Ep. 492 - The War On Religious Liberty Continues
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Some churches are finally stepping up to defy these restrictions, but what took so long? Also, five headlines including CNN continuing to beclown itself, what else is new, and in our daily cancellation, we will cancel the designers and manufacturers of a hospital bed that doubles as a coffin.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, states are beginning to reopen, but churches are still being unfairly
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and, more importantly, unconstitutionally targeted for extra restrictions that make no sense at all.
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Some churches are finally stepping up to defy these restrictions, but what took so long is
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the question. Also, five headlines including CNN continuing to beclown itself, what else is new,
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and in our daily cancellation, we will cancel the designers and manufacturers of a hospital bed
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that doubles as a coffin. Yes, I'm not making that up. We'll get to all that on the show today,
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but we start here, and it's about time we start to see this. In Minnesota, a number of churches,
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Catholic churches mainly, but also Lutheran churches, some other churches, are going to open up
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in defiance of the directives from their state's emperor, Tim Waltz. Now, opening up in general is
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not the act of defiance. Technically, they're allowed to open. They have been magnanimously,
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generously given permission to open by the emperor, but the defiance is because they're opening at 33%
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capacity. At least that's what the Catholic churches are doing, which is quite a bit more
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than the 10-person limit that Emperor Waltz has decreed. Emperor Waltz has said, if you're a church,
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you're only allowed to have 10 people at a time. Here's the crucial point. The emperor is allowing
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retail shops and malls and other stores like that to open at 50% capacity. Restaurants are allowed to
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have 50 people in their outdoor seating area. Churches, though, can only have 10. Okay, now try to make
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sense of this for me, if you can, because I can't quite understand it. Most churches are quite a bit
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bigger than restaurants, and many churches are as big or bigger than big box retailers or even malls,
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but they can only have 10 people. So what? Is the social distancing rule for churches now like 60 feet
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between people instead of six? Have they multiplied it by 10? It doesn't make any sense, unless you take it
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for what it is, which is an assault on religious liberty. And that, in fact, is what this has been
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from the very beginning, not just in Minnesota, but across the country. Now, we have to understand
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something. In order for this to be an assault on religious liberty, it doesn't have to be that
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governors are plotting against churches as part of some kind of anti-religious scheme. Now, I think
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there probably is an element of that in a lot of these states, but I think that's not really the
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point. What this is, I think, in most cases, is governors who subjectively, because he or she is not
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religious, just doesn't think that churches are that important or essential, as they say now. And so these
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governors don't think it's worth the risk to have people go to church. They just don't understand why, from
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their perspective, and this is, this is, they've been very clear about this all along, from their
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perspective, it's, it's like, why would you even want to go to church in the first place? Why would you want
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to risk anything to go to church? So I'm doing you people a favor. I, as the emperor of the state, as the
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governor turned emperor, I, I don't see why anybody would want to go to church. It's not important to me, and so
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why, why should it be open? Now, Walmart, okay, that's worth the risk. I can understand, as a, as a, as a
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consumerist myself, I can understand why you would risk it to go to Walmart, or Best Buy, or even Outback
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Steakhouse. Sure, to get the Bloomin' Onions. Okay, you're gonna, you're gonna risk it for that. But
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for church, no. Who, who, who needs churches? That's the attitude, I think. And it amounts to
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politicians closing churches and keeping them closed on the basis of their own opinion of churches and
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religion. And that is clearly unconstitutional. That is clearly an attack on religious liberty.
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Go there now. Okay. You know, the other thing to keep in mind, though, when we talk about the church
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issue, we talk about this idea of essential versus non-essential. The point about religion is whether
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you think that religious worship itself is an essential activity, and I believe that it is.
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But whether you do or not, the point is that the right is essential. It is an essential right.
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Essential in the deeper sense of the word, not essential like important. And that's what we,
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when this word essential has been tossed around so much, and places have been shut down or allowed
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to stay open based on it, it always just means essential as in important. Important to whom?
