The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 460 - The Police States Of America

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, America has become essentially a collection of police states where

00:00:04.080 the Bill of Rights has been effectively nullified and citizens can get arrested or fined for

00:00:08.740 engaging in just normal everyday activities, activities that really have no plausible chance

00:00:14.920 of spreading the virus anyway, but they're still getting arrested or fined for it. Is all of this

00:00:20.160 worth it for the reward of safety, the possible reward of safety that we might be getting from it?

00:00:26.280 We'll talk about that also today. We'll cancel yet again, I think for the fourth time,

00:00:29.880 we're going to cancel Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez for claiming that the virus is targeting minority

00:00:35.320 communities because of racism. So you knew that was coming. And also I have a bunch of emails I

00:00:40.700 want to read from people across the country who've had run-ins with law enforcement over these state

00:00:46.920 home orders or people close to them have had run-ins. And also I've got a number of emails from

00:00:52.060 police officers themselves who are not in favor of having to enforce these ridiculous laws and have

00:00:58.920 raised some objections of their own that I think are interesting. And so I want to read those too.

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00:03:36.160 police in Kansas City intervened, quote unquote, to shut down a parade of elementary school teachers.

00:03:44.780 The staff of a local school there, John Fisk Elementary School, decided to organize the parade

00:03:49.720 just as a way to boost morale for the students and to encourage them in their new distance learning

00:03:56.820 adventure. And all of the teachers, administrators, they got together. Well, they didn't really get

00:04:02.060 together. They were in their own cars, right? And so you would think isolated in that way,

00:04:07.740 you would think that there's really no chance whatsoever of a virus being transmitted from car

00:04:12.800 to car. But a spokeswoman for the police later explained after the illicit gathering was broken

00:04:18.760 up by the cops that the celebration of education was not necessary and was non-essential. It was a

00:04:25.260 non-essential celebration. We can't have any non-essential celebrations right now.

00:04:28.400 Two days before, the Kansas City community was saved from the threat of cheerful elementary

00:04:34.140 school teachers waving from their minivans to students. Two days before that, police in Malibu

00:04:41.020 arrested a man who was caught paddleboarding in the ocean. Now, you got to see the footage of this

00:04:48.020 because two boats and three additional deputies on the shore were all brought to the scene to try to

00:04:56.020 stop this guy from paddleboarding. Watch this. Sheriff's on the beach.

00:05:02.360 But sheriff boat's coming now. This might be our first, could this be the first arrest made for

00:05:09.080 surfing documented on in history? Look at, now he's trying to bone, dude.

00:05:13.760 High-speed pursuit. High-speed pursuit. Run! Oh my god. He cut him off. Throw the, throw the tacks

00:05:28.180 down. Pop the tires. Uh-oh. Sheriff boat. Yeah, now you see that and you think, how could that guy

00:05:40.140 out by himself in the Pacific possibly contract or spread the virus? How is that going to work

00:05:48.960 exactly? Now, when I was talking about this over the weekend, I was told by people, well, he's got

00:05:54.720 to get to the ocean somehow. He probably drove there. Okay, yeah. So, I mean, let's just walk

00:06:00.660 through this. He leaves his house, walks down his driveway or whatever he has. He gets in his car.

00:06:06.720 So, he's isolated in the car. Drives down the road. Gets to an empty parking lot. Walks down the

00:06:15.540 beach. Gets in the water. At what point through that whole process is there any plausible possibility

00:06:23.800 that he would spread or contract the virus? Well, nobody really knows. But orders are orders after

00:06:29.660 all. In fact, somebody on Twitter told me that when I was complaining about this. They said, verbatim,

00:06:34.240 they said, orders are orders. That's the new American motto. Forget about freedom and liberty.

00:06:39.520 Orders are orders. And so, the guy was pulled out of the ocean and hauled away in handcuffs.

00:06:44.460 Not far from that harrowing scene, down south about two hours, I think, or an hour and a half,

00:06:50.920 maybe, the San Diego Sheriff's Department was giving out citations to people who'd committed the

00:06:56.640 nefarious crime of watching the sunset on the beach. Watching the sunset is now a crime. And around the

00:07:04.500 same time, over on the East Coast, Pennsylvania State Police were pulling over and ticketing a woman

00:07:08.960 who, according to the citation, was going for a drive. Now, this was in York County, Pennsylvania.

00:07:15.420 And she was going for a drive in York County, Pennsylvania. You may think there that, first of

00:07:22.540 all, when you've been locked in your house for three weeks, going for a drive is sort of an

00:07:25.960 essential activity for your mental health. And you may also think, if you're familiar with

00:07:30.880 Pennsylvania, York County, Pennsylvania, it's a rural area. So, you'd think a woman driving along

00:07:37.180 a country road, you know, the rural county of York, Pennsylvania, is not really at risk and is not

00:07:44.240 putting anybody else at risk. You'd think that, but none of that matters because the politicians have

00:07:50.280 spoken and orders are orders. You may leave your home only for the reasons that they decree.

