The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 462 - Rules For Thee, Not For Me

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, some of the mayors in major cities that are currently under lockdown

00:00:04.900 have decided that they're allowed to break their own rules because apparently, as Orwell wrote

00:00:10.080 famously, some animals are more equal than others. So we'll talk about that. Also, five headlines,

00:00:15.120 including a dad being arrested in front of his six-year-old daughter in an empty park in Colorado

00:00:20.300 because they were playing t-ball, which is against the law now. So that will also be discussed.

00:00:26.460 And today we cancel the media outlets, all of them that have decided to become propaganda arms

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00:02:02.040 where life meets legal. Also, before we get into the meat of things here, I also wanted to mention

00:02:07.640 we are, a programming note, we're unveiling a new segment on the show that I'm pretty excited about.

00:02:13.840 Because you know that, as you know, I'm a theocratic fascist dictator, and my word is gospel.

00:02:22.000 Everything I say goes. My word is infallible, you know, and I must be obeyed, always, upon penalty

00:02:30.700 of death. So that makes me, you know, sort of a trusted advisor and someone whose advice you can

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00:02:56.480 You can send it to mattwalshshow at gmail.com. If you have any kind of question, anything at all,

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00:03:21.800 the show and impart my infallible decree upon your dilemma. Okay. It will perhaps not surprise you to

00:03:33.060 learn that our fearless leaders in government who have shut down nearly every aspect of our daily

00:03:38.420 lives are not terribly interested in following their own orders. Mayor Bill de Blasio, just as one

00:03:45.840 example, you may recall that he, a couple of weeks ago, was working out still at a gym. He was going

00:03:52.180 to a gym to work out. Everyone else was told to stay inside. And if you want to work out, you know,

00:03:56.260 you could do crunches or pushups or something, but no, he had to go work out in a gym. And then

00:04:01.360 this week, it turns out after getting criticism for that, Mayor de Blasio stopped going to the gym,

00:04:08.060 but he has decided to replace the gym with instead going to walk in a park each day.

00:04:15.780 And the problem there is that the park is 11 miles from his house. Now, why can't he walk

00:04:21.580 around his house around where he actually lives? Or I'm sure there's a park closer to his house

00:04:27.420 that he could work or a treadmill. I'm sure he has a treadmill, but no, he says that, uh, he was asked

00:04:33.760 about this and he said that he needs to go to this particular park and walk because it helps him be

00:04:39.600 effective. Now I'm almost tempted to say that if this is his version of effective, then he should

00:04:47.900 probably keep doing the walks because I'd hate to see him ineffective. If this is what he looks like

00:04:54.380 effective, then can you only imagine, can you imagine how downright catastrophic his ineffective

00:05:00.300 must be? But of course, whether he needs it, quote unquote, or not, um, is irrelevant because everybody

00:05:07.820 else is told not to drive those kinds of distances for non-essential reasons. In most of the states and

00:05:14.880 cities that are locked down, uh, you can't drive 11 miles to go to a park. If they find out you're

00:05:21.120 doing that, you're going to be in trouble. And then we get to the mayor of Chicago. She has, like 0.75

00:05:27.980 most other mayors around the country, put her city on lockdown as well, of course, to close non-essential 0.90

00:05:32.320 businesses, quote unquote, non-essential businesses. She's even told her residents how long they're allowed

00:05:37.720 to spend outside and for what reasons they're permitted to be outside. So she has said that,

00:05:44.260 uh, that, you know, be outside is not for five K's. So if you're running five K five kilometers,

00:05:52.220 it's not for that. So she, she's telling her residents what the outside is for outdoors is for

00:05:59.140 a certain purpose. And she'll tell you what that purpose is. This is how long you're permitted to walk

00:06:05.040 and no longer. Now, as part of this shutdown, obviously hair salons are closed and residents

00:06:11.480 are forbidden from getting a professional haircut. And if you are a professional hairstylist or a

00:06:16.940 barber or something, you're forbidden, forbidden from, from operating your business. But guess what

00:06:22.060 mayor Lightfoot did? That's right. She went and got her haircut this weekend and here she is,

00:06:29.020 uh, justifying that decision. Listen, I'm the public face of the city. I'm on national media

00:06:36.060 and I'm out in the public eye and you know, I'm, I'm, I'm a person who I take my personal hygiene

00:06:43.220 very seriously. As I said, I felt like I needed to, um, have a haircut. I'm not able to do that

00:06:49.520 myself. And so I got a haircut. Um, you want to talk more about that? You really got to love that

00:06:55.660 note of indignation at the end there where she says, you want, you want to keep talking about

00:07:00.660 this? You really want it? You want to talk about this? Really? This is what you want to talk about?

00:07:04.980 You're worried about my haircuts. So she's trying to get indignant about it. Meanwhile,

00:07:09.240 uh, if you were caught at a barbershop getting a haircut in Chicago, you could be arrested and the,

00:07:15.500 and the person cutting your hair could be arrested. So that's what happens if you're,

00:07:20.500 if you get your haircut, but if she gets her haircut, she doesn't even want to talk about it.

