The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 468 - It’s Time To Re-Open

00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Walsh Show, Trump has unveiled his plan to reopen the economy.

00:00:04.900 We'll take a look at it and we'll analyze. Also, an extended five headlines today,

00:00:09.120 including the Emperor of Michigan claiming that abortion is life-sustaining, she said,

00:00:14.560 and that's why they have to keep the abortion clinics open even during the shutdown. 1.00

00:00:17.400 And also, a couple of famous TV doctors have got themselves into some hot water over comments they

00:00:21.940 made about the coronavirus. But I think they're getting a raw deal. I think I'm going to defend

00:00:26.380 both of them, which I wouldn't normally do with TV doctors, but I will here. And

00:00:30.960 today it brings me no pleasure at all to cancel my favorite butter manufacturer. But there's a

00:00:36.800 very good reason for that. And we'll talk about it. All of that coming up. But starting with,

00:00:41.800 as I mentioned, President Trump yesterday unveiled his plan for getting the economy going again.

00:00:48.000 So we're looking at a gradual process. And for most people, it won't start for a few weeks.

00:00:53.980 And this really depends on the individual states and governors agreeing to it, which is another

00:00:58.900 big part of this. Because despite what Trump has famously said about him having total control and

00:01:03.860 power, of course, he doesn't really. So if they don't want to open, they're not going to.

00:01:08.860 But he has the general outline. And I'll read, as reported by the AP, it's in three phases.

00:01:16.760 And I'm going to read those to you. But first, actually, before I do that,

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00:02:47.040 Walsh, spelled B-A-M-B-E-E.com slash Walsh. Okay. Now, three phases of opening the economy,

00:02:59.740 and we're not going to spend a lot of time on this because I want to get to the news segment. I've

00:03:03.440 got a lot packed in there that I want to talk about. But reading from the AP report, this is

00:03:08.320 in phase one, for instance, the plan recommends strict social distancing for all people in public.

00:03:12.860 Gatherings larger than 10 people are to be avoided, and non-essential travel is discouraged. In phase

00:03:18.020 two, people are encouraged to maximize social distancing and limit gatherings to no more than

00:03:23.260 50 people unless precautionary measures are taken. Travel could resume. Phase three envisions a return

00:03:28.960 to normalcy for most Americans with a focus on identification and isolation of any new infections.

00:03:34.020 Trump said recent trends in some states were so positive that they could almost immediately begin

00:03:38.980 taking the steps laid out in phase one. The guidelines recommend that states pass checkpoints

00:03:43.240 that could look at new cases, testing, and surveillance data over the prior 14 days before

00:03:47.340 advancing from one phase to the other. Governors of both parties make clear they will move at their

00:03:52.120 own pace. All right. This raises a question that people who are still supporting the shutdowns have

00:03:58.080 not provided a sufficient answer to, as far as I can tell. The reopening plan, you know, it sounds good to

00:04:06.000 me, except for the timeline. I think it's way more drawn out than it needs to be. But the basic idea of

00:04:14.480 being cautious as we open up the economy, we still have social distancing, you know, but we let people get

00:04:20.840 back to their lives and everything. That's good. I like that. And this was always inevitable, right?

00:04:27.040 It was always inevitable that we would open up the economy at some point, because we're not going to

00:04:31.680 keep it closed forever. And that it was also inevitable that we would do it before there's a

00:04:36.140 vaccine available. Because a vaccine, if one ever comes, and the way people talk about the vaccine,

00:04:41.520 they talk about it as if it's an absolute definite that there will be one. There won't necessarily be

00:04:46.260 one. You know, there are plenty of contagious diseases out there that we don't have vaccines

00:04:50.200 for. So that by no means is a guarantee. But even if one does come, and if you listen to the

00:04:56.300 doctors, they sound pretty confident that there will be one. So okay, fine. But I haven't heard

00:05:00.780 anybody who knows what they're talking about, say that they think the vaccine will be ready within a

00:05:06.440 year, like less than 12 months. Okay, you don't turn around vaccines that quickly. So we're talking

00:05:12.380 about a year or more, possibly a lot more. So the idea that we would stay locked down that entire time

00:05:18.800 for over a year is obviously insane. We can't do it. It's not possible. Society would be totally

00:05:25.700 destroyed in the meantime. And besides, people won't do it anyway. So they're just not going to,

00:05:31.700 and they shouldn't. They won't comply. It's not going to happen. You cannot keep people locked in

00:05:35.300 their homes for a year. Now, what that means is, what we're doing right now, and there are plenty of

00:05:41.100 Trump's critics that are going crazy about this, that he wants to reopen the economy.

00:05:48.000 Okay, again, this was going to happen. Did you want to never open it? I mean, obviously,

00:05:53.000 we're going to do this. And if we're opening before the vaccine, which we have to do,

00:05:59.940 it means you're going to be opening the economy when the virus is still out there. Not just out there,

00:06:06.460 but more widely spread now than it was before the shutdown started. And you could say that the

00:06:13.480 curve is flattened. Okay, well, the curve doesn't magically stay flattened forever. Just because you

00:06:17.500 flatten a curve once, I'm not an epidemiologist, but I'm pretty sure that just because you flatten

00:06:23.000 a curve once doesn't mean that it's going to stay flattened forever. The virus isn't going to say to

00:06:27.420 itself, okay, they beat us, folks. Let's pack it in and go home. It doesn't usually work that way.

00:06:32.860 Now, viruses can, if you listen to what Dr. Fauci said, he was on Fox News link last night,

00:06:38.620 and he was asked about SARS, for example. And he said that SARS basically disappeared on its own.

00:06:46.680 Okay, but he's the one saying that he doesn't think that's going to happen with this.