00:07:56.560 A woman in Minnesota was recently pulled over and ticketed for two offenses. The first was she was

00:08:01.600 driving on a canceled license. Okay, that's fair. Give her a ticket for that. But the second one is she

00:08:06.660 was violating the state's stay-at-home orders. Now, what was she doing? She went to Taco Bell.

00:08:12.240 And right before that, she had stopped at her storage unit that she's renting.

00:08:18.100 Why would one be essential and not the other? Apparently, Taco Bell, you're allowed to do,

00:08:21.540 you can't go to your storage unit. As far as I know, in Minnesota, they don't have anything

00:08:25.800 specifically written in the law saying you're not allowed to go to a storage unit. And I can think of

00:08:29.760 many essential reasons for a person to go to a storage unit, right? But it's just something that

00:08:36.400 I guess it's up to, it's the judgment call of the police officer. And if he wants to take

00:08:40.400 it you for it, he's going to do it. The point is that you can't just go out and move around as

00:08:48.380 you please. That's the point. What do you think this is? A free country? Now, officials in other

00:08:53.440 parts of the nation, as we talked about last week, have banned, well, we know that they've shut down

00:08:58.540 stores and retailers and everything, but they've also banned essential retailers from selling

00:09:03.480 non-essential items. Like, for example, mosquito repellent. John Cardio on Twitter posted this

00:09:10.060 picture. Take a look at this. It says, by order of the town, they're not allowed to sell these

00:09:16.420 items. Look at the items that they're not allowed. Mosquito repellent. Now, I would think mosquito

00:09:21.960 repellent is pretty damn essential. Prevents West Nile, prevents malaria. I would think that's an

00:09:29.000 essential activity, but apparently we can only fight one disease at a time. We're focusing on

00:09:34.200 coronavirus, not those other diseases. So forget, we'll let those diseases come, do whatever they

00:09:39.300 want to do. We're focused on coronavirus right now. The mayor of Port Isabel, Texas, has decided,

00:09:46.180 for whatever reason, that residents may not travel with more than two people in their vehicle.

00:09:50.880 And this, I've been told by people around the country, this is a somewhat common

00:09:56.120 regulation now, that you're being told not only where you can go in your car, but how many people

00:10:04.340 are allowed to be in your car when you're going there. Now, once again, if you all live in the

00:10:08.820 same house and you're a family, okay, you're already exposed to each other in a house. So why can't

00:10:15.260 you be exposed to each other in a car? What's the difference? And what if you're a single parent with

00:10:20.120 three kids? Well, I guess two of your kids are out of luck. You can only bring one kid if you've got

00:10:23.800 to go to the store. Or stay home and starve. You know, that's your other choice. Now, how exactly

00:10:30.640 are they going to enforce this? That's not exactly sure, but I know that some states have made that

00:10:35.940 enforcement part easier on themselves by setting up checkpoints to stop and question every car that

00:10:40.840 passes through. A person from New York who gets caught in Florida right now, for example, may face 60

00:10:47.160 days in jail. Now, I want to remind you here that Florida and New York are states in America.

00:10:54.080 They are not places in Soviet Russia, despite how it may sound. Meanwhile, protesters outside of

00:11:00.460 abortion clinics in California and North Carolina, other places as well, have been arrested for

00:11:05.160 violating their state's stay-at-home orders, despite the fact that they were following the

00:11:09.540 protocols of social distancing. So this wasn't a whole group of people all bunched up together.

00:11:13.840 They were spaced out, like you're supposed to be for social distancing. But it doesn't matter.

00:11:19.560 You would think that that would protect them. Also, there is that obscure legal artifact known

00:11:26.100 as the First Amendment that you think also would protect them. But no, not that either. The First

00:11:31.240 Amendment has been officially neutralized, as the multiple pastors who've been arrested for

00:11:36.380 for holding worship services have also found out. Now, all of this may seem quite oppressive and

00:11:45.200 Gestapo-ish, but a police chief in Colorado put those worries to the side. If you think that this

00:11:50.900 is oppressive, he said it's not oppressive. He explained that leaving your house and going outside

00:11:57.020 and doing things is not a right, but a privilege. It's a privilege. And it can be revoked if it's

00:12:04.820 misused. There was a prosecutor in Ohio who kind of exploded in a fit of rage during an interview over

00:12:11.540 the weekend. And he said that those who defy his stay-at-home orders or his state's stay-at-home

00:12:16.920 orders are committing felonious assault. Right? So if you go to the beach or something against your state,

00:12:25.540 you're committing assault. Assault against who? I don't know. And if you're guilty of that,

00:12:30.780 to quote him directly, he said, you can sit your butt in jail, sit there and kill yourself.

00:12:36.640 Again, I remind you, this is the United States of America. Or at least it used to be.

