the supposed stipulation
00:08:23.320 that only if the mother's health is in jeopardy. Well, the problem there is that health can be
00:08:27.820 anything. Emotional health, financial health, psychological health. So what that means is you
00:08:33.660 can get an abortion for any reason, effectively, in New York up until birth. Governor Cuomo signed that
00:08:39.760 into law. Thousands and thousands of babies are killed in New York every year. Yet Cuomo believes in
00:08:50.340 this slaughter has helped to facilitate it. The murder of, again, thousands of fully developed and viable
00:08:57.680 infants in the womb. This is Biden's view also. He's in favor of this. It's a somewhat recently adopted
00:09:04.340 view. But that's his view. So it's clear they don't think that life is precious. They don't believe that
00:09:12.800 heaven and earth should be moved to save one life, or even a million lives. A million lives are taken every
00:09:18.240 year, on average, by abortion clinics. They don't want to do anything to stop that. In fact, they want
00:09:24.300 to increase it. They want to encourage it. They do, in fact, believe that some life is expendable.
00:09:32.740 That's what they believe. I don't believe that. I would never describe life as expendable,
00:09:39.820 even if I do believe that there are risks that have to be taken in order for a society to function.
00:09:48.240 And you have to accept the fact that people are going to die. That's part, that's not just about
00:09:56.340 society. That's part of being mortals. So I believe that, yes. But I would never say that life is
00:10:02.100 expendable or worthless. That's what Democrats believe. That's not my, that's not a straw man. That's
00:10:12.400 not my characterization of it. The babies in the womb, that is human life. There's no doubt about
00:10:20.980 that. Especially as you get into the later stages during viability. Now, I would say it's human life
00:10:28.080 the whole way through. But whatever obfuscation you try to use for the very early stages, that's not
00:10:35.700 available to you when you get later on and you have a viable, physically developed infant. Okay?
00:10:42.480 Clearly, even someone who tries to create gray areas in the womb, even they can't do that for the
00:10:49.780 later stages. Yet, Governor Cuomo says, yeah, you can kill a child at that point. That life has no worth,
00:10:58.180 has no moral value. It is expendable. In fact, it has negative value, not just no value, negative value.
00:11:05.700 Because according to their ideology, the destruction of innocent life can sometimes be a positive good
00:11:10.380 and cause for celebration. Now, I don't suggest that Cuomo, Biden, or any of the rest of them
00:11:17.860 are insincere in their concern for the mostly elderly people who are being killed by the coronavirus.
00:11:23.840 I'm not saying that. I'm sure they do find the death toll quite troubling. I'm sure they do
00:11:28.260 want to prevent people from dying, just as any rational person would. But they are plainly insincere
00:11:35.540 in their concern for human life generally. That part is insincere. So we cannot take their
00:11:41.240 destroy the economy to save one life arguments literally because the literal interpretation is
00:11:45.240 insane. And we can't even take the arguments broadly and non-literally because the broad and
00:11:50.080 non-literal interpretation conflicts with their platforms and their policies. So we are left then
00:11:54.920 with no way to take these statements except as lies. Plain and simple. And that's what it is.
00:12:04.960 And it becomes quite a problem because when you've got leaders in government taking these
00:12:17.020 historic, dramatic steps, locking down the entire economy, taking people's jobs from them, their
00:12:24.920 livelihood, and then you can't trust or believe the reasons they give, well, that becomes a recipe
00:12:35.760 for disaster on many different fronts. And that's what we're facing here.
00:12:44.440 Now, let's go on to your five headlines. The U.S. Department of Labor report, and I just mentioned this,
00:12:54.300 but I think we need to get a little bit deeper into it, U.S. Department of Labor reports that more
00:12:58.680 than 3.2 million Americans filed for unemployment last week. Across the country, that's 3.2 million,
00:13:05.620 okay? Now, let me put these numbers into perspective. 3.2 million is about 1% of the
00:13:12.920 nation's population. 1% of the nation becoming unemployed in one week is very, very high.
