The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 459 - Presidents Birx And Fauci

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, Dr. Fauci has seemed to imply that the president should enact a national

00:00:04.960 stay-at-home order, which of course would be wildly unconstitutional, not to mention redundant

00:00:09.660 and useless. Meanwhile, Dr. Birx is lecturing Americans for failing to follow her instructions

00:00:15.080 precisely, blaming us because the curve isn't flattening like she thought that it would.

00:00:20.480 Are we giving too much power and perhaps too much trust to the medical experts in government and

00:00:25.780 maybe the government in general? We'll talk about that. Also, five headlines, including

00:00:29.060 new recommendations that we socially distance from our own families at home. And today I have

00:00:35.180 the distinct honor and privilege of canceling Mayor Bill de Blasio. Much deserved. We'll get to all of

00:00:39.820 that coming up. Let's start with this. Presidents Birx and Fauci, who seem to be in many ways basically

00:00:47.280 the presidents now, were on TV yesterday, of course, and they're on TV every day, all day pretty much.

00:00:52.280 And there were a couple of moments with these two that I want to go back and review. First,

00:00:59.300 let's look at Dr. Fauci on CNN, seeming to indicate that he would support a national stay-at-home order

00:01:06.240 from the president for the entire country. And he doesn't say that exactly, but he really seems to be

00:01:14.920 implying it. Listen to this.

00:01:16.480 Dr. Fauci, you want to get to your question in just a moment. First, knowing the science,

00:01:20.340 does it make sense to you that some states are still not issuing stay-at-home orders? I mean,

00:01:26.020 whether there should be a federally mandated directive for that or not, I guess that's more

00:01:30.920 of a political question. But just scientifically, doesn't everybody have to be on the same page

00:01:36.800 with this stuff?

00:01:38.520 Yeah. I think so, Anderson. I don't understand why that's not happening. As you said,

00:01:43.660 you know, the tension between federally mandated versus states' rights to do what they want

00:01:48.420 is something I don't want to get into. But if you look at what's going on in this country,

00:01:52.560 I just don't understand why we're not doing that. We really should be.

00:01:56.240 So he says he doesn't want to get into the tension between states' rights and the federal government

00:02:01.620 and all of that. Well, yeah, he's a doctor, not a constitutional scholar, also not an economist.

00:02:07.860 He has an expertise in one area. Unfortunately, there are many more areas that are being implicated

00:02:13.520 in everything that's going on right now. This is not just a medical situation. There's also an

00:02:22.000 economic aspect of it. There's a legal aspect of it, which is why I think it's a problem when

00:02:28.880 doctors are allowed to set the policy, set the course, and decide everything. They get to decide

00:02:36.040 everything that we do. But they only know about one thing. Now, I've said from the very beginning

00:02:42.440 that when it comes to the medical scientific questions, we have no choice but to go to the

00:02:47.940 people who have expertise in that area. I don't know much about viruses or diseases. Most of us

00:02:53.200 don't. And so you have to go to sources. Now, that doesn't mean that you implicitly trust

00:02:57.000 just one person because they happen to be on TV all the time. But you look at a collection of

00:03:04.880 different sources, and that's where you go. But that's for just that part of the problem.

00:03:11.340 As I said, there are many other parts, very important parts. And we're not going to go to

00:03:15.500 the doctors to tell us about that. They don't necessarily know anything about all the other

00:03:20.520 relevant factors. So as far as the doctors are concerned, sure, destroy the economy, destroy

00:03:26.900 everybody's lives if you have to. Fauci says that it's just an inconvenience. That's what he said

00:03:31.080 yesterday. It's an economic inconvenience. He said that on the day when it was announced that

00:03:36.380 there were 6 million unemployed people officially put on the rolls last week, totaling up to 10 in

00:03:40.720 two weeks, 10 million. And he writes that off as an inconvenience. According to his medical opinion,

00:03:47.800 destroying the livelihoods of tens of millions of Americans is an inconvenience. And it seems he also

00:03:52.360 thinks that the president acting in a blatantly unconstitutional way and assuming the dictatorial

00:03:57.440 power to lock 330 million Americans in their home is something that perhaps should happen. And I'm

00:04:03.840 sure he would call that just at most a constitutional inconvenience from his medical point of view.

00:04:11.660 But again, that's not a medical question. His medical point of view is irrelevant to the

00:04:17.380 constitutional question. It's irrelevant to the economic question. Yet he's asked about these areas

00:04:23.440 anyway, and he has no problem pontificating. Meanwhile, here's Dr. Birx at the White House

00:04:28.620 presser yesterday, and she is very upset with all of you for screwing things up. Listen to this.

00:04:36.160 I know you've seen the slope in the United States versus the slope in Italy. And we have to change that

00:04:44.280 slope. We have to change the logarithmic curve that we're on. We see country after country having done

00:04:52.080 that. What it means in the United States is not everyone is doing it. So we're only as strong

00:04:59.820 as every community, every county, every state, every American following the guidelines to a T.

00:05:08.460 And I can tell by the curve, and as it is today, that not every American is following it. And so this

00:05:16.520 is really a call to action. We see Spain, we see Italy, we see France, we see Germany, when we see

00:05:24.920 others beginning to bend their curves, we can bend ours. But it means everybody has to take that same

00:05:31.800 responsibility as Americans.

00:05:33.820 You naughty Americans, you naughty, naughty, this is all your fault. You know, the curve isn't flattening,

00:05:39.600 and it's your fault, says Dr. Birx, in her nightly lecture. You see, if the curve doesn't

00:05:45.820 flatten, it couldn't possibly be because the strategy that she has suggested is wrong, right?

