Ep. 490 - NYT Claims ＂Believe All Women＂ Is A Right Wing Conspiracy
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The New York Times now claims that feminists never said, "believe all women." They didn't say that. They haven't spent the last five years saying that. That was all a devious right-wing trick, a conspiracy. That's what the Times is claiming, and other people on the left are echoing that claim. Also, a woman with no corroboration beyond contemporaneous accounts charges a powerful man with a decades old crime.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, an article in the New York Times now claims that feminists
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never said, believe all women, don't believe your lying ears. They didn't say that. They never said
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it. They didn't say, they haven't spent the last five years saying that. That was all a devious
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right-wing trick, a conspiracy. That's what the New York Times is claiming and other people on
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the left are echoing that claim. So we'll talk about that. Also, five headlines, including the
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extraordinary, not to mention counterproductive and stupid measures that some businesses and people
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are putting into place ostensibly to offer protection from the coronavirus. And in our
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daily cancellation, the time has finally come, finally, to cancel the UN. And it's long past
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due. I'll explain why I'm canceling them. All of that coming up. But first, starting with this,
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you know, I actually had a whole different plan for this show today. But then sort of at the last
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minute, I happened to see this piece in the New York Times. And now I have to call an audible because
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this thing pissed me off so much that I have to rant and rave about it right at the top here. I don't
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have a choice. I have to. So to set the stage here, you know, our friends on the left have been trying
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very hard over the past several weeks to reconcile their treatment of Tara Reid, who is the Joe Biden,
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Joe Biden sexual assault accuser, with their previous claims that we should believe women or
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believe all women. Only it's very hard to reconcile because the believe women champions have discovered
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one woman they won't believe. And it just so happens that she's the woman accusing the Democratic
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candidate for president. What a coincidence, you know? So it very much appears that these people
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are a bunch of vile, gutless, shameless hypocrites. That's how it seems. You know, it really comes across
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that way. How can you go from shouting, believe women for years and years and years to suddenly
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don't believe that hussy. She's lying through her teeth. That's that's a pretty tough transition to make
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and a noticeable one, a conspicuous one. It's going to make people think that you're full of crap.
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So how do you get around it? It's a it's a tough spot that people on the left are in. Now, one way of
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getting around it is to just not be a hypocrite and not have a double standard and apply the same
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standard to Tara Reid and Joe Biden that you applied to everybody else. That's one thing you could do.
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That's the honest approach. But if you're not going to be honest, then what are you going to do?
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Well, feminists on the left have figured out what their strategy is going to be.
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They're going to do what they always do, which is lie and try to rewrite history.
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So much so that now they are actually claiming that Believe All Women was invented by the right wing.
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They are trying to. Right now, as we speak, they're trying to rewrite the history books
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while we watch them do it. They're like right in front of us, pulling the history books out and
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ripping out pages while claiming they're not doing that. Hoping we'll forget everything they've said
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and done for the past several years. Which brings us to this New York Times piece written by Susan
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Faludi, titled Believe All Women is a Right-Wing Trap. How Feminists Got Stuck Answering for a Canard.
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Amazing. That's yeah. How did they get stuck answering for the things that they've said?
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I don't know. We'll find out. Here's what the article says in part. It says,
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Joe Biden has been accused of sexual assault and conservatives are having a field day,
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exultant, that they've caught feminists in a new hypocrisy trap. A woman with no corroboration
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beyond contemporaneous accounts charges a powerful man with a decades-old crime? Hmm. Doesn't that
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sound mighty close to Christine Blasey Ford's complaint about, again, Supreme Court nominee
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Brett Kavanaugh? Yes. Yet this time, many liberals who've championed the Me Too movement seem
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skeptical. Gotcha. Yes, gotcha. That's right. I mean, we weren't looking for the gotcha,
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but you have presented it to us. And yes, this is a gotcha moment that you have created for
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yourself. But not so fast, because here comes the reversal move from Susan. She says,
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In fact, Believe All Women does have an asterisk. It's never been feminist boilerplate. What we are
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witnessing is another instance of the right decrying what it imagines the American women's movement to be.
