Ep. 473 - The Media Openly Roots Against America
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Summary
The media continues to openly root against the United States, which is something they've been doing for decades. But it's been even more grotesque and getting more grotesque by the day. Also, 5 headlines, including a whole bunch of congressmen who apparently don't understand how to wear a mask and don t understand why we are wearing masks, and I think need to be reported to the various snitch lines for their violations of social distance.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, the media continues to openly root against the United States,
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which is something, of course, they've been doing for decades.
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But it's been even more grotesque and getting more grotesque by the day during this crisis.
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Also, five headlines, including a whole bunch of congressmen who apparently don't understand
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how to wear a mask and don't understand why we are wearing masks and I think need to be
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reported to the various snitch lines for their violations of social distancing.
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And today in our daily cancellation, I will be canceling everyone, just everybody.
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It's time. It needs to be done. And I'll explain why. All of that is coming up.
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I wanted to just mention one thing. And I don't know if I'm alone in this among people who wear
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glasses, but I've discovered that if you don't wear glasses, you can't relate to this. Okay.
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Because you're not, you're not in the victim group, you know, that we're in as visually impaired
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individuals. But apparently you can't wear glasses and also a face mask and still be able to see
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because the glasses get fogged up. So I try to go to the store, I got the face mask on and I'm
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wandering around the store, bumping into things because my glasses are getting fogged up.
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Because as you're breathing, the air from your mouth goes up into your glasses and causes this
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fog situation. And so now I'm starting to think of all the doctors and surgeons that you see that
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wear glasses. I mean, I had an Achilles surgery last year and my doctor wore glasses and now I'm
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realizing that he couldn't see a thing he was doing the entire time. And I'm just now realizing this
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and I wish I didn't know it, to be honest with you. So if there's any solution to that,
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that you're aware of as a glass, any, any glass, glasses wearing people, if you've discovered a
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solution to the fogging of the glasses, please let me know for my own, my own safety and the
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safety of those around me. Okay. Well, it's not news. I suppose that the media roots against America,
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especially in recent years as, and, and especially now that America is governed by a man that they
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despise with every fiber of their being. But this spectacle of the media rooting against us
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has been especially grotesque and outrageous and traitorous, traitorous, at least in a moral sense
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during this coronavirus crisis, I think. And it makes you think back to the very early days of 9-11.
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I've been thinking about this a lot. It's like, you know, we, we've, we've always talked about
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right after 9-11, there was, at least it seemed at the time, there was a very real national unity
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for a while. Didn't last, it was temporary, but even the media for the most part, Democrats,
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Republicans, most everybody for a time, a brief glorious time in history, there seemed to be a real
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sense of common purpose and everybody was on the same side for at least a few days.
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But we never had that with this. And I wonder if we're even capable of it anymore. I think,
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I think probably not. I think we're at a point in, in our, in our, in our, in our culture where
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we're not capable of that kind of unity, even when we're facing a common threat. So I want to talk
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about just one example of the media rooting against us and celebrating, seeming to celebrate
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our, in their minds, demise. And in fact, before I do that, just one other really egregious recent
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example that I happened to see online when I was, when I was, yesterday. This is a woman named Samira
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Khan, who's a foreign policy analyst. And here she is. Now follow this exchange on Twitter. Samira says,
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sick of the following COVID-19 talking points. One, it's a hoax. Two, severity and death count
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equals exaggerated. Three, China is to blame. Feel free to add to the list. Then some random guy
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responds, China has to be blamed, babes. Isn't that obvious? Then Samira says, babes, puke face emoji.
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No, I don't know what your crap media is telling you, but the world should be thanking China for their
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efforts. Now, I don't know if this woman lives in America or not. I think she does. But that was so
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egregious that I had to mention it. Thanking China. We should be thanking China for their efforts.
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Their efforts in starting and lying about and thereby causing the uncontrollable spread of
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a deadly virus. We should thank them for that. Anyway, so on to the AP. Here's the AP's tweets of their
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article. The caption says, it wasn't supposed to be this way. America was the greatest of all nations
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with can-do spirit in its DNA, but now it leads only in COVID-19 deaths. What's gone wrong?
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And then the title of the article, coronavirus shakes the conceit of American exceptionalism.
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The byline is Calvin Woodward wrote it, but then it says that Lauren Neergaard in Washington,
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Ted Anthony in Pittsburgh, and Aya Batray in Dubai contributed to this report. So a reporter who
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doesn't live in America contributed to a report about how America is not exceptional. So that's
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just great. Reading from the article, it says, when the coronavirus pandemic came from distant
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lands to the United States, it was met with cascading failures and incompetencies by a system
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that exists to prepare, protect, prevent, and cut citizens a check in a national crisis. The molecular
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menace posed by the new coronavirus has shaken the conceit of American exceptionalism like nothing
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big enough to see with your own eyes. A nation with unmatched power, brazen ambition, and aspirations
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through the arc of history to be humanity's shining city upon a hill cannot come up with enough simple
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cotton swabs, despite the wartime manufacturing supply powers assumed by President Donald Trump.