00:06:51.720 So it's still going to be out there without a vaccine when we open the economy. There are two ways

00:06:57.520 this can go in that case. Either we open the economy, and people are smart, and precautions are

00:07:05.940 taken, and we still have social distancing, and we still keep vulnerable populations maybe isolated

00:07:13.400 for a time. I mean, we're not going to throw open the doors of the nursing homes right away. I don't

00:07:18.420 think anyone is advocating that. That would be crazy to do. We use masks in certain situations

00:07:25.200 and in certain industries. So maybe we do that. That's one scenario where we do that, and we avoid

00:07:34.620 the worst-case scenario of the virus spreading uncontrollably, many thousands more dying, and so on.

00:07:41.780 Or the other possibility is that we don't do that, that we're not smart, and that, you know,

00:07:48.420 people just go right back to exactly how they were living before. No social distancing. They don't

00:07:52.340 take precautions. They don't practice good hygiene. They're not washing their hands. They're going to

00:07:56.500 visit nursing homes. They're never wearing masks, and so on and so on. And then the virus picks up

00:08:01.360 again, and then we have, you know, the worst case scenario with the death toll, and everything

00:08:06.960 comes to fruition. But here's the thing. If the latter occurs, the bad scenario, then it would seem that

00:08:16.500 the shutdowns were pointless. All they did was make us go broke before killing all those people.

00:08:24.040 All we will have done in that case is put off the bloodbath, but the bloodbath still happens.

00:08:30.360 So I'm not sure what the point was in the delay. You're not really saving lives. In this case,

00:08:36.200 the we're saving lives things goes out the window. You didn't save any lives. All you did was

00:08:40.420 temporarily and for a very short time delay those lives being taken. And for that delay of a month

00:08:48.080 or two, we have to pay with a great depression. And that, to me, just seems crazy. Now, if the

00:08:54.100 former scenario plays out, which I'm very hopeful that, in fact, this will be what happens,

00:08:59.140 the optimistic scenario where we open the economy, get people back to work, get people back to their

00:09:03.460 lives, but we still social distance, we take precautions, people are smart about it, and

00:09:08.540 worst case is avoided in that scenario, then it would seem that even then, the shutdowns also

00:09:16.260 proved to be pointless because we could have done that to begin with. So when I read about phase one

00:09:22.640 and phase two of opening the economy, the first thing I think is, why didn't we just do that to

00:09:27.320 start with? We could have done that in the beginning. Again, if it works when we reopen the

00:09:37.140 economy, then it would have worked to begin with. And if it doesn't work, then we were always screwed

00:09:43.640 to begin with anyway, unless we stayed shut down until the vaccine, which, again, we cannot do.

00:09:48.980 So either way, it would seem to me, if we're opening up when the virus still exists and there's no

00:09:55.780 vaccine, then the shutdown proves pointless. And certainly the we're saving lives thing is moot.

00:10:08.400 This isn't about saving lives, but merely at most delaying the death for a few weeks,

00:10:13.860 which is certainly not the same as preventing it, which is why now, and they're not going to say,

00:10:18.680 they're not going to admit that this is what they're doing. But now what they're doing is

00:10:22.800 they're moving the goalposts. We are watching in real time as the goalposts are uprooted and moved

00:10:28.480 all the way across the field because we were originally told we're saving millions of lives

00:10:33.060 and so on. Well, now the reality is this is an inescapable reality that we have to open the

00:10:38.380 economy. The virus is still going to be there. So now they're saying, well, no, okay, maybe we didn't

00:10:42.800 save lives, but we gave ourselves some time. We were able to study the disease. We were able to learn

00:10:48.220 about it. We were able to educate the public. I mean, even though the government originally was

00:10:54.000 miseducating the public, telling people, for example, not to wear masks. Okay. But that's what

00:11:00.740 they're saying now. That's a very different thing from saving millions of lives. Okay. Considering the

00:11:09.360 cost. There there's, there's, we're going to pay with an economic collapse for the sake of delay

00:11:18.120 and learning and educating. Now I think learning and educating is a good thing, but is it worth an

00:11:24.960 economic collapse? That's, that's a, that's a very different argument than we're saving millions of

00:11:31.700 lives. But what we've seen is they've, they've just quietly the, you know, the people in this camp

00:11:36.880 have quietly abandoned that and moved on to this other justification. And yet they'll still continue

00:11:46.620 by saying that if you want to reopen the economy you're, you're, you know, you're, you're in favor 0.59

00:11:52.060 of, of, of killing millions of people. So they still stay with that narrative. But if you listen to

00:11:56.940 the justifications they're given, they've completely shifted the goalposts. All right. I want to move on

00:12:02.620 to headlines a little bit earlier than usual. Um, starting with this number one, Emperor Whitmer of

00:12:08.380 Michigan was on David Axelrod's podcast. She's been all over the media, you know, all over all the

00:12:13.260 cable news shows. She's been on Comedy Central. Uh, she's, uh, now she's running through all the

00:12:18.100 podcasts. She's just, she's, she's loving the attention. You can tell she loves it. And on the show,

00:12:22.300 she was asked about her decision to keep abortion clinics open, even while she closes all these other

00:12:28.080 things down. And this is the reasoning that she provided. As we speak, uh, in Texas and a couple

00:12:35.100 of other States, I think Ohio may be another, uh, the state has asked to suspend abortion services

00:12:41.420 as part of this COVID-19 protocol. Uh, this is probably going to go to the Supreme court.

00:12:48.360 What, what, what is your reaction to that? You're a governor. You have to make these decisions as well.

