Ep. 468 - It’s Time To Re-Open
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Trump unveils his plan to reopen the economy, we take a look at it, and we analyze an extended five headlines including the Emperor of Michigan claiming that abortion is life-sustaining, and that s why they have to keep the abortion clinics open even during the shutdown. And also, a couple famous TV doctors have got themselves into hot water over comments they made about the coronavirus.
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Today on The Matt Walsh Show, Trump has unveiled his plan to reopen the economy.
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We'll take a look at it and we'll analyze. Also, an extended five headlines today,
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including the Emperor of Michigan claiming that abortion is life-sustaining, she said,
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and that's why they have to keep the abortion clinics open even during the shutdown.
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And also, a couple of famous TV doctors have got themselves into some hot water over comments they
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made about the coronavirus. But I think they're getting a raw deal. I think I'm going to defend
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both of them, which I wouldn't normally do with TV doctors, but I will here. And
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very good reason for that. And we'll talk about it. All of that coming up. But starting with,
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as I mentioned, President Trump yesterday unveiled his plan for getting the economy going again.
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So we're looking at a gradual process. And for most people, it won't start for a few weeks.
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And this really depends on the individual states and governors agreeing to it, which is another
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big part of this. Because despite what Trump has famously said about him having total control and
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power, of course, he doesn't really. So if they don't want to open, they're not going to.
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But he has the general outline. And I'll read, as reported by the AP, it's in three phases.
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Walsh, spelled B-A-M-B-E-E.com slash Walsh. Okay. Now, three phases of opening the economy,
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and we're not going to spend a lot of time on this because I want to get to the news segment. I've
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got a lot packed in there that I want to talk about. But reading from the AP report, this is
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in phase one, for instance, the plan recommends strict social distancing for all people in public.
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Gatherings larger than 10 people are to be avoided, and non-essential travel is discouraged. In phase
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two, people are encouraged to maximize social distancing and limit gatherings to no more than
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50 people unless precautionary measures are taken. Travel could resume. Phase three envisions a return
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to normalcy for most Americans with a focus on identification and isolation of any new infections.
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Trump said recent trends in some states were so positive that they could almost immediately begin
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taking the steps laid out in phase one. The guidelines recommend that states pass checkpoints
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that could look at new cases, testing, and surveillance data over the prior 14 days before
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advancing from one phase to the other. Governors of both parties make clear they will move at their
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own pace. All right. This raises a question that people who are still supporting the shutdowns have
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not provided a sufficient answer to, as far as I can tell. The reopening plan, you know, it sounds good to
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me, except for the timeline. I think it's way more drawn out than it needs to be. But the basic idea of
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being cautious as we open up the economy, we still have social distancing, you know, but we let people get
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back to their lives and everything. That's good. I like that. And this was always inevitable, right?
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It was always inevitable that we would open up the economy at some point, because we're not going to
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keep it closed forever. And that it was also inevitable that we would do it before there's a
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vaccine available. Because a vaccine, if one ever comes, and the way people talk about the vaccine,
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they talk about it as if it's an absolute definite that there will be one. There won't necessarily be
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one. You know, there are plenty of contagious diseases out there that we don't have vaccines
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for. So that by no means is a guarantee. But even if one does come, and if you listen to the
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doctors, they sound pretty confident that there will be one. So okay, fine. But I haven't heard
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anybody who knows what they're talking about, say that they think the vaccine will be ready within a
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year, like less than 12 months. Okay, you don't turn around vaccines that quickly. So we're talking
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about a year or more, possibly a lot more. So the idea that we would stay locked down that entire time
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for over a year is obviously insane. We can't do it. It's not possible. Society would be totally
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destroyed in the meantime. And besides, people won't do it anyway. So they're just not going to,
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and they shouldn't. They won't comply. It's not going to happen. You cannot keep people locked in
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their homes for a year. Now, what that means is, what we're doing right now, and there are plenty of
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Trump's critics that are going crazy about this, that he wants to reopen the economy.
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Okay, again, this was going to happen. Did you want to never open it? I mean, obviously,
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we're going to do this. And if we're opening before the vaccine, which we have to do,
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it means you're going to be opening the economy when the virus is still out there. Not just out there,
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but more widely spread now than it was before the shutdown started. And you could say that the
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curve is flattened. Okay, well, the curve doesn't magically stay flattened forever. Just because you
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flatten a curve once, I'm not an epidemiologist, but I'm pretty sure that just because you flatten
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a curve once doesn't mean that it's going to stay flattened forever. The virus isn't going to say to
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itself, okay, they beat us, folks. Let's pack it in and go home. It doesn't usually work that way.
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Now, viruses can, if you listen to what Dr. Fauci said, he was on Fox News link last night,
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and he was asked about SARS, for example. And he said that SARS basically disappeared on its own.
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Okay, but he's the one saying that he doesn't think that's going to happen with this.
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So it's still going to be out there without a vaccine when we open the economy. There are two ways
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this can go in that case. Either we open the economy, and people are smart, and precautions are
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taken, and we still have social distancing, and we still keep vulnerable populations maybe isolated
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for a time. I mean, we're not going to throw open the doors of the nursing homes right away. I don't
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think anyone is advocating that. That would be crazy to do. We use masks in certain situations
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and in certain industries. So maybe we do that. That's one scenario where we do that, and we avoid
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the worst-case scenario of the virus spreading uncontrollably, many thousands more dying, and so on.