00:13:19.440 And those who are in favor of locking down the whole economy indefinitely, they have to agree
00:13:27.760 that 1% is high because that's what they've been telling us the death rate is for the coronavirus.
00:13:33.840 It may, in fact, be much lower than that, but they say 1% and they tell us it's very high.
00:13:40.200 I agree that in that context, 1% is high. In this context, 1% is really high also.
00:13:45.580 The previous record for unemployment in one week, going all the way back to 1982, was 695,000.
00:13:56.620 Now, if you're wondering, the population was 230 million back then, so that was about half
00:14:00.740 of a percent of the population, which means in raw numbers, our unemployment claims last
00:14:05.800 week were five times higher, five times higher than the previous historic high. And in terms of
00:14:15.020 the percent of the population, it was still twice as high last week as has ever been recorded before.
00:14:22.500 So no matter how you look at it, this is utterly unprecedented. Unlike anything our country has
00:14:26.760 seen in history, the coronavirus is not and will not be the worst epidemic this country has ever
00:14:34.160 experienced. However bad it is or will be, it's not going to be that bad. When I say not that bad,
00:14:40.640 I don't mean it's not going to be that bad. I mean, it's not going to be as bad as the worst we've seen.
00:14:46.860 I think that much is clear by now. But our response to it may well bring about the worst economic crash
00:14:52.840 we've ever seen. So does that make sense? Is that proportionate? Is that balanced in your mind?
00:14:57.600 Keep something else in mind. The real number of jobless people right now, or people made jobless
00:15:04.260 last week, is way, way, way higher than 3.2 million. We don't know exactly how high it is, but
00:15:10.640 we have to remember that many types of workers don't qualify for unemployment.
00:15:15.260 Plus, there are going to be others who do qualify but don't know they do or haven't filed. And then
00:15:21.100 there are others who tried to file and couldn't because unemployment websites across the country
00:15:26.820 are crashing. And the numbers that people are calling are jammed up with everybody else calling
00:15:33.680 at the same time. So when you add all them into it, and then you also add in the number of people
00:15:40.760 who've been made jobless since this past Sunday, because we're talking about last week's numbers,
00:15:45.620 in the last two weeks, how many actual people have been made jobless? You want to talk about
00:15:53.360 exponential. It is exponentially higher than 3.2 million. I just want to take a quick second to
00:15:58.360 tell you about a new book that's out. Listen, we're all quarantined. We're locked down. And if
00:16:02.180 you don't want to spend all of your time watching TV or just staring at a blank wall, I've resorted to
00:16:07.620 that a few times, a great way to kill some time is to have a very good book. And fortunately, I've got
00:16:12.520 one I can tell you about. Joel C. Rosenberg is a New York Times bestselling author.
00:16:15.620 who draws from extensive research and real-life meetings with world leaders for his fact-based
00:16:20.580 fiction. And his books have been read and enjoyed by lots of high-ranking people, including Vice
00:16:25.160 President Pence and others. Joel's new novel, The Jerusalem Assassin, centers around a fictional
00:16:29.060 American president who's ready to roll out a Middle East peace plan. As the time draws near to
00:16:33.940 announce the peace plan in Jerusalem, high-ranking American officials begin to be assassinated one by
00:16:38.480 one. CIA operative Marcus Reichert has spent his career studying killers, and now he has to
00:16:43.900 think like one to stop a deadly threat. This is a fast-paced book, edge-of-your-seat thriller
00:16:49.820 kind of book. And although a lot of the subject matter is very, very related to the real world
00:16:55.080 and serious, it does take you out of everything we're dealing with now a little bit and absorbs
00:17:00.920 you in a fascinating story. And then you avoid the unbearable boredom. And we know that boredom
00:17:08.280 can be deadly. Boredom is the devil's playground. Isn't that the saying? Something like that.
