The Matt Walsh Show - June 02, 2020


Ep. 495 - The ＂Racist Police＂ Narrative Is False


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

164.81152

Word Count

7,813

Sentence Count

636

Misogynist Sentences

7

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary

Racist cops are out hunting and killing black people, right? Is this a fact? Is there any reason to believe it? Today we re going to take a look at the evidence and see where it points. Also, 5 headlines, including a CNN reporter going to rather desperate rhetorical extremes to justify rioting and looting, and in our daily cancellation, I ll cancel once and for all the FBI.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, we are told that racist cops are out hunting and killing black
00:00:05.140 people. But is this narrative actually true? Is there any real evidence for it? Is there any
00:00:11.020 reason to believe it? I think the truth really matters. So today we're going to take a look at
00:00:15.200 the evidence and see where it points. Also, five headlines, including a CNN, quote,
00:00:19.380 journalist going to rather desperate rhetorical extremes to justify rioting and looting.
00:00:24.620 And in our daily cancellation, I will cancel once and for all the FBI. Maybe a sort of
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00:02:28.380 in this country. And much of the brutality is motivated by racism, right? Black Americans are
00:02:34.660 quite literally being hunted by racist whites, many of whom wear a badge and carry a gun.
00:02:41.200 Hunted is the exact word that is used even by prominent voices like LeBron James. It isn't safe.
00:02:47.900 It's not even safe for black people, especially men to leave their homes because of the problem of
00:02:52.200 homicidal racist cops. That problem is so pervasive that it's not even safe for them. This anyway,
00:02:58.140 is the narrative that is relentlessly hammered into our heads by the media, Hollywood activists,
00:03:03.940 the Democrat Party. But of course, I repeat myself. Considering that this narrative is currently
00:03:09.900 fueling violent mobs all across the country, and those violent mobs are torching our cities
00:03:14.240 and unraveling the fabric of civilized society, I think it really matters whether it's actually true
00:03:19.800 or not. And a close inspection of the relevant statistics, which we're going to get into now,
00:03:25.200 along with a generous helping of common sense, I think we should apply to the situation as well,
00:03:29.900 would seem to cast very serious doubt on this claim. It is the claim, again, that is sending
00:03:37.980 people into the streets all over the country. I'm not sure there's anything to it.
00:03:46.880 Now, the first thing that we should note is that police kill twice as many white men as they do,
00:03:53.740 well, white people. It's mostly men, and we'll get to that in a second.
00:03:56.460 But police kill twice as many white people as they do black people in a given year.
00:04:01.880 Now, the white victims don't receive anything like the same kind of attention,
00:04:05.260 but they exist, and they are more numerous than the black victims. In fact, the most egregious
00:04:13.580 police shooting, I think, by far in recent history, is the one that claimed the life of a guy named
00:04:18.840 Daniel Shaver. Daniel Shaver is a white man. He was unarmed, and he was gunned down while on his knees
00:04:24.780 begging for his life in the hallway of a hotel. It's all on video. This is what they claimed happened
00:04:35.940 to Michael Brown, but didn't happen in that case, where he was on his knees saying, hands up, don't
00:04:41.540 shoot. Okay, that was a lie. That was invented by the media. Actually, it was a lie invented by,
00:04:47.900 you know, I think originally by Michael Brown's criminal friend, and then amplified by the media.
00:04:54.700 It didn't happen. It was a lie. Here, it actually did happen. Almost exactly that happened.
00:05:01.220 The officer who killed Daniel Shaver was not convicted of any crime. In fact, you know, I wasn't sure if I
00:05:09.620 was going to do this, but I think I will. I want to play some of this video for you of the Daniel Shaver
00:05:14.120 killing, if you haven't seen it. Now, I warn you, it's extremely upsetting. It's not graphic. Now, the video
00:05:21.400 I'm going to play is from the Washington Post. The actual shooting itself is blurred out, so you're not
00:05:25.520 going to see anything, not going to see any blood or anything graphic, but it is very upsetting. I think
00:05:30.900 it's necessary to play the video so that you can actually see it, and when you watch it, keep in
00:05:37.080 mind that these are two white people involved. It was a white officer and a white man. No racial element,
00:05:43.780 and yet this happened.
00:05:46.220 Okay, young man, listen to my instructions and do not make a mistake.
00:05:50.040 You are to keep your legs crossed. Do you understand me?
00:05:56.420 You are to put both of your hands, palms down, straight out in front of you.
00:06:02.800 Push yourself up to a kneeling position.
00:06:06.300 I said, keep your legs crossed!
00:06:09.920 I'm sorry.
00:06:12.620 I didn't say this in conversation.
00:06:14.680 Put your hand in the air!
00:06:16.320 Hands up in the air!
00:06:17.680 You do that again, we're shooting you. Do you understand?
00:06:22.320 Please do not shoot me.
00:06:23.600 Then listen to my instructions.
00:06:25.260 I'm trying to do what you mean.
00:06:26.520 Don't talk! Listen!
00:06:28.540 Hands, straight up in the air.
00:06:31.020 Do not put your hands down for any reason.
00:06:33.440 You think you're going to fall, you better fall in your face.
00:06:36.140 Your hands go back in the small of your back or down.
00:06:38.720 We are going to shoot you. Do you understand me?
00:06:41.060 Yes, sir.
00:06:42.140 Crawl towards me.
00:06:44.640 Crawl towards me!
00:06:45.860 Yes, sir.
00:06:47.680 Don't talk!
00:06:52.880 Shaver was unarmed.
00:06:54.920 He was trying to comply.
00:06:56.560 He was weeping and begging for his life.