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Or the other possibility is that we don't do that, that we're not smart, and that, you know,
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people just go right back to exactly how they were living before. No social distancing. They don't
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take precautions. They don't practice good hygiene. They're not washing their hands. They're going to
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visit nursing homes. They're never wearing masks, and so on and so on. And then the virus picks up
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again, and then we have, you know, the worst case scenario with the death toll, and everything
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comes to fruition. But here's the thing. If the latter occurs, the bad scenario, then it would seem that
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the shutdowns were pointless. All they did was make us go broke before killing all those people.
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All we will have done in that case is put off the bloodbath, but the bloodbath still happens.
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So I'm not sure what the point was in the delay. You're not really saving lives. In this case,
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the we're saving lives things goes out the window. You didn't save any lives. All you did was
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temporarily and for a very short time delay those lives being taken. And for that delay of a month
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or two, we have to pay with a great depression. And that, to me, just seems crazy. Now, if the
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former scenario plays out, which I'm very hopeful that, in fact, this will be what happens,
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the optimistic scenario where we open the economy, get people back to work, get people back to their
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lives, but we still social distance, we take precautions, people are smart about it, and
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worst case is avoided in that scenario, then it would seem that even then, the shutdowns also
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proved to be pointless because we could have done that to begin with. So when I read about phase one
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and phase two of opening the economy, the first thing I think is, why didn't we just do that to
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start with? We could have done that in the beginning. Again, if it works when we reopen the
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economy, then it would have worked to begin with. And if it doesn't work, then we were always screwed
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to begin with anyway, unless we stayed shut down until the vaccine, which, again, we cannot do.
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So either way, it would seem to me, if we're opening up when the virus still exists and there's no
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vaccine, then the shutdown proves pointless. And certainly the we're saving lives thing is moot.
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This isn't about saving lives, but merely at most delaying the death for a few weeks,
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which is certainly not the same as preventing it, which is why now, and they're not going to say,
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they're not going to admit that this is what they're doing. But now what they're doing is
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they're moving the goalposts. We are watching in real time as the goalposts are uprooted and moved
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all the way across the field because we were originally told we're saving millions of lives
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and so on. Well, now the reality is this is an inescapable reality that we have to open the
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economy. The virus is still going to be there. So now they're saying, well, no, okay, maybe we didn't
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save lives, but we gave ourselves some time. We were able to study the disease. We were able to learn
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about it. We were able to educate the public. I mean, even though the government originally was
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miseducating the public, telling people, for example, not to wear masks. Okay. But that's what
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they're saying now. That's a very different thing from saving millions of lives. Okay. Considering the
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cost. There there's, there's, we're going to pay with an economic collapse for the sake of delay
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and learning and educating. Now I think learning and educating is a good thing, but is it worth an
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economic collapse? That's, that's a, that's a very different argument than we're saving millions of
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lives. But what we've seen is they've, they've just quietly the, you know, the people in this camp
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have quietly abandoned that and moved on to this other justification. And yet they'll still continue
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by saying that if you want to reopen the economy you're, you're, you know, you're, you're in favor
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of, of, of killing millions of people. So they still stay with that narrative. But if you listen to
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the justifications they're given, they've completely shifted the goalposts. All right. I want to move on
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to headlines a little bit earlier than usual. Um, starting with this number one, Emperor Whitmer of
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Michigan was on David Axelrod's podcast. She's been all over the media, you know, all over all the
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cable news shows. She's been on Comedy Central. Uh, she's, uh, now she's running through all the
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podcasts. She's just, she's, she's loving the attention. You can tell she loves it. And on the show,
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she was asked about her decision to keep abortion clinics open, even while she closes all these other
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things down. And this is the reasoning that she provided. As we speak, uh, in Texas and a couple
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of other States, I think Ohio may be another, uh, the state has asked to suspend abortion services
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as part of this COVID-19 protocol. Uh, this is probably going to go to the Supreme court.
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What, what, what is your reaction to that? You're a governor. You have to make these decisions as well.
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There are other procedures that have been suspended. You know, we, we stopped elective
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surgeries here in Michigan. And some people have tried to say that that type of a, um, procedure
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is considered the same. And that's ridiculous. Um, you know, a woman's healthcare, her whole future,
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her ability to decide if, and when she starts a family is, is, um, not an election. It is a
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fundamental to her life. Uh, it is life sustaining and it's something that, um, government should not
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be getting in the, in the middle of life sustaining, she says. So according to the emperor of Michigan
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abortion, that is the direct and intentional destruction of human life is life sustaining.
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Meanwhile, planting seeds or visiting your relatives is life threatening. So directly taking human life is
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life sustaining, planting a seed in your, in an, in an indoor planter is life threatening. Okay.
