Ep. 470 - Don't Sneer At The Lockdown Protestors If You Still Have A Job
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The people who are protesting the lockdowns across the country have been called selfish. Is it easy when you have a job and an income to call people selfish for wanting their job and income back? Also, 5 headlines including Trump's immigration moratorium, and apparently fake flyers for an anti-lockdown protest have been making their way online. And finally, in our daily cancellation, I have to cancel someone who is near and dear to me.
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Today on The Matt Walsh Show, the people who are protesting the lockdowns across the country have
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been called selfish. The interesting thing is that most of the people making that accusation
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have themselves jobs and an income. So isn't it rather easy when you have a job and an income
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to call people selfish for wanting their job and income back? Also, five headlines including
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Trump's immigration moratorium, which was just announced, and apparently fake flyers for an
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anti-lockdown protest, a fake anti-lockdown protest meant to discredit the anti-lockdown
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movement have been making their way online. So we're going to talk about that. And finally,
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in our daily cancellation, I have to once again, unfortunately, cancel someone who is very near
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and dear to me. So we'll get to that coming up. But first, as I said, thousands of people across
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the country have taken to the streets to protest the draconian lockdown measures that have destroyed
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the economy and millions of lives along with it, which is which is this development should not be
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a surprise to anyone. Anyone with two brain cells saw this coming. Now, many in the media seem to be
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perplexed about this development. They just can't understand why people will be protesting because
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they themselves are doing quite well. They're still pulling an income. They can still do their cable
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news hits from their home studios. And so they figure what what's the big deal? They can't imagine why
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anybody will be so upset about being asked to stay home and watch Netflix and play video games.
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As in fact, Patton Oswalt, the famous comedian, said in a tweet where he was complaining and making
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fun of the protesters and saying, all you have to do is stay home and play video games and watch Netflix.
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But those who lack the privilege of media personalities or famous comedians may find that
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Netflix and video games, if they can afford those things at this point, are paltry comfort when they
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return home from waiting in line at a food bank for six and a half hours. Now, agree or disagree with
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the methods of the protesters. The fact is that any reasonable and decent person should at least
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understand why they are protesting. You should at least be able to sympathize with what has motivated
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them to take this step. In the past month, 22 million people have lost their jobs. And that's just
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the tip of the iceberg, plus another several million who didn't qualify for unemployment or haven't applied
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or couldn't apply because the websites are crashing from all the traffic to them. Now, contrary to how
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some, including Dr. Fauci, have characterized it, these numbers, 22 million unemployed, this represents
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more than a mere inconvenience. This represents Americans who have lost everything. And not because
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of some natural disaster or some act of God, but because the government has forbid them from going to
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work. Now, you might say that the reason why they've lost their job is because of the coronavirus.
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No, that's not the reason. That's not the reason. The reason is, the direct immediate reason is that
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the government said you can't go to work and shut down their business. There was a woman at a protest
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in Maryland. I think I showed this picture yesterday, but she held a cardboard sign saying she wanted to
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save her business and I need to work to live. That's what the sign said. And that's why she's at the
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protest. Now, Democrat politicians will call that woman selfish and talking heads on MSNBC,
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as one talking head did, said that the protesters are part of a death cult. And so I guess they would
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say of that woman, she's in a death cult. But it seems to me that she's a woman trying to salvage
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the business that she's poured her sweat and blood and tears into. And so that's what she wants to do.
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And she wants to survive. And those seem like perfectly reasonable goals, if you ask me.
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You can disagree with her approach if you want, though honestly, I don't see any problem with her
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approach. It's a very American approach to go and protest and make your voice hurt. But to sneer at
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her and other protesters, as so many in the media have done, is morally repugnant. And meanwhile,
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these people are trying to pretend that they have the moral high ground, that they are the selfless
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ones who are so concerned about sick people. And so they're the selfless ones. The selfish people
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are the ones who are protesting the lockdown. But the truth is the opposite of this. Because almost all
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the people, at least in media, who are making this criticism, they still have jobs and an income.