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00:17:38.020 hardcover book. Number two, the Senate passed its $2 trillion stimulus package. Overall, as Trump's
00:17:47.760 economic advisors tell us, the total cost of the government's relief efforts will be closer to $6
00:17:53.240 trillion. Now, I've already complained about the stimulus package many times. I think you know
00:17:58.180 my complaints. I'm not going to reiterate all of them. I will just emphasize that this deal
00:18:04.640 that gives $1,200 to some Americans with this deal, lots of people who need the money won't get it.
00:18:15.720 Lots of people who don't need it will get it. And lots of people who need it and do get it
00:18:21.340 aren't getting nearly enough. And so I'm not sure what this accomplishes. I have been in favor of
00:18:28.700 what I proposed and advocated is you give money to everybody. Give money to everybody and then
00:18:35.860 people who get it and don't need it can donate it to someone else who does need it more than they do.
00:18:40.660 And that way communities can also take part. It's a, it's sort of a collective effort between
00:18:45.420 government and communities and people. But what they're doing here is sort of the worst of all
00:18:49.860 worlds where they're, they're choosing basically arbitrarily a certain segment of the population
00:18:57.040 to give money to and giving it to everybody in that segment and nobody else outside of it.
00:19:02.280 So that there's not for, for my idea of communities helping each other and donating the money and
00:19:07.500 kind of, there's not enough of it for, for that to work now. Now we're just, we're going to exclude
00:19:13.120 some people and include everybody over here, which as I, as I have explained, you know, this means
00:19:19.280 if the cutoff is 75,000 for an individual and then it starts dwindling from there and at 99,000,
00:19:25.180 it's cut off for 98,000, I think it's, it's a, it's 99,000, right? It's, it cuts off completely.
00:19:32.900 Well, that means, you know, there are going to be plenty of people who make 60 or 70,000 a year,
00:19:40.380 single individuals and still have a job right now, working from home, still have an income,
00:19:45.460 don't need the money. They haven't lost any money. And so we're going to send them a check
00:19:49.920 anyway. Meanwhile, you're going to have a lot of people who, uh, made over 99,000 last year,
00:19:56.920 but maybe are, but are out of work right now. And maybe their business has already collapsed
00:20:03.520 and they're not getting anything. I mean, they clearly need it more than the person who's making
00:20:08.420 an income. They get nothing. The person over here, it's, it doesn't, I'm sorry. It doesn't make any
00:20:13.540 sense. And then yes, there will, there will be some people as, as the government's rolling the
00:20:20.580 dice and hoping that, uh, kind of just really just throwing darts and hoping that a few of them hit
00:20:25.920 the right people. Well, yeah, they, a few of them will, but those people, 1200 bucks, if you're,
00:20:31.760 if you're out of work now, you've been out of work for two weeks, you're probably going to be out of
00:20:34.560 work for another who knows how long, what is $1,200 going to do for you? It, maybe it'll pay the rent
00:20:41.000 depending on where you live. It's not going to buy food. You're going to have to choose buy food,
00:20:45.060 pay the rent. You know, if somebody has living expenses, um, what's the, what's the point of
00:20:53.200 spending trillions of dollars to send to some people enough money to pay half of their living
00:20:59.820 expenses for one month? I know you might say it's better than nothing, but is it? It's, it's actually,
00:21:06.340 I'm not even sure that it is. Uh, and is it worth the trillions of dollars that we're spending it?
00:21:12.780 To me, it just seems like a waste. You might as well burn the money. Might as well just take
00:21:16.320 trillions of dollars and just burn it. If this is how we're going to spend it.
