The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 483 - If You're Still Scared, Stay Home. The Rest Of Us Will Get Back To Our Lives

00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Walsh Show, the media claims that many Americans still don't want to leave

00:00:04.300 their homes and get back to their lives. They want to stay barricaded in their homes.

00:00:08.400 They're not ready to be done with the lockdown yet. If that's true, fine. And that's why I

00:00:13.280 propose that everybody who wants to get back to work and back to their lives can do so.

00:00:18.400 And if you want to stay home, you can. I think that's the path forward. It's an easy solution.

00:00:23.360 What's the problem? We'll talk about that. Also, five headlines, including

00:00:25.760 the arrest of the two men who shot Ahmaud Arbery. And we'll talk more about that case today,

00:00:31.680 especially in the email. It's got a lot of email about it. And in our daily cancellation,

00:00:35.300 I cancel a news channel that shamed a guy for the crime of operating his ice cream truck.

00:00:42.140 And you have to see this video just to see how proud of itself these quote unquote journalists

00:00:47.960 are for shaming this guy. So we'll talk about all that coming up. But first, as mentioned,

00:00:54.880 a new poll done by ABC says that 65% of Americans don't want the economy to reopen.

00:01:02.080 Now, I have trouble believing these polls because they don't at all reflect what I hear when I talk

00:01:07.260 to people. And I often think, even though it's unscientific, I do think sometimes your own

00:01:12.460 anecdotal experience of just the vibe you get from people when you talk to them, I have found that to

00:01:18.960 be more reliable than these media polls much of the time in many circumstances. But let's say for a

00:01:26.240 minute, okay, these things are accurate. These are accurate polls. Well, fine. We still know,

00:01:32.760 despite what supposedly 65% of Americans want, we know that there's no good reason for the lockdown

00:01:40.020 to continue. There wasn't a good reason for the lockdown to begin in the first place.

00:01:43.260 But almost everything we have learned in the last two months has made that truth inescapably

00:01:49.840 clear. Okay, so to be in favor of the lockdown two months ago is one thing. To be in favor of it now

00:01:56.580 is quite another. Because we have a lot of data under our belt now, a lot of experience.

00:02:02.540 And it all points to the fact that there is no justification for this. Over 33 million people

00:02:09.320 have been put out of work. Many businesses on the brink of or over the edge of bankruptcy,

00:02:14.580 our economy teeters near total collapse, and all of this, not to prevent deaths or to stop the virus,

00:02:21.320 but merely to delay the inevitable moment when we have to figure out how to live in spite of it.

00:02:26.840 This is all a delaying tactic. There are still people, I think a lot of people in this poll

00:02:30.360 don't understand. I think part of the reason why they're in favor of the lockdown is they still don't,

00:02:35.460 and probably because they're getting their news from places like CNN, they don't understand

00:02:39.900 what the lockdown is actually supposed to accomplish. It's not supposed to save any

00:02:44.600 lives, really. It's just supposed to delay. It's a delaying tactic. For most of us,

00:02:50.140 the risk of returning to our jobs and our lives is very low. The virus primarily victimizes the old

00:02:56.980 and the infirm, which is why it has had a hugely disproportionate impact on nursing homes. As I

00:03:02.540 argued a few days ago, I laid out the numbers. We talked about this. In many states and many

00:03:07.440 countries, nursing home fatalities account for more than half. I mean, sometimes we're talking

00:03:13.420 70, 80, 90% of all COVID-19 fatalities. When you add the elderly who are not in nursing homes,

00:03:20.420 okay, so that's just specifically people in nursing homes. Then what about the 75 and over crowd who are

00:03:25.740 not in nursing homes? And then you also add in people with preexisting conditions. It becomes evident

00:03:29.560 that young and healthy people are very unlikely to die from this disease or to be hospitalized

00:03:35.280 because of it. In fact, young and healthy people, I mean, the threat of death from COVID-19 for a

00:03:43.780 young and healthy person isn't that much more than the threat from the flu. That's just, that's what

00:03:49.260 the numbers tell us. I know we're not supposed to make these comparisons. I don't care. That's what

00:03:53.940 the numbers tell us. Now, that doesn't mean that we should cavalierly throw aside all precautions and

00:04:02.440 safety measures and just throw it all to the wind. No, that's not what it means. And that's another

00:04:07.680 problem with these polls is that I think the way it is presented is do we have a lockdown or do we do

00:04:14.900 nothing whatsoever and just pretend like everything is normal? Those are the two options that are

00:04:21.420 presented. But that's not actually the people who want to end the lockdown, most of them, that is

00:04:26.080 not what they, what we are proposing. You could still have plenty of safety measures, plenty of

00:04:31.460 social distancing measures. You can take plenty of reasonable precautions while sort of going about

00:04:38.040 your life. And if you do that, the threat level as a healthy person to you will be quite low.

00:04:46.260 And we should be, and this is the point, we should be allowed to take that risk if we wish.

00:04:54.120 For people who, for a culture that supposedly values autonomy and being pro-choice so much,

00:05:00.760 I think this position should be appreciated. We should be able to choose to take that risk if we wish.

00:05:08.980 But this brings up an important point. The argument, the retort is that, well,

00:05:15.940 even if the young and healthy go back to their jobs, if we allow that to happen and we allow them

00:05:23.220 to reclaim their lives, well, the problem is that they might spread it to people who are not in that

00:05:29.920 category. So remember Governor Cuomo said a few weeks ago that for all the people who

00:05:38.880 want to, for the people who have the audacity to want to get back to their jobs and feed their

00:05:43.640 family, he said, it's not about you. It's not about you. It's not about you. It's about me.

00:05:50.560 I mean, that's basically exactly what he said. And that's, that's, that's the argument. That's,

00:05:55.920 that's the retort is, well, what about all the people? So you want to take the risk,

00:05:59.400 but because you could become a carrier, are you not now forcing other people to take a risk?