00:07:00.500 They threatened repeatedly to kill him.
00:07:04.020 So tensions are high.
00:07:06.520 You know, he's trying to comply, but he's scared.
00:07:09.320 Who wouldn't be?
00:07:10.780 Who wouldn't be?
00:07:11.680 You've got, I think it was three cops responded to that scene.
00:07:14.760 They got guns drawn on you.
00:07:16.620 You're on your knees.
00:07:18.320 They keep threatening to shoot you.
00:07:20.100 And the instructions they're giving are confusing and contradictory.
00:07:24.780 At one point, you know, he's down on the ground, hands out, legs crossed.
00:07:33.200 Then they say, get up and start crawling.
00:07:35.060 And then they yell at him for not keeping his legs crossed.
00:07:37.160 Well, how the hell are you going to crawl with your legs crossed?
00:07:39.220 I don't even understand that.
00:07:42.060 And nobody's got a gun pointed at me.
00:07:44.840 It's like a game of Simon Says, except if you lose, you die.
00:07:50.000 And he lost.
00:07:52.960 Now, finally, the reason they shot him is that he was crawling and then his pants started to fall down.
00:07:59.660 He made the mistake of trying to pull his pants up.
00:08:02.700 Why did he try to pull his pants up?
00:08:04.080 Well, it's just a reflex.
00:08:05.720 And maybe he didn't want to crawl pantless on the ground like a dog.
00:08:10.700 And because he tried to preserve a little bit of his dignity, they shot him dead.
00:08:16.320 Now, this is horrible.
00:08:20.300 The officer should have gone to jail, in my opinion.
00:08:22.540 He didn't.
00:08:24.280 Yet the point here is that there is no racial element.
00:08:28.280 And also, not coincidentally, no riots over that.
00:08:32.080 None at all.
00:08:34.200 Speaking of horrifying video, there's also footage of the last moments of a man named Tony Timpa's life.
00:08:40.300 Timpa, a white man, was suffocated during an arrest, much like the George Floyd situation.
00:08:47.340 He screamed and pleaded for his life 30 times before he died.
00:08:51.280 He said he was dying.
00:08:52.340 He was going to die.
00:08:54.740 Officers on the scene laughed and cracked jokes as he lay there dead on the pavement.
00:09:00.040 Now, I'm not going to play this video because there's only so much of this kind of content you can watch in one sitting.
00:09:04.920 But you can find the video for yourself.
00:09:06.480 It's online.
00:09:06.900 Timpa also, by the way, the reason cops showed up is that Timpa called them to come help him.
00:09:14.120 He suffered from mental illness.
00:09:16.760 And he called them to come help him.
00:09:18.860 They end up killing him in the process.
00:09:20.720 Now, Timpa's case, like Shaver's, like so many others, never attracted the coverage or the outrage anywhere near on par with the killings of George Floyd or Michael Brown or Freddie Gray or any of the other black victims who have become household names.
00:09:35.320 Now, some of these these people have been killed by cops are household names now.
00:09:39.940 Are any of them white?
00:09:42.000 No.
00:09:42.440 But again, these white victims exist and they outnumber their black counterparts by a wide margin.
00:09:49.280 In fact, now, listen.
00:09:52.480 This is not about whataboutism.
00:09:55.040 This is not about racial scorekeeping or anything like that.
00:09:58.260 This is about addressing a narrative that is currently, as I said, fueling the destruction of our cities.
00:10:05.140 We have to address this narrative because if it's not true, that matters, doesn't it?
00:10:10.680 It really, really matters.
00:10:12.940 And I'm saying it's not true.
00:10:15.720 It's just not true.
00:10:17.340 It will be pointed out, of course, that there are many more white people than black people in the country.
00:10:24.340 So the fact that the fact that more white people are killed by cops is, you know, is not a surprise and does not in itself disprove the racist police narrative.
00:10:33.480 And that's true, of course.
00:10:35.220 But consider a couple of things.
00:10:37.580 And before we even get there, I mean, it is true.
00:10:39.700 But even so, even though there are a lot more white people, if this is a problem of racist police out hunting black people, even though there are fewer black people, you still wouldn't expect.
00:10:51.180 Based on that theory, right, of the racist police hunting black people, you still wouldn't expect for there to actually be more white victims.
00:11:00.160 But there are.
00:11:01.280 So that is a conclusion or a fact that is not predicted by the theory of racist cops hunting black people.
00:11:13.600 Also, you know, a person arguing in favor of the racist police narrative must have an explanation for the Shavers and the Timpas and the hundreds of other white victims.
00:11:26.500 You have to, you've got your theory again, your theory is racist police out hunting black people.
00:11:32.640 Okay, that's your theory.
00:11:34.460 How, well, okay, but now you've got all this information over here that doesn't really comport with your theory.
00:11:39.240 How do you explain it?
00:11:40.180 You got to have some explanation.
00:11:43.940 If all or most of the black victims were shot because of racism, which appears to be the theory,
00:11:49.260 because every single time there is video of a black person dying in the process of an arrest or being killed by police,
00:11:57.720 whether justly or unjustly, or if there's a story about it, Michael Brown, there was never any video.
00:12:02.400 It turns out the killing was not unjust, but it did happen in any case.
00:12:06.960 Anytime, the automatic assumption is that it's racism,
00:12:10.300 which would seem to indicate that all or most of the black people killed by cops are killed because of racism.
00:12:21.280 Okay, well, then again, why were the white victims shot in that case?
00:12:25.940 However you explain the white victims,
00:12:29.100 how do you know that the same explanation or combination of explanations doesn't also apply to the black victims?