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So what they're saying is, to the protesters, I want you to be unemployed. I want you to be forced
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to go to a food bank so you can feed your kids so that I can feel safe and so that my family can feel
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safe. Now, you can argue that all you want, but don't pretend that you're being selfless. That is a
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selfish position, where you want other people to suffer and sacrifice for you.
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So I would like to propose an unofficial rule for any further discussion of these protests and
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lockdowns, the lockdowns that prompted them. Before you give your opinion, you should first have to
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reveal whether you still have an income yourself. Before you go on to say how you feel about the
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protests, how you feel about the lockdowns, you should begin by saying, I still have an income,
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or I don't have an income, but that should be the first thing out of your mouth. Because the rest of
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us would like to know if you are earning an income while you smear your fellow Americans for wanting
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to earn an income. It is, as I said, rather striking that the loudest voices in favor of the shutdown
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are primarily people who have lost nothing because of it. It's bad enough for those who've lost nothing
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to wag their fingers at those who've lost everything, but to call them selfish.
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That just takes hypocrisy to a whole new level. Now, since I am proposing this rule myself,
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I should disclose the fact that I myself am a media personality. I'm still earning an income.
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In fact, the lockdown has been a relatively light burden on my family. I have lost money from it,
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not insignificant amount of it, but I'm still making money. I still have an income.
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We already homeschooled our kids, and so there was no real adjustment there.
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We live out in the country. We got plenty of space for our kids to go out and play. I can even still
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do the main recreational thing I like to do, which is go fish. I can still do that, at least in my
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state. I'm still allowed to, at least where I currently live, I'm allowed to do that, or at
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least they haven't stopped me from doing it. I personally tend to be a bit of a hermit anyway,
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so isolation from the general public for me is no great horror. That's the position I'm in. I have an
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income, and I'm working from home. We've had to adjust, but it hasn't been a huge, I wouldn't
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call it a huge sacrifice for us. Now, if the economy continues to crater and we wind up in a
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full-on depression, then I certainly will not be immune from the consequences of that. Very few of
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us will be immune from those consequences. I will not be immune. My family won't be immune, so we
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could, down the road, we could be in line to make enormous sacrifices as well, but as of right now,
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I'm doing all right. Here's my point. I realize that not everybody is in my shoes. Not everybody
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can work from home. I don't know why, for so many others in the media, why is this such a difficult
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thing to understand? I'm not some sort of great humanitarian for having this attitude. It's just,
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it's logic is all it is. That's all. I understand that I can work from home. Not everybody can.
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Not everyone can so easily isolate themselves from society. Some people have real jobs that require
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them to go out and do things. We, and we still need that in society. It's a good thing.
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We could never be a society where everybody can work from. There are people have to go out and
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physically do things out in the real world. And many of them are not allowed to do that now.
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So what has been a light burden for me has been a crushing weight for so many others.
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Who am I to call people selfish for wanting income and stability when I already have those things?
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So if I'm going to be outraged at anyone, my outrage should be directed not at them,
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but at the government that has done this to them.
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Speaking of the government, the moral outrage here is compounded by the fact that people in government,
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just like people in the media, are still living comfortable lives,
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living in relative luxury, while regular Americans lose everything. Now, I think that Congress,
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they should have to forfeit their pay. They shouldn't be making a paycheck throughout all of this. But of
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course, that would require them to pass some sort of rule or something, or at least to volunteer to
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lose their pay, and they're not going to do that. Because all of this stuff they talk about,
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we have to make sacrifices. We're all in this together. Oh, shut up. You're not making any
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sacrifices. You're making even fewer sacrifices than I am, because you're also in government.
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So I, along with everybody else, I've lost liberty and freedom. You have gained power. So you keep
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your income while many people lose theirs. While many people lose their liberties, you gain power.
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So it's not just that you haven't sacrificed in government, you have gained from it.