00:06:03.800 And also what about even healthy people who don't want to take the risk? What about them?

00:06:13.100 Is, is it fair that all these people should have the risk foisted on them against their will?

00:06:19.680 And that's where I say, no, it is not fair, but that's not what we're talking about here.

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00:07:43.940 Okay. So is it fair? Some of us want to go back to our lives, but are we not putting other

00:07:51.140 people in harm's way? Is that fair? Well, it wouldn't be fair. It wouldn't be fair to put

00:07:54.840 people in harm's way against their will, which is why I would be against forcing anyone to leave

00:08:01.660 their homes. And the really good thing is that nobody, to my knowledge, has advocated such a policy.

00:08:08.200 So I am not the only anti-lockdown person who would be against forcing people to leave lockdown.

00:08:15.700 I think everyone, I'm not aware of any anti-lockdown person who wants to force this on anyone.

00:08:23.060 That's not what this is about. In fact, this is the anti-force. It's the other side that's all

00:08:28.740 about forcing people to do this and that. We're saying, no, this is not about force.

00:08:32.140 Now, the way it is portrayed by the pro-lockdown crowd, you would think that those who oppose the

00:08:39.320 lockdown want to mandate that everybody leave their home. But we are in favor of no such mandate

00:08:46.540 and have not proposed one. This to me seems rather simple. If you want to remain in your home,

00:08:53.320 that's fine. Stay there as long as you like.

00:08:57.700 You need not worry about anyone spreading it to you if you're still hiding behind locked doors.

00:09:04.680 I don't even understand the concern. If you want to stay in lockdown and you're saying,

00:09:10.380 you can't leave your home because you're going to spread it to me. How am I going to spread it to

00:09:14.620 you? You're in your home. I'm not breaking in. So you're fine. What's the issue?

00:09:18.820 You should be just as safe after the lockdown ends as you were before it ended because you're

00:09:27.000 still personally staying in your home. No problem. But if you don't want to stay in your home,

00:09:33.560 then you can leave. Only those who choose to take the risk should take it.

00:09:39.960 And there's no reason why I should be prevented from taking the risk just because you don't want

00:09:45.240 to take a risk. You and I are different people. We live in different homes. We don't have to make

00:09:51.520 the same decision. That's the great thing about being autonomous beings. Whatever happened to that?

00:10:01.500 Let me make my choices and you make yours. Now, a common counter-argument to this plan,

00:10:08.480 so a counter-argument to my counter-argument, to their counter-arguments, we're a lot of counters now,

00:10:14.540 but they'll say, well, if many people get back to work and business is open again,

00:10:18.980 then some of the people who want to stay locked down might be compelled by their employers to

00:10:22.960 come back to their jobs. So maybe there are people who are working from home right now,

00:10:26.860 but if we start opening up again, maybe the employer says, you got to come to work or we're

00:10:31.140 going to fire you. Or maybe their job has allowed them to, maybe they're furloughed or whatever the

00:10:41.440 case is. The concern is if we open up the economy and I don't want to leave my home,

00:10:47.800 whereas before my employer was accommodating it, they might not accommodate it anymore.

00:10:52.820 And then I'm out of a job.

00:10:54.280 Now, this strikes me as an ironic and hypocritical concern, considering the source.

00:11:07.400 After all, if you're pro-lockdown, if you're in favor of continuing the lockdown,

00:11:11.880 then you believe that 33 million lost jobs is a price worth paying.

00:11:17.740 You're afraid you're going to lose your job if the lockdowns end. Well, the lockdowns themselves

00:11:25.900 resulted in 33 million people losing their jobs. You were okay with that.

00:11:33.640 In fact, you've probably scolded the people worried about losing their jobs for, quote,

00:11:38.140 putting money over human life. So now what? You're doing the same? Now that you stand to lose

00:11:44.880 your own job, suddenly job loss is a problem. 33 million unemployed people isn't enough to justify

00:11:50.880 opening the economy, but one lost job, yours, is enough to justify keeping it closed?

00:11:58.920 I mean, do you see why this line of reasoning is not particularly endearing or persuasive?

00:12:05.380 People who have pre-existing conditions that put them at high risk of COVID-19 should be

00:12:09.580 accommodated, I think, and provided for so that they can remain home. I don't think that we should

00:12:15.860 be, you know, I think if someone is in a high risk category, either because of their health or their

00:12:24.080 age, they should remain home and they should be accommodated, which is a lot easier to do than 0.99

00:12:30.820 accommodating everybody. I mean, the government sending stimulus checks to everybody, or at least

00:12:37.600 everybody under a certain income bracket, that's not sustainable. Sending stimulus checks to a much

00:12:44.220 smaller group of people, a targeted smaller group of people who have to stay home because of their

00:12:49.220 health condition, that I think is much more sustainable, and that's something we could do.

00:12:54.460 The elderly, you know, most of them aren't working anyway, so they should remain quarantined. 1.00

00:13:00.640 But the young and healthy ought to be given the option to return to work. If any young and healthy

00:13:04.800 person wants to stay home indefinitely because they're afraid, they're free to make that choice.

00:13:09.320 I don't think we should subsidize that choice. That's, that's, yes, that's correct. If you're

00:13:14.280 young and healthy, you're not sick, you're not elderly, I don't think you should be forced out of

00:13:20.260 your home, but I do think the lockdown should end, and I don't think we should subsidize you. I don't

00:13:24.760 think you should get any checks from the government. You know, if you want, if you want to stay home

00:13:29.840 indefinitely because you're afraid of germs and viruses, you're free to do that, but you got to

00:13:34.920 figure out how to make that work for yourself. I don't think that it's society's job to make that

00:13:38.720 work for you. We're going to get the economy going. We're going to, we're going to get society rolling

00:13:43.340 again. If you don't want to be a part of that, fine, but we're not going to pay you. You know,

00:13:48.800 we're not going to pay you to do nothing. But again, these are the people who like to preach

00:13:57.940 about the superfluousness of financial concerns during a time like this. These are the very people

00:14:03.700 who've been saying, how dare you be concerned about finances? All right, well, now I'm saying to you,

00:14:07.520 how dare you be concerned about it? You didn't care about the finances of 33 million people who lost

00:14:11.860 their jobs. Am I supposed to care about yours? I mean, you'll forgive me if I treat your financial

00:14:17.740 situation as superfluous, considering you've done that to everybody else in the country.