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Number two, Dr. Phil has gotten himself into a lot of trouble for something he said on Fox news a couple
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of days ago, lots of backlash over this. 250 people a year die from poverty. And the poverty line is
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getting such that more and more people are going to fall below that because the economy is crashing
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around us. And they're doing that because people are dying from the Corona virus. I get that. But
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look, the fact of the matter is we have people dying. 45,000 people a year die from automobile
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accidents, 480,000 from cigarettes, 360,000 a year from swimming pools, but we don't shut the country
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down for that. But yet we're doing it for this. And the fallout is going to last for years because
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people's lives are being destroyed. First of all, Dr. Phil really needs to get himself some
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professional lighting in his office there, uh, or his study because the lighting just makes him look
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undead. But anyway, a few other things, more importantly, as you can imagine, obviously the
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backlash he's getting here is, is intense. And on the critical side of it, I do have to say that
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first of all, I agree with the critics on a few points. The first one being 360,000 people a year
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definitely don't die from swimming pools. Okay. It's not 360,000. That would be like the,
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that's the entire population of Lexington, Kentucky drowning in a swimming pool every single year.
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And that's not the case. I think he probably, I haven't looked up the number myself. What he,
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what he probably did is he added a zero. And so I'm thinking the real numbers probably like 3,600
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or something like that. Um, also I agree with the people asking why Dr. Phil is being brought on Fox
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News to talk about the virus in the first place. You know, we don't really need to hear from TV
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doctors on this thing at all. And besides Dr. Phil isn't even that kind of doctor. He's not a medical
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doctor. Now, if you want to talk to him about the psychological effects of the shutdown, uh, that
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could be interesting. Maybe they did talk about that, but to get him pontificating on these other
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things, uh, it just, it's a, it's a little bit embarrassing, but in his defense, the point he's making
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here is actually perfectly reasonable. And it's a point that one side of the discussion is just
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utterly determined to misinterpret, mischaracterize, misconstrue. The one thing they won't do is
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actually listen to the point being made and respond to it. Yes. Swimming pools are not the
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same as a virus. Swimming pool deaths are not contagious for one. Uh, and yes, many more people
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have died from the virus than have been, then we'll die in a swimming pool. Assuming the number
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isn't really 360,000, which I'm pretty sure it isn't. Uh, so yes, that's all true. That is true,
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but that's not the point. That is not the point of the comparison. The point is not to compare
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swimming pools to viruses, not the point. What Dr. Phil is trying to do here is make a point
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about the concept of shutting stuff down to save lives. That's all. And he's correctly saying that,
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hey, and this is, it's an interesting example when you think about it, because he's saying, hey,
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if we shut swimming pools down, if we ban them, which we could do, right? Um, there is no doubt that
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we would save lives and not a few, probably not 360,000, but we would probably save thousands of
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lives. Uh, there's no denying that nobody can deny that. Two things we could, every state in the union
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could pass a law banning swimming pools, both private swimming pools and public swimming pools
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that could happen. And if it did happen, you would save thousands of people who would have otherwise
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most, many of them children who would have otherwise, uh, drowned in this, in those pools,
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but we don't do that. We could do it. Uh, and, and it would save lives. We don't do it. Why
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in, in the case of swimming pools, what we're saying as a society, apparently is that the death,
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the swimming pools cause is a price, price worth paying for the fun and enjoyment we get from them.
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Um, we are not another way of putting it. We are not willing to sacrifice the enjoyment we get from
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pools in order to save thousands of lives. We don't put it that way. We would never phrase it
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that way. We, we, we don't, we don't think of it that way. Uh, you know, when you're taking a dip
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in the pool in the summer, you don't think to yourself, Oh, you know, I said, I don't care about
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those, those children who are drowning. You know, you don't think that, but if you would oppose any
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measure to ban swimming pools across the board, then you do think that the enjoyment you get in
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people get from swimming pools, swimming pools is worth the price of people dying. That is what
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you think. That is your argument, whether you say it or not. And if we say that about swimming pools,
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is it really so unreasonable to say that we don't want to sacrifice the whole economy
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and the livelihoods of millions and millions of people for the sake of this threat from the virus,
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even though the threat is much more substantial, even though it's contagious,
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where swimming pools are not, even though more people are dying, I get all that.
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But, um, the thing that we're sacrificing is also much more significant than a swimming pool.
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And that's, that's it, you know, and it's, it's a good response and it's a good question. Anyway,
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you know, it's, it's not a definitive sort of debunking of the other side's argument,
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but it's an interesting question, ethical question for them to grapple with. If you're,
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if you're, if you're saying that you're in favor of shutting things down to save lives,
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then why not this? You know, I, how about just answer the question rather than, rather than,
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rather than getting all smarmy about, oh, you idiot for asking, swimming pools aren't contagious.
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Yeah, I know that. We all understand that. How about just answer the ethical question if you can?
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Meanwhile, speaking of the, uh, of outrage at TV doctors, Dr. Oz was, uh, was also on Fox. So they
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had, in the span of two days, they had both of these guys on. And again, why is Fox having all
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these TV doctors on instead of actual practicing doctors? I, you know, I, that's a good question.