00:21:21.760 Number three, uh, one of the men behind the doomsday Imperial college projections, the,
00:21:26.060 the one that scared governments across the world into putting 3 billion people under lockdown
00:21:30.080 has now suddenly adopted a more optimistic view of things. Reading now from the new scientist
00:21:35.960 says, uh, the UK should now be able to cope with the spread of COVID-19 virus. According to one of
00:21:41.040 the epidemiologists advising the government, Neil Ferguson at Imperial college London gave evidence
00:21:46.180 today to the UK's parliamentary select committee on science and technology as part of an inquiry into
00:21:51.420 the nation's response to the coronavirus outbreak. He said that expected increases in national health
00:21:56.040 service capacity and ongoing restrictions to people's movements make him reasonably confident
00:22:00.020 the health service can cope when the predicted peak of the epidemic arrives in two or three weeks.
00:22:04.420 UK deaths from the disease are now unlikely to exceed 20,000. He said, and could be much lower.
00:22:09.860 The need for intensive care beds will get very close to capacity in some areas, but won't be
00:22:13.800 breached at a national level. So at Ferguson, the projections are based on computer simulations of
00:22:17.680 the virus spreading, which take into account the properties of the virus, the reduced transmission
00:22:21.100 between people and the capacity of hospitals, particularly intensive care units. So he has,
00:22:27.240 he's one of the guys that effectively said this could be a world destroying, uh, event.
00:22:36.520 And it was the, these projections from the Imperial college of college of London are largely why we're
00:22:43.220 seeing everything we're seeing now in terms of the government's response. And now he's saying that
00:22:47.620 might not be that bad. You know, the thing is, and I, and I know that when it comes to projecting what a
00:22:55.640 virus is going to do, nobody can be a hundred percent, right? You can't look into the future.
00:23:02.820 But this also isn't something we can wave off and say, well, he was wrong. You know? Yeah. Okay. He was,
00:23:07.640 he was a little off on that. When you're making projections that cause governments to shut down
00:23:14.800 and millions to be left destitute, this isn't just a, my bad type of thing. Meanwhile, Dr. Birx during a
00:23:24.160 press conference yesterday had some words, um, about media outlets that are hyping up Armageddon.
00:23:30.940 She's, she's telling us to calm down a little, not that it isn't serious, but she is trying to put
00:23:37.860 things in perspective. So watch this. The numbers that have been put out there are actually very
00:23:43.840 frightening to people. But I can tell you, if you go back and look at Wuhan and Hubei and all of these
00:23:51.280 provinces, when they talk about 60,000 people being infected, even if you said, oh, right, well,
00:23:58.540 there's asymptomatics and all of that. So you get to 600,000 people out of 80 million.
00:24:04.040 That is nowhere close to the numbers that you see people putting out there. I think it has
00:24:10.120 frightened the American people. I think on a freely, on a model that you just run full out,
00:24:15.560 you can get to those numbers. If you have zero controls and you do nothing. And we know that
00:24:21.620 every American is doing something. Some, some much needed sanity, I think, uh, there, by the way,
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00:25:23.480 Where are we? Number four. Oh, important news here. Pete Buttigieg, according to this photo,
00:25:31.000 take a look, is now growing a beard. Here's what I don't get. And yeah, if he stops there,
00:25:38.040 then we can't call that a beard, but it looks, if he's, if he's on his way to a beard, then we
00:25:43.520 can say he's growing a beard. Um, but, but here's what I don't get. Why do these guys always wait
00:25:50.400 until they lose to grow the beard? Buttigieg did it. I think O'Rourke did it, right? Ted Cruz,
00:25:59.960 the most prominent example. Um, Ted Cruz, you know, every man can improve his appearance by
00:26:09.080 growing a beard. I think for Ted Cruz, the speaking of exponential, of the improvement was,
00:26:15.860 was exponential. And yet he waited until, you know, he lost, uh, the, the, the presidential
00:26:22.480 primary growth growth. I don't get it. This idea that if you're running for president, you have to
00:26:28.180 be baby faced, clean shaven, like some kind of freak. I don't understand that. You know, we have
00:26:36.300 not had, as I've been screaming about for years, we have not had a president with facial hair in over
00:26:42.220 a century. And look at what's happening to America right now. You think this is a coincidence?