00:14:23.500 And now it's a problem. Now, if your financial concerns are not superfluous, then you might

00:14:31.660 decide that it's worth it to get back out into the world and take the risk. And that's a decision

00:14:38.180 you should have the power to make. We should all have the power to make. Let everybody figure out

00:14:42.720 their own priorities, their own needs, their own acceptable level of risk. Let them choose

00:14:49.780 which door they're going to walk through and then walk through the door.

00:14:54.840 That's what it means to live in a free country.

00:14:59.640 Let's move on to headlines. Number one, we talked yesterday at length about the case of Ahmaud Arbery,

00:15:05.740 who was shot dead in the street by Gregory and Travis McMichael. The McMichaels father and son duo

00:15:11.580 claimed they were just making a citizen's arrest. But for reasons that I went into detail explaining

00:15:16.980 yesterday, that excuse just really doesn't wash at all. Now the McMichaels have been arrested. A day

00:15:23.360 after the video went public, arrests were made. But the shooting happened back in February.

00:15:29.920 And prosecutors have had this video in their possession for a while now. So why did it take

00:15:36.860 public outcry to spur arrests? That alone is an enormous outrage. It would seem that local law

00:15:46.060 enforcement intended to cover this up and let the killers go without facing any kind of trial.

00:15:52.920 And if that video doesn't come out, these guys are still on the street. That seems obvious.

00:15:58.260 Remember, the first two prosecutors in this case recused themselves because of their connection to

00:16:04.260 the elder McMichael. It's obvious that the people, the powers that be down there making these decisions

00:16:12.000 in Georgia really didn't want to prosecute these guys, really didn't want to. Well, and why is that?

00:16:18.660 Many people say it's because of racism. I think another potential explanation is that the elder

00:16:25.060 McMichael is a former cop. And to me, this all reeks of cops trying to cover for one, for their own,

00:16:32.260 you know, cops looking out for their own kind of thing. That's, that's, that's what it seems to me to be.

00:16:39.280 And it certainly wouldn't be the first time that happens.

00:16:43.660 Number two, the unemployment rate is 14.7%. Or in fact, numbers just came out today.

00:16:49.820 The unemployment rate was 14.7% in April, which is officially the highest unemployment rate since the

00:16:56.020 Great Depression. And I think the highest unemployment rate since they started officially

00:17:00.440 tracking these numbers in the 40s. When you factor in the people who are underemployed and that they

00:17:09.540 went from full-time to part-time, that number is 23%. Remember, that's just April. And remember,

00:17:15.020 this does not count the millions of people who haven't filed or couldn't file or, or don't qualify

00:17:20.320 for unemployment. So the worst unemployment rate since the Great Depression is actually an

00:17:24.640 understatement. That's actually a very conservative way of putting it. And we did all this. We locked

00:17:30.900 33 million workers in their homes because of a virus that mostly kills people in nursing homes.

00:17:36.440 And then we kept sending infected people into the nursing homes. Amazing.

00:17:42.380 I really believe historians of the future will spend their whole careers trying to figure out

00:17:48.960 what happened here and why we did what we did. And they won't be able to understand it. And I don't

00:17:54.500 understand it either. Three, speaking of nursing homes, reading now from the Daily Wire, it says,

00:18:00.480 unbelievably, despite the fact that elderly people in senior care centers have been the hardest hit

00:18:04.900 demographic in the coronavirus crisis, the state of California, where Governor Gavin Newsom has

00:18:09.160 instituted harsh lockdown measures, is asking assisted living facilities to house elderly patients

00:18:14.840 infected with the coronavirus in exchange for money. So we know in New York, there was a mandate

00:18:23.500 passed back in March, forcing nursing homes to take infected people.

00:18:31.140 And there was one we talked about a few days ago, there was one nurse come in particular

00:18:34.980 that had had no coronavirus cases or deaths. They were forced to take in two coronavirus cases.

00:18:42.700 And then shortly after they had 30 people die. And that is a direct result of the mandate of the

00:18:51.160 policy in New York, which means it's a direct result of the actions of Governor Cuomo. I mean,

00:18:57.400 he has that blood on his hands. I don't see any way around that. And now you've got similar things going on

00:19:02.800 in other parts of the country. In California, they're going to bribe you to take in coronavirus

00:19:07.740 patients. It's incredible. I mean, to have this level of incompetence, and it's still happening,

00:19:18.600 even now. And I also don't want to hear, when I talked about this a few days ago, some people,

00:19:25.880 the excuse some people offered is, what else are you going to do? If you have an elderly person who has

00:19:31.260 coronavirus, where else are you going to put them? They need around-the-clock care. Where else are

00:19:37.380 you going to put them? Here's my answer to that. Literally anywhere else, okay? Anywhere else would

00:19:44.880 be a better place than a nursing home. And besides, what about all these extra facilities

00:19:52.120 that were set up, especially in New York? They set up all these extra facilities that, I mean,

00:19:57.840 they brought in ships and everything. Most of that stuff ended up going empty. What about putting the

00:20:03.600 elderly coronavirus patients there and giving them round-the-clock care? Instead of setting them

00:20:10.000 right back into a nursing home, and nursing homes, which, by the way, were not given time to set up

00:20:16.220 and be prepared to handle this. And so the virus spread like wildfire.