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Well, according to the governor, it's important to us, but really it's important to him. And so he's
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the one deciding. But that's not what we're talking about. There's a deeper sense of the word
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essential. Essential doesn't just mean important. It means inherent to our nature. So the right to
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practice our religion is essential in that it's inherent to our nature. And that's what it says
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in so many words in the First Amendment. And that's what our founding fathers believed. And that's the
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idea that our country was founded upon. We have allowed over these past two months the government
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government to redefine religious liberty as non-essential, which is another way of saying
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we've allowed them to define it out of existence. Because if a right is not essential, then it isn't
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inherent. And if a right is not inherent, then it doesn't exist. That's what human rights are. They're
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essential to our nature. If they're not essential to our nature, then we don't have them. It's not,
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then it's at best a privilege. And that's indeed how these tinpot dictators and governor's mansions
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see religious liberty. And that's how they want us to see it. Now, churches in Minnesota are finally
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stepping up and saying, enough. No, we're not going to go along with this. We are going to exercise our
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rights with or without your approval, because your approval is irrelevant. You know, they're saying,
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we're going to open up the way that we think is safe. Because it's not like we're a bunch of
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suicidal nihilists, quite the opposite. We're not trying to get anybody hurt. But we think people
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have a right to worship and they need to. It is essential. And so we're going to open up. We're
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going to do it in a safe way. But we are going to decide what is safe. We don't need a bureaucrat or
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politician to tell us the safe way to do it. We'll decide. That's what the bishops in Minnesota are
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saying. That's what churches are saying. The question, though, is whether it's too late.
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Has the damage already been done? The fact is that churches all across America, with few exceptions,
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obeyed, allowed themselves to be closed, submitted to a ban on public worship. Think about that.
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Okay, a ban on public worship. Let's not get to the point where we're so used to the idea that it
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doesn't shock us anymore. It should shock you. Even after two months, it should shock you.
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There was, and still is, in this country, a ban on public worship in America, in a country that was
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literally founded to escape that sort of tyranny. And churches, most of them went along with it.
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Now they're not. Good. Why did they ever, is the question.
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From what I've read, and some of the emails I've gotten, a lot of police departments, sheriff
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departments around Minnesota are saying they're not going to enforce this. So these churches,
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they are not going to go into churches and start hauling people away in cuffs. They're just not
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going to do it. They're going to refuse to. Well, you know, and if they don't, which I think they will
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refuse to, because what, what, what are they really going to, if you've got churches all across
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Minnesota open, um, are they really going to march into hundreds of churches and start hauling people
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away in chains? No, they're not going to do that. They were never going to do that.
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So you call their bluff successfully. Could have done it from the beginning.
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What's going to happen now? I'll tell you this is eventually we can, we can look to the horizon
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and we can see, um, one of the most important Supreme court cases that, that will be before
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the court in the next few years. And that's going to be, be a case about, you know, centered around
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this idea of whether or not the government has the authority to define, um, religious worship
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as non-essential and depending on who wins in 2020 and depending on what happens, you know, I, I don't
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have a lot of confidence that they're going to come down on the right side of that. I mean, imagine
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the Supreme court, depending on what its makeup is by the time a few years from now, by the time this,
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this, this, a case like this appears before them, uh, imagine the Supreme court actually codifies
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into law and says, yeah, you know what? Religious worship is not essential. Imagine the ramifications of
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that virus or no virus pandemic or no pandemic. That's, that's essentially the end of religious
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liberty in America. Okay. Let's go to, um, headlines. Number one, pretty big news here, folks. Joe Biden
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has finally come up with a nickname for president Trump speaking to the Asian American and Pacific
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Islander victory funds, uh, progressive summit. That's what it is. Biden said, Trump is out there
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tweeting again this morning. I call him president Tweety. Yeah. See, this one is disappointing for me
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personally from Biden. I was expecting something a little bit more old timey, maybe like Donald the
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dunderhead, you know, something like that. I just, I don't think president Tweety lives up to the
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expectations that I, that I had. And by the way, Trump's nickname for Biden, sleepy Joe is, is also
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super lame. Creepy Joe. This is one of the biggest missed opportunities in, in modern politics. You go
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with sleepy Joe rather than creepy Joe. It's it, the two words rhyme. Creepy is a lot. You know, when you
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think of Joe Biden, do you think, Oh, that guy's super sleepy. What a sleepy guy that he is. No, you think
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that guy's creepy. That's a, that's a weird, creepy dude. I mean, even, you know, even senile Joe would
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work. I mean, something like that. I just think sleepy doesn't, doesn't work perhaps more to the
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point though. Um, even, even aside from all that, we, we, we, we should remember that these men are in
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their seventies. Okay. Uh, Brock, Brock, Donald Trump is what? 74, something like that. 73, 74. Um,
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Joe Biden is 78. We'll be 79. And this is what they're reduced to. You're a sleepy Joe. No, I'm
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not. You're, you're president Tweety. I'm telling dad, we live in the dumbest time folks. We really do
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the dumbest time. And let me just say one other thing about this. Lest you accuse me of being
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offended or scandalized by the insults? I'm not at all. I have no problem with, with politicians
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insulting each other. Let me be very clear about that. They all deserve, all politicians deserve to
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be insulted. So it's good that they're providing this service to each other. I'm a big fan of that.