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Spend some mind-numbing hours tracking the origins of Believe All Women on social media sites and news
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databases, as I did, and you'll discover how language, like a virus, can mutate overnight.
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All of a sudden, yesterday's quotes suffer the insertion of some foreign DNA that makes them
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easy to weaponize. In this case, the foreign intrusion is a word, is a single word, all.
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In my online searches, I encountered some feminists who seemed genuinely to subscribe to the phrase,
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but overwhelmingly, the Twitterati deploying the phrase were conservatives, wielding it as a whip.
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Why? Because the right knows that Me Too activists do well to keep in mind.
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Peril lies in purity. If the pluralism of the women's movement can be reduced to rigid boilerplate
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in the public mind, then the future of Me Too will have more to lose from a single untruthful woman
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whom it's sworn to defend than from boatloads of predatory men. This is why Believe All Women
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is not an amplification of Believe Women, but its negation.
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So where does this leave feminists? Feminism has indeed believed many things about all women,
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that all women are deserving of equal treatment under the law, equal pay in the workplace,
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reproductive health, freedom from domestic violence.
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And feminists have long held that all women should be believed when the all refers to all categories of women,
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i.e. equal regardless of race, religion, or economic status.
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This is what Anita Hill meant when she said in a CNN town hall in 2017,
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until we can believe all women, every woman's voice has value, none of us really will be seen as equal.
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And good luck finding any feminist who thinks we should believe everything all women say,
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The claim, you know, and you have to sift, it's a lot longer than what I just spent,
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too long reading, but you have to sift through a lot of diversion tactics and obfuscation and everything
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The claim being made here incredibly, and it's a claim that has been repeated and amplified
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by many other left-wing feminists and others on the left,
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And you see, those are two completely different things.
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Jill Filipovich is a prominent feminist writer.
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She shared this article on Twitter, approvingly, of course, and summarized the point this way.
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That is, start with the assumption that women are telling the truth instead of reflexively doubting them.
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So, okay, let's just be very clear about a couple of things here.
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Number one, there is no difference at all between believe women and believe all women.
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If you said believe women, then you said believe all women.
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When you say believe women, you are saying believe all women.
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If people on the right were inclined to use the phrase believe all women, it was only to emphasize, to highlight the danger and absurdity and stupidity of the slogan that feminists came up with.
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You know, it'd be like if I said, if I said, I love dogs, which I don't, but let's just say I did that.
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And then you came by with your German Shepherd and said, hey, check out Rex.
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Now, you would be quite reasonable to respond by saying, hey, you just said you love dogs.
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And it would be no use for me to say, yeah, but I never said I love all dogs.
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Because loving dogs means loving all things that are dogs.
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If there are dogs you don't love, then you don't love dogs.
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So if what you meant was I love certain dogs, then you should have said that rather than saying I love dogs.
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Now, the statement I love dogs is true, even if you actually hate certain dogs.
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It's true technically that, you know, you do love dogs, but the all is implied in the statement I love dogs.
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So if you actually have a deep-seated hatred for certain dogs, then for the sake of clarity and proper communication,
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you would need to say something like I love certain dogs or I love some dogs or I love most dogs or even I love all dogs but one.
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Any of those would work and be much clearer and much truer.
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If you just say it as a blanket statement, then you've made a blanket statement.
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What feminists are now claiming is that the all was not implied in believe women.
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That's what they're telling us now is that they really meant believe some women and we were supposed to understand that that was the implication.
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In fact, if they only ever meant that we should believe some women, then the slogan was totally unnecessary.
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There's been nobody anywhere saying that we should believe no women.
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Nobody ever said that we can't believe women ever about anything.
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What some of us did say is that women should be believed under certain circumstances.