00:20:24.040 And yet, these governors who are doing this, Cuomo, Newsom, you know, the governors who have the worst

00:20:32.540 outbreaks and have handled it most incompetently, they're the ones hailed by the media. The media is

00:20:41.180 constantly falling to their knees, polishing Andrew Cuomo's shoes, talking about what a great job he's

00:20:48.240 doing, how they should replace Biden with him. And yeah, I mean, anybody would be better than Biden

00:20:53.320 for the Democrats, probably at this point, but even Andrew Cuomo. But here's the way the media is

00:20:58.240 presented. You want to talk about living in an upside-down world. The governors who have the,

00:21:03.580 who've had the worst outbreak and have had the worst response to the outbreak, they're the ones who

00:21:09.140 are hailed as heroes, while the governors who have the, who have, who have best controlled their

00:21:14.280 outbreaks, like in Florida, are somehow the villains of coronavirus. The way the media talks

00:21:21.120 about the governor of Florida, who not coincidentally is a Republican, I mean, they're trying to make him

00:21:26.460 out into the, um, into the great villain of this story. They don't have a serious outbreak in

00:21:31.640 Florida. I mean, we, we've been told over and over again that there would be a serious outbreak.

00:21:34.940 Remember the, uh, spring breakers. Everyone was freaking out about the spring breakers. Oh my

00:21:40.120 gosh, the spring breakers are going to kill us all. What, what ended up happening with that?

00:21:44.820 They went home and they were fine. We were told that five or six of them had coronavirus. What,

00:21:50.120 did they die? No. Apparently it was okay. It really worked out fine, actually.

00:21:55.080 Four, um, and, oh yeah, and, and Andrew Cuomo, on top of sending coronavirus patients into nursing

00:22:05.740 homes, he also decided to clean the subway system for the first time this week. This thing's been

00:22:12.780 going on for two months and this is the first time that he shut down services overnight to actually do

00:22:17.240 a thorough cleaning of the subway system. Yeah, but what a brilliant, what a brilliant leader,

00:22:23.920 brilliant leader. What great brilliance. I mean, give me, give me one good. Can anyone,

00:22:31.480 I keep hearing how brilliant of a leader he is, but why, what has he actually done? That's good.

00:22:37.020 Point to the success. He sounds great in press conferences. Yeah. His press conferences are

00:22:44.280 great. Great press conferences really comes off great. And he has those cute little, um,

00:22:50.240 interviews with his brother on CNN. Aren't they so cute together? That's what matters.

00:23:00.120 Which even that, can you imagine if Fox news had a employed, a member of the Trump family?

00:23:11.800 Imagine if Don jr had his own show on Fox news and, uh, he did every night did interviews with his dad.

00:23:18.780 Where he was just telling his dad, how great he is.

00:23:24.560 Do you think the left and the media, do you think they would be

00:23:28.000 gushing about how cute and wonderful and lovely these moments are between father and son,

00:23:33.920 the way they do with the brother, brother thing on CNN? No, they would say this is outrageously

00:23:39.580 inappropriate. This is bad journalism. We're in the middle of a pandemic. Okay. If you,

00:23:46.260 if you've got someone on an elected official who's, who's heading up the response to this,

00:23:51.800 uh, whether in New York or nationwide, you need to actually ask him some good questions. Don't,

00:23:56.800 don't bring in a family member to question him.

00:24:03.100 Four. And, um, here's an odd way to pay tribute. Here's a tweet from NY, the NYPD. It says,

00:24:07.880 jet blue aircrafts will conduct a flyover over Manhattan, uh, over Manhattan Queens and the

00:24:13.500 Bronx to salute frontline first responders and healthcare workers. The aircrafts will fly at

00:24:17.500 approximately 2000 feet. Please follow social distancing guidelines. If viewing in public,

00:24:21.860 oh my gosh, what, what are we doing? First of all, it's New York. Why would you think that people

00:24:36.080 are going to be excited to see commercial aircraft flying low to the ground through the city? Like

00:24:42.460 of all the ways to pay tribute in New York? How is that your go-to? And meanwhile, the NYPD is

00:24:52.460 constantly, you know, they're arresting people for not social distancing. And now you're staging a,

00:24:57.520 a spectacle for people to come outside and see. Number five. Okay. There's too much anger. I got to

00:25:05.380 calm down. I need to find something positive. Okay. So here we go. I, you know, I, I play a lot of

00:25:09.540 TikTok videos, um, on this show for good reason, because that's always news, relevant news. Usually

00:25:15.700 it's TikTok videos that have gone viral, uh, and usually in a, in a negative way, but I want to

00:25:20.160 inject a little positivity. So here's a viral TikTok video that I personally found both informative and

00:25:25.980 inspiring. Watch this. Hey guys. So I get a lot of questions about hot tea. So today I wanted to show

00:25:32.760 you what this American girl likes as hot tea. So I mix a lot of ingredients together. So first is one

00:25:39.360 cup of Insta tea, two cups of Tang, country time lemonade, one cup of sugar, another cup of sugar,

00:25:48.280 a little bit of cinnamon, a little bit of cloves, mix it all together. Put some water in a cup,

00:25:56.880 heat your water in the microwave, add a few teaspoons to your hot water, give it a little stir.

00:26:02.320 And that's what I like for hot tea. That looks delicious. I, that's, you see, true, true culinary

00:26:09.180 geniuses are never appreciated in their own time. So people are making fun of this woman for that 1.00

00:26:13.880 recipe, but she will be remembered by history and revered. And in fact, this snack kind of reminds

00:26:20.060 me of a snack that I came up with. If you're looking for a meal to eat with that delicious tea,

00:26:26.160 here's one. You could try this lightly fry some bacon. You wrap it around a Snickers bar,

00:26:33.020 cover with shredded cheese, pop it in the microwave for five seconds, just enough to get

00:26:37.740 the cheese a little bit melty. And then you top it with gravy, eat it with a fork and knife.

00:26:42.460 I'm telling you, you won't regret it. You might regret it, but, but it's good anyway.

