The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 492 - The War On Religious Liberty Continues

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, states are beginning to reopen, but churches are still being unfairly

00:00:05.200 and, more importantly, unconstitutionally targeted for extra restrictions that make no sense at all.

00:00:10.960 Some churches are finally stepping up to defy these restrictions, but what took so long is

00:00:16.020 the question. Also, five headlines including CNN continuing to beclown itself, what else is new,

00:00:21.420 and in our daily cancellation, we will cancel the designers and manufacturers of a hospital bed

00:00:28.140 that doubles as a coffin. Yes, I'm not making that up. We'll get to all that on the show today,

00:00:34.740 but we start here, and it's about time we start to see this. In Minnesota, a number of churches,

00:00:39.620 Catholic churches mainly, but also Lutheran churches, some other churches, are going to open up

00:00:43.920 in defiance of the directives from their state's emperor, Tim Waltz. Now, opening up in general is

00:00:52.900 not the act of defiance. Technically, they're allowed to open. They have been magnanimously,

00:00:59.860 generously given permission to open by the emperor, but the defiance is because they're opening at 33%

00:01:06.380 capacity. At least that's what the Catholic churches are doing, which is quite a bit more

00:01:12.380 than the 10-person limit that Emperor Waltz has decreed. Emperor Waltz has said, if you're a church,

00:01:19.960 you're only allowed to have 10 people at a time. Here's the crucial point. The emperor is allowing

00:01:26.160 retail shops and malls and other stores like that to open at 50% capacity. Restaurants are allowed to

00:01:36.160 have 50 people in their outdoor seating area. Churches, though, can only have 10. Okay, now try to make

00:01:44.680 sense of this for me, if you can, because I can't quite understand it. Most churches are quite a bit

00:01:51.000 bigger than restaurants, and many churches are as big or bigger than big box retailers or even malls,

00:01:59.160 but they can only have 10 people. So what? Is the social distancing rule for churches now like 60 feet

00:02:06.320 between people instead of six? Have they multiplied it by 10? It doesn't make any sense, unless you take it

00:02:12.460 for what it is, which is an assault on religious liberty. And that, in fact, is what this has been

00:02:18.640 from the very beginning, not just in Minnesota, but across the country. Now, we have to understand

00:02:22.700 something. In order for this to be an assault on religious liberty, it doesn't have to be that

00:02:29.700 governors are plotting against churches as part of some kind of anti-religious scheme. Now, I think

00:02:36.460 there probably is an element of that in a lot of these states, but I think that's not really the

00:02:43.480 point. What this is, I think, in most cases, is governors who subjectively, because he or she is not

00:02:49.780 religious, just doesn't think that churches are that important or essential, as they say now. And so these

00:02:58.480 governors don't think it's worth the risk to have people go to church. They just don't understand why, from

00:03:03.560 their perspective, and this is, this is, they've been very clear about this all along, from their

00:03:08.200 perspective, it's, it's like, why would you even want to go to church in the first place? Why would you want

00:03:12.880 to risk anything to go to church? So I'm doing you people a favor. I, as the emperor of the state, as the

00:03:20.580 governor turned emperor, I, I don't see why anybody would want to go to church. It's not important to me, and so

00:03:25.500 why, why should it be open? Now, Walmart, okay, that's worth the risk. I can understand, as a, as a, as a

00:03:33.160 consumerist myself, I can understand why you would risk it to go to Walmart, or Best Buy, or even Outback

00:03:39.500 Steakhouse. Sure, to get the Bloomin' Onions. Okay, you're gonna, you're gonna risk it for that. But

00:03:44.760 for church, no. Who, who, who needs churches? That's the attitude, I think. And it amounts to

00:03:52.360 politicians closing churches and keeping them closed on the basis of their own opinion of churches and

00:03:58.860 religion. And that is clearly unconstitutional. That is clearly an attack on religious liberty.

00:04:06.100 And it has been, as I said, from the very beginning. We'll have more about this in just a

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00:05:26.460 Go there now. Okay. You know, the other thing to keep in mind, though, when we talk about the church

00:05:34.840 issue, we talk about this idea of essential versus non-essential. The point about religion is whether

00:05:42.860 you think that religious worship itself is an essential activity, and I believe that it is.

00:05:50.560 But whether you do or not, the point is that the right is essential. It is an essential right.

