The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 456 - Churches Closed, Abortion Clinics Open

00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Wall Show, the government is now arresting pastors who try to hold

00:00:04.500 church services. Meanwhile, abortion clinics have been deemed essential by state governments

00:00:11.000 across the country, and also a federal judge, multiple federal judges have said that's essential,

00:00:16.380 so they stay open. This is what America has become. Close the churches down, keep the abortion 1.00

00:00:21.300 clinics open. We'll talk about all this. Also, five headlines, including more mayors and governors

00:00:26.280 around the country, are going insane with power, and it's like they're trying to one-up each other

00:00:30.940 with just how insane they get. And today we'll cancel, speaking of which, the mayor of Houston,

00:00:35.940 who tried to solve crime by asking criminals nicely to stay home and not commit crime.

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00:02:24.700 Okay, by the way, I do want to mention this before we get into all the churches being closed down and

00:02:29.840 everything. You've probably seen these headlines in the last couple of days. Here's one from Vox. Now,

00:02:37.420 these headlines are all over the place. All the big media companies have them. It says,

00:02:41.180 the coronavirus has now killed more Americans than the 9-11 terror attacks.

00:02:47.880 Now, this is interesting to me that you see these headlines because we've been told over and over

00:02:53.540 again, we've been screamed at, really, actually, that it's illegitimate and wrong and misguided to

00:03:01.020 compare coronavirus deaths to flu deaths. So the flu kills 60,000 to 80,000 Americans a year,

00:03:07.320 sometimes more, sometimes less. And we've been told, no, you can't do that. Can't compare it.

00:03:12.960 Can't make that comparison. They're totally different. They're so different that any comparison

00:03:16.840 just could not possibly be helpful. But then the same media that tells us that we can't make those

00:03:22.020 comparisons, they turn around and compare the coronavirus to 9-11. Now, wait a second. Hang on.

00:03:28.280 Hang on. Isn't a terrorist attack more different from the coronavirus than the flu is from the

00:03:35.580 coronavirus? However different the coronavirus and the flu are, aren't they closer? Aren't they

00:03:41.080 more similar, at least, than 9-11? Which comparison is closer? Which is more legitimate? Which is more

00:03:47.640 illuminating? Which of these two things are more similar? A terrorist attack where people fly

00:03:52.720 planes into buildings and a virus, or a virus and a virus? Which of those groups have more similarities?

00:04:01.300 So why is it that the less similar group, the more strained comparison ends up in the headlines,

00:04:09.800 while the more legitimate comparison is anathema? And really, you're not allowed to, I mean, up until

00:04:16.260 this 9-11 thing, if you haven't noticed, you're not, up until now, you haven't been allowed to make

00:04:22.060 any comparisons between the coronavirus and any other disease, anything. If you try to compare it to

00:04:27.120 anything else, the swine flu, polio, I mean, any, any, any kind of attempt of comparison you try to

00:04:32.180 make, uh, the Spanish flu, right? It's a, no, it's no, you can't compare it to that. Can't compare

00:04:37.120 it to that. No, no, totally different. Totally different. Oh, but 9-11. Yeah. Well, now those two

00:04:43.180 things. Yeah. Now we can really now make that comparison, put it in the headlines. Well, why is

00:04:49.360 the one allowed the other not? Well, we know why. Because the 9-11 comparison makes the coronavirus

00:04:54.040 seem scarier and therefore it's okay. But any, any comparison that has the effect of making the

00:05:00.140 coronavirus seem a little bit less scary is not okay. Okay. Um, now moving on. So it's come to this.

00:05:07.960 A pastor has been arrested for holding a church service in the United States of America. Okay.

00:05:14.360 It's not a headline from China. This is happening right now in America. Let me read from the Christian 0.99

00:05:20.700 Post. It says, Pastor Rodney Howard Brown, leader of Revival International Ministries and the river,

00:05:26.160 uh, and the river at Tampa Bay Church in Tampa, Florida was arrested Monday for what officials say

00:05:30.540 was the violation of a safer at home order, which prohibits large worship services during the

00:05:35.740 ongoing coronavirus pandemic. Hillsborough County Sheriff Chad Chronister said that when he saw images

00:05:41.720 of a crowded Sunday service at the church, uh, he was furious and he's angry and he's the, and he's,

00:05:48.680 uh, he's the sheriff. So he can just arrest you because he's mad. Right. We received an anonymous

00:05:53.600 tip that Dr. Rodney Howard Brown refused a request to temporarily stop holding large gatherings at his

00:05:59.060 church. He said, and instead he was encouraging his large congregation to meet at his church.