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I'm a big fan of politicians being insulted. I think that's one of the things that they're there
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for. Um, and so if they're insulting each other, um, I love it. I'm on board with that.
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It's just, and yes, politicians have always been vicious to each other. I'm fine with that too.
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They were quite a bit more vicious back in the day. In fact, my problem is that politicians these
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days are simpletons who, who, who insult each other like children, like sixth graders. Now back in the
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day, they were at least articulate and eloquent and creative about it. Look at some of the insults
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that, that, uh, Teddy Roosevelt used to throw around. Okay. Now there was a man who knew how to
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insult people. A few of my favorites. Um, he said, I think it was about a, uh, uh, an author. He said
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that, uh, he called him a, a little emasculated mass of inanity. Okay. That's a good one. Infernal
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skunk. Another good one. Well-meaning pinheaded anarchistic crank. Those are insults. Okay. These
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amateurs nowadays wouldn't know what hit him if old Teddy showed up with his, uh, insult cannons loaded.
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All right. Number two, famously, um, infamously, I guess I should say part of the coronavirus
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stimulus bill was this enhanced unemployment measure that gave people an extra, what was
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it? 600 bucks a month or a week, actually extra $600 a week. People were getting, are getting
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unemployment during the coronavirus. Um, the big problem is that now people aren't going back to
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work because they can make more on unemployment. And I have heard this specifically from business
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owners many times that they're having trouble hiring people back. Think about that. Imagine
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it 35 million people unemployed and some business owners are having trouble hiring people, you know,
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um, because these, there are a lot of people who can make more on unemployment. So just a spectacularly
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stupid measure from the government. Once again, trying to save the economy by incentivizing unemployment,
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brilliant plan. Well, cocaine, Mitch, Mitch McConnell is getting, uh, getting heat today
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because he has pledged to end this incentive and he's right to do so. You know, he's saying
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on the next, uh, stimulus bill, there's, this isn't, this isn't going to be in there. This
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is going away. Um, and that's, that's the right thing. It's very easy to say, Oh, you mean
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man trying to take money away from unemployed people. Businesses need workers, people, and people
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need to work. We aren't going to have an economic recovery. If we're literally paying people
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to sit at home, that's not how you re spark, restart the engine of the economy. So it's
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time to end this madness. And once again, that is not to say that people should be forced
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to go back to work. Don't accuse me of saying that we should force people to go back to work.
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I don't believe that. All I'm saying is that they shouldn't be paid to not work. That's the
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Sneed age 30 was arrested for setting his grandmother's living room on fire with two
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dogs inside. Now the dogs escaped and were fine. Grandmother was fine. Everybody's fine. The
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living room was not so fine. Um, but that's the story. And now here's the, uh, here it is. Here's
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the mugshot. Here's, there he is. Dustin Matthew Sneed right there. You know, I got to say, I didn't
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think that sets grandma's living room on fire was a look, but apparently it is because that's
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it. That's the look. Like if you went to hot topic and said, I want to look like someone
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who sets my grandmother's house on fire. That's what they would hook you up with. As if hot
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topic has professional stylists on staff. I don't know. I don't, I don't know if it works. I haven't
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been there in a while because of the shutdown. I mean, usually that's where I do all my shopping
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anyway. Uh, so, so there it is. I mean, I guess the good news is though, if, if you're
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a parent and your son looks like that and he's 30 years old and so far, the worst thing
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he's done is set your mother's house on fire. You'd be pretty relieved. I think actually,
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assuming that's the worst thing he's done based on where the bar is set. Right? Like when,
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when the cops finally show up at your house and say, sir, your son. And as soon as you
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hear that, you're thinking, Oh my God, here we go. Here it goes. And then he finishes it
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with your son set your mother's house on fire. I think your reaction would almost be relief.
