The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 458 - Full Scale Economic Collapse

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, the new jobless numbers are in, the unemployment numbers,

00:00:03.600 and they are absolutely staggering. We'll talk about those today. And five headlines,

00:00:08.640 including the governor of California saying that the current crisis we're in should be used as an

00:00:13.540 opportunity to usher in a new progressive era, which is exactly what I was talking about on the

00:00:18.560 show yesterday. So as if to prove my point, he came out and said that, we'll talk about it.

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00:02:03.020 that we sent you. Okay. I know people complain to me that I harp on the economic doom and gloom

00:02:12.440 a little bit too much. And maybe I do, but I'm hosting a show, an essential show. Podcasting is

00:02:18.220 an essential service during this pandemic, in case you didn't know. We in the media, we're essential.

00:02:25.940 I'm, of course, everybody's job is essential, right? Everyone's job is essential to them. So

00:02:30.220 that distinction doesn't really make any sense to me. I'm, anyway, but I'm hosting a, I happen to be

00:02:35.720 hosting a show during, during a period in history where our civilization is willfully plunging itself

00:02:41.460 into economic ruination, which as I have said, and many others have said, is just something that

00:02:47.380 has never happened before. No, no, especially certainly in modern history, no country has chosen

00:02:54.580 to do this to itself. So it's hard for me to see that there could be very, very many topics more

00:03:00.000 important than this to talk about, especially because I like to focus on topics that I've always

00:03:05.700 preferred to focus on things that are going to affect your life, impact your life and your family

00:03:12.460 in, in very direct ways. Those are the things that I think are most important to discuss. Well,

00:03:19.360 here's, here is something. I think the economic ruination of your country is certainly something

00:03:25.600 that will affect you. It'll affect me. It'll affect everybody. And especially when so much of the rest

00:03:31.160 of the media is all but ignoring this, the mass media, the mainstream media, they're talking about

00:03:37.500 the virus, of course, but the economic ruination of our society is not something that they've deemed

00:03:42.400 especially newsworthy. And they're giving us all these projections, these worst case scenario

00:03:47.660 projections that keep changing conspicuously about what the virus might do. And, and, and okay, but

00:03:54.980 what about some projections on where we're headed economically? Which brings us to today's big news,

00:04:01.780 the kind of news again, that is impossible to ignore. I think to talk about anything else would

00:04:07.420 be sort of malpractice, podcasting malpractice. 6.6 million unemployment claims last week. 6.6 million.

00:04:17.860 In one week. In one week. Last week was 3 million, which was the highest ever in recorded history.

00:04:27.820 So we have the highest ever recorded history last week. And then the next week, this, this past week

00:04:34.420 was a double the worst ever in history. This is what exponential growth looks like. We keep hearing

00:04:40.440 about exponential growth. Well, here you go. This is what it looks like. By the way, that 3 million

00:04:46.200 figure was about four times worse than the previous worst ever recorded it. And that was in 1982.

00:04:55.200 And it was also more than four times worse, the worst recorded during the great recession 10 years ago.

00:05:00.680 So this now, now, and then the 6 million number, I know there's a lot of math, hope I'm doing all

00:05:07.140 this right. But the 6 million number then is, is about 10 times worse than the worst that had ever

00:05:14.380 been recorded previous to the economic shutdown. Which brings us nice and symmetrically to 10 million

00:05:21.660 unemployed people officially in two weeks. And I emphasize officially because that doesn't account

00:05:27.800 for all the many millions of people who don't qualify for unemployment, haven't applied or tried

00:05:34.380 to apply and weren't able to get through because the websites are crashing all over the country and

00:05:37.980 the phone lines are jammed. So what's the actual number? The actual number is much higher than 10

00:05:42.180 million in two weeks. It's, which means that the situation is much worse than it looks and it looks

00:05:49.480 catastrophic. Now you probably don't need me to keep rephrasing the numbers in different ways,

00:05:55.480 but here's another way of looking at it. 10 million jobs lost in 14 days averages over 700,000 jobs a day

00:06:02.580 lost, which means we're losing more jobs in a day than we lost in a week during the peak of the

00:06:11.100 recession 10 years ago. And these numbers, despite what you may hear, do not represent simply lost

00:06:21.520 money. It represents ruined lives. It represents suffering. It represents mothers and fathers who

00:06:27.880 can't feed their kids. So at this point, anyone who responds to concerns over the economic situation by

00:06:35.640 saying you're putting money over people, anyone who responds that way must either be a sub 65 IQ 1.00

00:06:43.000 moron or a liar. Because there's just no way that a rational, honest, intelligent person could fail to 1.00

00:06:51.060 understand, could look at, could look at 10 million unemployed people in 14 days, 700,000 a day, and not

00:06:56.620 understand why we're worried about it. I'm not saying that you have to be dumb or lying to disagree with 0.98

00:07:02.980 my position, um, that we should try to reopen the economy. I'm not saying that if you support 0.95