00:12:43.020 Now, apologists for our newly established police state will tell me that states and localities

00:12:49.880 have the authority to impose restrictions in an emergency. And that's true. But the question

00:12:56.880 of how far their authority actually goes is already complicated. And in this case,

00:13:02.200 it's made even more complicated by the fact that these state home orders in many cases are based

00:13:07.460 not on a current medical emergency in the respective state, but on models that forecast

00:13:14.260 the possibility of an emergency in the future. Minnesota is under a stay-at-home order, despite

00:13:19.920 having only 29 coronavirus deaths up to this point, and a population of over 5 million. Now,

00:13:27.220 perhaps the situation will get worse. Perhaps it won't. The point is that there is no current

00:13:33.760 emergency in Minnesota or many of the other states that are on lockdown. There is rather a model

00:13:40.680 that projects an emergency in the future. And if projected emergencies can justify the effective

00:13:48.320 nullification of the Bill of Rights, then where's the limit? Haven't we now granted the government

00:13:54.460 the power to seize near total control on the basis of any real or phantom threat? Isn't that what's

00:14:03.120 happened here? And there are other problems, too. We don't know that these lockdowns will

00:14:10.480 actually have the effect of saving lives. We don't know that. It's possible, as Dr. Fauci himself

00:14:16.040 has admitted, that the virus will come roaring back to life anyway, whenever we leave our houses,

00:14:21.520 whenever that happens to be, whether it's a month from now or six years from now.

00:14:25.300 It's also possible that the illness came to America back in November or December or January,

00:14:33.760 aboard any number of the hundreds of thousands of travelers from China who came here during that

00:14:39.900 span. Now, if that's the case, then it would seem the viral horse left the Chinese barn a long time

00:14:47.740 ago. And it's way too late to do lockdowns. And that means that we are doing these lockdowns and

00:14:56.300 we're obliterating our national economy, driving millions into ruin for no reason. In fact, all we're

00:15:02.020 doing is locking people down in their homes, locking people who've been exposed in their homes with

00:15:07.600 people who had not to that point been exposed. So what do we have then? We have a series of

00:15:13.660 indefinite stay-at-home orders based on dubious models and dubious projections with a dubious chance

00:15:19.580 of success and which often outlaw behavior that could not even plausibly put anyone at risk from

00:15:24.440 the disease that may or may not or maybe already has become epidemic in the states where these laws

00:15:30.460 have been enacted. Is that good enough to justify treating Americans like they're subjects in a

00:15:36.580 communist dictatorship? Is it good enough? I would argue that nothing could ever justify

00:15:44.220 a lot of what we're seeing here. The First and Fourth Amendments, which are the provisions of the

00:15:51.640 Bill of Rights that have really had the worst time of it recently, I would say serve no purpose and have

00:15:58.040 no reason to exist if they can be canceled or overridden whenever the government might have a

00:16:03.200 especially compelling reason to do so. In fact, I would say it is only when the government has a

00:16:09.800 especially compelling reason to override the amendments that the amendments serve any function.

00:16:15.220 After all, we really don't need them. We don't need them during the times when the government has no

00:16:20.000 interest in infringing on them. So if we toss aside our right to assembly, our right to practice our

00:16:26.680 religion, our right to be free from unreasonable search and seizure, etc., whenever the government insists that

00:16:31.440 such protections are dangerous and must be tossed aside, then we might as well not have them in the

00:16:37.200 first place. Most of the time, right, the government would just really doesn't have any special interest

00:16:44.300 in stopping you from going out and getting together and doing what you want to do. If we're saying that

00:16:49.040 only when they have an interest in doing it can they do it, then okay, well then basically they can do it.

00:16:53.540 And then these rights mean nothing. It's kind of like locking a criminal in a cell but giving him

00:17:01.600 the key to open it along with a stern warning to only use the key if he really, really feels like

00:17:07.420 he has a good reason. Doesn't the key make the cell a rather pointless accessory? Now sure, he might

00:17:15.220 remain in the cell sometimes, but only when he wants to. And it's precisely when he wants to be behind

00:17:20.620 bars that you don't really need the bars at all. The bars are only there for the times when he really

00:17:26.340 desperately wants to get out. That's why you have the bars that he can't escape from.

00:17:32.540 I would argue that the Bill of Rights and the First Amendment, the Fourth Amendment, they're only

00:17:36.480 really there for the times when the government really, really, really wishes they weren't.

00:17:42.540 And if in those times we say, okay, it's not there, you can pretend it's not there,

00:17:46.220 but what's the point? Why do we even have it? I'm not suggesting that state governments should do

00:17:54.380 nothing in response to the coronavirus. I am suggesting that they shouldn't have the power

00:17:58.280 to do whatever the hell they want, for whatever reason they want, to whatever extent they want,

00:18:03.000 for however long they want, with whatever penalty they want, which is what is happening right now

00:18:08.820 all across the country. Governments should act justly and prudently to respond to threats that

00:18:17.660 endanger citizens' lives. But there is little in the way of justice or prudence or respect for basic

00:18:24.080 human liberties in these measures that we're seeing all across the country. And that to me is the problem.