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I, but, and I'm certainly no fan of Dr. Oz, uh, to put it mildly. He is a licensed doctor,
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but he's not a practicing doctor. And he's also through his show and over the years has promoted
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all kinds of quackery. So I, I'm, I'm not a fan of Dr. Oz, but he's suffering his own backlash
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because he allegedly said that we should send kids back to school because only two to 3% of the
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children will die from the coronavirus. If we do that, and that's acceptable to him. Allegedly,
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he said that. And also, according to leftists all over social media and in the media, this proves
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that pro-lifers are hypocrites. Okay. So lots going on here. Let's first go and take a look at
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the, at the segment. Dr. Oz, help us. Well, first we need our mojo back. Let's start with things that
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are really critical to the nation where we think we might be able to open without getting into a lot
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of trouble. I tell you, schools are a very appetizing opportunity. Uh, I just saw a nice
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piece in the Lancet arguing that the opening of schools may only cost us two to 3% in terms of total
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mortality. And you know, that's any life is a life loss, but to get every child back into a school
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where they're safely being educated, being fed, uh, and making the most out of their lives with a
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theoretical risk in the backside, uh, it might be a trade-off. Some folks would consider, but you
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need to get industry back supply lines. I mean, things that we can do without putting the nation at
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risk. So a good example of how this is being used by the left is, uh, this viral post from a Facebook
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group for the, uh, a group called the other 98%, which is a socialist far left organization and website.
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Look at their, at their description of, uh, of what he said. Uh, it said there are, there are 56.6 million
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children in school in the U S that's 1.1 to 1.6 million dead kids. This is considered an acceptable
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trade-off for pro-life Republicans. Now, as I said, this has been all over social media, this particular
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talking point of, uh, blaming this on pro-lifers and all. And it just shows you the level of dishonesty
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that we're dealing with here. To begin with Dr. Oz did not say that two to 3% of children dying is
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acceptable. He did not say that he wasn't talking about children. He said very clearly, total
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mortality, not child mortality. The mortality rate for children is vanishingly small. So there's no,
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there's no scenario at all where a million kids die from this. Even if we intentionally infected every
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single kid in the country with us, still a million of them would not die. And I'm not saying that we
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should do that. I'm just saying that that could not be the point Dr. Oz was making because it
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doesn't work with the mortality rate anyway. But he said total mortality. He's talking about not
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childhood mortality, total mortality. That's what he was referring to. And second of all,
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what the hell do pro-lifers have to do with this? Dr. Oz is pro-abortion. He had a celebrity on his show
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not too long ago to brag about her abortion and sell her book about it. Okay. He's pro-abortion. He is not
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a pro-life Republican. So a pro-abortion TV doctor says that the uptick in total mortality could be
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low enough to justify opening up schools. And from the left, that becomes pro-lifers arguing that a
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million dead kids are okay. Just think about the dishonesty of that. It's just, it's, it's wrong on
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every level. Uh, number three, and yet more proof that our fundamental human rights are under attack.
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The Tawny town police department in Maryland just put out this tweet. Uh, it says, please remember to
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put pants on before leaving the house to check your mailbox. You know who you are. This is your final
00:23:42.500
warning of all the onerous and draconian measures. This has to be the worst easily. And it's
00:23:50.500
unconstitutional. If a man cannot even leave his home pantless to check his mailbox, then I mean,
00:23:56.620
what's the point of anything anymore? Although on the bright side, at least they didn't say that we
00:24:01.560
have to wear pants to answer the door for the, uh, pizza delivery person, because that would be,
00:24:06.100
that would just be certainly going several steps too far. Number four, the world health organization
00:24:10.920
has already given us, uh, given us enough reasons already really to call for it to be defunded and even
00:24:16.020
disbanded. But now, uh, here is the proverbial back, backbreaking straw. Who is advocating for
00:24:23.240
restrictions on alcohol during the pandemic? Reading now from the New York post, it says the
00:24:28.320
group called for measures to limit the amount of alcohol that can be consumed during lockdowns.
00:24:32.600
The organization's office of alcohol and illicit drugs program said during the COVID-19 pandemic,
00:24:37.960
we should really ask ourselves what risks we are taking in leaving people under lockdown in their
00:24:42.600
homes with a substance that is harmful, both in terms of their health and the effects of their
00:24:46.560
behavior on others, including violence. So you have to like how leaving people locked in their
00:24:53.960
homes with this dangerous substance, talking about like talking about, about us, like we're children
00:24:57.680
the way that I would talk about, you know, having a little kid in the, in the house when you've got
00:25:03.840
chemicals under the, under the sink and it's not, you don't have a child safety lock. Well, you don't
00:25:08.400
want to, you don't want to do that. So that's, that's how the, the experts over at who see regular
00:25:14.620
adults. Um, but second of all, are we really going to take away another thing that people enjoy?
00:25:24.420
They've already removed our sources of enjoyment outside the home. And now they're saying, let's go
00:25:28.680
into the home and make sure nothing is being enjoyed there either. Can't have people enjoying
00:25:34.740
things during, during a lockdown. Can't, can't happen. Besides, by the way, look, I've, I've had
00:25:42.220
an alcohol beverage, alcoholic beverage every single day of lockdown. Okay. And, uh, I'm proud to report
00:25:48.180
and I have not gotten sick. So, and this is just how you do science folks. Scientifically, I can
00:25:55.420
conclude from that correlation that alcohol actually makes you immune from the virus. That is a scientific
00:26:04.460
conclusion. Number five. Um, the day I have long feared has finally arrived. God help us. Hollywood
00:26:13.400
is doing an adaptation of one of my favorite books of all time, Brave New World. And they put out a
00:26:18.620
teaser trailer here. Here it is. Welcome to new London. You are an essential part of a perfect social
00:26:26.140
body. Everybody, everybody in their place. Everybody happy now. Everyone belongs to everyone else.
