Ep. 487 - Democrat Governors Don't Want To Give Up Their Lockdown Powers
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Summary
Some states are coming out of lockdowns, while other states are extending the lockdowns for no medically or scientifically justifiable reason. What s one thing that the extension states seem to mostly have in common? Well, they re run by Democrats. What does that tell us? Also, a 5-headed monster, including NASA's plan to intentionally create a meteor shower by slamming something into an asteroid. Should we be concerned about that? Also, CNN is bringing Greta Thunberg on to their expert coronavirus panel. Is she really an expert in anything? My answer to that may actually surprise you.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, some states are coming out of lockdowns while other states are
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extending the lockdowns for no medically or scientifically justifiable reason.
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What's one thing that the extension states seem to mostly have in common? Well, they're run by
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Democrats. What does that tell us? We'll talk about that. Also, five headlines, including
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NASA's plan to intentionally create a meteor shower by slamming something into an asteroid.
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They're going to be doing this soon. Should we be concerned about that? Also, CNN is bringing
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Greta Thunberg on to their expert coronavirus panel, which is going to air tonight. Is she
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really an expert in anything? My answer to that may actually surprise you. And in our daily
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cancellation, I will finally be canceling the hero worship of nurses. I suspect this segment will get
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the state of Michigan under Empress Whitmer, a Democrat, extended its stay-at-home order at least
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until the end of May, at least. Pennsylvania under Emperor Wolf, Democrat, extended its stay-at-home
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order into June. California under Emperor Newsom, a Democrat, has a stay-at-home order in place
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indefinitely until they get to a point where they go two weeks without anyone dying of coronavirus,
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which is another way of saying their stay-at-home order is in place forever, it would seem.
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Wisconsin under Emperor Tony Evers, a Democrat, tried to extend its stay-at-home order,
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but the state Supreme Court just struck it down, which is great. Thank God. By the way,
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Wisconsin has had 418 coronavirus deaths total. That's it this whole time in three months. 418.
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And the governor wanted to keep the stay-at-home order in place. Now, you can't help but notice
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something about these states and the rest of the states that are extending their lockdowns rather
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than ending them. You can't help but notice that mostly these are states run by Democrats.
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Now, I've never been a conspiracy theorist on this whole thing. Now, the idea that these lockdowns
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were originally conceived purely as a way to wreck the economy in order to destroy Trump's
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re-election chances, I didn't buy that. And I still don't. Now, for one thing, Republican governors
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were doing it too. And for another, Trump himself has been on board with it. So now he's vacillated
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the whole time and been quite indecisive. But if it was nothing but a plot against him
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and he was himself a part of it and cheering it on and approving of it, then that would make him
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either politically suicidal or the dumbest dupe in the history of dumb dupes. But I don't think
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that's the case. I think originally there was fear, panic, incompetence, a total lack of clarity,
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a total lack of any kind of plan. And in the midst of all that, these little would-be dictators,
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these petty tyrants found an opportunity to exert the kind of control that they've always wanted to
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exert. It's the whole reason they got into politics. We have to remember the reason most
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people get into politics is because they want to control people. They want to be in charge.
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They're narcissists. The vast majority of people. I mean, that's the only motivation you could have
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aside from a deep and sincere desire to serve people. Okay. And maybe in the history of politics,
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there have been like three people who actually got into it for that reason. Everybody else is
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because they're narcissists and they want to control people. So they like the power. You know,
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as the lockdowns continued, they discovered they get a lot of power. They liked controlling every
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aspect of everybody's lives. They liked doing, as all the governors have done, their daily press
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conferences and having everybody watch. And they liked having their citizens who really now felt like
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their citizens, not citizens of the state or the country, but their citizens. They liked having them
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hang on every word, you know, their every decree. And that I believe explains how the lockdown started
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and why it continued. But now as the curve has been flattened and as many states in the country,
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most states, in fact, never had a coronavirus emergency. And in fact, have been plagued with
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sort of the opposite with empty hospitals and laid off hospital staffs this whole time,
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not to mention millions of unemployed and laid off citizens in other sectors of the economy.
