The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 485 - Girls Sue To Keep Boys Off Girls' Sports Teams. Judge Rigs The Case

00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Walsh Show, three brave high school girls are suing to keep boys off of girl

00:00:04.660 sports in the state, but the judge has rigged the case against them in a really outrageous way that

00:00:11.580 you just have to hear about. Now, we touched on this story briefly on the show yesterday,

00:00:14.800 but I want to go into more depth on it because I think it deserves more attention,

00:00:17.860 certainly more attention than it's going to get in mass media. Also, five headlines,

00:00:21.400 including a developing showdown in Pennsylvania between the dictator governor and county officials

00:00:26.520 who want to reopen against his wishes. I think we're going to see more of this in states across

00:00:30.200 the country. We probably need to see more of this, of elected officials who are sane and reasonable

00:00:35.940 and realize on the local level that we need to get things going again. And I think they're going to

00:00:41.100 have to just start doing that, despite what the dictator emperor in the governor's mansion thinks.

00:00:45.860 So we'll talk about that, plus emails, some emails about the Ahmaud Arbery case and much more as well

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00:02:32.160 reported by the Daily Wire yesterday and that I mentioned, as I said briefly during the headline

00:02:36.200 segment of the show, this shows what we're up against in our culture, in the fight for truth

00:02:44.340 and sanity. Because that's what this is really about. On the most basic level, we're just fighting

00:02:50.500 for rationality and sanity and common sense. And I think we have to get there first before we can

00:02:55.740 get to the deeper things. Three high school girls in Connecticut are in a legal dispute over the 1.00

00:03:04.840 state's decision to allow males who identify as transgender to compete on girls' sports teams.

00:03:11.740 Now, in Connecticut, two boys in particular, Andrea Yearwood and Terry Miller are the names they go by,

00:03:18.040 have been basically dominating the female circuit for a couple of years. These would be middling 1.00

00:03:23.980 athletes. Athletes, if they were to compete against their own kind, boys. Against boys, they're, you know,

00:03:31.340 middle of the pack, mediocre runners. But against the girls, they just rake in the wins. Sometimes, 0.79

00:03:38.940 you know, in some races, they have taken first and second place between the two of them.

00:03:44.380 Now, the lawsuit filed by Selena Soule, Alana Smith, and Chelsea Mitchell, those are all real girls,

00:03:50.820 by the way, seek to put a stop to this madness. You know, the lawsuit, basically,

00:03:57.900 the case the lawsuit is making is that males have a biological, inherent biological advantage over

00:04:05.440 girls. And so, therefore, that's why we've, in the past, had this really common sense system of,

00:04:11.820 you know, putting the two sexes in their own sports leagues. Let's go back to that. 1.00

00:04:17.680 That's the case that these girls are making. But just as the track races are rigged against them now, 1.00

00:04:23.840 so it seems, so it seems, is the courtroom. District Judge Robert Chetigny, presiding over

00:04:29.060 the case, recently instructed lawyers for the plaintiffs that they may not refer to trans

00:04:36.280 athletes as male. Okay, here's the full quote. I read this yesterday on the show. I'm going to read

00:04:40.820 it again. Remember, this is a judge in a courtroom. This is not a, you know, like a gender studies

00:04:48.160 professor at some university. This is what a judge is saying. This is a transcript from a conference

00:04:56.520 call with the lawyers, and here's what he said. What I'm saying is, you must refer to them as

00:05:01.040 transgender females rather than as males. Again, that's the more accurate terminology, and I think

00:05:07.380 that it fully protects your client's legitimate interests. Referring to these individuals as

00:05:11.420 transgender females is consistent with science, common practice, and perhaps human decency.

00:05:15.120 To refer to them as males, period, is not accurate. Certainly not as accurate, and I think it's

00:05:20.120 needlessly provocative. I don't think that you surrender any legitimate interest or position

00:05:24.400 if you refer to them as transgender females. That is what the case is about. This isn't a case

00:05:28.680 involving males who decided that they want to run in girls' events. This is a case about girls who say 0.86

00:05:33.240 that transgender girls should not be allowed to run in girls' events. So, going forward, we will not 1.00

00:05:38.080 refer to the proposed interveners as males. Understood?

00:05:41.060 And then they were told that if they really have trouble complying with this order, they'd have

00:05:48.120 to take it to the Court of Appeals. You know, if for some reason Chitigny's order that they can't

00:05:54.160 call males male troubles them, then they'll have to take it to a different court. And now the lawyers 1.00

00:06:00.800 are calling for Chitigny to recuse himself, correctly pointing out that the judge has, quote,

00:06:05.260 destroyed the appearance of impartiality in this proceeding. Indeed, he has done exactly that.

00:06:11.240 The judge has come out not just as a believer in left-wing gender theory. Not just that. I mean,

00:06:18.800 that would be bad enough. But he's come out as one of the more radical proponents of it, actually.

00:06:25.400 Because calling, quote, unquote, trans girls female, that's what he's saying. He's not even just

00:06:31.260 saying they're girls. He's saying they're female. And that is a step beyond what even

00:06:36.300 many defenders of Yearwood and Miller and other trans athletes would say.

00:06:42.980 The usual line is that there's some kind of vague distinction between girl and female,

00:06:48.160 so that a girl might be a girl, but not necessarily female. That's the usual line that we hear. And that

00:06:55.060 line is incoherent and crazy enough as it is. And it makes no sense. But it's not as crazy,

00:07:01.120 or as incoherent as to flat out claim that individuals with XY chromosomes and penises 0.98

00:07:06.100 are female, which is what he's saying. And that the craziest and most incoherent version of the 0.98

00:07:14.560 pro-trans argument is the one that this judge not only believes, but is trying to impose on the girls

00:07:19.800 as a prerequisite for their lawsuit to continue. Now, the problem, of course, is that the fact that

00:07:26.500 trans athletes are male is the whole point. The girl's entire case is that males and females are 1.00

00:07:33.960 biologically different. And those differences grant males inherent advantages in most athletic

00:07:39.720 competitions. If they can't make that case, then they can't make any case because that's the only

00:07:46.280 case. And it's a pretty good case, I would say. If they have to pretend for the sake of the lawsuit

00:07:51.120 that boys are female, then they lose the very basis for the lawsuit. This is the point that

00:07:59.120 Judge Chetigny pretends not to understand. Remember this part of his little lecture there. He says,

00:08:05.940 this isn't a case involving males who have decided that they want to run in girls' events.