00:12:52.560 There are other procedures that have been suspended. You know, we, we stopped elective

00:12:57.360 surgeries here in Michigan. And some people have tried to say that that type of a, um, procedure

00:13:05.120 is considered the same. And that's ridiculous. Um, you know, a woman's healthcare, her whole future, 0.94

00:13:12.960 her ability to decide if, and when she starts a family is, is, um, not an election. It is a 0.96

00:13:20.760 fundamental to her life. Uh, it is life sustaining and it's something that, um, government should not 0.98

00:13:28.720 be getting in the, in the middle of life sustaining, she says. So according to the emperor of Michigan

00:13:34.560 abortion, that is the direct and intentional destruction of human life is life sustaining.

00:13:40.520 Meanwhile, planting seeds or visiting your relatives is life threatening. So directly taking human life is

00:13:48.440 life sustaining, planting a seed in your, in an, in an indoor planter is life threatening. Okay.

00:13:57.760 Number two, Dr. Phil has gotten himself into a lot of trouble for something he said on Fox news a couple

00:14:01.940 of days ago, lots of backlash over this. 250 people a year die from poverty. And the poverty line is

00:14:10.820 getting such that more and more people are going to fall below that because the economy is crashing

00:14:15.760 around us. And they're doing that because people are dying from the Corona virus. I get that. But

00:14:21.480 look, the fact of the matter is we have people dying. 45,000 people a year die from automobile

00:14:27.920 accidents, 480,000 from cigarettes, 360,000 a year from swimming pools, but we don't shut the country

00:14:34.220 down for that. But yet we're doing it for this. And the fallout is going to last for years because

00:14:40.340 people's lives are being destroyed. First of all, Dr. Phil really needs to get himself some

00:14:44.720 professional lighting in his office there, uh, or his study because the lighting just makes him look

00:14:49.740 undead. But anyway, a few other things, more importantly, as you can imagine, obviously the

00:14:55.500 backlash he's getting here is, is intense. And on the critical side of it, I do have to say that

00:14:59.920 first of all, I agree with the critics on a few points. The first one being 360,000 people a year

00:15:05.820 definitely don't die from swimming pools. Okay. It's not 360,000. That would be like the,

00:15:10.280 that's the entire population of Lexington, Kentucky drowning in a swimming pool every single year.

00:15:15.640 And that's not the case. I think he probably, I haven't looked up the number myself. What he,

00:15:19.820 what he probably did is he added a zero. And so I'm thinking the real numbers probably like 3,600

00:15:24.260 or something like that. Um, also I agree with the people asking why Dr. Phil is being brought on Fox

00:15:31.700 News to talk about the virus in the first place. You know, we don't really need to hear from TV

00:15:36.940 doctors on this thing at all. And besides Dr. Phil isn't even that kind of doctor. He's not a medical

00:15:42.200 doctor. Now, if you want to talk to him about the psychological effects of the shutdown, uh, that

00:15:49.580 could be interesting. Maybe they did talk about that, but to get him pontificating on these other

00:15:53.800 things, uh, it just, it's a, it's a little bit embarrassing, but in his defense, the point he's making

00:16:00.600 here is actually perfectly reasonable. And it's a point that one side of the discussion is just

00:16:07.120 utterly determined to misinterpret, mischaracterize, misconstrue. The one thing they won't do is

00:16:14.660 actually listen to the point being made and respond to it. Yes. Swimming pools are not the

00:16:20.300 same as a virus. Swimming pool deaths are not contagious for one. Uh, and yes, many more people

00:16:26.240 have died from the virus than have been, then we'll die in a swimming pool. Assuming the number

00:16:31.320 isn't really 360,000, which I'm pretty sure it isn't. Uh, so yes, that's all true. That is true, 0.99

00:16:36.980 but that's not the point. That is not the point of the comparison. The point is not to compare

00:16:46.340 swimming pools to viruses, not the point. What Dr. Phil is trying to do here is make a point

00:16:53.660 about the concept of shutting stuff down to save lives. That's all. And he's correctly saying that,

00:17:02.260 hey, and this is, it's an interesting example when you think about it, because he's saying, hey,

00:17:05.720 if we shut swimming pools down, if we ban them, which we could do, right? Um, there is no doubt that

00:17:13.280 we would save lives and not a few, probably not 360,000, but we would probably save thousands of

00:17:18.620 lives. Uh, there's no denying that nobody can deny that. Two things we could, every state in the union

00:17:27.080 could pass a law banning swimming pools, both private swimming pools and public swimming pools

00:17:31.860 that could happen. And if it did happen, you would save thousands of people who would have otherwise

00:17:40.020 most, many of them children who would have otherwise, uh, drowned in this, in those pools,

00:17:44.640 but we don't do that. We could do it. Uh, and, and it would save lives. We don't do it. Why

00:17:52.740 in, in the case of swimming pools, what we're saying as a society, apparently is that the death,

00:17:59.800 the swimming pools cause is a price, price worth paying for the fun and enjoyment we get from them.

00:18:08.220 Um, we are not another way of putting it. We are not willing to sacrifice the enjoyment we get from

00:18:14.400 pools in order to save thousands of lives. We don't put it that way. We would never phrase it

00:18:21.380 that way. We, we, we don't, we don't think of it that way. Uh, you know, when you're taking a dip

00:18:26.000 in the pool in the summer, you don't think to yourself, Oh, you know, I said, I don't care about

00:18:29.780 those, those children who are drowning. You know, you don't think that, but if you would oppose any

00:18:36.000 measure to ban swimming pools across the board, then you do think that the enjoyment you get in

00:18:41.320 people get from swimming pools, swimming pools is worth the price of people dying. That is what

00:18:44.800 you think. That is your argument, whether you say it or not. And if we say that about swimming pools,

00:18:51.220 is it really so unreasonable to say that we don't want to sacrifice the whole economy

00:18:56.880 and the livelihoods of millions and millions of people for the sake of this threat from the virus,

00:19:02.840 even though the threat is much more substantial, even though it's contagious,

00:19:06.240 where swimming pools are not, even though more people are dying, I get all that.