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Now, as we inch closer to the election, we're going to see politics play a much bigger role than it
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did perhaps at the beginning. Whereas it was a bunch of governors having ego trips at the beginning,
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Republican and Democrat. Now the political calculations really start to take hold. We are in a precarious
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and volatile situation as a country right now. Truly unlike anything in recent history, at least,
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you know, coming out or continuing in these lockdowns with a presidential election only months
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away. And that's an election that was already going to be itself extremely volatile, even more than
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normal, just based on the sheer hatred that Trump's enemies have for him. And so, of course,
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you know, Democrats are going to say to themselves, well, if we open up and everything turns out okay,
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and the economy starts to climb back and recover, Trump is going to get credit for that.
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From their perspective, going into an election, after having survived a pandemic, on the upswing,
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in recovery, optimism, hope, relief, all of that, that's not good politically. It's just not.
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That's not the mood. That's not the attitude you want if you're challenging the incumbent. You want fear,
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despair, anger, hopelessness. And there is just no way at this point, there's just no way that that
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isn't part of the calculation for these Democrats. I mean, just look at what's happening in Los Angeles
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under their Democrat mayor. Lockdown extended three months.
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The mayor announced yesterday that all residents in the city have to wear a mask whenever they leave
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their homes for any reason, no matter where they're going, even if they're going to be outside the
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whole time, walking around the block, checking the mailbox, you need a mask.
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He, quote, reopened the beaches. But let's take a look at what his reopening of the beaches entails.
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And I know I should be used to this craziness by now, but this is just, let's take a look. I'll show you this.
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pertaining to the beaches. It says, LA beaches reopened today for active recreation only, such as
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swimming, surfing, running, and walking. No gathering is allowed, and activities such as sunbathing and
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group sports are not permitted. You must wear a face covering and maintain six feet of distance from
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others. Okay. So you can't bike, but you can run. You can't sit, but you can walk. You can't picnic,
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but you can surf. Does any of this make any sense? Is there any medical or scientific justification for
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any of this? Of course not. I mean, really look at this. Soak this in for a minute. Because honestly,
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it's not very often that you're going to see a sitting listed as a prohibited activity on a beach.
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That doesn't happen very often. So what is the point of this? Telling people they have to wear a
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mask at the beach when there's no evidence that the virus can be transmitted in that environment.
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And even if it could, it's the beach. It's very big. That's the thing about the beach.
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It's very easy to maintain social distance at the beach. I used to live in a beach town.
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And I can tell you, even at its height, even at the busiest part, you know, July 4th,
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tourist season, you could still easily go to, there's a lot of people at the beach,
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you could still easily go to the beach and not come within six feet of another person.
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Because there's a lot of space. So even if the virus could be effectively spread outside at the beach,
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which it doesn't seem that it can, even if it could, none of this would make sense.
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Least of all, would it make sense to tell people they can't sit down and relax?
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Especially if you want people to maintain social distance.
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The easiest way at the beach to maintain social distance is to pick a spot, set up your
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towel and umbrella, and that's your spot. That's the easiest way to stay away from other people.
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If you're telling them they have to keep moving, it's going to be a lot harder.
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So what's the point? I think it's obvious that, first of all, these petty tyrants don't want to
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give up the power. They don't want to give up the crisis. And also, they don't want to send a
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message of optimism and recovery and normalcy going into an election with a Republican incumbent.
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I think it's as simple as that. One other point, though, about this,
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this whole thing of, you know, social distancing and everything. And this is a really obvious point
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that shouldn't need to be made, but I'm going to make it anyway, because apparently it does.
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And I was thinking about this especially, because I want to, here's another picture I want to show
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you. This is something that someone posted approvingly on online, and it's a picture from
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a German cafe. And this is what this German cafe is doing to enforce social distancing.
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I've actually seen this before. So there are other places that are doing this. And you see they have
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their people, their patrons, their customers, wearing hats with pool noodles attached so that
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they'll, somehow that's supposed to help them maintain social distance. Because, of course,
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you know, when you're sitting down at a place and there's hot coffee and everything and drinks and
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food, yeah, the best thing you want to do is have people with pool noodles hanging off of them,
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right? What could possibly go wrong? But not only is something like that embarrassing and emasculating
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and absurd and stupid, but it's also totally pointless. This is not necessary. We don't need
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to think of creative and patronizing ways to get people to maintain social distance. We don't need all
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these complicated rules at the beach. You can do this, you can do that, you got to wear a mask,
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right? We don't need any of that. It's people understand the concept of giving each other space.