00:08:10.460 On the contrary, your honor, that is exactly what the case involves. That is exactly what the case is.

00:08:17.780 Males who want to run in girls' events. That's what it is, by definition. If they were females 1.00

00:08:24.440 competing against other females, there would be no reason for a lawsuit. It wouldn't be a problem. 0.85

00:08:30.920 I'm thinking that these girls who filed the lawsuit have raced against many other girls, 0.72

00:08:35.400 hundreds of other girls. Never an issue. Now it is. Why is that? Because they're not girls. 1.00

00:08:41.040 And they're certainly not female. Now, I only wish that the lawyers for the girls had thought to ask 0.66

00:08:52.240 the judge a simple question, which I think is a very relevant question. And to say, well, okay,

00:08:59.440 judge, you say they're female. What's that? Can you define the word female? I mean, 1.00

00:09:06.040 he apparently thinks that a female is somebody with XX chromosomes or somebody with XY chromosomes.

00:09:12.920 And that pretty much covers the whole gamut of human possibilities. So then that would mean that

00:09:18.880 the judge thinks that a female is really nothing in particular. If he has a definition for the word 0.88

00:09:26.320 that would allow it to retain some kind of distinct and objective and unique meaning, 0.76

00:09:30.300 while also permitting penis-wielding XYs to fall under its umbrella, I'd really like to hear what that 0.99

00:09:37.280 definition is. But I don't think he can provide one. I don't think anyone can provide one, because I've 0.93

00:09:42.140 been asking, as you know, for like a year, and I have yet to get a response. And whatever definition of

00:09:49.840 the word female or woman that Judge Chetigme might offer now, you know, I have to wonder if it would be

00:09:58.360 the same definition that he would have offered five or 10 years ago. The judge at 68 years old.

00:10:05.280 I'm guessing that if I were to go back to when he would say 60 years old and ask him if men can have 0.98

00:10:12.220 babies or if women can have penises, he would offer a firm no on both counts. I could be wrong. You know, 0.96

00:10:18.780 it's possible that he's been a radical babbling incoherently about transgender females for most of 0.64

00:10:25.060 his adult life. That's possible. I tend to doubt it. Because 10 years ago, no one but the most fringe

00:10:33.540 militant on the LGBT left was entertaining any of this nonsense. You didn't hear about it.

00:10:41.140 And that's not to say that people who identified as transgender didn't exist 10 years ago.

00:10:44.820 They did, obviously. But it wasn't an issue. We weren't talking about it. And there was almost

00:10:53.620 nobody going around saying that men can have babies, women can have penises. There was almost 0.99

00:11:00.180 nobody arguing that men should be in the women's bathroom or that we should have boys racing against

00:11:06.560 girls. You know, I ran track when I was in high school. And this never came up. It was just never

00:11:14.520 an issue. Nobody ever talked about it. Now, if you want proof that nobody was talking about this 10

00:11:22.980 years ago, all you have to do is look at what every Democrat on the national stage was saying about the

00:11:29.020 issue of transgenderism during the Bush years or any time before that. Just go back and Google it.

00:11:34.500 Think of any of these elected Democrats who have been on the scene for a while.

00:11:39.560 Google their name with transgender and, you know, do a search by time frame. Go back to,

00:11:45.380 you know, I don't know, 2007. What were they saying about it? It wouldn't take long to check

00:11:52.580 because they weren't saying much of anything about it. Now, all of them, though, now all of them,

00:11:57.280 from Chuck Schumer to Joe Biden, claims to believe that men are women and women are men.

00:12:02.400 Did they believe that this whole time, but they just never said anything until the last few years?

00:12:08.500 Have they held this belief within themselves for decades? Or did they decide suddenly,

00:12:16.860 collectively, almost overnight, that the country is filled with females trapped in male bodies and 0.99

00:12:21.720 the only appropriate response to this epidemic is to invite boys into girls' locker rooms and onto 1.00

00:12:25.860 girls' sports teams? Now, the latter would seem to be the case here, that this was an almost

00:12:33.460 overnight transition, as it were, which raises the question, what prompted this drastic change of mind?

00:12:45.320 What sparked Judge Chetigny's epiphany? Assuming that if I had asked Chetigny at 60,

00:12:55.220 you know, is there such a thing as a female with XY chromosomes and a penis? Assuming that if I had 1.00

00:13:01.780 asked him when he was 60 years old, he would have said no. Now he's saying that there is.

00:13:06.720 What happened in between? Why did he change his mind? What about Joe Biden? Joe Biden is 78 years old.

00:13:15.320 That means up until the age of like 70, at least, he thought he was living in a world where men are 0.99

00:13:22.500 men, women are women, and that's pretty much it. He changed his mind. Why?

00:13:30.480 Chetigny says that the science tells us about transgender females. What science? Tell me about 1.00

00:13:36.740 the science. Don't just say science. Ah, the science says it. Science! That's a thing I think that

00:13:41.840 sometimes leftists don't understand. You can't just shout the word science and have that count as

00:13:46.520 making a scientific argument. You can't go around shouting. You make a claim and someone says,

00:13:52.260 where are you getting that from? You can't say, I got it from science. Science told me.

00:13:55.800 Like science is some sort of like

00:13:59.660 creature that, that invisible creature that whispers in your ear and tells you things.

00:14:07.060 Science is a, is a method

00:14:09.140 for ascertaining and understanding the truth of the physical world.

00:14:15.920 So tell me about that method. Don't just say science. What, what, what, by, by what method

00:14:20.660 did you, did you, did you discover that men can have babies?

00:14:27.840 I mean, can you name a scientific breakthrough or discovery that validates this claim you're making?

