The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 457 - How We Are Setting A Precedent For Future Democratic Administrations To Exploit

00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Wall Show, with the government now seizing unprecedented power in the name of a

00:00:04.820 national emergency and a threat to public health, we have to consider what might happen when the

00:00:10.240 next Democratic president gets into office and decides that, for example, climate change is a

00:00:15.680 national health emergency. What happens then? We'll talk about that. Also, five headlines,

00:00:19.580 including medical experts, saying now, you know, oops, turns out, you know how we told you guys

00:00:25.440 not to wear masks because masks aren't effective and they won't do anything? Turns out they are

00:00:29.660 effective. So they've kind of changed on that. But there's there's reason to believe. In fact,

00:00:34.080 it seems pretty clear that some of these organizations like WHO and CDC, they were just

00:00:39.460 flat out lying before and saying that masks aren't effective to slow the spread of the disease of the

00:00:44.700 virus, even though they knew that they are effective. So we'll talk about that. And today

00:00:48.840 in your daily cancellation, we're going to cancel a school principal who warned parents that they

00:00:54.080 should not attempt whatever they do. Do not attempt to teach your own children during the shutdown.

00:00:59.060 You are not a teacher. You are a parent. We'll talk about what's wrong with that attitude. Plus,

00:01:03.740 a whole bunch of people write to tell me why I'm wrong in my objections that I raised yesterday to

00:01:08.960 the government arresting pastors who hold worship services. I'm wrong to object to that. So says

00:01:14.920 these emailers. So we'll go through those today as well. But starting off here yesterday, former

00:01:21.800 President Barack Obama sent out a tweet scolding President Trump and tying the coronavirus pandemic

00:01:27.980 to climate change. This is what Obama wrote. He said, we've seen all too terribly the consequences

00:01:33.940 of those who denied warnings of a pandemic. We can't afford any more consequences of climate denial.

00:01:40.060 All of us, especially young people, have to demand better of our government at every level and vote

00:01:44.820 this fall. Along with this tweet was a link to an LA Times article about the Trump administration

00:01:49.780 curtailing some of the vehicle emissions standards that Obama had put in place. So Obama's point is

00:01:56.800 that, in his opinion, a failure to take governmental action against climate change will have the same

00:02:01.780 sort of effect as Trump's failure, in his opinion, to take governmental action against the coronavirus.

00:02:06.780 Now, what Obama doesn't mention and doesn't want us to realize is that, you know, among the people who

00:02:12.540 denied the initial threat of a pandemic was the media, you know, the left-wing media, CNN, among them,

00:02:21.500 they were also early on saying that this isn't going to be a pandemic. I said it too. Most people were saying.

00:02:29.100 But, of course, Obama wants to tie it only to Trump. Now, Obama is hammering on a familiar theme.

00:02:36.600 Many media outlets have attempted to link climate change and this. There was a recent article in

00:02:42.840 Time, the article titled, Five Lessons from a Coronavirus That Will Help Us Tackle Climate Change.

00:02:48.940 And it goes through the five lessons. One of the lessons is that global challenges require systemic

00:02:57.280 changes, changes that can only be activated by government or companies. And the article goes on

00:03:03.760 from there and says, but they also require individual behavioral changes. We need both.

00:03:08.480 We've seen over the past few weeks that governments can take radical action and we can change our

00:03:13.240 behavior quickly. Al Jazeera has also connected the two issues much more directly. They published an

00:03:22.740 article saying the coronavirus outbreak is part of the climate change crisis. And we're told in the

00:03:29.520 article that, quote, the sweeping and unprecedented measures taken by the government and international

00:03:33.680 institutions to curb the virus should cause us to, quote, wonder about another global emergency

00:03:38.400 that needs urgent action, climate change. And then it continues. In fact, one may argue that the

00:03:43.520 pandemic is part of climate change and therefore our response to it should not be limited to containing

00:03:48.200 the spread of the virus. What we thought was normal before the pandemic was already a crisis. And so

00:03:53.640 returning to it cannot be an option. Now, I could marshal other examples here, but hopefully the point is

00:04:02.140 pretty clear. The left is arguing that the governmental response to the coronavirus should serve as a basis

00:04:08.560 for the government's response to climate change. Now, phrases like systemic changes and sweeping and

00:04:16.840 unprecedented measures and behavioral changes. These are being used in a positive sense to suggest a path

00:04:23.500 forward in our mortal struggle against the weather. Now, those of us who historically have rightfully not been

00:04:31.860 so keen on the government doing things that are sweeping and systemic should take note of this.

00:04:38.780 And we should be we should be quite wary. In fact, I almost said we should be merry. No, we should not be

00:04:44.460 merry. We should be wary. It seems at this point. Pretty likely. If not, in fact, inevitable that the next

00:04:55.800 democratic president will use the precedents being set right now to justify dramatic infringements on

00:05:01.800 our liberties for the sake of fighting the climate change boogeyman or any number of other real or

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00:06:58.000 so we have to think about this. The government projected that millions would die from the

00:07:05.260 coronavirus epidemic and, and use that as a justification for effectively suspending the

00:07:11.160 bill of rights, locking millions of Americans in their homes, uh, forcibly closing millions of

00:07:15.380 businesses, putting entire sectors of the workforce out of work, arresting pastors, quarantining whole

00:07:22.220 cities, even banning people from, you know, walking around unless they have an approved reason.