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And almost everybody is more than happy to do it. It's not hard. That's all you got to say. We don't
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need any of the rest of this stuff. All you got to say is, hey, look, just give people some space,
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okay? That's all you got to say. And almost everybody is more than happy to do that. Even
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without the coronavirus, people are more than happy to do that. You don't have to tell people twice,
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give each other space at the beach. They want space. I mean, it's not like people are running
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up and kissing strangers on the mouth for the most part, unless it's spring break.
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But families at the beach, that's not what they're doing. They're going with their own family. They
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want their own little space, and that's fine. I mentioned I was out with my wife for Mother's Day.
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We were out with the family. We were at Havre de Grace in Maryland, which is a small little
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town on the bay, historic town. And there's a lighthouse, and there's a little boardwalk and
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stuff. And we were there. It was very busy, because it's Mother's Day. It would always be busy. But
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especially now, people don't have anywhere else to go. So there's a lot of people there.
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And, but there was no complicated, nobody was wearing pool noodles on their head.
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People weren't wearing masks, unless they were going into a store. They weren't wearing them
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outside. There was no complicated procedure in place. There were no cops patrolling the area,
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telling us what to do. And yet, we figured out how to just enjoy ourselves and walk around and have a
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normal time, without, while also giving each other space. Not hard to do. People can figure that out.
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That's what most people do anyway. Okay? When we're walking by someone on the boardwalk,
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it's not like there's a moment of panic and confusion, and we don't know what to do,
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so one of us just jumps into the water. No, it's just, okay, we clear some space, and we just keep
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walking. That's it. Just move over, keep walking. That's all you need to do. We don't need any of
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life. Celebrate the moments that matter most. Okay, the new jobless report is out. This is tradition
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now, of course. The sad tradition now. Every Thursday. Every Thursday at 830 in the morning
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is when the jobless numbers come out. And I know that now. It's sad that I know it, but
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I do. 3 million additional unemployed people last week. That brings the official number to
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35 million. A little more than 35 million. 35 million. Okay. Now think about this for a
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minute. Think about what the number means. Because let's look at this optimistically. As optimistically
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as we can, let's say, and I'm pulling this number out of thin air, but let's say very optimistically
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in a dream fantasy scenario, 80% of the people who lost their job since this all began are hired
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back in the next few months. Let's say that we can recover 80% of those losses. That's about as
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optimistic as we could possibly be, I think. And even that isn't going to happen. But no rational
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person thinks that 90% or 100% of people are going to be hired back. My point, though, is
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that even if it was 80% who were hired back, that would still leave 7 or 8 million unemployed
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people. And under normal circumstances, if we had shed 8 million jobs in two months, that
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would be seen as a crisis, as an economic crisis. And now, though, it's like the dream. It's the
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hope. It's the best case scenario. Now, my point isn't to panic anyone or to make us
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feel hopeless, especially if you don't have a job right now. But I think we need to be realistic
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about what we're heading into. Number two, a little bit of positivity here. Let's get away from
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the doom and gloom for a moment. With the lockdowns and everything, one of the good things is that
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nature is healing itself. Nature is returning to its old glory, reclaiming its territory as
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the era of human civilization draws to a close mercifully. So here's a great example. This
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is footage out of California yesterday. Watch this. It's very beautiful.
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The goats have returned. The wild goats have returned, as the prophecy foretold. Beautiful.
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Actually, I have no idea what's happening in that video. No clue. But I saw it, and it was
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interesting. So there it is. Number three, as if we didn't have enough on our plate, we are now told
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that NASA has launched a mission called DART. That's the Double Asteroid Redirection Test
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Mission. And the idea is to slam into an asteroid on purpose, intentionally creating a meteor shower.
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That's what they're going to do. And this would be the first human-caused meteor shower in history.
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What could possibly be the drawback there, right? They're telling us it will be harmless. That's
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what they're saying. But I mean, it seems like there are a lot of variables here, a lot of unknowns.