00:05:58.300 Essential in the deeper sense of the word, not essential like important. And that's what we,

00:06:06.400 when this word essential has been tossed around so much, and places have been shut down or allowed

00:06:11.100 to stay open based on it, it always just means essential as in important. Important to whom?

00:06:17.360 Well, according to the governor, it's important to us, but really it's important to him. And so he's

00:06:22.700 the one deciding. But that's not what we're talking about. There's a deeper sense of the word

00:06:28.820 essential. Essential doesn't just mean important. It means inherent to our nature. So the right to

00:06:36.240 practice our religion is essential in that it's inherent to our nature. And that's what it says

00:06:43.800 in so many words in the First Amendment. And that's what our founding fathers believed. And that's the

00:06:48.900 idea that our country was founded upon. We have allowed over these past two months the government

00:06:54.960 government to redefine religious liberty as non-essential, which is another way of saying

00:07:01.520 we've allowed them to define it out of existence. Because if a right is not essential, then it isn't

00:07:09.840 inherent. And if a right is not inherent, then it doesn't exist. That's what human rights are. They're

00:07:15.320 essential to our nature. If they're not essential to our nature, then we don't have them. It's not,

00:07:19.060 then it's at best a privilege. And that's indeed how these tinpot dictators and governor's mansions 0.97

00:07:26.820 see religious liberty. And that's how they want us to see it. Now, churches in Minnesota are finally

00:07:33.600 stepping up and saying, enough. No, we're not going to go along with this. We are going to exercise our

00:07:38.120 rights with or without your approval, because your approval is irrelevant. You know, they're saying,

00:07:46.240 we're going to open up the way that we think is safe. Because it's not like we're a bunch of

00:07:51.960 suicidal nihilists, quite the opposite. We're not trying to get anybody hurt. But we think people

00:07:57.480 have a right to worship and they need to. It is essential. And so we're going to open up. We're

00:08:01.300 going to do it in a safe way. But we are going to decide what is safe. We don't need a bureaucrat or

00:08:07.180 politician to tell us the safe way to do it. We'll decide. That's what the bishops in Minnesota are

00:08:13.800 saying. That's what churches are saying. The question, though, is whether it's too late.

00:08:18.140 Has the damage already been done? The fact is that churches all across America, with few exceptions,

00:08:22.700 obeyed, allowed themselves to be closed, submitted to a ban on public worship. Think about that.

00:08:30.340 Okay, a ban on public worship. Let's not get to the point where we're so used to the idea that it

00:08:35.080 doesn't shock us anymore. It should shock you. Even after two months, it should shock you.

00:08:40.100 There was, and still is, in this country, a ban on public worship in America, in a country that was 0.94

00:08:47.780 literally founded to escape that sort of tyranny. And churches, most of them went along with it.

00:08:56.940 Now they're not. Good. Why did they ever, is the question.

00:09:02.080 From what I've read, and some of the emails I've gotten, a lot of police departments, sheriff

00:09:09.680 departments around Minnesota are saying they're not going to enforce this. So these churches,

00:09:15.400 they are not going to go into churches and start hauling people away in cuffs. They're just not

00:09:21.300 going to do it. They're going to refuse to. Well, you know, and if they don't, which I think they will

00:09:27.960 refuse to, because what, what, what are they really going to, if you've got churches all across

00:09:32.500 Minnesota open, um, are they really going to march into hundreds of churches and start hauling people

00:09:39.700 away in chains? No, they're not going to do that. They were never going to do that.

00:09:46.420 So you call their bluff successfully. Could have done it from the beginning.

00:09:50.360 What's going to happen now? I'll tell you this is eventually we can, we can look to the horizon

00:09:58.360 and we can see, um, one of the most important Supreme court cases that, that will be before

00:10:05.520 the court in the next few years. And that's going to be, be a case about, you know, centered around

00:10:10.920 this idea of whether or not the government has the authority to define, um, religious worship

00:10:18.260 as non-essential and depending on who wins in 2020 and depending on what happens, you know, I, I don't

00:10:24.140 have a lot of confidence that they're going to come down on the right side of that. I mean, imagine

00:10:30.100 the Supreme court, depending on what its makeup is by the time a few years from now, by the time this,