00:26:48.560 Think about this. Think about the entire 20th century, how, how, how horrific that was in many
00:26:54.960 ways. And now we've got lockdowns, a pandemic. You think it's a coincidence? I don't think so.
00:27:02.420 Imagine if we've had bearded presidents this whole time. Imagine how much different things would be.
00:27:06.740 Bearded men obviously are better looking, smarter, better leaders, stronger. And yet we say for the
00:27:17.840 most important job in the world, for some reason, this unofficial rule, if you're running, you can't
00:27:22.120 have a beard. Makes no sense to me. Number five, the mayor of Chicago is now warning residents of
00:27:27.900 the city that they must not spend too much time outside. Even if they're, well, outside, out, out in
00:27:35.020 the open. You can't be outside for too long. Reading from CBS Chicago, visibly frustrated with
00:27:39.100 reports of gatherings throughout Chicago, Mayor Lori Lightfoot delivered a stern warning to those
00:27:43.920 who continue to get together during the COVID-19 pandemic. We will shut it down and you may be
00:27:48.540 arrested. Lightfoot said, stay at home. Only go out for essentials. You have to readjust your
00:27:54.400 thinking. Be smart. Not only will our police be deployed to shut them down if you're out, if you're
00:27:59.040 not abiding by these orders, we will be forced to shut down the parks and lakefront. Situation is
00:28:03.960 deadly serious and we need you to take it deadly seriously. Lightfoot added that spending long
00:28:08.480 periods of time outdoors anywhere is not allowed and neither is going into closed spaces like
00:28:13.620 playgrounds. You cannot go on long bike rides. Playgrounds are shut down. You must abide by the
00:28:18.800 order. Outside is for a brief respite, not for 5Ks. I can't emphasize that enough. This is, look,
00:28:27.820 I can't see this as anything other than an absurd power trip from this mayor. Now you're telling
00:28:36.200 people how long they can spend outside? You can go outside for five and a half minutes,
00:28:43.540 not one minute longer. You understand me? Give me a break. Like, how are you going to,
00:28:50.300 if you're going for a walk outside, how are you going to catch the virus? You take basic precautions.
00:28:57.900 You're going for a walk. You're not, you're, you're, you're not, you're not licking the,
00:29:03.700 bending down and licking the sidewalk. You're just going for a walk. Okay. If you pass by someone,
00:29:09.500 you give them a little bit of space. How are you going to catch it? I'm not saying it's impossible,
00:29:13.920 but, but how likely is it that a person, let's say you are running a 5K. How are you catching a virus
00:29:20.440 running a 5K? Even if as you're running somebody cough directly in your path, the chances of catching
00:29:28.520 it are still pretty damn low, but that's probably not going to happen. So it's, I understand you
00:29:38.820 don't want large gatherings and enclosed spaces. That's where you have a lot of the spreading that
00:29:43.600 goes on, but outside, really? You can't go for a walk outside. You're going to shut down the lake
00:29:51.820 front. How are you going to do that? Build a giant wall. Now we're finally going to build the wall.
00:29:56.400 What are you going to do? Armed policemen? Station there? Shoot on sight? Come on.
00:30:07.560 It's possible to say, let's take this seriously. Let's take some precautions without going all the
00:30:14.060 way to this. Screaming at people that you're going to have them arrested if they spend too much time
00:30:19.620 jogging outside. It's not a zombie apocalypse. I mean, this is what I would expect if there was an
00:30:27.040 actual zombie apocalypse. Then I would expect, stay inside your house, board up the windows,
00:30:32.000 do not go outside for any reason. I would expect that in a zombie apocalypse. But for this?
00:30:41.080 Tell me, if I'm, if I'm apparently like, if I'm in Chicago and I just want to sit on my front porch,
00:30:47.100 I'm not allowed to do that. Tell me, how do I catch the virus sitting on my front porch? Tell me how I
00:30:53.300 do. If somebody's walking by the sidewalk and I'm on my porch and they cough, how do I catch it?