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Now, this dichotomy was captured, I think, in dramatic fashion in an ad that the Trump campaign
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released last night. This is truly one of the most devastating political ads I've ever seen in my
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life. So just buckle up for this. Watch. We turn now to that $350 billion fund to help small
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businesses and its workers get through the shutdown. It will be up to Congress to restock it. But
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Democrats blocking that move this morning. They asked for a quarter of a trillion dollars
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in 48 hours. I said, well, I don't think so. They objected, and I congratulate the Senate Democrats.
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Speaker Pelosi, what are you going to share with us from your home?
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Chocolate candy. Thousands have been forced to wait for hours at food banks all across the country.
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This is chocolate, and then we have some other chocolate here. We just got it restocked with
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the ice cream. You don't want to eat up everything at one time. I can't do it much longer. I'm trying
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so hard. We were, shall we say, enjoying. Having to admit that, yeah, we're starving, and I like it
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better than anything else. Taping this segment, there are 22 million people out of work. This
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specific program is about stopping job losses today. This is hurting people bad. Other people
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in our family look for some other flavors, but. Right now it's a survival move. You don't know where
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that next something else is going to come from. I don't know what I would have done if ice cream
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were not invented. I just wonder. Wow. First of all, politically, that is brutal. Brutal,
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and deservedly so. It captures an important truth that all of the sacrifices that are being made are
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being made by regular citizens. It's a pretty profound illustration there when you see this
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contrast between people who are waiting in lines at food banks that stretch literally miles. We're
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talking about lines at food banks that are miles long. While that is happening, Nancy Pelosi has her
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$24,000 fridge stocked with ice cream. The people behind these lockdown policies and those who support
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the policies do not appreciate the toll that these policies are taking on regular citizens, and I think
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that is a very relevant fact. Here's another great example. As the price of oil was tanking yesterday,
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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez couldn't help herself. She has since deleted this, but this is what she tweeted.
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You can see it right here. You absolutely love to see it, she says. You love to see it.
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Many Americans are going to lose their jobs, and many Americans already have. Now, because of this,
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many more Americans are going to lose their jobs. This is going to have a devastating effect,
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especially in places like Texas and Louisiana. Americans are going to lose their livelihoods over it,
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and AOC loves to see it. She loves to see Americans losing their jobs, because there's no skin off her
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nose. She's still got her job. Everything's fine for her. She's living her life, living her truth.
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And meanwhile, she sees this as advantageous for her ideological agenda, which is green energy.
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And this is the attitude that the people in government have.
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So maybe you begin to see why there are these protests. One other point I want to make about
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lockdowns and ending the lockdowns and everything, and we'll talk about that in just a second.
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these lockdowns and specifically ending the lockdowns
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Maybe there are, there may be people, there are lots of people, certainly, who want to go back to
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work so they can feed their families. And as the argument goes, okay, that's all well and good.
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But, and maybe you want to take on that risk, but now you're forcing other people to take that risk
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Right. And this is the response to the argument that people should be allowed to
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take on a risk if they want to, so they can work and feed their families.
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There are all kinds of risks that we take in life.
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And generally we'll, we let adults decide if that's a risk that they think is worth taking.
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But the response is, aren't you forcing other people to take the risk too, because you can spread it.
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And that's why I want to say that while I, just to clarify here, and I think I can speak for most
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people who support ending the lockdowns. I haven't heard anyone take the opposite view on this.
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So this is my, my view. Uh, we end the lockdowns, allowing people to leave their homes again,
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and most importantly, go to work so that they can support their families.
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That's, that's the position. That's, that's what we're advocating. Allowing people to leave the home.
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Here's the point. We're not saying that people should be forced to leave their home.
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I, I certainly don't think that. I don't think you should be mandated to leave your home.
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I just think you should be allowed to in the United States of America.
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And especially when you can't afford food to feed your kids.
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So I think that that really addresses the, that concern, doesn't it?
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Of someone going to work, taking the risk, but then spreading it.
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If you don't want to leave your house, don't leave your house.
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If you want to stay locked in your home for another six months or year, you're free to do that.