00:18:32.320 We're going to get to headlines here in a second. But first, All Access Live. I want to remind you

00:18:38.720 again, if you haven't tuned in yet to one of these things, and I would suggest 8 p.m. Eastern,

00:18:43.540 5 p.m. Pacific. We do them, well, I want to say, I think we're doing them every day now.

00:18:48.880 Certainly most of the days of the week we're doing them. And originally, All Access Live was going to

00:18:53.080 be something for our All Access members that we were going to roll out a couple months from now,

00:18:56.520 but we moved it up. And now it's open to all Daily Wire members. And we're just doing it as a way to

00:19:03.320 kind of give us a break from the isolation. It's a really relaxed conversation. And so if you're around

00:19:10.520 tonight at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific, make sure you tune in to All Access Live. And I think you'll

00:19:16.660 enjoy it. All right, let's go to headlines. Number one, here's the headline in Vox. It says,

00:19:20.800 the CDC has begun testing blood for immunity against coronavirus. Reading out says the Centers

00:19:26.680 for Disease Control and Prevention has begun conducting blood tests, it says, will help

00:19:31.400 determine if a person has been exposed to the coronavirus, even without showing symptoms.

00:19:36.220 These serological tests or serosurveys are different from the nose swabs used to diagnose

00:19:40.900 active cases of COVID-19. By analyzing blood, researchers will be able to tell if a person

00:19:45.280 develops certain antibodies in the blood, indicating that they were infected by the virus and recovered.

00:19:49.120 If a person can be shown to have developed these protections against reinfection,

00:19:53.160 they could potentially reenter society. Now, and then it says that they've already started testing.

00:20:00.120 Well, let's see here. Who are they going to test? They're going to roll out these surveys in three

00:20:05.100 phases. And here are the three phases of the three groups that will get tested. People living in hot

00:20:11.620 spots of the disease, such as New York and Seattle, but who were not diagnosed. Then a representative

00:20:16.620 sample of people living across the country and then healthcare workers. Now, the survey says that

00:20:23.460 they've already started testing some of the people that live in these hotspots, but the tests of people

00:20:28.720 who live across the country, they're not going to roll those out until the summer. And then as far

00:20:34.660 as healthcare workers, who knows? This is really unacceptable. The testing in general has been a disaster,

00:20:41.380 but these tests in particular are extraordinarily important. Very important right now. Not three

00:20:48.620 months from now, not in the summer. And there's no excuse for this lazy, lackadaisical, slow-walked

00:20:55.540 rollout of the test, because we need this data right now. We need the data to tell us if this virus has

00:21:01.380 already been here for months, like we just talked about. And if it has, then as I just said, the horse has

00:21:07.640 left the barn, which means the lockdowns are useless, worse than useless. They're not only

00:21:14.520 financially, but also in terms of health, physical health, counterproductive, because you're locking

00:21:19.960 people away who've already been exposed. We could very well be in a situation that a young person who's

00:21:28.420 been exposed has been locked in isolation now with their elderly parents. And because of that

00:21:36.680 prolonged exposure, that's not broken up by going out and doing things. Now the elderly parents get

00:21:43.440 infected, otherwise they might not have. Either way, the point is, if this thing has been spreading

00:21:48.140 since November, and we start doing lockdowns in mid-March, well, then we will have destroyed the

00:21:54.280 economy for no reason. In fact, this is anecdotal, but I've heard from many, many, many people who

00:22:02.100 tell me that in the range of November, December, January, February, they came down with a pretty

00:22:10.080 severe respiratory illness, many cases tested negative for the flu. And they say, I never had

00:22:16.680 anything like this before. It was very strange. I've heard this. It's all anecdotal, of course,

00:22:21.080 but I've heard this from people all across the country that have messaged me about it.

00:22:24.320 And I was in the same boat. You know, I had a pretty serious respiratory illness in early February.

00:22:31.500 Now I did test positive for the flu. So it's probably likely that I just had the flu.

00:22:36.720 But there were some things that were interesting. Like for me, I had, and the doctors couldn't figure

00:22:42.700 it out because I ended up going to the hospital. I wasn't hospitalized, but I went to the hospital,

00:22:45.820 I got an IV. And I talked to a number of doctors and nurses between an urgent care and the hospital

00:22:50.860 they went to. And they couldn't figure out why about three days before I came down with the flu,

00:22:56.980 I had this rash that looked really itchy, but wasn't that itchy. And they did a bunch of blood

00:23:02.220 work and everything. And they thought maybe it was a blood infection and it wasn't that. Blood work

00:23:05.720 came back fine. They couldn't figure out what it was. Maybe it was an allergic reaction. Well,

00:23:08.980 it turns out it wasn't that. And then I'm doing some reading over the weekend. And I find out that

00:23:13.020 there are some doctors who are saying that coronavirus sometimes presents itself first with a rash

00:23:19.680 that precedes the more normal symptoms that we're used to hearing about. So what does that mean?