00:07:28.760 Um, many Americans have approved of these measures, uh, despite the fact that they're destroying our

00:07:36.780 economy and bringing us closer and closer to a crash and eventual depression that will be unlike

00:07:41.180 anything we've ever seen before. So it doesn't take a fortune teller to detect where this might go

00:07:47.080 next. If, if the government's projections and models are reason enough to take this sort of action,

00:07:55.220 then, and this is something I think you have to consider, even if you're on board with everything

00:08:00.560 that's happening right now, you still have to consider this projections and models are the reason why

00:08:06.520 all of this is happening. And we're going to potentially crash the economy. Uh, not potentially

00:08:12.420 we are because of projections and models. And what happens though, when, when the government under a

00:08:20.080 democratic president projects the end of all life on earth, unless extraordinary things are done to

00:08:26.000 circumvent it on, on what basis can those of us who endorse the current shutdown of American society

00:08:33.220 to save millions of lives object when a similarly drastic program is put in place to save billions

00:08:40.100 of lives. I mean, if we're doing this to save millions, it's, I certainly would do it to save

00:08:44.820 billions. Wouldn't we? If the, if the government can issue declarations that shutter in many cases,

00:08:50.600 permanently tens of millions of small businesses, why can't it issue declarations canceling industries

00:08:56.780 that it will say contribute to climate change and are helping to bring about Armageddon?

00:09:02.360 Those of us who support these shutdowns at that point, I think we're going to be in quite

00:09:06.540 a bind because we're not going to be able to argue that the government in principle should not,

00:09:13.500 or does not have the power to, um, toss free enterprise into the wood chipper along with the

00:09:19.040 bill of rights, seize dictatorial control of our civilization and all that. We won't, we won't be able to say

00:09:25.260 in principle, they can't do that, or they don't have the power to do that. That can't be our argument

00:09:29.800 because we will have already ceded that power and agreed and endorsed the government in doing those

00:09:38.300 things. So instead, what, what will our argument be? Um, I mean, it's, I'm not saying that, you know,

00:09:44.340 if you go along with this, that means you would have to agree to shutting down society to, uh,

00:09:50.240 address climate change. But what I'm saying is that your argument that you can use will be very

00:09:55.220 limited and not nearly as powerful as it could be because all we'll be able to do at that point

00:10:01.180 is debate whether it is actually true that climate change poses that kind of threat. That's going to

00:10:07.520 be the debate. It's, it's going to be already assumed at that point that if it does pose that sort

00:10:14.040 of threat, then the government can do all of these things and more. So then it's going to come down

00:10:18.720 to, does it pose that kind of threat? It's going to be a battle of projections and you're going to have

00:10:23.780 to come with your own projections and say, no, my projections say this isn't going to happen.

00:10:29.040 Yeah. But the problem is that the government will have the consensus of the scientific community

00:10:33.180 on its side. As we are told over and over again, 97%, whatever it is, 98%. Now you can point out that

00:10:41.240 that number is, uh, is misleading and it is, but so what? You think the government doesn't care about that?

00:10:47.820 They're going to say we have the consensus of the scientific community. We have 97%. That settles that

00:10:54.500 for all intents and purposes. We're shutting things down. We are, we're saving the whole world from

00:11:00.500 Armageddon. If you try to stand in the way, then you hate humanity. You're going to be responsible for

00:11:06.280 the deaths of deaths of so many billions, so on and so on and so on. Um, there are other

00:11:13.900 possibilities just as plausible or nearly as plausible. Imagine a future democratic regime

00:11:18.220 that declares gun violence, a national emergency and a public health crisis and summarily orders the

00:11:24.880 confiscation of all quote assault weapons or handguns. Now, those of us who obediently support

00:11:32.040 the effective suspension of the first amendment, even up to the arrest of pastors who hold worship

00:11:38.000 services will have little ground to stand on when the second amendment is suspended. I mean,

00:11:44.760 if the one is negotiable and mutable, why not the other? Right? Especially if the government is

00:11:52.640 saying, look, we're not going to confiscate all guns, just certain ones. You don't need those.

00:11:56.120 It's the same way. I, all these people yesterday were telling me, I was honestly, I shouldn't be

00:12:01.800 shocked by it, but I was when we were talking about pastors being arrested and I'll, I'll address this

00:12:06.520 more in the email section, because as I said, lots of people disagree with me. Lots of self-professed

00:12:11.720 conservative Christians are apparently totally on board with arresting pastors. But one thing I heard

00:12:18.740 over and over again is you don't need to gather to meet. You don't need to meet. Yeah. We have the

00:12:23.960 internet. Just, just meet on zoom or Skype or whatever, or watch a YouTube, a live stream.

00:12:29.800 Don't you see how that's the exact same argument people make with guns? Where they say, you don't

00:12:34.820 need that. You don't need a, in a quote, assault weapon. You don't need it. In a sense, they're right.

00:12:43.520 I mean, on a day-to-day basis, you don't need it, but that's not the point, is it? It's not a point of

00:12:48.840 you need it. It's a point that you have a right to it. That's it. And what you hear from gun rights 0.51

00:12:54.940 advocates all the time is, look, I, you know, I feel horrible about, about gun violence. I feel

00:13:00.760 horrible when there's mass shootings, but if there was a mass shooting every day in this country using

00:13:05.160 these weapons, I still wouldn't agree to having them confiscated. Why? Because I have a right to it.