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The idea is to test their ability to redirect an asteroid in case one ever really does threaten
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Earth. But my thing is, though, first of all, can we stop and have a conversation about whether we'd
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actually want to redirect an asteroid if it was going to slam into Earth and kill us all?
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I'm just saying. There are two sides of that argument, and I think we should have a discussion
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about it. That's it. Second, I was at the lake with my kids the other day, and I threw a rock
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to skip it across the lake, and I almost hit a baby goose in the face by accident. I didn't. The goose
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was okay, but I almost did. My point here in this parable is that disaster almost struck when I threw
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a rock into a lake that I was standing right in front of. Now we're going to launch a missile at an
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asteroid millions of miles away that's traveling hundreds of thousands of miles an hour, intending to
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redirect it while planet Earth stands precariously in its path. I just, I don't know. Makes me a little
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uncomfortable. Four, and tonight, watch out for this. CNN is hosting a town hall on the coronavirus,
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and there's going to be an expert panel. Here is the expert panel. Take a look. You see,
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so we've got a couple of former bureaucrats on the panel, so that's great. And then, yes,
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Greta Thunberg. Greta Thunberg, the 16-year-old, is on a panel of coronavirus experts. Now,
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lots of people are making fun of CNN for this, saying, you know, she's not an expert. She's just a kid
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who thinks that we're all going to drown next week. That doesn't really make her an expert in
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anything, especially not a virus. And that's true. But look at the name of this event. This is what
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people are missing. In defense of CNN, which I would rarely offer defenses of CNN, look at the name.
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It says, Coronavirus Facts and Fears. I mean, Greta Thunberg is indeed an expert on fear. She's an expert
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on feeling fear. She's an expert on spreading it. So actually, I think she does belong on the panel.
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Okay. Number five, finally, here is a video that's going viral right now online. It is reportedly
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footage of a confrontation between a woman, a mother with a toddler at the subway station in
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New York. Confrontation between her and police. And reportedly, what started all this is that she
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wasn't wearing a face mask correctly. And then here's what happened next.
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Right. Yes. Because, you know, if you're concerned about germs being spread, the most sensible thing
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to do is to throw somebody onto the ground on the floor of a subway station and then dogpile on top
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of them. That's going to be a good way to stop the spread of germs, isn't it? Now, I mean, you can say
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we don't have all the context here. We don't know exactly what happened. That's fine. She was arguing
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with the police. She wasn't submitting, you know, like a good little citizen. And fine, that's all true
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too. But we're going to see more and more of this. And you just, you can't expect people to tolerate
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being harassed by police over issues like this. And this is not how the police department should be
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used. You know, people, this is, this is not a woman who's on a, you know, with her, with her
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toddler at the subway station. This is not the kind of dangerous criminal that we want cops to be
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chasing after. And the other thing is, you know, I understand and I've gotten plenty of, I've read some
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of the emails, I think, from some of the police officers that have written to this show and have
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said anonymously that they are, you know, they don't like having to enforce these rules. They
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don't support them. The last thing they want to do when they get up in the morning and they go into
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their job, they don't want to go down and start policing people for how they're wearing their face
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masks or if they're not social distancing correctly. That's not the kind of thing. It's not why you got into
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the police force in the first place is to enforce laws like that. And, and I understand that. So the cops are
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in a tough spot, too. But the, the we're just following orders excuse only goes so far. And I think we've
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reached its limit, personally. Okay, let's go to your daily cancellation. I'm going to be canceling the hero
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worship of nurses. I think it's time to cancel this finally. I'm not canceling nurses themselves
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because I, you know, I like nurses. I respect what they do. They have an important job. But all I'm
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asking for is a little bit of perspective and a little bit of common sense. That's all. So look at
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this tweet from NBC News 10 in New York. It's a picture of a bunch of nurses holding a sign and the
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caption reads, healthcare heroes. This morning, we're honoring a group from the United Memorial Center.
00:25:25.860
They work in the Lipson Cancer and Infusion Center in Batavia. Batavia, I don't know how to pronounce
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that. Their message, we stay here for you. You stay home for us. Thank you for keeping us safe and
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healthy. Okay. So first thing, again, I respect healthcare workers. I appreciate what they do.