00:14:34.360 Here's the thing. You take Chetigny, for example. At some point, he decided that girls have penises. 1.00

00:14:43.820 I mean, not to be too crude about it, but that's, but that's what he decided. 0.98

00:14:46.240 I think it's fair to ask why he decided that and when, and is he really quite sure that he wasn't

00:14:54.780 right about this issue the first time? And if we had a real news media, this same question would be

00:15:02.060 asked of every single elected Democrat. I would love to see this question asked just once of one of

00:15:09.520 these people. They are all making breathtaking claims about human sexuality and the nature of

00:15:17.340 human beings. And those claims wildly contradict what most of them have said on the subject for

00:15:22.360 their entire lives until just five seconds ago. Okay. Is this not a flip-flop? Is this not arguably

00:15:29.400 the weirdest and most dramatic flip-flop in political history? Can you think of a, of a more dramatic

00:15:36.100 one? Can you think of one stranger than this where you had politicians that went from, uh, you know,

00:15:42.260 uh, women have vaginas, men have penises to, uh, you can mention, mix and match them. 1.00

00:15:50.580 I think that deserves further investigation. I think we should be asking, why did you change 1.00

00:15:54.420 your mind on this? What happened? Simple question. See, on this issue, I ask really simple, fair

00:16:06.140 questions. It's not a gotcha. When I ask the question of, can you define the word woman or when

00:16:12.100 did you decide that men can have babies and what made you decide that? Simple question. There's, there's 0.92

00:16:18.540 no, it's not a gotcha. There's no ulterior motive. I really want to know. However you explain the

00:16:28.300 shift, we are now left with a country where millions of people believe or pretend to believe

00:16:32.480 anyway, that a biological male can wake up in the morning, announce that he's a female. And the only

00:16:37.220 morally acceptable response from society is enthusiastic affirmation and to just give him

00:16:43.040 whatever he wants, including access to the girl's locker room and the girl's sports teams.

00:16:47.240 And this ideology has seeped into rapidly seeped into every institution, especially our academic

00:16:53.600 institutions. But now we find out even in the courtrooms. And so that is the fight that we are

00:16:58.520 dealing with. Let's go on to headlines. Um, as referenced earlier, a looming showdown is developing

00:17:07.940 in Pennsylvania. Um, some counties in the state are planning to reopen regardless of what the governor,

00:17:14.900 Tom Wolf has to say, and they've decided to take it upon themselves to make these decisions,

00:17:19.840 not waiting for the emperor to give his approval and good for them. I mean, this is exactly what

00:17:26.040 needs to happen. Officials, you know, those who are in power, who are sane and reasonable and

00:17:30.740 understand that we need to save our economy before it's too late. They need to step up and just do the

00:17:36.240 right thing, regardless of what any dictator in any governor's mansion says. And so that's happening,

00:17:42.720 um, in some counties in Pennsylvania, but Tom Wolf is not going to take this defiance lightly.

00:17:47.780 So he issued a string of tweets yesterday and let me read some of what he has to say.

00:17:52.400 I mean, this is, this is just a temper tantrum from a man who does not want to be defied.

00:17:58.720 He says, I won't sit back and watch residents who live in counties under stay-at-home orders get sick

00:18:03.560 because local leaders cannot see the risks of COVID-19 and pushed to reopen prematurely.

00:18:08.120 Today, I'm announcing consequences for counties that do not abide by the law to remain closed.

00:18:13.940 Non-compliant counties won't be eligible for federal, federal stimulus discretionary funds,

00:18:17.700 discretionary funds. Instead, those funds will be allocated to counties working to stop the

00:18:21.540 spread of COVID-19. Businesses should know that opening in counties that don't abide by the law

00:18:25.600 will potentially jeopardize their business liability insurance or the protections it provides.

00:18:30.360 Dine-in restaurants that open in counties that have not been authorized to reopen will risk

00:18:33.780 receiving a citation. These citations can ultimately lead to the loss of a restaurant's liquor license.

00:18:38.720 If your county reopens prematurely and you don't feel comfortable returning to work,

00:18:42.080 rest assured that the Commonwealth will allow you to continue to receive unemployment compensation,

00:18:45.380 even if your employer reopens. We are fighting a war that has taken lives of too many people and

00:18:51.900 we're winning. The politicians who are encouraging us to quit the fight are acting in a most cowardly way.

00:18:58.440 Cowards. This is what he decrees from his throne. He calls them cowards. Yes, if you don't listen to, 0.99

00:19:05.880 obey, comply with his orders, you're a coward. That's the way it works now in upside down land. 0.89

00:19:14.240 Now, a lot could be said in response to this from Tom Wolfe. But I'll just mention one thing,

00:19:22.100 a reminder, as I've discussed on the show throughout the last week or two, because I do think this is

00:19:26.820 the big story of the coronavirus epidemic in America. Tom Wolfe is one of the governors who

00:19:33.260 sent, by mandate, sent infected people into nursing homes. He is directly responsible for

00:19:40.240 many deaths. He is a grandma killer. Calling people grandma killers left and right, well, 0.99

00:19:45.240 he's the grandma killer. Along with Cuomo, along with the governor of, along with Newsom in California

00:19:52.020 and other governors who made the same decision. New Jersey, he has no credibility. He has no moral

00:19:58.700 authority. This epidemic would have been, the death toll would be a fraction, a fraction of what it

00:20:06.580 currently is if guys like Tom Wolfe and Cuomo and others had actually protected nursing homes rather

00:20:13.420 than directly putting them in harm's way. Number two, speaking of not being a coward,

00:20:18.800 the Daily Wire reports Tesla CEO Elon Musk has reopened the company's manufacturing plant in Alameda

00:20:24.940 County, California, elevating his public feud with interim public health officer Dr. Erica Pan,

00:20:31.520 who has prohibited the company from resuming businesses via a countywide order that is more

00:20:35.180 strict than the governor's public health order. In a tweet on Monday afternoon, Musk said that Tesla

00:20:40.340 would begin to ramp up production in the county, which includes the Fremont facility where over

00:20:44.160 10,000 people have jobs. Musk said Tesla is restarting production today against Alameda County rules.