00:13:11.660 That's the argument, right? But if the first amendment is negotiable, mutable, then why not

00:13:20.360 the second? All we're going to be able to do at that point is argue that gun violence is not actually

00:13:26.300 a health crisis and an emergency. Because we've already, we will have already agreed, right, that

00:13:30.900 if it is a health crisis and a legitimate emergency, then yeah, forget about the Bill of Rights. Do what

00:13:35.040 you want, government. We've already, we right now, many of us are already agreeing to that proposition

00:13:39.260 as we speak right now today. So then all we're going to be left with, we're arguing on their

00:13:45.860 terms and we're saying, well, yeah, but if it was that, then maybe you could take that. But it's not

00:13:51.160 that. But once again, the consensus of very smart and powerful people will overrule us. They're going

00:13:57.400 to marshal this consensus. They have a whole consensus of people saying, no, it is a health crisis. It is an

00:14:03.460 emergency. In fact, if you do confiscate guns, it will result in, you know, whatever percentage

00:14:09.240 reduction of gun violence. We're going to save X number of lives. And so let's do it. Right? I mean,

00:14:16.280 if you object to it, if you object to it, then which of your family members are you willing to

00:14:21.040 have shot in the head in an incident of gun violence if you object to it? Which one? Tell me.

00:14:26.660 Same exact argument people are using now.

00:14:30.840 We'll have nowhere else to go. No other argument to turn to. The most powerful argument that the

00:14:37.400 government in principle should not have the power to take these sorts of actions,

00:14:41.860 even if there really is a crisis, will no longer be available to us. We will have forfeited it.

00:14:48.360 We are forfeiting it right now as we speak. What if a future New York governor, Ocasio-Cortez,

00:14:56.240 enjoying the support of a Democrat-run federal government, decides that the refusal of certain

00:15:01.000 churches in her state to perform gay weddings is its own emergency because of the mental and emotional 0.98

00:15:05.680 damage it does to people who are refused? Can she close down those places of worship until they

00:15:12.760 pledge to end their bigoted practices? I mean, why not? If it really is an emergency.

00:15:21.280 And besides, these churches, I mean, just like you don't need to meet, you don't need to.

00:15:26.200 You also don't need to reject gay weddings. You don't need to. It's not a need that you have.

00:15:35.400 You're not going to die if there's a gay wedding in your church, right? So just do it. And if you 0.99

00:15:42.300 don't do it, we'll shut you down. You don't need it. If these possibilities seem implausible

00:15:51.100 to anyone, then I would suggest that the person who says they're implausible hasn't been paying

00:15:57.160 very close attention to the rhetoric and language that these people on the left use when making

00:16:03.620 their case. Pay attention to the kinds of things they say. They say things like health crisis,

00:16:10.960 emergency, epidemic. These are the words they use. And they believe it. And millions of Americans 0.96

00:16:18.960 believe it and see it that way. They've been setting the stage for this kind of power grab

00:16:25.580 for many years now. But I think the coronavirus response, and so you could rightly point out

00:16:32.240 and smartly point out that, well, they already would want to do this even without the coronavirus,

00:16:41.280 which is exactly correct. But I think the coronavirus response and its passive acceptance by many

00:16:51.200 Americans has made what was once likely almost inevitable. And it certainly at least would seem 0.99

00:17:01.020 to have sped up the timeline of when we're going to see these things happen.

00:17:04.820 All right. Remember, we only have 10 years left, right? 10 years until the catastrophic

00:17:13.420 consequences, billions of people dead. If you really believe that, it actually, by applying the

00:17:23.600 logic that we're seeing used today, it would actually make a lot of sense. Shut everything

00:17:27.520 down. Shut civilization down to stop it. All right. We're going to move on to headlines.

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00:19:37.460 projecting between 100,000 and 240,000 dead from the coronavirus, even with the measures that we put in

00:19:45.880 place. Birx and Fauci tell us that this is better than the supposed 2 million or so who would have

00:19:51.360 died with no mitigation efforts. The models and projections are continuously adjusted,

00:19:57.320 which on one hand is understandable, right? Because nobody really knows the future. But on the other

00:20:01.920 hand, we are bankrupting the country and driving millions into financial ruin on the basis of

00:20:06.420 projections. So the fact that the projections keep changing is cause for concern, right? But speaking

00:20:11.980 of projections, as unreliable as they may be, here's my question. Has anybody run a model or come up with

00:20:21.620 a projection to tell us what the body count might be if we don't shut down the whole economy, but we

00:20:29.380 also don't do nothing? Because it seems like every model shows us, okay, this is what would happen if we

00:20:35.680 shut everything down and this is what happens if we do nothing. And that's the, you know, 200,000 dead

00:20:41.920 versus 2 million dead. What they're telling us is that with the mitigation efforts, 100 to 200,000 dead

00:20:46.600 with nothing, 2 million. Okay, but nobody is suggesting that we do nothing. I honestly have

00:20:55.140 not heard that proposed from anyone, at least certainly from any prominent source. I can't guarantee

00:21:02.620 that there hasn't been somebody out on Twitter somewhere saying that, but I have not seen any

00:21:06.400 prominent person, anyone of note, suggest that we do nothing in response to the coronavirus epidemic.