00:07:08.000 the shutdowns, you're dumb or a liar. That's, that's not what I'm saying. I'm saying that you 0.99

00:07:12.080 have to be dumb or lying to argue that those of us who want to reopen the economy while taking 1.00

00:07:17.640 precautions at the same time are a bunch of greedy money grubbers. You, how could any, but you still 1.00

00:07:24.740 hear this. You're still going to hear this 10 million unemployed people. You're still going to hear the

00:07:30.340 argument, quote unquote, that if you are raising economic concerns, you're putting money over

00:07:35.120 people. You don't care about people's lives. And most of the people saying that they're not sub 65

00:07:41.840 IQ morons. Some of them are, most of them are just liars. They're trying to shut you down. 1.00

00:07:47.160 They don't want this discussion. And then you, you really have to start questioning their motives,

00:07:51.880 especially if we're dealing with people in the media. Why are they so desperate to prevent us from

00:07:56.860 having this discussion and talking about where we're heading, headed economically and projecting

00:08:01.640 all this projecting going on? Well, projecting what this will look like in two, three, four, five

00:08:06.540 months. The hope of course, is that somehow everything will quickly and quietly and easily

00:08:14.520 just pop back into place when all this is over, like a dislocated shoulder or something, pop it back

00:08:19.460 into place and go about your day. Economy opens up, jobs come back, companies resurrect themselves

00:08:25.920 from the dead, like a mass Easter miracle. And, and in the meantime, the government just spends a few

00:08:31.620 trillion bucks here, a few trillion bucks there to keep the wheels churning. That's, that's the hope

00:08:35.840 that a lot of people have. And I hope that it happens too. I have no choice but to hope that. Of

00:08:40.060 course, I hope that that's what's what, what will happen. And I, is it impossible? No, of course,

00:08:45.060 it's not impossible. It is possible in the sense that, in sense that anything that is not inherently

00:08:50.000 illogical is therefore possible. I mean, it's, it's possible that a kangaroo could sprout wings and fly

00:08:56.400 across the, uh, the outback. That's, it's possible, technically, probably not going to happen.

00:09:05.040 And with this, the idea that the economy is going to easily, quickly snap back into place,

00:09:11.900 possible, very unlikely though, I would think. Uh, the greater possibility at this point,

00:09:20.500 the much higher likelihood is that we are causing deep long-term damage to our economy

00:09:24.780 and our society that will not be easily healed or reversed. That's probably what's going to happen.

00:09:31.000 Now, yes, when the shutdowns end, whenever that happens, whenever that should, should occur,

00:09:36.100 uh, there are going to be people who get their jobs back. Some are furloughed, uh, and some of

00:09:42.880 those will actually get their job back. There, there are others that lose the job, will end up

00:09:47.620 getting hired somewhere else. So nobody's suggesting that if we end up with 40 million unemployed people

00:09:53.560 by the end of April, which we very well could, uh, no one's saying that those 40 million people

00:09:59.240 are never going to get another job again, but it seems very likely that a large percentage

00:10:09.460 will be unemployed for quite a while.

00:10:14.900 And even when people start getting jobs again, we're also looking at a reordering,

00:10:20.700 a reshuffling of our economy and our society in a very fundamental way. Uh, we're looking at a

00:10:25.400 corporate takeover, which yes, has, has, has, that's been in the process of happening as we

00:10:31.840 know in our economy for decades. But now this is that the final push that sort of puts the nail in

00:10:38.520 the coffin of a lot of small businesses. Walmart is still hiring. Target is still hiring. Amazon is

00:10:44.080 hiring while small businesses are getting decimated, completely decimated, which is, which is a big

00:10:51.700 coincidence, isn't it? Isn't it a coincidence that places like, you know, these big, these big retail

00:10:57.580 chains, these big, uh, corporate chains in, in so many cases, they managed to get filed under the

00:11:04.780 essential column while, while, while small businesses are folding up going under because

00:11:10.080 they're not essential. It's interesting that the companies with money and influence happen to be

00:11:17.380 essential while the small businesses with very little money and very little influence are not.

00:11:24.540 But don't question that, right? Our bureaucratic overlords, they have decreed it and we, you will just

00:11:30.660 trust them. It doesn't inspire much hope or confidence either when on the rare occasion that you hear one

00:11:38.800 of these medical experts who are recommending these steps, when you hear them actually address the

00:11:43.260 economic and societal implications, acknowledge them at least. When they do invariably, it really seems

00:11:49.500 that they don't appreciate or understand the consequences of the steps that they're recommending.

00:11:53.020 So for example, Dr. Fauci, Fauci was being interviewed this morning on the Today Show, I believe. And, uh,

00:12:02.040 he's, he's, he's, he, he talks about the economic, he does mention the economic implications,

00:12:08.280 but look at how he describes and categorizes them. Listen, the surgeon general was on with us just

00:12:16.520 yesterday and said, my advice is that the 30 day guidelines to stay home from the federal government

00:12:22.220 amount to a national stay at home order. Is that how you see it too? Do you agree?

