The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 486 - The Curve Is Flattened But The Goalposts Have Moved

00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Wall Show, you know, the goalposts have shifted in a massive way.

00:00:04.500 Originally, we were told that we were locking down to flatten the curve, right? That's what

00:00:08.540 the phrase was. Now, it seems they want us to stay inside until, you know, nobody is dying

00:00:14.060 from COVID-19 anymore, which means we could be locked inside forever. So we'll talk about that.

00:00:19.700 Also, five headlines, including The Price is Right, raising money for baby butchers. And

00:00:24.600 in our daily cancellation, we will cancel a New York Times writer who thinks that the sport of

00:00:29.640 running somehow discriminates against black people. Yes, that is the claim. And we will 1.00

00:00:36.200 address that, all of that on the way. But starting with this, a recent CNN headline claims that 68%

00:00:44.140 of Americans say a vaccine is needed before returning to normal life. That was the direct

00:00:50.740 quote from the CNN headline, which I think has since been taken down because it is, as expected,

00:00:57.140 basically fake news. The actual data shows that 68% of Americans believe a vaccine is, quote,

00:01:03.520 very important. It's a very important factor when they, quote, think about their willingness to

00:01:09.100 return to normal activities. So that's what the survey said from Gallup. And the way that CNN

00:01:15.460 interpreted it and spread it around is that 68% of Americans say a vaccine is needed before they'll go

00:01:22.700 back to their normal life. There is obviously a clear and significant difference between

00:01:27.000 very important factor and needed. Okay, those are two different things. Even so, it's troubling.

00:01:37.320 It's troubling because it does show that many Americans seem to be at least hoping that maybe

00:01:43.700 they can wait until there's a vaccine before they get back to living their lives. And even more so,

00:01:49.180 it shows us what the media wants us to think we think. Okay, so what we can take from this headline

00:01:56.000 is not that nearly 70% of Americans think a vaccine is absolutely necessary, but that CNN

00:02:01.740 thinks we should think that a vaccine is absolutely necessary before we get back to our normal lives.

00:02:07.680 So you notice the massive shift that has occurred, and not just in polls or in CNN headlines.

00:02:14.380 We were originally told that we need to shut down for about two weeks. 15 days to slow the spread was

00:02:21.040 the slogan. But the interesting thing about 15 days to slow the spread is the part where it says

00:02:26.780 15 days, and also to slow the spread, okay? It is well past 15 days now. It's well past 30 days now.

00:02:35.760 It's past 45 days. I mean, we are going on multiples of 15. And also, the spread has been slowed.

00:02:44.100 Flatten the curve was the other motto. And we've done that too. The only places in America that

00:02:50.680 haven't flattened the curve are the places where there was never a curve to flatten.

00:02:55.220 Which is the case in many states, by the way. Yet, much of the country is still locked down.

00:03:02.460 And the states that open are still condemned as being havens of ignorant, reckless,

00:03:07.680 redneck grandma killers. So what happened? What happened? Well, the goalposts have moved. 0.67

00:03:15.680 Not just moved. They've been uprooted and placed in an entirely different stadium somewhere across

00:03:21.000 the town, and nobody knows where. Because now we're hearing that the curve must be, this is according

00:03:26.140 to a Times article, the way they put it. They said we have to squash the curve. Not flatten it,

00:03:32.440 squash it. California is now going to remain closed until, and this is what the governor of California

00:03:39.500 says, Newsom, until there are zero COVID-19 deaths for two weeks. Zero for two weeks.

00:03:46.300 Dr. Fauci was testifying in front of a Senate hearing yesterday, and he said that we should

00:03:52.240 be wary of opening schools because children might not be, quote, completely immune to the effects of

00:03:58.720 the virus. So we've gone from flatten the curve, slow the spread, to complete immunity is what we

00:04:06.720 should be looking for. And if we don't have that, then we need to be careful about opening things up.

00:04:10.940 We're also told by the media and public health officials that reopening cannot begin until we

00:04:16.320 have mass testing. Testing and tracing is the buzz phrase. Overall, the objective has shifted from

00:04:23.780 flatten the curve and slow the spread, both goals accomplished, to a vaguer idea of remaining

00:04:30.620 locked away until we have some kind of guarantee of safety or immunity. Now, I think a few notes of

00:04:40.780 sanity are needed here. A few notes of sanity should be interjected into all of this madness.

00:04:48.240 Number one, and let's just be very clear about this. We cannot wait for a vaccine. Can't do it.

00:04:59.220 There may never be one, first of all. There's no guarantee that there will be a vaccine.