00:31:01.720 Is the virus going to travel in the air, in the open, you know, 25 meters to infect me? Is there
00:31:09.940 any research suggesting that that is even slightly likely? Now for your daily cancellation.
00:31:21.780 We will once again be canceling the celebrities. The celebrities are up to their tricks again.
00:31:27.700 As we've discussed, the celebrity community is having a very hard time being locked down,
00:31:31.280 not getting attention, not having the paparazzi chasing them around. It's, it's really difficult.
00:31:35.280 And they're resorting to these increasingly desperate measures to get attention because they
00:31:39.840 need it. The way that you need water or food, they need attention. If they don't get it, it's a
00:31:44.840 biological need. They will shrivel up like raisins and die without it. So now the celebrities are
00:31:50.800 in a stunning act of bravery, taking pictures of themselves without makeup to get attention.
00:31:58.400 Now, the courage this requires is extraordinary. Imagine being an attractive person with lots of
00:32:09.420 plastic surgery already, and then having the gumption, having a fortitude, the vision to take a picture
00:32:20.880 without 18 pounds of makeup. Incredible. Simply incredible. Page six reports, they may be used to
00:32:27.940 getting glammed up for the red carpet. But just like the rest of the world, celebrities are
00:32:31.460 currently staying home and practicing social distancing during the coronavirus pandemic.
00:32:35.560 With no buzzy premieres or press events on their calendars for this time, for the time being,
00:32:39.760 these stars are skipping makeup in favor of letting their natural beauty shine through.
00:32:43.900 And they're sharing it all on social media. Below, see a selection of stars who are going the
00:32:49.300 bare-faced route. Then here's a few of the pictures, Julia Roberts,
00:32:53.060 Jessica Alba, Kaylee, Coco, I don't know who that is. Heidi Klum. Now what's going on here? What is
00:33:05.320 Heidi Klum doing? She appears to be holding a piece of, what is that, mulch? Is that a piece of mulch
00:33:12.620 she's holding? It's a piece of mulch that looks like a heart. And she has her eyes closed in peaceful
00:33:19.260 ecstasy. And someone has taken a picture of her with the sun shining behind her head,
00:33:24.140 almost making a halo effect. Now, is that what it's like to go for a walk with a supermodel?
00:33:31.220 It might sound like it'd be a lot of fun, but really, is this what happens? You're taking a
00:33:35.720 stroll and then she finds a piece of mulch that she likes. And next thing you know, you're taking
00:33:39.100 90,000 pictures from a hundred different angles. Oh my word, this mulch. Get a picture of me with
00:33:45.560 this mulch. You see this mulch? Anyway, but isn't she wearing makeup? It looks like she's wearing
00:33:53.220 makeup. I'm no expert, but that appears to be makeup. It looks like something on her lips,
00:33:56.880 some kind of makeup on her lips. I don't know. In any case, still very courageous, very brave,
00:34:01.640 simply stunning. I am speechless, especially as someone who, you know, myself, I've gone mostly
00:34:07.400 without makeup, but I still have to put on a dash of eyeliner, a bit of lipstick, some foundation,
00:34:12.420 just, you know, a little bit, a little bit to get me through. I don't have the courage to do what
00:34:17.780 they're doing. Wow. Wow. But still canceled. Okay. Let's go to emails. I'll read one email and then
00:34:26.660 we'll have a why, why you're wrong email. But first, and remember, you can become a Daily Wire member
00:34:31.640 and send emails to the mailbag. This is from Father Greg says, Hey Matt, in today's show, you talked
00:34:39.620 about soulmates. I thought it would be an interesting diversion. If I understood you
00:34:43.600 correctly, you rejected the idea of soulmates and think the concept is dangerous, as it implies
00:34:47.780 if you made the wrong choice and later meet your soulmate, you are entitled to leave your wife.