00:12:28.400 Well, yeah. I mean, if you look at what's in those 30 day recommendations of the guidelines,

00:12:33.940 that's essentially what it is. I mean, I know it's difficult, but we're having a lot of suffering,

00:12:39.780 a lot of death. This is inconvenient from an economic and a personal standpoint, but we just

00:12:45.260 have to do it. That is our major weapon against this virus right now. We don't have a vaccine that's

00:12:52.700 deployable. This is the only thing we have and we can get through it if everybody really leans forward

00:12:58.860 and pushes. Inconvenient. It's inconvenient. You're not allowed to say 10, 10, 10 million jobs

00:13:10.980 lost in two weeks, 700,000 a day for two weeks. Inconvenient. 40 million jobs lost, uh, probably by

00:13:17.640 the end of the month. Inconvenient. But on the other hand, you're not allowed to say that the

00:13:24.040 coronavirus is just the flu, which, which it isn't right. But, but you can't say that yet.

00:13:31.100 The people coming up with these policies can describe the obliteration of our entire economy

00:13:35.500 as a mere inconvenience. Hey, I know it's inconvenient that you lost your livelihood, your income.

00:13:41.600 You have three kids. You can't feed house. You can't pay for bills. You can't pay.

00:13:48.560 Hey, a small business owner. I know that you spent your entire life working to this.

00:13:52.040 If you put your whole life and everything in, in, into this business, it's everything you've ever

00:13:57.320 worked for. And in the span of two weeks, you've watched it come crashing down and taken away from

00:14:01.520 you. That's inconvenient. Sorry about the inconvenience. No biggie. Just didn't get just

00:14:08.480 like a stubbed toe, you know, a speed bump in the road. No big deal. How do we accept that?

00:14:15.180 How is that acceptable? And, and as I said, how much confidence can it really inspire in us?

00:14:26.380 I mean, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's bad enough when we feel like we can't trust the projections,

00:14:37.940 the scientific projections that doctors and scientists are giving us.

00:14:43.820 Uh, but then when, when you realize that these are people who have no grasp on the economic

00:14:52.220 implications and what they actually mean,

00:14:54.580 by the way, uh, I also want to mention this before we go to headlines.

00:15:02.060 There is, you know, we look at this as, as, uh, the economy versus the healthcare system.

00:15:12.060 And we have to shut down the economy to save the healthcare system. So the healthcare system

00:15:15.360 isn't overwhelmed, right? That's the argument anyway. And I think that that the idea that we

00:15:21.400 have to shut down the entire economy to save the healthcare system is wrong for many reasons that

00:15:25.440 I've described ad nauseum. And there are, there are other options, but there's also another,

00:15:29.580 another aspect of this that actually what we're finding as a Sean Davis over the Federalist

00:15:35.740 is, is, is, uh, demonstrated on Twitter, this long tweet thread, I'll go through some of these,

00:15:42.220 but what we're finding is that, is that actually shutting down the economy

00:15:45.900 is having a devastating impact on the healthcare industry too.

00:15:52.260 So just reading from a Sean Davis on Twitter, he says, get ready. This is going to start happening

00:15:56.600 at hospitals and private medical practices all over the country. In the name of flattening the curve,

00:16:00.940 we are economically destroying healthcare capacity. And he links to an article, um, saying the Boston

00:16:08.100 Medical Center has furloughed 700 employees, 10% of the hospital's workforce. And then there's a long

00:16:15.100 thread of this sort of thing happening. Um, in Ohio, they've got 700 Mercy health workers lose their jobs,

00:16:24.340 uh, uh, Kentucky hospital chain furloughs about 500 employees. Connecticut Children's Hospital furloughs 400.

00:16:35.680 Prisma Health joins growing list of U.S. hospitals to furlough employees.

00:16:40.760 Williamson Medical Center furloughing nearly 200 employees. That's in Tennessee. And it goes on and on

00:16:46.620 all across the country. We're finding that, that people in the healthcare industry are losing their

00:16:54.920 jobs. Now we were told that there's going to, the hospitals are going to be overwhelmed all across

00:16:57.700 the country. And so you're going to, uh, the last thing they're going to be doing is laying people

00:17:00.820 off. Well, no, that's, they're laying people off. And a lot of that is the, is the, is the,

00:17:08.480 is the economic shutdown. So this, this has implications beyond just people losing their jobs,

00:17:18.740 as if you can really put a just in front of that. It also has implications for the healthcare industry too.

00:17:26.880 Let's move on to five headlines before we do, you know, the all access live shows that we've been

00:17:32.420 telling you about. Uh, you really should, if you're, if you're a Daily Wire member, you should tune into

00:17:36.060 one of these. I think it's a lot of fun. And if you're not a Daily Wire member, the member that

00:17:39.400 become a Daily Wire member. I did one yesterday and, uh, just a relaxed vibe, you know, just kind

00:17:44.860 of a Q and a type of thing. But my three-year-old son barged his way into the all access live show.