00:21:13.620 So what these projections, they're giving us the total shutdown versus, on the other hand, a strategy

00:21:21.380 that nobody has proposed. So what if we lock everything down, but we also do things,

00:21:30.940 quarantine the elderly, the sick, the symptomatic, encouraging mask use, even mandating it in 1.00

00:21:36.280 certain situations, along with other hygiene measures, et cetera. What if we did that? What's

00:21:39.820 the projection for that? You know, you can't tell me that the projection would be the same as if we

00:21:47.260 did nothing because it's not nothing. Obviously, it's going to have some effect. It's going to do

00:21:52.820 something. So what's the projection? Shouldn't that be what we compare the lockdown projection

00:21:59.420 too? Wouldn't that give us a clearer picture of the costs and benefits, the risks and rewards of one

00:22:05.860 strategy against the other? How is it that in all of our discussion, in all of our projections,

00:22:11.380 the idea of allowing the economy to continue while also taking serious mitigation steps hasn't even

00:22:18.740 been considered or discussed? And how do we not have projections for that? It's mind-boggling.

00:22:28.840 Number two, according to Dr. Fauci, the CDC is now considering actually urging Americans to wear

00:22:33.700 masks in public. You may remember that these medical authorities, the CDC, who others spent weeks,

00:22:44.120 months really, telling us that we shouldn't wear masks and wearing masks won't accomplish anything.

00:22:50.380 Right? We were told that. Now, thinking back on it, of course, it never really made sense.

00:22:59.140 I mean, I'll admit, I bought it when they said it. We had all these doctors say, oh,

00:23:03.440 wearing masks won't do anything. Now, I thought to myself, what the? What? It doesn't,

00:23:07.020 what do you mean it doesn't do it? But okay, I mean, all right. I mean, I don't know how these

00:23:10.840 things work, so if you're telling me that it doesn't do anything, then sure. It kind of proves

00:23:17.360 how we should, oftentimes, we should just go with our common sense, or at least we should give our

00:23:21.640 common sense a fairer hearing than we do, or at least I have done. Because, of course, you think,

00:23:28.180 well, wait a second. If wearing a mask doesn't do anything, then why do doctors wear them?

00:23:33.120 Right? And how could it be that it would offer no protection?

00:23:40.580 Obviously, if someone coughs and you're wearing a mask, you're at least better off with one than

00:23:46.440 you would be without one. You can't tell me that it does nothing whatsoever. It must do something.

00:23:51.320 It is some kind of barrier. And if you want to point out that, oh, actually, the masks are about

00:23:55.560 stopping you from spreading it, not so much stopping someone from spreading it to you,

00:23:58.640 okay, well, then a mask would seem to help there, too. Well, it turns out that, yeah, if you were

00:24:05.060 someone who just used your common sense and said from the beginning, I don't believe that, you're

00:24:08.580 looking pretty smart right now, because now we're being told by the CDC and these same medical

00:24:12.640 authorities that, oh, no, actually, no, no, no, we might change that. It turns out that masks actually

00:24:17.100 might do something. They are effective, not 100% effective, but effective in stopping the spread of

00:24:23.160 the virus. Even homemade masks. I just looked at a study, the New York Times mentions one,

00:24:28.380 a study in a recent article. This is a study done years ago about the, I think it was the flu virus,

00:24:35.180 and they found that even a homemade mask, even something as crude as like a t-shirt over your

00:24:41.400 face, obviously, that's not going to be as effective as a medical mask, but it's a hell of a lot better

00:24:47.080 than nothing, both when it comes to not contracting the virus and not spreading it. Which, again, when you

00:24:56.120 think about your common sense, you think, well, they do tell us when we sneeze or cough to cough

00:25:01.980 into our elbow, right? So that is essentially a very crude homemade mask. Now, if it's important

00:25:09.260 for us to do that, and that accomplishes something, then it would make sense that a mask of some kind

00:25:14.640 would accomplish at least that much mitigation.

00:25:21.100 So it looks like the CDC and WHO are going to come out and say officially, eventually, that, yeah,

00:25:26.040 actually, about that mask thing, you should probably wear them. But then we have to go back to the fact

00:25:30.100 that these organizations, the organizations that told us not to wear masks, are the ones that are at the

00:25:34.860 forefront, really, of shutting down the whole economy. And it does make you wonder how much you should trust

00:25:39.660 them, especially when it's, from how it looks right now, it's not as though these organizations

00:25:47.540 were confused. No, what we're being told now is that, well, they discourage mask use, the Surgeon

00:25:56.040 General among them. I believe the Surgeon General said just flat out they don't work, not effective.

00:26:01.940 No, they knew that they do work. It's just that they were worried about Americans hoarding surgical

00:26:06.460 masks and medical masks. And that's why they told us that. So they lied to us. They told a straight up

00:26:15.160 lie for our, for the greater good, for our benefit, for our own good. They lied to us because they

00:26:23.180 couldn't trust us not to hoard. And that makes you think, what else might they be lying about? Is there

00:26:29.880 anything else they're lying about for our own good? I don't know. Number three, as Katie Hyde on Twitter

00:26:38.420 shows us, and I'll show you these screenshots, the media really has this creepy tendency to latch on

00:26:44.840 to a talking point all at the same time. Almost as if they're sitting around in a smoky room,

00:26:51.280 conspiring and coming up with their plots and their talking points and everything, which of course they

00:26:57.140 aren't. But you can see where conspiracy theories come from sometimes because, because of how

00:27:01.540 coordinated this sort of stuff looks. So these media people all at once started using this talking

00:27:08.520 point that if a hundred thousand people die from the coronavirus, that will be twice as many as died

00:27:14.200 in the Vietnam war. Twice as many as the Vietnam war. And as some of them are phrasing it, Trump will

00:27:20.660 have then overseen the a hundred thousand deaths, which is twice as much as the Vietnam war. So

00:27:27.040 you're tying in Trump, you're tying in the Vietnam war. Now it's like we talked about yesterday. The

00:27:31.160 media had yesterday been blaring these headlines that more people have died of the virus than died

00:27:35.800 during nine 11. So it's the same kind of thing, but, but, but why is that a legitimate or helpful

00:27:42.700 comparison? And why can you say more have died from the virus than nine 11, but you can't say

00:27:50.260 27,000 fewer people have died from the virus than, than died during a mild flu season.