00:07:23.340 It's such a silly thing to even talk about. Why are we talking about this? Yeah, I've only shut

00:07:27.840 down every hair salon in the, in the city forcibly. And if any of them are caught open,

00:07:32.120 uh, then I'm going to send the Calvary out and there's going to be a rest made, but no,

00:07:35.900 don't ask me about that. Why? This is, this is silly. By the way, here's a, here's a PSA she did

00:07:41.640 a couple of weeks ago, telling people all the things that they don't need to do. And there's one

00:07:46.260 thing in particular that she mentions that I think is, is, is, is of note now. Uh, listen to this.

00:07:50.700 The data shows that social distancing works. Please pay attention, stay home, save lives.

00:08:00.300 Here's what's up. If I make this shot, you got to stay home.

00:08:19.020 Debbie, getting your roots done is not essential. Your dog doesn't need to see its friends. You can

00:08:38.240 work on your jump shot inside. Yeah. Just a cute little stylish, relatable PSA of, of the, the,

00:08:48.160 the mayor telling you all the things you'll be arrested if you do, but it's okay because you

00:08:52.720 see the thing where she took the, the, the, with the basketball hoop. Oh, that was funny. That was

00:08:58.260 cute. That was nice. It makes it okay. Everything that she's saying is okay. Then we wouldn't want to

00:09:02.380 question it, but she does say getting your roots done is not essential. So getting your roots done is

00:09:07.760 not essential, but getting your haircut for a TV appearance is, that doesn't make a lot of sense.

00:09:13.820 But of course the answer is that her haircut is essential because she's important. 0.90

00:09:18.680 Yours is not essential because you're a peon. In fact, listen to the reasoning she gave. She said,

00:09:25.000 I'm someone who takes hygiene very seriously. Think about that justification. Well, I take hygiene

00:09:33.680 very seriously. Okay. And the rest of us don't. Are you saying that all the rest of the people in

00:09:39.320 Chicago don't take hygiene seriously? Now I've been to Chicago and I can say that some of them

00:09:44.460 clearly don't, but, uh, but, but still, what, what, what is the insinuation here? That she takes

00:09:51.440 hygiene seriously, but the unwashed masses don't. So she's saying you guys can all be dirty and unkempt

00:09:58.680 because you're the peasants. I, on the other hand, am on television, national television,

00:10:05.200 for God's sake. What do you want me to do? I would tend to think that actually, uh, appearing on TV

00:10:12.780 as the mayor with uncut hair would be a great example to set. The fact that she's on TV, I would 0.93

00:10:20.240 say is all the more reason not to get your haircut so that you can show all the, all the good people of

00:10:26.280 your town that you are following your own rules. So we think what's a, what, what, what's if you're

00:10:31.900 in Chicago and you're watching TV and you see the mayor on TV, what is more important for you to see

00:10:37.380 for you to see her with a freshly cut hair or for you to see that she's following her own rules? 1.00

00:10:44.260 What is better leadership? What's something as a, as a citizen that you would more like to see? I

00:10:50.220 think probably you want to see the mayor following her own rules, but here's the really frustrating 0.98

00:10:55.260 thing that the excuses that are given by these mayors for what they're doing, the excuses are

00:11:02.920 actually completely legitimate in a vacuum. I mean, uh, without context, they're legit. De Blasio says

00:11:10.560 he wants, he likes to go to a park and walk and it's something he needs to do, uh, for his physical

00:11:16.020 and psychological health. And it helps him be effective and never mind the fact that he's not

00:11:20.320 effective, but, but still, uh, and I get that. The mayor of Chicago says, look, I need a haircut.

00:11:27.080 Um, I like to take care of my appearance. I'm in the public eye and I don't want to, I don't want

00:11:31.920 to come off like a slob. And, and she also, she stipulated that the hairstylist was wearing a mask 0.72

00:11:38.880 again in a vacuum. That reasoning is perfectly coherent and perfectly understandable.

00:11:45.040 Yeah. Okay. I understand. Yeah, I get that. The problem though, is that the reasoning only applies

00:11:51.440 to them and nobody else. That's, that's the issue because that reasoning makes a lot of sense for

00:11:59.060 them. It would also make a lot of sense for everybody else. The way they're operating in their

00:12:07.620 personal lives is exactly what the policy should be. So there's the frustration.

00:12:16.200 Yes, that's exactly it. There's no reason why you can't go 11 miles and walk around a park.

00:12:23.100 There's no reason why de Blasio can't do it. There's no reason why anybody else can't do it.

00:12:28.460 And yeah, you know what? If you want to get your haircut and, uh, you're, you're both practicing

00:12:32.540 good hygiene, you're washing your hands, the hairstylist washes her hands and she's wearing a 0.80

00:12:37.480 mask. Maybe you wear a mask too. Um, uh, it's, it's probably okay. What, what, what are the chances?