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If, I mean, if you can find a way, right? If you, if you, if you're making it through the lockdown,
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okay, right now you're working from home or whatever, and you found then, and you want to keep doing that,
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keep doing it. So what's the problem here? People who want to leave their homes and participate in
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society can. And if you don't want to, and I don't even mean this in a combative way. I really,
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this is very sincere. If you're still worried about it, you're still afraid, maybe for good
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reason. Maybe you have a preexisting conditions. Maybe you're in, in, in one of the vulnerable
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categories. Well, in that case, I wouldn't blame you at all. I think it's a very good idea to stay.
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Even if the lockdowns are lifted, uh, maybe you stay for as long as you can, uh, depending on your
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situation, depending on what your preexisting condition is, right? Depending on where you live
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too. So there are a lot of factors that work into this, but, uh, if you're in, in that category,
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then, then, you know, you, maybe you stay home. You continue to self-isolate.
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And I also think, as I've said before, that people who are in those vulnerable, vulnerable
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groups, we should keep helping them and the government should help them. Um, and it'd be a
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lot easier to do rather than giving checks to everybody. Even people don't need it. If we can
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target, if we can be a lot more targeted in our approach, helping people who actually have to stay
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home because of preexisting conditions. Okay. So I think that that kind of addresses that issue,
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that those people can continue to self-isolate. As I've said many times, you know,
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nursing homes should remain locked down, of course, for, for the foreseeable future,
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because we know how devastating this has been in nursing homes. Um, and then anybody else,
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maybe you don't have a preexisting condition. Maybe you're younger and healthy, but you just are
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afraid of it. You don't want to go out of your house. Well, I'm not saying you should be forced to.
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You could stay home too. The people who, who feel like they need to,
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or want to, to get back out and resume their lives should be allowed to do that.
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All right, let's move on to news headlines. Uh, number one,
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president Trump sent out a tweet yesterday with an announcement in light of the attack. Uh, this is,
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this is his tweet says in light of the attack from the invisible enemy, as well as the need to protect
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the jobs of our great American citizens, I will be signing an executive order to temporarily suspend
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immigration into the United States. Uh, this apparently will be a moratorium on immigration
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through the Southern border. Obviously it makes sense to do this. My only problem is that he
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didn't do it two months ago, but, uh, or maybe even two years ago, frankly, but the general idea
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is, uh, clearly, clearly good. Now, of course, as you might expect, some on the left are calling it
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bigoted, yada, yada, et cetera, and so forth. But that is just a very stupid, unserious position to
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take here. And it can be ignored, uh, and should be ignored, especially coming from people who up
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to this point, haven't met a government action in response to the virus that they didn't like
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shutting down churches, arresting people for, you know, going to drive-in services,
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uh, closing up playgrounds and parks and beaches. Oh yeah. I love all that.
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But no stopping people from coming in from foreign countries in the middle of pandemic. No,
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that's too far. We can't do that. No, that's, that's one government action that definitely
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Okay. Number two, as we've covered here several times, cities around the country, including New York
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have been releasing prisoners back into the population in order to, in order to protect them.
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That would be the prisoners, not the population. And after weeks of this insane suicidal policy,
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New York and other cities have developed a problem, uh, wherein the released criminals are going right
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back to being criminals and starting to commit crimes again, because that's what they do. It's
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their whole thing. You might say, well, mayor Bill de Blasio of New York spoke about this,
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uh, about the released prisoners committing crimes again during a briefing this week. And this is what
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he said. I think it's unconscionable just on a human level that folks were shown mercy.