00:19:09.280 But, um, the thing that we're sacrificing is also much more significant than a swimming pool.

00:19:17.080 And that's, that's it, you know, and it's, it's a good response and it's a good question. Anyway,

00:19:21.960 you know, it's, it's not a definitive sort of debunking of the other side's argument,

00:19:27.020 but it's an interesting question, ethical question for them to grapple with. If you're,

00:19:31.820 if you're, if you're saying that you're in favor of shutting things down to save lives,

00:19:35.320 then why not this? You know, I, how about just answer the question rather than, rather than,

00:19:41.780 rather than getting all smarmy about, oh, you idiot for asking, swimming pools aren't contagious. 0.99

00:19:46.420 Yeah, I know that. We all understand that. How about just answer the ethical question if you can? 1.00

00:19:53.080 Meanwhile, speaking of the, uh, of outrage at TV doctors, Dr. Oz was, uh, was also on Fox. So they

00:20:01.540 had, in the span of two days, they had both of these guys on. And again, why is Fox having all

00:20:06.140 these TV doctors on instead of actual practicing doctors? I, you know, I, that's a good question.

00:20:11.100 I, but, and I'm certainly no fan of Dr. Oz, uh, to put it mildly. He is a licensed doctor,

00:20:16.720 but he's not a practicing doctor. And he's also through his show and over the years has promoted

00:20:22.660 all kinds of quackery. So I, I'm, I'm not a fan of Dr. Oz, but he's suffering his own backlash

00:20:28.280 because he allegedly said that we should send kids back to school because only two to 3% of the

00:20:34.780 children will die from the coronavirus. If we do that, and that's acceptable to him. Allegedly,

00:20:39.360 he said that. And also, according to leftists all over social media and in the media, this proves

00:20:45.600 that pro-lifers are hypocrites. Okay. So lots going on here. Let's first go and take a look at 0.99

00:20:50.500 the, at the segment. Dr. Oz, help us. Well, first we need our mojo back. Let's start with things that

00:20:58.540 are really critical to the nation where we think we might be able to open without getting into a lot

00:21:02.100 of trouble. I tell you, schools are a very appetizing opportunity. Uh, I just saw a nice

00:21:07.500 piece in the Lancet arguing that the opening of schools may only cost us two to 3% in terms of total

00:21:13.200 mortality. And you know, that's any life is a life loss, but to get every child back into a school

00:21:17.800 where they're safely being educated, being fed, uh, and making the most out of their lives with a

00:21:22.640 theoretical risk in the backside, uh, it might be a trade-off. Some folks would consider, but you

00:21:26.980 need to get industry back supply lines. I mean, things that we can do without putting the nation at

00:21:30.580 risk. So a good example of how this is being used by the left is, uh, this viral post from a Facebook

00:21:36.400 group for the, uh, a group called the other 98%, which is a socialist far left organization and website.

00:21:42.960 Look at their, at their description of, uh, of what he said. Uh, it said there are, there are 56.6 million

00:21:49.140 children in school in the U S that's 1.1 to 1.6 million dead kids. This is considered an acceptable 0.88

00:21:55.220 trade-off for pro-life Republicans. Now, as I said, this has been all over social media, this particular

00:22:01.120 talking point of, uh, blaming this on pro-lifers and all. And it just shows you the level of dishonesty

00:22:08.120 that we're dealing with here. To begin with Dr. Oz did not say that two to 3% of children dying is

00:22:14.320 acceptable. He did not say that he wasn't talking about children. He said very clearly, total

00:22:19.380 mortality, not child mortality. The mortality rate for children is vanishingly small. So there's no,

00:22:27.800 there's no scenario at all where a million kids die from this. Even if we intentionally infected every

00:22:33.460 single kid in the country with us, still a million of them would not die. And I'm not saying that we

00:22:37.340 should do that. I'm just saying that that could not be the point Dr. Oz was making because it

00:22:42.060 doesn't work with the mortality rate anyway. But he said total mortality. He's talking about not

00:22:47.560 childhood mortality, total mortality. That's what he was referring to. And second of all,

00:22:53.700 what the hell do pro-lifers have to do with this? Dr. Oz is pro-abortion. He had a celebrity on his show

00:23:00.580 not too long ago to brag about her abortion and sell her book about it. Okay. He's pro-abortion. He is not

00:23:06.640 a pro-life Republican. So a pro-abortion TV doctor says that the uptick in total mortality could be

00:23:13.660 low enough to justify opening up schools. And from the left, that becomes pro-lifers arguing that a

00:23:19.300 million dead kids are okay. Just think about the dishonesty of that. It's just, it's, it's wrong on

00:23:25.160 every level. Uh, number three, and yet more proof that our fundamental human rights are under attack.

00:23:32.920 The Tawny town police department in Maryland just put out this tweet. Uh, it says, please remember to

00:23:37.580 put pants on before leaving the house to check your mailbox. You know who you are. This is your final

00:23:42.500 warning of all the onerous and draconian measures. This has to be the worst easily. And it's

00:23:50.500 unconstitutional. If a man cannot even leave his home pantless to check his mailbox, then I mean,

00:23:56.620 what's the point of anything anymore? Although on the bright side, at least they didn't say that we

00:24:01.560 have to wear pants to answer the door for the, uh, pizza delivery person, because that would be,

00:24:06.100 that would just be certainly going several steps too far. Number four, the world health organization

00:24:10.920 has already given us, uh, given us enough reasons already really to call for it to be defunded and even

00:24:16.020 disbanded. But now, uh, here is the proverbial back, backbreaking straw. Who is advocating for

00:24:23.240 restrictions on alcohol during the pandemic? Reading now from the New York post, it says the

00:24:28.320 group called for measures to limit the amount of alcohol that can be consumed during lockdowns.

