The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 496 - If This Is What A Peaceful Protest Looks Like, What Is A Non-Peaceful Protest？

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, many people, even conservatives, are claiming that the protests

00:00:04.880 are mostly peaceful and have an important message that we need to hear. Now, I think both of those

00:00:10.540 claims are delusional and also cowardly, and I'll explain why. And then five headlines,

00:00:16.420 including the retired police captain who was gunned down by rioters in St. Louis. 0.58

00:00:20.920 He's a black man. He was killed. Not the only black person to be killed in these riots. Do

00:00:26.400 their lives matter? It seems to the media they don't matter very much because the media is not

00:00:31.040 talking about it, but we're going to talk about that today, plus our daily cancellation and much

00:00:34.460 more. But we start here because there's something that I feel really needs to be said, and I want

00:00:40.240 to be very clear about this. Let me be at least one person to say, point blank, that I do not support

00:00:47.580 these protests. I don't think they're mostly peaceful. I don't support anything about them.

00:00:54.840 I don't support the peaceful elements. I don't support the violent elements. I don't support

00:00:59.620 any of it. Now, given that these, quote unquote, protests, and by the way, just every time you hear

00:01:05.200 me say protests today, in your head, apply the air quotes because I can't say, quote unquote,

00:01:10.060 protests every single time. That'll get old. So given that these protests have come packaged with

00:01:15.900 rioting and looting all across the country, and the nation has been in the grip of anarchy and chaos

00:01:21.480 and arson and murder for a week because of it, and given that, in fact, these BLM slash Antifa protests

00:01:29.120 are almost always violent everywhere all the time for years now, you know, it really shouldn't be

00:01:35.160 necessary for me to say that I don't support them. That should be a necessary thing for anyone to say,

00:01:41.460 especially as a conservative. It should be obvious, and there should be nothing bold or notable

00:01:46.020 about saying that, except that what I've noticed is even many conservatives, conservative commenters,

00:01:53.640 pundits, just normal conservative non-media people, many of them have gone out of their way

00:02:00.360 to say that while they condemn the rioting and the looting, they realize that the protest itself

00:02:07.360 is mostly peaceful. And anyway, they support the message of the peaceful protest. It's an important

00:02:12.720 message that we all need to hear. It's such an important message. In fact, just as an example of

00:02:17.920 what I'm talking about, I got into a back and forth with a woman named Ariel Davidson yesterday. She's a 0.99

00:02:23.260 staffer for, I think, Dan Crenshaw. And I have no beef with her or anything, okay, but her position

00:02:30.880 here is representative of what so many people on the right are saying. And so I just want to use this

00:02:37.020 as an example. So she tweeted, uh, it's possible to support the protests, recognize injustice,

00:02:43.120 seek dialogue, and condemn looting all at once. It's possible. I saw that and I responded, no,

00:02:50.340 I don't think it's possible to meaningfully condemn the looting while supporting the protest. The

00:02:54.000 looting and the rioting is inextricably linked with the protest. That's why it's happening in every

00:02:57.580 major city where there is a protest. That's not a coincidence. And then her response was the

00:03:03.120 rioters are individuals abusing the protest, which is why they come out nearly exclusively at night.

00:03:07.780 You're doing precisely what the left is doing, collapsing the distinction and condemning it all.

00:03:13.140 I think the rioting is abhorrent. I think the protests are important.

00:03:18.700 Okay. And like I said, my objective is not to pick on Ms. Davidson here, but I'm just using this as an

00:03:24.520 example. As far as her saying, you're doing what the left is doing, condemning it all. I don't know

00:03:29.600 what that means. The left certainly is not condemning it all. They're doing the exact opposite.

00:03:34.160 They're supporting and justifying all of it, rationalizing all of it. But in any case, the rest

00:03:41.620 of that, I've seen a lot of this from the left and right. This is another example of the right accepting,

00:03:48.200 adopting, promoting the talking points of the left. And this is something that right-wingers

00:03:54.840 are kind enough to do, generous enough to do, even as left-wing mobs are roving through our cities,

00:04:02.460 killing people and committing mass arson. You know, very generous and very kind, isn't it?