00:23:25.620 Does that mean I had, I don't know. It's possible I could have had both. There are people who have

00:23:29.200 these co-infections where they get the flu and coronavirus all at once, or coronavirus and some

00:23:34.360 other illness on top of it. The point is, who knows, right? But it is quite possible that millions

00:23:40.940 of us have already been exposed to it, have already had it, have already recovered from it.

00:23:45.000 And months or weeks after that, we got locked down in our houses and told we can't go to our jobs.

00:23:51.160 Okay, let's go number two. Well, the coronavirus models haven't really been panning out too well,

00:23:57.120 but here's one scientific model that I think probably will. Reading now from the mirror,

00:24:00.560 it says, with the UK now in its third week of lockdown, many bored Brits have turned to gaming

00:24:05.620 in the hopes of filling their time stuck in the house. But a new study looking into the effects of

00:24:09.660 gaming on the human body may put you off gaming for a while. Researchers from OnlineCasino.ca

00:24:15.860 have predicted what avid gamers could look like in just 20 years if they don't change their habits.

00:24:21.920 The team has created a model called Michael, who doesn't look too well.

00:24:28.180 And this is what, now here's Michael, I'll show you the picture. This is what they came up with.

00:24:31.880 And this is what they're saying. If you play games, video games too much, this isn't me,

00:24:35.620 okay? The researchers are saying if you play video games too much, you might look like this

00:24:40.200 in 20 years. Basically, you'll look like Gollum if Gollum lived in his mom's basement instead of a

00:24:46.260 cave and if he had a BMI of 97. My only question is, why are they saying gamers will look like this

00:24:54.100 in 20 years? I think a lot of them sort of already do. No offense. Don't take that as an insult.

00:25:01.500 I didn't mean it that way. Personally, I think Michael's a pretty handsome guy.

00:25:05.620 That's my personal opinion. Let's go to number three. Here's Joe Biden on ABC saying something.

00:25:12.660 We cannot let this, we've never allowed any crisis from the Civil War straight through to

00:25:19.460 the pandemic of 17, all the way around 16. We have never, never let our democracy

00:25:25.740 second fiddle. We can both have a democracy and elections and at the same time correct the public

00:25:32.400 health. We have no idea what that, I honestly don't know what he's even trying to say there.

00:25:58.800 That is gibberish. And as everybody's been saying, this is a symptom of dementia. It's not a joke.

00:26:10.180 This really is what you start to see from people who are developing dementia.

00:26:14.380 It's nonsensical. Now look, we've all stumbled over our words. I certainly have plenty of times. I do it

00:26:19.340 all the time. But to string together a whole paragraph like that of total nonsense. And when

00:26:28.240 I say nonsense, it meaning just literal nonsense. You can't make heads or tails of it. It's almost

00:26:34.500 like someone took some words and just put them in a blender and then poured them out, dumped them on

00:26:39.860 the table, and this is what it looks like, right? Or if you dump a bag of Scrabble letters on the

00:26:45.300 tables, this is what Joe Biden is offering now as insight. It's very concerning, to say the least.

00:26:54.160 Number four, the New York Times used cell phone data to track the movements of Americans and to

00:26:59.460 report which areas of the country are being very disobedient and still driving a lot instead of

00:27:05.380 staying home. And they provided this handy map. So take a look at this. The red areas are where people

00:27:12.100 are still driving about as much as they did before the outbreak happened. But do you notice something?

00:27:16.960 All of the good boys and girls, the people not driving a lot or obeying, most of them live in

00:27:22.200 the metropolitan northeast or on the west coast. And the bad boys and girls who are very naughty

00:27:27.360 and are not listening and are still driving a lot, they live in the south or the midwest.

00:27:33.380 Now, what might explain that? Well, it could be that urbanites are enlightened and compassionate

00:27:39.920 and very concerned with stopping the spread and helping their fellow man. I'm sure that's how the

00:27:44.840 New York Times would like us to interpret this. Whereas Southerners are a bunch of selfish hicks who

00:27:50.620 hate science and the elderly and don't care about anybody but themselves. That's how we're supposed to

00:27:54.740 interpret it. But the other possible interpretation here is that people in urban areas don't have to

00:28:03.040 drive to get to the grocery store or the pharmacy. Or if they live even in the suburbs, not far from a

00:28:10.140 city, probably there are retail outlets within a 60-second drive of them. Whereas in rural areas,

00:28:19.100 the basic necessities are far more spread out, which means that folks have to drive in those areas if

00:28:26.560 they want to go to the grocery store or the pharmacy. So that could be what it is. But I think

00:28:31.960 the bigger issue here is that the New York Times has our cell phone data and is tracking our

00:28:39.300 movements and then publishing the information to shame us. That to me is the far more concerning

00:28:46.320 aspect of this. Number five, Dr. Birx on Friday warned Americans that the next two weeks will be

00:28:52.560 really, really bad. Where have I heard that before? I feel like they've been saying that for the past

00:28:57.300 five or six weeks. And we need to be super extra careful. And she seems to now be recommending

00:29:04.780 precautions that go even further than what we've been doing in the past. Listen to this.