00:12:35.160 I mean, why do we assume racism for the black victims while assuming any number of other explanations for the white victims?
00:12:44.620 If there are a slew of potential reasons why a white guy might get shot by the cops,
00:12:49.660 including that he was the aggressor and brought it on himself, of course,
00:12:53.080 because it's not like every police shooting is unjust.
00:12:59.260 So I'm using this word victim.
00:13:01.620 I'm just using it for brevity's sake.
00:13:04.540 But, of course, not every suspect who's killed by police is a victim.
00:13:09.060 Many times this is the aggressor.
00:13:11.660 I mean, there are many, when you look at the statistics of people shot by the cops,
00:13:16.140 keep in mind that a lot of them were shooting at the cops, and that's why they got killed.
00:13:21.660 That's not the case for George Floyd, of course, just like it wasn't the case for Daniel Shaver or Tony Timpo.
00:13:27.400 But it does happen.
00:13:29.260 Either way, you know, when we talk about the white victims,
00:13:32.660 there are a whole slew of explanations.
00:13:35.640 How can we rule out all of those explanations from the start whenever a black person is killed by the cops?
00:13:44.260 How does that make any sense to do?
00:13:48.040 Now, Tony Timpo, why did he die?
00:13:50.780 Maybe because the officers involved weren't bigots, but they were reckless bullies who didn't place a high enough value in human life.
00:13:59.820 Okay?
00:14:00.620 That's terrible, but it's not bigotry.
00:14:03.320 It's not racism.
00:14:03.900 If that's how we explain Tony Timpo, or Daniel Shaver, you know, I see that.
00:14:11.060 It's clearly not racism because those are white people, all white people involved.
00:14:14.660 But what I see is a power trip.
00:14:17.040 I see a police officer who is on a power trip and just loves the fact that he's got the gun and he's got the power.
00:14:23.120 That's how I explain it.
00:14:27.600 How can we disqualify that explanation from the outset where George Floyd is concerned?
00:14:36.040 You can't say, well, George Floyd, he was killed because of racism.
00:14:39.880 That exact thing also happened to a white guy.
00:14:43.200 So however you explain it for the white guy, how do you know that doesn't also explain this?
00:14:48.040 Do you have additional evidence that this police officer was racist?
00:14:53.780 If you do, present it.
00:14:56.700 If cops kill white people too, how is the mere fact that a black man was killed by cops evidence in itself for racism?
00:15:05.720 Also, and this part is politically incorrect.
00:15:09.960 Okay, this is where the whole thing is politically incorrect.
00:15:11.840 But now we're going to get to the really politically incorrect part.
00:15:14.300 But it's a point that cannot be avoided.
00:15:16.220 So I'm not going to avoid it.
00:15:17.700 There are enough people out there who are avoiding hard truths.
00:15:20.080 I'm not going to do it.
00:15:20.860 Here's a hard truth.
00:15:22.860 Crime statistics show that a disproportionate amount of violent crime in this country is committed by black people.
00:15:28.920 Okay.
00:15:30.720 That's the statistic.
00:15:34.120 What does it mean?
00:15:34.980 Well, this means that there will be a disproportionate amount of potentially hostile interactions between police and black people.
00:15:41.520 That's what it means.
00:15:43.060 So the real question then is, this is the question.
00:15:46.060 It's whether a black person is significantly more likely to be unjustly killed in an interaction with police than a white person.
00:15:55.880 The answer to that question would appear to be no.
00:15:59.520 In fact, it was recently put, I think, in a pretty persuasive way by somebody on Twitter who compiled the statistics.
00:16:08.700 Leonidas Johnson.
00:16:09.680 I'll show you this.
00:16:10.660 A black man, by the way.
00:16:11.740 Not that it matters.
00:16:12.420 But this clearly is not someone who's trying to excuse racism.
00:16:17.760 And he frames it this way.
00:16:19.200 And he provides the links with all the sources.
00:16:22.640 And this is the information anyone can go find for yourself.
00:16:25.900 The information is out there.
00:16:27.580 So three black people are killed for every 10,000 arrested for violent crime.
00:16:32.460 Among white people arrested for violent crime, the figure is four in 10,000.
00:16:37.440 So when you frame it this way, it's really hard to support the claim of a racist police epidemic.
00:16:43.640 Once again, the racist police narrative is a theory.
00:16:49.800 It's an explanatory theory.
00:16:51.120 It's meant to explain why we see police brutality.
00:16:55.340 Well, theories are supposed to have predictive power.
00:16:58.540 They're supposed to predict the facts that we see.
00:17:02.560 The racist police narrative does not predict that three in 10,000 black people arrested for violent crime will be killed,
00:17:09.960 while four in 10,000 white people are killed.
00:17:12.180 Doesn't predict that.
00:17:13.260 Doesn't explain it.
00:17:14.580 Doesn't comport with it.
00:17:15.760 It also seems relevant that white cops, they've done studies on this,
00:17:22.040 white cops are not more likely to shoot black suspects.
00:17:25.700 And that stat comports with the fact that many of the high-profile police killings,
00:17:29.840 Baltimore, for example,
00:17:32.020 I think about Freddie Gray,
00:17:33.520 that happened in a black-run city with a black mayor, a black police chief,
00:17:37.400 and many black officers were involved in the killing.
00:17:41.400 Yet they still called it racism.
00:17:43.420 I mean, if racism lies at the root of police brutality,
00:17:47.120 and if black men are indeed being hunted,
00:17:49.040 then we should observe a lot more brutality and, quote,
00:17:52.700 hunting in departments and cities where there are more white cops and more white leadership.
00:17:57.520 But that is not what we observe.