00:26:35.660
There's no pain there, John. No fear. I want that for you.
00:26:41.340
Everyone. Virus enters a cell. That's how it begins. You know, I've been watching you people.
00:26:50.760
You gotta ask yourself that this place is so perfect. Why is it upside down?
00:26:57.760
We're at the beginning of something, something necessary.
00:27:01.300
Just aesthetically, that looks nothing like what you imagine when you read the book.
00:27:10.720
But that's because Hollywood, when it does a dystopian movie, this is actually not a movie. It's a,
00:27:15.620
it's a series they're going to do for NBC's streaming service. But anytime they do a dystopian
00:27:22.320
show or movie, it always looks exactly the same. It's like they hire the same characters,
00:27:29.220
the same actors, the same wardrobe. In every dystopian Hollywood movie, they're always wearing
00:27:34.920
the same stuff. It's like they have one outfit that they keep in a, in a closet somewhere in
00:27:39.440
Hollywood. And then anytime there's a dystopian movie or show, they go and they take it out.
00:27:44.140
And beyond that, just the whole feel of it, like they're trying to make it into something epic and
00:27:49.340
action packed when the story is far more cerebral, subtle, understated, even creepy.
00:27:57.760
That's maybe the main thing that's missing from this is that in the book, there's a real
00:28:02.360
element of creepiness that pervades every single page of it. Even in the scenes that don't seem
00:28:09.200
that creepy, there's just something there and that's missing from this. But the bigger problem
00:28:12.800
is that, and this is the irony of it, is that this is modern day Hollywood making an adaptation
00:28:19.200
of Brave New World. When modern day Hollywood is one of the things that Brave New World warned us
00:28:24.740
about. So the book is all about entertainment being used as a means to control the masses,
00:28:30.300
make them passive, make them accepting. It's all about sex being used as a method to keep people
00:28:37.380
controlled and distracted, which is exactly what Hollywood does. So it's basically about them.
00:28:45.160
So I'm a bit skeptical of Hollywood's ability to handle an adaptation like this. It's kind of like
00:28:51.640
the government funding an adaptation of 1984. Just doesn't make sense. Or I don't know if SeaWorld
00:28:57.560
did a remake of Jaws. It just kind of, it doesn't work. Six, finally a bonus story here, but I have to
00:29:04.480
play this for you. It's making the rounds on the internet. I don't know when this is from. I assume it's not
00:29:08.720
from the last month or so, unless this sports league is exempt from social distancing regulations,
00:29:15.040
which I think it should be. But either way, here's a highlight from a sport that is easily a million
00:29:22.060
times more exciting than soccer. Watch this. Final throw of the match. He played well, hit some
00:29:29.860
gigantic shots along the way. So what he's going to try to do is hit this back lip and then cause
00:29:44.760
this bag to go off while the airmail goes in. One of the most difficult shots in Cornhole.
00:30:02.720
This wouldn't even be on the mind of an elementary player. Wow. Scott Phillips just looked at Damon
00:30:10.440
Dennis and said, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen. That's extraordinary. Wow. I mean,
00:30:16.800
I can pull off that shot and I have because I am a Cornhole expert myself, but still a very amazing
00:30:23.280
play. And, but I don't know if you noticed this. Here's, here's the real thing. The real reason I'm
00:30:27.400
playing this clip. I don't know if you noticed this, but the real drama in that clip unfolded in
00:30:33.320
the background. So I want to go back and we're going to watch this again, but I want you to focus
00:30:38.540
on the guy in the gray shirt in the background. So let's play this. Okay. So he makes a shot. He's
00:30:45.720
celebrating. Look at the guy in the back standing up. He's going for the high five. Look at that.
00:30:50.080
That's he's, he's left hanging. And that's, that's bad because you know, he stands up to go
00:30:57.660
for the high five. The guy just, I think the guy, the athlete, and he is, he is, he is an athlete.
00:31:03.620
It looks like he sees him and that's a power move. He sees him and just looks the other way.
00:31:08.560
Just get out of my face. Okay. You're not, you're not even on the court. Okay. You're not a
00:31:12.860
cornhole player like us, but that's bad because he's in the front row. Everybody sees it. He's on
00:31:18.900
TV. I don't know what channel he's on, but he's on some channel and now it's all over the internet.
00:31:25.480
There's no coming back from that. There's no recovery. Um, all right, let's, uh, move on to
00:31:30.960
our daily cancellation. But before we do, we've been telling you about this new deal we have over
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00:32:39.040
Today in our daily cancellation, I never saw this coming, but I have to cancel butter. Um,
00:32:44.600
not all butter. I would never do that. I would rather die frankly, than live a life without butter.