00:05:06.580 I'm not a medical expert myself. I can't tell you that I'm an expert in how vaccines work, but I do

00:05:12.840 know this. There are a lot of diseases and viruses out there for which there is no vaccine. So you

00:05:18.400 never have any guarantee on that. Even if there is a vaccine, it could be years away. We cannot wait

00:05:24.980 that long. Our society will be in ruins if we try to keep it shut down for that long. And the number

00:05:30.740 of dead from homelessness, starvation, suicide, drug overdoses, et cetera, will far, far exceed even

00:05:36.440 the most dire and also false coronavirus death predictions. Besides, people are not going to

00:05:43.480 comply. Many people are already not complying. The idea that we should, much less that we can,

00:05:50.220 keep hundreds of millions of Americans under mass house arrest for years is simply madness.

00:05:57.780 And the fact that I have to explain this, that anyone has to explain it, is madness.

00:06:02.660 So the Americans out there, whatever percentage they might represent, and I don't know what that

00:06:08.100 percentage is. It should be zero. So if it's anything above zero, that's a problem.

00:06:12.900 The percentage of Americans who are dreaming of a day when they can emerge from their homes under the

00:06:18.040 protection of a vaccine might as well push that thought from their minds. If you're in that group,

00:06:25.080 you just forget about it. It ain't going to happen. You are going to have to get back to your life

00:06:30.440 before then. Get used to it. You are going to have to get back to your life when the disease is out

00:06:36.440 there and there is no vaccine for it. Get used to it. It's going to happen. Or else, you're not

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00:08:42.100 for a vaccine. Just can't do it. Second point. Testing and tracing is not the holy grail that

00:08:51.120 it's being made out to be. It is not realistic to expect that tests will be widely available to 330

00:09:00.300 million people anytime soon. And even if they were available, so what? I mean, let's say that every

00:09:08.240 person in the country takes a test tomorrow. Great. What about next week? What about the week

00:09:14.340 after? Next month? If a negative test is supposed to grant me permission to go about my day and

00:09:19.820 participate in society, how long does that permission last? I mean, are we going to have to

00:09:26.540 take tests every single day? Wouldn't that require hundreds of billions of tests to be available? Not to

00:09:32.700 mention the capacity to distribute and process all of those tests. Now, I'm not saying that tests are

00:09:39.500 unimportant or that we shouldn't have them or anything like that. But there's a certain sort

00:09:46.740 of fantastical ambiguity about the testing rhetoric that troubles me. With people acting like, well,

00:09:53.200 this is the, here we go, here's the magical switch that we can flip. And if we could just get the tests

00:09:59.140 going and, and, and, and wide testing, well, then we can get back to our lives. Um, it, it sort of

00:10:06.180 seems that our elected officials really do want daily tests for everyone forever, but who knows if

00:10:12.080 that's what they want? Because all we've ever gotten from these people, from elected officials is sort of

00:10:16.760 scenes. I mean, we, we don't know exactly what they have in mind or, or what they think we need in order

00:10:22.620 to get back to our lives because there's been almost no clarity from anyone from the top down to include

00:10:30.760 president Trump, especially him. I mean, you look, you look at president Trump, it's the way he seems to

00:10:37.860 feel about the lockdowns on Twitter is very different from president Trump anywhere else. You got Twitter

00:10:43.480 Trump and then Trump at a press conference or Trump in real life. Twitter Trump has been against the lockdowns

00:10:48.300 this whole time. Press conference. Trump is all on board for them. I mean, Twitter Trump was, was,

00:10:54.140 was shouting on Twitter all caps weeks ago, liberate, liberate the States. We have to liberate them.

00:11:00.200 And then press conference Trump the next day, uh, said that he disagreed with Georgia opening up.

00:11:07.200 Okay. So there's been just almost no clarity from anyone and not just no clarity, but

00:11:14.240 contradicting themselves on a day-to-day basis.

00:11:20.520 But we're supposed to continue sitting around twiddling our thumbs, putting everything on hold

00:11:25.700 in our whole lives until we're told otherwise, until they figure out what the hell they're doing.

00:11:30.260 It cannot continue this way. Third point, this is very important.

00:11:34.680 There will always be coronavirus deaths, probably even with a vaccine. And this stands to reason

00:11:47.020 because there are always flu deaths and quite a lot of them. In fact, even with a vaccine,

00:11:52.220 you know, tens of thousands of people might die from this virus every year forever. That might well be

00:12:03.080 the case. We have to learn to live with that reality. Just as we live with the reality of so

00:12:11.520 many other diseases, not to mention all the other fatal calamities that threaten us every single day

00:12:16.340 of our lives. Every single day you wake up and walk out of your house, even if you don't walk out of

00:12:22.440 your house, no matter what you do, there are a million things that could kill you. Some of them

00:12:28.680 are more likely than others. And the really scary thing is, it is a certainty that one of those things

00:12:37.280 will eventually kill you. You will die. Of all the potential things that could kill you, one day, and it

00:12:44.680 could be today, it could be tomorrow, it could be before I'm done saying this sentence, one of those things

00:12:51.680 will kill you. You will die. Not just you, everyone you know is going to die. Everyone you've ever

00:12:59.240 known, they're all going to die. The earth itself is going to die. Okay? Now, again, I mean, these are

00:13:07.280 points that shouldn't need to be made, but I think they do. Because the way some people are talking about

00:13:12.820 this virus and the way they're approaching it, it's as if they think that if we can just hide away,

00:13:19.400 sacrifice whatever we need to sacrifice, even if it's the entire economy, 30 million jobs,

00:13:23.620 whatever, we will get to a point where we're safe, where we're completely safe, and then we can go

00:13:29.740 about our lives. Like we're immortal or something. No, I mean, that's just not the case.