00:06:05.180 Um, Hillsborough County issued a safer at home order effective March 27th. The order mandates non-essential

00:06:11.240 businesses to abide by the CDC's social distancing guidelines. Um, if they're unable to do that,

00:06:16.360 they have to shut down. Howard and churches are non-essential. It's been determined across the

00:06:21.540 country in one fell swoop. We're just saying churches not essential. Howard Brown argued that

00:06:26.840 his church is an essential business and that the order violates his first amendment rights.

00:06:31.380 Seems like he'd have a case. Um, uh, the pastor's arrest order shows that he was charged with

00:06:38.300 unlawful assembly and violation of public health emergency rules, which are both second degree

00:06:43.860 misdemeanors punishable up to 60 days in jail and a maximum fine of $500. Uh, Chronister says,

00:06:49.940 our goal is to not, is not to stop people from worshiping, but the safety and wellbeing of our

00:06:54.560 community must always come first. Uh, it's a shame that someone has taken advantage of this for

00:06:59.600 whatever reason. I just don't understand it. The only reason I can see is it's a reckless reason

00:07:03.600 to put your parishioners in jeopardy. Uh, Chronister says, I believe there's nothing

00:07:09.080 more important than faith in a time like this. And as a sheriff's office, we would never impede

00:07:12.960 someone's ability to lean on their religious beliefs, but practicing those beliefs has to be

00:07:17.220 done safely. Practicing those beliefs has to be done safely. You can have your first amendment

00:07:24.300 rights. You can practice your religion, the most sacred right, the right that's, it's right there,

00:07:30.460 given pride of place, first amendment, the bill of rights, you can have it, but only if it's safe.

00:07:36.860 If it's deemed unsafe, uh, then, then, then it's the first amendment out the window. Everything's

00:07:42.540 out the window and the government will make an example of you. Now, before we talk more about

00:07:47.760 this, I want to throw something else onto the pile, something else to consider reading this from

00:07:52.720 Politico. It says federal judges on Monday lifted restrictions, Texas, Ohio, and Alabama imposed on

00:07:58.040 abortion during the coronavirus pandemic and decisions that could have repercussions for

00:08:02.620 several more Republican led States that have deemed the procedure non-essential during the crisis.

00:08:08.220 Uh, then it goes on from there, Texas, Ohio, Alabama, different district, uh, judges have said

00:08:15.360 that, no, this is essential. You're not allowed to close down the abortion clinics. And there are many

00:08:21.160 other States that have already, that are led by democratic governors that have already said from the

00:08:25.840 beginning, abortion clinics and stay open. So abortion clinics are essential. They stay open. 0.67

00:08:34.120 Meanwhile, churches across the country have been deemed non-essential and are closed at gunpoint.

00:08:40.440 And if you gather for worship, you could be arrested. Abortion clinics essential. 1.00

00:08:46.760 Worship non-essential. One closed, the other open. I mean, how can we tolerate this?

00:08:53.000 How, how, how, how can this be justified? And I see plenty of so-called conservatives who seem to be

00:09:02.100 basically okay with this. It's, it's, if anyone had told you six months ago that we would be here

00:09:11.940 right now where pastors are being arrested for holding church services in America and that the

00:09:20.080 government has essentially all at, all at once circumvented the first amendment simply by

00:09:24.540 declaring churches non-essential. And not only that would be happening, but that many conservatives

00:09:31.120 would say, well, okay, it's all to keep us safe. You wouldn't believe it. Well, maybe the second part

00:09:37.440 of that you wouldn't believe conservatives being cowardly and dumb enough to go along with this kind 1.00

00:09:41.640 of thing without question. That part you probably believe if you, if you've been, if you've, if you've 1.00

00:09:46.140 been around the conservative movement for any length of time, but the rest of it,

00:09:50.600 it is, it is almost unbelievable, but it's really happening. We'll talk more about this in just a

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00:11:30.740 one other thing about the, the, the, the abortion clinics. So the abortion clinics are allowed to 0.99

00:11:36.500 stay open. How, how does an abortionist practice social distancing from a mother while he's killing

00:11:43.440 her child? Can he stay six feet away while doing that? I mean, I, I've never been in the room for

00:11:49.880 an abortion, but I'm, I don't, how, how does the abortion abortion stay six feet away from the mother 0.50

00:11:56.540 while doing that? Um, but it doesn't matter because, you know, it doesn't make a lot of sense

00:12:05.080 to me. It might not make sense to you. It doesn't have to make sense to us. We, we have entered a

00:12:10.820 point where the government can make whatever rules they want, regardless of the constitution,

00:12:15.880 and they can enforce those rules at gunpoint. And that's what we're seeing happening across the

00:12:20.820 country. These government officials at every level, governors, mayors, uh, we talked yesterday

00:12:27.080 about the board of commissioners in a, in a County and what Indiana making up rules, all of these

00:12:33.680 different levels of government, they can just make whatever rule they want. It doesn't have to comply

00:12:36.700 with the constitution. It doesn't have to make sense. It doesn't have to, uh, be something that

00:12:42.700 could, could demonstrably actually succeed in, in, in slowing the spread of the virus. If they decide

00:12:47.980 that, Hey, we don't want this, then they're going to say, we don't want it. You can't do it.