00:12:48.440 What are the, what are the chances of, uh, of the virus being passed? I asked, I asked this exact

00:12:52.880 question before. What are the chances of the virus being passed between two people? Let's say a barber

00:12:59.900 and a guy getting his haircut. If both of them wearing masks, both of them wash their hands and both

00:13:07.020 are not showing symptoms. And I know that you can still pass the virus when you're not showing

00:13:10.800 symptoms, but that is still something that lowers the probability, right? So if you've got all those

00:13:16.380 things working in your favor, what's the chance that you're still going to pass the virus? It's not

00:13:20.360 non-existent, but I would think it's pretty negligible. And the mayor of Chicago must think

00:13:25.880 that it's negligible. Otherwise she wouldn't have done it. So this is the point that a lot of us have

00:13:31.660 been making the way, the way that these people are operating. That's exactly what the rest of us

00:13:36.560 should be able to do. That's the point. Just taking reasonable precautions. But otherwise,

00:13:42.060 if you're asymptomatic and if you don't have preexisting conditions, and if you're not elderly,

00:13:47.000 go about your life while taking those precautions that may include even something like wearing a mask.

00:13:52.940 That's what these people are doing. Why can't we?

00:13:55.060 That would be reasonable. And you can keep the economy going.

00:14:02.420 Now, all this stuff we hear from the mayor of Chicago, these other mayors about stay home and

00:14:07.100 save lives. And they're saying that if you go out and do something like get a haircut,

00:14:10.960 that you're putting people's lives at risk. You may be directly responsible for killing people.

00:14:16.200 Well, then she goes and gets her haircut. So either she's okay with killing people, 0.99

00:14:21.120 either she really believes that you might kill someone by getting your haircut, 0.94

00:14:24.360 and yet she did it anyway. So she's a sociopath, in which case she's not fit for office. Or she 1.00

00:14:29.420 doesn't really believe that. And she knows that, look, if you're taking precautions, you're not

00:14:33.840 a serial killer because you leave your house. I'm thinking it's probably the latter.

00:14:43.020 In which case, a lot of the things that she's saying, she doesn't really believe,

00:14:46.660 but she's saying in any way to control people.

00:14:50.860 These are the supposedly, they believe, the noble lies, quote unquote noble,

00:14:59.080 that they're telling the public for our own good.

00:15:02.740 It's just like the thing with the mask. The CDC and who, and even the surgeon general

00:15:10.120 told us weeks ago that masks are ineffective. And that was a lie. The only reason they said it was

00:15:16.840 for our own good, because they knew that we're stupid. And if they tell us that masks are effective, 1.00

00:15:22.020 we're going to run out and buy masks. And there's not going to be any available

00:15:24.580 for medical professionals. Just a straight up lie, but for our own good.

00:15:31.540 How many other lies are they telling us for our own good?

00:15:35.680 The lie that if you drive too far and go walk around at a park, or if you're, you know,

00:15:42.600 if you're going about your daily life, but wearing a mask, you're putting lives at risk or whatever.

00:15:46.680 Apparently, they don't really believe that.

00:15:48.080 Now, if you don't think that what we're seeing here is a power trip and more about control

00:15:56.200 than about safety and about saving lives, and I don't know what could convince you at this point.

00:16:01.640 That is exceedingly clear. Yet, I still talk to people all the time who are skeptical of that.

00:16:08.000 You tell them that these politicians and bureaucrats are on a power trip,

00:16:13.200 and they'll say, no, no, no, they're just, they're trying to help us. These are good people.

00:16:18.080 They're saving our lives. We should be grateful to them.

00:16:24.420 I can't imagine being that ignorant and dense and gullible. 0.99

00:16:30.920 But it's, it's, of course, that's going to happen, right? Of course, it's going to be a power trip. 0.99

00:16:35.180 When you give people this kind of control and power, the majority of people will go insane with it.

00:16:42.160 Think about the amount of power these mayors have right now over every aspect of your life.

00:16:49.080 Down to telling you how long you're allowed to be outside when you exit your home.

00:16:53.920 That's an incredible amount of power. And unless you are a person of, of, of great integrity and

00:17:01.980 humility, it's going to go to your head and you're going to become a petty tyrant like these people

00:17:06.280 have. And we know that Mayor Lightfoot and Mayor de Blasio and a lot of the other ones,

00:17:11.060 they certainly are not people of great integrity and humility. That much is clear.

00:17:14.920 All right, let's move on to headlines. At the White House press briefing yesterday,

00:17:19.020 Dr. Birx made an interesting admission. I thought this was really worth paying attention to. Listen to

00:17:25.020 this. So I think in this country, we've taken a very liberal approach to mortality. And I think

00:17:32.380 the reporting here has been pretty straightforward over the last five to six weeks. Prior to that,

00:17:39.760 when there wasn't testing in January and February, that's a very different situation and unknown.

00:17:47.080 There are other countries that if you had a pre-existing condition, and let's say the virus

00:17:54.420 called you to go to the ICU and then have a heart or kidney problem, some countries are recording that

00:18:01.500 as a heart issue or a kidney issue and not a COVID-19 death. Right now, we're still recording it. And we'll,

00:18:11.760 I mean, the great thing about having forms that come in and a form that has the ability to market

00:18:18.460 as COVID-19 infection, the intent is right now that those, if someone dies with COVID-19, we are

00:18:26.420 counting that as a COVID-19 death. A liberal approach to mortality. Okay. So she says, and I want to get

00:18:35.960 the exact quote, right? She says, if someone dies with COVID-19, we are counting that as a COVID-19

00:18:42.260 death. The problem with that should be obvious. That's her exact quote. That's what she said.