00:17:52.140 And, uh, uh, we, I was, it was eight o'clock at night on the East coast. Anyway, when we do these,

00:17:56.980 he's supposed to be in bed, he came up. And so he got, he was, he was, uh, he joined me a cameo

00:18:01.280 appearance for about three minutes, which by the way, uh, my other kids, you know, I have four kids

00:18:07.880 and at least the other two, the youngest is a baby. So she's not really clued in, but the other,

00:18:12.660 my other, the older kids, when they found out that their little brother got to join me

00:18:17.340 for, uh, you know, for a show there were jealous. And so they want to be on a show too. So I think

00:18:23.080 tomorrow actually at the end of the show on a Friday, I'm going to have my other kids in here

00:18:27.740 and we'll do a little Q and a with them. I'll do a little interview with my, with my kids off

00:18:32.720 camera. I'm going to keep them off camera to the side. Cause I don't really want one camera, but

00:18:35.340 we'll do a little, like I did with my, my son last night on the show, a little, little Q and a,

00:18:39.300 if you have any questions for my kids, uh, you know, they're six years old, they've got great wisdom.

00:18:47.820 As many kids are these days, my kids are very woke. So any questions you might have,

00:18:52.100 then email them to me and I'll, maybe I'll ask them. It could be political, ideological, philosophical,

00:18:57.040 theological. These are very wise, intelligent kids. Trust me. Uh, anyway, the all access live

00:19:03.520 show. Yes. Uh, I got distracted there all access live and it's, it was really originally going to

00:19:07.600 be for our all access members, but now it's for all daily wire members. And so you could tune in,

00:19:11.760 uh, tonight at 8 PM Eastern, 5 PM Pacific. Okay. Going to five headlines. Number one,

00:19:19.720 governor Gavin Newsom of California fielded a question yesterday about whether this crisis is a

00:19:25.340 quote opportunity to usher in a new progressive era. And his answer was yes, yes, absolutely.

00:19:33.340 I'm wondering if you see the potential as some others in the party do for a new progressive

00:19:39.980 era, if you want to call it that in, um, national politics and policy and whether there's the

00:19:46.460 opportunity for additionally progressive steps, um, such as the ones that I listed on the national

00:19:52.560 and state level, uh, going forward, you know, because of this crisis, what's the opportunity

00:19:57.360 to your question, uh, for re-imagining, uh, a more progressive era as it relates to, uh, capitalism.

00:20:04.000 And I'm, I'm a capitalist. I'm a small business owner. I'm a job creator. Well, my customers are

00:20:09.440 the job craters. I'm beneficiary of their support. Uh, and that helps build that demand that allows me

00:20:15.360 to hire more people. And so as a former business owner, now governor, uh, I have had that experience

00:20:20.720 and I have that appreciation of the importance, uh, of consumer confidence, consumer spending

00:20:26.080 in a vibrant middle-class. And so, yes, forgive me for being long-winded, uh, but absolutely we see

00:20:31.920 this as an opportunity to reshape, uh, the way we do business and how we govern. And that shouldn't put

00:20:38.880 shivers up the spines of, you know, one party or the other. I think it's an opportunity anew for both

00:20:43.840 parties to come together and meet this moment and really start to think more systemically,

00:20:48.720 not situationally, not just about getting out of this moment, but more sustainably and systemically

00:20:55.120 to consider where we can go together, this historic moment, if we meet it at a national level and a

00:21:00.800 state and sub-national level. So answer is yes. This is exactly what I was talking about on the

00:21:04.960 show yesterday. You see that this is not a conspiracy theory. My, my conspire concern is that the response

00:21:12.480 right now from the government and the acceptance of the response from the populace will set a

00:21:17.280 precedent for future liberal regimes in the United States to exploit and use to shove their ideological

00:21:24.240 vision agenda, uh, down our collective throats. And if you listen to them, uh, they'll tell you that,

00:21:32.320 yes, that is exactly what we're going to do. That's exactly the plan. As you just heard from

00:21:38.480 Gavin Newsom there. Number two, Catherine Schwarzenegger daughter, daughter of Arnold took

00:21:43.680 to Twitter last night to urge the mayor of Los Angeles to shut down the local farmer's market.

00:21:49.920 She tweeted at the mayor saying the farmer's market in Brentwood still being open seems like a huge issue

00:21:55.760 when it comes to social gatherings. Now this really annoys me because what's the goal here to shut down

00:22:01.840 every last small business to ensure that nobody can earn a living unless they work for a corporate chain.

00:22:05.920 God forbid, God forbid forbid somebody buy food from a place that is not Walmart or Target.

00:22:13.360 God forbid they, they patronize something that doesn't have a, the word super center attached to it.

00:22:18.480 There is no reason why you're at a, you're at a farmer's market. I don't care if it's crowded.

00:22:22.960 A farmer's market is at least outside.