00:12:53.940 Now this is almost beside the point, but I want to show you this, a screenshot from the live stream

00:12:57.880 of the church service that got this pastor arrested there in Florida. Here's a screenshot. Here's,

00:13:02.480 here's the, the worship service last Sunday. Are those congregants six feet apart? No. Okay. But he

00:13:09.840 did say he had them grouped according to family members and, you know, families coming in, of course,

00:13:13.720 they're going to be together, but there's going to be space in between each group of families

00:13:17.860 that come in. Now the pastor also says that he was given out hand sanitizer and that the staff

00:13:22.820 that was dealing directly with the congregants, they were all wearing gloves. Uh, I, you know,

00:13:27.680 I don't, I can't vouch for the truth of that, but I, we can see that there is some spacing there

00:13:33.520 in the, um, in the, in the building. Here's my point. Those groups of people are separated more

00:13:40.640 than they would be in the checkout line at the grocery store. Yet I can still go into the grocery

00:13:46.940 store for a bag of chips and wait in line with 20 other people, six inches apart. I can do that.

00:13:53.580 The government says that's essential. If I want to go to a grocery store six times a day,

00:13:59.680 I, for whatever I want, I can do that. Buying chips at the grocery store, that's essential.

00:14:06.400 Going to church is not. I happen to disagree. I think church is a whole lot more essential than

00:14:11.960 a bag of chips. Government, government officials though, I've decided based on their own priorities,

00:14:17.080 based on their own preferences, their own opinions, that attending church could not ever be more

00:14:23.780 essential than whatever reason a person might have to go to a grocery store. And they can impose

00:14:30.000 that subjective viewpoint on the population at gunpoint.

00:14:33.960 Um, as all this is happening, I keep thinking about that Benjamin Franklin quote that is so popular,

00:14:44.460 uh, right? Normally it's quite popular. And the quote, you know, those who would give up essential

00:14:51.320 liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. The interesting thing

00:14:57.240 by the quote is it's so popular and you see it everywhere during normal times, but when it comes

00:15:04.560 time for that mentality and that philosophy to actually be put into action, all of a sudden,

00:15:11.300 no one, no, it's, it gets out the window. We all, we, we, we, we, now we rip those bumper stickers off

00:15:17.080 of our cars and hide them under the bed, stuff them in the closet. And then so that we can proceed to

00:15:24.580 give up our liberty for safety. And then once the threat goes away, we take the bumper stickers out,

00:15:28.160 we slap them on the bumper again. And we say, ah, give me liberty or give me death.

00:15:35.720 I, I just, if that, if this principle, if this philosophy that we as Americans pretend to live

00:15:45.220 by, pretend to believe in, if that doesn't apply to this situation, then when would it ever apply?

00:15:55.500 See, the thing is you might say, well, this is an exception, but the people who are giving up safety

00:16:04.540 or giving up liberty for safety, they always think it's an exception. They're always going to say that.

00:16:09.840 Now, I feel like I have to keep stipulating and keep saying over and over again, and there's no

00:16:17.180 point in even saying it because people who want to misinterpret me, if they're, if you are determined

00:16:21.760 to misinterpret me, then you're going to go ahead and do that. I know it doesn't matter what I say,

00:16:25.840 but I am not suggesting that this virus is a hoax or that it's not serious or that people aren't dying

00:16:34.540 from it or that we shouldn't take it seriously. I am not saying that. What I am saying though,

00:16:40.560 is that it is madness to intentionally plunge into a great depression and make millions of people

00:16:47.460 destitute for the sake of this. And the constitution still exists and we can't just put it on hold and

00:16:55.660 we can't give government officials the power and the authority to make up whatever rules they want

00:17:00.680 for as long as they want, imposing their preferences and priorities and opinions on us at gunpoint.

00:17:07.540 We can't do that.

00:17:10.560 So that's my basic position. We should still retain our essential human liberties

00:17:17.200 and we should do whatever we can to avoid a great depression, which will result in the destitution

00:17:24.460 of millions and suffering and misery, unlike anything we can conceive right now.

00:17:30.120 Those two things, while also taking the virus seriously. And that is all possible.

00:17:35.720 That is actually possible. There are basic things we could do.