00:27:56.960 Both are true. If you look at the numbers right now, both are true. More have died on nine 11, 0.89

00:28:02.420 but significantly less at this point have died than, than die from the flu. Um, both accurate

00:28:08.980 statements, uh, but both are equally as unhelpful in terms of quantifying and putting this in

00:28:17.860 perspective. But one of those unhelpful analogies is blared all over the place or comparisons is

00:28:24.420 blared all over the place. While the other one, if you dare, if you dare mention that, um, you're

00:28:30.140 going to be metaphorically stoned to death by the media. And with this Vietnam war thing,

00:28:35.380 a hundred thousand is twice as many as died during the Vietnam war. Well, yeah. Okay. That's true.

00:28:39.960 But so what, what does that mean? We're not talking about a war. Is that comparison? What

00:28:46.720 is that comparison supposed to do? Why tell us that? Why not say a hundred thousand is twice as

00:28:54.820 many as die in a normal flu season? Well, is it because that actually makes the virus sound a little

00:29:02.580 bit less scary? So if you tell people that based on the projections, you know, we might have,

00:29:08.040 you can even say two to three times as many people die as die from a normal flu season.

00:29:12.200 When you put it like that, it sounds bad. It sounds serious. But then you start thinking,

00:29:17.980 is that bad enough to justify destroying the entire economy and shutting everything down?

00:29:23.380 It's really bad, but I don't know. You start thinking that way when you frame it like that.

00:29:29.000 But when you say twice as many will die as died in Vietnam war, then you think, well, that was a war.

00:29:32.960 I mean, you think it's like this is, so this is like twice as bad as a war. Okay. Well,

00:29:35.800 that's totally different. So it's all about conditioning the way we think about this.

00:29:42.000 That's what the media is doing. Number four, this is, this is good. Very inspiring. Yesterday

00:29:46.580 was the trans day of visibility, whatever that means. And the New Jersey state government

00:29:51.320 sent out this message. It says in New Jersey, our strength is our diversity. Hashtag trans day of

00:29:57.600 visibility. I just wanted to call your attention to that because I'm very glad that New Jersey is

00:30:02.540 taking time out in the middle of a crisis to preach on, to preach about diversity and trans rights,

00:30:08.300 because that's the sort of thing we want our state governments to be focused on, right?

00:30:14.040 That's, that's, that's, uh, that's what you're, that's what we're looking for.

00:30:17.480 We want to talk about diversity, right? Number five, reading now from ABC news, uh, headline

00:30:23.800 inmates charged with violent crimes poised for release due to COVID-19. Two men allegedly involved in a

00:30:30.560 robbery where a New York city police detective was killed in friendly fire. We're among the

00:30:35.020 violent offenders on the list of inmates slated to be released from the infamous Rikers Island jail

00:30:40.680 complex due to the coronavirus pandemic. Um, I'm not going to read this entire thing. In fact,

00:30:46.480 this is just one article about, uh, them releasing prisoners or doing it in New York city.

00:30:52.240 Uh, they're doing it in California. There was, I was looking at a, a tweet from,

00:30:58.880 um, try to find it here. Um, let's see. Reporter in Boston tweet, Massachusetts highest court

00:31:09.820 considering if certain prisoners slash detainees should be released because of coronavirus threats,

00:31:14.020 uh, 25 investigates has learned a Bristol County judge already released accused child rapist,

00:31:19.720 Matthew Paris. DA tells me his attorney argued asthma puts him at risk now. And the article in ABC news

00:31:27.600 even says, and the New York city is admitting, and this is, you know, so we're talking about two

00:31:32.900 different places here, but in the case of New York city, they're admitting that some of these people

00:31:36.800 being released do pose a high risk to society, but we're going to release them anyway. An accused child

00:31:44.480 rapist is obviously a high risk individual, but we're going to release them into society because,

00:31:51.020 uh, he is at risk because of his asthma. Now I would tend to say, um, if you rape a child and he's

00:32:00.700 only accused, but if he did it, you know, if you did it and you raped a child and you have asthma and

00:32:06.800 you get coronavirus, I'm not, and I'm not too worried about that. I think that's sort of on you.

00:32:12.000 That's your problem to deal with. If you don't want to go to prison, uh, where there might be a

00:32:18.780 coronavirus epidemic that, that runs through it, maybe don't rape a child, right? That would be my 1.00

00:32:25.200 thought. So what we're doing across the country, what we find in these various states and, and,

00:32:30.280 and localities is we're, we're releasing prisoners and accused child rapists and people who are known

00:32:38.140 to be serious threats to society. We're releasing them, but we're arresting pastors.

00:32:45.740 That makes a lot of sense, doesn't it? Nothing to object to. How could you possibly object to any

00:32:50.200 of this? No, you can't. Unless you hate everyone's grandmas and you want to see everyone's grandmas

00:32:56.780 dead. It's the only, it's only way you could possibly object. Now let's move on to your daily

00:33:01.860 cancellation. And, uh, before we do, I want to mention again, what we've been telling you about the

00:33:06.660 all access live show. Uh, if you hadn't had a chance to check out some of these, then tune in

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00:33:17.840 the one, uh, for the all access live show tonight. And it's just kind of a Q and a, uh, I, I, I enjoy it.