00:13:38.900 And that doesn't mean, you know, the reality that we're mortal and we're all going to die of something.

00:13:44.200 That doesn't mean that we should be suicidal. It doesn't mean that we should be nihilistic.

00:13:47.460 It doesn't mean that we should take a position of not caring about our lives or not trying to

00:13:51.420 protect our lives or the lives of our loved ones. Quite the opposite. I think it's all the more

00:13:55.960 reason to live our lives with joy and vigor and courage because we're only going to be here for

00:14:02.200 a short time. You know, we may be able to momentarily extend our stay on earth by hiding under our beds

00:14:09.680 indefinitely, but then what kind of life would that even be? Eventually, we have to confront the risks.

00:14:16.180 We have to accept them. We have to take whatever reasonable precautions we're comfortable with

00:14:20.180 and get back to living.

00:14:24.280 That's the only choice we have.

00:14:26.500 And we just have to accept that. And it seems like we are not willing to accept that reality.

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00:16:31.560 headlines. Number one, if you are a Price is Right fan, and I've always been more of a Jeopardy and

00:16:37.920 Wheel of Fortune person myself, but if you are a Price is Right fan, you may want to reconsider ever

00:16:43.580 watching the show again. And I'm not one for boycotts normally, but I think donating money,

00:16:49.580 a company donating money to mass murderers is about as good a reason to boycott as you're

00:16:56.080 ever going to find. The Price is Right this past Monday aired a primetime special called

00:17:01.660 The Price is Right at Night, and RuPaul the Drag Queen was there for some reason, raising money for

00:17:09.100 Planned Parenthood. Apparently the show pledged to match all cumulative prize winnings for the entire

00:17:16.980 episode and then donate all that to Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood is an organization,

00:17:21.860 I remind you, that kills 300,000 children every single year, more than 300,000 children every year.

00:17:27.580 And we should also note that Planned Parenthood already rakes in over a billion dollars a year.

00:17:34.460 Okay, from the money they get from the abortions, they make hundreds of millions on abortions,

00:17:39.280 and then also they get $500 million a year from the government, and still do. Because that's

00:17:46.320 something that our supposed pro-life Republicans never did anything about when they had the chance

00:17:50.700 to. So not only do they kill children, but if somehow that's not good enough reason to refrain

00:17:56.940 from making them the charity that you, the charity beneficiary for your show, they also are a very rich

00:18:03.100 organization, and they're not hurting for cash at all. There are many organizations out there that are

00:18:07.740 hurting for cash, and that also don't make a billion dollars a year, and don't make $500 million a

00:18:13.220 year from the government, and that also, oh yeah, don't kill kids. I mean, believe it or not, there

00:18:17.700 are organizations out there that need money, that don't get money from the government, and that rather

00:18:21.820 than killing kids, actually feed kids, and clothe kids, and provide services to kids. How about one of

00:18:30.460 those instead? Number two, here's another massive, massive scandal that will get no attention whatsoever

00:18:41.000 from the national media. According to a report from the local ABC affiliate in Harrisburg,

00:18:46.460 the Pennsylvania health secretary's mother was pulled out of a nursing home and put in a hotel. 0.87

00:18:54.580 Now, remember, Pennsylvania sent COVID patients into nursing homes, just like New York, New Jersey,

00:19:02.560 California, other states. On a mandate, they sent these infected people, not people who'd recovered.

00:19:12.440 In New York, it was they had to be stable. So as long as the coronavirus patient is stable,

00:19:17.180 then you can send them to the nursing home. That doesn't mean recovered, and that doesn't mean not

00:19:22.300 contagious. That just means they're not on their deathbed yet or anymore. And so Pennsylvania did

00:19:31.920 that too. Sent the people in nursing homes, but at least in the case of the health secretary's mother,

00:19:42.780 she was protected. So it shows us government officials knew what the result would be,

00:19:48.420 knew what would happen. So they protected their own loved ones while leaving the rest to die.

00:19:54.200 And many of them did die. In fact, in Pennsylvania, Pennsylvania has 4,000 COVID deaths,

00:20:00.340 70% of them. And this number keeps going up because we talked about this, I don't know,

00:20:05.500 yesterday or a few days ago. And the number wasn't 70% then. So now what they're telling us is that 70%

00:20:14.460 of deaths in Pennsylvania are from nursing homes. That leaves, if you're doing the math, that leaves

00:20:20.280 around 1,000 in a state of 13 million who died outside of nursing homes, which would be 0.008%

00:20:28.340 of the population. But the state just extended their lockdowns into June. 0.008% of the non-nursing

00:20:39.240 home population in Pennsylvania has died. And they extended the lockdown into June.