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If there's good evidence, if there's a good reason, if she's credible, if the accusation is credible, so on and so forth.
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See, that was the approach that a lot of us were taking.
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Believe women was a slogan invented in contrast to that approach.
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It was literally invented as a response to, a retort to, the believe some women philosophy.
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Now they're trying to pretend that it was actually meant to support the philosophy that these feminists have spent years railing against.
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Oh, and by the way, for the record, these people actually did say all.
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I mean, any of us can go online and Google and you can go back and you can look at the rallies.
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You could, you know, you could see the tweets and the things that they said, you know, on cable news and everything.
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That was, this is during the Kavanaugh hearings.
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And before you try to say, oh, it says survivors, not women.
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Well, the point is, what are you believing about the survivors?
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You're believing that they are survivors, right?
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To say we believe all survivors is to say we believe everyone who claims to be a survivor of sexual assault.
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That is a huge sign that they are holding at the Kavanaugh hearings and that many people are gathered around approvingly endorsing that message.
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Now it's, yes, there's, there's no way to actually live by that.
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That is an impossible standard that you couldn't actually believe and live by.
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I mean, come out and just say that, oh, you know, yes.
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I mean, we, we did say this and that was our point, but, but clearly it's crazy.
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And we, and, you know, we didn't really mean it.
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There needed to be a lot more nuance in this conversation.
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Number two, Jill, uh, uh, uh, Philopovich, you know, tried to make believe women seem more reasonable by explaining that what she really meant is that, you know, we, we should start, what, what was she said?
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She said, we should start with the assumption that women are telling the truth, which, which by the way, is exactly what Biden said almost verbatim during Kavanaugh.
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He said that we should, uh, something like we should, we should start with the assumption that the essence of what a woman is saying is true when she makes a, an accusation.
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Well, that is certainly what believe women or believe all women would entail.
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But, but do you not see that spelling it out like that actually makes it sound even worse?
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That doesn't, that, that's not a clarification that makes it sound better or more reasonable.
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No, you can't start with the assumption that what she's saying is true.
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Our entire philosophy and system of justice is built on the idea that you start with the assumption, presumption of innocence of the accused.
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Yes, now you aren't required to do that outside of the context of a courtroom.
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But it's also, again, not just the system of justice, it's our philosophy, our idea of justice.
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Is that the most just thing to do, the most just way to approach it, is to start with a presumption of innocence when an accusation is made.
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And what that means is, because here's the difference, right?
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If you're starting with the assumption of innocence of the accused, then what that means is if the person making the accusation, whatever the accusation is, what we're saying to that person is, show me the goods.
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Give me reason to believe because I'm not just going to believe it on your word.
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Now, if we're starting with the assumption that the accusation is true, which is what Jill Filopovich right now is saying, that's supposedly her philosophy.
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Well, if you're starting with the assumption that the accusation is true, then what you're saying to the accused is, you better give me reasons to believe you're innocent.
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You better come with evidence that you're innocent.
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Putting the accused in the impossible position of having to prove their innocence, or the nearly impossible position, if not impossible, because you're trying to prove a negative.
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You're trying to prove that you did not do something, which is almost impossible to do, especially when it was years ago.
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They're saying, no, we didn't say believe all women.
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And then, no, we didn't mean that you should literally just believe everything a woman says.
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We meant that you should start with the assumption that everything she says is true.
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These are all just a series of distinctions without differences.
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It's like if I said, no, I didn't say it was a square.
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I said it was a geometric object with four equal straight sides and four right angles.
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It's just a different way of saying the exact same thing.
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Number three, and of course, you know, the big problem here is that whether it's believe all women or believe women or assume that what women say is true, whichever dumb slogan you go with, which all mean the same thing, the problem is that the left did none of those things with respect to Tara Reade.
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Okay, Jill, you're saying, you know, we just have to assume that what the woman is saying is true.