00:22:27.520 So why would it be more dangerous to be outside at a farmer's market milling around,

00:22:33.840 even if there are other people than it is to be inside crammed in with a hundred other shoppers at

00:22:38.720 a Walmart or a target or someplace like that. Number three, the government over in the UK is

00:22:45.760 unveiling a GPS tracking app that will warn you if sick people are nearby. It will track the sick

00:22:51.840 people for you. And if there's one near you or headed your way, you can dive into the bushes or

00:22:55.920 something to get out of the way. Now this is supposedly going to be an opt-in situation. So if you're sick,

00:23:01.760 you have to, I guess, sign up to be GPS tracked by the government. And it's hoped or expected,

00:23:07.600 according to Sky News, that more than 50% of the population will sign up for it. Can you imagine

00:23:13.360 signing up to be tracked by the government, explicitly signing up for it? Well, I'm sick,

00:23:19.600 better give my GPS coordinates to the health department. Is that something you could ever see

00:23:25.200 yourself saying? Here's an idea. If you're sick, stay home, avoid people. That way you don't need

00:23:34.800 to feel obligated to be tagged and tracked like some kind of wild animal on a nature preserve.

00:23:41.680 And I could also see this backfiring in a big way. Well, it backfires already in terms of civil

00:23:46.720 liberties and privacy and everything. But, well, that's not really a backfire. In fact, the whole point

00:23:52.000 is to infringe on those things. So that doesn't backfire there. It works. But I could see it backfiring

00:23:57.120 in somebody signs up for this and they're sick. And then they figure, well, I can go out in public

00:24:01.520 now because everyone's going to get a warning to get out of my way. So isn't it going to encourage

00:24:08.320 people to leave the house when otherwise they should just be staying in? And what if you have people

00:24:13.360 like me who might consider signing up and telling the health department that I'm sick

00:24:19.120 just so that people will avoid me and get out of the way? That sounds kind of nice.

00:24:26.960 If you're going somewhere, you think it's going to be crowded, you know, you just tell you, you

00:24:31.600 register for the thing. You say, you say, I'm sick. You walk into the building. Everyone gets an alert

00:24:36.880 on their phone. Danger, danger, sick person. And they all clear, clear a path like Moses parting the water,

00:24:42.780 the Red Sea. Number four, Dr. Fauci was asked when the social distancing will be relaxed. This was

00:24:53.340 yesterday at the White House press conference. And he was asked the question that's on everybody's mind.

00:24:58.460 When are we going to be done with this? And his answer was rather troubling. Listen.

00:25:03.900 Looking beyond when we're on the other side of this curve, are we looking at living with some

00:25:10.380 sort of social distancing guidelines essentially until there's treatment or a vaccine? For example,

00:25:16.460 people looking forward to the summer talk about, you know, going to baseball games,

00:25:20.220 going to concerts. We have political conventions over the summer. Are things like that possible or

00:25:25.260 safe without a vaccine or a treatment in place? Yeah, I think if we get to the part of the curve that

00:25:30.940 Dr. Burke showed yesterday when it goes down to essentially no new cases, no deaths at a period

00:25:39.260 of time, I think it makes sense that you're going to have to relax social distancing. What was that?

00:25:47.100 No new cases or deaths. That's what we're waiting for. Couldn't that be months or years away?

00:25:53.660 Couldn't that potentially never happen if it becomes endemic?

00:25:56.620 So what are you saying? Now, he did say for a period of time. So what's that mean?

00:26:04.780 Are we waiting until there's no deaths or new cases for a day? Well, even that could be many

00:26:10.620 months out. Who knows? And also, there's the question of what does social distancing mean in

00:26:16.300 this context? It seems clear to me that in this context, it means exactly what we're doing now.

00:26:22.620 In fact, you heard in the clip we played earlier of Dr. Fauci, where he was asked about the Surgeon

00:26:28.140 General. The Surgeon General said that from his perspective, the social distancing guidelines

00:26:33.100 passed down by the federal government amount to a national stay-at-home order. Dr. Fauci said he

00:26:39.580 agrees with that interpretation. So when he says social distancing could last another

00:26:44.540 many months or longer, it seems like he's saying a national stay-at-home order could last that long,

00:26:53.340 because he equates the two, apparently. But there's a lot of, it's very unclear,

00:27:00.380 and there's a lot of ambiguity in this, which is a problem. And it's not enough to say,

00:27:06.700 well, nobody knows exactly, so you have to cut them some slack, give them some space,

00:27:10.940 let them figure it out. No, that's not good enough. When you're in the process of tearing

00:27:18.000 our society apart and ruining the economy, no, we're not going to cut you slack. You need to be

00:27:25.640 more specific. You just, you need to be. Number five, okay, how about something not, that's non-corona

00:27:33.460 related? You've heard of Tiger King, I'm sure, the Netflix documentary about Joe Exotic, the zoo owner,

00:27:38.140 and the other weirdo zoo owners. Well, it turns out that some of the people portrayed in that

00:27:43.280 documentary do not, shockingly, do not much appreciate their portrayal. So reading from a

00:27:48.740 Daily Wire report says, according to People Magazine, Bhagavan Doc Antle, who runs a famed

00:27:56.400 exotic animal preserve in Myrtle Beach, South Carolina, told TMX News that Tiger King falsely

00:28:03.740 portrayed him as a cult-like polygamist, asserting that the filmmakers misled him on the show's

00:28:08.300 subject. Antle says, remember, this is not a documentary, this is a salacious, outrageous

00:28:12.800 ride through a television show produced to create drama, to just tie you into some crazy train wreck

00:28:18.480 of a story between the feud of Carole Baskin and Joe Exotic and the meltdown that ensued.