00:17:42.760 As I've been saying a million times, I'll say it again. You keep the nursing homes quarantined,

00:17:47.060 elderly and sick people. You keep them quarantined, right? You allow people to go back to work, 1.00

00:17:56.020 but maybe you encourage or hell, if you want to mandate gloves, fine. In certain industries, masks,

00:18:03.460 okay? Something like barbershops, okay? Maybe you mandate for a period of time that if you're going

00:18:10.960 to a barbershop or if you work at a barbershop or a hair salon, you wear a mask. Now, I know you're

00:18:17.000 going to tell me, well, that doesn't guarantee you could still spread the virus. I know you could

00:18:21.180 still spread it, but let me ask you this. If two people, if you got a barber and someone going to

00:18:26.620 a barbershop, both of them don't have any symptoms and don't tell me, well, they could still have the

00:18:31.460 virus without symptoms. I know that, okay? But we're talking probability here. You got a barber,

00:18:36.620 you got a person, neither of them have symptoms. They're both wearing masks. The guy's getting a

00:18:42.580 haircut. It takes 15 minutes or however long it takes. What is the chance that a virus will be

00:18:48.880 transmitted during the course of that interaction? Both masks, neither have symptoms. You don't have

00:18:55.740 to tell me it's possible it could still happen. I know it's possible. What's the chance, though?

00:19:00.120 What is the probability? What is the statistical likelihood of that happening? And is it high enough

00:19:07.200 to justify putting thousands of barbershops out of business forever, which is what we're doing right

00:19:13.680 now? I'm just using barbershops as one example. That's a question. It's a fair question we should

00:19:21.960 be asking. And I don't want to hear a response of, you're going to kill your grandma, all the 0.98

00:19:26.520 grandma. Shut up with that. I don't want to hear the emotional, please, this is too serious for that. 1.00

00:19:31.580 I'm asking basic questions, fair questions about things like statistical probability and weighing

00:19:39.440 risk and reward. That's what I'm interested in. I'm not interested in your emotional appeals

00:19:43.660 because there's a lot at stake right now. And putting millions of businesses out of business

00:19:52.400 forever and having 40 million people unemployed in the span of a month, that is a serious consequence.

00:19:59.760 And if you think that you, whoever you are watching this, if you think that you are going to, you're

00:20:07.240 going to fly through this and you're not going to feel it, you will. As I said yesterday, there are a

00:20:11.640 few people maybe who can go through something like an economic crash or a Great Depression and feel

00:20:17.740 unaffected by it or maybe even profit off of it. But you almost certainly are not one of those people.

00:20:23.260 And so you are going to suffer too. And your family will. And your loved ones.

00:20:32.540 Question I've been asking all along.

00:20:36.560 Risk reward calculation. What we're doing right now, is it worth the price that everybody is going to pay?

00:20:43.940 Is there another way of doing this? A way that would mitigate, at least to some significant

00:20:53.340 extent, the risk of transmitting the virus while also hopefully staving off a Great Depression?

00:21:01.260 I think there are other ways. We're not even considering those ways.

00:21:04.480 And that to me is insanity. That is lunacy. It is.

00:21:12.100 I feel like I'm surrounded by lunatics more and more each day.

00:21:17.300 There are a few of us out here screaming this. 0.60

00:21:21.320 All right, let's move on to headlines.

00:21:26.080 Well, more states, of course, have jumped into the shelter-at-home

00:21:31.260 pool. And just yesterday, in fact, there were a bunch of other states.

00:21:36.760 Virginia led the charge. Virginia's governor, Blackface Ralph, has instructed residents of the 0.98

00:21:41.540 state to stay home until June 10th. He explained, I want to be clear, do not go out unless you need

00:21:47.960 to go out. This is very different than wanting to go out. So if you just want to go out, Blackface 1.00

00:21:52.900 Ralph says, you can't go out. You better have an approved reason to exit your domicile.

00:21:59.760 Northam has also made it clear that if you need more shoe polish, though, for your face,

00:22:03.920 then that, of course, is a very good reason to go out. So that will be approved.

00:22:07.900 Meanwhile, the state of Maryland, where I was born and raised, my beloved at Maryland, has

00:22:11.280 gone into a full shutdown also, telling people to stay home. Governor Hogan said,

00:22:15.460 we are no longer asking or suggesting that Marylanders stay home. We are directing them to do so.

00:22:20.280 Now, here's a question to ponder. How many businesses can survive for two months, two and a

00:22:27.620 half months, all said and done, with zero revenue? Blackface Ralph wants to keep everybody in their 0.83

00:22:34.380 homes cowering in a corner until June 10th. What will they be walking out into when they emerge from

00:22:41.100 their homes? What kind of economy will be left for them? How many of those people who are sheltering

00:22:47.760 their homes, how many of them, when they leave their homes, are going to have a job to go to,

00:22:51.980 are going to have a way to feed their families? How many? Does that not matter? Apparently,

00:22:56.480 it doesn't matter. We're not even thinking about that. We'll worry about that later.