00:33:23.920 It's a way of sort of getting past the isolation and finding a little bit of company for you and for

00:33:28.260 us, right? It's therapeutic for us as well. It's part of the reason we're doing this. Uh, and it's

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00:33:42.640 we're all in, uh, we have rolled it out for all daily wire members and we moved the timeline up.

00:33:46.940 So we're doing it now. So if you're around at, uh, tonight at 8 PM Eastern, 5 PM, 5 PM Pacific,

00:33:51.620 and you're a daily wire member, then join us for the show. And if you're not a daily wire member,

00:33:56.360 then become one. And, uh, you can be a part of that, part of that experience too. Okay.

00:34:01.380 Today for our daily cancellation, we're going to cancel a, a certain, a certain mentality,

00:34:05.140 I guess, actually is maybe what we're canceling instead of one particular individual. And that

00:34:09.900 is the mentality, the belief that parents can't be teachers to their own kids or shouldn't be.

00:34:16.540 Last week, I mentioned the Washington post posted an article that said that all of this homeschooling

00:34:22.640 that's going on during the quarantine is going to set, it's going to set our kids back. It's going

00:34:27.420 to set back an entire generation of kids. Our kids are going to be set back.

00:34:32.060 By having their own parents teach them. And now there's a, this viral post on Facebook. I'm not

00:34:37.620 going to put the guy's name out there because I'm not trying to send a mob after him. Um,

00:34:43.060 and I do think that he means well, right? So I don't think there's anything sinister going on here,

00:34:47.860 but it's a viral post. I saw it on Facebook. I've also had a bunch of people email it to me and ask

00:34:52.560 for my comment on it. Here's the, here's the post by this principal that he put up on Facebook says,

00:34:58.720 folks, I've got about 20 years in education and I'm a school principal. I cannot emphasize enough,

00:35:04.840 um, how important it is for parents to not attempt to replicate the school environment,

00:35:11.400 daily routine, or curriculum instruction at home. Don't make up worksheets or download a curriculum

00:35:16.500 guide to follow at home. Don't set recess breaks and don't reconfigure your house to include,

00:35:21.080 to include a classroom area. You are not being asked to homeschool your kids.

00:35:25.720 We are at day two of a system shutdown. This was a couple of weeks ago, I guess this, but

00:35:29.880 your kids are probably still digesting the fact that they may not get to see their friends and

00:35:33.940 teachers in the foreseeable future. Not to mention we are in the middle of a global health crisis.

00:35:38.360 Little Susie is not in any position to learn a new, a new math concept today. Modern education

00:35:43.500 isn't what we experienced as kids. The best thing you can do and the closest to their educational

00:35:47.920 reality is to do things with them, play a board game, do the dishes, sing a song,

00:35:51.740 have them help you do the laundry, bake cookies, dance in the kitchen, go sliding, have a boil up

00:35:56.960 in the yard, I don't know what that is, and have them shovel the driveway. Also, uh, give them

00:36:01.100 alone time, screen time, and ask them to tell you a story. Be with them and show them that everything

00:36:05.600 will be okay. You are their parents and family members, not their teachers. Whatever happens,

00:36:10.280 we will make sure your child has the tools needed to be, to succeed in school when the time comes

00:36:14.280 for now, be a family. Okay. Means well, right? Um, and some of what he says here, the principle

00:36:24.180 is true. You know, you should be doing things with your kids and all the things that he mentions that

00:36:29.200 you should do with your kid, I think are great things to do. I don't know what a boil up is, but,

00:36:33.640 uh, it sounds, that sounds good also. The problem though, a couple, a couple of big problems.

00:36:38.520 Um, first of all, just the concept of a school administrator helpfully telling parents what to

00:36:47.760 do with their own kids, not even framing it like, here are some ideas or this is my opinion, but

00:36:52.980 this is what you, you need to do as a parent with your own child. Now, and as I said, school,

00:36:59.480 this is very common with school administrators that they have this kind of attitude where they're

00:37:02.320 going to tell the parents what to do. And most of the time they, they feel, you know, they don't

00:37:08.140 mean any harm by it. They're just trying to help you out there. They're school administrators.

00:37:11.420 They know more than you do about your own kid and about how to handle kids because they,

00:37:15.300 they work in a school and you don't. So they're just going to tell you what you need to do

00:37:18.340 just because it's well-intentioned doesn't, it doesn't make it right. And doesn't make it any

00:37:24.740 less annoying or any less troubling. In fact, that this is the kind of attitude that school

00:37:27.900 administrators have. And then there's the second big problem of, um, you are their parents,

00:37:34.700 not their teachers. That is the pun intended, the mother of all false dichotomies.

00:37:42.560 Talk about a false choice, be their parent or their teacher. No, actually as a parent, you're both.

00:37:50.300 You are not only a teacher, but you are their most important teacher.

00:37:55.700 Even if you don't homeschool, even if it's a normal situation and they're going to school for five days

00:38:00.800 a week, you're still their most important teacher. And the majority of lessons that they take out of

00:38:06.280 childhood, they're going to take from you like it or not good or bad. You are their first primary,

00:38:13.820 most important teacher by far. So you are their parent, not their teacher. Uh, that is just wrong.