00:20:49.680 I will be on the line with everybody else. If anyone is arrested, I ask that it only be me.

00:20:54.980 So I think that's, again, this is, this is what we're going to see. People are, whether it's

00:21:01.100 individual businesses, we've already seen that with the salon owner down in Texas and other places,

00:21:04.960 county officials, you know, people are just going to start to do the right thing, regardless of what

00:21:11.360 any mandate or, or, or, or directive or order from the governor says. And so if you don't want

00:21:19.000 total lawlessness, if you don't want this thing to get out of control, then you need to step back

00:21:27.800 and let people get back to their lives. Because that's going to happen regardless. I think we've

00:21:32.920 reached a point where people are getting back to their lives, no matter what you say.

00:21:37.460 You could fight against it. You can start issuing citations, putting people in jail, have more chaos,

00:21:43.440 or you can start facilitating this transition back into freedom and sanity.

00:21:53.280 Let's see what else. According to the AP, it says Twitter announced Monday, it will start

00:21:58.260 alerting users when a tweet makes disputed or misleading claims about the coronavirus.

00:22:04.020 The new rule is the latest in a wave of stricter policies that tech companies are rolling out to

00:22:08.200 confront an outbreak of virus-related misinformation on their sites. Facebook and Google have already put

00:22:13.460 similar systems in place. Now this, of course, is what the left has been pushing for. They know that

00:22:19.960 Silicon Valley is on their side ideologically, so they want these tech giants to censor, to decide

00:22:26.020 what information is true or worthy of reaching our ears and our eyeballs. And that's fine. I'm not in

00:22:35.080 favor of it, but if that's the position they want to take, they're free to take it. If they want to

00:22:40.800 celebrate censorship and celebrate the control of information by massive corporations, they're

00:22:46.520 entitled to that view. But then my only request is don't turn around and talk about how evil corporations

00:22:55.040 are and how we need to break their influence over our culture and our country and our politics.

00:23:00.300 Don't do that. Don't do that after applauding billion-dollar corporations as they put themselves

00:23:06.340 in the position of being arbiters of truth. Because if you're going to push for them to do that and

00:23:12.420 celebrate it, then you are putting a lot of trust in their hands.

00:23:15.020 Number four, a headline in the mirrors, and this is a headline that you almost won't believe it's

00:23:22.400 real, but it is. Headline says, deadly coronavirus has proven that women are the stronger sex. 1.00

00:23:32.320 Coronavirus proves that women are the stronger sex. The article written by Jane Simmons claims that 1.00

00:23:38.420 because more men are dying of the coronavirus, women are stronger. So girl power, right? This 1.00

00:23:48.560 writer of an article that was published in a publication is actually gloating. She wrote a

00:23:53.920 whole article gloating about men dying from the disease. So we need not imagine how it would be

00:23:59.960 received if somebody wrote an article claiming that women dying of breast cancer proves that they're

00:24:05.540 the weaker sex. We don't need to imagine it because we know that would be received exactly 1.00

00:24:09.900 as it should be received with contempt and scorn and mockery, which is how this should be received

00:24:14.100 too. But aside from, you know, the loathsomeness of gloating over deaths, and aside from the absurdity

00:24:23.100 of claiming that one sex is weaker because it's more susceptible to a particular illness, especially

00:24:28.000 when both sexes have different illnesses that they're more susceptible to, it has nothing to do with 0.97

00:24:32.300 strength or weakness. Aside from all that, here again, we have a feminist forgetting that she's 1.00

00:24:37.840 not allowed to make these kinds of points anymore. Because this acknowledges biological differences

00:24:44.700 between men and women. In fact, she even says that verbatim in the article, that there are biological

00:24:50.400 differences, physical differences between men and women. But if you're a left-wing feminist, you're not 1.00

00:24:56.140 allowed to say that anymore. That's out the window. Because if you say that, it completely destroys the

00:25:01.880 case for transgenderism. So you have to choose. You can't have both. Either men and women are 1.00

00:25:08.480 interchangeable and the physical differences are non-existent or inconsequential, or men and women

00:25:15.500 are different physically, immutably, biologically. One or the other. Can't be both. And yes, if you're

00:25:24.580 noticing, if you're a feminist and you're noticing that by accepting the trans narrative, 0.81

00:25:33.180 you are forfeiting all the girl power stuff, all the women's rights stuff, all the women are better 1.00

00:25:41.840 than men stuff, all the demonization of men. I mean, all that goes out the window because there's no

00:25:47.920 difference anymore between these two groups. The only difference is social. It's a social

00:25:54.360 construct. Arbitrary. Subjective. So yeah, if you're a left-wing feminist, maybe you're noticing 1.00

00:26:02.560 that. But then either you can just shut up and comply with the trans narrative and the LGBT 0.96

00:26:11.140 narrative, or you can fight back against it to try to reclaim your own narrative. But

00:26:19.460 the two can't coincide. They can't work together. Number five, finally, big news here. The artist

00:26:25.860 Takashi69, one of my personal favorites, just got out of prison a couple of days ago after he snitched

00:26:31.680 on his friends to get a lighter sentence. So he was arrested originally for, I don't know what,

00:26:37.940 was it, I don't know, murder or something? Drugs? Something like that. But he, and he turned

00:26:44.780 snitch. He snitched on his friends in his, in his gang. And so he got a lighter sentence and he just

00:26:50.480 got released from prison. It was supposed to be like 40 or 50 years, but because he snitched, he got a

00:26:53.780 light sentence. And then with the coronavirus thing and he has asthma, so they let it, they let him out

00:26:59.600 even earlier. And so now he's out, but the thing is he's a rapper and, you know, being a snitch as a

00:27:06.940 rapper, kind of frowned upon. So he went to Instagram live and he tried to explain himself

00:27:13.220 and tried to do a little bit of damage control. And here's how that went.

00:27:18.260 It wasn't worth it. It wasn't. And I'm gonna tell you what, if there is a street code, right?