00:10:35.180 this, this, a case like this appears before them, uh, imagine the Supreme court actually codifies

00:10:40.480 into law and says, yeah, you know what? Religious worship is not essential. Imagine the ramifications of

00:10:47.060 that virus or no virus pandemic or no pandemic. That's, that's essentially the end of religious

00:10:54.140 liberty in America. Okay. Let's go to, um, headlines. Number one, pretty big news here, folks. Joe Biden

00:11:02.900 has finally come up with a nickname for president Trump speaking to the Asian American and Pacific

00:11:09.940 Islander victory funds, uh, progressive summit. That's what it is. Biden said, Trump is out there

00:11:15.580 tweeting again this morning. I call him president Tweety. Yeah. See, this one is disappointing for me

00:11:23.360 personally from Biden. I was expecting something a little bit more old timey, maybe like Donald the

00:11:30.620 dunderhead, you know, something like that. I just, I don't think president Tweety lives up to the 0.94

00:11:35.840 expectations that I, that I had. And by the way, Trump's nickname for Biden, sleepy Joe is, is also

00:11:41.980 super lame. Creepy Joe. This is one of the biggest missed opportunities in, in modern politics. You go 0.91

00:11:51.760 with sleepy Joe rather than creepy Joe. It's it, the two words rhyme. Creepy is a lot. You know, when you

00:12:02.280 think of Joe Biden, do you think, Oh, that guy's super sleepy. What a sleepy guy that he is. No, you think

00:12:09.060 that guy's creepy. That's a, that's a weird, creepy dude. I mean, even, you know, even senile Joe would

00:12:15.340 work. I mean, something like that. I just think sleepy doesn't, doesn't work perhaps more to the

00:12:19.280 point though. Um, even, even aside from all that, we, we, we, we should remember that these men are in

00:12:25.500 their seventies. Okay. Uh, Brock, Brock, Donald Trump is what? 74, something like that. 73, 74. Um,

00:12:32.720 Joe Biden is 78. We'll be 79. And this is what they're reduced to. You're a sleepy Joe. No, I'm

00:12:42.060 not. You're, you're president Tweety. I'm telling dad, we live in the dumbest time folks. We really do

00:12:50.620 the dumbest time. And let me just say one other thing about this. Lest you accuse me of being 0.98

00:12:57.120 offended or scandalized by the insults? I'm not at all. I have no problem with, with politicians

00:13:04.380 insulting each other. Let me be very clear about that. They all deserve, all politicians deserve to

00:13:09.500 be insulted. So it's good that they're providing this service to each other. I'm a big fan of that.

00:13:14.080 I'm a big fan of politicians being insulted. I think that's one of the things that they're there

00:13:18.100 for. Um, and so if they're insulting each other, um, I love it. I'm on board with that.

00:13:22.960 It's just, and yes, politicians have always been vicious to each other. I'm fine with that too.

00:13:28.500 They were quite a bit more vicious back in the day. In fact, my problem is that politicians these

00:13:32.880 days are simpletons who, who, who insult each other like children, like sixth graders. Now back in the 0.65

00:13:38.740 day, they were at least articulate and eloquent and creative about it. Look at some of the insults

00:13:47.320 that, that, uh, Teddy Roosevelt used to throw around. Okay. Now there was a man who knew how to

00:13:52.280 insult people. A few of my favorites. Um, he said, I think it was about a, uh, uh, an author. He said

00:13:58.140 that, uh, he called him a, a little emasculated mass of inanity. Okay. That's a good one. Infernal

00:14:05.000 skunk. Another good one. Well-meaning pinheaded anarchistic crank. Those are insults. Okay. These

00:14:13.640 amateurs nowadays wouldn't know what hit him if old Teddy showed up with his, uh, insult cannons loaded.