00:29:11.060 The next two weeks are extraordinarily important. And that's why I think you've heard from Dr. Fauci,

00:29:16.360 from myself, from the president and the vice president, that this is the moment

00:29:21.020 to do everything that you can on the presidential guidelines. This is the moment to not be going to

00:29:27.860 the grocery store, not going to the pharmacy, but doing everything you can to keep your family and

00:29:32.800 your friends safe. And that means everybody doing the six feet distancing, washing your hands.

00:29:38.940 So, yes, she's saying don't go to the grocery store or the pharmacy now.

00:29:42.800 Well, you kind of need that. You might need medicine. You might need to eat.

00:29:49.800 So now she's saying we shouldn't even do that.

00:29:54.460 Total madness. Speaking of which, going on to our daily cancellation,

00:29:59.320 Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez moves into the prestigious position of being the most canceled person,

00:30:04.240 at least on this show. And I think probably nationwide, too. She's probably the most canceled person.

00:30:08.700 And for good reason. This will be, I believe, her third or fourth cancellation. And here's why this

00:30:14.500 one's happening. Check out the tweet. It says, COVID deaths are disproportionately spiking in black

00:30:19.380 and brown communities. Why? Because the chronic toll of redlining, environmental racism, wealth gap,

00:30:26.240 et cetera, are underlying health conditions. Inequality is a comorbidity. COVID relief should be

00:30:32.660 drafted with a lens of reparations. So she's tying in reparations with coronavirus relief.

00:30:40.700 A lot to unpack here. First of all, what the hell is environmental racism? I've heard this phrase

00:30:45.580 many times from kooky left-wingers. I still don't know what it is. And whatever it is, I would argue

00:30:51.880 that white people are more often victims of it. For example, you know, I know I get really bad sunburns

00:30:57.720 when I go out in the summer. I could be outside for three and a half seconds. Just in the time it

00:31:04.220 takes me to get from my house to my car, I could be burned to a crisp. And whereas people with darker

00:31:11.500 skin aren't as susceptible to that. So to me, that is environmental racism. Or maybe we could call it

00:31:18.200 solar racism. That is the sun singling me out for being pasty white and literally burning me.

00:31:28.420 Almost setting me on fire and burning me to death in an act of cosmic prejudice.

00:31:36.720 So I think at least I have a claim also to being a victim of environmental racism.

00:31:42.000 Second, the wealth gap is an underlying health condition.

00:31:46.680 So now I guess if you go to the doctor for a physical and he runs some blood work and everything

00:31:51.080 and then he comes back, you know, he might say, well, look, everything looks okay.

00:31:55.060 You do have a slightly elevated blood pressure. We need to keep your cholesterol in check.

00:32:00.320 And I'm afraid to say you have wealth gap. To use the more medical term, you're broke as a joke.

00:32:07.480 Now,

00:32:09.000 so I can think of all kinds of places that can go, all kinds of Orwellian possibilities for treating

00:32:18.120 being poor as an underlying health condition. But then third, we get to this thing where she's,

00:32:23.720 the whole idea of that coronavirus is affecting minority communities based on any kind of racism or whatever

00:32:30.760 is obviously absurd.

00:32:33.940 Why is that actually happening?

00:32:35.420 Well, it's not hard to figure out because it's targeting cities.

00:32:40.620 It's not target. Well, it's not targeting cities.

00:32:42.800 It's just that it's affecting cities more than rural areas, not because of the race,

00:32:47.520 the respective races of the people that live there, but because of population density.

00:32:51.360 So it's not about race, Alexandria Cortez. It's about population density. And when you've got a lot

00:32:56.820 of people living on top of each other and cramming themselves into subways and everything,

00:33:03.300 you're going to, it's going to spread disease, not just coronavirus, all kinds of other diseases too.

00:33:08.800 Whereas if you live out in the country and you're more spread out, it's, there's not as much of a

00:33:12.340 risk there. So that's, that's really all there is to it. And I could pretty much guarantee you

00:33:17.060 that any minorities who live in rural areas, which plenty do, they're going to be in the same spot

00:33:25.000 as the white people who live in those same areas. Okay. Now to move on to emails now and doing things

00:33:34.660 a little bit differently this time, I've gotten a bunch of emails from people around the country

00:33:39.420 who've had experiences with these stay-at-home orders. And I just want, I want to read some of

00:33:45.580 these. I'm not going to read any names or anything, but just some of the experiences people have had,

00:33:50.300 I think are worth, worth looking at. So we'll start with this. It says, Hey Matt, in all honesty,

00:33:55.360 what the hell are we supposed to do about the police stopping us? I was fishing in Stockton,

00:33:59.260 California by myself with no one around me. And they told me that I have to leave because what

00:34:04.040 I was doing wasn't essential. I responded by saying, what is it that I'm doing wrong? No one is around

00:34:09.400 me and I'm not sick. They responded by telling me that if I don't leave, they will cite me with a $500 fine.