00:05:54.560 Now, that can't be it. That can't be it. The strategy can't be ineffective. And it can't be

00:05:59.860 that the models that they're using might be wrong, built on faulty assumptions, using bad data. That

00:06:05.900 can't be it. No, no, never that, never that. You see, it's you. You're the problem. You're the

00:06:10.420 naughty child. You dumb peon. You're the problem. You're screwing it up. Not the bureaucrats, okay?

00:06:16.840 It's all you. It's always going to be you. Because understand this, the people in charge,

00:06:23.900 the people doing all of this, calling the shots, they will never, ever, ever, ever,

00:06:29.160 ever accept blame for anything ever. Nothing will ever be their fault. They're not going to stand

00:06:35.780 up there and say, we got this wrong. We apologize. It's not going to happen. No matter how at fault

00:06:41.040 they are, they won't accept it. They're always going to shift the blame to you and me and us.

00:06:46.220 And it works because they've got Americans sniping at each other, calling the cops on their own

00:06:51.360 neighbors for being outside for the wrong reason, screaming at each other, while the politicians

00:06:58.080 and bureaucrats whose incompetence caused this mess escape without blame. They get to the point

00:07:04.600 the finger over at the rabble, the mob, and say, it's all them. Look at them.

00:07:12.400 Listen, Berks and Fauci seem like nice people. I'm sure they're very smart in their fields of

00:07:17.520 expertise. I'm sure they know much more than I do in those areas. So we should certainly go to them

00:07:24.020 for advice and insight into the virus itself and how it behaves. Again, we shouldn't, even on that

00:07:32.500 subject, we shouldn't appoint them as the official single authorities.

00:07:42.320 But there are two big problems, as far as I can tell, with what we're doing right now and how we're

00:07:48.180 approaching this and how we're utilizing these experts. Number one, like we've already covered,

00:07:56.780 these people know nothing about the economic and constitutional implications of the policies

00:08:01.340 they recommend. And they made it clear that those implications are irrelevant, not important,

00:08:06.920 mere inconveniences. In their minds, this is all a matter of avoiding risk, medical risk specifically,

00:08:12.700 and preventing the most number of people from dying from the virus right now. That's what they're

00:08:18.180 trying to do. They don't want you to die from the virus right now. Now, if people die from other

00:08:25.620 things brought on by a great depression, that's not their concern. If people die because they can't

00:08:35.240 get basic food and shelter because they can't afford it, or they die from suicide or drug overdoses

00:08:39.760 because they've been locked down and they're losing all their livelihood and they're falling

00:08:43.000 into despair, the doctors aren't concerned about that. They're not focused on stopping those deaths.

00:08:49.860 And if the virus comes back later and ravages our society once we open things up again and we're

00:08:54.780 all impoverished, and it comes back again in the middle of a depression, so now we have a pandemic

00:08:59.040 and a depression on our hands, well, that's not so much their concern either. Their goal is to stop

00:09:04.860 people from dying from this right now. And the general suffering and misery and loss of liberty

00:09:11.820 and destruction of our way of life, none of that is their concern. Because this is not, by the way,

00:09:15.560 this is not just, we focus so much on the deaths. How do we save the most number of people? It's not

00:09:20.660 just that. There are other things too, right? Suffering and misery and destroying someone's business,

00:09:30.320 taking away everything they've worked for. That might not be a death, a physical death,

00:09:34.660 but it's still very important. But the question is, why are we letting them essentially set the

00:09:42.860 policy, set the course, steer the whole ship when they're only looking at this one narrow aspect of

00:09:47.860 the overall crisis? Why do we have them on TV every single day telling us what to do, delivering

00:09:53.920 lectures, making decrees, and not other experts? Why can't we hear from an economic expert

00:09:58.920 to give us projections on what's going to happen with this Great Depression that's coming up?

00:10:04.300 Why can't we hear from a constitutional law expert? As far as Fauci is concerned, it's becoming clear

00:10:11.020 that from his perspective, we should stay locked in our homes under house arrest until there's a

00:10:15.060 vaccine. Because that's how to prevent the most people from dying of the disease, maybe. Now,

00:10:20.700 it's also how you utterly annihilate our civilization and ruin every single thing that makes this country

00:10:26.000 great, makes this country what it is or was. Fauci would throw all of that on the burn pile if it was

00:10:31.420 up to him. But it shouldn't be up to him because he's not the president. And it shouldn't even be up to

00:10:36.180 the president because the president is a president and not a dictator. Second thing, second issue I have

00:10:42.200 with the medical experts in the government, extending beyond Fauci and Birx. This isn't just about them.

00:10:47.960 It's also not just about the medical experts. I mean, politicians, bureaucrats in general,

00:10:51.760 all these people, the government generally, my issue here is that they're putting it all on us,

00:10:58.800 blaming us, lecturing us, telling us that we have to give up our jobs, our liberty, our income.

00:11:03.900 They're not giving up any of these things, by the way. They still have a job. They still have an

00:11:06.680 income. They have all the freedom in the world. In fact, they have more freedom. They have more

00:11:10.000 power. So they're giving nothing up. We give up the power, income, job, everything, lifestyle.

00:11:13.620 We give that up. They give up nothing. Let's be clear about that. These people who are on TV,

00:11:18.140 the people in government, they're giving up nothing. It's all on us. When they talk about

00:11:23.060 shared sacrifice, no, no, no. We're the ones making the sacrifice. Now, the actual doctors

00:11:28.200 and surgeons that are in the hospitals, they're making a huge sacrifice, of course. But the

00:11:32.140 politicians and bureaucrats, they're not sacrificing anything. They're fine. Their job is secure.

00:11:38.740 Everything is secure for them. You know what I haven't seen from any of these people?