00:04:08.280 People on the right, we have a tendency to do that in general, to accept, to kindly and generously,

00:04:14.760 very tolerantly accept the talking points of the left. Well, we're doing it even now,

00:04:20.740 even as there are left-wing mobs destroying our cities. We're allowing the left to frame it,

00:04:29.080 to tell us how we should view this. The left says, no, I know you, well, here's what the left

00:04:36.460 is telling us. Yeah, you see all these roving mobs, killing people, setting things on fire,

00:04:41.000 stealing stuff, but this is mostly peaceful. And that is how you're supposed to see this.

00:04:47.140 And then so many people on the right say, oh, well, if you say so, if you say so,

00:04:51.740 then that must be the case. So there are two points about these protests that I want to make

00:04:57.460 here, even the peaceful variety. Let me tell you why I don't support them, which is to say,

00:05:03.620 by the way, that's to say I don't support the message of the protest. It's not to say I don't

00:05:11.260 support the right to peacefully protest. Obviously, I support anybody's right to stand outside

00:05:17.280 waving a sign around and shouting slogans. As far as I'm concerned, you can do that anytime you want,

00:05:23.440 anywhere you want. That's been my point for the last three months, even during the coronavirus. I

00:05:28.720 think you have a right to go out and protest. It's in the First Amendment, the right to peacefully

00:05:33.900 assemble. So I believe in that. I don't support your right to ransack a quick stop and set it a

00:05:41.280 blaze and steal a bunch of liquor. That I don't support. But as for the signs and slogans, sure.

00:05:47.420 Now, with that said, the issue with these protests is twofold. And I'm going to get to both of those

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00:07:23.560 I have to tell you, this argument, the following argument seems very weak to me. This argument

00:07:28.940 where you say, well, it was a peaceful protest, except for the entire city block set on fire,

00:07:34.320 dozens of stores looted, store owners beaten by two by fours, cops assaulted with bricks,

00:07:38.100 and bystanders murdered in cold blood on the sidewalk. Except for that, it was peaceful.

00:07:43.520 That's essentially the argument that even conservatives are making. It's delusional.

00:07:47.100 Now, if a protest that includes arson, murder, and looting, you know, if that's peaceful,

00:07:55.100 then I don't know what the word peaceful means. By definition, it would seem to me that is a not

00:08:01.200 peaceful protest. If you asked me to define what a not peaceful protest is, I would say, well,

00:08:08.520 it's that. I mean, turn on the news. That right there, that's what it is.

00:08:12.180 If these protests qualifies peaceful, then what does a protest have to do to be not peaceful?

00:08:20.980 If mass anarchy in the streets and turning places like Midtown Manhattan into war zones,

00:08:27.960 if that isn't enough to earn the label of a non-peaceful protest, then what the hell would?

00:08:32.960 What do you need to see? What do you need to see before you will admit that we have a situation

00:08:41.220 on our hands where this is a non-peaceful protest? Do you need, do you need, do they need to set off

00:08:49.720 a nuke? Do they need to literally just start nuking the entire city? Is that what we need to see?

00:08:55.100 I think even then, even if they set off a nuclear bomb in New York City, you would still have people

00:09:02.960 say, yeah, they nuked the entire city and killed, you know, 10 million people, but it was mostly

00:09:07.680 peaceful. Except for that, it was peaceful. And this is not just one time, okay? This is not one

00:09:17.660 example. The rioting isn't fringe. It isn't isolated. It's been this way for years. For

00:09:25.600 years, it's been this way. Has everybody forgotten? BLM came along and there was rioting in Ferguson

00:09:33.300 and Baltimore as soon as they came along. That's another reason why we can't blame this all on

00:09:37.760 Antifa. That's actually a safe thing to do. So watch out for conservatives out there saying

00:09:44.940 the violence is all happening from Antifa. These are all white Antifa people from the suburbs, 0.82

00:09:51.040 right? Causing all the violence. Yes, they are violence and they're involved in this. Yes, 0.98

00:09:56.320 that's true. But if you're trying to make this all about Antifa, then you're doing that because

00:10:01.660 it's safe and you, you know what you're doing because, uh, I don't know, everyone, everyone

00:10:07.680 else has forgotten, but I seem to remember a time when Antifa didn't exist and we had BLM protests

00:10:14.840 that where there was rioting and looting and all of this stuff. I mean, I seem to remember a BLM

00:10:20.720 protest in Dallas where five police officers were executed. Has everybody forgotten that?