00:17:59.560 If the theory was true, that is what we would observe,
00:18:02.660 but it's not what we observe.
00:18:03.880 So there's a problem with the theory.
00:18:05.440 Also, as I referenced earlier,
00:18:11.560 keep in mind that men are much more likely to die by police shooting than women.
00:18:16.720 Much more likely.
00:18:18.240 Okay?
00:18:19.380 Now, this makes little sense on the bigotry theory.
00:18:23.040 I mean, are the police feminists as well as,
00:18:25.300 are they radical feminists as well as racists?
00:18:27.540 How do you explain that?
00:18:29.200 Or are men more likely to be killed by police
00:18:32.020 because they're more likely to commit violent crime,
00:18:34.360 which in turn increases the likelihood of an explosive interaction with cops?
00:18:38.940 Now, if the latter is the case,
00:18:40.960 when it comes to the men versus women disparity,
00:18:44.220 and we all probably agree that it is,
00:18:46.520 then why can't the same explanation be applied to the racial disparities
00:18:50.340 as to the sex disparities?
00:18:52.660 Why not?
00:18:53.520 If the problem of police brutality affects white people and black people,
00:19:00.680 and if it persists even under black leadership,
00:19:03.160 and even at the hands of black cops,
00:19:05.080 then it would seem that we need to search for an answer
00:19:08.120 other than racist cops are hunting black folks.
00:19:11.340 That's what it would really seem like.
00:19:13.840 Now, I believe there is a problem with policing in this country.
00:19:18.240 You know, what happened to George Floyd and Tony Timpa and Daniel Shaver?
00:19:21.740 That was unacceptable, outrageous, happens far too often.
00:19:26.300 But I'm not going to pretend that I think the racial narrative is true
00:19:31.520 because it's not true.
00:19:35.140 The problem is not racist cops.
00:19:37.960 There is no evidence for that.
00:19:40.140 And there's a lot of evidence to the contrary.
00:19:44.280 And the truth matters.
00:19:46.720 The truth matters.
00:19:48.220 It matters now more than ever.
00:19:49.660 However, this is not like splitting hairs or being pedantic.
00:19:58.840 This is the truth, and it's very important.
00:20:02.840 The truth is that the racial narrative offered as an explanation for this problem
00:20:06.840 ignores the facts on the ground, is incoherent,
00:20:11.700 fails as a theory, and is promoted by race hustlers operating in bad faith
00:20:16.460 and for their own ideological and political ends.
00:20:19.460 That's the truth.
00:20:22.400 And from there, we will move on to headlines.
00:20:27.060 Number one, as looting and rioting gripped hold of the country for, what was it,
00:20:33.400 I think it was the seventh day in a row, eighth or seventh or eighth,
00:20:37.820 President Trump finally addressed the nation yesterday
00:20:39.880 and said that we should mobilize the military.
00:20:43.800 And then he took a walk down the street and visited the church that had been set on fire
00:20:48.440 the night before.
00:20:49.500 Now, the left was very upset about this, obviously, as to be expected,
00:20:53.820 very offended by the photo op.
00:20:55.940 They also claimed, this is the claim that we got all over the Internet and the media last night,
00:21:01.320 the claim was that cops cleared out a bunch of peaceful protesters with tear gas canisters
00:21:07.740 in order for Trump to walk through and do his photo op.
00:21:10.720 Well, come to find out today, the police department was asked about this,
00:21:18.700 and they said that, no, we didn't use tear gas.
00:21:20.560 We used smoke canisters.
00:21:21.640 There's no irritant in it.
00:21:22.780 It's not going to hurt anybody.
00:21:24.180 And we did it because they were throwing stuff at us.
00:21:26.480 And, oh, by the way, we didn't even know Trump was coming.
00:21:28.300 We didn't do it for Trump.
00:21:31.120 So, you know, that story was true, except for the fact that everything about it was untrue.
00:21:36.420 Now, you know, personally, the photo op and everything, I'm not offended by that.
00:21:39.720 I think it's a good move.
00:21:41.080 I like the speech.
00:21:42.500 I think it's all pretty good.
00:21:43.820 The only problem is that it's about six days too late.
00:21:46.380 And I understand that in recent years, the tradition is to give rioters and looters about a week,
00:21:51.180 you know, a free week to do whatever the hell they want and destroy whatever they want.
00:21:54.140 That's what we've been doing ever since Ferguson.
00:21:56.400 But that is not a tradition that we should carry on with, you know.
00:22:00.340 And that's not a tradition that Trump should observe, in my opinion.
00:22:04.760 As for bringing in the military, yes, do it.
00:22:06.940 I mean, do it yesterday.
00:22:07.860 Do it last week.
00:22:09.720 Anarchists and domestic terrorists are destroying communities all over the country.
00:22:14.960 And these are not fringe elements.
00:22:17.400 This is, despite what we are told, this is all over the country.
00:22:22.480 Yes, bring in the military.
00:22:25.480 You know, we use the military to restore order and address these kinds of issues in foreign cities
00:22:31.580 to protect foreign citizens of those cities, you know, in places like Afghanistan and Syria and Iraq.
00:22:37.640 Well, why not this country?
00:22:39.420 Isn't that a novel concept?
00:22:40.740 Use the military to protect American citizens.
00:22:43.700 Not citizens of Afghanistan or Iraq.
00:22:47.220 American citizens.
00:22:50.120 I mean, people are so shocked by the idea of sending in the military.
00:22:53.420 Because we've gotten so used to this concept of using our military to protect other people in other countries.
00:23:02.480 Using our military to protect other people of other countries.
00:23:06.180 We've gotten so used to that that we think that that's what the military is for.