00:27:24.520 If there is a street code and there's something so, so called as loyalty and everything and no

00:27:29.580 snitching and all of that, I get it, right? But where was the loyalty when you were sleeping with my

00:27:34.620 baby mother? Where was the loyalty when you was caught on the wiretap trying to kill me? Where 0.59

00:27:38.020 was the loyalty when you tried to kidnap my mother? Where was the loyalty when you were

00:27:41.400 stealing millions of dollars from me? Where was that? So who broke it first? I, I get it. Don't

00:27:45.720 fight fire or fire. I'm sorry. But what did I do wrong? Be loyal to n****s that's f***ing my 1.00

00:27:52.720 baby moms? Be loyal to n****s that kidnap me? Beat the s*** out of me on video and everything? 1.00

00:27:58.960 I'm supposed to be loyal to that? No. You know what? You know what it is? Y'all don't 0.93

00:28:03.800 want to accept the fact that those are all true facts. Y'all don't want to accept, y'all

00:28:09.060 understand why I snitch. Y'all understand, y'all don't want to understand. It's not that

00:28:13.320 y'all don't understand. Y'all don't want to understand. Y'all don't want to understand

00:28:16.980 that, damn, this kid really was, he moved their families out of poverty. He paid for schools 0.99

00:28:24.160 for, for, for, for all of the members, whatever. But he snitched on them. Why? Were they loyal

00:28:29.340 to me? Cause I, when, when I met, when I met son, he was sleeping on the rug. I, I, I'll

00:28:34.180 give him one of your, look, listen, I'm a rainbow Mexican here, kid. I rap. I'm not about that

00:28:39.140 gang s***, but listen, I know how to get us out. You wasn't loyal to me, whether, whether, 0.59

00:28:43.900 but y'all understand. Let's, let's, y'all understand. And I know you understand. Y'all

00:28:48.100 don't want to understand.

00:28:48.700 I do. I do understand Takashi 6ix9ine. I do. I've been there. Myself. All of that. I can 0.98

00:28:58.720 relate to everything that was just said, honestly. Even the tattoos, the hair. That's how I look

00:29:05.720 on the weekends. It's, it's pretty uncanny. I just covered up with makeup during the week,

00:29:10.380 but the whole look is great. I mean, he looks like a Batman villain whose origin story is

00:29:14.800 that he fell into a giant tie-dye machine. And that's what I, that's what I love about,

00:29:21.820 about it. Or he looks like a, I don't know, like a My Little Pony character that,

00:29:29.040 you know, after the show ended, got addicted to methamphetamines or something. But anyway,

00:29:35.260 you know, you know what he's, what he's saying, what he's saying about, about whatever he's saying

00:29:41.320 is, is deeply, deeply significant. And as I said, relatable to me and indeed to all humanity.

00:29:47.740 I mean, listen to his words. Listen to what he said there at the end. He said,

00:29:51.720 you understand. And I know you understand. You don't want to understand. You understand.

00:29:59.800 I know you understand. You don't want to understand. Wow. Think about that. Think about

00:30:09.180 what he's saying. So much truth there. He's basically saying, listen, truth itself, okay,

00:30:16.400 the most difficult truths of life are self-evident to us. We have an innate understanding of the truth.

00:30:23.320 truth. But how often, alas, have we wished to not understand? How often have we wished

00:30:29.660 that we did not know what we do indeed know? How often have we looked upon the innocence of a child

00:30:37.020 and said, if only, if only I could have that innocence back, that ignorance, that blissful

00:30:42.840 ignorance. And that's, that's what I take from Tekashi 6ix9ine. And that's why he's one of the great

00:30:49.820 artists and one of the great poets and one of the great thinkers of, of our time. And I'm,

00:30:55.480 I'm just glad he's out of prison finally. So I can once again, enjoy his philosophical musings and

00:30:59.980 his angelic musing, uh, angelic music that is for years to come or until he gets shot for being a

00:31:06.480 snitch, I mean, whichever comes first, but we'll, we'll pray for him. Okay. Let's go on to our daily

00:31:12.400 cancellation. Um, and, uh, it's a quick one today. Today we're canceling whoever wrote this letter

00:31:19.760 to slate. The letter is, I love my boyfriend, but want a girlfriend. That's how the letter

00:31:26.420 and the advice column is, is titled on slate, but that's not really the cancelable part. Okay.

00:31:31.700 I mean, it is cancelable, but don't get me wrong, but you need to, you need to do more than that

00:31:36.340 these days. Okay. Just, just wanting a polyamorous relationship, uh, that could have got you canceled

00:31:40.600 by me a few years ago, but you gotta, you gotta impress me just normal degeneracy. Isn't going to do

00:31:46.640 it. Okay. Um, so let's read the actual letter. This is what it says in part, my partner is the

00:31:53.000 most compassionate, loving, and respectful partner I could ask for. He supported me through

00:31:57.300 difficult times, weight fluctuations, questioning my gender, changing my name, sobriety, among other

00:32:03.480 things. I am incredibly attracted to women. He knows this. And we have talked about opening our

00:32:08.140 relationship. However, he is on the spectrum of asexuality and is only interested in having

00:32:12.260 sex with me. Did you catch that? He's on the spectrum of asexuality. Why? Because he wants 0.99

00:32:18.040 to be monogamous. That now puts you on the spectrum of asexuality. We'll get back to that in a minute,

00:32:22.740 but I also wanted to take note of this part here. Okay. Um, the thought of me having sex with other

00:32:28.400 people makes him deeply uncomfortable as we both relate to sex in very different ways. We have had 0.57

00:32:32.760 this conversation a few times in the year, but, um, that we've been together, but with no solid plan or

00:32:37.940 outcome. Okay. We've had this conversation a few times in the year that we've been together

00:32:43.320 with no solid plan or outcome. Okay. So this guy has been with this girl for a year. I'm assuming

00:32:50.900 it's a girl and a guy, but who really knows at this point, but I'll just, let's just go with that

00:32:54.200 for the sake of argument. This guy has been with this girl for a year and he's already put up with

00:33:00.160 everything she listed at the top. Difficult times, weight fluctuation, questioning my name,

00:33:04.460 questioning my gender, changing my name, sobriety among other things. One can only imagine what

00:33:10.980 the other things might be in a list like that. And now she goes off and she wants to sleep with 0.88

00:33:14.860 other people. All of that in a year and they aren't married or anything. So the real advice

00:33:21.760 that needs to be given here is to the, is to the, the guy, to the, to the other person. And that needs

00:33:27.440 to be like, get the hell out. Just run away as fast as you can. What are you doing? You

00:33:34.340 fool. What are you thinking? Subjecting yourself to, listen, you, you usually see the sanest version 1.00

00:33:41.880 of a person in the first year. Ask my wife. Okay. First year of, of, of being with my wife is the

00:33:46.860 sanest I've been around her. Okay. Um, uh, it just, it's mentally, it all goes downhill from there.