00:14:20.740 All right. Number two, famously, um, infamously, I guess I should say part of the coronavirus

00:14:25.840 stimulus bill was this enhanced unemployment measure that gave people an extra, what was

00:14:31.500 it? 600 bucks a month or a week, actually extra $600 a week. People were getting, are getting

00:14:37.060 unemployment during the coronavirus. Um, the big problem is that now people aren't going back to

00:14:44.080 work because they can make more on unemployment. And I have heard this specifically from business

00:14:49.120 owners many times that they're having trouble hiring people back. Think about that. Imagine

00:14:55.020 it 35 million people unemployed and some business owners are having trouble hiring people, you know,

00:15:04.000 um, because these, there are a lot of people who can make more on unemployment. So just a spectacularly

00:15:10.960 stupid measure from the government. Once again, trying to save the economy by incentivizing unemployment, 1.00

00:15:16.820 brilliant plan. Well, cocaine, Mitch, Mitch McConnell is getting, uh, getting heat today

00:15:21.400 because he has pledged to end this incentive and he's right to do so. You know, he's saying

00:15:26.680 on the next, uh, stimulus bill, there's, this isn't, this isn't going to be in there. This

00:15:30.220 is going away. Um, and that's, that's the right thing. It's very easy to say, Oh, you mean

00:15:34.480 man trying to take money away from unemployed people. Businesses need workers, people, and people

00:15:39.280 need to work. We aren't going to have an economic recovery. If we're literally paying people

00:15:44.400 to sit at home, that's not how you re spark, restart the engine of the economy. So it's

00:15:51.880 time to end this madness. And once again, that is not to say that people should be forced

00:15:57.060 to go back to work. Don't accuse me of saying that we should force people to go back to work.

00:16:00.980 I don't believe that. All I'm saying is that they shouldn't be paid to not work. That's the

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00:18:17.040 you this, uh, the story first, and then I'll show you the picture. A man named Dustin Matthew

00:18:22.840 Sneed age 30 was arrested for setting his grandmother's living room on fire with two

00:18:29.380 dogs inside. Now the dogs escaped and were fine. Grandmother was fine. Everybody's fine. The

00:18:34.660 living room was not so fine. Um, but that's the story. And now here's the, uh, here it is. Here's

00:18:39.800 the mugshot. Here's, there he is. Dustin Matthew Sneed right there. You know, I got to say, I didn't

00:18:46.620 think that sets grandma's living room on fire was a look, but apparently it is because that's 0.90

00:18:52.700 it. That's the look. Like if you went to hot topic and said, I want to look like someone

00:18:58.080 who sets my grandmother's house on fire. That's what they would hook you up with. As if hot 0.62

00:19:03.340 topic has professional stylists on staff. I don't know. I don't, I don't know if it works. I haven't

00:19:06.860 been there in a while because of the shutdown. I mean, usually that's where I do all my shopping

00:19:10.280 anyway. Uh, so, so there it is. I mean, I guess the good news is though, if, if you're

00:19:16.420 a parent and your son looks like that and he's 30 years old and so far, the worst thing 0.98

00:19:26.060 he's done is set your mother's house on fire. You'd be pretty relieved. I think actually,

00:19:31.960 assuming that's the worst thing he's done based on where the bar is set. Right? Like when,

00:19:38.800 when the cops finally show up at your house and say, sir, your son. And as soon as you

00:19:44.780 hear that, you're thinking, Oh my God, here we go. Here it goes. And then he finishes it

00:19:49.660 with your son set your mother's house on fire. I think your reaction would almost be relief.

00:19:55.780 You would say, that's it. Wow. Okay. Well good. I mean, not good. It's not good, but just,

00:20:01.400 I, I, I didn't know where this was going. So, all right. Um, number four, let's take a look

00:20:07.960 at a bright stop, bright spot. That is some positive news. This is a governor, Ron DeSantis

00:20:12.960 of Florida. And I do call him governor. He's, he's one who is still governor, not emperor.

00:20:18.400 He hasn't been acting like an emperor. He's been acting like a governor who actually cares

00:20:21.560 about governing and not controlling. Imagine that. Well, he's been blasted by the media

00:20:26.600 relentlessly for months. And why? For the crime of doing a great job dealing with the coronavirus.

00:20:32.640 You know, he's, he's done one of the best jobs, if not the best job in the entire country.

00:20:35.560 And for that, he's been blasted by the media. Finally, he, uh, stood up for himself in front

00:20:40.140 of the media and let the media have it. And, uh, this is just great stuff. Watch.