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And this is what some of them have done. Unconscionable. He says
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now unconscionable means that something is shocking, shockingly bad. So mayor Bill de Blasio,
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who to emphasize was elected mayor of New York city, our largest city thinks it's shocking that
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criminals would commit crimes after being given a get out of jail, free car card. He's shocked by
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this. Didn't see it coming. Didn't see it now. No way. You're telling me, wait, wait, wait, those
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criminals we released are committing crimes. What? What's just unconscionable. Now for, for most leftists
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who are claiming to be shocked by something like this, I would, I would say that that's bogus and,
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and obviously they're not really shocked. They knew that was going to happen, but de Blasio
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is such a dumb goober that I might actually buy it. I think he might actually be that stupid
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that this, that this surprises him. Um, number three, reading now from the daily wire says in a
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press release issued Monday, the Los Angeles County department of public health announced that the early
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results of its highly anticipated joint study with the university of Southern California on COVID-19
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infections, uh, in the County suggests that infections from the new Corona virus are far
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more widespread and a fatality rate much lower in LA County than previously thought. And then it goes
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into the numbers. You can read the report on the daily wire. Um, but the point is a lot more people
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have it than, than has previously been reported, which obviously is good news. It's good news because
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that means that, um, number one, the fatality rate rates, if this holds true across the country,
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the fatality rate is much lower than what they're reporting. And it also means that there are
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probably many States where the crisis has already passed because so many people have already had it
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and they've already seen the worst of it. So, uh, number four, this is something you need to watch
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out for. Maybe you've seen this picture that I'll show you now floating around social media.
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I've seen it many times. Uh, and when I first, the first time I saw it immediately, I thought
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something doesn't look right here. Uh, this is a photo of a flyer from an anti-lockdown protest in
00:24:54.800
New York. And, uh, the flyer says, end the lockdown rally. No mask needed. Bring your children,
00:25:02.040
non-essential workers. If you're sick, still come. It's your right. Uh, Sunday, April 19th conference,
00:25:09.100
house lawn, keep America. Great MAGA hashtag and the shutdown NYC. Now, um, the left has been making
00:25:18.760
hay with this because it proves right. It proves that the anti-lockdown people are a bunch of suicidal
00:25:24.220
MAGA cult maniacs, actually encouraging sick people to come, uh, telling people not to wear masks and,
00:25:32.440
um, even throwing in, you know, bring your children. But I, I, as I said, I saw this in,
00:25:38.800
and immediately my BS detector went off. Now, sure. It's, it's possible that some actual maniac was
00:25:44.680
crazy enough to put this flyer up and try to plan a rally, inviting sick people to come. That's
00:25:50.780
possible, but it is not very likely because despite how they're portrayed by the media,
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the anti-lockdown folks are not a bunch of comic book villains. Okay. This is not Joker putting these,
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these events on. So the fact that this flyer feeds right into the caricature of the, of the protesters
00:26:10.100
that the media presents should tell you something. It should raise a red flag. Uh, and it tells you
00:26:15.700
that this is probably fake. So I looked into it myself and first of all, this rally was supposed
00:26:24.080
to be on Sunday. Nobody showed up apparently. According to reports, nobody came, not one person.
00:26:31.320
Now, if this was a rally actually being organized by some group or some person, they at least would
00:26:38.280
be at the rally. I've been to plenty of political rallies and protests in my day that were sparsely
00:26:43.860
attended, but the one thing you can always count on is the people who, who organized it will be there
00:26:49.600
at least oftentimes looking very embarrassed that nobody else came, but they're going to be there.
00:26:54.500
So if nobody came, what does that tell you? It tells you that nobody organized it. It wasn't a
00:26:59.200
real rally. Uh, then also the hashtag on the flyer hashtag, what was it? End the shutdown NYC or
00:27:05.300
whatever it was. I checked that, that hashtag and, um, nobody had tweeted the hashtag. There were two
00:27:12.260
tweets with that hashtag and they were both making fun of the flyer. Now, if you're organizing an event
00:27:17.580
and you come up with a hashtag for it, the whole point of the hashtag is that you're going to tweet
00:27:21.960
on that hashtag to try to promote the event. That's the whole point, but there are no tweets,
00:27:29.120
which would, so are we supposed to believe that somebody was organizing this event? They came up
00:27:32.640
with a hashtag. They went around posting flyers around town. They never once posted on Twitter.
00:27:37.660
Hey, end the shutdown NYC hashtag, whatever. Um, no, that doesn't make any sense. Also no group
00:27:43.840
claimed credit for this or, or, or, uh, you know, there's no name attached, no website attached to
00:27:49.220
it. So factoring all that together, what does it mean? It means that this is fake. Um, like this is
00:27:55.600
like 99.9% fake. I'll allow for a 0.1% chance that it's real, but, uh, 99.9% this is fake. And that
00:28:03.340
tells you that the other side of this debate, uh, they are resorting to some devious tactics,
00:28:08.800
including fake flyers for fake rallies to try to discredit those who want to end the shutdown.