00:18:48.840 The problem is that just because someone has a virus and then dies doesn't mean that they died of the

00:18:55.220 virus. And that's just like with anything else. If somebody dies and it turns out they had pancreatic

00:19:01.860 cancer, doesn't necessarily mean they died of the cancer. They could have died of something else.

00:19:07.240 They could have died of the cancer, but doesn't mean they did automatically.

00:19:12.860 And considering that so many of the COVID-19 deaths, the vast majority of fact are people

00:19:17.320 with preexisting conditions. You have to wonder how many of them died from the virus as opposed to

00:19:22.140 merely with the virus. And what she's telling us plain as day is that they're not making a distinction

00:19:28.460 in this country. Anyway, we're not making a distinction between dying with the virus and

00:19:33.620 dying from the virus, even though there is a very, very clear and important distinction.

00:19:39.760 Number two, a father in Colorado was playing t-ball with his daughter in a park and wound up getting

00:19:44.480 handcuffed and arrested for it. Supposedly, he was violating social distancing. Despite

00:19:50.240 being with his own family in apparently an empty park, playing t-ball, they were arrested. So this

00:20:00.280 is where we are now. A man being cuffed in front of a six-year-old daughter, put in a squad car.

00:20:06.080 Here's the report done by Fox 31 in Denver. Watch.

00:20:08.820 Matt Mooney says his family just wanted some fresh air. So they went to an open space to play some

00:20:13.340 t-ball, never guessing it would land him in the back of a police cruiser. Now he wants a public

00:20:18.460 apology. Brighton police are apparently arresting a dad for throwing a ball to his daughter.

00:20:24.700 It was a former city council member who could not believe what he was recording.

00:20:28.340 In a park of about, I don't know, 30, 40 acres. But apparently that is not allowed by Brighton.

00:20:36.540 Well, if you don't give us your information, we're going to put you in handcuffs in front

00:20:40.460 of your six-year-old daughter. Matt Mooney is the 33-year-old dad who assured his daughter

00:20:44.460 they were doing nothing wrong when police approached and told them they were violating the state's

00:20:49.660 social distancing guideline. She's like, Daddy, I don't want you to get arrested. And, you know,

00:20:53.880 at this point, I'm thinking, there's no way they're going to arrest me. You know, there's no way.

00:20:57.240 This is insane. And, you know, so I'm telling her, I'm like, don't worry, Daddy's not going to get

00:21:02.060 arrested. You know, I've done nothing wrong. You know, don't worry about it. And then they arrest me.

00:21:06.000 The sign at Donaldson Park says closed. But in smaller print says in groups of no more than

00:21:11.520 four persons, parks remain open for walking, hiking, biking, running, and similar activities.

00:21:17.920 Matt was just there with his wife and six-year-old. He says it was the officers

00:21:21.720 who were violating social distancing guidelines.

00:21:24.380 During this whole contact, you know, none of the officers had masks on. None of them had

00:21:28.220 gloves on. You know, and they're in my face, handcuffing me. They're touching me.

00:21:33.060 Now, first of all, this isn't really the most important point here, but what the hell kind

00:21:36.100 of camera was he recording on? What, how do you even get footage like that these days?

00:21:42.520 And was he jumping around on a trampoline while he was recording it?

00:21:46.480 It was just the grainiest and jumpiest footage of something I've seen in a long time.

00:21:50.980 It looked like battlefield footage from, from like World War I or something.

00:21:55.940 Dude, dude's out there with a, with a video camera from 1917.

00:21:58.880 1917. I guess he got it from the same store that all the people who, uh, have spotted Bigfoot

00:22:04.080 get their, get their cameras. Um, but anyway, that's not the point. Uh, the, the excuse you'll

00:22:10.200 hear is that the guy was arrested, uh, not because he was playing T-ball in a park, but because he,

00:22:18.280 which, which it even said there in the, in the package that that's, you're allowed to do that.

00:22:22.500 Even by the draconian laws that they've put in place there in Colorado, you're still allowed

00:22:27.960 to go to a park as long as you don't have more than four people and you're doing some approved

00:22:31.600 activity, which it would seem that, you know, a guy going with his daughter. And I think it was

00:22:35.140 the mom was there playing T-ball would be a fine activity. So he wasn't actually arrested for that.

00:22:41.700 He was arrested because he wouldn't show his ID. A cop came up to him and asked for his ID and he

00:22:46.560 wouldn't provide his ID. But why should he have to give his ID when he's in a park playing with his

00:22:53.040 daughter? Why would a cop even ask for it? What does your ID have to do with anything? Do you need

00:22:58.820 a license to play in a park with your daughter? What are you asking for the license in the first

00:23:03.220 place? And in America, it's supposed to be that a cop needs to have a reason to ask you for something

00:23:09.040 like that. I mean, what is it? Basically it's now a cop is coming up and demanding to see

00:23:16.500 your papers. That's essentially what this is. Number three, here's the headline from the New

00:23:22.460 York Times. It says environmentalists are using these strange times to make a point.