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You would say, that's it. Wow. Okay. Well good. I mean, not good. It's not good, but just,
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I, I, I didn't know where this was going. So, all right. Um, number four, let's take a look
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at a bright stop, bright spot. That is some positive news. This is a governor, Ron DeSantis
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of Florida. And I do call him governor. He's, he's one who is still governor, not emperor.
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He hasn't been acting like an emperor. He's been acting like a governor who actually cares
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about governing and not controlling. Imagine that. Well, he's been blasted by the media
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relentlessly for months. And why? For the crime of doing a great job dealing with the coronavirus.
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You know, he's, he's done one of the best jobs, if not the best job in the entire country.
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And for that, he's been blasted by the media. Finally, he, uh, stood up for himself in front
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of the media and let the media have it. And, uh, this is just great stuff. Watch.
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Our data is available. Our data is transparent. In fact, Dr. Birx has talked multiple times
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about how Florida has the absolute best data. So any insinuation otherwise is just typical
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partisan narrative trying to be spun. And part of the reason is that because you got a lot of people,
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your profession who waxed poetically for weeks and weeks about how Florida was going to be
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just like New York, wait two weeks, Florida is going to be next, just like Italy, wait
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two weeks. Well, hell, we're eight weeks away from that. And it hasn't happened. Not only
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do we have a lower death rate, well, we have way lower deaths. Generally, we have a lower
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death rate than the Acela corridor, DC, everyone up there. We have a lower rate death rate than
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the Midwest, Illinois, Michigan, Indiana, Ohio. But even in our region, Louisiana, Mississippi,
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Alabama, Georgia, Florida has the lower death rate. And I was the number one landing spot
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from tens of thousands of people leaving the number one hot zone in the world to come to my state. So
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we've succeeded. And I think that people just don't want to recognize it because it challenges their
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narrative. It challenges their assumption. So they got to try to find a boogeyman. Maybe it's
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that they're a black helicopter circling the Department of Health. If you believe that I got
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a bridge in Brooklyn, I'd like to sell you. Glorious, absolutely glorious. And everything
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you said there, 100% true. I loved every second of that. Number five, finally, as we have covered
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extensively on the show, and we just talked about Governor DeSantis, he's done one of the best
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jobs. Governor Cuomo of New York, despite being hailed by the media as the coronavirus
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slayer, the corona slayer, he has done by far the worst job of any governor. And not just because
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he's had the most deaths, although he has by a mile, but because he's directly responsible for
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the deaths of thousands of elderly people in nursing homes, because he forcibly introduced the
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infection into nursing homes by mandating that nursing homes accept coronavirus patients. Many,
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many, many people died as a result of that, as a direct result of that. Now, in spite of this,
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rather than grilling Cuomo and getting answers, CNN has him on all the time for these cutesy little
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chat sessions with his younger brother, Chris. And yesterday, the cutesiness entered a terminal stage.
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Watch this. You had video come out before we go to break where you wanted to encourage people to
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get tested and some people are afraid it's going to hurt. So you had video of it that I want to show
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the audience of you actually getting tested. Here it is. There's you. You were kind of funny and they
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were testing you. Now, a few questions about this process. First of all, is it true that when you were
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having the test administered, you inhaled and the doctor's finger went all the way up your nose and got
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stuck and had to be released with a tool. Is that true? Just to just to deal with the record.
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No, she, she, she wanted to comment that I have a little button nose and she was afraid that the swab
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would actually hurt because it, it extended my, uh, nasal cavity. The proboscis issue.
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Speaking about the delicacy of the nose. And that's what, you know what, I understand. This is the normal
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swab I'm holding up here now. And for everybody at home, a very valuable object. There's only one
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company in the entire country that makes these up in Maine. All right. Here's the swab. Is it true
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that this was the swab that the nurse was actually using on you? Okay. Stop. Just, just, just, just,
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just stop. I can't even, I can't watch anymore. Okay. The joke is that the Q-tips keep getting bigger.