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Then it continues on, for effective diagnostic testing, crucial or an infectious outbreak,
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look abroad to the United Arab Emirates, or Germany, or New Zealand, which jumped to test the masses
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before many were known to be sick. Or to South Korean exceptionalism, tapped by Maryland's Republican
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Governor Larry Hogan, who accepted a plane load of 500,000 testing kits from South Korea to make up for
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the U.S. shortfall. Simple gloves, complicated ventilators, special lab chemicals, test swabs, masks,
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gowns, face shields, hospital beds, emergency payouts from the government, benefits for idled
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workers. Each has been subject to chronic shortages, spot shortages, calcified bureaucracy,
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or some combination. Okay, and then it goes on from there. I can't read the whole thing. It's very,
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quite lengthy. Now, here's the thing, and you get this a lot from the media. Many of the points being
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raised that I just read there and throughout the article are not wrong. It would certainly be hard to
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argue that the response from our country has been stellar, exactly, and we were caught unprepared,
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and we shouldn't have been unprepared, and we have government agencies that are supposed to be
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keeping us prepared for this sort of thing, like the CDC. And they didn't do their job. And many of the
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other things that this article points out are true, yes, but they marshal all of these facts in service to
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an ideological point, and then they cover it in a falsehood. The ideological point is that American
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exceptionalism is just a conceit and a false one. And the falsehood is that we lead only in COVID-19
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deaths, which implies, obviously, first of all, that we don't lead in any other category, which is not
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true. But it's also untrue that we lead in COVID-19 deaths. That, you know, the only way to get to that
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statistic. And the media has to know this. So when you've got the media constantly saying that we lead
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in COVID-19 deaths, they have to know that what they're saying is not true. I mean, at best, highly
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misleading, but really simply untrue. Yet they keep saying it. Why do they keep saying it? Well, I mean,
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it's almost like they want it to be true. Or at least they want us to believe that it's true.
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And this is what I'm talking about with rooting against America.
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So the only way to get to that statistic, the only way to support the idea that we lead in deaths
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is to do two extremely disingenuous things. One is to ignore population size and to just do a
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straight up comparison between our total deaths and total deaths in like New Zealand, you know,
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and Denmark, completely putting aside that our population is many, many, many, many, many times
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larger than those countries. So obviously we're going to have more deaths. Then you also have
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to ignore total cases. And of course, we don't know the total cases for any country. And the fact
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that we don't know that is a problem because it also means that the death toll is probably a lot
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lower than we think. But still, obviously, if you have more cases, you're going to have more deaths.
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And obviously, America is going to have more cases than a place like New Zealand because we
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have a lot more people. And also, we have a lot more people coming here from other parts of the
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from other parts of the world. Now, according to USA Today, and this is in an article meant to
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basically debunk Trump's claim that our death rate is low compared to other countries, which is
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actually true that it is low compared to many other countries. But in the process of trying to debunk
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that claim, the USA Today, USA Today did admit, quote, when compared only to the 10 countries with the
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most cases, the U.S. ranks as the second lowest mortality rate as a percentage of total cases.
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That means eight of those countries hit hardest by the coronavirus have higher mortality rates than
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the U.S. Well, that's the honest comparison to make. You have to look at other countries that got
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a ton of cases because they have larger populations in most cases and also because maybe they have more
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people coming into their countries. And then or you can look at deaths per 100,000 people or per a
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million people. And when you do that, so you're looking at it more per capita basis. And when you
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do that, we're nowhere near the top of the list. In fact, I don't even I don't think we even make it
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into the into the top 10 when you look at it that way. And then in order to claim that America leads
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and deaths, you also have to take China at its word on its death count. And you have to assume
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that a country like India with a billion plus people claiming only 700 deaths, you have to
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assume that that number is accurate. And not to say that India would be lying about their death count.
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Maybe they would be. But also you have to think in a country like India, they may not have
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successfully counted all the people who actually died of this illness.
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Um, so but you have to put that to the side. You have to assume that in India with with with
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one point, I think it's 1.3 billion people, only 700 have died of coronavirus. And China's being
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honest. So you assume all of that. And then and then even then you don't get to to America having
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the most cases. Now, none of this, again, is to say that our response in America has been good.