00:33:52.800 Right? Like, because that's, that's when people are putting on their sanest front, but especially for

00:34:00.300 me, you can, you can only pretend to be sane for so long before your internal craziness comes out.

00:34:05.960 So you keep that in mind. So if you're the guy, what you have to realize is that change the name,

00:34:15.060 change the gender, uh, uh, everything fluctuating weight, sobriety, this and that that's, that's the

00:34:22.320 sanest she's going to get. And it's all, it's only getting crazier from there. So, and of course,

00:34:29.560 this, this advice really applies to anyone. Um, if your boyfriend or girlfriend tells you that we

00:34:35.040 forget about everything else, but if your boyfriend or girlfriend tells you that they want to see other

00:34:38.260 people and have an open relationship, that is definitely a don't pass, go don't collect $200.

00:34:43.640 Just get the hell out kind of moment. No need for a discussion. That's the good thing about it.

00:34:48.420 So it should be a very easy and clean break. If your girlfriend sits you down and says, you know,

00:34:53.080 I was thinking I'd like to have an open relationship. The great thing is that you don't need to say

00:34:57.000 anything. Your response is say nothing. Just okay. Stand up, walk out, walk out the door,

00:35:03.560 never talk to him again. There's no reason to even talk anymore. It's, it's done at that point.

00:35:08.860 Um, but back to the spectrum of asexuality thing, because this is really interesting and it's relevant

00:35:14.760 to me personally, because I never realized that I was asexual. You know, most of you probably aren't

00:35:20.680 surprised to find out that I am, but I'm a little bit surprised. To me, I always thought that I was in a

00:35:25.880 monogamous relationship with my wife. Turns out I'm on the spectrum of asexuality. I'm just a hop,

00:35:32.000 skip and a jump away from being a full on asexual amoeba, uh, reproducing through self-replication. 0.87

00:35:37.880 That's, I'm, I'm very close to that. So you notice what's happening in our culture slowly, but surely. 0.76

00:35:43.940 And this is always the trajectory because first we're told, okay, it's okay to be different,

00:35:50.200 to be weird, to have different kinds of, of, of desires. Um, something that's the people think

00:35:55.840 it's perverse. It's not, you know, it's, or, or even if it is, it's okay. You want to be

00:35:59.880 polyamorous. That's fine. Yeah, it's different, but it's fine. That's the first step. And then we're

00:36:05.620 told actually, no, these kinds of desires, they aren't, they aren't really even different. Uh,

00:36:10.700 they're, they're really normal. Uh, lots of people feel this way, even if they don't say it,

00:36:14.320 it's all normal. Everything is normal. You know, uh, there is no abnormal or normal. Everything's

00:36:19.480 normal. And so, and so it's fine. That's the second step. The third step is to say, actually,

00:36:25.940 these things that you thought were abnormal are not only normal, but the opposite of these things,

00:36:32.740 the previously normal things, they're the abnormal things. And I know we told you that it's okay to be

00:36:37.480 abnormal. We changed our minds. Those abnormal things are bad. You should hate those. So that's where

00:36:42.060 this heads heads to a place where being in a monogamous heterosexual relationship is spurned,

00:36:48.100 is, uh, treated as freakish, as radical, as on some sort of weird spectrum. Um, like there's

00:36:57.340 something wrong with you that, uh, you're, you're, you know, uh, in a relationship with someone and

00:37:01.620 you only desire them. Well, I mean, what's, what's wrong with you? You freak. That's where all this

00:37:06.360 heads. Okay. Um, finally, let's go to emails. As always, a lot of information, a lot of emails

00:37:15.600 rather about the Ahmaud Arbery case. So here's one from John says, Matt, I think you're wrong in the

00:37:21.840 case of Ahmaud Arbery. Um, I think your conclusion so far is flawed simply because you're ignoring the

00:37:27.340 additional information that has come to light since the original video was leaked. There are now no less

00:37:31.760 than two additional sources of video and no less than four additional witnesses. In addition to that,

00:37:36.240 Arbery has been linked by the police to four other cases of theft and burglary in the area where the

00:37:39.900 shooting took place. The new video clearly shows Arbery walking, not running or jogging up the street

00:37:44.900 as he approaches the construction site. He then looks both ways to see if anyone is watching him

00:37:48.600 before running up the driveway and entering the construction site via the garage. Video from

00:37:52.920 inside the construction site shows him looking around. The external video then shows someone from

00:37:56.580 across the street walking towards the house, shouting at Arbery. At this point, Arbery flees down the road.

00:38:01.400 This is when McMichael, uh, the McMichaels video takes over. Given this information, I can

00:38:06.440 reasonably come to the conclusion that McMichaels were indeed attempting a citizen's arrest. First

00:38:10.660 and foremost, Arbery's behavior approaching the house is inconsistent with the idea that he was out

00:38:13.960 for a jog. Secondly, under Georgia law, by entering the house with the intent of stealing something,

00:38:17.980 Arbery was already guilty of a felony. The fact that Arbery's offense was a felony allows McMichaels to

00:38:23.320 pursue and attempt a citizen's arrest under Georgia law. Georgia is also an open carry state,

00:38:28.240 and once Arbery charged him, both McMichaels and Arbery had a legal standing for

00:38:31.280 self-defense claim, no matter what the outcome of the confrontation. Taking all that into

00:38:35.300 consideration, looking at both parties involved, one party is consistently law-abiding while the

00:38:39.340 other was breaking the law at least twice prior to the confrontation. This leads me to believe that

00:38:43.280 Arbery was fleeing potential felony charges, not a racist beatdown. This also leads me to give

00:38:48.020 McMichaels the benefit of the doubt, as he is innocent until proven guilty. Um, okay. Well,

00:38:54.160 John, I think some of your information is just, so I think some of your information is incorrect.