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You get it? Cause he's got a big nose and the bit goes on for a while longer. We keep getting bigger
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and bigger Q-tips. Hilarious stuff, right? Little, little comedy bit. This is a new show.
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This is a news anchor, allegedly talking to a politician who was at the center of a deadly
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scandal. And this is what we get. A two minute routine on his big nose.
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Really embarrassing for CNN. And as I said before, just imagine the reaction.
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If, um, if, um, you know, Fox news gave Don jr. Uh, you know, uh, some time, some segments to
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interview his dad, you know, once a week. And, and they have these kinds of little back and forth
00:25:14.480
things. Do you, do you think that people on the left and the media would, would say, oh,
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isn't that so nice and so relatable? No. They would say, this is an assault on journalism. It's
00:25:26.040
the death of journalism. Democracy dies in darkness, blah, blah, blah. So on and so forth.
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And they'd be right in a way. And we're right in pointing that out about CNN right now. Okay.
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Let's move on to our daily cancellation and canceled today are the makers of this bed that I'll show you
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in a second. According to the telegraph, a factory in Columbia is making hospital beds that can be
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turned into a coffin. If the patient dies, not a joke. As far as I know, they, they have a video.
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Let's, uh, let's watch the video together. So it says a Colombian designer design company are making
00:26:04.080
hospital cardboard, hospital beds. You see the person there in the, that can be easily turned
00:26:11.620
into a coffin. If the patient dies. Oh my gosh. This is horrifying. Now that's, that's not a real
00:26:20.000
dead person there. I don't think. So she's just modeling it for us. And it's literally a cardboard
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box. Okay. These cardboard beds are made for people with coronavirus. Oh, isn't that nice?
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Isn't that thoughtful? And they just put a lid, they put a cardboard lid on the top of it.
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That's it's just, it's like a, it's a refrigerator box. They invented a refrigerator box that they're
00:26:41.340
putting dead people in. Okay. And there's a design process there. What must these people
00:26:46.480
do? What are the people at the factory making this? What are they thinking right now? That's
00:26:50.600
my question. Hospital beds and coffins are in short supply. So, all right. So you just combine
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them. Okay. There you go. Um, all I can say is it's gotta be a bad sign when they transfer you
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into that bed. I can just imagine the doctor coming in, looking at my chart and then saying,
00:27:13.740
okay, Mr. Walsh, everyone, everything's looking, uh, fine for now. Tell you what, we're just going
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to move you into this bed over here. Don't worry. Nothing to be concerned about. We won't put the lid on
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yet. And besides, don't the families take charge of the bodies for the burial? Isn't that like
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usually how this works? Is, is the family going to want to bury their loved one in the cardboard box
00:27:37.780
they died in? I can't, ma'am, I regret to inform you that your husband has died. Now, would you like
00:27:45.980
him in our to-go box or did you bring your own? It's not, you know, I'm, I'm not laughing about it.
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It's very serious. And, uh, actually it's inspired me because convenience is everything, right? So
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I've invented, I have come up with a prototype. Uh, it's a recliner for your home, you know, like
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a lazy boy, but it doubles as an electric chair in case you ever become a convicted murderer.
00:28:09.200
And then no need to go through the whole rigmarole of the death, death row and everything. They just,
00:28:13.360
you know, you're sitting in the chair, they just flip a switch and, uh, and that's it. And then they
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can put you in the cardboard box. So it's a kind of like a product tie-in that's marketing for you.
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Uh, this is getting pretty grim. I apologize. Anyway. Um, so the people who came up with that
00:28:27.960
are canceled for obvious reasons, pretty horrifying. Let's move on to emails and you can
00:28:34.200
always email the show by becoming a daily wire member. Um, and you get access to the mailbag as
00:28:38.100
well as many other perks. This is from Kelly says, Hey Matt, I was listening to your show yesterday
00:28:42.860
about drag story hour at public libraries. It made me wonder what you think these same parents
00:28:47.940
who take their kids to these would think if they happen to see a Bible study hour with a bishop or
00:28:53.240
priest reading the children. I feel like I know the answer. I just like to hear you rant about how
00:28:57.600
crazy leftists are. Thanks for the great show. Uh, well, right, Kelly, the answer, and it's a good
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point, but the answer is exactly what you think the answer is. In fact, these same people would not
00:29:08.220
only object, but invariably they would claim that that's a violation of church and state
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of the separation of church and state because libraries are quasi government facilities and
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maybe they'd have a point, you know? Um, I don't know. I, I don't think they would. I think it'd be
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fine, but, but there would be an argument at least. And that's why I would say that drag queen story
00:29:32.580
hour is the same kind of thing as a separation of church and state. You know, just because
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progressivism is godless doesn't mean it isn't a religion. It is, it is certainly a religion with
00:29:45.520
its own supernatural beliefs. In fact, the, the religion of progressivism has the most implausible
00:29:52.380
supernatural belief of any religion on earth and that they believe a man can magically turn into a
00:29:58.400
woman by putting on a dress. I'm not aware of any religion that has a belief like that.