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It hasn't, in my view. But the media wants us to believe that it's the worst and that we're the
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hardest hit and that we're the most incompetent. And you can practically see the gleeful smiles when
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you read this stuff. This is what happens when you buy into the narrative that America is the
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villain of the world. And then when bad stuff happens to your country, if that's if you've bought
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into a narrative that your country is the villain, bad stuff happens to your country. And then I guess
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you feel pretty good about it, which it seems it seems that that's the case for a lot of people in
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the media. OK, let's move on to headlines. Number one, NFL draft was last night. They had to do it all
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virtual, which meant that Roger Goodell, for the first time ever, wasn't booed every time he spoke,
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the NFL commissioner. Usually at these events, he gets up there for the first round anyway to announce
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the people who've been drafted to the various teams. And every time he goes, takes a stage,
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he's booed. But that didn't happen this time. I watched a little bit of it,
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mainly because I'm desperate for sports, like most red-blooded American men. So I'll even sit and
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watch guys on a webcam list the names of players who've been drafted. That's how desperate I am for
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some kind of live sporting event. But it was kind of awkward because they had webcams
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in all of the homes of the projected first round draft picks. So we could see their excitement in
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real time as they learned that they were drafted, which had to be annoying. You know, I felt bad for
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those kids because this is one of the biggest moments of their lives, the moment their life
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changes, the moment that all the years of hard work pays off. It's a very significant, profound,
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beautiful moment for them. And they've got a camera shoved in their face so that millions of
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people can watch and judge their reaction as they learn the news. Now, I mean, I think even
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like during holidays or a birthday, when I have to open presents in front of other people, and I don't
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have a camera shoved in my face. Well, sometimes I do, but I don't have millions of people watching.
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But even that, I really hate opening presents in front of other people. That's why I don't like
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holidays. And I would just, I'd be in favor of abolishing the gift giving process altogether.
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Because then I feel like I've got all this pressure. I have to be excited about every gift
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that I open. And I'm not an excitable person. So even if I'm very excited about a gift, like I could
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get a gift, I could open a gift and it could be a treasure chest full of gold bars, you know,
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adding up to like $3 million in value. And my reaction to that would be something like,
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oh, cool. Wow, really cool. Thanks so much. Yeah, I really, thank you. Really cool. That'd be my
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reaction. That would also be my reaction if you give me socks. Either way, just how I am. So I felt
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bad for these kids, because I think a lot of them are sort of the same as me, not as excitable.
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And so you're watching their reactions. And many of them do not appear excited at all. And so it's
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very awkward, especially the guy that was drafted by the Jaguars. Here was his reaction.
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Well, there you see happiness all the way around. And just so you know, obviously it makes a lot of
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sense because the Jaguars moved on from Jalen Ramsey last year. They clearly needed help at
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the cornerback position. Now, in fairness, I think he was actually overcome with emotion there. And so
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I think he was excited. But it did kind of look like he was mourning over being drafted by the
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Jaguars. And I wouldn't blame him for that if he was. By the way, his reaction was judged by jerks
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like myself, as I am doing to him right now what I hate when people do to me. So moving on. Dr.
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Scott Gottlieb on Twitter says this, study of 318 outbreaks in China found transmission occurred
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out of doors in only one involving just two cases. Most occurred in home or public transport.
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Raises key chance for states to move service outdoors, religious gym classes, restaurants,
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etc. Now, this is, you know, in spite of this, you still got morons panicking over people going to
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the beach. And as I've been saying all along, even though I'm not a doctor, it seemed obvious to me
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that the beach is probably one of the safest places in the world you can be right now.
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Fresh air, open air, lots of wind, lots of circulation there. It's hot, it's sunny.
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Just doesn't seem like the best environment for a virus to be transmitted. You know, if I were a
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virus and I wanted to be transmitted, I would not choose, and I could choose anywhere, I would not
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choose a beach. I would choose a public transportation. And in lieu of that, if not that,
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at least, yes, being, I think the best case scenario would be, you know, being cooped up in a house with
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other people. Now, that's a great opportunity for a transmission. So, yeah, I think this could be a
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solution for a lot of businesses that are apprehensive about opening when they're allowed to open.
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If you can, move, you know, move the, move it outside, have people sitting outside as much as
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possible. Churches doing outdoor services, you know, as we move into the warmer months in the
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summer and everything, I think that could be a great solution. Might not be possible for every
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church and every restaurant, of course, but where it is possible, I think that could be a good way of
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doing it. Let's see, number three, the mayor of a city in Japan is under fire for saying that men
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should do the grocery shopping because women take too long and they clog up the lanes at the store by
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dawdling around. He said, this is what he said, quote, women take a longer time grocery shopping
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because they browse through different products and weigh out which option is best. Men quickly grab
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what they're told to buy so they won't linger at the supermarket. That avoids close contact with
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others. I think this is obviously true. People are upset, of course, because they're always going to
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get upset when you make any sort of observation about women that appears to be less than flattering.