00:20:45.420 Our data is available. Our data is transparent. In fact, Dr. Birx has talked multiple times

00:20:51.900 about how Florida has the absolute best data. So any insinuation otherwise is just typical

00:20:59.080 partisan narrative trying to be spun. And part of the reason is that because you got a lot of people,

00:21:05.560 your profession who waxed poetically for weeks and weeks about how Florida was going to be

00:21:10.820 just like New York, wait two weeks, Florida is going to be next, just like Italy, wait

00:21:15.280 two weeks. Well, hell, we're eight weeks away from that. And it hasn't happened. Not only

00:21:19.660 do we have a lower death rate, well, we have way lower deaths. Generally, we have a lower

00:21:23.520 death rate than the Acela corridor, DC, everyone up there. We have a lower rate death rate than

00:21:27.940 the Midwest, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio. But even in our region, Louisiana, Mississippi,

00:21:34.540 Alabama, Georgia, Florida has the lower death rate. And I was the number one landing spot

00:21:40.880 from tens of thousands of people leaving the number one hot zone in the world to come to my state. So

00:21:47.100 we've succeeded. And I think that people just don't want to recognize it because it challenges their

00:21:53.100 narrative. It challenges their assumption. So they got to try to find a boogeyman. Maybe it's

00:21:58.340 that they're a black helicopter circling the Department of Health. If you believe that I got

00:22:03.480 a bridge in Brooklyn, I'd like to sell you. Glorious, absolutely glorious. And everything

00:22:08.040 you said there, 100% true. I loved every second of that. Number five, finally, as we have covered

00:22:14.080 extensively on the show, and we just talked about Governor DeSantis, he's done one of the best

00:22:17.720 jobs. Governor Cuomo of New York, despite being hailed by the media as the coronavirus

00:22:23.280 slayer, the corona slayer, he has done by far the worst job of any governor. And not just because

00:22:31.960 he's had the most deaths, although he has by a mile, but because he's directly responsible for

00:22:36.520 the deaths of thousands of elderly people in nursing homes, because he forcibly introduced the

00:22:41.160 infection into nursing homes by mandating that nursing homes accept coronavirus patients. Many,

00:22:45.500 many, many people died as a result of that, as a direct result of that. Now, in spite of this,

00:22:51.680 rather than grilling Cuomo and getting answers, CNN has him on all the time for these cutesy little

00:22:58.660 chat sessions with his younger brother, Chris. And yesterday, the cutesiness entered a terminal stage.

00:23:05.340 Watch this. You had video come out before we go to break where you wanted to encourage people to

00:23:11.180 get tested and some people are afraid it's going to hurt. So you had video of it that I want to show

00:23:16.280 the audience of you actually getting tested. Here it is. There's you. You were kind of funny and they

00:23:23.160 were testing you. Now, a few questions about this process. First of all, is it true that when you were

00:23:30.480 having the test administered, you inhaled and the doctor's finger went all the way up your nose and got

00:23:36.920 stuck and had to be released with a tool. Is that true? Just to just to deal with the record.

00:23:42.340 No, she, she, she wanted to comment that I have a little button nose and she was afraid that the swab

00:23:50.320 would actually hurt because it, it extended my, uh, nasal cavity. The proboscis issue.

00:23:57.600 Speaking about the delicacy of the nose. And that's what, you know what, I understand. This is the normal

00:24:02.240 swab I'm holding up here now. And for everybody at home, a very valuable object. There's only one

00:24:07.980 company in the entire country that makes these up in Maine. All right. Here's the swab. Is it true

00:24:13.200 that this was the swab that the nurse was actually using on you? Okay. Stop. Just, just, just, just,

00:24:21.360 just stop. I can't even, I can't watch anymore. Okay. The joke is that the Q-tips keep getting bigger.

00:24:26.740 You get it? Cause he's got a big nose and the bit goes on for a while longer. We keep getting bigger

00:24:30.900 and bigger Q-tips. Hilarious stuff, right? Little, little comedy bit. This is a new show.

00:24:36.320 This is a news anchor, allegedly talking to a politician who was at the center of a deadly

00:24:42.100 scandal. And this is what we get. A two minute routine on his big nose.

00:24:51.880 Really embarrassing for CNN. And as I said before, just imagine the reaction.

00:24:57.260 If, um, if, um, you know, Fox news gave Don jr. Uh, you know, uh, some time, some segments to

00:25:08.520 interview his dad, you know, once a week. And, and they have these kinds of little back and forth

00:25:14.480 things. Do you, do you think that people on the left and the media would, would say, oh,

00:25:19.780 isn't that so nice and so relatable? No. They would say, this is an assault on journalism. It's

00:25:26.040 the death of journalism. Democracy dies in darkness, blah, blah, blah. So on and so forth.