00:38:22.340 And again, it's a common attitude among school administrators, among some teachers, not all

00:38:27.880 in the public school system, where they kind of, the attitude they have to the parents is, hey,

00:38:33.380 butt out. This is not your purview. You don't have a specialty. You don't have a degree in this. I do.

00:38:40.200 And so don't attempt to teach your own kids as if it's rocket science, right? It's like, it's as if

00:38:45.700 someone who doesn't have any training tried to build a literal rocket ship on their own.

00:38:49.220 Okay. In that case, you could say you are not a rocket science scientist. Don't do that.

00:38:55.060 But teaching your kid actually is not rocket science. Um, not saying it's easy,

00:39:00.420 but you know, any parent can do it. In fact, although what he says about not replicating,

00:39:08.820 uh, the public school environment, a lot of that is true. I agree with that. Uh, maybe not for the

00:39:15.520 reasons that he says it, but it's true. I think it's one of the advantages of homeschooling is

00:39:21.900 that you don't have to have that kind of Uber structured environment, although you still do

00:39:26.920 want some structure. And, um, some of the things that you do, uh, you know, what, what was he

00:39:35.640 mentioned? Recess breaks and that sort of thing. Reconfiguring your house to include a classroom

00:39:41.000 area. I mean, that's, we, we homeschool, we have a, we have a classroom area downstairs. I think

00:39:44.340 that's, that is good stuff to do. But at the end of the day, as a parent, you make those decisions.

00:39:49.800 Okay. Let's go to emails. We have a little bit of time to read through some of these. Um,

00:39:55.100 we've got a bunch of why I'm wrongs today and we'll, we'll go through them quickly as we can.

00:39:58.960 This is from Jeffrey says, Matt, you chose the wrong horse to ride with that pastor story. That

00:40:04.600 pastor is a charlatan in it for the money. That's the only reason he held the service. Usually you

00:40:09.140 criticize snake oil salesmen like him. Well, yeah, Jeffrey, but that's, that's not really relevant.

00:40:14.420 Uh, if it's true, I don't know the pastor we talked about yesterday that got arrested. I don't

00:40:19.960 know anything about him. Not a thing. That's the first time I've heard his name. Maybe he's a

00:40:24.800 charlatan. Maybe he's not. That's not the point. He's not the horse I'm riding. Okay. I'm writing

00:40:30.520 the first amendment and I'm saying that we should still have the right to hold a worship service

00:40:34.900 without getting arrested. Charlatan or not from Sean. I'm a conservative and Christian,

00:40:40.540 but I thought you were extremely irresponsible in your commentary, parentheses show and op-ed

00:40:45.760 yesterday, re church closings. Pastors who hold church gatherings are being foolishly reckless.

00:40:51.140 We have to speak out against this behavior that puts others at risk, not endorse it as

00:40:54.780 you have done. That's my two cents. Still love the show. Thank you. Uh, well, Sean, I think that

00:41:01.440 you're missing the point a little bit. I never said that. I think pastors should be holding worship

00:41:07.020 services. I didn't say that whether doing so as reckless, as you say, is, is, is not my point.

00:41:12.740 In fact, many churches, most, it seems to me chose to shut down voluntarily before the government

00:41:18.600 got involved. My church did all the churches in my area that I'm, that I'm aware of shut down before

00:41:24.100 it was forced on them by the state. And you may have noticed, I never criticized any of those

00:41:30.000 churches. I didn't bring the issue up until yesterday. Why is that? Because I think there's

00:41:35.220 a big difference because to me, there's, there's, there's a big difference between churches choosing

00:41:40.360 to follow social distancing guidelines as most of them were and the government enforcing those

00:41:47.320 guidelines at gunpoint. Once that happens, I think we have a problem, a huge problem. And when I say

00:41:53.580 gunpoint, a lot of people took issue with me, I kept saying the government is enforcing this at

00:41:56.600 gunpoint. Yes, they are. Everything the government does is at gunpoint because the implication is

00:42:03.700 always, we've got guys with guns and, uh, and, and they don't have to actually brand this shit. 0.71

00:42:10.900 Every time the government uses force, every time the government makes an arrest,

00:42:14.080 enforces a law, it is always done at gunpoint. I'm not saying the government should never enforce

00:42:19.000 any law. I'm just saying that's the reality. And if they're shutting down churches, they are doing

00:42:23.720 it. Yes. At gunpoint. Um, from Laura says, dear Matt, I've been a fan for a while. I'm a conservative

00:42:29.700 Christian, but I strongly disagree with the direction you've gone recently. The coronavirus

00:42:33.020 is a public health crisis and the government is doing what must be done to curb it. Whining about

00:42:37.740 your freedoms and the first amendment just feels petty to me. And it seems like you don't appreciate

00:42:42.160 that lives are at stake. Okay, Laura, well, you say you're a conservative and Christian. You agree

00:42:46.460 with the government summarily labeling all churches, non-essential closing them indefinitely

00:42:50.180 and arresting pastors to hold worship services. I just feel like that position

00:42:55.140 seems to be contrary to nearly every principle I associate with conservatism. Uh, and, and that's

00:43:02.860 where I stand from Ryan says today's the first time I've ever questioned your status as the all

00:43:08.920 knowing King of the universe. However, you're dead mistaken insofar as you think it's unconstitutional

00:43:13.360 to suspend worship services under employment division versus Smith. It is perfectly constitutional

00:43:17.900 to re to restrict religion. So long as the law is quote neutral and generally applicable

00:43:22.760 as to its potential impact on every citizen equally and does not target a specific race

00:43:27.320 group or religion. It does not violate the first amendment. Even where, even where the state

00:43:31.400 interest is trivial, the government may adopt restrictions as long as the law fits the

00:43:36.040 aforementioned parameters. Um, the greatest must fall to be humbled. Okay, Ryan, well, first of all,

00:43:42.600 I'm aware that the courts would probably allow this, but that really doesn't interest me very much.