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You know, if you dare say anything about women that is short of bowing before them and worshiping
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them, anything short of that, and it's highly offensive. But this is obviously true, it seems to
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me. Certainly in my experience of both being a man and a husband and also going to grocery stores
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and also just what I know about men. Men are all about efficiency, okay? Men are going to be more
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efficient in pretty much everything. If you want efficiency, go to a man. Whether it's grocery
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shopping, whether it's telling a story about what happened to them during the day, whether it's
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anything, man's going to be more efficient. Now, that's not to say that the man is always going to
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do a better job. Because yeah, I would say that women, if you got all the time in the world,
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then yeah, you want the woman to do the grocery shopping because she is. She's going to be thinking
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very hard about what she's buying. She's going to be finding the best deals, you know, and all of
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that. But we're in a position right now where we just need to get in and get out. And if you need
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someone to get in, get it done, and get out, that's, you need men. You need men for that.
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Um, so that's now when I'm at the grocery store, I've got my list and I'm just going through the
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aisles as fast as I can, you know, grabbing it. I don't even look at it hardly. I just grab first
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thing I see first version. You know, if there's something on the list that says, uh, you know,
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uh, mayonnaise or whatever, I'm just grabbing the first jar that I see. I'm not sitting there. Now,
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if it was my wife, she's going to sit there and she's gonna look at all the different versions of
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mayonnaise. You think, you know, what's the healthiest? What's the cheapest? Can I get a
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deal here? What brand do we like the most? Uh, you know, this jar is a little bit bigger than that
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jar. Is that a better deal than that one? Oh, do I want, do I want mayonnaise that has a olive oil,
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uh, uh, flavoring or do you know, do I, we don't have time for that right now, maybe in the future,
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but right now you just got to grab the mayonnaise. And so I think that obviously you need men,
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need men for that. Um, number four, I'm going to be putting a report into de Blasio's
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social distancing snitch line where you report violations of social distancing rules,
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because I saw a new, a New Yorker, a New York resident flagrantly violating social distancing
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policies. And I think this needs to be reported to a de Blasio ASAP.
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On behalf of my constituents in the Bronx and Queens, New York's 14th congressional district,
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the most impacted district in America, calling people, losing their families every day. It is a
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joke when Republicans say that they have urgency around this bill. The only folks that they have
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urgency around are, are folks like Ruth's Chris Steakhouse and Shake Shack. Those are the people
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getting assistance in this bill. You are not trying to fix this bill for mom and pops. And we have to
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fight to fund hospitals, fighting to fund testing. That is what we're fighting for in this bill. It is
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unconscionable. If you had urgency, you would legislate like rent was due on May 1st and make
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sure that we include rent and mortgage relief for our constituents. So there is AOC inside around
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other people holding her mask in her hand while she shouts. I think taking the mask off to shout,
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taking the mask off in order to shout seems like it really defeats the purpose of the mask. In fact,
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you probably mainly need the mask for the shouting part. Like you'd be better off not wearing it for
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any other part and just putting it on for the shouting because that's when the spittle is going
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to be going all over the place. That's like, that's like if you have a mask and you're walking around
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to the store or something. And as soon as you have to cough, you just pull the mask down to cough and
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then you put the mask back up. It defeats the purpose. It reminds me of the fact I was at Walmart the
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other day and there was a woman. I'm not, I'm not joking. She was walking through the store
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and she had pulled her mask down to sing. She was singing with her mask pulled down in Walmart.
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And I almost did report her as much as I'm against snitching. And I believe snitches get stitches.
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And for good reason, I almost reported her, but not really because of the mask thing is it's more
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that she was happy at Walmart and you're, you're just, you're not supposed to be that happy at Walmart.
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Walmart. It's not a place for happiness. Um, but anyway, this was a common theme actually in
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Congress. Uh, none of these people who lead our country apparently understand how to wear a mask
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or why we wear them. So let's take a look at a couple more examples of these pictures here.
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Uh, these are people that have masks at various different places on their face, but not really
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covering the mouth and the nose, which is what it's supposed to do. And then the worst of all is this.
00:23:04.980
This is a very important piece of legislation. So we come to the floor,
00:23:10.400
very important piece of legislation. So we come to the floor with such heartache,
00:23:17.360
with just sorrow about those who have lost their lives and their loved ones,
00:23:22.060
those who are suffering from the virus, uh, assault now.