00:23:27.360 Pollution is not something that can't be reversed. We've just reversed it. And I bring this to your

00:23:34.240 attention again, only as further support for the point that I was making a couple of weeks ago and

00:23:39.600 that many people have made. That this, what we're seeing now is setting a precedent that the left is

00:23:48.500 absolutely going to use. And they are advertising the fact that they're going to use it.

00:23:55.940 And so here they're saying, look, we can stop pollution. Of course, all you have to do to cut back

00:24:02.160 on pollution is just to grind the global economy to a halt and send millions of people plunging into

00:24:08.200 destitution, but it can be done apparently. So look out for the next democratic administration.

00:24:17.600 Number four, the White House is now saying that it would like to start reopening the economy

00:24:21.100 in four to eight weeks is what they're saying. Now it's, of course, there's a lot of vagueness as

00:24:27.180 usual, and it's indicated that it could be earlier than that. It could be later than that. Who knows?

00:24:33.940 But they're shooting for four to eight weeks. Of course, the problem is four to eight weeks.

00:24:39.660 If you try to reopen the economy in four to eight weeks, there's not going to be an economy to reopen.

00:24:45.500 That is much too far in the future. That is way too long. It's already been too long.

00:24:51.980 And this vagueness, again, this vagueness, the ambiguity is a big part of the problem.

00:25:02.960 It's, you just, you can't do this. You can't put people's lives on hold indefinitely and not tell

00:25:09.380 them when it's going to be over. Businesses need to plan ahead if they have any chance of surviving.

00:25:16.880 Families need to be able to plan ahead and budget. And they need to know, if you've got a family without

00:25:21.400 an income right now, they need to know, how long am I going to be without an income? I might have

00:25:25.400 some savings, but I got to know how I'm rationing this thing out. Number five, legendary songwriter

00:25:31.360 John Prine died at the age of 73 from, we're told, according to reports, complications related to

00:25:37.120 coronavirus. This one I'm pretty broken up about, personally. John Prine has been one of my favorite

00:25:44.320 artists, just a brilliant songwriter. He has this, he had this incredible ability to tell stories

00:25:50.380 through song. But what was unique about John Prine, and there's a startling number of people

00:25:58.020 I discovered last night, and I was talking about this online, startling number of people who've

00:26:02.260 never heard of John Prine. I don't know how you, but if that's the case, go look him up.

00:26:07.440 He tells, he's a great storyteller through song, but what was unique is that he would tell other

00:26:12.720 people's stories, much of the time. Music today often rears much more towards the self-referential,

00:26:20.040 where the artist is constantly talking about himself, which there's not anything wrong with

00:26:25.620 that necessarily, but I think most of John Prine's greatest songs were about other people.

00:26:30.440 So he was, I suppose, America's most empathetic songwriter, you might say. Angel from Montgomery,

00:26:37.340 probably his most well-known song, beautiful song. It's a song about an aging woman in a

00:26:41.160 loveless marriage. He wrote that, despite not being a woman himself, and he wrote that as a

00:26:45.380 young man. Hello in There is a song about the elderly, another beautiful song, and about the

00:26:51.940 loneliness of aging, but he wrote that when he was in, I think, his 20s. A song called Sam Stone,

00:26:57.800 another great song. John Prine's song, a song about a drug-addicted veteran. So just songs with depth and

00:27:03.980 meaning, very lyrical. And I would put John Prine probably above Bob Dylan as a personal preference.

00:27:13.740 Certainly, I would say John Prine was writing great songs for longer than Bob Dylan has,

00:27:21.140 again, in my opinion. Number six, a bonus story, just to lighten things up a little bit. Some,

00:27:26.780 just to give us something to point and laugh at, because it's been pretty heavy up until now. So some

00:27:30.040 Democrats in Congress have been trying to set a good example, walking around in masks. Okay,

00:27:36.360 good for them. The only problem is that, well, look at these pictures here. We've got Chuck Schumer

00:27:41.780 and Sheila Jackson Lee wearing masks. What's the problem here with the way they're wearing them? 0.99

00:27:48.320 There seems to be a conceptual problem. They seem to be having an issue with the very concept of the

00:27:53.100 mask. Covering... Sorry, I missed that. Could you say it again, please? Why is Siri talking to me?

00:28:01.740 Hold on. What do you want, Siri? Interesting question. Siri, what do you want? Why are you talking to me?

00:28:12.420 Are we all going to die, Siri? Siri? Siri! Okay. That was creepy. They're listening.

00:28:22.280 She's listening. She's listening to every word I say. Anyway, we're worried. Okay, so yeah,

00:28:28.600 they don't know how to wear masks. They're leaving the nose uncovered, but the mouth... It's kind of

00:28:33.320 like a football player wearing a face mask, but no helmet. Kind of defeats the purpose. Let's go to

00:28:41.220 your daily cancellation. This will be a quick one. People's Daily is a propaganda outfit for the

00:28:46.180 Chinese government, and it poses as a news outlet, of course, as all propaganda outfits do.