00:10:30.860 And then Antifa is born and they're assault, they're assaulting people and rioting all over

00:10:35.400 the country as well. So you've got BLM, they come along, there's rioting, Ferguson, Baltimore,

00:10:40.100 um, other cities as well. And then we've got five cops being shot to death in Dallas. Antifa comes

00:10:47.480 more rioting. Now we join the two together and the country descends into full-blown anarchy.

00:10:54.140 And yet people are still looking at this and going, yeah, you know, peaceful. That's looks

00:10:58.720 peaceful to me. I don't know. As to me, when I think peace and harmony, I think that

00:11:02.940 no, these, uh, these aren't peaceful protests. These are not peaceful protests that happen to

00:11:10.520 coincidentally, accidentally by happenstance, turned violent, always everywhere, all the time

00:11:16.300 for years on end. No, these are violent demonstrations that happen to also include

00:11:23.640 some peaceful people. And those peaceful protesters, many of them, the actual peaceful ones,

00:11:28.120 they're not very, they're not really that peaceful because they support the violence.

00:11:32.400 They are happy to march alongside it. Here's a quick clip, uh, making this point. Here's Amy

00:11:38.240 Horowitz, uh, uh, interviewing some of the so-called peaceful protesters. And here's what they had to say

00:11:45.820 about all the violence. The media narrative has been that the protesters and the violence are

00:11:51.140 distinct, but the vast majority of protesters that I spoke to went out of their way to justify

00:11:56.760 in a non-socially distanced way, the anarchic orgy of violence.

00:12:01.920 We're just attacking big known businesses like Apple, Boost, uh, let's see, Target, 0.98

00:12:09.420 Walmart, Best Buy, all of that s***, Gucci, whatever the f*** y'all like, you better lock your door. 0.98

00:12:13.920 George Floyd. 0.98

00:12:14.160 This is us saying, hey man, you're not giving it to us, so we're going to take it.

00:12:19.040 Of course. What do you expect them to do?

00:12:21.720 Google, Microsoft, all that bulls***, that's all built up. That's all slavery money. 0.99

00:12:26.860 If anybody's a thief, it's America.

00:12:29.040 So when we take it back or we burn it down, yeah. We're getting back what's ours. You

00:12:33.020 won't give it up? Okay, you ain't having it no more.

00:12:35.880 But it's not just large corporations that have been attacked. Many small businesses that have

00:12:41.160 already been decimated by the coronavirus have been utterly destroyed. 0.98

00:12:45.540 If they didn't kill a black man, their stores wouldn't get burned down. 0.99

00:12:48.660 Do we have to burn it down to rebuild it without racism? 1.00

00:12:51.500 Yes.

00:12:52.060 And this also is not isolated. The excuse-making, the rationalizing, justifying of violence.

00:12:57.780 In fact, you hear basically the same damn thing from the media, from CNN. I played you the clip 0.94

00:13:01.680 yesterday of a CNN reporter making excuses, making basically the same argument.

00:13:05.980 Cuomo, Fredo, on CNN last night said that, you know, where is it written that protests have to be

00:13:17.600 polite and peaceful? In fact, let's play that clip for you. Let's play Chris Cuomo last night.

00:13:22.620 It is a sad day when we need curfews in our cities. America's major cities are filled with people

00:13:30.980 demanding this country become more fair, more just, and ironically, more united. Now,

00:13:38.200 too many see the protests as the problem. No, the problem is what forced your fellow citizens

00:13:44.800 to take to the streets, persistent and poisonous inequities and injustice. And please,

00:13:51.400 show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful.