00:23:26.360
So that's Nancy Pelosi mask off, wipes her nose and then touches the podium that a bunch of other
00:23:34.780
Congress people are going to be using. That's a, that's a, that is a terrorist attack really is what
00:23:42.740
that is. That's a, that's a national security emergency, which has happened there. She could
00:23:48.320
have unleashed a deadly pathogen into, into the, the halls of, of, of, of the U S Congress.
00:23:56.080
I think she needs to be arrested immediately for this and many other reasons. Finally,
00:24:01.660
a report from the CBS affiliate in New York says, um, MTA subway conductors say trains are
00:24:11.340
filthier than ever amid coronavirus pandemic. It says the subways are only supposed to be for
00:24:16.660
essential workers during the coronavirus pandemic, but conductors say the trains are filthier than
00:24:20.580
ever. The MTA says that, uh, only about 5% of its regular ridership is taking the subway.
00:24:25.540
And that's made up of people who work in hospitals, grocery stores, and every other essential
00:24:29.180
service. But conductors say the subway has become a homeless shelter and social distancing is near
00:24:32.840
impossible. Cell phone video shows subway cars lined with people passed out using shoes as pillows,
00:24:38.660
not wearing masks, trash piled in shopping carts, um, urine, feces, so on and so forth
00:24:46.320
everywhere. And this is what's happening in the, in the subway system in New York. Uh,
00:24:50.400
we, we see how, and this has been the case all along that it's pretty clear that public
00:24:54.800
transportation in New York subway system was a vector of disease. It was basically a disease
00:24:59.840
transmission system. You want to talk about efficient, getting the virus from one corner
00:25:04.700
of the city to the other. If you're wondering why one of the reasons why New York has had it so
00:25:09.480
much worse than every other place in America, it's this, when you've got this disease transmission
00:25:14.560
system, shooting the disease all over the place. And then you've got, you know, like 20,000 people
00:25:19.620
per square mile living, uh, in this densely packed place. It's not hard to see why that,
00:25:26.720
why they've, um, had such a hard time of it. Okay. Now let's move to our daily cancellation.
00:25:33.640
Um, for our daily cancellation, I'm going to be canceling everybody. You know what? I'm,
00:25:38.240
I'm, everybody's canceled everybody. And I'll tell you why there have been headlines in the
00:25:44.340
media like this from NBC. Uh, and it says Trump suggests injection of disinfectant to beat
00:25:50.520
coronavirus and clean the lungs. So Trump suggests injection. And then tweets like this from a Biden
00:25:57.740
staffer. It says this election is a choice between two competing visions for America. One that says
00:26:01.700
you should drink bleach to cure viruses. And another that says do not drink bleach. And then we've got
00:26:07.100
indignant fact checks from conservative sites like Breitbart, uh, fact check. No, Trump didn't propose
00:26:13.100
injecting people with disinfectant. So this is what's going back and forth. Okay. Here's what
00:26:19.480
Trump actually said. Let's go to the tape. Supposing we hit the body with a tremendous,
00:26:25.940
uh, whether it's ultraviolet or just very powerful light. And I think you said that hasn't been checked,
00:26:33.760
but you're going to test it. And then I said, supposing you brought the light inside the body,
00:26:37.720
you can, which you can do either through the skin or, uh, in some other way. And I think you said
00:26:43.900
you're going to test that too. Sounds interesting. Right. And then I see the disinfectant where it
00:26:49.780
knocks it out in a minute, one minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, uh, by
00:26:56.640
injection inside or, or almost a cleaning? Cause you see it gets on the lungs and it does a tremendous
00:27:04.640
number. So it'd be interesting to check that so that you're going to have to use medical doctors
00:27:09.220
with, but it sounds, it sounds interesting to me. Okay. So Trump didn't propose or urge
00:27:17.180
injecting disinfectant. He certainly didn't say we should drink bleach. Okay. That, that was never
00:27:23.020
brought up, but he did clearly. And we all heard it. You heard the tape. That's that, that there it is
00:27:29.560
in context. Uh, he did ask whether we could inject disinfectant into the body to clean the body.
00:27:37.640
He did ask that he did bring that up. Uh, he didn't urge it, didn't propose it, didn't tell
00:27:44.740
people to run out and do it. He certainly didn't say, go, go, uh, you know, grab some Lysol or Clorox
00:27:49.940
or something and inject it into your veins. He didn't say that, but he did ask about it. And so we see
00:27:56.240
here a familiar dynamic. And this is a, this is a dynamic that I, I'm really tired of. Uh, I, I,
00:28:02.020
I loathe it in fact. And that is where Trump says something dumb and let's face it. This was very,
00:28:08.460
very dumb. And then the media twists it into something even more dumb. And then conservative
00:28:14.340
media comes along and righteously, you know, uh, calls the media to task, calls them God forsaken
00:28:20.520
liars and explains that Trump didn't say that dumb thing. He said a slightly less dumb thing.