00:34:15.580 Um, another one says my husband's uncle and his wife were stopped by police for walking in an

00:34:21.380 abandoned shopping mall. And again, for walking along an empty beach in Oregon. Uh, another one.

00:34:26.960 Hi Matt. I live in Long Island, New York and cops on horseback are ticketing people walking in the

00:34:31.140 street, not far enough apart from each other. Most of them live in the same house. Uh, another one

00:34:38.300 friend of mine was surfing by himself in Pensacola on Friday, was approached by authorities and told to go

00:34:42.640 home. Crazy how everybody's okay with this. Another one, my, my teenager was in her car talking to other

00:34:48.700 teens in their cars in a parking lot and the police came and broke it up, threatening fines. Um, hey Matt,

00:34:56.700 been following these citations too and thought you might find it interesting that the governor of

00:35:00.360 Wisconsin has ordered that all golf courses be closed. It makes no sense to me that people wouldn't

00:35:05.600 be able to golf, especially playing solo. This got me thinking about the essential versus

00:35:09.540 non-essential tags. In some contexts, I understand the need for these, but shouldn't we also be

00:35:14.060 categorizing things according to their likelihood of spreading the virus? Just because something is

00:35:17.800 non-essential, why should it be banned if it doesn't increase the spread? Um, here's one. This

00:35:24.440 one isn't really about law necessarily, but it is, it is absurd. I think it says, hi Matt,

00:35:29.640 wanted to share my experience today. I'm from Venice, California. Wife is 20 weeks pregnant had,

00:35:35.800 and I've got, I've actually gotten a lot like this, but this, this exact sort of situation is,

00:35:39.980 this is very common. Apparently wife is 20 weeks pregnant, had to go for ultrasound and they

00:35:43.940 wouldn't let me be with her and see my baby's ultrasound due to COVID concerns. They said no

00:35:48.620 guests. And I told them that I'm the husband and father. I wasn't a guest and I had every right to be

00:35:53.100 there. It was infuriating. I even brought a mask and gloves, told them that if my wife has it,

00:35:58.380 I probably have it too. The staff was very rude and told me I wasn't even allowed to wait in the

00:36:02.500 waiting room, had to go sit in my car and wait for her there. This was in an office, not even a

00:36:07.120 hospital. I couldn't see my boy in his 20 week ultrasound, my first baby. I feel they robbed me

00:36:11.800 of such an important experience. It sucks. When will this madness stop? Now my wife is worried

00:36:15.860 they won't allow me to be there for the delivery in a couple of months. And I've heard of cases like

00:36:19.740 that too. And it makes absolutely no sense whatsoever. You live together. So you've already

00:36:24.520 been exposed. If one of you has it, the other one probably does too, or at least you've both been

00:36:28.500 exposed to it already. Someone else says, I was fined a hundred dollars for smoking crack outside

00:36:35.540 of defunct Wendy's. Tyranny is right around the corner. But you know what? If we can't even smoke

00:36:41.100 crack at Wendy's, then what? Just what's the point? What's the point of America anymore?

00:36:48.960 This wasn't the cops, but this is a different email, but someone going along with the non,

00:36:53.260 something going along with the non-essential narrative. My friend was taking his kids for a walk

00:36:57.200 and he ran into his neighbor. They started talking while maintaining social distance and someone

00:37:02.180 driving by takes a picture of them and says that she's going to call the cops. He later finds out

00:37:06.980 that she posted the picture online on the township police's Facebook page, I believe. Luckily the

00:37:12.740 police took my friend's side and said he wasn't doing anything wrong, which is surprising because we

00:37:17.420 live in one of the lockdown counties in Pennsylvania. If he lived in another township where the cops are

00:37:22.700 more overzealous, he probably would have been fined. Can you imagine? That I think is the worst thing

00:37:29.040 about this. Even putting aside what politicians and bureaucrats and law enforcement are doing,

00:37:36.000 to me, or I would say at least the most discouraging aspect is how many Americans are treating each other

00:37:41.600 and their neighbors, turning into snitches. I just think it's, it's, I can tell you, I was at a park a few days ago

00:37:51.220 going for a run, which is an approved activity. Just so you know, I've, I've, we have gotten the approval

00:37:57.600 to run where I live, but I saw people playing basketball and appeared to be a family just by the makeup of the

00:38:03.920 people. It very much appeared to be a family playing basketball. Now I'm pretty sure, but 95% sure that

00:38:10.960 basketball is now an illicit activity. You're not allowed to do it. It's, it's considered non-essential.

00:38:16.420 It's not, now I'm not a hundred percent sure. I mean, that's part of the problem here. It's very vague.