00:30:05.900
And these drag queen story hours are like religious rituals for those in the religion of progressivism.
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It's, uh, you know, it's, it's not something now, if you want to do that in some private,
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uh, facility, then you can. Although actually even there, I would, I would object to it. In fact,
00:30:24.360
I think even there it should be illegal because it's sexual abuse, it's sexual grooming of children.
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So even there, I'm not okay. But doing it at a library is all the worse. Um, it's just not,
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in fact, the only way saying that this is like a religious ritual for them, I think probably cuts
00:30:46.460
them too much slack because it's either that, or it's just straight up sexual grooming of children.
00:30:55.940
Uh, probably it's both. I think in the end it's, it's a, it's a bit of both.
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There is no other reason. Like you want to have a story hour. You want to have, um, kids go to the
00:31:08.540
library and hear a story. Great. You know, libraries have been doing that forever. I remember when I was a
00:31:14.100
kid, we would go to the library for story hour, but you know what? We would sit in a little room
00:31:19.400
and, uh, the librarian would come in and read to us. Okay. That that's, that's, so I understand why
00:31:30.200
you have the story. Why do you need a man dressed up like a woman in a Tim Burton movie, which is how
00:31:39.020
all drag Queens dress for some reason. Um, why do you need him to read it? That's the part that
00:31:45.260
doesn't make sense until you understand it as a sort of religious ritual and as sexual grooming of
00:31:53.640
children, which is what it is. Okay. Let's go to Aaron says, hi, Matt. Just wanted to get your take
00:31:58.080
on what seems to be an unpopular opinion by me. I know you, uh, you homeschool, so maybe you aren't
00:32:04.180
the best person to ask, but I will anyway, we currently pay a lot of property taxes to our
00:32:09.660
school district. In my opinion, for these taxes, the school district is responsible for providing
00:32:13.780
curriculum as well as instruction on that curriculum. Since the virus has shut down schools,
00:32:18.680
my elementary age children has, have been, um, or child has been provided curriculum,
00:32:23.480
but not any virtual instruction by his teachers. I have had to cut my hours at work in order to be his
00:32:27.980
new teacher. Everyone has their skillsets and being a teacher is not one of mine. I feel like I'm
00:32:32.820
do a refund on my property taxes. Since they're only doing 50% of their responsibilities, I should
00:32:37.260
be allocated a pro rate, a part of my taxes back. If this is too harsh, I should at least be refunded
00:32:43.440
for the saved utilities and overhead costs of support staff that have done nothing during the
00:32:48.920
shutdown. What's your take on this? Well, Aaron, you're not going to hear any pushback on me. I'm
00:32:53.140
not the guy to give you pushback on that. I absolutely agree. A hundred percent. Generally,
00:32:58.140
if you propose any idea that has people paying less in taxes or getting tax money back, I'm going to be
00:33:05.500
in favor of it. I don't think I've ever heard an idea I didn't like when it comes to people paying
00:33:10.260
less. You don't even have to, you don't have to go any further. You start with, I have this idea
00:33:15.560
about paying less in taxes. Yep. I'm in favor. I don't care. I don't even care what you say.
00:33:20.020
Everybody who wears a green shirt on Tuesday has to pay, you know, owes a 40% less in income taxes.
00:33:25.200
Sounds good to me. Um, I am always a huge fan and I'll tell you why, because I'm always a huge fan
00:33:33.300
of the government making less money. Any way that we can go about doing that, I'm in favor of.
00:33:40.560
And, um, with this idea though, the argument in favor of it is particularly strong. So yes, I agree.