00:24:32.600 The organization's office of alcohol and illicit drugs program said during the COVID-19 pandemic,

00:24:37.960 we should really ask ourselves what risks we are taking in leaving people under lockdown in their

00:24:42.600 homes with a substance that is harmful, both in terms of their health and the effects of their

00:24:46.560 behavior on others, including violence. So you have to like how leaving people locked in their

00:24:53.960 homes with this dangerous substance, talking about like talking about, about us, like we're children

00:24:57.680 the way that I would talk about, you know, having a little kid in the, in the house when you've got

00:25:03.840 chemicals under the, under the sink and it's not, you don't have a child safety lock. Well, you don't

00:25:08.400 want to, you don't want to do that. So that's, that's how the, the experts over at who see regular

00:25:14.620 adults. Um, but second of all, are we really going to take away another thing that people enjoy?

00:25:24.420 They've already removed our sources of enjoyment outside the home. And now they're saying, let's go

00:25:28.680 into the home and make sure nothing is being enjoyed there either. Can't have people enjoying

00:25:34.740 things during, during a lockdown. Can't, can't happen. Besides, by the way, look, I've, I've had

00:25:42.220 an alcohol beverage, alcoholic beverage every single day of lockdown. Okay. And, uh, I'm proud to report

00:25:48.180 and I have not gotten sick. So, and this is just how you do science folks. Scientifically, I can

00:25:55.420 conclude from that correlation that alcohol actually makes you immune from the virus. That is a scientific

00:26:04.460 conclusion. Number five. Um, the day I have long feared has finally arrived. God help us. Hollywood

00:26:13.400 is doing an adaptation of one of my favorite books of all time, Brave New World. And they put out a

00:26:18.620 teaser trailer here. Here it is. Welcome to new London. You are an essential part of a perfect social

00:26:26.140 body. Everybody, everybody in their place. Everybody happy now. Everyone belongs to everyone else.

00:26:35.660 There's no pain there, John. No fear. I want that for you.

00:26:41.340 Everyone. Virus enters a cell. That's how it begins. You know, I've been watching you people.

00:26:50.760 You gotta ask yourself that this place is so perfect. Why is it upside down?

00:26:57.760 We're at the beginning of something, something necessary.

00:27:01.300 Just aesthetically, that looks nothing like what you imagine when you read the book.

00:27:10.720 But that's because Hollywood, when it does a dystopian movie, this is actually not a movie. It's a,

00:27:15.620 it's a series they're going to do for NBC's streaming service. But anytime they do a dystopian

00:27:22.320 show or movie, it always looks exactly the same. It's like they hire the same characters,

00:27:29.220 the same actors, the same wardrobe. In every dystopian Hollywood movie, they're always wearing

00:27:34.920 the same stuff. It's like they have one outfit that they keep in a, in a closet somewhere in

00:27:39.440 Hollywood. And then anytime there's a dystopian movie or show, they go and they take it out.

00:27:44.140 And beyond that, just the whole feel of it, like they're trying to make it into something epic and

00:27:49.340 action packed when the story is far more cerebral, subtle, understated, even creepy.

00:27:57.760 That's maybe the main thing that's missing from this is that in the book, there's a real

00:28:02.360 element of creepiness that pervades every single page of it. Even in the scenes that don't seem

00:28:09.200 that creepy, there's just something there and that's missing from this. But the bigger problem

00:28:12.800 is that, and this is the irony of it, is that this is modern day Hollywood making an adaptation

00:28:19.200 of Brave New World. When modern day Hollywood is one of the things that Brave New World warned us

00:28:24.740 about. So the book is all about entertainment being used as a means to control the masses,

00:28:30.300 make them passive, make them accepting. It's all about sex being used as a method to keep people 0.96

00:28:37.380 controlled and distracted, which is exactly what Hollywood does. So it's basically about them.

00:28:45.160 So I'm a bit skeptical of Hollywood's ability to handle an adaptation like this. It's kind of like

00:28:51.640 the government funding an adaptation of 1984. Just doesn't make sense. Or I don't know if SeaWorld

00:28:57.560 did a remake of Jaws. It just kind of, it doesn't work. Six, finally a bonus story here, but I have to

00:29:04.480 play this for you. It's making the rounds on the internet. I don't know when this is from. I assume it's not

00:29:08.720 from the last month or so, unless this sports league is exempt from social distancing regulations,

00:29:15.040 which I think it should be. But either way, here's a highlight from a sport that is easily a million

00:29:22.060 times more exciting than soccer. Watch this. Final throw of the match. He played well, hit some

00:29:29.860 gigantic shots along the way. So what he's going to try to do is hit this back lip and then cause

00:29:44.760 this bag to go off while the airmail goes in. One of the most difficult shots in Cornhole.

00:29:49.560 Dennis. Goodness. Oh my word. Oh my word.

00:30:02.720 This wouldn't even be on the mind of an elementary player. Wow. Scott Phillips just looked at Damon

00:30:10.440 Dennis and said, that's the coolest thing I've ever seen. That's extraordinary. Wow. I mean,

00:30:16.800 I can pull off that shot and I have because I am a Cornhole expert myself, but still a very amazing

00:30:23.280 play. And, but I don't know if you noticed this. Here's, here's the real thing. The real reason I'm

00:30:27.400 playing this clip. I don't know if you noticed this, but the real drama in that clip unfolded in

00:30:33.320 the background. So I want to go back and we're going to watch this again, but I want you to focus

00:30:38.540 on the guy in the gray shirt in the background. So let's play this. Okay. So he makes a shot. He's

00:30:45.720 celebrating. Look at the guy in the back standing up. He's going for the high five. Look at that.