00:38:21.460 Um, but I saw that. And what was I, do you think I called the cops? No, because I, I would honest,

00:38:29.360 I would rather be dead than be the kind of person that would call the cops on a family playing

00:38:34.640 basketball in a park, minding their own business, not hurting anybody. I, I, I, it, it could not ever

00:38:43.180 be worth it to become that kind of person. And the fact that so many people are not just willing to be

00:38:50.860 that kind of person, but are excited for the opportunity. I mean, this woman in this story here,

00:38:57.220 she's, it sounds like she was just patrolling the neighborhood. It would, if I was driving along

00:39:02.620 and I saw some people walking around and they were, you know, standing at a distance and talking

00:39:05.980 to her, it wouldn't even occur to me. In fact, you know what I would think? I, here's what I would

00:39:10.480 think to myself. I would think, well, that's nice. That's great. You know, you've, you've still got

00:39:13.320 neighbors who are staying in touch and everything and breaking up the isolation a little bit and

00:39:18.180 respecting the social distance. That's what I would think. That's what a normal, that's what you

00:39:21.180 would think, right? A normal person. Well, here you have this scumbag who sees this and decides I'm

00:39:27.520 going to roll down my window, yell at them, threaten to call the cops and then, and then take their

00:39:31.720 picture and post it online. Just sociopathic behavior. It's not just politicians and bureaucrats

00:39:39.580 and law enforcement that are having a power trip. It's also your neighborhood snitch. Your

00:39:44.740 neighborhood snitch has, is, is living in, in hog heaven right now. She is, is, this is her dream

00:39:51.580 come true. And I say she only because almost every story I've heard like this, it's almost always a

00:39:56.980 middle-aged white woman doing it. And I'm not saying that every middle-aged white woman is a

00:40:00.400 neighborhood snitch, but I think probably 95% of neighborhood snitches are middle-aged white

00:40:05.080 women. I don't, that's how it works out. I don't know why that's the case. Maybe someone could do

00:40:08.680 an anthropological study on this. I'm not sure, but that is how it works out. Okay. Then I got a few

00:40:13.200 emails from, from police officers who are very much not on board with what's happening. And I think

00:40:17.640 these are interesting. So let me read a couple of these. It says, I'm a cop in a small town.

00:40:21.640 We've gotten many calls of paranoid people snitching on kids playing basketball or going fishing

00:40:25.980 because we have a few parks in town, but luckily we don't enforce any of those BS social distancing

00:40:31.040 rules. I'm sure it's worse in other places though. I agree 100% with your stance that this

00:40:35.700 whole thing is nonsense and not right. I'll sooner resign before I'd ever take someone to jail for

00:40:40.280 something so stupid. I'm a police officer in a suburb of Milwaukee, Wisconsin. We have lots of

00:40:46.900 busybodies calling in safer at home violations. If it's a personal residence, we're not even responding

00:40:51.820 to the call. If it's a business, we go to verify that it's open, then leave the decision up to the

00:40:57.900 health department. Most of us officers hate how this is playing out and don't feel good about having

00:41:02.260 to possibly enforce any of this. Then it says, I'm a cop in Massachusetts. I would be pretty pissed if I

00:41:07.800 was being told to risk exposure to myself and by extension, my family, by interacting with people

00:41:12.240 who aren't necessarily doing anything that could spread the disease. It's bad enough that we have to

00:41:16.100 risk exposure answering regular calls. Fortunately, my department hasn't told us to enforce

00:41:21.500 quarantine violations. I can honestly say if they do, I'll be looking the other way. I've gotten

00:41:27.200 several other emails like this from police officers. Let me just say, these are good police

00:41:31.840 officers. I think we also have to keep in mind that it's not the cops who decided on these laws.

00:41:42.920 They're the ones that are just being forced to enforce them. I would have to imagine that a great

00:41:48.480 number of them do not want to. Number one, because they know that they have to effectively harass

00:41:54.840 otherwise law-abiding good citizens for doing normal things like fishing. I think probably most

00:42:00.240 police officers have no interest in doing that. Also, like the police officer in Massachusetts points

00:42:05.200 out, they have to risk exposing themselves now. So this guy who's out fishing or paddleboarding or

00:42:12.360 whatever, there was no risk of him spreading the disease to anybody if he had it. But now,

00:42:19.020 because you're enforcing the law, now there is a risk, whereas before there wasn't.

00:42:24.420 And so we have to remember that a lot of these police officers... Now, I have heard stories of

00:42:30.440 people who've had these kind of run-ins with cops who seem very excited to be given this power and

00:42:36.680 authority, but I think probably most are not. And certainly these here are not. So I appreciate

00:42:43.620 that. I appreciate that attitude. And anyone else who has stories like that, I'm always interested in

00:42:48.680 reading them and calling attention to them, because I think that this stuff matters. I think it does.

00:42:53.720 This stuff should... This just should not be happening in America. And there's no disease

00:42:59.460 that could ever make it okay. And we'll leave it there. Thanks, everybody, for watching. Thanks

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00:43:47.220 Hey, everyone. It's Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show. The experts tell us we're heading

00:43:51.080 into the peak of the crisis. So get ready for some really bad behavior from politicians,

00:43:56.300 Twitterers, and of course, our awful, awful press. How will our leadership behave? And how will we?

00:44:02.340 We'll talk about it on The Andrew Klavan Show.

The Matt Walsh Show - April 06, 2020

Ep. 460 - The Police States Of America

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