00:34:52.220 In contrast, you proposed a model of soulmates where your wife becomes your soulmate when you
00:34:56.960 make the commitment. Please correct me if I missed something. You did not. My question is,
00:35:01.620 is the distinction you laid out exhaustive? Aquinas implies that this distinction is not.
00:35:05.620 He argues with reference to the priesthood that someone can discern wrongly, in which case someone
00:35:11.040 could choose the priesthood when he was called to marriage or vice versa. Aquinas, however, goes on to
00:35:15.820 clarify that when that man is ordained or married, his calling from that point changes. This is due to
00:35:21.120 the call to universal fidelity. Could the same logic not exist with soulmates, where a man has a soulmate
00:35:28.020 and marries the wrong person, but the universal call to fidelity causes his new wife to become his
00:35:33.100 soulmate? I don't know whether the soulmates exist. I just think it was an interesting question.
00:35:37.260 Well, that's a difference between, of course, vocation. So you're talking about vocation, right? So
00:35:42.680 if someone is called to the religious life, and I do believe that many people are,
00:35:49.840 then that's a vocation. And I do believe there are many people called to it who do not heed the call.
00:35:55.220 And there are probably some people who are not called to it, and that's obvious too,
00:35:58.160 who are not called to it, and yet become religious. And the same thing could happen with marriage,
00:36:02.500 where people are called to marriage, yet they don't, that's, their vocation is marriage,
00:36:07.080 yet they don't get married, or they do get married, and that wasn't their vocation.
00:36:12.380 And it can happen in careers. You know, of course, unfortunately, with careers, it's a lot easier
00:36:17.680 to switch courses midstream. You can't really do that, or at least you shouldn't do it,
00:36:22.440 with marriage or priesthood. So that's vocation. I think that's different from this. The soulmate
00:36:28.800 thing, the idea is, if we believe there are soulmates, what we're saying is that there is one
00:36:35.720 person, one, it's not that you're called to marriage, it's that you're called to one particular
00:36:39.420 person who's out there somewhere, and that's the person you're supposed to marry. And so I would,
00:36:46.300 I still would reject that premise. I don't, I just don't think it's true. And it wouldn't even,
00:36:54.520 I don't even know exactly what it means. What exactly does that mean? That there's someone who
00:36:59.900 God has designed for you, but he's hid that person out in the world somewhere. So it's like,
00:37:04.480 where's Waldo? Right? And you could choose the wrong person, and now you're stuck with that person
00:37:10.680 instead. So to me, it doesn't make sense. It doesn't seem like a particularly wise way to set
00:37:21.560 up, set things up. So I wouldn't, I wouldn't expect that God is all wise and all knowing would.
00:37:28.180 And again, as you say, once you become married, then that person is your soulmate.
00:37:34.560 So why do we need a pre-marriage soulmate? So I would say, you know, when you meet somebody,
00:37:45.720 if you're single and you meet someone, and you say, this person is not my soulmate, well, they're not.
00:37:52.280 They could become that if you get married, but right now they're not.