00:23:09.240 That's not what the military is for.
00:23:10.780 The military is to protect us.
00:23:13.600 It's our military.
00:23:15.360 It's not Afghanistan's military.
00:23:17.360 It's not Iraq's military.
00:23:18.160 It's our military.
00:23:20.740 Number two, a video went viral yesterday, first shared by a reporter from The Gothamist.
00:23:25.260 Jake Offenharts was his name.
00:23:28.540 And I'll show you the video in a second.
00:23:29.880 Here's the caption he offered on Twitter.
00:23:31.440 It says,
00:23:31.620 Sounds pretty scary.
00:23:43.220 Okay, you've got a, according to him, officer just pulling his gun out.
00:23:48.640 Peaceful protesters.
00:23:49.700 What's going on?
00:23:50.380 Let's take a look at the video.
00:23:51.260 Jeez, why was that guy, that officer, pointing a gun at peaceful protesters?
00:24:09.220 I mean, this just proves, this proves that we've got all these crazy homicidal cops out there.
00:24:17.240 Well, no, actually it doesn't.
00:24:19.220 Because, you know, our friend Jake here, he accidentally cut off the first part of the video.
00:24:25.580 Okay, totally by accident, I'm sure.
00:24:27.060 Totally by accident.
00:24:28.360 Not because he's a piece of garbage.
00:24:30.020 No, it couldn't be that.
00:24:31.580 It's a coincidence that he forgot to include the part where a peaceful protester sneaks up behind a police officer and beats him over the head with a brick.
00:24:39.280 But I have that part, and I'll show it to you here.
00:24:41.160 Here's the full video with the part that our friend Jake forgot to include.
00:24:45.560 Here it is.
00:24:47.080 Hey, you can chill, bro.
00:24:49.220 Hey, you can chill, bro.
00:25:19.960 And then that's why they pulled the gun out.
00:25:21.840 All right.
00:25:22.160 Well, the clip that cuts that part out, the context, the clip that Jake Offenhart shared, has millions of views.
00:25:29.680 And he had to take the time and the effort to go in and trim this thing down to only include the reaction from the officer and not the thing that he was reacting to.
00:25:38.260 This obviously is deliberate.
00:25:40.100 And think about how evil it is.
00:25:42.740 Okay, we've already got chaos in the streets.
00:25:45.380 People are already being attacked.
00:25:47.220 Police are being attacked and run over.
00:25:49.020 Four police officers were shot in St. Louis last night.
00:25:53.020 So Jake here goes and deliberately tries to stoke more aggression, more hostility towards the police by lying and by distorting.
00:26:02.320 One, he's trying to get cops killed.
00:26:04.660 This is pure evil.
00:26:05.540 This is a bad person engaging in pure evil for his own selfish reasons.
00:26:11.900 Number three, and now a word from the illustrious publication Teen Vogue, one of my favorites.
00:26:17.540 You know, I've got a subscription.
00:26:19.500 I always read Teen Vogue when they come in.
00:26:22.260 And they shared one of their articles today titled, Here's What Antifa is Really Trying to Do.
00:26:26.520 And the article says, the excerpt of the article says, Antifa grows out of a larger revolutionary politics that aspires towards creating a better world.
00:26:34.460 But the primary motivation is to stop racists from organizing.
00:26:39.580 Creating a better world, yes.
00:26:41.240 Well, I guess it depends on how you define better.
00:26:44.280 If a bunch of burned out stores and anarchy in the streets and innocent people being beaten unconscious is an improvement in your mind,
00:26:51.840 then yes, Antifa has certainly made the world a better place.
00:26:54.620 But then in that case, you're a psychopath.
00:26:57.560 Well, I guess I should stop myself.
00:26:59.460 No, because the people at Teen Vogue or elsewhere in the media who make excuses for and lend rhetorical support to or even practical support to domestic terrorists are not psychotic, actually.
00:27:11.340 They are not mentally ill.
00:27:12.640 They are not stupid either, despite appearances.
00:27:15.680 They know what they're doing.
00:27:17.600 And that's what makes this so evil.
00:27:19.840 For example, another example, moving on to number four.
00:27:22.460 I want you to watch this, this, I don't know what you call it, news report?
00:27:27.340 Is that what this is pretending to be?
00:27:29.160 I don't know.
00:27:29.520 But watch this from CNN a couple nights ago.
00:27:32.180 And here is Don Lemon, or sorry, I don't think it's Don Lemon, one of them over there,
00:27:38.020 talking to a quote-unquote reporter on the ground.
00:27:41.940 Watch.
00:27:42.200 I know people see violence and think that people are just taking advantage of the situation, and there may be some people who are.
00:27:50.280 I don't know that every single person is doing this born out of pain, but I can tell you many people are.
00:27:57.280 We've seen it.
00:27:58.360 They don't know what to do with that emotion.
00:28:00.220 So their response, especially young folks, is to lash out.
00:28:05.820 And one of the young folks, we talked to him on your show.
00:28:08.500 You had him on your show.
00:28:10.540 A young man who was from Minneapolis who said, do you see all this damage here?
00:28:15.660 You don't listen to us when we speak, so you listen to us now, don't you?
00:28:19.700 So acting out gets attention, and they know that because the other way hasn't gotten them the attention.
00:28:28.620 It hasn't done anything.
00:28:29.560 It hasn't changed anything.
00:28:31.260 So they're hoping this will.
00:28:33.180 Will it?
00:28:33.920 I don't know.
00:28:34.980 I was in Ferguson in 2014 for three months.
00:28:37.540 We're back here again.
00:28:38.820 Same scenario, just about.
00:28:40.820 There wasn't a gun involved.