00:11:43.980 Accountability. Responsibility. We're supposed to trust them implicitly. Do everything they

00:11:52.080 say. Even though they screwed up. They screwed up majorly, repeatedly, catastrophically. And

00:11:59.920 now they're destroying the economy and our lives to cover their own asses. All this destruction

00:12:06.340 in the economy, it is a CYA, cover your ass move, by the government. And we don't even get

00:12:11.800 so much as an apology from them. Not even so much as that. Like, hey, gee, sorry.

00:12:18.220 Think about this. From December to February, while coronavirus was taking hold in China,

00:12:23.720 over 700,000 travelers from China entered this country. I want to say that again. From December

00:12:33.300 to February, 700,000 travelers from China were allowed to enter this country. The very government

00:12:41.280 officials who let 700,000 travelers from China into this country now want you to know that the curve

00:12:46.920 isn't flattening and it's your fault. And also trust everything they say, of course. They were too

00:12:54.140 stupid to prevent three quarters of a million of people from China from coming into this country.

00:12:59.620 But trust them now. They know what's up. You don't. Don't trust yourself, right? You can't

00:13:05.860 trust yourself. That's why we have to shut down the whole economy. Because when I have suggested so

00:13:10.760 many times, and so many others have suggested, other ways that we could deal with this, you know,

00:13:15.900 still have the economy going, but quarantine the elderly, the sick. Practice, practice, still practice

00:13:21.360 a version of social distancing. Good hygiene, wash your hands, wear a mask, even a homemade mask,

00:13:26.700 wear appropriate. And what I'm told about that is, you know, we can't do that because we can't trust

00:13:32.060 people. People are stupid. They won't follow it. They won't follow those rules. Okay. So we can't

00:13:38.520 trust ourselves. We can't trust our neighbor. We can trust these people. We can trust these people

00:13:44.120 we see on TV every night, the government officials. We can trust them. Do you trust them more than you

00:13:49.180 trust yourself? Do you trust their models and projections more than you trust your own common sense? I

00:13:54.480 don't. Also consider this, as recently as a month ago, the government was telling us, don't wear

00:14:00.880 masks. Don't wear them. The Surgeon General sent out a snarky tweet, okay, not that long ago, saying,

00:14:08.760 seriously, people, don't wear masks. In all caps, stop wearing masks. It's not effective. Shouting at us,

00:14:15.820 belittling us. You morons, stop wearing masks. Well, it turns out masks are effective. We should have

00:14:24.300 been wearing them, and they knew it. It doesn't have to be, and, you know, we don't have to say,

00:14:29.980 well, you know, we can't wear medical masks because then we're taking them away from

00:14:33.540 the medical professionals who need it. Yeah, homemade masks. Put a scarf over your face. It's

00:14:37.440 better than nothing. It's a lot better than nothing. They knew that, okay, and they lied to us

00:14:43.460 for our own good, of course, for our own good. Because, you know why they lied to us? Because they

00:14:47.960 couldn't trust us. Because if they said, yeah, you know what, masks actually probably will help you

00:14:52.560 not get sick. Then they were worried we would all run out and start hoarding medical masks.

00:14:57.320 Now, they can't trust us, so they're going to lie to us. Again, I ask, can we trust them?

00:15:03.160 Well, we can't trust ourselves at all, apparently. We're a bunch of idiots. Can we trust them?

00:15:09.660 Because that's the problem. If you endorse the idea of the government lying to us

00:15:14.240 because we can't be trusted, what you're saying is we can definitely trust them 100%.

00:15:19.000 We can trust them so much that they can withhold the truth from us or lie about it.

00:15:24.340 And we can just trust their judgment on what truth we need to hear or should hear.

00:15:31.760 How many people died because of those lies?

00:15:34.820 But now, shut down the economy, give up your job on their word at their command.

00:15:38.940 And the models they're using, the models have changed time and again, have been proven false,

00:15:43.820 have been based on bad data, bad assumptions. So they come up with new models.

00:15:49.000 Never taking any responsibility for the old models failing.

00:15:54.000 They say when we hear about there not being enough masks, enough ventilators, enough hospital beds.

00:16:00.580 Well, whose fault is that? Whose fault is that? It's not my fault. It's not your fault.

00:16:09.020 We're not responsible for there not being enough medical masks. What were we supposed to do about that?

00:16:12.900 It's not even China's fault. We pay people in government to take care of these things. And they failed.

00:16:19.860 Of course, every single individual government official that's asked about this, it's not my fault.

00:16:24.300 No, no, no, no, no, no, it's not my fault. Look at them over there. Not us.

00:16:28.900 In fact, you know what? It's all the dumb Americans who are buying all the medical masks when they don't need them.

00:16:32.500 Well, in fact, it turns out they do need them. In fact, many of the medical experts now given godlike powers to reshape society in their image,

00:16:42.280 these are the same people who are supposed to have us prepared for this and failed.

00:16:46.960 But rather than be held responsible, rather than be tarred and feathered in the street like we probably used to,

00:16:52.900 like we would have handled it in the old days, they get more power.

00:16:56.480 They get rewarded with more power for being incompetent. See, that's what happens in government now.

00:17:03.000 They fail, they're incompetent, they screw up, and the reward is more power for them.

00:17:08.500 And so many of us go along with it by turning to each other and blaming each other.

00:17:15.680 Tucker Carlson, I mean, even the stuff like with the toilet paper,

00:17:20.020 all of this snarky sniping that we did about people hoarding toilet paper.

00:17:26.860 First of all, once the run on toilet paper had started,

00:17:31.980 it made a lot of sense to go out and get toilet paper because you need it.

00:17:36.100 I mean, the thing is, I've been to the store several times and several different stores

00:17:39.500 over the course of this quarantine for things that I need.