00:37:57.220 Let's see. Arthur says, hopefully you'll read this. This, this Arthur wants to tell me why I'm wrong
00:38:02.460 about something. He says, there's a distinction I think you might be missing between shutting things
00:38:05.520 down for the virus as opposed to cars. Cars are voluntary. It's true that getting in a car can
00:38:10.780 kill you, but that a risk you, that's a risk you acknowledge when you get in a car and start
00:38:15.520 driving it. It's an inherent risk that you know about and choose to accept. There are alternatives
00:38:23.820 to driving. I'm not saying that it's good. I'm saying that the government's responsibility
00:38:27.160 isn't to regulate an accepted risk. If Iris, on the other hand, cannot be avoided reasonably because
00:38:33.420 of how the transmission works from person to person, that is when the government has a responsibility to
00:38:37.440 step in and help people. I'm not saying that the government has picked the best option when it
00:38:41.000 comes to COVID-19 response, but I am saying that there's a difference between the two and furthermore,
00:38:45.720 hindsight is 20-20. Okay. Right. But I think, again, you're kind of missing the point, Arthur. I don't,
00:38:53.460 I don't think that this has anything to do with what I'm talking about. And first of all, you say
00:38:59.620 that the government doesn't have a responsibility to regulate an accepted risk. They do regulate
00:39:06.160 driving. They regulate the hell out of driving in order to mitigate the risk. Yet we still know that
00:39:12.360 there is a risk. And even with all those mitigation efforts, there are going to be 30,000 to 35,000
00:39:17.820 people who die on the roadways. And that number is only going to go up probably as, uh, as, as the
00:39:23.700 population increases. So we, we know that. And what you're again, getting into the confusion I think
00:39:29.380 you have is you're, you're talking about the specific differences between a virus and car
00:39:35.120 accidents and how one is more dangerous than the other. And one is more avoidable than the other.
00:39:39.800 Uh, now you say that there's nothing we can reasonably do to avoid getting a virus. I disagree with
00:39:43.940 that. I think there are a lot of things we could do. That's why we're talking about washing. Look,
00:39:47.200 if you wash your hands, you've already done quite a lot to avoid getting the virus. If you,
00:39:52.680 if you don't touch your face, you've done quite a lot. Now, as you can see, when I do this show, I,
00:39:56.800 I'm very bad at that part of it, but I do wash my hands a lot. So hopefully it's okay.
00:40:01.540 Um, I'm also not leaving my house. So at the same time, I feel like maybe touching my face isn't a
00:40:05.560 big deal. Either way, there are, there's plenty we can do to, to avoid getting a virus, but that's,
00:40:09.700 all of that is irrelevant. How dangerous it is, how much it can be avoided. All of that is,
00:40:14.280 that's not the point. My point is simply this to say it again. Uh, every year that we allow people
00:40:24.260 to drive their cars, 30 to 35,000 people will die. And across the world, it'd be a million people
00:40:30.580 or thereabouts. And there will be tens of thousands more, if not hundreds of thousands more, I don't
00:40:35.320 know who are, who are seriously injured, maimed, maimed, or crippled in car accidents.
00:40:38.800 We know that is the cost of having our cars. And yet nobody says, let's get rid of cars. And so
00:40:48.380 what we are, the calculation we have made, the bargain we have made, the deal we've made is,
00:40:54.200 um, those 35,000 dead are a price worth paying so that we can drive.
00:41:00.780 We don't want to put it that way. We don't want to think of it that way.
00:41:06.740 We're not saying that it would be worth it to actively kill 35,000 people to like appease the
00:41:14.280 gods or something so that we can drive. That's not the point. Okay. We're not, we're not saying
00:41:19.160 that we should go out and kill 35,000 people ourselves in order to drive. What we're saying
00:41:24.360 is if people drive, 35,000 people or thereabouts will die. We don't want them to, but they will.
00:41:30.780 And although we're very sad about that, we will accept that side effect.
00:41:42.440 And then we bring that over to the COVID-19 discussion. And we say, okay, um,
00:41:49.500 in order to preserve our economy, we know what we're willing to accept in order to preserve our
00:41:54.040 ability to drive. What are we willing to accept in terms of a death toll in order to preserve
00:42:00.720 our economy and our way of life and our livelihoods, our cars, along with our homes and our retirement
00:42:06.880 savings and the food in our fridge and everything else? What are we willing to accept there in terms
00:42:12.600 of risk, in terms of potential death toll? It's got to be way over 35,000. So what is it? I don't know.
00:42:21.940 I'm just saying that's the point. That's the ethical question that we're dealing with.
00:42:25.740 All right. But thank you for that email. And, uh, we will cut it off there. Thanks everybody for
00:42:31.460 watching. Stay safe out there. God bless. Godspeed.
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