00:28:14.440
And that, you know, that should really, um, make you wary. And when you start seeing media reports
00:28:22.340
about rallies and things, you just keep this in mind. Uh, if you see, if you, if you've seen footage
00:28:28.180
of a rally and you see somebody with a really inappropriate or weird or crazy looking sign or
00:28:33.380
something, you have to think, is that person actually part of that rally or is that someone
00:28:38.860
who's there to discredit? Um, so that should tell you that, uh, number five, speaking of things that
00:28:47.140
smell funny, two doctors were on a coronavirus podcast this week, and they were talking about
00:28:53.660
the dangers that farts pose, uh, during this pandemic. Now one doctor, Dr. Swan in his name is
00:28:59.980
his name. He said that it might be possible for the virus to be spread through your, uh, southerly
00:29:06.380
winds, which is why it's recommended that, and this is very important. Um, the health recommendations
00:29:13.100
here are that if you're going to fart, make sure you wear pants, uh, which, you know, is, is, so it
00:29:19.140
might be, it's a little bit of a burden there, but, but again, we all have to make sacrifices. And so,
00:29:23.280
uh, you know, generally, if you're out in public, you want to be wearing pants anyway. Um,
00:29:27.660
but especially during these times, I would say, now this is what the doctor said, quote,
00:29:32.560
uh, I think that we should, what we should do in terms of social distancing and being safe is that
00:29:36.560
you don't fart close to other people and that you don't fart with your bottom bear.
00:29:41.880
So this is, we're talking about fart, social distancing, social fart distancing. Um,
00:29:47.560
and, uh, anyway, this is one measure that I can certainly get behind or rather, I guess I'd rather
00:29:53.580
be out in front of it. But, uh, anyway, this is all to say we need to quarantine Eric Swalwell
00:29:59.840
ASAP before it's too late. Moving on to your daily, um, cancellation today. I'm, I'm once
00:30:10.560
again, unfortunately going to have to cancel. I hate to do it. I really do, but I'm gonna have
00:30:15.240
to cancel my wife again. And this is, I think it's the second or third time I've canceled her
00:30:18.800
on the show. And I'll tell you why. And you're going to agree with my decision. Once you, once
00:30:23.040
you, once you hear what she did. So yesterday I had the brilliant idea to give my, both of my
00:30:30.020
sons a haircut. I was gonna give them a buzz cut. Okay. Three years old and six years old are my
00:30:36.440
sons. And they both look at this point, cause they haven't had a haircut like the rest of us.
00:30:40.820
And so they look like they're wearing mops on their heads or like, or like maybe something like
00:30:44.140
some sort of woodland creature crawled on top of their heads and died. And so I said, you know,
00:30:49.960
this is, is not good. Uh, it's not good for their self-esteem. It's, uh, not good for me. Cause I
00:30:54.960
have to look at it. It's not good for hygiene, you know, and, and, uh, the coronavirus can hide up in
00:30:59.560
the hair. You know, I've read that too. So I said to my wife, I'll cut their hair. Now I happen to be
00:31:06.420
a celebrated stylist. So I figured this idea would go over well with my wife, but she recoiled
00:31:13.700
for some reason. Actually, she refused to allow my oldest son to go anywhere near, uh, me with,
00:31:22.080
with when I had the clippers because Luke, my oldest has blonde curly hair, which my wife is
00:31:27.640
very protective of. Uh, in fact, he didn't get any kind of haircut, even a professional haircut. I think
00:31:32.060
until he was like four years old. And so by the time he was four, he had like these long golden,
00:31:37.080
he looked like a, like a hippie with a perm. He had this ridiculous looking hair. And finally he
00:31:40.600
got a haircut. So she said, I can't cut Luke's hair, but my youngest son, Jeremiah was offered
00:31:45.000
up as a sacrifice, much like Abraham offering Isaac. My, my wife offered the three-year-old up to the
00:31:50.000
slaughter. And, but she doubted me the whole time. She critiqued, harassed me. Uh, and it is for this
00:31:56.420
doubt, this lack of faith, this lack of loyalty that she was being canceled. And ultimately she
00:32:02.560
was put to shame because my, my son's hair turned out beautifully. Honestly, the kids never looked
00:32:07.500
so good. I was masterful. Uh, I discovered within, within myself, not only a natural ability as a
00:32:14.080
hairstylist, but frankly, a passion for it. I think I might quit my job and become a hairstylist full time.