00:30:50.080 That's he's, he's left hanging. And that's, that's bad because you know, he stands up to go

00:30:57.660 for the high five. The guy just, I think the guy, the athlete, and he is, he is, he is an athlete.

00:31:03.620 It looks like he sees him and that's a power move. He sees him and just looks the other way.

00:31:08.560 Just get out of my face. Okay. You're not, you're not even on the court. Okay. You're not a

00:31:12.860 cornhole player like us, but that's bad because he's in the front row. Everybody sees it. He's on

00:31:18.900 TV. I don't know what channel he's on, but he's on some channel and now it's all over the internet.

00:31:25.480 There's no coming back from that. There's no recovery. Um, all right, let's, uh, move on to

00:31:30.960 our daily cancellation. But before we do, we've been telling you about this new deal we have over

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00:32:39.040 Today in our daily cancellation, I never saw this coming, but I have to cancel butter. Um,

00:32:44.600 not all butter. I would never do that. I would rather die frankly, than live a life without butter.

00:32:49.940 So I would never, but at least one butter company, uh, that is Lando lakes, which prior to this

00:32:55.340 cancellation has been my favorite butter brand. And there is, and I, and yes, there is a difference

00:33:01.680 and I can tell the difference, but now they're canceled, um, for removing the native American 0.99

00:33:08.240 woman from their packaging on the basis, apparently the basis that her presence on the package was

00:33:15.020 somehow inexplicably racist. Now I want to read a New York daily news report about this because,

00:33:20.320 um, the stupidity, the stupidity is on so many levels. It's like, there are so many layers of 1.00

00:33:25.340 idiocy to sift through that you really have to listen and focus. Okay. Uh, so New York daily news 1.00

00:33:32.420 says the image of the native American woman who has been the face of a popular brand of dairy products

00:33:37.020 is getting the heave ho Lando lakes is removing the racially charged imagery that has appeared on

00:33:43.040 its container of butter and margarine since 1928. Okay. Let's stop here for a moment. How is it racially 0.89

00:33:49.060 charged to simply have an image of a native American woman on a package to merely depict a person of

00:33:56.240 another race? How is that racially charged? It's not like it's a picture of a native American woman

00:34:02.940 holding a loft, the severed scalp of a, of a captured settler or something. Okay. That now I would

00:34:09.760 admit that such an image would be at least a little bit too aggressive for a box of butter. I could see

00:34:14.540 something like that maybe on a, on a package of beef jerky or something, but that's not what this

00:34:19.680 was. It was literally just a picture of a native American woman sitting there, but it's somehow

00:34:26.760 it's racist. But wait a second though. I thought the whole thing was, I thought, I thought we needed

00:34:31.740 representation, right? Minorities need to be represented. They need to be shown. They need

00:34:36.460 to be depicted more, but now we need to depict them less. So I'm confused about that. Is, isn't it

00:34:44.200 more racist to take off the image rather than to keep it on? So what are the rules here exactly?

00:34:51.560 I'm just, I'm, I don't understand. Okay. Back to the article. It says, instead, the company announced

00:34:55.660 that future packages will showcase photos of real Lando Lakes farmers and co-op members along with the

00:35:01.860 phrase proud to be farmer owned. Okay. Wait a second. So we're, we're, we are replacing the native 1.00

00:35:07.180 American woman with white men mostly. And that's the more progressive choice. I, I, again, I don't 0.87

00:35:14.200 get it. Uh, the article says for years, the image has rankled many of the native American community,

00:35:19.520 North Dakota state representative Ruth Buffalo called the image racist telling the Grand Forks

00:35:25.200 Herald. It goes, quote, listen to this. It goes hand in hand with human and sex trafficking of our

00:35:32.240 women and girls by depicting native, native women as sex objects. Okay. Wait a second. 1.00

00:35:40.060 Hold the phone. Sex trafficking. That's what you get from your butter package. What kind of 0.99

00:35:49.140 degenerate weirdo goes to the butter aisle of the grocery store, picks up a box of butter and thinks, 1.00

00:35:54.240 wow, this reminds me of sex trafficking. And how is this woman on the package, a sex object? 0.99

00:36:03.160 She's not nude on the box. Okay. If it was a naked woman, 1.00

00:36:07.300 a pornographic image on the box of butter, I would say, all right, fine. You have a point. 0.93

00:36:13.020 It's a fully clothed woman sitting there. Uh, now look, I, I know I don't want to be insensitive.

00:36:21.720 I know we've been in quarantine for a long time and, uh, and, and, and all of that. And people

00:36:26.900 are lonely, but if you're looking at a picture on a dairy product and thinking about sex, well,

00:36:32.780 I think that might be a reflection of some underlying issues that you have. That's all

00:36:35.860 I'm saying. Uh, in any case, that's why land of lakes is canceled. And I think representative

00:36:40.740 Ruth, Ruth Buffalo is also canceled. And also she's banned from the dairy aisle because Lord knows

00:36:46.580 what she might do there. All right, let's go to, uh, emails as we wrap things up for the week.

00:36:51.980 This is from, let's see here.

00:36:58.040 Ruth, uh, or sorry, no, not Ruth, not Ruth Buffalo. This is from Kelsey says, uh, I just wanted to

00:37:02.720 email you and give you the perspective of a person who would be in a very high risk group for COVID-19.

00:37:07.500 I'm a Midwestern woman in my mid thirties with severe allergies, asthma, and stage two renal failure,

00:37:12.360 among other preexisting conditions. To give an example of severity for years, I have frequently

00:37:16.540 had to wear masks to protect myself. People at work would call me Bain and eventually stopped

00:37:21.700 noticing. Um, they would, uh, just say, oh, that's just her life when asked about my ailments.