00:17:43.320 I haven't seen toilet paper anywhere.

00:17:44.860 Now, as it happens, we did stock up on toilet paper, not in a panicked way,

00:17:49.700 but if we hadn't, we wouldn't have any right now.

00:17:52.720 You know, I got a family of six.

00:17:54.140 We need toilet paper now.

00:17:56.620 So we all look at each other and like laugh at each other.

00:17:58.780 What are you doing buying toilet paper?

00:17:59.880 Well, because I need it, you moron.

00:18:01.480 What do you think?

00:18:03.060 I need it and it's nowhere to be found.

00:18:05.520 But yet again, I put that on the government.

00:18:08.280 They should have had us better prepared.

00:18:11.460 They should have, you know, rather than say,

00:18:13.180 because here's what the government did.

00:18:15.020 The government went from, this is nothing, this is nothing, this is nothing, don't worry about it,

00:18:19.940 to all of a sudden, it's the end of the world.

00:18:22.020 Like there was a sudden change.

00:18:23.920 And with that sudden change, people panicked and they started running out and buying things.

00:18:29.600 Now, if the government had been honest and on top of this since like December

00:18:33.940 and it started saying, you know, here's what's going on.

00:18:36.940 It is, it's a concern.

00:18:38.660 It's not the end of the world, but we're going to start taking measures.

00:18:40.840 There would have been a gradual thing, a gradual awareness that would have been raised among the people

00:18:44.820 and things would be very different right now.

00:18:48.060 Tucker Carlson made this point on his show yesterday.

00:18:49.760 I think it's a good point.

00:18:51.980 If two months ago, three months ago, if we had started quarantining the nursing homes,

00:18:57.380 the elderly, the sick, had people wearing masks, even homemade ones,

00:19:02.040 there would be far fewer dead by now.

00:19:05.740 We would still have an economy.

00:19:07.440 We wouldn't have 10 million jobs lost in two weeks.

00:19:11.400 The medical experts who should have been recommending those steps back then didn't.

00:19:16.600 Instead, they were saying, don't wear masks.

00:19:19.040 Don't worry about the virus.

00:19:20.240 It's not a threat.

00:19:22.140 They were wrong.

00:19:23.380 They were catastrophically wrong.

00:19:24.960 And now they get to shut down society and take your job and your livelihood and your home

00:19:29.580 and your food out of your fridge to cover their tracks.

00:19:34.200 And if all this doesn't work, if it backfires, which it will, it already is,

00:19:38.920 it's still not going to be their fault.

00:19:41.960 Never theirs.

00:19:43.720 Never, ever theirs.

00:19:46.500 Let's move to headlines.

00:19:47.480 Number one, the governor of New Jersey, in an effort to one-up the other governors around him,

00:19:53.040 has made a rather striking suggestion.

00:19:55.480 Listen.

00:19:56.300 If you do not need to be out, then we need you to stay at home.

00:20:00.600 Please, God, stay at home.

00:20:03.600 And even when you're at home, keep your distance between yourself and other family members.

00:20:08.700 What was that?

00:20:10.580 You want us to socially distance from each other at home?

00:20:14.940 You see, there's a competition going on here, don't you?

00:20:18.740 Each governor tries to be the one taking it the most seriously.

00:20:22.060 So we go from shutdowns to Northam locking down the whole state for two months to now New Jersey

00:20:28.160 saying, oh, yeah, well, we're locking down the state and we're going to say you can't go near

00:20:32.140 your own family.

00:20:34.000 It is good advice, though, because, in fact, kids don't respect personal space at all.

00:20:40.540 And so I've had to call the police on my kids four times today already to report them for

00:20:46.880 infringing on my personal space, on my protective bubble.

00:20:50.700 It's all about being a good citizen.

00:20:52.560 But fortunately, I can say my three-year-old was given just a $5,000 fine, which, you know,

00:20:58.860 not a big deal.

00:20:59.560 It would only take them a few decades of allowance to be able to pay that, though my six-year-old

00:21:04.760 twins are facing 60 days in jail.

00:21:06.320 So that's, you know, that's unfortunate.

00:21:09.480 But this is what happens.

00:21:12.500 Number two, and the competition, of course, continues with now Vermont throwing its hat

00:21:17.080 into the ring.

00:21:17.660 Vermont is ordering retailers, essential retailers, quote unquote, in the state to stop selling

00:21:22.700 non-essential items.

00:21:24.260 So Vermont is going to tell you what you're allowed to sell.

00:21:26.840 And reading from WCVB.com, according to the state, large retailers must cease in-person

00:21:32.180 sales of items that include, but are not limited to, arts and crafts, beauty supplies, carpet

00:21:36.860 and flooring, clothing, consumer electronics, entertainment, furniture, home and garden, jewelry,

00:21:41.000 paint, photo services, sports equipment, toys.

00:21:44.380 The state says that, the continuous, it says, the state says stores must restrict access to

00:21:50.800 non-essential goods by closing aisles, closing portions of the store, or removing items from

00:21:57.080 the floor.

00:21:58.300 The order says, showrooms and garden sections of large home improvement centers should be

00:22:02.500 closed.

00:22:03.160 Okay.

00:22:04.180 Maybe at this point, the government should just come up with an official list, an official

00:22:07.880 shopping list for us.

00:22:09.040 Maybe they can assign, maybe the government can assign us all a shopping list every week,

00:22:13.680 telling us what to buy, right down to the specific food items and brands and everything.

00:22:18.960 So I need it to be really specific.

00:22:20.480 Like, tell me exactly what type of canned pasta sauce I can buy.

00:22:25.020 What are the non-essential pasta sauces versus the essential ones?

00:22:29.360 That's what I want to know.

00:22:30.660 We can't have people going out and buying non-essential ragu.