00:32:49.940
So I would never, but at least one butter company, uh, that is Lando lakes, which prior to this
00:32:55.340
cancellation has been my favorite butter brand. And there is, and I, and yes, there is a difference
00:33:01.680
and I can tell the difference, but now they're canceled, um, for removing the native American
00:33:08.240
woman from their packaging on the basis, apparently the basis that her presence on the package was
00:33:15.020
somehow inexplicably racist. Now I want to read a New York daily news report about this because,
00:33:20.320
um, the stupidity, the stupidity is on so many levels. It's like, there are so many layers of
00:33:25.340
idiocy to sift through that you really have to listen and focus. Okay. Uh, so New York daily news
00:33:32.420
says the image of the native American woman who has been the face of a popular brand of dairy products
00:33:37.020
is getting the heave ho Lando lakes is removing the racially charged imagery that has appeared on
00:33:43.040
its container of butter and margarine since 1928. Okay. Let's stop here for a moment. How is it racially
00:33:49.060
charged to simply have an image of a native American woman on a package to merely depict a person of
00:33:56.240
another race? How is that racially charged? It's not like it's a picture of a native American woman
00:34:02.940
holding a loft, the severed scalp of a, of a captured settler or something. Okay. That now I would
00:34:09.760
admit that such an image would be at least a little bit too aggressive for a box of butter. I could see
00:34:14.540
something like that maybe on a, on a package of beef jerky or something, but that's not what this
00:34:19.680
was. It was literally just a picture of a native American woman sitting there, but it's somehow
00:34:26.760
it's racist. But wait a second though. I thought the whole thing was, I thought, I thought we needed
00:34:31.740
representation, right? Minorities need to be represented. They need to be shown. They need
00:34:36.460
to be depicted more, but now we need to depict them less. So I'm confused about that. Is, isn't it
00:34:44.200
more racist to take off the image rather than to keep it on? So what are the rules here exactly?
00:34:51.560
I'm just, I'm, I don't understand. Okay. Back to the article. It says, instead, the company announced
00:34:55.660
that future packages will showcase photos of real Lando Lakes farmers and co-op members along with the
00:35:01.860
phrase proud to be farmer owned. Okay. Wait a second. So we're, we're, we are replacing the native
00:35:07.180
American woman with white men mostly. And that's the more progressive choice. I, I, again, I don't
00:35:14.200
get it. Uh, the article says for years, the image has rankled many of the native American community,
00:35:19.520
North Dakota state representative Ruth Buffalo called the image racist telling the Grand Forks
00:35:25.200
Herald. It goes, quote, listen to this. It goes hand in hand with human and sex trafficking of our
00:35:32.240
women and girls by depicting native, native women as sex objects. Okay. Wait a second.
00:35:40.060
Hold the phone. Sex trafficking. That's what you get from your butter package. What kind of
00:35:49.140
degenerate weirdo goes to the butter aisle of the grocery store, picks up a box of butter and thinks,
00:35:54.240
wow, this reminds me of sex trafficking. And how is this woman on the package, a sex object?
00:36:03.160
She's not nude on the box. Okay. If it was a naked woman,
00:36:07.300
a pornographic image on the box of butter, I would say, all right, fine. You have a point.
00:36:13.020
It's a fully clothed woman sitting there. Uh, now look, I, I know I don't want to be insensitive.
00:36:21.720
I know we've been in quarantine for a long time and, uh, and, and, and all of that. And people
00:36:26.900
are lonely, but if you're looking at a picture on a dairy product and thinking about sex, well,
00:36:32.780
I think that might be a reflection of some underlying issues that you have. That's all
00:36:35.860
I'm saying. Uh, in any case, that's why land of lakes is canceled. And I think representative
00:36:40.740
Ruth, Ruth Buffalo is also canceled. And also she's banned from the dairy aisle because Lord knows
00:36:46.580
what she might do there. All right, let's go to, uh, emails as we wrap things up for the week.
00:36:58.040
Ruth, uh, or sorry, no, not Ruth, not Ruth Buffalo. This is from Kelsey says, uh, I just wanted to
00:37:02.720
email you and give you the perspective of a person who would be in a very high risk group for COVID-19.
00:37:07.500
I'm a Midwestern woman in my mid thirties with severe allergies, asthma, and stage two renal failure,
00:37:12.360
among other preexisting conditions. To give an example of severity for years, I have frequently
00:37:16.540
had to wear masks to protect myself. People at work would call me Bain and eventually stopped
00:37:21.700
noticing. Um, they would, uh, just say, oh, that's just her life when asked about my ailments.