00:37:30.140 Did they really? It's a, you're, you're, you know, someone with an illness and you're going to work

00:37:35.060 with a mask and they called you Bain. Wow. Um, given those conditions, I am one of the few people

00:37:42.280 our age who would actually be more likely to have catastrophic outcomes. If I caught COVID-19,

00:37:47.140 I am tired of people trying to use me to justify their draconian orders. It is not the responsibility

00:37:53.420 of everyone in my state to stay inside for me. It is my job to protect myself. And it's my family's

00:37:58.240 job to fill the gaps if needed. People need to take control of their own outcomes and assist

00:38:02.240 neighbors who might be in need. They do not need people in governor's mansions to act like the parent

00:38:06.880 and order all the kids to be in timeout. Let those of us who are high risk work from home and stop

00:38:11.500 using us as an excuse. Sorry for being long winded. I thought my future theocratic dictator

00:38:15.580 might appreciate the take of someone you're protecting at home. Uh, well, I have to say,

00:38:20.160 Kelsey, this is, I, I admire your attitude. You are, you're one of my favorite people already

00:38:25.620 in the country. Just, just based on this alone. Um, first of all, there's the Bain comment,

00:38:29.920 which you're just taking, you got thick skin. You're just taking that in stride. We just got through

00:38:33.640 with a woman who's crying over the picture on a box of butter. And then here you are on the other end

00:38:39.560 of the spectrum. So I appreciate that. And yeah, I think your attitude is, is exactly right. And I

00:38:44.660 have to say, you're not the only person I've heard this from, um, both people who have preexisting

00:38:50.280 conditions. And also I've heard from a lot of older people who are in, you know, just by the,

00:38:54.440 by the fact of their age, uh, including my own parents, by the way, you know, who are in their

00:38:58.640 sixties. And what I've heard over and over again is look, you don't need to shut down the whole

00:39:04.520 economy from me. I can protect myself. I can stay home. I can, especially when you're talking

00:39:08.920 about older people who are retired and don't need to go to work anyway. So that's what makes 0.97

00:39:15.820 it all the more absurd that many of the people were trying to protect here by shutting the whole

00:39:19.760 economy down. Um, sudden many of the people were trying to protect by shutting the workforce down

00:39:25.320 aren't even in the workforce in the first place. They can stay home and they, and they should, 0.83

00:39:31.220 we don't need to shut everybody else down. So, uh, yeah, I, I appreciate that attitude.

00:39:38.920 Um, all right. And I, and I've also said, you know, when, when I, when I have advocated for

00:39:44.760 a different plan, um, opening the economy, but still taking preventive measures. And, and, uh,

00:39:51.680 I think that, you know, there are going to be people who have preexisting conditions or are in

00:39:57.840 that vulnerable group, but who do usually need to work. They're not retired like yourself, for example,

00:40:03.260 maybe, I don't know if you, I can't, yeah, you said you have a job. Okay. So you're, you're somebody in

00:40:07.040 that group. Um, and I think people like that, we, we should help. Uh, I think the government,

00:40:13.280 I think that, you know, these stimulus checks we're sending out, it would be a lot easier to

00:40:17.400 help people and to do that if we could be more targeted. And so we let people who do not have

00:40:23.700 preexisting conditions, who are young and healthy. And so the risk for them is very, very low when it

00:40:28.160 comes to mortality and even hospitalization, we let them go to work and then we can kind of see

00:40:34.140 what's left. And the people who need to work aren't retired, but can't go because of their

00:40:38.880 preexisting conditions. Now it's going to be a lot easier. I would think to sort of target them,

00:40:43.540 people in your group and give them help if they need it rather than sending these stimulus checks

00:40:48.400 to everybody, including people who don't need it, who are still working and all of that.

00:40:52.440 Okay. This is from, uh, Shuki, I think S U S H U K I. All right. Hi Matt. I'm a big fan from

00:41:01.960 Melbourne, Australia, but I ardently disagree with your position about racism equals power

00:41:05.880 plus prejudice. I've heard you dismiss the equation out of hand a few times before, but

00:41:09.440 I think you're missing an insight that's quite helpful to the conservative cause.

00:41:12.580 I don't see anyone else talking about it and I don't quite understand why the argument from the

00:41:17.020 left normally goes something like this. One racism equals power plus prejudice. Two black people have 0.99

00:41:21.560 no power in America. Three, therefore black people can't be racist. This is the formulation I hear 1.00

00:41:26.560 often from leftists and that you rightly dismiss on your show. Uh, aside from two being ludicrous, 0.77

00:41:32.140 as you pointed out, everyone is getting the equation wrong. When power equals zero racism equals prejudice,

00:41:38.060 prejudice. It's not power times prejudice. It's plus conservatives should be clinging to that

00:41:42.860 equation, not dismissing it. It's stating that racism is magnified by power, which we all agree with

00:41:48.680 to an extent. A racist act by government like Jim Crow is far more harmful than an individual

00:41:54.000 racist incident. But inherent in the equation is that in the absence of power, racism is simply

00:41:58.620 prejudice. So the exact argument leftists use to deny the possibility of racism by non-white people

00:42:03.120 actually states the exact opposite. Uh, the only thing I find objectionable about it is that it

00:42:07.540 implies that racism equals power when there's no prejudice. I'm very interested in your thought and

00:42:11.880 thanks for all you do. Um, your show a while ago on introversion has changed the way I understand

00:42:17.140 myself and my energy levels and has improved my life immensely. Okay. Well, I think I understand

00:42:22.100 what you're saying, but I don't agree because the issue here is one of definitions, right? The left

00:42:27.060 wants to redefine racism, make the matter far more complicated than it really is as a means of

00:42:34.220 absolving non-white races of racism while laying the blame entirely at the feet of white people. 0.70

00:42:39.200 But I think making it complicated, as I said, is, is, is, is the main thing for the left. They love to do

00:42:46.800 this. They love to take very simple and straightforward, easy to understand concepts

00:42:53.180 and make them artificially complex and ambiguous and impossible to understand because then it allows

00:43:00.420 them to position themselves as the arbiters and experts on this topic. And then they can say to the

00:43:05.640 average Joe Schmo who claims, uh, to not be racist, they could say, Oh, you think you're not racist?