00:28:26.540
You liars. He didn't say that dumb thing. I mean, he did say something pretty dumb,
00:28:29.680
but it wasn't that dumb. And I'm just so tired of the whole thing. I, yeah, the media is lying
00:28:36.240
about it, but I can't muster the energy to be that angry at them when he did in fact say something
00:28:42.260
very stupid. And so I, I kind of think he's the president of the United States. He's an adult.
00:28:47.240
Maybe don't say the stupid stuff. Just a thought. I don't know. You're, you're, you're doing a press
00:28:53.020
conference. It's the middle of a crisis. Maybe, maybe for once think a little bit before you speak
00:28:57.960
maybe. And if you're not going to, I don't really feel like going to the mat for you 50 times a
00:29:03.620
freaking week, uh, to, to explain that the dumb crap you said is not quite as dumb as I just don't
00:29:09.560
feel like doing that. So many people in conservative media have spent years doing this. This has become
00:29:14.500
their entire job is doing. This is just explaining every dumb thing that he says. And I, that to me is
00:29:21.320
annoying. It's also annoying, of course, that the media would lie about. I mean, the idea that he,
00:29:24.520
that he would propose drinking bleach is totally crazy. And there is a significant difference
00:29:30.900
between asking, can we do this, uh, or speaking about it hypothetically and urging it. And the,
00:29:38.180
the really stupid thing for the media is if they could just stick to the truth, the truth is pretty
00:29:44.120
bad in and of itself. And if they stuck to the truth, then the story would remain, um, the dumb
00:29:50.700
thing Trump said, which is what they would prefer instead of the story becoming them lying about
00:29:55.400
it. Because of course, what conservatives want to do is they want to, they never want the story to be
00:29:59.440
the dumb thing that Trump said. They want the story to be media lying about it. And I mean, that's no
00:30:04.520
secret. Many conservatives and media, they would like to deflect every time Trump says something
00:30:07.860
dumb. They're looking for a reason to deflect it. And the media always comes along and gives them a
00:30:13.240
reason to. So it's just stupidity all across the board. And that's why I say everybody is
00:30:18.480
canceled. Trump is canceled. The media is canceled. Conservative media is canceled. I'm canceled.
00:30:23.400
You're canceled. Your pet goldfish is canceled. Everyone and everything is canceled. Period. Okay.
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Let's go to some emails before we do. Um, you know what is not canceled? The Daily Wire and our
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beverage vessels times two. Uh, let's see. Uh, this is from
00:31:40.320
Madison says, good afternoon. I just finished listening to your program and felt compelled
00:31:47.400
to comment after hearing the stories about weird homeschooled kids in college. I wanted to refute
00:31:52.260
the idea that these people are somehow less or strange because of it. I'm perfect. I'm currently
00:31:57.000
in college and help mentoring, uh, help mentor income incoming freshmen. I can't speak. I can't,
00:32:01.620
I can't read or speak and I went to public school. So what does that tell you? Don't blame this on
00:32:07.260
homeschooling. Uh, I mentor incoming freshmen as they transitioned from high school. Back in August,
00:32:13.000
I met a woman named Penelope who'd been homeschooled from middle school. And she was one of the nicest
00:32:17.740
people I'd ever met except for not knowing what a Scantron was. What a freak, what a freak doesn't
00:32:23.180
know what a Scantron is weirdo. She was no different from all the other students and proved to be kinder
00:32:28.360
and more intelligent than a lot of incoming freshmen. She has been accepted into the
00:32:31.460
mentoring program and we'll be helping other students next year. It seems to me that all
00:32:35.040
these stories are coming out now because people are jealous. Homeschooled students are ahead of
00:32:38.820
the curve and are doing better with the transition to online than most other students that I've
00:32:42.700
helped. I appreciate what you do on your show and thank you for being one of the few people in the
00:32:46.180
media who are keeping their heads on. Yeah. And I wanted to read that because we were getting all
00:32:50.260
these anecdotes from people that I did read, uh, you know, in fairness, trying to get both sides
00:32:53.940
of it, but anecdotes from people talking about the weird homeschoolers and so on. I've, I've responded to
00:32:57.400
that. I'm not gonna respond to it again, but all these people saying that, you know, these homeschoolers
00:33:02.280
and they're so weird. I don't know what, I'm not saying they don't exist, but, but what I've met a
00:33:08.420
lot of homeschoolers and, uh, for the most part, these are really impressive people. So what, what
00:33:13.200
homeschoolers are you meeting exactly if you've never met any of the really impressive ones? So I agree
00:33:18.520
with Madison. That's been my experience as well. This is from Kyle says, hi Matt. I enjoy hearing you talk
00:33:23.200
about the arguments for God, especially the arguments for God that you don't like. Most apologists aren't
00:33:27.240
willing to do this. So your honesty and critical thinking is refreshing. I've never heard you talk
00:33:31.080
about the transcendental argument for God and would love to hear your take on it. I know you're not a
00:33:35.200
fan of the presuppositional approach, so I think I know how you'll feel about this. I'm not, that's true.