00:20:47.940 Number three, this isn't really a headline, but it is news. I want to show you this. This is from

00:20:51.860 Avik Roy. He's a Forbes editor. And he got this data from the CDC. I want you to take a look. Here's

00:20:57.900 a table showing COVID-19 deaths by age group. We talked about the nursing home population. Well,

00:21:03.960 it's not just nursing homes. Here are how many died in each group per million people. And this is for

00:21:10.340 the United States. So you can see there, under 25, your chance of dying from it is literally one in a

00:21:16.120 million. Under 45, it's 17 in a million. And then as you get into the 65 and over, and this doesn't

00:21:26.220 take into account, by the way, pre-existing conditions. So if you're 45 and under, generally

00:21:34.700 speaking, your chances of dying are 17 in a million. But if we were to narrow that down,

00:21:40.560 if you're 45 and under and healthy, then it's even less than 17 in a million. But then you look,

00:21:47.440 and as we get into 65 and over, then 75 and over, especially, and then most of the vast,

00:21:54.460 vast majority of deaths are 85 and over. And you look at the bar graph, you compare the bar for 85

00:22:00.220 and over to the bar for 45 and under or 25 and under. So we shut down our whole society for a

00:22:06.500 disease that almost exclusively targets, kills people who are 75 and over or 85 and over, which

00:22:14.320 is just incredible. Now, here's more. I want to show you this too. This is also from Roy.

00:22:18.580 Again, CDC information. And it's a map that shows the percentage of deaths from nursing homes in each

00:22:27.500 state. So take a look. And we've been covering this on the show extensively. But you see there,

00:22:32.440 you look around at these states, 50%, 60%, a lot of 50s and 60%, 70%, 80%. I mean, this is truly the

00:22:41.880 nursing home disease. We could rename the coronavirus, the nursing home disease,

00:22:46.060 NHD, NHD-19. Because that's what it is. You take out the nursing home deaths and the deaths of people

00:22:55.540 75 and over. So like the nursing home set, whether they're in nursing homes or not,

00:23:00.540 the nursing home demographic, you take that out and you have a disease that's 0.95

00:23:05.280 about as deadly as a bad flu. And for some demographics, a lot less deadly than a bad flu.

00:23:10.860 I mean, a lot more people who are 24 and under, especially, and a lot more kids especially,

00:23:15.760 have died of the flu than COVID-19. Number four, the singer Brian Adams. Well, in fact,

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00:24:38.100 that's Expert Ownership. Go check it out now. Okay. Number four, the singer Brian Adams got himself

00:24:46.100 into trouble. It's caused controversy because he blamed coronavirus on, quote, bat-eating bastards.

00:24:52.080 That's what he said in an Instagram post. There's been a lot of consternation over this. He says,

00:24:56.320 tonight was supposed to be the beginning of a tendency of gigs, but thanks to some effing,

00:25:00.760 bat-eating, wet-market, animal-selling, virus-making, greedy bastards. The whole world is now on hold,

00:25:06.960 not to mention the thousands that suffered or died from this virus. My message to them, other than

00:25:11.660 thanks an effing lot, is go vegan. People are very upset about this. I don't see the problem.

00:25:19.780 I mean, it seems to be a lot of accuracy there. I mean, you know what? And you also have to allow

00:25:27.960 people. I know that this is, it's salty language and, you know, it's not, who cares? I think you 0.66

00:25:33.900 have to allow people to be angry. Okay. And the fact is that this virus did come from China

00:25:41.060 and it seems pretty obvious that there was a, you know, a lab involved in there somewhere.

00:25:51.440 Also, maybe the wet markets. I mean, people are going to be angry and you have to allow people to

00:25:56.060 be angry. This is not racism. This is just people are pissed off. And yes, they're mad at China.

00:26:04.120 They should be. And that's okay. We're allowed to be.

00:26:09.500 Number five, a nice segue here. Perhaps this, perhaps the Brian Adams post will be discussed

00:26:13.620 in an upcoming NBC special. Reading from Deadline, it says, as Asians and Asian Americans continue to 0.97

00:26:19.080 be the target of harassment during the coronavirus pandemic, NBC Asian America, an arm of NBC News,

00:26:24.500 will host a virtual town hall titled United Against Hate on May 13th, which is, what is that today?

00:26:30.940 Oh, it's today. You can watch it. With guest appearances from comedian Margaret Cho, the town

00:26:37.560 hall will examine the rise of racism against Asian Americans during the pandemic and what can be done

00:26:41.420 on a legislative nonprofit and individual level. That's what NBC News is focused on. Okay. We got this

00:26:47.720 pandemic, thousands dying, economy destroyed. What we're focused on, though, is people saying mean

00:26:56.860 things about Asians. That's the important stuff. And that's the real crisis here, right? We can all 1.00

00:27:03.820 agree. Yeah. Let's go to our daily cancellation. And for today's daily cancellation, we are canceling

00:27:10.200 the writer of this editorial in the New York Times titled, Jogging Has Always Excluded Black People.