00:32:19.900
Uh, I just discovered this is something I'm very good at. So here, take a look. Here's a picture. I
00:32:23.520
blurred out his face. Cause I don't want him on. I don't want his face on camera, but, um, uh, here's,
00:32:28.100
I just want you to see the work that I did. This is the haircut. That's pretty good. You have to admit
00:32:32.000
notice the fading of the size, the way I blended it all together. You know, they spend 10 years
00:32:38.940
teaching this in hairstylist school, 10 years. I mastered it in five minutes and you can see he has
00:32:45.000
kind of the, the edgy sort of styling that I did on up top there, kind of a messy, spiky, but still
00:32:50.680
classy look. Right. Uh, so it looks like he's, he's ready for a business meeting, but he's also
00:32:55.380
ready to go out and play on the playground. Uh, and that's kind of what I was going for. So
00:33:00.160
I just thought I did a fantastic job. And now my next goal is to give my daughter a haircut.
00:33:08.960
I don't know if that's going to go over well or not, but I, but the point is I have a, I have,
00:33:12.780
apparently I have a real passion for fashion and a skill. And so that's why my wife is canceled.
00:33:19.320
Uh, and you know what else is canceled? Bad hair. All right. In this house,
00:33:24.440
bad hair is canceled. Okay. Now we go to emails and I got a, why I'm wrong email here. Now, um,
00:33:31.520
I feel like it's getting repetitive here with these, uh, coronavirus emails telling me why I'm a monster
00:33:36.700
who wants to kill, kill the elderly. But, uh, this is, it's just the, it's the same point repeated
00:33:41.660
over and over again. Um, this is from Justin says, hi, Matt, I've been very disappointed with your
00:33:46.340
coronavirus takes recently. It's hard for me not to see it as highly selfish. Yes. You're young
00:33:51.440
and healthy, but not everybody is. If you're going out in public, um, and you have the virus,
00:33:57.360
you could be directly killing multiple people. Would you press a button to kill three people just
00:34:02.180
so you can get your normal life back? That's what it's like. This is, this is actually the second
00:34:07.380
or third time. I've specifically seen this press a button thing. Uh, someone tweeted that to me
00:34:12.160
yesterday, the going out in public during the coronavirus or going back to your normal life,
00:34:18.380
going to your job is like pressing a button and killing people. I don't know if this is the latest,
00:34:24.340
this is the latest argument. It's like pressing about, no, it's not like that at all. So there's
00:34:28.600
a few problems here that we have to go through. First of all, um, even if I was sick and I went out in
00:34:39.480
public, it would not be exactly the same as pressing a button and directly killing it. It's,
00:34:45.240
it's not the same when you're sick. Now, if you're sick and you intentionally try to infect other
00:34:50.900
people, uh, and then they die from the illness, then I would say that's effectively the same as
00:34:55.380
shooting them. Sure. I agree with you there. But if you're sick and you go out and you, uh,
00:35:00.960
unintentionally infect somebody else, it's morally not the same as shooting them in the head. It's just
00:35:06.420
not, it is not, it isn't, you're not directly responsible. You're not, you're not directly
00:35:10.240
and intentionally killing someone. And there's a big difference there. So just, just to be clear,
00:35:14.900
there's a big difference between intentionally killing someone by shooting them or pressing a
00:35:18.740
button, um, or accidentally getting them sick. Now, am I saying that if you're sick with the
00:35:25.200
coronavirus, you should go out in public? Of course not. That would be reckless, stupid. Yes,
00:35:29.600
it would be selfish. It would be all of those things. And if you know you, you are sick with a
00:35:34.700
potentially deadly virus and you go out in public and you get somebody else sick, then yes, I do
00:35:38.620
think you're partially responsible for, for, uh, killing them, but it's just, it's ethically not
00:35:43.400
the same as directly shooting somebody in the head. So, or pressing a button or whatever it is,
00:35:47.120
pressing a button and I guess what blowing them up, or I don't know how this button thing is supposed
00:35:50.740
to work. So that's, that's the first thing. Um, but I am not advocating that if you know you're sick,
00:36:00.080
that you go out in public, it's not what I'm saying. That's, that's not the discussion here.