00:37:30.140
Did they really? It's a, you're, you're, you know, someone with an illness and you're going to work
00:37:35.060
with a mask and they called you Bain. Wow. Um, given those conditions, I am one of the few people
00:37:42.280
our age who would actually be more likely to have catastrophic outcomes. If I caught COVID-19,
00:37:47.140
I am tired of people trying to use me to justify their draconian orders. It is not the responsibility
00:37:53.420
of everyone in my state to stay inside for me. It is my job to protect myself. And it's my family's
00:37:58.240
job to fill the gaps if needed. People need to take control of their own outcomes and assist
00:38:02.240
neighbors who might be in need. They do not need people in governor's mansions to act like the parent
00:38:06.880
and order all the kids to be in timeout. Let those of us who are high risk work from home and stop
00:38:11.500
using us as an excuse. Sorry for being long winded. I thought my future theocratic dictator
00:38:15.580
might appreciate the take of someone you're protecting at home. Uh, well, I have to say,
00:38:20.160
Kelsey, this is, I, I admire your attitude. You are, you're one of my favorite people already
00:38:25.620
in the country. Just, just based on this alone. Um, first of all, there's the Bain comment,
00:38:29.920
which you're just taking, you got thick skin. You're just taking that in stride. We just got through
00:38:33.640
with a woman who's crying over the picture on a box of butter. And then here you are on the other end
00:38:39.560
of the spectrum. So I appreciate that. And yeah, I think your attitude is, is exactly right. And I
00:38:44.660
have to say, you're not the only person I've heard this from, um, both people who have preexisting
00:38:50.280
conditions. And also I've heard from a lot of older people who are in, you know, just by the,
00:38:54.440
by the fact of their age, uh, including my own parents, by the way, you know, who are in their
00:38:58.640
sixties. And what I've heard over and over again is look, you don't need to shut down the whole
00:39:04.520
economy from me. I can protect myself. I can stay home. I can, especially when you're talking
00:39:08.920
about older people who are retired and don't need to go to work anyway. So that's what makes
00:39:15.820
it all the more absurd that many of the people were trying to protect here by shutting the whole
00:39:19.760
economy down. Um, sudden many of the people were trying to protect by shutting the workforce down
00:39:25.320
aren't even in the workforce in the first place. They can stay home and they, and they should,
00:39:31.220
we don't need to shut everybody else down. So, uh, yeah, I, I appreciate that attitude.
00:39:38.920
Um, all right. And I, and I've also said, you know, when, when I, when I have advocated for
00:39:44.760
a different plan, um, opening the economy, but still taking preventive measures. And, and, uh,
00:39:51.680
I think that, you know, there are going to be people who have preexisting conditions or are in
00:39:57.840
that vulnerable group, but who do usually need to work. They're not retired like yourself, for example,
00:40:03.260
maybe, I don't know if you, I can't, yeah, you said you have a job. Okay. So you're, you're somebody in
00:40:07.040
that group. Um, and I think people like that, we, we should help. Uh, I think the government,
00:40:13.280
I think that, you know, these stimulus checks we're sending out, it would be a lot easier to
00:40:17.400
help people and to do that if we could be more targeted. And so we let people who do not have
00:40:23.700
preexisting conditions, who are young and healthy. And so the risk for them is very, very low when it
00:40:28.160
comes to mortality and even hospitalization, we let them go to work and then we can kind of see
00:40:34.140
what's left. And the people who need to work aren't retired, but can't go because of their
00:40:38.880
preexisting conditions. Now it's going to be a lot easier. I would think to sort of target them,
00:40:43.540
people in your group and give them help if they need it rather than sending these stimulus checks
00:40:48.400
to everybody, including people who don't need it, who are still working and all of that.
00:40:52.440
Okay. This is from, uh, Shuki, I think S U S H U K I. All right. Hi Matt. I'm a big fan from
00:41:01.960
Melbourne, Australia, but I ardently disagree with your position about racism equals power
00:41:05.880
plus prejudice. I've heard you dismiss the equation out of hand a few times before, but
00:41:09.440
I think you're missing an insight that's quite helpful to the conservative cause.
00:41:12.580
I don't see anyone else talking about it and I don't quite understand why the argument from the
00:41:17.020
left normally goes something like this. One racism equals power plus prejudice. Two black people have
00:41:21.560
no power in America. Three, therefore black people can't be racist. This is the formulation I hear
00:41:26.560
often from leftists and that you rightly dismiss on your show. Uh, aside from two being ludicrous,
00:41:32.140
as you pointed out, everyone is getting the equation wrong. When power equals zero racism equals prejudice,
00:41:38.060
prejudice. It's not power times prejudice. It's plus conservatives should be clinging to that
00:41:42.860
equation, not dismissing it. It's stating that racism is magnified by power, which we all agree with
00:41:48.680
to an extent. A racist act by government like Jim Crow is far more harmful than an individual
00:41:54.000
racist incident. But inherent in the equation is that in the absence of power, racism is simply
00:41:58.620
prejudice. So the exact argument leftists use to deny the possibility of racism by non-white people
00:42:03.120
actually states the exact opposite. Uh, the only thing I find objectionable about it is that it
00:42:07.540
implies that racism equals power when there's no prejudice. I'm very interested in your thought and
00:42:11.880
thanks for all you do. Um, your show a while ago on introversion has changed the way I understand
00:42:17.140
myself and my energy levels and has improved my life immensely. Okay. Well, I think I understand
00:42:22.100
what you're saying, but I don't agree because the issue here is one of definitions, right? The left
00:42:27.060
wants to redefine racism, make the matter far more complicated than it really is as a means of
00:42:34.220
absolving non-white races of racism while laying the blame entirely at the feet of white people.
00:42:39.200
But I think making it complicated, as I said, is, is, is, is the main thing for the left. They love to do
00:42:46.800
this. They love to take very simple and straightforward, easy to understand concepts
00:42:53.180
and make them artificially complex and ambiguous and impossible to understand because then it allows
00:43:00.420
them to position themselves as the arbiters and experts on this topic. And then they can say to the
00:43:05.640
average Joe Schmo who claims, uh, to not be racist, they could say, Oh, you think you're not racist?