00:26:48.820 Especially if you happen to be say on death row, uh, and you're looking for a last meal,

00:26:54.460 you've given up all hope of living, then I would recommend that one too. All right. Now for your

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00:28:22.600 Okay. Now for your daily cancellation, I am canceling everybody who had anything to do with

00:28:27.580 this segment from CNN. That iconic music screams summer and we all scream for ice cream.

00:28:40.920 But during a pandemic, social distance, the rule getting close to the ice cream man could mean

00:28:46.520 getting something else. Fact of life. Yet here's Mr. Freeze, not his name in his truck of treats,

00:28:52.720 unmasked, unglugged, taking cash for cones in the Northwest burbs.

00:28:59.540 That's when CBS2 Assignment Editor, Greg Kelly, father of two, dead on a bike, said, wait a minute.

00:29:05.960 You think it's a good idea to be doing this with the stay at home order? COVID-19.

00:29:09.760 Eventually, our Greg got a bit closer, tried to get an answer from Mr. Freeze. Again, not his name.

00:29:16.280 Why are you selling ice cream to children without wearing a mask?

00:29:22.920 Why are you trying to? Are you sick? Am I sick? No, and I want to say that.

00:29:27.880 I'm not sick either. Why are they quarantining healthy people? This is not a law.

00:29:33.960 At this time, face coverings are required in public situations where social distance cannot be

00:29:41.180 maintained. I have a permit. I get permits.

00:29:44.300 Right. You got the permit before the stay at home order went into place.

00:29:48.540 I can't understand what you're saying. Back up and remove the mask.

00:29:52.720 I'm not removing the mask.

00:29:53.740 He drove off after the questioning by our assignment desk editor, dad, biker, and journalist, Greg Kelly.

00:30:06.600 But this all happened in Hoffman Estates, and tonight we'd learn ice cream trucks there are banned,

00:30:12.460 have been for years. The village manager tells us if you see that ice cream man, call 911.

00:30:18.000 I just, honestly, if you told me that segment was done as a parody of the lockdown and of all the

00:30:28.120 paranoid neighborhood snitches, if you told me that was a parody, a satire of the coronavirus

00:30:33.600 busybodies, I'd believe you. I would believe that that was some kind of Babylon Bee skit. 0.87

00:30:40.160 100% I would believe it. It is hard to believe that that is real, but it is real.

00:30:46.520 And I'll tell you what makes it hard to believe, even though it is, again, indeed, definitely real.

00:30:52.020 But, see, I can always understand. I'm never perplexed when a person does something very stupid.

00:30:59.800 That never confuses me. I get it. There are dumb people out there who do dumb things.

00:31:03.020 But when that very dumb thing has to go through an approval process and a bunch of other people have

00:31:11.560 to be involved in it, and so now you've got this whole chain of dumbness, and throughout that entire

00:31:19.260 chain, nobody apparently even once spoke up and said, wait a second, guys, I think this might be

00:31:25.080 very dumb. That's when it perplexes me. And they're so proud of themselves. The tool bag on the bike,

00:31:33.300 the reporter, everyone, they post this on social media. They're so proud. CBS, they're so proud of

00:31:39.580 it. They thought, now this is great work, guys. It's not just that they didn't think it was dumb.

00:31:45.340 They thought they had a hit on their hands. They thought they had a Pulitzer Prize winner,

00:31:49.520 which, who knows, maybe they actually will win a Pulitzer Prize, considering who they give Pulitzers

00:31:52.540 to these days. But they thought they had something, and they'd be getting applause from everybody for

00:31:57.800 this. That's what they thought. Here they are harassing and shaming a man who's trying to

00:32:02.700 make a living. Here they are bullying a working class guy in an ice cream truck, and they feel

00:32:08.220 totally vindicated, totally righteous, like they're fighters for truth and justice in the

00:32:12.400 American way. It's amazing. What absolute idiots. And that's the most charitable thing I could possibly 1.00

00:32:18.400 say about them. I have an idea. Here's a better idea, okay? Mind your own damned business. Leave this

00:32:26.580 guy alone. Let him earn a living. You earn a living if you're in the media. You still have a

00:32:34.540 job. God forbid this guy try to make some money, too. What? You're the only person that's allowed to

00:32:39.580 make some money? That a-hole on the bike? What he's basically saying is, excuse me, sir, are you

00:32:45.540 trying to earn money? No, no, no. Only I can earn money. I can earn money. You can't. How dare you,

00:32:50.840 sir? Try to earn money? Like me. My needs earned money. I'm important, but you're just an ice cream

00:32:56.520 truck driver. I mean, even if it was necessary to shame this guy, which it isn't at all, not even a

00:33:07.380 little bit at all. No, it's not at all. But even if it was, why would you think that you, as a person in

00:33:13.420 the media, someone who has a job and is well compensated, why would you think that you, of all

00:33:21.040 people, should be the person to do it? Just really disgusting. Meanwhile, this guy is outside.

00:33:29.600 He's serving children outside. The virus doesn't really spread outside. Kids don't really contract

00:33:37.020 it or spread it. This is one of the safest jobs in the world to do. There is no reason. And if

00:33:43.380 anyone's being put at risk, it would be him as the ice cream truck driver. If anybody's at any,

00:33:48.920 and you know, he's not really at any real risk either. But if anybody's at risk, it's him. So

00:33:52.460 he's making a decision because he wants to earn a living and he wants to, and he wants to sell some

00:33:57.320 ice cream. There is no reason why ice cream trucks shouldn't operate during this. In fact, I think we

00:34:03.520 could all use some ice cream right now. I think we could use the sound of an ice cream truck driving

00:34:07.600 down the street. There should be more of them, not less. We should be setting out fleets of ice cream trucks.