00:39:01.380 And then I also think that you're making a lot of assumptions, um, and, but not framing them as

00:39:06.740 assumptions. You're framing them as facts. So you say that Arbery has been linked to four other cases

00:39:12.540 of burglary and theft. Where did you find that? I, I haven't seen that anywhere and I've looked,

00:39:19.280 so I don't, I don't, that, that, I don't, I don't think that's true. Um, uh, you, you talk about the

00:39:26.260 video of Arbery and I mean, you have this whole description of, of, of the video outside the

00:39:30.520 construction site, looking around to see if anyone's watching. So you're, you're, you're making

00:39:35.760 assumptions about his intention and you're also doing this based on, I've looked at that video.

00:39:41.260 I mean, I've seen this, the video you're talking about. There are two other videos, as you mentioned,

00:39:44.540 um, there's a video from outside the construction site you're talking about. And there's also a video

00:39:49.620 of Arbery inside the construction site, but the video outside, it's, it's really hard to see

00:39:54.580 anything. I don't know how, I mean, you, you have, you, you've come up with, with a lot of very

00:39:58.820 specific details. I would tell anyone watching this right now, go look at the video that he's talking

00:40:03.780 about. It's really hard to tell what the hell's going on. It's, it's, it's, it's distant and great

00:40:08.920 and grainy and it's hard to tell. Um, and then the video inside the construction site, all we see is the

00:40:14.280 guy walking in and looking around. That's all we see. If anything more sinister happened, it's not

00:40:19.780 on the video. Um, you say that Arbery went in with the intent to steal. Well, how, how do you know

00:40:27.880 that? I mean, that's, yes, if he went in with the intent to steal, that's very convenient for your

00:40:32.000 case because then you could say it was, you know, at least the, the, the intention of a felony. And

00:40:36.280 I mean, if you go into a place looking to steal and you don't steal, cause there's nothing to steal.

00:40:39.600 Is it still a felony? I mean, maybe it is. I'm not exactly sure how the law works there, but,

00:40:43.160 um, but that's a hell of an assumption that you're making. And I don't know how you could

00:40:48.240 possibly make it. You could say, well, I can't imagine why else he'd be in a construction site.

00:40:53.720 Okay, fine. That might be why he's there, but that's, that's, you see, I understand that's just

00:40:58.640 your assumption. There are other conceivable reasons why a person might be in a construction

00:41:04.860 site. Um, but regardless, I mean, he's dead now, so we can't ask him. All we have are the bare facts.

00:41:13.160 As far as we know, as far as we know, as far as what we can prove, maybe I should put it this way.

00:41:17.640 As far as what we can prove is that Arbery went into a construction site, briefly looked around

00:41:22.420 and left. That's what we have. Anything else that you're going to assume about his, uh, his motivations

00:41:28.040 is just that, an assumption. And the problem is if you're going to do that,

00:41:33.440 then you can't complain when people do it with McMichaels.

00:41:35.880 If you're going to create this whole narrative of assumptions and motivations and intent on Arbery's

00:41:42.520 case, for Arbery, then what about, would people do the same with the McMichaels and say, oh, 0.92

00:41:46.980 they were racist out looking for a black person to shoot? I don't believe that they were. That's not, 0.91

00:41:51.720 I've, I've said the whole time. I mean, I, I think that they're wrong in what they did.

00:41:55.680 I think it was more that they were just trying to be the heroes. They were trying to be vigilantes.

00:41:58.740 Um, and, uh, they, they were thinking they were like an, an action movie or something that that's,

00:42:03.740 that's what I take from that. Um, so I'm not, I'm not in, in, uh, you know, uh, assuming racist

00:42:10.380 motivations, but I'm also not assuming motivations on Arbery's part either. Uh, I'm, I'm just trying

00:42:14.960 to look at what actually happened and what we can prove. Now, um, also the, the property owner,

00:42:23.680 Larry English says that nothing was ever stolen from the property and he never filed any police

00:42:29.540 report for any reason. That's what he says. Now I've seen a lot of people, defenders of the

00:42:33.920 McMichaels on Twitter and on social media, making all kinds of claims about how things were stolen

00:42:38.920 and there was copper wires stolen and this and that. Uh, there were all, there was all these

00:42:43.000 break-ins. Okay. Well, the guy who owns the property said that nothing was ever stolen.

00:42:48.480 So that seems rather significant, doesn't it? I don't know. How can we just ignore that?

00:42:56.360 Was anything stolen? Let's ask the guy who owns the property. He said, no, he never filed a police

00:43:00.360 report. There was no break-ins. Uh, there was, there was no theft or robbery from the place.

00:43:04.200 That's what he said. His words. Um, if the guy is saying nothing was stolen, it's reasonable to

00:43:11.180 conclude that Arbery didn't steal anything. And as this was a construction site, not an occupied

00:43:17.040 residence, what you have then at most, it seems like is trespassing, which I don't think is a

00:43:22.140 felony. Now you claim again, he had the intent to steal, but again, how do you know that you can

00:43:28.560 assume it? You can guess it. You can theorize about it. You cannot state it as a fact. And here's what

00:43:33.020 I know for sure. A civilian is not entitled to chase somebody down with guns because of what, uh,

00:43:39.440 that civilian thinks another person might have intended to do, but didn't do. And that's really

00:43:45.920 what this comes down to, John. Everything else aside for a moment. Okay. Because I don't know

00:43:50.480 if Arbery was a burglar or not. Uh, maybe he was, I mean, I'd be perfectly willing to believe that he

00:43:56.520 was, I don't know anything about him. He could be a burglar. Sure. I don't know. Um, I mean the,

00:44:02.220 the, the way some people that the whole idea that he was jogging, I also don't find that outlandish.