00:23:02.380 Again, total madness, collective insanity. We are doing something as a nation that we have never done

00:23:07.280 before. We have never shut down the country before like this ever for anything. Does the threat

00:23:12.880 justify it? This is the most dramatic response we've ever had to anything. Is it the worst threat

00:23:20.600 we've ever faced? Is it even the worst virus? The worst disease we've ever faced? The absolute worst?

00:23:30.040 If not, why is it getting the strongest reaction? There's another question. If this is not the worst

00:23:35.680 threat we've ever faced as a nation, and it's not, then why are we reacting in a way unlike we've ever

00:23:41.460 reacted before to anything? Number two, yesterday, the Empire State Building's official Twitter

00:23:49.040 account, which by the way, of all the buildings, I think the Empire State Building has the best

00:23:52.660 has the best Twitter account. Great, great memes, the Empire State Building posts. Actually, I don't

00:23:57.880 know that. I don't follow. But they posted a tweet. The building posted a tweet. The building said,

00:24:03.920 we'll never stop shining for you. Starting tonight through the COVID-19 battle, our signature white

00:24:08.260 lights will be replaced by the heartbeat of America with a white and red siren in the mast for heroic

00:24:14.140 emergency workers on the front line of the fight. Okay, so sounds inspiring, right? Well, let's take

00:24:19.380 a look at what this actually looked like. Here it is. Here's the siren on top of the Empire State

00:24:24.680 Building. Remember, they're not trying to scare you. None of this is about scaring you. You see that

00:24:30.540 right there? It's literally something out of a dystopian young adult novel, what you're seeing

00:24:37.980 right there. And I'm constantly seeing this. I saw this online. Someone posted it. And my first

00:24:45.840 reaction was, that's a joke. No way. They're not really doing that, are they? They didn't really

00:24:50.240 convert the Empire State Building into a giant siren lighting up the night sky in this terrifying way

00:24:57.460 in a city that's already petrified. They didn't really do that. No way. And then I go and check,

00:25:01.800 oh yeah, no, they really did it. That really happened. Number three, let's focus on something

00:25:07.160 positive though. Kate Winslet is, well, she played an epidemiologist in a movie once. So naturally,

00:25:13.160 Sky News, they went to ask her for medical advice. And Winslet was more than happy to oblige. This is

00:25:18.600 what she had to say. In the movie Contagion, I played an epidemiologist trying to stop the spread of

00:25:24.160 a hypothetical virus. To prepare for the role, I spent time with some of the best public health

00:25:29.580 professionals in the world. And what was one of the most important things they taught me?

00:25:36.300 Wash your hands like your life depends on it. Because right now, in particular, it just might.

00:25:44.340 Or the life of someone you love, or even the life of someone you might not know, but is still deserving

00:25:50.220 of your consideration. Like the people on the front lines of this fight right now, the doctors

00:25:55.520 and the healthcare providers, the people who are still working in the grocery stores, or delivering

00:26:00.580 food to your homes, which is where you should be right now. But wait a second. Didn't Winslet's

00:26:06.920 character die in that movie? See, my thing is we should be listening to the characters who lived,

00:26:14.220 shouldn't we? Or is this, you know, I learned the hard way. I learned a lesson the hard way so you

00:26:19.640 don't have to. Is it that kind of thing? I don't know. Either way, it's good that she's mining all

00:26:25.120 of her vast fake experience to give us advice. And on that note, I just wanted to mention that when

00:26:31.240 I was five years old, I drew a picture of myself in a rocket ship. And so for that reason, tomorrow,

00:26:37.180 I'll be delivering a 90-minute lecture on astronomy and cosmology. So look out for that. Number four,

00:26:43.540 I'm going to show you something, and then I'll give you the context. But first, I want to show it to

00:26:48.100 you. So here it is. See all those many cars, traffic jam, stretching miles, it looks like.

00:26:55.940 What do you think those cars are doing? Where could they all be going during these quarantines?

00:27:01.440 Well, this is in Pittsburgh, and those cars are waiting in line at a food bank.

00:27:07.080 Okay. That's after two weeks. That's after two weeks of a shutdown.

00:27:12.020 And you've got a line of cars stretching to the horizon of people who don't have food and need to

00:27:20.160 go to a food bank. What do you think it looks like another week from now? Two weeks? Three weeks?

00:27:27.900 Two months? Two months? How long is that line of cars?