00:43:10.600
You don't even know what racism is. Okay. It's what's too, it's too complicated for someone dumb
00:43:14.980
like you to understand. I, I went to college and studied racism. I, I know, um, another obvious
00:43:21.480
example of when they do this would be with, uh, the issue of gender. You know, I mean, any common sense
00:43:27.860
person knows that, okay, somebody has a penis that makes them a man. Pretty simple, but the left wants to
00:43:33.800
come in. And of course, as I've covered many times, they don't, it's not like they have a new
00:43:39.000
definition for man and woman. They have no definition. All they've tried to do is just
00:43:43.140
complicate it and muddy the waters and convince you. So they don't need to convince you of their
00:43:48.780
new definition because they don't have one. They just need to convince you that the matter is far
00:43:53.000
too complicated, um, for you to really understand anyway. And so just, so just let them handle it.
00:43:59.200
Okay. Go with whatever they have to say, because you don't understand it. That's the move. That's
00:44:04.200
the, that's the, uh, the ploy. But, um, just like sex is actually not complicated. This is not
00:44:11.820
complicated either. And racism and prejudice are not two distinct things. Prejudice is simply
00:44:17.560
having a preconceived, often negative preconceived notion about something or someone. That's what
00:44:26.160
prejudice is. Now, and it's not always prejudice against a person. It could be prejudice against,
00:44:31.440
you could have all kinds of prejudices. Racism is the belief that a certain race
00:44:36.900
is inferior to your own in some way. So racism is racial prejudice. It is a form of prejudice.
00:44:45.360
It's not two different things. And you notice how power has nothing at all to do with it. It is
00:44:51.040
totally irrelevant. Yes. A powerful racist is more dangerous than a racist with no power,
00:44:56.480
but that doesn't, that doesn't, uh, make the powerful racist more racist. He's just as racist.
00:45:02.900
He's equal in racism. He just has a greater ability to act in harmful ways based on his racism,
00:45:08.260
but that's all racism is very, very simple. If you think that a certain race is inferior to your own,
00:45:16.380
um, you're racist. And if you don't think that you're not racist. And yes, that means that you
00:45:24.740
could even have a negative attitude or nay, you could believe negative stereotypes about groups of
00:45:30.380
people and not actually be racist. You could be rude. It could be insulting. There are other negative
00:45:36.020
words we could use to describe you. But if you don't think that this other race is actually inferior to
00:45:40.720
your own, then you're not racist because that's what racism is. It's very simple concept.
00:45:49.160
Now, the other thing about trying to make it complicated is that we also know the left,
00:45:53.240
not only do they say that only white people can be racist, what they also say even more absurdly,
00:45:59.240
they say that all whites actually are racist inherently, which can only make sense to you.
00:46:07.520
If you believe that racism is again, this ambiguous, complicated, complex thing, when it's not,
00:46:13.120
if you understand that racism is simply the belief that a race of people is inferior to your own,
00:46:18.120
you realize that the idea of it being inherent based on the color of your skin is nonsense.
00:46:25.780
No, people don't inherently believe that other races are inferior to their own. They don't.
00:46:30.880
You have to be conditioned to believe that. That's a belief that has to be instilled in you.
00:46:37.520
By the culture, by your parents, by your family. I think kids, if you leave kids to their own
00:46:44.100
devices, especially in modern America, look, in modern America, in many places of the country,
00:46:50.120
in many areas in the country, where there's a lot of racial diversity, and I can think about my own
00:46:55.360
experience growing up, you know, going to public school on the East Coast, living in a very racially
00:47:01.060
diverse community. And so from the age of four or five, I'm in school, and I'm in school with kids
00:47:07.320
of all different races. And it just never occurred to me to see it as anything strange or weird. I
00:47:16.160
mean, obviously, I noticed that people look differently from me, but it would never have
00:47:20.400
even occurred to me to be racist or to think that they're inferior because they look different or
00:47:24.960
because they have a different color of skin. That just, you don't think of it. Most kids in a
00:47:30.940
modern kindergarten or first grade class, you know, they're friends with all different kids
00:47:36.120
of different races, and it's fine. There's no problem. It's only society has to come in and
00:47:43.040
complicate it and start dividing, which our society actually does do that. Now, it's not socially
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acceptable anymore to come out and to, you know, tell kids that certain races are inferior, so you
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don't have that anymore. But you do have race baiters and race hustlers in the media and in
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academia and all over the place who are trying to divide and make different races suspicious of one
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another and sow this kind of discord and contempt and suspicion and everything else, which is a damn
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shame. Because if you just let it alone and let people live, there wouldn't be an issue. I think
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about that famous clip from Morgan Freeman, where he was asked on, I think it was 2020, you know,
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years ago, and he said, what do we do about racism? How do we solve racism? And his answer was, stop
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talking about it. Just shut up about it and let people live and it'll be fine. Now, that wasn't always
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the solution. But nowadays, it could be. All right, let's leave it there. All right. Hope you guys
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have a great weekend. Find a way to get out of the house, at least, if you can do so without getting
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arrested. And I'll talk to you next week. Godspeed.
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