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Okay, well, are you assuming that what Tara Reade said is true?
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They most certainly did not assume that what Tara Reade is saying is true.
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In fact, from day one, well, actually from day one, from day one to about day 40, they just ignored her.
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And then finally, when they were forced to acknowledge her existence, they set to work immediately to discredit and destroy her.
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Some of the stuff that's come out about Tara Reade is relatively damning.
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I've said all along that my immediate reaction is to doubt anyone who comes with an accusation years later and during a political campaign or a Senate confirmation hearing.
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Anyone who comes along decades later, when the accused person is in the news for whatever reason, a prominent figure.
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And now they decide to come out and say, oh, by the way, that person raped me 30 years ago.
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Anytime someone does that, anytime, my immediate reaction is to doubt, is to be skeptical.
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It's just I'm going to have a lot of skepticism.
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And I'm allowed to have that attitude because I never said believe all women or believe women.
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I've said all along that we should believe a woman if there is good reason to.
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I think the circumstances of this accusation, like the circumstances of Ford's accusation, are already good enough reason to be skeptical.
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If a man abuses you and you want to accuse him publicly, maybe do it sometime within 30 years.
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And if you're going to do it, don't wait until a presidential campaign or a Supreme Court nomination to come out and say, by the way.
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Yeah, I mean, if you're abused or assaulted or something by a man, you have every right to come out and you should come out and say it.
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But again, I can take this approach consistently because I've always said this.
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It's the left, people like Jill and the writer of this Times piece and the rest of them, who have said many, many, many, many, many times that waiting years to accuse someone is not an indication that a story is false.
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And that other examples of a woman being untrustworthy or, you know, manipulative don't mean that she's lying about this particular thing.
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And they've said many, many, many times that inconsistencies in a story don't mean the story isn't true.
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Holes in the story don't mean the story isn't true.
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They've said many times, especially about Christine Ford, none of that stuff matters.
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Only now they abandon it wholesale and pretend like they never said any of it.
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Because they are, again, lying, shameless, vile hypocrites.
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And, you know, the fourth thing, you know, just you find, again, feminists so desperate to be victims that now they're basically claiming to be victims of themselves.
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You know, what was the subhead of this article?
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It said how feminists got stuck answering for a canard.
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Yeah, they got stuck answering for a canard they came up with.
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If you come up with a canard, you've got to answer for it.
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In other words, you're answering for your own words the standards that you set.
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And so feminists set these standards, and now we're turning around and saying, what about your standards?
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The moment they, you know, the moment anyone asks them to be consistent.
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I said I had to rant and rave, so there was my rant and rave.
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Number one, as we emerge back into society and out of hibernation, some companies and some people are going to rather ridiculous lengths, I think, in an attempt to protect themselves from the virus.
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And I'm all about, you know, I don't hold it against anybody for taking precautions and being careful.
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Here's a cafe that, this is in Germany, actually, a cafe that requires diners to wear pool noodles on their head for social distancing.
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That's what, I mean, you've got grown adults sitting at a cafe with pool noodles hanging off their head.
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And the idea is, you know, that's going to give you the social distancing because if your pool noodle comes within, you know, it touches another person, then you know that you're too close.
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And so just don't come within six feet of another person.
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And then here's a bar in Maryland that has a, here's the image of it.
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Maryland has customers in these big inner tube things on wheels.
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And this is supposed to enforce social distancing.
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It doesn't say what bar it is, but it looks like a bar in Ocean City, Maryland.
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I guarantee, this is what I can tell you, okay, based on my experience in that environment.
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I guarantee you all of those things there will be destroyed in a week from drunk people playing bumper cars in them.
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I give that one week before all of those things are destroyed.
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I think about 75% of them will be destroyed from bumper cars.
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Then you're going to have about 25% that go missing because drunk people steal them and then jump into the ocean with them.
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I'm just, I'm trying to imagine myself at 22 in Ocean City, Friday night, go to a bar, and they give you one of those.