00:27:35.700 And how many people get fed up waiting for 10 hours in line for food and then resort to other

00:27:41.800 means to get it? Number five, and the DC mayor, Mayor Bowser, has seen all these other mayors

00:27:51.680 playing dictator and decided that she doesn't want to be left out in the cold anymore. So she has

00:27:56.160 decided that anyone found outside their home could go to jail for 90 days. Found outside your home,

00:28:02.760 you could go to jail. But the magnanimous Bowser, dear leader Bowser, she will allow you in her

00:28:07.840 wisdom, in her generosity, to exit your place of residence for a few specified reasons. And here

00:28:12.540 she is explaining what those reasons are. As I've said before, the only reasons you should be leaving

00:28:16.800 your home are to buy groceries, pick up medicine, or to exercise with your own family because you have

00:28:23.460 been, or because you have been advised to seek medical attention, or because you are performing

00:28:29.580 an essential job. Personally, I'm overcome with gratitude that she would allow people to leave

00:28:35.560 their house for something like exercise. Truly, her mercy knows no bounds. Thank you. Thank you,

00:28:41.360 oh great Bowser. Thank you, oh queen, oh just, oh merciful, oh beautiful Bowser. We praise you,

00:28:48.400 we praise you. We praise you with all the choirs of angels. Yes, you're telling us that, you're telling

00:28:54.700 us who we're allowed to exercise with, which I mean obviously is not something that you have any

00:28:59.240 authority whatsoever to control. But we're not going to question that. We're not going to question. We

00:29:03.000 will comply. Because if we were to not comply, if we were to question your wisdom and your authority,

00:29:09.920 then we would be personally responsible for killing thousands of people. So, because this is not the

00:29:14.740 land of the free anymore. Freedom is scary. It's a very scary thing. We prefer to run into the warm

00:29:20.280 embrace of tyranny. We run to tyranny's bosom, and we clutch so tightly to it.

00:29:32.600 Now, let's go to your daily cancellation. In fact, before we do that, I want to mention to you again,

00:29:38.740 if you haven't had a chance to check out All Access Live, then I want to encourage you to do that.

00:29:43.980 You can go tonight, 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific. This is the more casual sort of, I don't even

00:29:49.280 really want to call it a show, but it's something we're doing where it's just a conversation. And if

00:29:54.600 you're a Daily Wire member, originally the plan was to open it up to All Access members, and this

00:29:58.960 was something we're going to do months down the road or weeks down the road, but we've moved up

00:30:03.320 the timeline. We've opened it up to anyone who's a Daily Wire member, and it's just a conversation.

00:30:07.600 You know, it's sort of a back and forth, very casual, and it's a way of us sort of

00:30:13.780 having a little bit of companionship, I suppose, in the middle of all the isolation. So if you're

00:30:19.520 around tonight and you're looking for something to do, which we all are, 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m.

00:30:23.580 Pacific, tune in, join us on the All Access Live show over at dailywire.com. And now for your daily

00:30:28.760 cancellation, staying on the theme of mayors, we're going to be canceling the mayor of Houston.

00:30:32.380 Houston, he held a press conference yesterday, and during the course of that press conference,

00:30:36.420 he had a message that, I don't know, I'm somewhat skeptical that this will have the result he's

00:30:42.100 hoping for, but this is what he had to say.

00:30:44.060 And let me just make my plea. Until the coronavirus is resolved, criminals take a break, okay? Stay home,

00:30:54.060 okay? Stay home, and don't commit any crimes. And that way, they'll stay safe and out of jail.

00:31:00.740 And police officers will stay safe and can go home to their families, okay? So everybody chill.

00:31:08.080 Crooks, criminals, you chill. Wait till the coronavirus is over, okay? 0.96

00:31:14.780 I can just imagine, right, a crook at home watching this, and then his crook friend calls him and says, 0.97

00:31:22.280 hey, did you want to go out and commit some crimes tonight? You want to do a little crime? I was thinking 0.98

00:31:26.580 we could do some crime. What do you think? And then the other one says, you know what?

00:31:30.100 I mean, look, listen, I know we're criminals and everything. It's what we do, but I was just

00:31:34.760 watching the mayor, and he had this really great suggestion. See, he said, maybe we shouldn't

00:31:39.140 commit any crimes, at least for the time being. Maybe we should just chill and not do crimes.

00:31:44.200 And then his friend says, wait, wait, wait a second. So you want to not do crimes?

00:31:47.620 You're saying you don't want to do crimes?

00:31:49.040 Yeah, let's just chill. Let's relax. Let's not do any crimes for now. Hey, listen, there will always

00:31:55.780 be crimes we can do later on. Let's wait for the coronavirus thing to pass and just be cool about it.

00:32:01.980 Actually, now that I think about it, I really can't imagine that conversation or anything like it

00:32:09.020 actually happening. So it seems, and I know that many cities around the country are trying to get

00:32:14.720 around this, but it seems like you're really going to have to actually enforce the law.