00:22:34.260 Okay.

00:22:35.000 And which soda brand is essential?

00:22:37.760 Obviously, you know, it's like a 7-Up versus Sprite.

00:22:40.720 Sprite's going to be essential, not 7-Up.

00:22:43.920 Coke or Pepsi, which is the essential one?

00:22:46.380 And that's a real controversy.

00:22:47.900 But you would think this is a matter of opinion.

00:22:50.220 Just like you would think a lot of these essential versus non-essential designations

00:22:55.780 are a matter of opinion, and they are, but the government's opinion is what matters.

00:23:00.140 Trust whatever they say.

00:23:02.020 Basically, the goal here is to remove all personal choice from individuals.

00:23:05.080 Because we're too stupid and we're too incompetent.

00:23:07.100 We need the guiding hand of government to come in and direct every last aspect of our lives.

00:23:12.660 Now, of course, people in government are dumber and even less competent than we are,

00:23:16.160 but that's fine because they're in the government, so they know best.

00:23:19.900 Number three, this is very interesting.

00:23:21.640 Professor Bakhti, a microbiologist, has written an open letter to the Chancellor of Germany,

00:23:28.460 but really it could have been written to any Western world leader.

00:23:31.700 And he has a number of questions about the coronavirus that he's asking,

00:23:36.280 raising several interesting points.

00:23:38.860 And it's worth reading the whole thing.

00:23:39.980 Go to dailywire.com.

00:23:41.620 They've got an article about it.

00:23:42.500 It's worth reading the whole thing.

00:23:43.180 But let me read this particular section of his letter.

00:23:48.000 He says,

00:23:48.380 The mistake is being made worldwide to report virus-related deaths

00:23:53.040 as soon as it is established that the virus was present at the time of death,

00:23:57.280 regardless of other factors.

00:23:59.680 This violates the principles of only when it is certain that an agent has played a significant role

00:24:05.000 in the disease or death may a diagnosis be made.

00:24:07.660 The Association of the Scientific Medical Societies of Germany expressly writes in its guidelines,

00:24:12.240 In addition to the cause of death, a causal chain must be stated

00:24:15.740 with the corresponding underlying disease in third place on the death certificate.

00:24:20.020 Occasionally, four linked causal chains must also be stated.

00:24:23.260 At present, there is no official information on whether, at least in retrospect,

00:24:27.140 more critical analyses of medical records have been undertaken to determine

00:24:30.220 how many deaths were actually caused by the virus.

00:24:33.380 Okay.

00:24:34.380 What are you saying here?

00:24:35.240 The point is, we know so many of these deaths are attributed to the virus among previously ill people.

00:24:41.340 We keep hearing that.

00:24:42.380 You know, people in their 80s and 90s dying.

00:24:44.040 People who have pre-existing conditions dying.

00:24:46.480 Okay.

00:24:46.660 Well, if somebody with the virus and terminal cancer, for example, dies,

00:24:53.700 do we call that a virus death or a cancer death?

00:24:59.120 Because my understanding, and I don't know the answer to this question,

00:25:02.540 but my understanding of it, at least in normal times,

00:25:06.100 if somebody has terminal cancer and they, let's say, contract pneumonia and die,

00:25:13.120 what we usually will say is they succumb to cancer or they lost the battle with cancer or something like that.

00:25:19.120 You know, when someone with terminal cancer eventually dies of something related to the fact that they had cancer,

00:25:26.120 we don't usually, we wouldn't say he died of pneumonia.

00:25:28.720 We would just say he died of cancer.

00:25:31.860 So what are we doing here?

00:25:33.200 If someone dies and the cause isn't clear, but they have the virus,

00:25:39.840 do we automatically assume they died of it?

00:25:42.320 Is dying with the virus the same as dying from it as far as the way it's categorized?

00:25:47.640 It's a good question.

00:25:48.440 In fact, I saw a really tragic, terrible headline.

00:25:53.040 Maybe you saw this of, I think it was a six-week-old baby who died.

00:25:58.920 Just horrifying.

00:26:01.560 But the headlines that I saw, I looked at several headlines and several news articles

00:26:05.160 because I was trying to figure this out, right?

00:26:07.000 And the headline said, baby with coronavirus dies,

00:26:10.920 or baby discovered to have coronavirus dies, like something like that.

00:26:17.060 Baby's death linked to coronavirus.

00:26:20.060 Like those are the headlines.

00:26:21.560 That's very strange, isn't it?

00:26:23.520 It's just a strange way of putting it.

00:26:26.080 And I read about five or six different articles about this particular case.

00:26:28.940 And I'm trying to find out, did they do an autopsy and that with the results came back

00:26:34.460 and they found that the coronavirus was the cause of the death?

00:26:37.720 Maybe.

00:26:38.640 Like, I don't know.

00:26:39.560 But it seems that for right now, as far as we know, the baby had coronavirus and tragically died.

00:26:46.200 But you put it in the headlines with the assumption that the baby died from coronavirus.

00:26:52.320 And this is not a small thing.

00:26:55.740 Okay?

00:26:56.320 And the problem is that when someone like myself tries to make this point,

00:26:59.420 we're accused of being cruel or heartless or what have you.

00:27:03.840 That's the opposite of the case.

00:27:05.620 What I'm saying is, in the media, it is malpractice to terrify people, to terrify mothers and fathers

00:27:14.440 who have babies, put that in the headlines without making sure that the virus is actually

00:27:19.920 what caused the death.

00:27:21.500 You're just terrifying people.

00:27:23.440 And you're doing it for clicks.

00:27:25.140 That's why.

00:27:25.540 It's not because you care about the child or you're concerned about it.

00:27:28.580 No.