00:25:50.480
It's a necessary job. And generally in my own personal experience, either as a patient or
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or when my kids have been patients or another family member, I've generally been impressed with
00:26:01.900
the nurses that I've dealt with. And that's why I said I've always liked nurses. But this thing where
00:26:09.080
we call every nurse a hero is just silly. And it cheapens the word hero. And it's patronizing.
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Um, these people in the picture, they work at a cancer center in upstate New York.
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That's great. I'm glad they do it. It's very important work. I don't think though,
00:26:30.300
going into your cancer center in upstate New York is an act of heroism. I just, I don't. I don't
00:26:37.700
think it requires immense courage to do it. You know, going into the middle of an epi, going into the
00:26:44.240
middle of the epicenter of an epidemic, specifically to work with infected people. Yes, that I will call
00:26:51.300
heroic, certainly. But just going to do your job, um, at your local hospital is, is not heroic. It's
00:26:57.780
your job and you're paid to do it. That's not heroism. And that's not an insult either. Not
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insulting you. I'm just saying the word hero has, should have meaning. And it loses its meaning when
00:27:11.200
we just apply it to anybody who wears scrubs and works at a hospital. And that's the other thing
00:27:18.460
too, saying it's their job. Well, what they're telling us in that, in that sign, they're saying,
00:27:22.800
stay home and we'll stay here for you. Yeah. Well, it's easy for you to say you get paid to stay there.
00:27:29.400
There are 35 million people who aren't getting paid anymore and would like to, because they'd like
00:27:36.600
to feed their families, feed their kids. There are 35 million people who, who had jobs like you
00:27:41.600
also had important jobs. Okay. I mean, anyone's job is important, at least to them and their families.
00:27:48.200
And there are many other kinds of jobs out there that are important to communities too.
00:27:51.560
And, um, a lot of those people, a lot of those people don't have jobs anymore.
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And, and so they would like to, so I'm sorry, but it comes across as selfish for nurses to say,
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oh, all you people stay home for our sake. What? What kind of, who says that anyway?
00:28:11.000
Who says that? Who just declares that to millions of people? All of you stay home, stay home for us.
00:28:16.660
Here's what I need you to do for us. Stay home, be unemployed. If you need to go and get in a bread
00:28:25.060
line, then do that, but otherwise stay home. Do it for me. How is that not an insanely selfish,
00:28:32.120
not to mention tone deaf message? And it doesn't get any less selfish or less tone deaf just because
00:28:37.400
nurses are saying it. You know, what would be a selfless and inspiring message? Here's what I would
00:28:43.080
like. This would inspire me. And this I would think would be self selfless from a nurse. If the nurses
00:28:49.320
were to say, Hey, you out there, go out and live your life, go to your job, feed your kids, take care
00:28:57.840
of your, of, of your business, do what you need to. If you get sick, we'll be here for you. Now,
00:29:04.660
now that's a nice message. That's an encouraging message. Not stay home, stay home, unemployed while
00:29:12.880
we work. Of course, I mean, that's been the message from the media too. So that's a common
00:29:18.380
message these days, but, uh, it doesn't become suddenly virtuous or valiant because nurses are
00:29:24.500
saying it. Um, and, and, and, you know, by the way, also there, there are a lot of people who have
00:29:32.300
been, who have medical problems and, and symptoms and have been staying home as they've been instructed
00:29:38.460
to. And, um, and they shouldn't be because they should be, they should be going to the doctor
00:29:43.780
and they're not. I mean, think about how many cancer, how many cancers have gone undiagnosed
00:29:50.620
because of this. That's a whole other aspect of the shutdown. Um, now we're going to go to some
00:29:57.580
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00:30:58.800
And again, if you become a daily wire member, you can always have access to the mailbag and send emails
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that way. This is from Tim says, Hey Matt, I just recently became a daily wire member came for Ben
00:31:08.220
staying for Matt. Just wanted to get your thoughts on Biden calling out Trump for not wearing a mask
00:31:13.620
when going out in public. I feel that the president is trying to portray strength and show that he
00:31:18.180
isn't afraid considering he gets tested frequently and masks are better for protecting others. This
00:31:22.700
seems like just another feeble attempt to blame Trump for everything since when is it wrong for a
00:31:26.940
president to show some courage? Thanks for all you do. Yeah, I agree with you, Tim. I don't have no
00:31:31.100
problem with Trump not wearing a mask. As you said, everyone around him is getting tested constantly
00:31:37.440
and he's getting tested constantly as he should be. So I, and, and if he's, you know, if he's standing,
00:31:46.000
you know, if he's walking around or something, or he's giving a press conference, I mean, I don't
00:31:51.460
know how you give a press conference in a mask anyway. And so I don't have an issue with that.