00:43:48.560 I have to be honest with you. Um, you know, every time we're talking about something like this and

00:43:53.020 someone says, well, the court said it was okay. All right. I don't really care. The courts allow a lot

00:43:58.280 of things that are clearly wrong, clearly tyrannical, clearly outside the scope of what the law

00:44:03.320 originally intended. The courts to remind you have decided that you have a God given right to kill

00:44:08.240 your child. I, you could tell me all day, the court said, it's okay. I don't care. It doesn't make it

00:44:13.160 okay. Now I understand practically speaking, it gives the government the authority to do it, but also

00:44:19.140 remember that the judicial branch is part of the government. So this is the government giving itself

00:44:22.680 authority to do things. So the fact that what you're basically telling me is the government has

00:44:29.040 given itself the authority to do it. Therefore it has the authority. I understand that that is

00:44:32.420 practically speaking how it works. Um, but I still don't think it's right. Okay. That's, that's it.

00:44:39.860 My argument is that arresting pastors, banning worship services, banning people from gathering,

00:44:44.700 uh, indefinitely as is happening. Um, this clearly represents an annihilation of, or at least a suspension

00:44:54.680 of the first amendment. The first amendment guarantees as an inalienable right, the very thing the

00:45:00.100 government right now today will arrest you for doing. Now the courts can say that's okay. I just

00:45:05.120 disagree. I think it's clearly wrong. And it's obviously, it obviously represents a suspension

00:45:09.700 of those rights. Nobody wants to see it that way, but the first amendment says you can do it right now.

00:45:14.740 The government is saying, if you do it, you'll be arrested. How can they both exist? How can we

00:45:19.240 pretend that the first amendment is still right now active and functional while you'll be arrested

00:45:25.320 for doing the things that the first amendment says you have a right to do. But, um, as for the

00:45:31.760 court's decisions there, you know, you say neutral and generally applicable. Well, I would argue that

00:45:37.420 the shutdowns and quarantines are neither of those. The government is subjectively deeming certain

00:45:42.660 businesses and organizations as essential while labeling others non-essential, then closing the

00:45:47.820 ones that it has decided are non-essential. So now the government says, well, you know, if you're

00:45:52.820 non-essential, we can shut you down. Who decides if it's not essential? They do. And there's not any

00:45:58.160 real calculus here. Um, it's just, it, and it, and it appears to be very arbitrary. So for example,

00:46:05.520 in my state, abortion clinics are essential. Beer stores are essential. Fast food drive-through is

00:46:13.840 essential. Starbucks drive-through is essential. All of those things are essential. Uh, I, I disagree

00:46:22.800 I don't think they're essential. And I think a church is more essential, but they're at least

00:46:28.560 equally as inessential depending on how you look at it. Right. But that's just my opinion. It's a

00:46:34.100 matter of opinion and it's the government's opinion. It's, or these, or these individual,

00:46:38.900 you know, governors or whoever's making these decisions, depending on what level we're talking

00:46:42.080 about. Uh, now I'm not arguing by the way that we should shut down all those places I just mentioned.

00:46:47.120 I'm glad that some of them get to stay open. At least there's some semblance of an economy

00:46:51.220 still going. So I wouldn't want to see those shut down. I'm just saying that obviously, I mean,

00:46:55.940 when you, when you're talking about they're shutting out, there's a, there's a, there's a

00:46:59.260 pandemic and supposedly millions are going to die if we don't do it. And you're keeping the beer

00:47:03.420 stores open, the beer distributors. Come on. I'm glad they're open. I have taken advantage of that

00:47:08.960 and gone and gotten some beer during this. Okay. It's helped me get through, get through the,

00:47:12.020 uh, difficult and trying time, but essential, obviously not.

00:47:17.500 So if you're really taking this seriously, if this is really necessary to stop the pandemic,

00:47:23.600 then you would shut that down because like, so you're saying it's, it's, it's, it's worth the

00:47:29.440 risk. I went to a liquor store the other day and there was easily, I don't know, uh, you know,

00:47:39.160 20 people in there milling around. It's essential. Okay. Court, and the, but the court will say it's

00:47:47.920 all right. All right, fine. The court says that I don't agree. Um, but thank you for that, uh, email

00:47:54.480 anyway. And thank you for all the emails. I, as I said, um, I, I have to say, um, I shouldn't be

00:47:59.900 shocked. I am a little bit shocked that I didn't expect, I expected an argument. I didn't think I was

00:48:06.420 saying anything that would be very popular. Um, nothing I say, I guess is popular. It seems like,

00:48:10.820 but, uh, I was, I wasn't expecting just based on the reaction I've gotten from emails and things,

00:48:17.580 it seems to be like 70, 30 against my position and in favor of arresting pastors. And, uh, that's just,

00:48:25.320 you know, that is an anecdotal based on just the feedback I've gotten personally, but

00:48:29.660 I was surprised by that. I have to say, um, we'll leave it there though. Thanks for watching

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The Matt Walsh Show - April 01, 2020

Ep. 457 - How We Are Setting A Precedent For Future Democratic Administrations To Exploit

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