00:27:16.540 Not a parody. That's the real, real title, real editorial was written with a straight face,

00:27:25.140 presumably. The piece written by Natalia Melman Petrezala ties the Ahmaud Arbery case to a general

00:27:34.660 epidemic of discrimination against black joggers and runners, alleging that somehow black people are

00:27:41.380 excluded from the activity of jogging. That's what she says. So she writes, in part, this disparity

00:27:48.580 should come as no surprise. Running has been a pastime marketed primarily to white people ever

00:27:54.000 since the jogging craze was born in the lily-white Oregon track and field world of the late 1960s.

00:27:59.900 Black people have not only been excluded from the sport, one survey by Running USA found under 10% of

00:28:04.580 frequent runners identify as African American. They've also been relentlessly depicted as a threat to

00:28:09.100 legitimate white joggers. And it goes on from there and it ends on this note, Mr. Arbery's death

00:28:15.880 and the ensuing outcry is in some ways the latest data point in the sick mashup of structural racism,

00:28:21.420 gun violence, and vigilantism that becomes a hallmark of American life. But it's also an example of the

00:28:27.620 glaring whiteness of recreational running, a hobby that 47 million Americans embrace in part

00:28:32.420 because of its enticing illusion of universalism, but that has never been and still is far from an

00:28:38.200 equal opportunity endeavor. So she just put them all, she got it all in there, structural racism,

00:28:43.620 gun violence. I'm surprised she didn't tie climate change into it. I'm sure somebody has done that by

00:28:50.120 now, tied the Arbery case to climate change. I guarantee you someone's done it. If I looked it up, 0.88

00:28:54.040 I can find it, but I won't because I have enough things to be annoyed about right now. Okay. I don't

00:29:01.680 think I need to spend a lot of time addressing this. First of all, jogging or running, one of the

00:29:08.360 great things about it is that it can't exclude anybody. So if, if one in 10 of joggers are black,

00:29:16.820 what does that tell us? It just tells us that black people generally don't like to jog. I mean,

00:29:22.740 that's, that's what that stat tells us because if they wanted to jog, they could, I mean,

00:29:28.080 literally nothing can stop them unless you don't have legs. So as long as you have legs,

00:29:32.780 you can jog. And in fact, even if you don't have legs, there are people that figure out

00:29:35.700 workarounds there. So basically you can jog almost no matter what. Um, so I'm not sure if white people 0.99

00:29:42.740 got together and decided they wanted to exclude black people from jogging, I'm not sure how they

00:29:47.880 would even conceivably do it. If that was in a project they wanted to take on second point.

00:29:55.700 And this is the obvious one. Well, this is all obvious, but black track athletes,

00:30:01.720 not only do black people run, but they dominate all of the running events everywhere. They dominate

00:30:09.740 the Olympics. They dominate the track and field circuit in America. I ran track as a, when I was

00:30:14.980 in high school, I was by no, it was by no means a white sport. I can tell you that right now.

00:30:18.560 It was a pretty healthy mix of, of white and black and other races as well. Um, black people

00:30:23.620 certainly were not underrepresented in the sport of running in my experience. Third point. Well,

00:30:31.400 there is no third point. This is just stupid. I don't, I don't even have the energy to talk about

00:30:35.340 it. I mean, give me a break. Just give me a break with this stupidity. You're canceled. Natalia, 0.92

00:30:40.580 Melman, Petresla, you are canceled. You are excluded from ever writing anything again.

00:30:47.600 Though you can still jog. I'll give you that because like I said, nobody could possibly stop

00:30:52.820 you if you want to. The only thing stopping people from going for a jog is that most, not just black 1.00

00:30:58.100 people, most people in general don't like to jog. It's, it's, it's, uh, most people, when they think

00:31:03.440 about what's a fun thing to do, I got a, I got 30 minutes to kill. What do I want to do with the

00:31:07.740 time? Most people aren't saying, let me go run. That's like the last thing anybody wants to do

00:31:12.140 for most people. Now I actually enjoy running myself, but I realize I'm kind of a weirdo.

00:31:16.440 It's a weird thing. You've got, you got some time to kill. There are so many fun things you could do.

00:31:21.640 Who says to themselves, let me go put on some shoes and go run down the street.

00:31:25.960 Only a freak would like me. Most people say, let me lounge on the couch. Okay. Let me grab a beer. I mean,

00:31:32.840 that's a much more normal thing to do and probably in the long run, better for your knees.

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00:32:31.720 Okay. I want to get to a few of these emails. I've been kind of lax on reading emails recently.