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I would have loved it, but not for the reasons that the bar intends.
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Right now, today, as a grown man with four kids, if you gave me one of those, I would be running around doing bumper cars.
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This is just the saddest thing I've maybe ever seen.
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But her great-grandchildren never saw Nana quite like this.
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Of no hugs, 85-year-old Rose Gagnon finally got to wrap her arms around her kitties.
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I wanted to cry because I couldn't believe that this was happening.
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So Rose's adult granddaughter, Carly Marinero of Rockford, Illinois, got to work.
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For under 50 bucks, she built Hug Time using PVC piping, plastic, and tape.
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Yes, because having a bunch of people press their faces up against plastic, having a bunch
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of people in succession press their face up against plastic, that's a lot more sanitary
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If I made a contraption like that so that my parents could hug their grandkids, they would
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And then they would walk right around it and hug their grandkids like normal human beings.
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So not only are these measures pointless and counterproductive and less safe and less healthy,
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A man, a grown man does not wear a pool noodle on his head.
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Or walk around in a big inner tube like a toddler and a Fisher-Price walker.
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And I can't imagine that any grandparent wants to wrap themselves in saran wrap before hugging
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If you told me that the only way for me to avoid coronavirus is to, you know, is to wrap
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myself in saran wrap like that thing or walk around in the toddler walker thing, I would
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say, you know, I'd rather have coronavirus, honestly.
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I don't want coronavirus, but if this is the only way to avoid it, I'll just take the
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And I'm, and you know, that's, that's also important to me as a human being.
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Number two, this got a lot of attention yesterday.
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What's your reaction to the president saying that he's now taking hydroxychloroquine?
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Well, first let me say how happy I am about your new baby.
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Uh, we all know why that is and congratulations.
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And as you, as you know, our father, you see how important it is to keep the world safe for
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As far as the president is concerned, um, the, uh, our, he's our president and I would
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rather he not be taking something that has not been approved, uh, by the scientists, especially
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in his age group and in his, shall we say weight group, but he's morbidly obese, they say.
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Um, so I, I, uh, I, uh, I, I think it was, it's not a good idea.
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Um, I'm sorry, unpopular opinion here, probably unpopular, at least on the right.
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The, the morbid obesity comment, the delivery, great stuff from Pelosi.
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In fact, that's probably the first time and last time that I have ever said, or will ever
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Um, but some folks on the right have been upset about this.
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Uh, they, you know, getting offended on Trump's behalf and everything.
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Trump, Trump insults everyone always, all the time.
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It's, it's practically the reason he was elected.
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If you dish it, you're going to have to take it.
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Um, you, you can't sit there and cackle every time Trump insults someone and then go, why
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I, I never, whenever someone dishes it back to him, you just, you can't do that.
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Now, I know the claim from people on the right is that this is a double standard because,
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And I thought we're supposed to celebrate obese people and, and, and, uh, and, and tell,
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So shouldn't she be saying that Donald Trump is a, is a big fat, glorious, beautiful man?
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And shouldn't, shouldn't, isn't, shouldn't that be what she's saying?
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But there's also, when it comes to Trump, clearly, let's be honest with each other.
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There are a number of rather glaring double standards when it comes to how we approach
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And one of them is this, that he, the guy just says whatever he wants to anybody.
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And, uh, if he ever gets it back, if anyone ever insults him back, then he, along with
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people on the right, will, you know, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll, they'll claim they're
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not offended, but they are definitely acting offended.
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How dare you say that about the, about our president?
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This is what political discourse has become in America.
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It's two groups of people with glaring double standards, accusing each other of having glaring
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Number three, I'll give you just the headline here.
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It says some grocery workers scared to death to return to work.
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And I tell you about that headline because we're going to see a lot of headlines like this.
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We already have, we're going to see more, um, the media in its last ditch effort to keep
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As I've been saying, you know, all along that if, if a grocery worker is scared to
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death to return, I don't think there is any reason to be scared to death.