00:28:52.280 Yesterday, it posted a video of... I think this video deserves to be mentioned in the dictionary

00:29:02.420 under tone deaf, because look at this screenshot. They've deleted it, apparently. I'm just discovering.

00:29:09.880 So they took it down, but here's a screenshot. It says, have a taste of Wuhan.

00:29:16.220 Let these mouth-watering specialties in Wuhan satisfy your stomach. A taste of Wuhan. Mouth-watering

00:29:24.760 specials. Yes, yes, we've had a taste of Wuhan all right. We've had quite enough of Wuhan. I think

00:29:31.520 the entire world has. What do you think, though? You see that dish there. What is that dish in the

00:29:38.440 picture? Because it's got some sort of dark black substance. I'm thinking it looks maybe like a ground

00:29:49.020 bat over pasta with scallions, which is a pretty good dish, by the way. Definitely a staple in my

00:29:55.140 house. Kind of a comfort food. I grew up with it. Though I do prefer usually my bat to be seared in a

00:30:03.040 cast iron skillet and then just lightly baked. So what you're going for is that crispy crust of the

00:30:09.260 bat, and then inside you want a nice, medium-rare cook. That's how I prefer it. Really delicious.

00:30:15.480 But you know, if I'm going to cancel anyone for Chinese propaganda, actually, it shouldn't be a

00:30:19.700 Chinese propaganda outlet, because that's their job, right? Is to just do Chinese propaganda,

00:30:24.300 and so you can hardly blame them for it. But I think our media, our media doing propaganda for

00:30:32.180 the Chinese government, that's a much bigger problem. So for example, there are many examples

00:30:36.340 of this. Here's the latest, one of the most egregious. ABC News this morning posted a video

00:30:41.140 from China of a light show that the government put on to celebrate that they're opening Wuhan again.

00:30:48.580 And here's the video. This is a video that ABC News posted on their Twitter account. Watch.

00:31:02.180 Okay, so that is literal Chinese state propaganda that ABC News is passing along. They're not

00:31:19.940 reporting on it. They're not offering commentary on it. They're just passing it along like the Chinese 1.00

00:31:27.180 propaganda outlets in China do. The Chinese government comes up with the propaganda piece,

00:31:33.520 the video package, and they just assign it. They hand it out, and now even our media says,

00:31:38.620 okay, we'll go ahead and amplify that message for you. Absolutely despicable.

00:31:46.420 Let's move on to emails, and you can email the show. You've got to become a Daily Wire member.

00:31:50.180 If you're a Daily Wire member, you have access to the mailbag, and you can send your emails.

00:31:53.740 Um, and as always, I do enjoy emails telling me why I'm wrong about things

00:31:58.880 so that we can argue with each other, which is my favorite pastime. So I've got a why I'm wrong

00:32:04.660 email, but first, a couple others I want to read briefly. This is from Liz. It says,

00:32:08.480 I just wanted to say, I too suffer from the fear of elevators shooting out of the top of the building.

00:32:13.720 I was, I divulged that irrational fear of mine, uh, yesterday, and then immediately regretted

00:32:20.840 saying it out loud. Although I've gotten a few emails from people saying that they,

00:32:25.660 this is apparently a, a more common fear than I thought. Liz says, I was recently,

00:32:29.600 well, not too recently, in a hospital and needed to go to the top floor. Unbeknownst to me,

00:32:33.640 the attached parking garage was not as tall as the hospital itself. I get in the elevator,

00:32:37.700 one with a glass side that's exposed, uh, to said parking garage. As the elevator climbed,

00:32:42.540 it began going above the parking garage, and I lost my mind. My brain ceased functioning,

00:32:47.140 and, and as I saw the parking garage get farther below me, I thought for sure my fear was coming

00:32:52.080 to fruition. Rest assured, the elevator stopped safely at the top of the hospital. Let me out,

00:32:56.860 and I haven't stepped foot on one since. I'm, I'm just glad to know I'm not alone, Liz.

00:33:03.720 So it's me, Liz. I think it was two other people that emailed and said they have the same fear.

00:33:08.920 Not of the, I never worry about an elevator crashing. That would be way too reasonable to

00:33:13.880 worry about that. My, my worry is that something malfunctioned, it just blasts out the top of the

00:33:18.840 building. This is from Chad. It says, thank you for bringing up the article about the virus reactivating

00:33:25.680 and how the science does not support this. I am a biochemist in Michigan that predominantly studies

00:33:31.420 pediatric cancer. However, with the current situation, the local hospital system has elicited

00:33:35.900 support from the university I work for to do literature reviews for scientific papers involving

00:33:41.460 COVID-19 so as to help emphasize what literature should be reviewed by local clinicians as they

00:33:48.160 prepare to care for infected patients. I was eager to be involved in the process in a, in a, to in a

00:33:53.440 small way contribute in helping the healthcare workers that are sacrificing every day to help

00:33:57.360 those that are sick. On a side note, my sister's a nurse in Detroit and my niece is a nurse in the

00:34:02.480 Bronx. So from conversations with them, I am very aware of the sacrifices they're making while doing