00:34:13.380 How about, how about injecting a little bit of joy and normalcy into all of this bleak,

00:34:19.200 you know, madness, especially kids. Kids have been locked in their homes. They can't see their

00:34:28.040 friends. I got four of them. It's, it's tough on the kids and they don't, they don't understand why

00:34:33.140 they can't leave that. I don't understand it either. Uh, they especially don't understand it. So

00:34:38.260 I think it's great. Not only is it great, this guy's earning a living. I think it's great that

00:34:43.040 he's, you know, something a little bit normal and something fun for kids so they can enjoy

00:34:50.080 themselves through all of this. We've taken everything away from them. We've taken their

00:34:54.720 friends from them. We've taken away the playgrounds and we've taken away birthday parties and everything.

00:35:00.080 You know, Easter took that away from everybody, not just the kids. Um, uh, it's just cancellation is, uh,

00:35:13.320 should only be the beginning of our response to that. Okay. Let's move on to emails. You can always

00:35:23.900 email the show. If you become a daily wire member, you can email. Um, even if you're not one of the

00:35:28.460 elite insider plus members, you can still email the show, uh, but you know, I might not respond

00:35:33.860 to the email because frankly, I only respond to the most elite people because I am an elitist

00:35:40.240 myself. This is from Marshall says, hi, Matt. Love the show. Question. Have you seen plandemic?

00:35:45.260 What did you think? Yeah. Plandemic is this video that's going around. Uh, I haven't seen it yet.

00:35:51.400 I've been asked about it a million times. I've heard a lot about it. Uh, as I admit, I have not seen it.

00:35:56.960 So I can't say a lot about it. A couple of things I will say. Usually whenever I say I can't say much

00:36:03.780 about something, that's a prelude to me saying a lot about it. So, uh, number one, I know that

00:36:08.300 they've been taking this thing down for, I guess they took it down from YouTube, took it down from

00:36:12.860 Facebook, Twitter, Vimeo. I mean, I think they've taken down and I'm, I'm absolutely against that.

00:36:18.680 I don't think they should be removing the video. They should let people watch it and form their own

00:36:22.620 opinions. Um, but first of all, if, if you're a skeptic about the government's narrative

00:36:33.560 with respect to coronavirus, I think that's good. You should be skeptical. I'm skeptical too. But

00:36:39.460 if you're a skeptic, then you shouldn't go and watch some, uh, internet documentary

00:36:45.760 and implicitly trust everything it says. Cause then you're not a skeptic. Okay. Then, then you're,

00:36:55.360 you're just a sort of a cultist too, but you're looking for a different cult to join.

00:37:00.480 And so it always makes me uncomfortable. I, you know, there's every time there's some big news

00:37:04.240 event, there's always like a, one of these conspiracy videos making its way online. And there are people

00:37:10.060 who become devotees of this video and they say, yeah, you got to watch it. Um, it's like with nine

00:37:17.480 11, that was, what was it? Zeitgeist, that, that, that, that thing. And, uh, yeah. So I don't know. I

00:37:23.620 haven't seen it, but what I would say is you should definitely watch it with a very healthy dose of

00:37:29.020 skepticism. And I can say that without seeing it because you should have skepticism about everything,

00:37:32.640 um, which is just another way of saying being a critical thinker. And then, uh, and then beyond that,

00:37:38.400 I would also say, I don't know how much this thing gets into the conspiracy arena because I haven't

00:37:43.640 seen it. Just the name of it, plannedemic makes it sound like conspiracy. It was planned, right?

00:37:49.100 It seems to be implied. Um, I think we should remember that it, most of the time with the

00:37:57.300 government, uh, you don't need to get into conspiracy theories to understand what they're doing and why

00:38:03.680 they did it. Usually things like just really simple, but sort of more boring explanations are

00:38:09.460 available and are far more plausible. Most of the time, like moral cowardice, incompetence,

00:38:14.580 selfishness, political posturing, those sorts of things that explains most of what the government

00:38:20.600 does. You don't need to get into smoky rooms, plans being hatched. If that's what this thing does,

00:38:29.000 I don't know if it does or not, but you don't, there's no need for that. And, uh, because we

00:38:34.620 can explain. So most of what has happened with the coronavirus response, it's, you know, I keep

00:38:40.700 saying, I don't understand it while I'm being facetious. I do understand it. I know why they're

00:38:43.980 doing it. Most of them for the reasons I just gave it's cowardice. Okay. There are a lot of governors

00:38:51.940 who jumped on this bandwagon because they didn't want to be one of the ones to stay open. And, uh,

00:38:57.160 you know, and, and then they were afraid that even, even if it's the right thing to do,

00:39:00.640 they were afraid that the body count would be blamed on them and they didn't want that.

00:39:03.960 So they were just covering their own asses. Um, a lot of incompetence. They just don't know what

00:39:09.840 they're doing. A lot of selfishness. They're only worried about their own, you know, themselves and

00:39:15.220 their own image. A lot of political posturing. They're just trying to figure out what's the,

00:39:19.180 what's the best political move here. Not what's actually the best thing to do. What's the best

00:39:22.820 political move. And so I think there's been a whole lot of that. And, um, that unfortunately

00:39:28.940 is enough to explain why we plunged ourselves into a great depression and put 33 million people out of

00:39:36.460 work to address a virus that mainly kills people who are 85 years old or over, over. Okay.

00:39:43.020 Let's go to Thomas says, Matt, I think you're too hard on some of our elected officials when it comes

00:39:49.400 to the coronavirus response. There was a lot we didn't know early on. They acted on the best

00:39:53.180 information we had. Some of that information was bad. Blame China. I think that's where your anger

00:39:56.780 should be. No, I disagree with you. Yeah. I mean, blame China. We should be angry at China, but, 0.58

00:40:01.440 um, I think that in our anger at China, we should not lose sight of the fact that our own government

00:40:05.740 deserves quite a lot of anger as well. In fact, um, the great depression that we're now heading into

00:40:11.020 and 33 million people unemployed, that is not the fault of China actually. That's because China 1.00

00:40:16.160 isn't the one who set our policy. Yeah. They may have sent the virus here, uh, sent in the,

00:40:22.080 in the sense of it emanated from, from them and perhaps from one of their laboratories.