00:27:29.660 You put it in the headlines, phrased that way.

00:27:32.400 Rather than the responsible thing is to wait to find out what caused the death and then

00:27:39.940 to report on it.

00:27:41.060 But you don't wait.

00:27:42.140 You put it up right away, not because you care about the child.

00:27:45.060 Far from it.

00:27:45.880 It's because you're exploiting the child's death to get clicks and to scare people.

00:27:50.040 And the reason you want to scare people is because it means more clicks and more attention

00:27:53.200 and more ratings.

00:27:55.140 Number four, different industries are finding ways to adapt to the new reality.

00:27:58.440 You'd think that one industry that would have trouble is the clubbing industry.

00:28:04.960 DJs who play in nightclubs specifically, what are they going to do?

00:28:07.960 Well, they're trying to adapt.

00:28:09.900 And so now we've got something called cloud clubbing, which means that DJs are doing their

00:28:15.080 thing, their DJ thing, playing music, and they'll stream it for people to listen to in their

00:28:21.360 homes.

00:28:21.860 So they're doing the DJ, then they're broadcasting it to people in their homes.

00:28:25.880 And we call that cloud clubbing.

00:28:27.560 Now, I read that and I think, okay, so you've invented the radio is what you've done.

00:28:33.100 This is the radio, right?

00:28:34.340 This is a DJ in one place.

00:28:36.640 You've invented music radio.

00:28:37.840 You've invented rock radio.

00:28:38.900 Congratulations.

00:28:39.580 It's a DJ in one place playing music that is broadcast to other people in other places.

00:28:45.140 That's basically what the radio does.

00:28:46.640 Different technology, but that's, I guess we could just call it cloud clubbing from now

00:28:50.620 on.

00:28:51.600 Anytime you turn on the radio, doing a little cloud clubbing.

00:28:53.840 Number five, finally, I want to show you this, a bit of a visual.

00:28:58.220 So if you're listening on iTunes right now or SoundCloud or whatever, you'll have to, when

00:29:01.940 you get a chance, go check out the stream of the show so you can look at this visual because

00:29:06.380 it really does lend perspective.

00:29:08.000 This is a graph, I should say, made by a guy on Twitter whose handle is at Startup Damon.

00:29:14.920 And it shows, it shows the weekly jobless claims starting in the sixties.

00:29:19.540 Well, let me, let me just, we'll, we'll play this.

00:29:22.420 All right.

00:29:22.840 So it starts late in the sixties, goes to the seventies.

00:29:24.600 You see the jobless claims weekly nineties goes up and down.

00:29:29.400 Like you would expect you have peaks.

00:29:30.720 And then we're going to see a big spike around 2010.

00:29:32.620 There we go with the recession.

00:29:33.560 And then now we get to now and look at that.

00:29:36.480 Okay.

00:29:36.700 Up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, up, keeps going, keeps going, keeps climbing.

00:29:48.220 And there it is.

00:29:49.020 There's, there's the last, that's the last couple of weeks of jobless claims.

00:29:53.420 That's what we've done.

00:29:55.800 This is what we've done in our country, but don't worry, Dr. Fauci, just an inconvenience.

00:30:01.600 What you saw there in the chart, bunch of inconveniences, nothing more.

00:30:05.480 Okay.

00:30:05.980 Now we're going to move to our daily cancellation.

00:30:07.600 It gives me great joy and pleasure to cancel mayor Bill de Blasio of New York.

00:30:12.420 A man who is less a man really than a sniveling, oafish troll and easily one of the most incompetent

00:30:18.940 clowns to ever hold major elected office in the United States, which is a hell of a bar

00:30:22.860 to get over.

00:30:23.440 I realize, but he's, he's, he's, he has succeeded.

00:30:26.160 Here's exhibit a, actually it's like exhibit Z.

00:30:28.880 I don't know.

00:30:29.160 There've been a lot of exhibits of this, but anyway, reading.

00:30:31.500 From the Blaze, it says evangelist Franklin Graham's charity organization, Samaritan's

00:30:35.120 Purse opened up a temporary tent hospital in Central Park to help treat patients infected

00:30:41.060 with COVID-19.

00:30:41.940 But New York City mayor Bill de Blasio doesn't trust the organization not to discriminate

00:30:46.060 against LGBTQ patients, Faithwire reported.

00:30:49.440 Samaritan's Purse set up a facility with 68 beds for the coronavirus patients in an attempt

00:30:52.680 to ease the burden of overwhelmed hospitals.

00:30:54.600 Um, de Blasio expressed distrust that the organization would treat LGBTQ people equally

00:31:01.260 and reportedly sent city staffers to the site to monitor the situation.

00:31:06.160 De Blasio said, according to the New York Post, I said immediately to my team that we had

00:31:09.540 to find out exactly what was happening.

00:31:11.220 Was there going to be an approach that was truly consistent with the values and laws of

00:31:14.500 New York City that everyone could be served and would be served and served equally?

00:31:19.200 We've received those assurances from the organization.

00:31:21.320 We're going to send people over from the mayor's office to monitor.

00:31:25.040 I'm very concerned that this is done right, but if it is done right, we need all the help

00:31:28.860 we can get.

00:31:30.620 Okay, now, just so you know, there was, of course, never any reason to think, never any

00:31:35.920 evidence, never any indication at all that this organization was going to discriminate

00:31:39.100 against anybody.

00:31:39.900 So, the only thing, what, what concerns Bill de Blasio is that it's a Christian organization.

00:31:47.740 That's what concerns him.

00:31:48.740 He's very concerned.

00:31:50.020 I'm very concerned.

00:31:51.200 Oh, Christians, Christians.

00:31:52.160 Now, Christians are showing up on the scene.