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In fact, this is one of the rather conspicuous elements of, of, of, of the whole situation
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that we've got these quote unquote essential workers like at grocery stores and Walmart and
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Target and everything that have been working this whole time, not just working, but have
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been dealing with hordes and crowds of people every day, all day, uh, and only recently started
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And yet there has not been a, you know, uh, we, we have not seen grocery store workers and
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quote unquote essential workers dropping like flies left and right.
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Uh, it, it, it hasn't been a bloodbath of, of essential workers dying from the virus from
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But based on the way this was portrayed, that's what you would have expected.
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And it hasn't happened, which I think tells us something.
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And it also tells us that if you're, you know, if you work at a grocery store, there's probably
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Um, that's what recent history would tell us, but regardless, you know, if you're scared
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Um, I'm, I, I do not believe that we should force anyone.
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I am not in favor of, and I don't think anyone else is.
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I haven't heard anyone suggest that we should send guys in to homes, like send, send, uh,
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cops into people's homes to drag them out and drag them to work.
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The only thing I would add though, in my opinion, if you are a physically capable person who
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is not in one of these, um, particularly vulnerable groups and you choose not to go to work because
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You have every right, but I don't think we should continue to support you.
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If you want to choose to stay home, we're not going to pay you to hang out on your couch
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The governor of New Jersey, this isn't the positive part.
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And he's, in fact, he said yesterday that he wants to keep the state locked up.
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He said we, that the state will not return to normal until there's a vaccine.
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So, um, fortunately, many of his residents, many residents of the state are ignoring him
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And they're continuing with their lives, which is good.
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A gym in the state opened up yesterday in violation of the governor's dictates.
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You think you know where this is going to go, but then it takes a sudden right turn.
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We are and we're only here for everybody's safety today.
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And it seems like that's what we have out here today.
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Normally, you are all in violation of the executive order.
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And we've seen this from some cops, even from the very beginning, which I which I'm very
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But it also puts into relief the, you know, the police officers who have been enforcing
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these draconian laws and arresting people for not social distancing or whatever, not wearing
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And the excuse for them is they're just following orders.
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Well, the excuse doesn't hold because you see these other very good police officers who
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That's that is an order I'm not going to follow.
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I'm not going to round a bunch of people up and haul them off to jail for going to the
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Finally, speaking of embarrassing coronavirus things, I forgot.
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A new invention that allows you to wear a mask while eating.
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And you see there's a hole there in the mask that opens up so you can eat while wearing
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So isn't this kind of like making a bicycle helmet that has a big, a big, huge hole in
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the back of the head area in case you have to scratch your head?
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Just another, you know, when you see, when you see that kind of thing, if you're wearing
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a mask with a hole in it, then it really is just sort of about virtue signaling, isn't
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Now, I'm not one of those people that says that everyone out wearing a mask is virtue signaling.
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They may be wearing a mask because they have to.
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If they want to go to the store, they may be wearing a mask because they're in, you know,
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You know, you don't know what their situation is.
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We got emails in a second that I want to have time for.
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So we'll do this quickly for our daily cancellation.
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We're going to be canceling the United Nations.
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This is the one I'm choosing because it's the one that popped up yesterday.
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Help create a more equal world by using gender neutral language if you're unsure about someone's
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And then we get the guide here with the UN instructing us on how we are to speak from
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It says, if you don't know someone's gender or when talking about a group, use gender
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And then it gives us the old, barbaric, primitive way of saying it and then the new enlightened
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Instead of boyfriend or girlfriend, we say partner.
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My idea is, why don't we just continue saying whatever we want to say and using normal words?
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And why don't we just not care at all about the fragile feelings of anybody stupid enough to be offended by it?
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If you're the kind of person who would actually feel in any way upset, even if you don't say it,
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if there's any part of your brain that hears the word mankind and feels a little bit upset by that,
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I don't mean, you're totally traumatized by it.