00:40:26.940 So it may be their fault that the virus came here, but they didn't set the policy. They didn't

00:40:32.600 decide how to respond to it. They responded how they responded, but they didn't make that decision

00:40:38.140 for us. We made that decision. And by we, I mean government, people in government, bureaucrats

00:40:42.620 and elected officials. So they should get a hell of a lot of, of our anger. And, um, you say we

00:40:48.580 didn't have all the information early on. Well, sure we didn't, but there was a lot of stuff we did

00:40:51.500 know early on. The fact that it mainly affects the elderly. We knew that early on the fact that

00:40:56.840 it doesn't seem to be affecting children that much. We knew that early on. I mean, there was a lot of

00:41:00.300 basic stuff we did know early on and there were epidemiological experts and so on who from the

00:41:07.120 very beginning were saying, this is not the right approach. It's just that the powers that be decided

00:41:13.640 to listen to different quote unquote experts. And I think they made that decision for all the reasons

00:41:18.280 I just outlined. And also, even if we didn't know everything, no, you don't shut down your economy

00:41:27.660 and destroy your society just in case. Let's just shut it all down and figure it out as we go along.

00:41:36.500 No, that's not the right response. That's not what you do. You don't put 33 million people out of work

00:41:42.740 just in case, right? Just as a, just as a precautionary measure while we kind of figure out

00:41:49.660 what's happening. I would argue that that is not the right response. I would argue that if you don't

00:41:55.760 have all the information and you don't know exactly what's going on, that's all the more reason not

00:41:59.960 to do exactly what they did. Okay. This is from Paul finally says, your analysis of the Georgia

00:42:05.580 shooting was terrible in many ways. You always say you want citizens to step up and not rely on the

00:42:10.420 government. Well, that's what a citizen, that's what a citizen's arrest is all about. They were doing

00:42:14.280 exactly what you say people should do and handling a situation to protect their neighborhood.

00:42:18.420 I think you're just trying to appease the left by buying into the racism narrative. Okay, Paul.

00:42:22.880 And I've heard this about appeasing the left many times in the last couple of days. And

00:42:29.160 first of all, do you really think, do you really think I'm trying to appease the left?

00:42:36.740 You think, you think that's what I'm worried about doing?

00:42:41.860 I mean, did you watch the show yesterday where I spent the first 20 minutes

00:42:45.360 basically insulting feminists and about the birth control issue? It's like, if I'm trying to

00:42:52.680 appease the left, do I do that? Is that a segment I decide to do?

00:42:57.520 Look at my whole body of work. You think appeasing the left is my goal? Because if it is, I am really

00:43:06.020 bad at it. I, I, if it is, I am the worst appeaser that has ever walked the earth.

00:43:12.920 No, consider the possibility that I'm not trying to appease anyone. I'm just telling you how I feel

00:43:20.340 about it. Consider the possibility that I'm a human being with a brain and I'm trying to

00:43:26.160 evaluate a situation and come to my own conclusion. This idea that, that every time you happen to agree

00:43:34.280 with the left on a particular issue, you're appeasing them is so dumb and so boring. Just stop it with

00:43:43.460 that. Do you really, is that what you think? Do you, do you think every, what do you, how do you

00:43:50.280 evaluate an issue? Because it seems to me, Paul, that you and a lot of other people, what you do

00:43:53.460 is, um, a situation occurs and you look at whatever the left is saying and you just say the opposite.

00:44:01.620 Okay. That's no better than just fall. That's the same thing as following the crowd. That's the

00:44:06.640 same thing as being a bandwagon jumper. That means you're not thinking for yourself rather than judging

00:44:12.280 every issue by looking at what some other group is saying and taking the opposite and unthinkingly

00:44:19.920 taking the opposite position. Rather than doing that, why not use your head, look at the evidence,

00:44:26.760 read the police reports, read, watch the video, listen to the 911 calls and come to your own

00:44:32.300 conclusion. If you do that, I do not see how you could possibly really believe based on what we know

00:44:37.960 that this was a legitimate citizen's arrest. Come on. In fact, we know that it's not, and I'm not even

00:44:44.460 basing this on anything other than what, uh, the McMichaels themselves said. So based on their own

00:44:51.620 version of events, this was not a legitimate citizen's arrest. Because what do we know from

00:44:58.020 them? What do we know? We know two things. Number one, they did not see a crime occur. Number two,

00:45:03.220 they thought he looked like someone who had committed a crime. Not that he, that they saw a crime. We know

00:45:07.260 that. Number two, we also know that they grabbed their guns and, uh, and went after him and told him

00:45:15.580 they just want to talk. That's not a citizen's arrest. Brandishing a gun, and they were brandishing.

00:45:22.280 When you're holding a gun, that's brandishing a gun. Um, it's not like they had the gun holstered.

00:45:27.540 Uh, I mean, the one guy was holding a shotgun. So, but, but he, he, so they were brandishing.

00:45:31.980 Brandishing a gun. Brandishing a gun. Chasing after somebody. Brandishing a gun and telling them you

00:45:37.240 want to talk to them. That is not a citizen's arrest. That is not how a citizen's arrest works.

00:45:42.880 Is not. No. You do not have the authority to do that.

00:45:51.620 As a, as just a random dude.

00:45:53.740 And if you're a, uh, if you're another random dude and, and, and some random dudes roll up on

00:46:01.080 you with guns and say, come here, we want to talk to you. You don't have any responsibility to listen

00:46:04.980 to them. You have every right and every reason in that scenario to think they mean you harm.

00:46:11.440 Because you don't grab a gun and go up to a guy in a hostile way, uh, unless you're willing to use it.

00:46:17.660 And so if you're the one being pursued, you have every reason, every right to think that they mean

00:46:22.200 you harm and to respond accordingly, which is what this man did. No, they were not defending

00:46:27.700 themselves. He was defending himself against people who came after him with a gun.