00:34:07.000 these literature reviews. I've been sadly disappointed in the poor level of science that is being

00:34:11.300 exhibited in most of these articles. I know this pandemic is new and evolving very quickly and

00:34:16.700 there's a need to get literature out quickly, but I have found that most articles are either simply

00:34:20.620 opinion pieces or straight propaganda from Chinese scientists proclaiming how well their country

00:34:25.800 handled the situation. Having done science for close to 20 years, I would normally shrug this off

00:34:30.440 as papers that were submitted to low quality journals. However, I've noticed that even high quality

00:34:34.720 journals such as the New England Journal of Medicine and Nature have published papers that are low in

00:34:39.180 quality and scientific value. I am saddened that the scientific community seems to be divulging into

00:34:44.020 propaganda. Maybe I am naive and believing this is only happening now. As scientists, we often live

00:34:49.700 in a bubble of our specific field and a certain set of journals. Anyway, long story short, I'm grateful

00:34:54.800 that you're using the platform to inform others to be more skeptical of the literature that is being

00:34:58.240 presented to us. Well, Chad, I appreciate that insight. That's, that's interesting to hear from someone

00:35:03.560 with actual scientific expertise of which I have none myself. All right. Why I'm wrong. This is from

00:35:11.680 Tony says, Hey Matt, thanks for a great show. You always have interesting and unique perspectives. I was

00:35:17.140 listening to your recent all access live show and was a, which you can hear at 8 p.m. Eastern, 5 p.m.

00:35:24.420 Pacific every single day, all access live. And this is open to, if you're daily wire member, you don't have

00:35:30.280 to be an all access member for now. And we do these every day. Nice little, little bit of companionship, a way

00:35:36.560 of breaking up the isolation. So I did one on Monday. And one of the questions I was asked, it's just kind of a

00:35:42.780 back and forth Q&A type of thing. But one of the questions I was asked by somebody was, what do I think

00:35:48.620 are, is the best argument for God, for the existence of God? And I gave what I thought was the best and, and what I

00:35:57.720 thought were, I gave a few examples of arguments that I thought were not very persuasive. And, and I

00:36:04.980 said that I think the cosmological argument, the argument from first cause, you know, any version of

00:36:09.120 that, I find those to be unpersuasive arguments. Whereas the argument from consciousness, in my

00:36:14.420 opinion, is one of the best arguments for God. Okay. You said the cosmological argument was not a strong

00:36:20.040 argument when in fact it is generally cited as one of the strongest, if not the strongest argument for

00:36:24.060 God's existence by many Christian apologists. In response to your objections saying that the

00:36:28.560 universe can be eternal, I think you missed the point that the universe is in itself a physical

00:36:33.980 quantity. The universe is composed of time, space, and matter, which points to a timeless, spaceless,

00:36:39.380 and immaterial cause of the universe. Furthermore, if the universe somehow extended into the past forever,

00:36:44.940 we would never have arrived at this current moment. The idea of the eternal universe,

00:36:48.700 therefore, becomes nonsensical. And finally, all current scientific evidence points to a beginning of the

00:36:52.880 universe, i.e. the Big Bang Theory. Not to criticize you too much, but your argument from

00:36:57.340 consciousness didn't quite square with me either. Could you not say that we evolved to have a

00:37:01.380 consciousness to help us survive? I've read some things about how consciousness helps us run

00:37:06.040 simulations in our head, which ultimately help us to make better decisions. Looking at it this way,

00:37:11.080 couldn't an atheist easily say we evolved consciousness because it is beneficial to our

00:37:14.700 species? Of course, this would be to commit the genetic fallacy, but that's another story.

00:37:19.100 Thanks, Tony. Okay, Tony, well, I would say, yeah, I know that I'm taking the contrarian view here,

00:37:24.840 which probably shouldn't surprise you, and I'm playing devil's advocate, okay? So we're talking

00:37:28.320 about what I think is, just from my perspective, what are the best arguments for God? And I know

00:37:36.460 that there are some Christians, many Christians probably, who you talk to who would basically say

00:37:41.220 that every argument for the existence of God is great and persuasive and compelling and decisive.

00:37:45.300 But that's just, you know, that's obviously our bias talking, because some arguments are better

00:37:52.300 than others. And you say that the Christian apologists all say that this is a really compelling

00:37:57.820 argument. Well, okay, but of course they're going to find it compelling. But when you're making an

00:38:03.840 argument, apologetic argument, you're not trying to convince Christian apologists, because they

00:38:08.900 already share your assumptions. There are certain basic assumptions we bring to the, obviously,

00:38:14.040 we have a certain worldview, we bring it to every discussion. And so if a certain argument

00:38:18.540 is compelling to people who share your basic assumptions, that doesn't necessarily mean it's

00:38:25.320 going to be compelling to people who don't share that assumption. And so I think it's interesting if

00:38:30.820 you can get an atheist, a thoughtful atheist who's going to be honest about it, and ask them what do

00:38:37.720 they think the strongest theistic arguments are. And I've heard, you know, many atheists give their

00:38:43.740 opinion on this. And you're not going to hear them say the cosmological argument. What they will say

00:38:48.760 oftentimes is a fine-tuning argument. That was, in fact, Christopher Hitchens said that he thinks

00:38:52.100 that's the strongest argument for theism. Which that doesn't mean that it's necessarily the best

00:38:58.160 argument just because Christopher Hitchens said it. But if someone who does not share your underlying

00:39:02.300 assumptions, even they say, okay, that's a pretty strong argument, then that should tell you something.