00:28:22.940 Um, so he says, just to summarize, he says that he thought they were doing a documentary about his

00:28:31.940 charitable conservation work that he's doing in Africa. And, uh, and according to him, he worked

00:28:38.660 with the director for over two years. He was asked hundreds of questions in, in these marathon

00:28:43.040 interview sessions. Only a few of the questions were about Joe Exotic and all the soap opera there.

00:28:49.140 Yet they, they, the, the documentary maker tossed out all of that other material that Doc Antle thought

00:28:57.660 the show was about and only included the stuff about Joe Exotic. I don't know if that's true or not, but

00:29:03.140 it does remind us that when you're watching, and I watched this, this documentary too, uh, it is,

00:29:11.760 I have nothing to say that hasn't already been said about it. It's fascinating and entertaining,

00:29:17.000 but it does remind us that, uh, when you're watching these Netflix documentaries that are

00:29:24.640 so popular now, especially the true crime stuff, it is, it's entertainment. It's a show.

00:29:31.120 So to call it a documentary, it's like, we call it that almost as a, uh, a euphemism. It's really

00:29:39.640 just entertainment. Think about making a murderer and how they were able to, that was, I thought was a

00:29:43.640 fascinating quote unquote documentary. It was great TV, great entertainment. Now we could talk about

00:29:50.320 the, uh, ethical implications of finding entertainment out of a real life murder. That, that, that does

00:29:57.300 feel a little dirty, a little bit wrong. But in any case, um, you are, you know, you watch making

00:30:03.360 murder when that came out and it was, it really made Stephen Avery seem like this, seem like this

00:30:08.160 decent, good guy, innocent man. Uh, and then you sit down and you actually do some research into

00:30:13.080 the case afterwards and you find out that no, he was a mass murdering, uh, well not mass murdering, 0.99

00:30:17.580 but certainly a murdering rapist, psychopath. That was pretty clear, but they left out a lot 0.98

00:30:21.760 of details and they were able to shape the story how they wanted. It very easily probably could have

00:30:26.860 happened too with this Joe exotic thing. Who knows? Okay. Uh, finally, actually number six,

00:30:31.180 let me, I just want to add a bonus, a bonus story I wanted to throw in here. A little bit of good

00:30:35.320 news, some good news I wanted to put in a doctor appeared on Laura Ingram show yesterday and said

00:30:39.440 that he thinks we're nearing the end of the pandemic because of a medical breakthrough.

00:30:44.120 That is very significant. Listen to this. You pointed out that not a single patient of yours,

00:30:50.480 COVID patient, uh, that has been on the hydroxy regimen has had to be intubated for people who

00:30:58.360 don't know what intubated means. Please explain quickly. Yeah. So, uh, intubated means your

00:31:04.360 respiratory failure and you have to be put on a ventilator. Intubation means actually putting

00:31:08.840 the tube down into your trachea and then you're placed on a ventilator for support,

00:31:12.680 respiratory support. We've had, uh, I mentioned the 20 intubations over most all of them

00:31:18.940 occurred in the first two days. More importantly, no person has received five days or more of the

00:31:24.400 hydroxychloroquine and zithro combination has been intubated.

00:31:28.820 The chance of that occurring by chance, according to my sons, Leon and Hunter, who did some stats for me,

00:31:33.600 are 0.000 or something. It's, it's ridiculously low depending on how you look at it.

00:31:40.920 It's ridiculously low no matter how you look at it. Laura, I think this is the beginning of the end

00:31:45.120 of the pandemic. I'm very serious. Oh, wow. This is unbelievable.

00:31:51.480 A little light at the end of the, on the end of the tunnel there, maybe perhaps.

00:31:54.340 Let's move on to your daily cancellation. Today we're canceling snitches, all the snitches. 0.99

00:31:58.480 America has turned into a nation of snitches. Many local news outlets around the country have

00:32:03.600 articles like this one in WUSA 9's website pertaining to the DC, Maryland, Virginia area.

00:32:09.220 The headline is who to call if you spot someone not complying with the stay at home orders in the DMV.

00:32:16.000 DC, Maryland, Virginia. And then it continues prior to the new stay at home orders announced across the

00:32:20.860 DMV today, Maryland state police tweeted that they've already received 378 calls reporting

00:32:25.700 businesses or individuals not in compliance with the governor's previous executive order.

00:32:29.840 They also confirmed two arrests have been made, one in Charles County and another in Carroll County.