00:32:19.800 And when I say that, I mean the real laws, the important laws, not the laws prohibiting people

00:32:25.180 from jogging too much or jogging with the wrong person. Not even really the laws prohibiting people

00:32:31.220 from gathering for worship. I think those are the less important ones that you just came up with

00:32:36.300 out of nowhere in the last few days. But crimes like crimes against stealing, assault, that sort of

00:32:44.280 thing, I think you're still going to have to enforce those. Yeah. So the mayor of Houston, therefore,

00:32:50.720 is canceled. Now let's move on to emails and we've got a why I'm wrong email. This one is from Eric

00:32:57.400 and this, I mean, my inbox and my messages every day, I've got an email almost, it's like they're

00:33:07.840 following a script. It's this exact thing over and over and over and over again to the point where

00:33:15.440 it almost seems as if it's the same person sending it, but it's not because we live in a nation of

00:33:21.620 parrots who will just repeat whatever they're told to say. So this is, this is Eric. He says,

00:33:26.080 Matt, I understand you want to go to the movies and restaurants again, but is that worth your

00:33:30.680 grandma's life? I've been very saddened by the direction you've taken on this. You were always a

00:33:35.300 champion for the pro-life cause. Now you would have people die just for the economy. Lives are more

00:33:40.880 important than money, Matt. Okay, Eric, I was asking somebody this yesterday. I couldn't get a

00:33:47.780 response. Maybe you could help me out with this. Uh, please explain to me. You say, is going to the

00:33:55.840 movies worth my grandma's life? Uh, the answer is no. Okay. I wouldn't kill my grandma to go to the

00:34:03.600 movies. Like if my grandma was trying to prevent me from going to movies, I wouldn't kill her to go. 0.85

00:34:08.520 So I wouldn't do that. But here's what I want you to explain, Eric.

00:34:14.300 If I go to the movies, see under my proposal, under my plan that no one cares about, but anyway,

00:34:19.700 my, my idea here is that as I, as I, as I have been saying, and I've already said again on this

00:34:24.060 show, we open up the business and let people who are young and healthy, go to work, keep the nursing

00:34:28.620 home quarantine, keep the elderly quarantined. If you have a preexisting conditions, you know, you, 0.99

00:34:34.180 you, you, you stay, stay away for now. Um, and then of course it'd be, it'd be much easier than

00:34:39.760 to provide you with, with assistance. If we don't have to give everybody assistance, we can just

00:34:43.500 give it, we can, it can be more targeted in that way. Uh, so if we do that and people who have the

00:34:50.540 illness, we do aggressively testing people who have test positive. Okay. They're going to be isolated

00:34:54.520 for several weeks. If we do that and my grandma is quarantined in the nursing home, which is where 0.99

00:35:01.340 she is right now, how does me going to the movies kill her? Can you explain? Give me the step-by-step

00:35:08.420 process. I go to the movies, my grandma's hundreds of miles away in a nursing home quarantined and still 0.88

00:35:14.760 in quarantine, which I think that that's how it should remain. How does me being at the movies

00:35:19.920 kill my grandma? Please explain the connection between those two things. Give me a step. We got

00:35:25.460 step one. I go to the movies and then down here, like step five, my grandma dies. Give me two, three,

00:35:31.500 four. What what's fill in the blanks there? Because it seems to me that what you have here is not an

00:35:39.300 argument. This is not rational thought that you're sharing with me. This is emotional manipulation,

00:35:46.160 emotional blackmail. It's just emotion. These are just your emotions that you're spewing out onto the

00:35:50.620 page without even thinking about it. And you have been convinced that the only way, the only way to

00:35:57.760 keep all of our grandmas alive is if we all stay locked in our house indefinitely for as long as the

00:36:02.660 government says. You've been convinced of that because that's what you were told. It doesn't have to be

00:36:10.040 that way. Uh, and you say, I want people to die just for the economy. Okay. Once again, Eric,

00:36:17.560 what do you think the economy is? What is the economy to you? How would you define it?

00:36:27.480 Because as I understand the economy, it is not some separate detached organism or entity

00:36:35.140 that's just hanging out there like a, like a, a thing that we come and we pay homage to. Oh,

00:36:42.100 the economy, the economy. No, no. The economy is people. When we talk about the economy, we mean

00:36:49.340 people's jobs, their livelihood, the way they feed their families, their kids. Okay. That's what the

00:36:55.120 economy is. And so it's not the money that I'm worried about. What I'm worried about is the man who

00:37:03.740 doesn't, who can't make any money now and therefore can't feed his kids. It's not his money. I'm not

00:37:08.960 worried about, no, his money is an inanimate object. Not even that probably. It's just, it's a number in

00:37:13.540 his bank account, a number that's now down to zero. So I'm not worried about that. I'm worried about him

00:37:18.920 and his kids and how they survive. You see that? Do you understand that? Do you really not understand it?

00:37:27.800 I don't know how else to explain it. I'm not worried about my money. I'm still making money.