00:39:08.940 So there's that. In general, though, with the cosmological argument, I think, okay, here's the

00:39:15.800 basic problem I have with it. When you argue that, well, the universe had to have a beginning because

00:39:24.580 it's just, it's illogical, right, for something to have no beginning, for it to exist forever. So it had to

00:39:29.760 have some sort of cause, and then God is that cause. Well, it seems like what you're trying to do

00:39:36.240 is to say that it is illogical, it is a logical impossibility for something to have no cause or

00:39:44.920 no beginning. But if it is a logical impossibility, then that would also apply to God, right? Because

00:39:51.040 even God cannot do things that are logically impossible. God cannot make a rectangular square,

00:39:58.160 right? Or a circular triangle. It's a logical impossibility. It's nonsensical. So the whole

00:40:03.640 thing about can God make a boulder too heavy for him to lift? You know, that's, it's a logical

00:40:10.620 impossibility. And so sort of the answer is no. And that's, there's no real problem there saying no.

00:40:16.880 So it seems like the argument's trying to make a logical case, but then that would apply to God.

00:40:22.220 So what, if you say, well, you know, something has to have a beginning, or, you know, something has to

00:40:29.440 have a beginning, and then that's, then God is the beginning of the universe, then of course the

00:40:34.840 atheist response is, well, then who started God or who caused God? And typically this is where most

00:40:41.340 theists will kind of scoff at that response and say, that's silly. It's actually not a silly response. 0.91

00:40:46.800 It's a, it's a totally legitimate, logical response to your argument, because you just said that

00:40:52.180 everything has to have a beginning. Well, God is something, isn't he? So it, it, it seems like it's

00:40:59.660 trying to make a logical argument that it then abandons when it comes to God, and that, and that

00:41:04.260 doesn't quite work. Also, look, you know, there are ways, atheists have ways around this. Well, they'll, 0.98

00:41:10.980 they'll say, yeah, well, we know that there was a big bang. We know that the observable universe has

00:41:16.700 a beginning, but we don't know what happened before then, and we also don't know, you know,

00:41:20.180 we could live in a multiverse. We could live in a, in a bubble universe where there are, there are

00:41:24.500 trillions, maybe infinite number of universes, and we're just living in one little, one little

00:41:29.020 section, one little bubble that started 14 billion years ago, but that doesn't mean that the entire

00:41:32.800 thing started 14 billion years ago. Maybe, you know, and maybe every black hole contains its own

00:41:39.600 universe. There's all kinds of maybes and what ifs, and that, all that sounds implausible. It sounds

00:41:44.360 implausible to me too, but it's not impossible logically. It could be true, and I think all the

00:41:54.180 atheist needs to do is, is, is, is say, is argue that it's at least possible that we live in an

00:42:00.180 eternal multiverse. That's a, it's a possible thing. It's not scientifically impossible, and if you

00:42:06.120 agree to that, which I think you have to, because it is scientifically possible, then it kind of destroys

00:42:10.400 that argument, I think. But, um, going to the argument for consciousness. Now, as I said, I think

00:42:16.240 that that is the strong, at least one of the strongest arguments for theism, along with the

00:42:21.660 fine-tuning argument, I think is strong, and there are others too. Uh, the argument for morality, I

00:42:26.600 think, is strong. But the consciousness argument, now you say the atheist response to that is, um,

00:42:32.460 is, well, you know, we, we would have evolved consciousness because it's very useful. Well, yeah,

00:42:37.940 I could see how consciousness is useful, but this is not a question of why is consciousness

00:42:41.620 useful. It's, it's how could inanimate matter first become animate, become life, and then

00:42:49.520 develop somehow, um, a sense of its own self. Because on a, on a, on a, on a purely materialistic

00:42:59.740 basis, we are all just atoms, right? We're all just collections of atoms. So how could it be

00:43:05.860 that a collection of atoms could come together in a certain way to develop an experience, an

00:43:13.420 awareness of its own self? Uh, that to me seems like it is impossible, even almost a logical

00:43:20.720 impossibility. And so it demands some other kind of immaterial explanation, especially when

00:43:29.920 consciousness itself appears to be an immaterial thing. And so that, I would argue, gets us away

00:43:37.600 from, uh, or it pokes a huge hole in, at least, materialism. And now you've opened the door for

00:43:44.340 God. And that's why I think that's a compelling argument. But again, you know, I'm, I'm speaking

00:43:49.680 as someone, obviously, with a huge bias. So that's just from my, my own perspective. But

00:43:55.500 thanks for that, uh, email. Thanks for everybody for watching. Have a great day. God bless. Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - April 08, 2020

Ep. 462 - Rules For Thee, Not For Me

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