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You collapse into the fetal position on the floor.
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I will laugh at you and step over you and keep walking while saying exactly what I want to say.
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Also, by the way, you idiots, human has the word man in it.
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So you put the hue in front of it and then it's okay.
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In fact, look at this graphic from the UN that we had up on the screen here.
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You better come up with a different name for women.
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And what's the problem with boyfriend or girlfriend?
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But I always cringe a little bit when people say partner.
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I mean, it makes it sound like, you know, it's like someone you work in a law firm with or something.
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But use whatever words you want because that's your affair, not mine.
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So, the UN is canceled for that reason and for so many others.
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And you can always email the show by having access to the mailbag if you're a Daily Wire member.
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Probably the greatest perk that you get is you get to send me an email.
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Robbie says, Matt, I'm not going to bother debating the trans issue with you because I doubt there's anything anyone can say to change your mind at this point.
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Instead, my question is, why do you care so much?
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Isn't that what you've been preaching with the shutdown?
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I genuinely agree with you on a lot, but I don't get your obsession with this issue.
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It doesn't hurt me if someone wants to say they're a woman or whatever.
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But I'll let them live their lives, and I think you should do the same.
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So, I have to tell you, and I don't mean any offense to this, but this is one of the dumbest and most pointless and boring responses a person can give to any issue.
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You have a lot of dumb, boring company in saying this, if that makes you feel better.
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Well, first of all, why do you care that I care so much?
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Then you can ask why I care that you care that I care.
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And I can ask why you care that I care that you care that I care.
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And you can say, why do you care that I care that you care that I care?
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And we can go back, et cetera, et cetera, unto infinity.
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Or maybe we could just skip that whole rigmarole and leave it at the fact that I care about this issue for the same reason that I care about anything else.
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Because I'm a human being with a brain, and my brain forms ideas, okay?
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Someone is sharing their opinion about anything.
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I just, because I'm a person and I have an opinion, here it is.
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See, I'm all about letting people live their lives, okay?
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The problem is that that's the exact opposite of what the LGBT camp does.
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They're the last ones that are interested in letting people live their lives.
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They are literally trying to control the language that we use.
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They're trying to force us to not only accept, but affirm and promote anti-scientific nonsense.
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They want us all to deny science, to deny biology, to deny common sense.
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I demand that you affirm that two plus two equals five.
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And I want you to say that, not just to me, not just when you're around me, but anywhere.
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For the rest of your life, I demand that you pretend that two plus two equals five.
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Why do you care so much, you freak, you weirdo?
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Now, you say that it doesn't hurt you if somebody wants to live as a woman.
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That just tells me, though, that you aren't a teenage girl with a boy
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burging into your locker room or onto your track team
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and stealing all of your medals and your achievements.
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Being deprived of privacy, being deprived of the achievements that you've worked for.
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That particular part of it doesn't hurt me because I'm not a teenage girl either.
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Although, according to the left, I could be if I wanted to be.
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So it doesn't affect me, but I actually care about people who aren't me.
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Only caring about the stuff that affects you personally, do you know what that's called?
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This is one of the problems I have with libertarianism, with the attitude of,
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That's just very thinly veiled narcissism, where you're claiming that only the things
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that directly affect you should you care about.
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It also doesn't really affect me that people are starving in Ethiopia.
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So basically, your charge against me is that I'm not a narcissist.
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If a guy wants to go around claiming that he's a woman, fine.
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If he wants to claim that he's Cleopatra, fine.
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But if he demands that I affirm it, now we have a problem.
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If he tries to change the English language to support his delusion, now we have a problem.
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If he tries to change school curriculum to indoctrinate kids into his fantasy, now we have a problem.
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If he in any way tries to impose his falsehood on anyone, doesn't have to be me, but any other person,
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And I'm going to have something to say about it.
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