00:28:42.100 There was a knee involved.
00:28:43.640 Born from pain.
00:28:45.400 Pain, yes.
00:28:46.100 These people are in such pain.
00:28:47.380 Such pain they're suffering from.
00:28:51.560 Actually, let me play another report for you.
00:28:53.220 This is from CBS.
00:28:54.340 And here we can see, just, you know, she's talking about the pain these people are in.
00:28:58.020 Well, here is some of these in-pain people lashing out in their despair and anguish.
00:29:04.180 And let's take a look at what that looks like.
00:29:09.480 I'm Jonathan Vigliotti in Southern California, the site of some of the worst looting in America.
00:29:14.860 We saw it firsthand in Santa Monica.
00:29:16.960 This is a sushi store here.
00:29:18.560 You can see the chairs were thrown around.
00:29:20.280 Even the computers ripped off.
00:29:23.120 And here we have a jewelry store.
00:29:25.300 So across the street, we've got the Patagonia.
00:29:29.260 What you're seeing is people of all ages, all backgrounds, helping themselves, using Black Lives Matter as the reason it is throughout Santa Monica.
00:29:40.660 Such pain.
00:29:42.940 Look at the pain on these people's faces as they steal surfboards.
00:29:49.080 They're weeping.
00:29:51.320 Weeping for the life of George Floyd as they run into the destroyed stores and run off with arms full of product.
00:29:56.920 Right?
00:29:57.060 Can we just get a, actually, can we get a still, a still shot, a screenshot at six seconds on that video?
00:30:04.100 So there you go.
00:30:05.780 I just want to focus on this guy for a second.
00:30:07.740 He's got a bunch of boxes there.
00:30:09.240 What are the shoes, shoe boxes?
00:30:10.740 I don't know what that is.
00:30:12.260 Who knows?
00:30:14.300 Assume there's stuff inside those boxes.
00:30:17.200 The point is, don't you see the pain this man is in?
00:30:21.520 The pain, the grief, the agony.
00:30:24.300 You can see it, right?
00:30:26.000 It's written all over him.
00:30:29.120 No, you don't, actually, because he's not in pain.
00:30:32.340 He's inflicting pain.
00:30:34.480 He is stealing.
00:30:35.660 He's a thief.
00:30:36.560 He's a criminal.
00:30:37.360 He's a lowlife.
00:30:38.140 He's a scumbag.
00:30:38.920 Everyone running out of that store, all the rest of them, who are looting stores across the country.
00:30:46.220 And the thing is, even if they were in pain, I don't care.
00:30:51.480 That's what I said yesterday.
00:30:52.780 I'll say it again.
00:30:53.500 I'll say it every day while this is going on.
00:30:55.760 I don't care.
00:30:57.140 If you're in pain and you're looting a store, I don't care about your pain.
00:31:00.620 I don't care.
00:31:01.820 I don't care what you've been through.
00:31:03.640 Doesn't matter.
00:31:04.660 It is immaterial.
00:31:06.920 No sympathy.
00:31:07.720 I don't want to hear your story.
00:31:11.800 You know, your emotions are irrelevant.
00:31:14.840 In fact, I hope you're in pain.
00:31:16.960 I hope you're in pain from the guilt and the shame that you should feel.
00:31:21.280 Pain from the realization of what an absolute scumbag you are.
00:31:25.180 I hope you feel that pain for your own sake so that you can improve and actually become a decent human being and not live your whole life like this.
00:31:34.540 Not live your life as the kind of person who would see, you know, a store that's been destroyed and think, let me run in and get my share of that.
00:31:47.340 That's a miserable way to live.
00:31:48.820 And if you're actually looking, I mean, you know, I just can't imagine doing that and getting home and catching a glimpse in the mirror and thinking, this is who I am.
00:31:58.840 This is the kind of person I am.
00:32:00.780 I am just a scumbag.
00:32:02.100 I'm a low-life, horrible person that I would do that.
00:32:05.760 So I can't imagine having to confront that.
00:32:07.820 If you actually confront it, yeah, there's going to be a lot of pain.
00:32:10.420 You're going to feel a lot of pain.
00:32:11.260 And I hope you feel that pain for your own sake because that's the only way you're ever going to improve.
00:32:15.400 But I suspect that you don't feel it because you're a bad person.
00:32:19.280 And bad people don't feel pain or guilt or shame for the bad things they do.
00:32:26.100 Now, CNN is running cover for these people, coming up with elaborate excuses.
00:32:32.640 You know, and by the way, she says they're lashing out.
00:32:35.060 They want to be heard.
00:32:35.960 And, you know, the one, the one, quote, unquote, protester says, well, you hear us now.
00:32:39.700 You're paying attention.
00:32:40.380 No, we don't hear you now, actually.
00:32:42.620 We're not paying attention.
00:32:45.100 Whatever supposed message you have, we're actually not paying attention to it.
00:32:49.280 We care about it less now than we did before.
00:32:53.300 Your chance to be heard was before you set the place on fire.
00:32:57.600 If you didn't do that, then I'd listen to it.
00:32:59.320 Once you do that, I don't hear anything.
00:33:00.920 I don't hear anything you say.
00:33:01.860 I don't care about anything you say.
00:33:05.720 But I do wonder, though, that reporter or whatever we call her, who was talking about the pain, you know,
00:33:11.580 what if somebody burned her house to the ground, stole all her stuff?
00:33:16.840 Would she excuse it?
00:33:17.920 Would she tolerate it?
00:33:18.620 Would she understand it?
00:33:20.520 Because the arsonist is in pain?
00:33:23.080 What do you think?