00:25:30.980 And they'd be right in a way. And we're right in pointing that out about CNN right now. Okay.

00:25:39.740 Let's move on to our daily cancellation and canceled today are the makers of this bed that I'll show you

00:25:45.800 in a second. According to the telegraph, a factory in Columbia is making hospital beds that can be

00:25:50.720 turned into a coffin. If the patient dies, not a joke. As far as I know, they, they have a video.

00:25:58.520 Let's, uh, let's watch the video together. So it says a Colombian designer design company are making

00:26:04.080 hospital cardboard, hospital beds. You see the person there in the, that can be easily turned

00:26:11.620 into a coffin. If the patient dies. Oh my gosh. This is horrifying. Now that's, that's not a real

00:26:20.000 dead person there. I don't think. So she's just modeling it for us. And it's literally a cardboard

00:26:25.100 box. Okay. These cardboard beds are made for people with coronavirus. Oh, isn't that nice?

00:26:30.600 Isn't that thoughtful? And they just put a lid, they put a cardboard lid on the top of it.

00:26:35.000 That's it's just, it's like a, it's a refrigerator box. They invented a refrigerator box that they're

00:26:41.340 putting dead people in. Okay. And there's a design process there. What must these people

00:26:46.480 do? What are the people at the factory making this? What are they thinking right now? That's

00:26:50.600 my question. Hospital beds and coffins are in short supply. So, all right. So you just combine

00:26:57.660 them. Okay. There you go. Um, all I can say is it's gotta be a bad sign when they transfer you

00:27:07.280 into that bed. I can just imagine the doctor coming in, looking at my chart and then saying,

00:27:13.740 okay, Mr. Walsh, everyone, everything's looking, uh, fine for now. Tell you what, we're just going

00:27:19.780 to move you into this bed over here. Don't worry. Nothing to be concerned about. We won't put the lid on

00:27:24.080 yet. And besides, don't the families take charge of the bodies for the burial? Isn't that like

00:27:31.180 usually how this works? Is, is the family going to want to bury their loved one in the cardboard box

00:27:37.780 they died in? I can't, ma'am, I regret to inform you that your husband has died. Now, would you like

00:27:45.980 him in our to-go box or did you bring your own? It's not, you know, I'm, I'm not laughing about it.

00:27:51.000 It's very serious. And, uh, actually it's inspired me because convenience is everything, right? So

00:27:56.160 I've invented, I have come up with a prototype. Uh, it's a recliner for your home, you know, like

00:28:02.800 a lazy boy, but it doubles as an electric chair in case you ever become a convicted murderer.

00:28:09.200 And then no need to go through the whole rigmarole of the death, death row and everything. They just, 0.92

00:28:13.360 you know, you're sitting in the chair, they just flip a switch and, uh, and that's it. And then they

00:28:18.340 can put you in the cardboard box. So it's a kind of like a product tie-in that's marketing for you.

00:28:24.220 Uh, this is getting pretty grim. I apologize. Anyway. Um, so the people who came up with that

00:28:27.960 are canceled for obvious reasons, pretty horrifying. Let's move on to emails and you can

00:28:34.200 always email the show by becoming a daily wire member. Um, and you get access to the mailbag as

00:28:38.100 well as many other perks. This is from Kelly says, Hey Matt, I was listening to your show yesterday

00:28:42.860 about drag story hour at public libraries. It made me wonder what you think these same parents

00:28:47.940 who take their kids to these would think if they happen to see a Bible study hour with a bishop or

00:28:53.240 priest reading the children. I feel like I know the answer. I just like to hear you rant about how

00:28:57.600 crazy leftists are. Thanks for the great show. Uh, well, right, Kelly, the answer, and it's a good 0.99

00:29:01.880 point, but the answer is exactly what you think the answer is. In fact, these same people would not

00:29:08.220 only object, but invariably they would claim that that's a violation of church and state

00:29:12.900 of the separation of church and state because libraries are quasi government facilities and

00:29:21.060 maybe they'd have a point, you know? Um, I don't know. I, I don't think they would. I think it'd be