00:31:55.440
And I kind of agree. I think it would send the wrong message personally to have him walking around
00:31:59.180
in a mask all the time. I think we have to remember, you know, a lot of these politicians
00:32:03.300
that are wearing masks, they're just doing it for show. And no, I don't, I don't support,
00:32:09.840
I don't support wearing a mask as a fashion statement or to virtue signal or just doing it
00:32:15.560
for show. I mean, all these people on social media, Facebook and Twitter and stuff, their,
00:32:19.920
their profile pictures now are them in masks. Did you need to wear a mask while you took a profile
00:32:25.680
picture? No, you didn't. You just want to show off that you're wearing a mask and you're being
00:32:28.540
responsible. I, as I've said before, when it comes to the mask thing, if, if, if a store requires a
00:32:36.400
mask for entry, I'll wear the mask. No problem. It's their right to require it. I got no issue with
00:32:41.280
that. If that's what they need to do to get going again and to, and to, you know, to, to operate.
00:32:47.240
And if that's what we need to do to get the economy going perfectly fine. But, um, no, uh, this idea
00:32:53.560
that you need to just wear, we all need to be wearing masks all the time everywhere is absurd.
00:32:59.860
Let's see. This is from, um, Sean says, dear Matt, you've confessed to it. So I'll just ask
00:33:07.960
when you and Clavin are trespassing on private property construction sites during your Bob Villa
00:33:12.760
LARPing sessions, when you left the private property, you had no business being in and you
00:33:17.320
are immediately confronted by an armed neighbor who demands you stop and explain what the hell you were
00:33:22.380
doing in that house. What would your reaction be? One, stop, apologize profusely and explain yourself
00:33:27.000
or two, fight the neighbor to the death for his gun. Ask Clavin what his answer is too, please.
00:33:32.360
Uh, yeah, this is, or no, that's from, that might've been from Jason. It's either from Jason or Sean.
00:33:39.360
I lost the name. Anyway, whoever, whoever sent that email, uh, what he's referring to is now I can't
00:33:44.760
speak for Clavin. I don't know what Clavin's stance is on this. I'm not going to speak to that, but
00:33:48.840
I, you know, I, I mentioned that when people are talking about with, with Arbery and the fact that
00:33:56.720
he was on a construction site, again, I don't know why he was on the site. Okay. Maybe he was a
00:34:01.940
burglar. The homeowner says that nothing was stolen. That to me is significant, but, uh, who knows what
00:34:09.040
he was doing there? He could have had sinister motivations. I don't know, but it doesn't have to
00:34:14.340
be sinister. I can imagine a scenario where somebody would go on a construction site, not
00:34:20.360
intending to steal anything just to kind of check it out. Now I have done that myself. I'm not, I don't
00:34:24.760
go out and do it every day. I'm not, I'm not running, you know, uh, driving around looking for
00:34:29.980
construction sites to trespass on, but there have been times in my life when I have been walking by
00:34:35.620
something under construction. I stopped to take a look. I've done that. I thought it was kind of
00:34:41.120
normal. I thought it was something that guys do sometimes. Apparently not from the reaction I've
00:34:46.340
gotten. Apparently it's not normal. Okay. I'll admit that. Um, so I have been guilty of that in
00:34:49.920
the past of trespassing. Uh, now to answer your question, let's say I stop. I look at a construction
00:34:58.320
site and as I'm leaving, a guy runs up with a gun to confront me. What would I do? The first answer
00:35:08.260
is I don't know because I think you can't, you can't really know what you would do in that
00:35:12.720
situation until you're in it. But I think there's a very good possibility that I would run because
00:35:18.720
I don't know who this guy is. I don't know what his intention is. I don't know if he's crazy and
00:35:24.480
he's about to shoot me for being on a construction site and yeah, I shouldn't have been on it, but that
00:35:28.220
doesn't mean I'm going to offer myself to be shot. Okay. So yes, I'm, I might well run, which is what
00:35:34.120
Arbery apparently did originally. So from what we, from, from, from, from how we understand the
00:35:41.020
situation now, it seems as though originally confronted, he ran, they chased him down,
00:35:47.940
parked their car in the middle of the road to head him off. One guy's on the street with a gun,
00:35:53.080
another guy's up with a truck bed with a gun. And so it's only in that second interaction,
00:36:00.100
if we can call it that, that Arbery decided rather than flee, he was going to fight.