00:32:34.480 And then it says, um, it goes on and it says that among the people reported by their neighbors

00:32:40.280 and arrested was a man who had a barbecue. And then it gives the potential penalties. It says in DC,

00:32:47.100 if you're convicted of, of defying these orders, you could face 90 days in prison,

00:32:52.380 a $5,000 fine in Maryland, one year in prison and a $5,000 fine. And then Virginia,

00:32:57.280 one year in prison and a $2,500 fine. Also an article in the AP, residents snitch on businesses,

00:33:03.980 neighbors amid shutdowns. And, uh, give some examples in Nagatuck, Connecticut, resident Gwen

00:33:12.700 Becker said she was mortified when she drove by a golf course and saw a crowd gathered around a food

00:33:18.320 truck and eating at tables together. So she took a video that her friend posted on Facebook,

00:33:23.280 prompting the mayor to shut down the course. And then other, other examples of that. And some,

00:33:29.960 some States have made snitching pretty easy. This is a form. I want to show you this.

00:33:34.060 Apparently a form is a screenshot. Somebody sent to me and it looks like it's been taken down since

00:33:39.460 then, maybe because of the public outcry. But here's something from the Idaho state government,

00:33:44.460 and a stay at home compliance form. And you can see how they made it really easy to just put in

00:33:51.180 the name of the business you want to snitch on. And it's a very easy, very easy process.

00:33:57.140 And there's a bunch of other videos. I wouldn't even play them, but a bunch of other videos of,

00:34:00.680 of people being confronted for not following the stay at home orders and neighbors threatening to

00:34:07.540 call the cops and everything else. Listen, I know people are scared. I know they think they're doing

00:34:12.760 the right thing and being a hero by calling the cops, but I can tell you this, there is no disease.

00:34:19.800 There is no pandemic that would ever turn me into the kind of person who calls the cops on my neighbors

00:34:24.660 for having a barbecue. Uh, I don't care if it's an actual apocalypse. I, there are some things that

00:34:31.980 are not worth it to become the sort of Americans turning your fellow citizens into the authorities

00:34:37.720 for being outside. I'm sorry. That is, it's, it's not worth whatever few ounces of safety you think

00:34:46.240 you've purchased for yourself. In fact, I was at a park a few days ago and I saw a few people playing

00:34:52.500 basketball, which probably they're not supposed to be doing. Am I going to report that to the police?

00:34:57.220 Hell no. You know what I'm going to do? I don't mind my own business. They're not hurting me. And

00:35:02.220 for all I know, they could be family members. And what's the big deal? I mean, they're going to be

00:35:06.260 together in their house or at a basketball court. Who cares? What's the difference really?

00:35:13.260 I'm simply not going to be the kind of person who calls the police and says, yeah, there was three

00:35:19.180 people peacefully playing basketball at a, uh, you know, a public, public hoop, many, many feet away

00:35:28.540 from the nearest other person. That's not worth it. Giving up your dignity, not worth it.

00:35:35.600 Giving up your liberty completely and embracing an authoritarian state as we have done is not worth it.

00:35:41.400 Giving up the entire economy and embracing an economic crash that destroys millions of lives.

00:35:47.300 That's not worth it. Lots of things are worth it to stem the spread of a, of a dangerous disease.

00:35:53.140 There are lots of measures that are worth it, but these are just some things that are not worth it.

00:36:00.940 And that's regardless of the threat. We're getting to this place now where it's believed basically that

00:36:08.620 it's okay to do anything, anything at all to stop people from dying from this disease,

00:36:14.160 from this disease would do anything at all to stop people from dying from this,

00:36:19.320 from this particular thing. But in saner times when everybody isn't scared, we realize that the

00:36:27.480 whole point of not being a coward, the whole point of being an American who values higher things than

00:36:33.900 safety is that you don't treat death as the ultimate, absolute worst thing that must be avoided

00:36:40.000 at any and all costs. It's a bad thing that we tried to avoid, but not at any and all costs.

00:36:47.100 There are costs that are too high to pay. From the arguments people are making now,

00:36:51.760 it seems like they're saying there is no cost too high to pay. We will do anything at all.

00:36:56.680 But again, in more rational times, when we're past all of this, whenever that happens,

00:37:04.900 people are going to look back and I don't think everyone's going to be very proud of the way that

00:37:12.180 they acted. And those Americans who are peering out their window, calling up the cops, snitching on

00:37:20.220 their neighbors because they see them outside for an unapproved reason, are they going to feel proud of it?

00:37:24.720 I know right now they feel like they're okay because they're scared.

00:37:30.920 So all the snitches are canceled altogether. Finally, let's go to some emails. Let's see here.

00:37:39.160 This is from Michael says, hello, Matt, serious question. Do you think this is the end of the

00:37:42.340 United States and will Americans have to utilize the second amendment this year? I am sure millions,

00:37:50.120 if not tens of millions of people have that in the back of their mind. Thanks, love the show.