00:36:05.840
In fact, part of my, not just me, but part of the proposal of opening up a society is that if you're
00:36:11.880
sick and you have symptoms, of course you stay home. We, we quarantine people who are sick or who,
00:36:17.520
who we know have been exposed, who we know have been exposed to the virus. And that's actually what
00:36:22.380
a quarantine is supposed to be. So what I'm saying is we should have actual quarantine policies,
00:36:27.700
quarantine and isolation. If you're sick, you're isolated. If you, if we know you've been
00:36:32.660
exposed to someone who's sick, like somebody in your house is sick. Okay. So we know you've
00:36:37.200
been exposed to it. And especially in a prolonged way where the, the chance of transmission is pretty
00:36:41.920
high, then, then we quarantine you. So I'm totally in favor of, of actual quarantines and, and, uh,
00:36:49.900
and isolation policies. What I'm not in favor of is a blanket policy
00:36:56.700
imposed by the government, locking everybody in their homes, even people who for all, for as far
00:37:04.540
as we know are healthy people who we have no reason or no evidence to think that they, that
00:37:09.380
they are sick or that they've been exposed. Um, and then in the process, cratering the economy
00:37:14.580
and, uh, causing millions of people to lose their jobs and causing them to have to go to food banks
00:37:19.780
and everything else. Okay. That's what I'm against. That's my issue. And, uh, as far as the, the risk
00:37:26.500
of infecting somebody else, listen, I go back to what I said before that, um, anyone who does not
00:37:36.140
want to take a risk. And if we do this right, and we're smart about it, it's not a very significant
00:37:43.740
risk. Now I realized that people, as far as we know, pre-symptomatic people can still spread the
00:37:49.620
virus. We don't know how effectively they can spread it. Probably not very effectively. Um,
00:37:55.180
but we can do it. We can go a long way to stopping the spread by keeping people who have symptoms at
00:38:01.520
home. And so if we, if we do that, we still practice social distancing. Uh, I'm in favor of wearing
00:38:09.480
masks, you know, especially in certain environments. Uh, I don't, you know, I don't think you should
00:38:13.600
have to wear a mask when you're walking down the, down the street or going for a jog or something
00:38:16.440
in the park. But, uh, if you're in a crowded environment, I think it makes sense to wear a
00:38:20.740
mask, of course. And so if we do that, we keep the elderly people at home, people who are especially
00:38:26.240
vulnerable, we keep them at home. And if you yourself don't want to go out, you don't want to
00:38:30.200
take that risk. You don't have to, you're welcome to stay home. And, um, and that means that
00:38:36.100
everybody who's out and about in society, it's because they've decided that it's worth it to
00:38:40.720
them. It's worth it to take that minimal risk. Maybe it's worth it because they just want to
00:38:45.640
go about their lives. Maybe it's worth it because they feel like they have to work to live, uh,
00:38:49.620
which I totally understand. And there we go. And I, I, so, so I think that that this idea that,
00:38:57.100
um, it could be spread to someone who, uh, has no interest in being out in society and
00:39:05.960
taking the minimal risk. Well, I don't see that because they can still stay home.
00:39:09.980
So what exactly is the issue here? I don't see it. Well, thanks for the email and we'll,
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uh, wrap it up there. Thanks everybody for watching. Thanks for listening. Godspeed.
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