00:33:40.400
If you aren't familiar, tag, transcendental argument for God, uh, goes like this. Sorry, I lifted this
00:33:46.960
from Wikipedia just because it's a short explanation. Uh, one, God is a necessary precondition for logic
00:33:53.080
and morality because these are immaterial yet real universals. Two, people depend upon logic and
00:33:58.720
morality showing that they depend upon the universal immaterial and abstract realities which could not
00:34:03.040
exist in a materialist universe, but presuppose, presumes the existence of an immaterial and absolute
00:34:08.060
God. Three, therefore God exists. If he didn't, we could not rely upon logic, reason, morality, and other
00:34:12.940
absolute universals and could not exist in a materialist universe where these are no, where there are no
00:34:18.760
absolute standards or an absolute law giver. Or to, and going back, this is now in the, we go back to Kyle's
00:34:26.260
phrasing, uh, or to put it in the terms that Matt Slick, he's an apologist, puts it, one, we, we have only two
00:34:32.920
possible options by which we can explain something, and one of those options is, um, is removed. By default, the other
00:34:39.620
option is verified since it is impossible to negate both of the only two existing conditions. I think there was a word
00:34:46.020
missing there. If we have only two possible options by which we can explain something, and one of those
00:34:50.120
options is removed, then by default the other option is, is the one that we have to go with. Two, God
00:34:55.060
either exists or does not exist. There is no third option. Three, if the no-God position, atheism, clearly
00:35:02.500
fails to account for logical absolutes from its perspective, then it is negated, and the other option
00:35:08.040
is verified. Four, atheism cannot account for the necessary preconditions for intelligibility, namely the
00:35:13.600
existence of logical absolutes. Therefore, it is invalidated as a viable option for accounting for
00:35:17.580
them, and the only other option, God exists, is validated. Back to Kyle, I'd love to hear your
00:35:24.300
thoughts on this. Thanks. Okay, um, that's interesting. I, I haven't given this line of argumentation much
00:35:32.280
thought. I am vaguely familiar with it. So, uh, just off the top of my head here, I will say that I
00:35:42.220
appreciate what the argument is trying to do. It's trying to prove God. Prove God, right, by using
00:35:50.000
logic. And most apologetic arguments are not actually trying to prove God, because they can't.
00:35:57.840
Um, because, you know, they are, most apologetic arguments that you hear are evidential arguments.
00:36:05.020
And an evidential argument, the problem with an evidential argument, and I, and I like many of the
00:36:10.300
evidential arguments, but they can only go so far. They, they are limited, because there's always
00:36:14.220
going to be different ways of interpreting the evidence. And if you're following the rules of
00:36:18.100
philosophy, you can't make an evidential argument, even a strong one, like fine tuning, which I think
00:36:24.220
is a very strong evidential argument for God. Uh, but you can't make that and then say that based on
00:36:29.600
that, you know, for a fact that God exists, you can only say, and this is how, you know, someone like
00:36:34.320
William Lane Craig is going to phrase it. He's going to say that God is more plausible than not
00:36:38.280
God. Um, and of course, if you're an apologist or if you're a Christian in general, you would like
00:36:53.560
to have arguments that don't leave that open. And so you want an argument, right? That is,
00:36:57.860
that's going to a hundred percent prove logically that God exists. So that's what this argument is
00:37:04.460
trying to do. That's what the ontological argument is trying to do. I appreciate the attempt. Uh, I,
00:37:09.800
I, I, but I don't think this argument is successful. Um, it doesn't strike me as successful.
00:37:18.180
The first problem is the premise that God is a necessary precondition for logic and morality.
00:37:24.180
That, you know, the issue is now, obviously I agree with it, but that's a highly contentious
00:37:29.200
premise. I mean, it's almost like trying to make an argument and your first premise is something
00:37:35.080
like, I don't know. Um, this maybe isn't a great analogy, but it's like if your first premise was
00:37:40.220
the Bible is the most important book ever written. If that was like the first premise of an argument
00:37:44.960
you were making for God. Now I agree that the Bible is the most important book ever written.