00:29:26.700 fine, but, but there would be an argument at least. And that's why I would say that drag queen story 1.00

00:29:32.580 hour is the same kind of thing as a separation of church and state. You know, just because

00:29:40.340 progressivism is godless doesn't mean it isn't a religion. It is, it is certainly a religion with

00:29:45.520 its own supernatural beliefs. In fact, the, the religion of progressivism has the most implausible

00:29:52.380 supernatural belief of any religion on earth and that they believe a man can magically turn into a

00:29:58.400 woman by putting on a dress. I'm not aware of any religion that has a belief like that. 0.95

00:30:05.900 And these drag queen story hours are like religious rituals for those in the religion of progressivism. 0.99

00:30:11.200 It's, uh, you know, it's, it's not something now, if you want to do that in some private,

00:30:18.240 uh, facility, then you can. Although actually even there, I would, I would object to it. In fact,

00:30:24.360 I think even there it should be illegal because it's sexual abuse, it's sexual grooming of children. 0.99

00:30:29.240 So even there, I'm not okay. But doing it at a library is all the worse. Um, it's just not,

00:30:37.480 in fact, the only way saying that this is like a religious ritual for them, I think probably cuts

00:30:46.460 them too much slack because it's either that, or it's just straight up sexual grooming of children. 0.90

00:30:55.940 Uh, probably it's both. I think in the end it's, it's a, it's a bit of both.

00:31:01.940 There is no other reason. Like you want to have a story hour. You want to have, um, kids go to the

00:31:08.540 library and hear a story. Great. You know, libraries have been doing that forever. I remember when I was a

00:31:14.100 kid, we would go to the library for story hour, but you know what? We would sit in a little room

00:31:19.400 and, uh, the librarian would come in and read to us. Okay. That that's, that's, so I understand why

00:31:30.200 you have the story. Why do you need a man dressed up like a woman in a Tim Burton movie, which is how 0.99

00:31:39.020 all drag Queens dress for some reason. Um, why do you need him to read it? That's the part that 0.93

00:31:45.260 doesn't make sense until you understand it as a sort of religious ritual and as sexual grooming of

00:31:53.640 children, which is what it is. Okay. Let's go to Aaron says, hi, Matt. Just wanted to get your take

00:31:58.080 on what seems to be an unpopular opinion by me. I know you, uh, you homeschool, so maybe you aren't

00:32:04.180 the best person to ask, but I will anyway, we currently pay a lot of property taxes to our

00:32:09.660 school district. In my opinion, for these taxes, the school district is responsible for providing

00:32:13.780 curriculum as well as instruction on that curriculum. Since the virus has shut down schools,

00:32:18.680 my elementary age children has, have been, um, or child has been provided curriculum,

00:32:23.480 but not any virtual instruction by his teachers. I have had to cut my hours at work in order to be his

00:32:27.980 new teacher. Everyone has their skillsets and being a teacher is not one of mine. I feel like I'm

00:32:32.820 do a refund on my property taxes. Since they're only doing 50% of their responsibilities, I should

00:32:37.260 be allocated a pro rate, a part of my taxes back. If this is too harsh, I should at least be refunded

00:32:43.440 for the saved utilities and overhead costs of support staff that have done nothing during the

00:32:48.920 shutdown. What's your take on this? Well, Aaron, you're not going to hear any pushback on me. I'm

00:32:53.140 not the guy to give you pushback on that. I absolutely agree. A hundred percent. Generally,

00:32:58.140 if you propose any idea that has people paying less in taxes or getting tax money back, I'm going to be

00:33:05.500 in favor of it. I don't think I've ever heard an idea I didn't like when it comes to people paying

00:33:10.260 less. You don't even have to, you don't have to go any further. You start with, I have this idea

00:33:15.560 about paying less in taxes. Yep. I'm in favor. I don't care. I don't even care what you say.

00:33:20.020 Everybody who wears a green shirt on Tuesday has to pay, you know, owes a 40% less in income taxes.

00:33:25.200 Sounds good to me. Um, I am always a huge fan and I'll tell you why, because I'm always a huge fan

00:33:33.300 of the government making less money. Any way that we can go about doing that, I'm in favor of.

00:33:40.560 And, um, with this idea though, the argument in favor of it is particularly strong. So yes, I agree.