00:32:40.000 Let's see. This is from Ben says, hi, Matt. And if you become a Daily Wire member, you also get

00:32:44.940 to send messages to this show through the mailbag. So that's the best perk of all. You don't have to

00:32:51.540 be an All Access member for that. You can just be a regular member. From Ben says, hi, Matt. What is

00:32:57.460 your take on the mask issue? Some people are saying they'll refuse to wear them. Others are saying that

00:33:02.480 it's our responsibility to wear them. Do you think wearing a mask is caving into tyranny? Where do you

00:33:07.580 stand on this? Yeah, Ben, you know, I'm not dogmatic on the mask thing. I'm just not. I don't really

00:33:12.320 have, I guess I don't have an official mask stance as far as this goes. I wear a mask

00:33:21.240 whenever I go to the store around here because I don't have a choice because every single store in

00:33:28.080 my area requires it. So I don't, so I wear one. Um, and, and the first thing I'll say about that

00:33:36.700 is I'm, I have always been a big believer in and defender of the rights of private businesses to

00:33:43.640 make their own rules and to set the terms for engagement. Um, no shirt, no, no shirt,

00:33:49.340 no shoes, you know, if that's their rule. So that's it. You don't have to agree with it.

00:33:54.260 If you don't agree with it, you don't have to go. And so if private businesses want to have a rule

00:33:58.200 saying you have to have a mask to come in, I respect that. And I mean, what else am I going

00:34:02.540 to do? Am I going to charge in there without a mask? I refuse. And then I'll just get carried

00:34:07.300 out by security. Nothing is accomplished by that whatsoever. They have every right to make the

00:34:11.300 rules. I don't have a right to go into, you know, Safeway without a mask on. That's not a right

00:34:15.960 that I have. I have a right to go and buy stuff from Safeway. If I follow the rules,

00:34:19.180 that Safeway or whatever other grocery store, uh, sets up. And so I respect that. Now you could

00:34:24.920 point out that many stores are requiring masks because they're forced to require them by the

00:34:29.560 government. I'm not a fan of that. I would like to get to a point where, um, and I would like for

00:34:34.640 that point to be right now. In fact, I would like for that point to have arrived a long time ago

00:34:37.800 where people just make their own decisions and businesses make their own decisions about how

00:34:41.340 they're going to handle this. Most people choose to be responsible anyway, let businesses decide if

00:34:46.480 they want to require masks or not. The thing is, uh, many businesses will, would require it and will

00:34:54.120 require it. I think whether the government says so or not, but as it stands right now,

00:34:59.840 even though businesses are forced to require it, the fact is they still require it. The businesses do.

00:35:04.280 And so I'll wear one, um, because the other option would be, like I said, to charge in their maskless

00:35:11.140 just so I can get carried out by security to make a point. I'm not sure exactly what the point would

00:35:15.180 be or to not go to any stores, but I want to go to the store and I need to. And also that part of my

00:35:19.320 whole point, I don't want to be locked in my house. I want to get out. And so if this is part of what I

00:35:22.840 need to do, I will do it. I just want to get out. And I want, if I want to go to the freaking store,

00:35:26.540 I'm going to go. And I've been doing that this whole time. Um, so, you know, that's,

00:35:33.260 that's basically how I feel about the masks. I, I think that, um, I don't wear one unless I'm forced

00:35:40.780 to. I've already said about masks to wear, like I see people driving down the street and masks,

00:35:46.880 wearing them in the car. I think that's stupid. It's kind of crazy. If you want to do it, it's your

00:35:52.420 right. Go ahead. Okay, fine. Um, I think walking down the street in a mask is crazy.

00:35:58.580 And if the government tries to require that, and maybe in some places they are requiring it,

00:36:02.580 that is also crazy. Um, not only crazy, but you know, I see people jogging in masks.

00:36:08.880 Not only is that unnecessary, completely unnecessary, but I have to imagine it's pretty unhealthy because

00:36:17.280 it restricts the flow of oxygen. You know, you're, you're breathing heavily. You're, you're,

00:36:23.140 you're breathing in a lot of your own fumes as you're running down. And as it gets hotter now,

00:36:27.280 and it's humid, humid. I mean, think about all the germs and everything. You've got your own sweat and

00:36:32.120 saliva and breath just piling up in this mask while you're jogging down the street in 85 degree

00:36:37.640 temperature. That does not seem at all good for you. That seems much less sanitary, uh, much worse for

00:36:45.080 your lungs than not wearing the mask at all. So I would recommend that people not do that. But in

00:36:51.240 terms of wearing it at the store, for me, it just comes down to does the store required or not? If

00:36:57.300 they do, that's their right. I'll respect it. Uh, and I also think that, you know, here's the other

00:37:01.760 thing. Um, I want to get the economy going again. I want businesses to open up again. I want people to

00:37:10.460 start getting hired. I want all these things to happen. Well, a lot of businesses, regardless of

00:37:15.940 what the government says, I think a lot of businesses are going to require the masks because

00:37:20.240 they're worried about liability. And, and, you know, we just know what's going to happen. Like

00:37:25.300 eventually things are going to open up. Somebody's going to get sick and they're going to trace that