00:33:25.220 You know, somebody shows up at her house with a torch in the middle of the night.
00:33:29.760 What do you think she does?
00:33:30.540 Oh, look at that person in pain.
00:33:31.800 There ain't so much pain.
00:33:32.620 Yeah, go ahead and just burn it.
00:33:33.800 Burn it.
00:33:34.080 Burn it down.
00:33:34.720 I get it.
00:33:35.820 I get it.
00:33:36.260 You're trying to send a message.
00:33:36.960 I understand.
00:33:37.380 You see, it's really easy for people at CNN and elsewhere in the media to be understanding and tolerant about the destruction of other people's property.
00:33:47.900 Very easy.
00:33:49.360 It takes nothing.
00:33:50.500 It takes nothing.
00:33:50.820 No sacrifice.
00:33:51.640 All it takes is a narcissistic lack of concern, a lack of empathy for real victims.
00:33:57.140 And if you have that, if you have that level of narcissism, yeah, you can tolerate and understand crime all day long.
00:34:04.360 But the moment it comes for you, everything changes, doesn't it?
00:34:09.140 You know, that quote unquote reporter, someone comes to her house to burn it down.
00:34:14.340 She's not going to be understanding.
00:34:16.160 She's not going to care about their pain.
00:34:17.580 And what is she going to do?
00:34:18.460 She's going to call the cops.
00:34:20.120 She's going to call the racist cops to come help her, isn't she?
00:34:25.820 Finally, here's a video that I'm told is inspirational and heartwarming.
00:34:28.900 I don't know.
00:34:29.320 Maybe I'm just cynical.
00:34:30.700 But you take a look and tell me.
00:34:32.080 I'm interested in your take on this.
00:34:34.940 Go ahead.
00:35:02.080 Years and years of racism.
00:35:05.220 Okay.
00:35:08.500 Now, in fairness, after that part, the black people in the crowd did join the white people in kneeling and praying.
00:35:15.620 Okay.
00:35:15.780 So I don't want to be guilty of cutting stuff off.
00:35:17.940 That does happen next.
00:35:20.020 And that part's great.
00:35:22.640 You know, kneeling together and praying, I'm all about that.
00:35:25.620 Great stuff.
00:35:26.140 But kneeling before a group of people, actually kneeling to them, which is what appears to be happening here, and begging for their forgiveness, that is, to me, is not inspirational.
00:35:39.920 And it's not heartwarming.
00:35:41.620 That is groveling.
00:35:42.920 It's pitiful.
00:35:43.720 It is idol worship.
00:35:44.640 If you want to kneel together, again, fantastic.
00:35:49.340 I'm all for it.
00:35:50.760 But one race literally kneeling to the other, that is not equality.
00:35:55.800 It's not going to fix anything.
00:35:59.000 Groveling and self-flagellation and self-loathing, that is not going to fix anything.
00:36:03.640 I can tell you that.
00:36:04.320 It's only going to make it worse.
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00:37:50.840 Now, today for our daily cancellation, we are canceling the FBI.
00:37:54.720 And the reason, there are many, the FBI has given us many reasons over the years, especially recently, to cancel it.
00:38:00.280 But right now, the reason is this, this tweet that was sent out yesterday from the FBI's official Twitter account.
00:38:06.140 It says, at the FBI, we know that diversity makes us stronger.
00:38:10.340 During hashtag Pride Month, the FBI celebrates the contributions of our LGBT colleagues as, who have, who have made, the contributions that our LGBT colleagues have made to our country and our mission.
00:38:22.060 Okay.
00:38:23.640 So just to review, domestic terrorists are invading our cities, burning buildings, attacking police officers, throwing the country into the grip of anarchy, chaos, violence, trying to fundamentally destroy our society.
00:38:37.260 And the FBI is instead focused on Gay Pride Month and the wonders of diversity.
00:38:44.120 That's what they're telling us about right now.
00:38:46.040 That's what they're focused on, just to be clear.
00:38:49.600 But, you know, I do kind of actually appreciate, as much as I'm, as much as I'm canceling the FBI for this, I also appreciate that Gay Pride Month is happening right now, in the middle of widespread riots, and also in the middle of a pandemic and everything else, at a moment in history that is truly unprecedented in many ways.
00:39:07.700 Because, I'll tell you why I appreciate it, because it just, it throws into sharp relief the vapidity, the silliness of the whole thing of Gay Pride Month, the concept.
00:39:17.400 Because who's concerned about this right now?
00:39:21.780 Right?
00:39:21.980 Who gives a damn about celebrating Gay Pride at a time like this?
00:39:26.960 We're struggling to hang on to our civilization and our LGBT activists off on the sidelines saying, hey guys, not to interrupt, but did I tell you I'm gay?
00:39:36.720 Did I mention that?
00:39:37.680 Just wanted to, okay, get back to, I just wanted to let, just wanted to let you know.
00:39:40.400 Get back to trying to save civilization, but just, you know, just so you know, my sexual orientation.
00:39:46.320 I don't know.
00:39:46.900 If you wanted to applaud me, go ahead.
00:39:49.520 I'm not going to insist.
00:39:50.560 Actually, I do insist.
00:39:53.040 By the way, the tweet says, we know that diversity makes us stronger.
00:39:56.300 Really?
00:39:56.560 How so?
00:39:57.660 How does it make us stronger?
00:39:59.180 I mean, in what way has the FBI gotten better, stronger, through diversity?
00:40:04.840 I'm not saying it hasn't.
00:40:06.240 I'm just asking.
00:40:07.460 I'm asking in what way it has.
00:40:09.080 Can you provide some sort of, I mean, that's the theme of this show, evidence.