00:44:07.940 I don't know. There are some people acting like that's a totally outlandish claim. He was jogging.

00:44:11.920 Maybe he wasn't, but what's, why is that weird? It's the middle of the day. A guy's out in the

00:44:16.860 street jogging. I don't see anything inherently absurd about that claim. Just like it's not absurd

00:44:22.760 that he was a burglar, a burglar either. I mean, a person could be either one of those things.

00:44:27.400 I think in both cases that there's some weirdness that needs to be explained.

00:44:32.940 Like, yeah, you could say, well, if he was jogging, then why'd he stop at a construction site? Why

00:44:36.720 wasn't he wearing jogging clothes? Uh, I mean, it's hard to tell what he's wearing, honestly,

00:44:40.820 but okay, those are questions. But then also questions. If he was a burglar, why didn't he

00:44:44.500 steal anything? Um, what was he doing out on foot miles from the house in the middle of the day

00:44:49.480 as a burglar? It just, that doesn't necessarily seem like what a burglar would do usually. So I

00:44:55.100 don't know. There are questions either way, but who knows? Um, so put it, putting all that aside for a

00:45:01.920 minute because we, because we don't know what it, what his intention was. What we do know is that the

00:45:07.260 video doesn't show Arbery stealing anything. Um, we know that there was only one reported burglary

00:45:13.480 in the area seven weeks earlier. Um, we know that, that the property owner says, no, nothing was

00:45:20.420 stolen. All of that, it seems, it would seem cuts against the idea that Arbery was a burglar.

00:45:26.420 But again, putting that to the side, you as a civilian do not have the authority to chase somebody

00:45:31.540 down and confront them in the street while brandishing a weapon to question them about a

00:45:36.260 crime you think they committed. And yes, holding a weapon and telling them to stop and come talk to

00:45:40.700 you and answer a question is brandishing according to the law. Uh, you say it was self-defense that

00:45:47.120 they shot him. I don't think so. Um, it can't be self-defense if you initiate the altercation.

00:45:53.320 Brandishing a weapon at someone in the middle of the street, not in self-defense initially, but because

00:45:58.520 you think they look suspicious and you want to talk to them, that is you initiating an altercation

00:46:04.080 because the other guy has every right and every reason to assume you mean him harm, whether he's

00:46:08.740 a burglar or not. So Arbery defended himself. So it would be like if you punched, it'd be like if I

00:46:15.880 punched you and then you punch me, then I punch you back. And on, on, on, on my second punch, you die. 1.00

00:46:23.000 I can't claim self-defense. I can't say that, well, I was, I was responding to your punch. I was,

00:46:27.980 but I initiated the first punch. The whole punching altercation was initiated by me. And so I don't

00:46:34.600 get to hide behind self-defense. I'm the aggressor. In this case, pulling a gun on someone

00:46:41.580 is the first punch. You are the aggressor. Yes, it's an open carry state. That doesn't mean that

00:46:48.260 you can just grab your gun, hold it in your hand and go, and go around demanding that people come

00:46:52.360 talk to you. You know, not to mention that stopping your truck in the middle of the street. You got

00:46:57.380 one guy up with a gun in his hand in the truck bed. You got another guy gunning his hand on the street

00:47:01.780 trying to, trying to head Arbery off at the pass. As a clear case of brandishing, yes, open carry does

00:47:08.160 not mean you can brandish weapons at people. And I think that's a really important point we should

00:47:12.360 be making as gun rights supporters. We should be saying this is not what we, as gun rights supporters,

00:47:17.860 that is, this is not what we're talking about. Okay. We, we, we don't believe that, that, that

00:47:23.760 people who own guns, you know, that should give them the power and the right to walk around holding

00:47:28.060 the guns and, and, and, and demanding people come talk to them and, uh, you know, stopping people in

00:47:32.220 the middle of the street, parking our car in the middle of the street and pulling our guns out to go

00:47:36.680 talk to a person. As gun rights supporters, we need to be saying, no, no, that's, that's, that's not what

00:47:41.160 we're talking about. That's not what gun owners do. That's not what responsible gun owners do.

00:47:45.180 So to me, this is simple, John, best case for the McMichaels is that Arbery was a trespasser and

00:47:51.100 maybe that there's no evidence of it right now, maybe guilty of stealing a tool or some nails or,

00:47:56.880 you know, I don't know what he'd be stealing. Um, no evidence of that, but, but let's just say best

00:48:01.840 case for them that he did do that. None of that comes close to justifying three guys grabbing guns

00:48:08.820 and chasing him down the street. Um, you know, if he had killed, if something really sinister

00:48:15.760 happened in that construction site, like he had killed someone or, or, you know, attacked or

00:48:19.500 assaulted someone and he was running away, that would totally change the complexion of this case,

00:48:23.600 but there's no evidence of that. No one suggested it. I mean, so we can assume that's not the case.

00:48:28.660 And, um, what you're left with is, uh, is, is, you know, uh, you're left with, you're left with at best

00:48:36.280 three armed men chasing a guy down the street because he was on a construction site. Uh, you

00:48:41.080 know, I I'm sorry. I just, that, that is a massive overreaction. And I doubt that you, John would ever

00:48:49.460 respond that way. I mean, if you, if you saw someone poking around a construction site, would

00:48:55.480 you, would you call your son? Would you grab your shotgun and tell your son to come with you? Hey,

00:48:59.060 get the gun and go chase the guy down. Would you? Cause he was in a construction site for a few minutes.

00:49:03.860 I don't think you would.

00:49:08.920 All right, let's, uh, but we'll, we'll leave it there. Um, I'm open to more information,

00:49:12.440 you know, if, if, if, if more information comes out that completely changes, uh, my perspective

00:49:16.820 on this, then I'll, I'll say so. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not against changing my mind,

00:49:20.300 but I haven't seen anything yet that would make me do that. We'll cut it off there. Thanks

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The Matt Walsh Show - May 12, 2020

Ep. 485 - Girls Sue To Keep Boys Off Girls' Sports Teams. Judge Rigs The Case

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