00:37:30.360 sickness back to Walmart or somewhere. And they're going to try to sue Walmart for $50 million or

00:37:34.860 whatever it is. Uh, that's going to happen. And so it shouldn't happen. I mean, that's the idea that

00:37:41.240 you could sue a company because you got a virus while you were there is dumb, but it will happen

00:37:46.520 in our litigious society. So businesses are going to want to take measures to protect themselves

00:37:51.700 against liability so they can say, yeah, well, we did what we could. And if businesses have to do

00:37:57.560 that in order to open up, in order to protect themselves from being bankrupted by lawsuits,

00:38:01.980 then I respect that too. All right, let's go to Joe says, uh, Matt, I appreciated your analysis of

00:38:10.400 the Takashi 69 Instagram video. I also love your music reviews in general. I'm sure you know this

00:38:15.740 since he's your favorite artist, but Takashi has a new song out. His first song since getting out of

00:38:20.400 prison. It's called Gooba. I would love to see slash listen to your review of this masterpiece.

00:38:25.640 Well, thanks Joe. Um, and although I am a huge fan of the musical artist Takashi 69, I have,

00:38:30.900 I had not yet had the pleasure of, of encountering, uh, the Gooba song that you're referring to.

00:38:36.720 I did go and search the video on YouTube at your behest thinking that I would offer my review of it,

00:38:43.540 but you forgot to mention that I would be fired if I played even five seconds of that video on this

00:38:49.180 show. So I'm not going to do that way too explicit for a family show. I couldn't possibly get away with

00:38:53.820 it, but I am always up for offering my musical reviews of, uh, of videos and things. So if you

00:38:59.340 have any suggestions that are, you know, PG 13 or, or better, please send them along to the show.

00:39:05.760 Uh, let's see here. Uh, there was one other, a couple others. We have a few minutes. I

00:39:13.740 is from Sarah says, Matt, I listened to your podcast about the court case in Connecticut.

00:39:19.080 I wondered if it would be better to forget the battle about the meaning of women of woman and a

00:39:24.140 girl and forfeit the terminology and focus only on chromosomes. Should the girls and their lawyers 1.00

00:39:29.040 argue that there should be sports for people with XX chromosomes because those born with Y chromosomes

00:39:34.980 have an advantage in sports and should play on their own. I guess you would also need to clarify

00:39:39.900 that people with two XX chromosomes who supplement hormones known to increase athletic ability should

00:39:44.960 also be excluded from participating in that category. I am just wondering if those, if using those

00:39:49.580 definitions might make it less emotional, less controversial because the definition of gender

00:39:53.980 is already too muddled in our current culture. I don't know if that is a giving up the battle that

00:39:58.440 needs to be fought or just using correct scientific terms that everybody can agree on. Yes, sir.

00:40:03.360 I understand what you're saying. I've heard the suggestion before, like, okay, let's just forget

00:40:06.280 about this. You know, forget about a boy and girl bathrooms or, or ladies and men and just put

00:40:13.160 XX and XY and that sort of thing. And that's kind of what you're talking about. I'm, I'm not in favor

00:40:18.840 of that for two reasons. First of all, it wouldn't make a difference. It's not going to work. You're

00:40:23.120 not going to, when it comes to leftists and they're engaged in this war against reality and common sense

00:40:27.580 and science, you're not going to be able to do an end run around them, um, and, and say, okay,

00:40:32.920 we'll just call it XX and XY. Not going to happen. It won't work. They won't agree to it. So that's the

00:40:38.560 first thing. Second thing is no, no, I just, I refuse to do it because you talk about, you know,

00:40:46.720 let's use scientific terms. Everybody can agree on the word female is a scientific term that every 1.00

00:40:54.680 rational, insane person can agree on. And I refuse to abandon it. Same for a woman, same for girl, 0.84

00:41:00.080 all of these terms. We all know what these terms mean. There are a lot of people who pretend not to

00:41:07.800 know what these terms mean. And then there are a few people who are, um, crazy and, and, and maybe

00:41:14.400 really don't know what, what the words mean. Uh, because if you don't know what the word female 0.92

00:41:18.560 means, I mean, there are only a few, if you don't know what the word female means, you're either 1.00

00:41:21.760 lying and pretending you don't know, or you're crazy or you're very ignorant. I mean, or you're like a

00:41:28.080 child and no one's ever, you know, you're, you're a four-year-old child. You don't know, but if you're an

00:41:31.500 adult, you should know what these words mean. And I think that everybody does. Almost everybody does.

00:41:40.320 It's just that, you know, we talked about the court case and, uh, who was it? Judge Chetigny

00:41:44.780 up there in Connecticut. He's talking about trans females. He knows what the word female means. 0.98

00:41:54.420 This is, this is a grown adult. Okay. He's just pretending he doesn't. So I'm not going to go

00:41:59.340 along with that. And I don't think we should. I think we absolutely stand our ground on this and

00:42:05.040 say, no, no way. This is what a female is. The word is important. The word has meaning. It is a 0.99

00:42:11.840 scientific biological term, and we will not stop using it. And we will not use it incorrectly just

00:42:18.740 to suit anyone's delusions. It's not going to happen. Uh, finally from Antonio says, hi, Matt.