00:40:12.640 Do you have evidence for this?
00:40:14.460 This is another popular claim.
00:40:16.260 I'm just wondering if there's any evidence for it whatsoever.
00:40:18.940 Is there any reason to believe that this is true, that diversity makes us stronger, especially sexual orientation diversity?
00:40:26.140 Could anybody at the FBI explain that one?
00:40:28.300 I would just like to know what the explanation is.
00:40:30.300 That's all.
00:40:30.960 I'm asking for the evidence.
00:40:32.260 Give me specific, quantifiable ways in which the FBI is better at performing its job because of the diversity of sexual orientations within its ranks.
00:40:44.640 I'd like to hear that.
00:40:46.940 That's all.
00:40:47.580 And again, you know, maybe it is, but I'd like for someone, anyone, anyone who goes around prattling on about diversity is our strength, I'd like for any of them to actually offer some kind of evidence to support that assertion.
00:41:05.480 When you say diversity is our strength, diversity makes us better, diversity makes us stronger.
00:41:10.060 Or, okay, how so?
00:41:12.980 That's my follow-up question.
00:41:14.660 How so?
00:41:17.360 Now, if what you mean to say is that you think it's most ethical and most moral and most right, you know, to focus on diversity or something like that, then say that.
00:41:28.200 That's a very different claim.
00:41:29.740 But if you claim that your focus on diversity actually makes us as a people or you as an organization verifiably, quantifiably better and stronger, then you need to show some receipts, okay?
00:41:45.460 Of course, even if they did just mean that focusing on diversity is ethical, I would still disagree.
00:41:56.180 And here's what I'm going to say.
00:41:57.520 And this is also heretical, another theme of the show, you know, heresies of the common narratives, political incorrectness.
00:42:05.360 That's a theme of every show.
00:42:07.220 So I know this is an awful thing to say.
00:42:09.100 We're not supposed to say it, but I will.
00:42:12.020 Diversity in itself doesn't matter.
00:42:15.420 Diversity in itself is meaningless.
00:42:18.580 You know, getting a whole bunch of people of different races, nations, and creeds together and orientations, that in itself is not automatically praiseworthy.
00:42:27.540 That doesn't automatically mean anything.
00:42:30.180 What really matters is that you are getting everyone together.
00:42:34.000 You know, it's what you're getting everyone together to do.
00:42:37.680 So you can throw a bunch of people in a room and they all look different, have different orientations, everything's different, a lot of diversity.
00:42:44.420 So great.
00:42:46.060 Okay.
00:42:46.760 Now what?
00:42:47.880 What is it that we're doing?
00:42:49.700 And if it's the FBI, then I guess we're getting them together to investigate federal crimes.
00:42:56.000 Are we better now at investigating federal crimes?
00:42:59.180 No, if the goal is to investigate federal crimes, then your focus should be on finding the people who are the best at performing that specific task.
00:43:10.900 It is the Federal Bureau of Investigation.
00:43:13.000 Now, their race and creed and orientation is immaterial.
00:43:19.760 If all the best people happen to be white, so be it.
00:43:23.820 That's the way the cookie crumbles.
00:43:25.660 If they all happen to be black, so be it.
00:43:28.400 If they all happen to be Native American, Korean, if they all happen to be polyamorous Australian transsexuals, whatever it is.
00:43:36.880 What matters in this context is the task at hand and who is best suited to perform it.
00:43:45.180 Though I do admit, of course, an FBI comprised solely of polyamorous Australian transsexuals does sound pretty interesting.
00:43:52.280 Maybe it would make for an interesting sitcom or something.
00:43:54.660 I don't know if there would be enough to actually fill an entire FBI.
00:43:58.500 Anyway, in any case, that's what it's about.
00:44:02.520 You know, if you're saying we need diversity, I think it's fair to follow up with a question of, for what?
00:44:13.000 We need diversity.
00:44:14.000 Okay, for what?
00:44:14.920 What are we doing?
00:44:16.060 Tell me what we're doing, and then we'll figure this thing out.
00:44:18.080 And I think most of the time, what you're going to find is that what we really need, whatever the context, what we really need are just people who are good at doing that thing, whatever it happens to be.
00:44:33.000 And many times what you're going to find is that if you focus on merit and you focus on who's best at actually doing the thing that we're trying to do, you're going to end up with some amount of diversity.
00:44:50.240 That is usually the way that particular cookie happens to crumble.
00:44:54.460 It's just it might not be exactly, you know, in line with different quotas and everything else.
00:45:00.640 It might not work that way, but you'll end up with some of that.
00:45:06.400 And that's great because then, you know what you have then?
00:45:09.380 You have something like an actual meaningful diversity because you've got a bunch of people together, you're focused on merits, you've got the best of the best doing it, and they happen to be, you know, have different backgrounds and everything else, so they're bringing different perspectives to it.
00:45:24.380 Great.
00:45:25.540 Good stuff.
00:45:26.200 But if you're focused more on the background and the demographics and that's what you're, if you're starting with that, then you're just going to have, you're going to be ineffective, ineffective.
00:45:45.200 I'm ineffective, I can't even say, I can't even speak, I'm ineffective, I'm a podcast host and I can't speak.
00:45:50.940 So that's my, that's my point about that.
00:45:53.060 And I think we will have to wrap it up there.
00:45:58.200 And we continue to pray for this country.
00:46:03.060 I think that's what we all need to be doing more of.
00:46:05.520 I need to be doing more of it.
00:46:06.600 We all need to be doing it because these are precarious times indeed.
00:46:11.240 So stay safe out there.
00:46:13.320 God bless.
00:46:14.080 Godspeed.
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