00:33:48.900 From Steve says, hi Matt. I know you tend to be anti-vax, but what do you think of these people

00:33:54.160 pledging that they won't get a coronavirus vaccine? I think it's extremely irresponsible.

00:33:58.380 Getting a vaccine isn't just about protecting you. It's about protecting those around you as well.

00:34:02.200 Just seems very selfish to me. And I've seen some conservatives I respect make these statements.

00:34:08.020 Well, Steve, I'm not sure where you got the idea that I'm anti-vax. Um, I'm not, uh,

00:34:14.340 I don't see vaccines as something that it makes sense to be anti or pro

00:34:19.680 in relation to them. It really depends on the vaccine and on the person getting it and on the

00:34:27.300 circumstance, right? Doesn't it? It would be like if you asked me, am I pro medicine?

00:34:34.400 Well, I'm not anti-medicine certainly, but that doesn't mean that I think all medicines are good

00:34:39.680 for all people all the time, obviously. So the pro or anti-dichotomy doesn't make a lot of sense,

00:34:45.340 or at least it's not helpful when it comes to medicine. And I don't think it's helpful when

00:34:49.860 it comes to vaccines. Um, here's what I know about vaccines. They should be a choice. I don't believe

00:34:56.940 in government forcing needles into people's arms. I, I just, I don't like that idea at all.

00:35:02.880 Well, and people should evaluate and research any substance before putting it into their bodies,

00:35:08.740 any substance that you're about to have injected into your body.

00:35:13.260 You should know something about, I don't think that's a radical point of view. I don't think

00:35:16.580 that's an anti-vax point of view. Um, and I would, again, I can't think of a substance that you would

00:35:22.900 have injected into your body that I think you, you shouldn't do some research on or understand

00:35:26.580 ahead of time. Um, so that's my take, you know, now on the, uh, coronavirus vaccine,

00:35:35.960 it's impossible for me to say whether I'm for it or against it right now, because it doesn't exist.

00:35:43.460 And so it's theoretical. Um, it, it, it, it may never exist. Who knows? We don't even know if it

00:35:49.140 will. If it does, when it does, again, it should be evaluated and researched and people should make a

00:35:54.840 free choice whether or whether to not take it. If they rush the vaccine and they have one available,

00:36:00.880 like in the winter time, if there's a vaccine available in December of 2020, which I doubt,

00:36:05.800 but if it is, I'm going to be pretty nervous about that. I can, I can say right now, um,

00:36:11.780 I don't like the idea of having someone rush something into production and then me injecting it

00:36:17.360 into my body. And so I'm, I'm going to be wary of that. But if a reasonable amount of time has passed

00:36:23.580 and, um, a vaccine comes out and it's safe and it's not being forced on me, then I might take it.

00:36:30.460 Sure. All depends. Really? Again, I don't think vaccines are an issue where we should be dogmatic.

00:36:37.120 And I feel that way on the other side too, to be clear, the people who, I mean, there are people

00:36:42.220 who are anti-vax, of course, we all know that. And there are people who would, you know, they're just

00:36:45.920 against all vaccines across the board. They don't like any of them without exception. I think that's

00:36:50.860 also silly. And I think it's also absurdly dogmatic. Um, and that's just not how I look at 0.98

00:36:58.520 this issue. I, I, I think it's a damn shame that something like a vaccine has become a political

00:37:04.420 ideological issue there. There. And I'm, you know, I'm someone that I, I can easily find the ideology 0.71

00:37:10.200 in, in almost anything. I mean, I can turn almost anything into an ideological issue.

00:37:16.380 Vaccines though, are one thing that I just don't see it. I don't see it as ideological or

00:37:20.540 political. It's a vaccine. It's a, it's a substance, right? And, and you find out the

00:37:30.960 facts on it and the facts are the facts and that's it. That's my, that's my take. Sorry

00:37:36.480 if you were expecting something a little bit more fiery, but, uh, that's all I got. So I

00:37:41.240 think we're going to wrap it up there. Um, tomorrow I'll be, I'll be off, but have a great Memorial

00:37:45.700 Day weekend, everybody. Um, hopefully your state has enough things open that you can,

00:37:50.880 you know, actually go out and enjoy yourself and I'll talk to you next week. Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - May 21, 2020

Ep. 492 - The War On Religious Liberty Continues

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