00:43:10.600 You don't even know what racism is. Okay. It's what's too, it's too complicated for someone dumb

00:43:14.980 like you to understand. I, I went to college and studied racism. I, I know, um, another obvious 0.99

00:43:21.480 example of when they do this would be with, uh, the issue of gender. You know, I mean, any common sense

00:43:27.860 person knows that, okay, somebody has a penis that makes them a man. Pretty simple, but the left wants to 0.99

00:43:33.800 come in. And of course, as I've covered many times, they don't, it's not like they have a new

00:43:39.000 definition for man and woman. They have no definition. All they've tried to do is just

00:43:43.140 complicate it and muddy the waters and convince you. So they don't need to convince you of their

00:43:48.780 new definition because they don't have one. They just need to convince you that the matter is far

00:43:53.000 too complicated, um, for you to really understand anyway. And so just, so just let them handle it.

00:43:59.200 Okay. Go with whatever they have to say, because you don't understand it. That's the move. That's

00:44:04.200 the, that's the, uh, the ploy. But, um, just like sex is actually not complicated. This is not

00:44:11.820 complicated either. And racism and prejudice are not two distinct things. Prejudice is simply

00:44:17.560 having a preconceived, often negative preconceived notion about something or someone. That's what

00:44:26.160 prejudice is. Now, and it's not always prejudice against a person. It could be prejudice against,

00:44:31.440 you could have all kinds of prejudices. Racism is the belief that a certain race

00:44:36.900 is inferior to your own in some way. So racism is racial prejudice. It is a form of prejudice.

00:44:45.360 It's not two different things. And you notice how power has nothing at all to do with it. It is

00:44:51.040 totally irrelevant. Yes. A powerful racist is more dangerous than a racist with no power,

00:44:56.480 but that doesn't, that doesn't, uh, make the powerful racist more racist. He's just as racist. 0.97

00:45:02.900 He's equal in racism. He just has a greater ability to act in harmful ways based on his racism, 0.97

00:45:08.260 but that's all racism is very, very simple. If you think that a certain race is inferior to your own,

00:45:16.380 um, you're racist. And if you don't think that you're not racist. And yes, that means that you

00:45:24.740 could even have a negative attitude or nay, you could believe negative stereotypes about groups of

00:45:30.380 people and not actually be racist. You could be rude. It could be insulting. There are other negative

00:45:36.020 words we could use to describe you. But if you don't think that this other race is actually inferior to 1.00

00:45:40.720 your own, then you're not racist because that's what racism is. It's very simple concept.

00:45:49.160 Now, the other thing about trying to make it complicated is that we also know the left,

00:45:53.240 not only do they say that only white people can be racist, what they also say even more absurdly,

00:45:59.240 they say that all whites actually are racist inherently, which can only make sense to you.

00:46:07.520 If you believe that racism is again, this ambiguous, complicated, complex thing, when it's not,

00:46:13.120 if you understand that racism is simply the belief that a race of people is inferior to your own,

00:46:18.120 you realize that the idea of it being inherent based on the color of your skin is nonsense.

00:46:25.780 No, people don't inherently believe that other races are inferior to their own. They don't.

00:46:30.880 You have to be conditioned to believe that. That's a belief that has to be instilled in you.

00:46:37.520 By the culture, by your parents, by your family. I think kids, if you leave kids to their own

00:46:44.100 devices, especially in modern America, look, in modern America, in many places of the country,

00:46:50.120 in many areas in the country, where there's a lot of racial diversity, and I can think about my own

00:46:55.360 experience growing up, you know, going to public school on the East Coast, living in a very racially

00:47:01.060 diverse community. And so from the age of four or five, I'm in school, and I'm in school with kids

00:47:07.320 of all different races. And it just never occurred to me to see it as anything strange or weird. I

00:47:16.160 mean, obviously, I noticed that people look differently from me, but it would never have

00:47:20.400 even occurred to me to be racist or to think that they're inferior because they look different or

00:47:24.960 because they have a different color of skin. That just, you don't think of it. Most kids in a

00:47:30.940 modern kindergarten or first grade class, you know, they're friends with all different kids

00:47:36.120 of different races, and it's fine. There's no problem. It's only society has to come in and

00:47:43.040 complicate it and start dividing, which our society actually does do that. Now, it's not socially

00:47:50.900 acceptable anymore to come out and to, you know, tell kids that certain races are inferior, so you

00:47:56.040 don't have that anymore. But you do have race baiters and race hustlers in the media and in

00:48:01.580 academia and all over the place who are trying to divide and make different races suspicious of one 0.98

00:48:06.940 another and sow this kind of discord and contempt and suspicion and everything else, which is a damn 0.96

00:48:13.100 shame. Because if you just let it alone and let people live, there wouldn't be an issue. I think

00:48:20.080 about that famous clip from Morgan Freeman, where he was asked on, I think it was 2020, you know,

00:48:28.160 years ago, and he said, what do we do about racism? How do we solve racism? And his answer was, stop

00:48:32.540 talking about it. Just shut up about it and let people live and it'll be fine. Now, that wasn't always

00:48:43.100 the solution. But nowadays, it could be. All right, let's leave it there. All right. Hope you guys

00:48:51.560 have a great weekend. Find a way to get out of the house, at least, if you can do so without getting

00:48:57.140 arrested. And I'll talk to you next week. Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - April 17, 2020

Ep. 468 - It’s Time To Re-Open

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