00:31:54.360 Christians are showing up on the scene like they always show up every time there's a catastrophe

00:31:58.280 or disaster or people are in need.

00:31:59.740 There's always Christians showing up.

00:32:01.760 So, Bill de Blasio must be concerned a lot.

00:32:03.660 He must be, you know, anytime there's a crisis, he must be very, very concerned because

00:32:07.560 of all these, all these sneaky little Christians who show up.

00:32:10.220 What are they doing around here?

00:32:11.660 It couldn't be that they're, you know, that they're following Christ's command to help

00:32:15.320 those in need.

00:32:15.900 No, no, it couldn't be that.

00:32:16.620 There's got to be something.

00:32:17.560 There's, there's a, there's, there's some sinister motivation they have.

00:32:20.620 It must be something sinister.

00:32:24.040 And so, de Blasio is concerned and he sends his goons out to monitor.

00:32:27.540 They're in the middle of a crisis and de Blasio is allocating resources to make sure

00:32:32.240 that hospital workers are being sufficiently progressive and woke in the fulfillment of their

00:32:36.820 medical responsibilities.

00:32:38.740 Think about that.

00:32:40.480 So, Bill de Blasio, a well-deserving cancellation.

00:32:46.820 Okay.

00:32:48.020 Now, I want to briefly tell you about a couple other things still to do on the show.

00:32:54.200 First of all, the All Access show, I wanted to tell you about that.

00:32:58.740 You know, we've been, we've been talking about it and more and more people are joining in

00:33:01.500 for the All Access live show.

00:33:03.220 We do it at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Central.

00:33:05.880 We do it every single night, at least every weeknight now.

00:33:09.300 And it's probably not always going to be that way.

00:33:11.120 Originally, the idea was to do it every once in a while just for our All Access members.

00:33:16.060 But we've, we've rolled, we've moved up to date.

00:33:19.560 We've opened it up to all Daily Wire members.

00:33:21.420 Just because in the middle of this national emergency, people are locked in their homes

00:33:25.460 and need a little bit of a, I think a little bit of companionship.

00:33:28.080 We all do.

00:33:28.740 There's a discussion, being able to talk to someone who's not immediately in your house

00:33:32.820 with you is kind of nice as well.

00:33:34.520 And so that's what we've been doing.

00:33:35.620 And it's been, I think, I think the feedback has been great.

00:33:37.440 People have enjoyed it.

00:33:38.120 I've enjoyed it.

00:33:39.140 So make sure you tune in today at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Central.

00:33:44.640 Now, moving on to emails as we wrap up the show for a Friday.

00:33:48.100 Remember, you can email the show if you become a Daily Wire member.

00:33:50.720 You can submit emails to the mailbag.

00:33:52.240 This is from Chuck.

00:33:53.760 Says, during your show on Wednesday, you took issue with the government lying to the public

00:33:57.600 by saying masks don't really help, so don't worry about wearing one.

00:34:02.020 Took issue with it today, too.

00:34:03.120 I've taken issue with it several times.

00:34:04.600 Then they came out later and said, yeah, that was kind of wrong.

00:34:07.100 We didn't want to cause panic and hoarding.

00:34:09.260 I'm not saying this was right or wrong, good or bad.

00:34:11.080 I just want to pose a couple of questions as food for thought.

00:34:13.400 Have you ever lied to your kids for their own good?

00:34:15.660 And maybe your own good as well.

00:34:16.720 Something you knew, if you told the truth about it, it would either end up badly for

00:34:20.540 one of you, or they just flat out wouldn't get it.

00:34:22.560 Now you might say, but they are children.

00:34:24.080 We're adults.

00:34:24.500 It's not the same.

00:34:26.120 To that, I would direct your attention to idiots licking toilet seats, toiletries, and

00:34:29.400 tubs of ice cream, or drinking beer off each other's butts on the beach, or any one of

00:34:34.060 a hundred other things people, mostly young people, might do to spread this and other

00:34:38.260 diseases.

00:34:38.960 They have the facts.

00:34:39.980 They know this is risky behavior, but they do it anyway.

00:34:41.620 Anyway, now if there was a lie to tell that would get them to stop that nonsense, should

00:34:45.500 it be told?

00:34:46.180 I just wanted to hear your opinion and get a learned man's perspective.

00:34:49.220 I'm not really a learned man.

00:34:50.320 So if you want a learned man's perspective, you got to talk to somebody else.

00:34:53.020 You got the wrong man for that.

00:34:54.400 I guess I already sort of addressed that earlier in the show.

00:34:57.200 I just, no, I don't think the government should be lying to us for our own good or because

00:35:02.020 they're afraid of what we would do with the truth.

00:35:04.760 Now, I'm not saying that everything that is true, the government should come out and say.

00:35:08.460 Obviously, there's classified information about various different things that they're

00:35:12.140 not going to tell us about.

00:35:13.640 So, of course, that's one thing.

00:35:15.460 But first of all, whether masks are effective in the middle of a pandemic, that should not

00:35:20.720 be classified information.

00:35:22.160 And besides, it's not just that they withheld the information.

00:35:24.660 They flat out lied and said, it's not effective.

00:35:27.580 Don't do it when it is effective and you should do it.

00:35:31.760 And these are so-called medical experts, right?

00:35:34.140 It's not like they just learned that medical masks are effective.

00:35:37.220 It never made sense to begin with because they were saying they're not effective, don't

00:35:40.980 wear them.

00:35:41.640 Oh, by the way, also, we need to save them for doctors because if doctors don't have it,

00:35:45.520 it's a big crisis.

00:35:46.360 Well, if they're not effective, why do doctors wear them, right?

00:35:48.520 So clearly, it never made sense to begin with and they didn't believe it.