00:33:48.900
From Steve says, hi Matt. I know you tend to be anti-vax, but what do you think of these people
00:33:54.160
pledging that they won't get a coronavirus vaccine? I think it's extremely irresponsible.
00:33:58.380
Getting a vaccine isn't just about protecting you. It's about protecting those around you as well.
00:34:02.200
Just seems very selfish to me. And I've seen some conservatives I respect make these statements.
00:34:08.020
Well, Steve, I'm not sure where you got the idea that I'm anti-vax. Um, I'm not, uh,
00:34:14.340
I don't see vaccines as something that it makes sense to be anti or pro
00:34:19.680
in relation to them. It really depends on the vaccine and on the person getting it and on the
00:34:27.300
circumstance, right? Doesn't it? It would be like if you asked me, am I pro medicine?
00:34:34.400
Well, I'm not anti-medicine certainly, but that doesn't mean that I think all medicines are good
00:34:39.680
for all people all the time, obviously. So the pro or anti-dichotomy doesn't make a lot of sense,
00:34:45.340
or at least it's not helpful when it comes to medicine. And I don't think it's helpful when
00:34:49.860
it comes to vaccines. Um, here's what I know about vaccines. They should be a choice. I don't believe
00:34:56.940
in government forcing needles into people's arms. I, I just, I don't like that idea at all.
00:35:02.880
Well, and people should evaluate and research any substance before putting it into their bodies,
00:35:08.740
any substance that you're about to have injected into your body.
00:35:13.260
You should know something about, I don't think that's a radical point of view. I don't think
00:35:16.580
that's an anti-vax point of view. Um, and I would, again, I can't think of a substance that you would
00:35:22.900
have injected into your body that I think you, you shouldn't do some research on or understand
00:35:26.580
ahead of time. Um, so that's my take, you know, now on the, uh, coronavirus vaccine,
00:35:35.960
it's impossible for me to say whether I'm for it or against it right now, because it doesn't exist.
00:35:43.460
And so it's theoretical. Um, it, it, it, it may never exist. Who knows? We don't even know if it
00:35:49.140
will. If it does, when it does, again, it should be evaluated and researched and people should make a
00:35:54.840
free choice whether or whether to not take it. If they rush the vaccine and they have one available,
00:36:00.880
like in the winter time, if there's a vaccine available in December of 2020, which I doubt,
00:36:05.800
but if it is, I'm going to be pretty nervous about that. I can, I can say right now, um,
00:36:11.780
I don't like the idea of having someone rush something into production and then me injecting it
00:36:17.360
into my body. And so I'm, I'm going to be wary of that. But if a reasonable amount of time has passed
00:36:23.580
and, um, a vaccine comes out and it's safe and it's not being forced on me, then I might take it.
00:36:30.460
Sure. All depends. Really? Again, I don't think vaccines are an issue where we should be dogmatic.
00:36:37.120
And I feel that way on the other side too, to be clear, the people who, I mean, there are people
00:36:42.220
who are anti-vax, of course, we all know that. And there are people who would, you know, they're just
00:36:45.920
against all vaccines across the board. They don't like any of them without exception. I think that's
00:36:50.860
also silly. And I think it's also absurdly dogmatic. Um, and that's just not how I look at
00:36:58.520
this issue. I, I, I think it's a damn shame that something like a vaccine has become a political
00:37:04.420
ideological issue there. There. And I'm, you know, I'm someone that I, I can easily find the ideology
00:37:10.200
in, in almost anything. I mean, I can turn almost anything into an ideological issue.
00:37:16.380
Vaccines though, are one thing that I just don't see it. I don't see it as ideological or
00:37:20.540
political. It's a vaccine. It's a, it's a substance, right? And, and you find out the
00:37:30.960
facts on it and the facts are the facts and that's it. That's my, that's my take. Sorry
00:37:36.480
if you were expecting something a little bit more fiery, but, uh, that's all I got. So I
00:37:41.240
think we're going to wrap it up there. Um, tomorrow I'll be, I'll be off, but have a great Memorial
00:37:45.700
Day weekend, everybody. Um, hopefully your state has enough things open that you can,
00:37:50.880
you know, actually go out and enjoy yourself and I'll talk to you next week. Godspeed.
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