00:46:34.780 Not a citizen's arrest. You've got to drop that. That's not what it was. In fact,

00:46:38.040 like I said, listen to the 911 calls. Someone did a 911 call. And I, you know, I saw this 911 call

00:46:43.480 because defenders of the McMichaels were spreading it around online as if it's some kind of, uh, you know,

00:46:49.140 pardon the expression, some kind of smoking gun, um, uh, evidence in, in favor of the McMichaels.

00:46:54.540 So I listened to the 911 call and it, it makes them look even worse. The 911 call was, it wasn't

00:47:00.940 one of the McMichaels. It was some other guy called the police to report that there was a guy in a,

00:47:08.580 on a construction site in a half built home. That was a home that's open. And, uh, that,

00:47:15.520 that was the report. And the 911 operator asks him, is he breaking in? Did he break in?

00:47:20.460 And the guy on the call says, no, it's open. And then he's asked, and then the 911 operator asked,

00:47:26.340 what is he doing wrong? We'll send the cops. Tell me what he's doing wrong. The guy can't explain it.

00:47:30.560 The guy doesn't give any reason of what he's doing wrong. Just that he looks kind of weird.

00:47:34.460 He's on a construction site. And then he leaves and he runs off. That's it. So the 911 call is that a guy

00:47:40.720 was on a construction site in the middle of the day and was in a half built, half built home briefly

00:47:45.420 and then left. And you think that's reason for three armed men to chase him down? Are you kidding

00:47:53.160 me? Come on. What do you think? Do you think if I'm, what if I'm in, uh, I'm in a Walmart and, uh,

00:48:03.320 I see a guy looks like he might've shoplifted, but I'm not sure. He looks, he looks sort of like a 0.99

00:48:08.200 guy who would shoplift, you know, um, uh, would I be justified if, and let's say I'm carrying a gun,

00:48:14.780 you know, would I be justified in pulling my gun out, following him into the parking lot

00:48:19.940 and saying, holding my gun saying, come here, I want to talk to you.

00:48:25.820 And then if he gets scared because he thinks I'm trying to abduct him or kill him, which would be

00:48:30.260 a reasonable conclusion and a struggle ensues and I shoot him dead in the parking lot, but you think I

00:48:35.800 did nothing wrong? All good. Just be, just being a, uh, uh, attentive, good citizen. No, I'm going to

00:48:44.480 go to jail for that. That is at best vigilantism. That's the, that's the best spin you could put on

00:48:54.280 that. Okay. You, it's, you don't have to be very creative to see if, if we allow this kind of thing,

00:49:02.800 like armed citizens to just grab guns and, and, and chase down people who look like they may have

00:49:09.300 possibly committed crimes and question them at gunpoint. Like, do you really think that's what

00:49:14.440 we should allow that? That that's, that's what the law should be. I don't think you do think that

00:49:21.220 Paul. I mean, the people who are reflexively defending the McMichaels on this, I, I, I, I,

00:49:25.380 it's one thing. If you want to take a position of, we don't know all the facts. Let's, uh, you know,

00:49:30.640 let's, let's let's let the process play out. Okay, fine. But the people who are offering full

00:49:37.400 throated defenses like you are of these two guys, even after the video that you saw, I, I don't,

00:49:44.140 I just, I just flat out don't believe that you really think objectively they were justified. I flat

00:49:50.100 out don't believe it. I don't believe you. What is your motivation? I don't know, but I don't believe

00:49:57.440 it. Um, because this is any rational person should at a minimum say there is cause for concern here.

00:50:11.220 It's good. They were arrested. We need to look into this.

00:50:17.600 All right. We'll wrap up. Okay. In fact, one other example. Okay. I got to finish up. Um,

00:50:23.020 uh, in fact, I mean, if you think about it, we've all, maybe a lot of us have been in a,

00:50:28.620 in a situation, not unlike this, didn't go this way. But what I mean is think about a time when you

00:50:34.340 have seen someone in public acting in a suspicious way. A lot of us have been. So, so example for me a

00:50:40.140 little while ago, I was on the road, there was a car in front of me driving very erratically. Okay.

00:50:45.060 Um, clearly somebody on drugs or drunk, you know, it was one of those things very obvious from the

00:50:50.480 way the car was, was, uh, was driving. And so I called the police because this is someone who could

00:50:56.560 kill himself or someone else. You know, I'm not going to just let him drive off. Feel like I have

00:51:00.040 a moral responsibility. So I called the police and, um, I followed the car at a safe distance just so I

00:51:06.940 could tell the cops where he was going. And pretty soon the cops got there and I left. My part was

00:51:11.100 done. Okay. Would I have been justified in running the guy off the road and grabbing a gun and telling

00:51:20.460 him to come out and talk to me? Or in fact, forget about the gun. What if I had just run him off the

00:51:27.780 road and in the process he veered off into a ditch, hit a tree and died? Would I be at least partially

00:51:34.260 responsible for that? I, I am the one who ran him off the road. I think you would say, yeah,

00:51:40.360 I mean, I, I killed the guy. You might say, well, he was in danger already, but I killed him and my

00:51:47.580 actions directly killed him. And so I would go to jail for that. Um, so the analogy here is clear.

00:51:54.640 They, they could have followed the guy. He was on foot. They were in cars. They had two cars. It was

00:52:00.260 actually three guys in two cars with guns for an unarmed dude in the road in the middle of the

00:52:05.500 daylight. Uh, they could have just followed him and waited for the cops to show up. It's they

00:52:10.420 weren't out in a desert six hours from the nearest police station. No, instead they wanted to be the

00:52:17.560 hero. They wanted to play tough guy. They wanted to play action hero. They were acting like they were

00:52:21.660 in a movie. Someone died. They killed him. They need to go to jail. I'm glad they were arrested.

00:52:25.960 Um, very glad for it. Okay. We'll leave it there. Thanks for watching everybody. Have a great

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The Matt Walsh Show - May 08, 2020

Ep. 483 - If You're Still Scared, Stay Home. The Rest Of Us Will Get Back To Our Lives

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