00:35:51.380 No, should the government be withholding the information or lying to us because of the

00:35:55.480 idiots who lick toilet seats and so on?

00:35:57.100 No, no, because it's wrong, first of all.

00:36:00.560 And we're supposed to live in a free country.

00:36:03.120 And in a free country, you don't have a government or you shouldn't have a government.

00:36:05.540 We shouldn't tolerate a government that tells us lies for our own good.

00:36:09.840 And the third thing, as I mentioned, these people are idiots too.

00:36:13.740 Okay, who do you think these people in government are?

00:36:16.000 A lot of them were probably toilet seat lickers when they were younger or worse, right?

00:36:22.000 So these are a bunch of morons also in government.

00:36:24.640 So if we can't trust the rabble, the mob, why can we trust them?

00:36:31.580 Remember, they came from the rabble.

00:36:33.360 They came from the mob.

00:36:34.920 They were appointed by the rabble and the mob.

00:36:38.740 Some of them were.

00:36:39.440 The bureaucrats weren't appointed by any.

00:36:40.780 Well, certainly weren't elected by the mob, but were appointed by the people that the mob

00:36:45.440 elected.

00:36:46.640 So if you can't trust the mob, you can't trust them either.

00:36:50.320 They came from the same pool.

00:36:53.100 So I absolutely reject that.

00:36:55.220 I think, especially now, we need information.

00:36:58.960 We need the truth.

00:37:00.320 You need to be honest with people.

00:37:01.680 And it makes you think, what else are they lying about?

00:37:05.120 It erodes trust in our governing, in our rulers, which we shouldn't have rulers, but we do.

00:37:12.580 It erodes trust.

00:37:13.840 And then you start thinking, what else are they lying about?

00:37:15.980 What other lies for our own good are they telling us?

00:37:22.220 Jay says, hi, Matt.

00:37:25.060 Can you please explain why the coronavirus is different economically than the world wars

00:37:28.840 of the 20th century, I assume that means.

00:37:32.500 World wars of the 20th century.

00:37:34.200 It seems in both cases, economic and domestic life was paused while the nation dealt with

00:37:39.020 a common mission to defeat an enemy.

00:37:41.260 In both cases, the subsequent decades had significant economic growth and expansion.

00:37:46.160 This could be attributed to the pent-up consumer demand, as well as a flood of labor back into

00:37:49.980 the workforce.

00:37:50.760 I'm scared, like everybody, about the bleak economic outlook at the moment, but I'm curious

00:37:54.280 why the same principles don't apply here.

00:37:55.980 Uh, well, I, I think for a number of reasons, first of all, with a, with a war, with any

00:38:05.560 war, the, the economy doesn't go on pause.

00:38:08.980 Life doesn't go on pause.

00:38:11.300 Now, there may be significant resources that are put into fighting the war, which can be

00:38:16.780 a good or bad thing, depending on the war.

00:38:18.500 If we're talking about the endless, never-ending war in Afghanistan, it's a bad thing.

00:38:22.440 World War II, good thing, right?

00:38:24.740 So, resources are allocated there.

00:38:26.960 People, people in the work, and you, you lose a lot of workers because they're going overseas

00:38:30.760 to fight.

00:38:31.720 Many of them die.

00:38:32.860 So, that's the case, yeah.

00:38:34.100 But that's very different, I would say, from the government telling you to stay in your

00:38:39.580 homes and not do any work.

00:38:41.680 With a, with a war, everyone's doing work, and you might be doing different work than

00:38:45.640 you were doing before.

00:38:46.320 Especially if you, the work you were doing before was, you were working at a factory

00:38:50.440 or something, and now you're, and now you're overseas fighting the Nazis.

00:38:53.940 That's very different work.

00:38:54.860 But that's just, it's allocating the resources differently.

00:38:58.280 Here, we're just telling you there's no allocation.

00:39:00.240 The allocation is stay in your homes.

00:39:02.040 You're not, you're not allowed to leave.

00:39:03.220 This is the government saying, it's shutting down the economy.

00:39:07.040 Not, not directing the economy towards a war effort, but shutting it down completely.

00:39:11.540 So, this is a very different thing, and it's also, it is unprecedented.

00:39:16.060 Now, people will point out some of the measures that were taken in some areas during, for example,

00:39:21.780 the Spanish flu epidemic 100 years ago, but that was not anything like the scale that we

00:39:28.640 have now, where you have the entire country shut down.

00:39:32.240 To my knowledge, that did not happen.

00:39:35.300 It's not ever happened.

00:39:37.580 Certainly not in modern history.

00:39:39.020 And we should also keep in mind that back then, the government wasn't $20 trillion in

00:39:44.060 debt and spending even more to try to, to try to buy its way out of this, this upcoming

00:39:49.760 economic depression.

00:39:51.460 So, I would say it's, it's a different, now, just because it's unprecedented and different

00:39:56.160 than anything that's been done before doesn't make it wrong automatically.

00:40:00.180 It is wrong to be, to do what they're doing, but that's not what makes it wrong necessarily.

00:40:04.780 But it's, I just don't think those comparisons hold up.

00:40:09.000 So, thanks for that.

00:40:10.080 I think we'll leave it there.

00:40:11.340 Thanks, everybody, for watching.

00:40:12.480 Have a, have a great, try to have a, try to have a good weekend, you know.

00:40:15.400 At least around here, the weather's nice, so you can at least go outside.

00:40:18.140 If your state, if your state allows you, for an approved reason, you can exit your home

00:40:22.400 and enjoy, enjoy, enjoy nature, at least for small amounts of time.

00:40:27.520 And so, I hope you enjoy that.

00:40:28.840 We'll talk on Monday.

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Ep. 459 - Presidents Birx And Fauci

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