00:36:06.120
I could see myself doing that too, frankly. You know, the person confronts you with a gun,
00:36:11.920
you don't know if they're crazy and they're going to kill you. So you just, you just,
00:36:14.420
and you don't really want to stick around and find out. So you run, you know, I think when someone
00:36:19.120
confronts you with a gun, running is a pretty understandable reaction, even if you're a burglar.
00:36:25.580
I mean, let's say that I was on the construction site burglarizing it. Let's say I was there,
00:36:29.980
stealing power tools or something. And then somebody runs up with a gun. I'd still run.
00:36:37.880
I'm probably not going to just stop and say, Oh, you got me. Do what you will. I deserve it.
00:36:43.820
I'm probably going to run because I don't want to die. And then that second time, when you see,
00:36:48.320
when you see that scene, they're, they're, they're parked in the middle of the freaking street
00:36:53.220
with guns. Yeah. You might think at this point, okay, these people really want to kill me. And
00:36:59.280
now I got to, now it's a, it's a, it's a fight to the death. I could see someone making that
00:37:04.320
calculation. I could, I mean, you say Jason or Sean, whoever you are, that you can't, you can't see
00:37:09.960
that. You don't understand it. All right. I guess I'll take your word for that. But to me,
00:37:16.200
it doesn't seem that unreasonable. It doesn't seem that unreasonable to conclude when people
00:37:22.280
are coming after you with guns, that they might want to kill you. I think that's a logical conclusion.
00:37:28.200
I don't know. Burglar or not. That's my point. Whether there, he's a burglar or not.
00:37:33.820
This is from Steve says, hello, Mr. Walsh. I'm not sure if you'll get this or not,
00:37:38.080
but I'll keep it short. A 77 year old barber here in Michigan is being railroaded by the Michigan
00:37:43.600
state AG and our governor. He chose to go back to work at the barbershop he owns because he was
00:37:47.960
broke and had no other choice. They tried to shut him down and issue citations. He won in a court
00:37:53.380
case. The judge chose the state could not file a temporary restraining order. So because they
00:37:59.820
lost in court, they simply chose to pull his license with no due process. Maybe if enough people find out
00:38:04.900
about this, we can help them out. I'm a big fan. If you can't, if you can't talk about it or don't
00:38:08.540
have time, I understand. Really love your show. Thank you for your time. I hadn't heard about this case.
00:38:12.380
Thanks for passing it along. I'll look into it. I mean, that sounds completely outrageous,
00:38:16.780
but it's, it does also doesn't surprise me with what's happening up there in Michigan.
00:38:21.660
So yeah, thanks for passing it along. And I will, I'll, I'll look into that. I think we're going to
00:38:28.940
see, we're going to see a lot of that. I mean, you look in Wisconsin, like I mentioned, they tried,
00:38:34.780
the governor tried to extend the stay at home order. State Supreme court shut it down. Thank God
00:38:39.300
said he's not allowed to do it. Well, you know, I, I, is the, is the, are these petty tyrants going
00:38:45.740
to give up that easy and say, okay, fine. No, they're going to find other ways around it to
00:38:50.000
control people. And so I think we're going to see a lot more of this. Thanks for passing that along.
00:38:53.740
We'll leave it there for today. Thanks for watching everybody. Godspeed.
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Hey everyone. It's Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan show. Obamagate continues to spread
00:39:42.180
and so do various overbearing lockdowns in various Democrat States. It's time to teach the left what
00:39:48.000
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