00:37:34.940 Okay. I'm in the media. Now media relies on advertisers. So we are by no means exempt,

00:37:40.940 but as it stands right now, anyway, we're doing okay. I'm still making an income and that's fine.

00:37:48.900 So I'm not worried about, this is not about me and my money.

00:37:50.940 Believe it or not, I actually am concerned about the millions of people, the millions upon millions

00:37:57.800 upon millions of people who are right now, either destitute or on the verge of becoming it.

00:38:03.660 Did you see the line of cars after two weeks in Pittsburgh, waiting in line for hours at a food

00:38:10.620 bank? I'm worried about those people. Are you not? What about them? Do you care about them?

00:38:20.940 Uh, and another question I have for you, the arguments you're, you're giving me here.

00:38:29.000 What you seem to be saying is shut down the economy, uh, because somehow the economy is

00:38:34.400 different from people. It's two different things and you can shut down the economy without affecting

00:38:37.820 people. That's what you seem to think. Uh, and we, we, we should do this because lives are more

00:38:42.340 important than money. So what you're giving me here are a series of, first of all, misunderstandings,

00:38:47.960 emotional appeals and cliches like lives are more important than money and straw men, because I

00:38:55.220 never said that lives aren't more important than money. So that's a straw man argument. That's what

00:38:58.440 you're giving me. But here's, here's, here's my question to you. Um, the swine flu 10 years ago,

00:39:08.080 back in 2009, swine flu hit. There was, I think I'm off the top of my head. You can check me on this

00:39:15.780 Google, but, uh, I think it was about 60 million cases of swine flu, 200,000 or so hospitalizations

00:39:22.220 and 12,000 people died. Did you at the time call for the shutting down of the entire economy

00:39:30.980 to save those 12,000? Did you now? I don't know, Eric, but I, I, and I, I guess I can't assume this

00:39:36.940 about you because I have no idea, but I'm going to assume that you didn't. And the reason I assume

00:39:40.920 you didn't is because from what I could tell, nobody did. In fact, most people, until this

00:39:48.200 happened, most people didn't even realize that the swine flu, they remembered a swine flu. Most

00:39:52.420 people didn't even realize that it killed 12,000 people. I didn't even realize that when I first heard

00:39:57.080 a month ago about the swine flu killed 12,000 in America, I said, what, 10 years ago? No, it didn't.

00:40:02.140 And I looked it up. Sure enough, it did. See, when that hit, we just, what did we do? We did nothing.

00:40:07.860 We did basically nothing. We just continued living our lives and it killed 12,000 people and we just

00:40:12.580 kept on living. Now, don't tell me that this is worse than swine flu. It's different. It's not the

00:40:19.520 same. I understand that. It's not my point. Now, actually, it's not worse than the swine flu yet.

00:40:23.440 Right now, it's not. But you might say it's going to be worse than the swine flu. Okay,

00:40:28.260 that's a projection. That's an assumption. You could be right. Probably you are. I'll grant you

00:40:33.320 that. This is going to be worse than the swine flu. Fine. That's not my point. Those 12,000 people,

00:40:39.960 they were human beings. And it's 12,000 people. And they died. So were their lives not worth saving?

00:40:51.080 I mean, why didn't you? Even if 12,000 is lower than the ultimate death toll we're going to see

00:40:59.420 with the coronavirus, let's say the coronavirus, let's go with the worst case scenarios that we're

00:41:02.980 now being told. Originally, the worst case scenario was like 2 million in America. Now we're being told

00:41:06.700 the worst case scenario is 200,000. Okay, let's just say, worst case scenario, coronavirus kills

00:41:11.020 200,000 people. 12,000 is less than that. But still, those are human beings. Those are lives.

00:41:17.960 A lot of them. Why didn't you call for the economy to be shut down for their sake? 1.00

00:41:24.960 Are they not worth it to you? Do you not care about them? Do you not care about those lives?

00:41:30.960 What's going on? Eric, explain it to me.

00:41:35.940 Whatever your answer is to that. Think about that question. Why didn't you call for the shutting

00:41:43.060 down the economy to save 12,000 people from the swine flu? Whatever your answer is to that

00:41:47.980 question. I'm sure the answer is not, I don't care about those people. Those people are worth less

00:41:54.080 than money. You know, I'm sure that's not your answer. I'm sure you'll have some other answer,

00:41:58.980 don't you? So think about that. And as you come to understand your own motivations as to why you

00:42:09.360 didn't call for the shutting down the economy to save 12,000 people, you might start to understand

00:42:13.040 where I'm coming from on the coronavirus. Just something to think about. And we'll leave it

00:42:18.980 there. Thanks, everybody, for watching and listening. Stay safe. God bless. Godspeed.

00:42:26.460 We'll see you next time.

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The Matt Walsh Show - March 31, 2020

Ep. 456 - Churches Closed, Abortion Clinics Open

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