00:37:53.020 Well, what do you mean the end of the United States? I certainly think something called the

00:37:57.560 United States will continue to exist after this. And in many ways, it will probably look a lot like

00:38:03.080 it does now. But I do think that in the midst of this unprecedented government power grab and the

00:38:07.640 surrender of a scared populace, that we are losing things that we'll probably never get back and that

00:38:12.860 America is being reshaped as we speak into a more authoritarian state, into a place where small

00:38:19.240 businesses are increasingly going extinct. A small handful of corporations are taking over. Yes, I

00:38:28.060 think that that's what we're looking at. And you might say, as I said, you might say that we were on

00:38:33.000 the way to that already, which is probably true, but we're going to get there a lot sooner now, I believe.

00:38:40.300 Let's see. Is there anything else here?

00:38:47.360 This is from No Name Given, but it says, it's easy to complain, Matt, but what is your solution,

00:38:52.660 really? Would you actually let churches gather right now? Do you think that's the right course?

00:38:56.980 Do you actually think churches should be getting together with mass groups of people in a pandemic?

00:39:01.460 This is just the same point I've responded to a million times. As far as my actual, yes,

00:39:05.720 I have given what I consider to be my, maybe not a solution. I don't know. I don't have a solution.

00:39:10.160 Nobody has a solution. Nobody has a switch you can flip and make everything better. That doesn't

00:39:13.780 exist. So I don't have that. But I do have, I have proposed many, I'm not even going to repeat

00:39:17.400 myself. I've said it so many times, what I think, what we could do instead, rather than destroying the

00:39:22.320 economy, there are other things we could do, while also taking into account the pandemic and taking it

00:39:27.080 very seriously and trying as much as we can to stop the spread without destroying the economy. There are

00:39:31.160 steps we could take. I've suggested some of those steps. So you just go back and read what I've

00:39:35.200 written or listened to other shows and you can find it. Do I think the churches should gather

00:39:40.000 right now? Many churches probably should not, especially if you're in a place like New York

00:39:48.420 or a big urban area, you probably shouldn't be. But not every place is New York. I think there are

00:39:55.860 places in America that are not nearly as hard hit, where there are very few confirmed cases. And of

00:40:01.520 course, there could be cases that are not confirmed. Probably there's going to be a greater

00:40:05.080 percentage of cases that are not confirmed. But there are places in America that are relatively

00:40:09.720 remote, that are further away, set back, and don't have the same level of a problem. And do I think

00:40:20.200 that they'd be okay to meet for church? Probably. As long as you're taking precautions and you're being

00:40:26.660 smart about it, I'm not telling people that they should go run out and have a church. It's not for

00:40:32.580 me to decide. But that's beside the point. What I'm saying, whether or not that's a good idea, I think

00:40:40.320 that's situational. It depends on the situation that you're in. Depends on where you live, what the

00:40:44.920 situation is. I think we have to stop looking for a one-size-fits-all approach. The idea that the

00:40:51.480 problem is exactly the same everywhere in the country, and so that we should treat it the same 0.97

00:40:56.200 everywhere in the country, is crazy. It doesn't make any sense. But regardless, it's not about what

00:41:04.600 I think churches should do. What I'm saying is we should not be a country where the government shuts

00:41:14.160 churches by force and arrest pastors for holding church services. Even if the pastor is in a

00:41:22.540 situation, even if the church is somewhere where probably they shouldn't be meeting, then we can

00:41:27.700 ask them not to meet. We can apply some social pressure. We can encourage people. Just like there

00:41:36.740 were so many churches before all of this, before the government started forcing the issue, there were

00:41:42.020 many churches, hundreds, probably most across the country, that had already chosen to stop services

00:41:48.420 for the time being. On their own, they made that decision. Fine. Great. Free decision by free people.

00:41:57.680 But I simply don't think we have become this kind of country, but we should not have become the kind

00:42:03.200 of country where we shut churches by force and arrest pastors. Period. I don't think that could ever be

00:42:08.440 worth it. I don't think that's something we should ever do in this country.

00:42:12.020 And like I said, there will come a time in the not so distant future when everybody will pretend to

00:42:22.900 agree with that sentiment. When people will start saying things like, you know, give me liberty, give

00:42:27.820 me death. You don't want to trade liberty for safety. Those sorts of slogans. Everybody loves those

00:42:32.040 slogans, loves the idea, loves the sentiment. Until the rubber meets the road. Or that you know what

00:42:40.280 hits the fan. So I guess we have to decide. Those slogans, those things that we pretend to live

00:42:47.400 by as Americans, do they really mean anything at all? Or are we just, is that just a lie we tell

00:42:52.340 ourselves? I think that's what we have to try to figure that out. We'll leave it there. Thanks

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00:43:44.780 that's just one of the practical challenges that comes with shutting down the global economy.

00:43:48.500 Fortunately, socialist Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez has the solution, if you can

00:43:54.460 figure out what she's saying. Then, speaking of not speaking well, Joe Biden proposes postponing

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The Matt Walsh Show - April 02, 2020

Ep. 458 - Full Scale Economic Collapse

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