00:42:23.960 Recently, I started getting interested in the topic of NDE near death experience. Have you read the books

00:42:28.480 of Tim, uh, von Lommel or Raymond Moody? Have you had the opportunity to delve into the topic?

00:42:34.680 What is your opinion about these experiences? Well, Antonio, I think we've talked about this

00:42:38.400 on the show before, but I can't remember exactly. Just to give my very brief summary of my, my view.

00:42:44.140 I'm not a big believer in NDE near death experiences. Uh, well, I guess I should say,

00:42:48.900 I believe that people have experiences. I'm not saying they're, they're lying about the experiences,

00:42:54.580 but I think the experiences are probably neurological and psychological in nature,

00:42:58.760 not spiritual. Um, all the stuff about people floating up to heaven and meeting Jesus and,

00:43:04.120 and, and meeting their dead relatives and, and that sort of stuff. I'm skeptical of all of that

00:43:08.780 for a few reasons. Number one, we should note that, and this to me is the, is the clincher really

00:43:14.720 people of all religions or no religion have these experiences and their experiences are always 0.89

00:43:23.120 specific to their own beliefs. So a Hindu person is going to have a very Hindu like near death 1.00

00:43:29.540 experience. I think that should tell us something, doesn't it? I think it just tells us it's something

00:43:36.140 out of your own head. Second, um, these experiences can be duplicated by drugs like, you know, like

00:43:42.460 hallucinogens, LSD and stuff like that. You can, you can create, uh, a, a, a version of a near

00:43:49.280 death experience through a drug, which I think also tells us that it's psychological. And third,

00:43:54.600 um, the people who've had NDEs aren't actually dead. You know, I know they might say something

00:43:58.520 like I died for three minutes on the operating table, but they didn't really, they didn't

00:44:01.580 actually die. They didn't have a C their, their brain activity did not cease. They weren't fully

00:44:07.020 dead. Now, if somebody, that's what we call it a near death experience. Now, if somebody actually

00:44:12.120 dies and is buried and a week later rises from the grave and starts talking about the afterlife,

00:44:16.380 okay, I'm going to pay attention to that, but that's not this. This is near death. And besides,

00:44:20.840 what is the claim? Is it that like when you get close to death, your soul sort of accidentally

00:44:25.700 slips out of your body and floats up to heaven? I just think that metaphysically, it doesn't make

00:44:29.740 a lot of sense. And the fourth thing is, and this is important. Nobody has ever come back

00:44:34.540 from the afterlife from one of these NDEs. I mean, at least when we talk about documented modern cases,

00:44:42.240 nobody's ever, as far as I'm aware, come back from the afterlife with anything very special to say,

00:44:51.160 as far as I can tell. Mostly they just report the same kind of experiences that other people do,

00:44:57.380 which again, is a version of the experience that a Muslim would have or a Hindu or anybody else,

00:45:02.440 which, which, which also again, often sounds like an LSD trip. And sometimes they come back with a

00:45:08.860 message from the great beyond. I mean, people have written entire books about messages they got when

00:45:12.800 they went to heaven after they supposedly died on the operating table or whatever. But the message

00:45:17.400 is, you know, not to be rude about it, but the message is never very impressive. It's always just

00:45:21.140 something that I could have told you without, without having to die to get the message. It's never

00:45:26.560 something that you would think a person would need to die and go to heaven to hear and report back.

00:45:31.820 So if somebody ever has an NDE and they come back and they have a message that they couldn't

00:45:39.680 possibly have known, you know, or they have a prophecy that comes true or like something like

00:45:44.820 that, then I think, okay, my ears are going to perk up. I'm going to pay attention. But if,

00:45:49.180 if they come back and all they have to say is, you know, basically love each other and live your

00:45:52.640 life to the fullest and stuff like that, I don't know. I just don't think that God needs to pull any,

00:45:56.760 any soul from their body to bring them to heaven, to tell them that and then send them back. I mean,

00:46:01.020 they could have gotten that from a greeting card at Hallmark from the, you know, the greeting card

00:46:03.780 aisle at Rite Aid. So that's why I'm skeptical of all of that. But, you know, I'm, as with anything

00:46:12.000 else, I'm open to new evidence. So, and I do find it, I do find it interesting. So thanks for that

00:46:18.340 email. Thanks everybody for watching and listening. Have a great day. Godspeed.

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00:47:06.740 going through these tough economic times, but did you have any specific advice that you

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00:47:12.400 I think you're in a 60, 90, 120-day mindset. You're only running the business for that amount

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The Matt Walsh Show - May 13, 2020

Ep. 486 - The Curve Is Flattened But The Goalposts Have Moved

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