00:37:49.480
I think it's a fairly easy thing to prove or at least to argue in favor of,
00:37:53.680
but it is controversial. It's not self-evident. You, you, you do have to argue for it. So you
00:37:59.460
can't really start there. You got to start further back to get there. And I think something like God
00:38:05.460
isn't necessarily a precondition for logic and morality. Um, that's a highly contentious
00:38:08.860
premise. It isn't, it's an argument in fact, in and of itself that you have to provide evidence for.
00:38:16.200
You can't just assert it because first of all, you know, you could rebut this by saying, well,
00:38:21.040
morality doesn't exist. Um, uh, at least in an objective sense, there is no objective morality.
00:38:26.720
So even if God is a necessary precondition for it, so what? Because objective morality doesn't exist.
00:38:33.280
And I think for an atheist, when it comes to the moral argument, which I think is another strong
00:38:36.560
argument for God, but with the moral argument, now there are some atheists like, like Sam Harris,
00:38:41.580
who will try to argue that no objective morality does exist without God. And he can make an
00:38:47.760
interesting argument. I don't find it persuasive. I think the, the, the better, the stronger argument
00:38:53.220
for an atheist perspective is just to say, no, there is no objective morality. Okay. Uh, I mean,
00:38:58.120
I think we kind of pretend in order to make society function, we have to do things like not kill each
00:39:02.800
other and we have to punish people who do just so society can function. But there's no reason to say
00:39:07.160
that it's objectively wrong to kill somebody. Um, that's the route some atheists will go. It's a
00:39:12.260
little bit, I could see why they wouldn't want to defend that because of the implications of it.
00:39:16.720
But, um, in terms of an argument, that's going to be stronger. So anyway, they could always say
00:39:21.380
that. Uh, and I think that's going to undermine your premise. Um, and then, uh, the idea that
00:39:28.340
logical absolutes can't exist without God strikes me as somewhat unintelligible. I mean, a logical
00:39:34.440
absolute, what's a logical absolute? A logical absolute is something like a is a, um, or a,
00:39:42.260
A is not B. Therefore, B is not A. Those are logical statements. They are logical absolutes.
00:39:50.380
Why couldn't that be true without God? I mean, you might argue that we couldn't come to know
00:39:55.720
the logical absolutes without God. And that gets into the question of consciousness. Where did
00:40:01.620
consciousness come from? But then again, you're going back to the consciousness argument, which
00:40:05.300
I've already said, I think is maybe one of the strongest arguments for God, maybe the strongest,
00:40:08.940
but that's really the argument. It's about the argument of consciousness.
00:40:13.260
Um, so you got to go all the way back there, but can logical absolutes exist? You know, if
00:40:19.660
there was no God and the universe just existed, would A still be A? Sure. I don't see why it
00:40:29.120
wouldn't be. Um, and then there's the issue that I guess a Christian apologist, you know,
00:40:34.400
if you're a Christian apologist and you're making this argument, um, you would want it to prove
00:40:40.540
the Christian God, I would imagine. And, but it doesn't really prove the Christian God.
00:40:45.940
It just, at best, if the argument is successful, it proves some kind of God. The problem is, you
00:40:51.840
know, um, I could use Matt Slick's formulation and I could use it to prove any God, right? Couldn't
00:40:59.540
I? Um, so I could say Brahma is the Hindu God. So couldn't I say, if the no Brahma position,
00:41:08.000
atheism clearly fails to account for logical absolutes from its perspective, then it is
00:41:12.740
negated. And the other option is verified. Atheism cannot account for the necessary
00:41:16.640
preconditions for intelligibility, namely the existence of logical absolutes. Therefore,
00:41:20.680
it is invalidated. And the only other option, Brahma exists, is validated. I don't see why
00:41:27.420
I couldn't do that by this logic. I could prove Brahma, I could prove Vishnu, I could prove
00:41:33.820
Zeus, Poseidon, you know, anybody. And maybe that's okay because the argument is only trying
00:41:40.280
to establish some kind of God. It's only trying to get you to that point. And if it could get
00:41:45.380
you to that point, that's pretty significant in and of itself, I would think. But you still
00:41:49.000
have a lot of work still in front of you to do. Um, and, uh, so, uh, but, but anyway, I don't,
00:41:59.180
I don't think that the argument gets you to that point. I don't think it, I don't think it really
00:42:02.000
achieves a liftoff because of the problems with the, um, premises. I have to think more about it
00:42:08.720
though. It's an interesting, as I said, I, I, I think this is good for apologists to be doing,
00:42:13.120
to be thinking in terms of logical arguments as well as evidential arguments. Um, but I don't
00:42:20.760
know if this one really works. Thanks for that though. Thank you for that question. Always
00:42:24.900
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