00:13:55.900 Who says they have to be peaceful? Well, I don't know, the law? The law says that it's supposed to

00:14:00.480 be peaceful? The law says that you don't have the right to go out and be violent? You know,

00:14:06.200 that little old thing called the law? I know it's not being enforced right now, but it does exist.

00:14:12.180 So again, the peaceful version of this protest, by and large, supports the non-peaceful part of it.

00:14:18.600 They are two sides of the same coin. This idea that the vast majority of protesters are peaceful is so

00:14:27.360 Orwellian in its contradiction of the facts, so, so hallucinatory that it really, it makes me feel 0.52

00:14:35.100 like I'm surrounded by lunatics. And I feel that way all the time. I feel it, especially now in the

00:14:39.260 last few days, with the things people are saying about what we are all witnessing. Maybe I'm

00:14:46.880 hallucinating. I mean, is it, I guess that's possible. That I like take some LSD and I don't

00:14:52.840 know, maybe I'm hallucinating and there's not actually cities on fire. I, maybe I'm the crazy

00:14:58.020 one. No, cities are being set on fire across the country and everyone is just strolling by,

00:15:05.260 whistling to themselves, going, oh my, oh my, look at all those peaceful demonstrations. 0.97

00:15:10.860 What are you maniacs talking about? What peaceful demonstration? 0.92

00:15:17.340 Here's the thing. If the vast majority of protesters are peaceful, are truly peaceful,

00:15:23.700 as is claimed, there isn't going to be arson and looting and murder. How do I know that?

00:15:30.460 Well, because the vast majority of pro-life protesters are peaceful. And I have been to a lot of peaceful

00:15:37.140 pro-life protests. And there was none of this, none, not a single fire set, not a single person

00:15:45.080 hit with a brick. Amazing how that works. When you've actually got a vast majority of peaceful people

00:15:51.480 and they get together for a protest, guess what happens? They march and they sing and they pray and

00:15:57.320 they go home. The vast majority of second amendment advocates are peaceful and therefore every pro-gun

00:16:05.760 rally is peaceful. The vast majority of tea partiers were peaceful and therefore every single tea party

00:16:12.500 rally was peaceful. You see how this works? Well, it doesn't work the way for these protesters,

00:16:21.600 does it? What does that tell you about them? Second point here. I say I don't support the

00:16:31.620 protests, but what about the truly peaceful ones? I mean, even if the protests themselves are

00:16:36.780 fundamentally not peaceful, which I'm saying they are fundamentally not peaceful, it's true that some

00:16:42.220 of the people there aren't burning stuff or stealing stuff, right? What about them? Do I support them?

00:16:48.920 No, I don't. I don't support them either. My heart is not cheered and gladdened when I see the peaceful

00:16:57.000 ones walking and marching. No, it's not. I don't support them. And this is where it troubles me when

00:17:05.080 conservatives say that the peaceful protesters have an important message. Really? Do they? What is

00:17:12.000 their message? If you think their message is just that cops shouldn't be brutal and shouldn't commit

00:17:18.000 brutality, that's not their message. You might try actually listening to what they're saying.

00:17:26.760 Read the damn signs. Okay? Listen to the arguments they're making for what they're worth. 1.00

00:17:33.200 Let them speak for themselves. That is not their point. In fact, BLM is very open about what it

00:17:40.120 believes. Go to their website. They have their own website. You can go and look. See their list

00:17:46.440 of demands. I did just that. It's right there on the homepage. Let me read a little bit. This is

00:17:50.240 Black Lives Matter. Okay? And here's what the Black Lives Matter website says. It says,

00:17:57.060 George Floyd's violent death was a breaking point. An all too familiar reminder that for black people,

00:18:02.200 law enforcement doesn't protect or serve our or save our lives. They often threaten and take them.

00:18:07.560 Right now, Minneapolis and cities across the country are on fire and our people are hurting.

00:18:12.740 The violence against black bodies felt in the ongoing mass disobedience,

00:18:16.340 all while we grapple with a pandemic that is disproportionately affecting, infecting, and killing 0.96

00:18:20.700 us. We call for an end to the systemic racism that allows this culture of corruption to go unchecked

00:18:25.880 and our lives to be taken. We call for a national defunding of police. We demand investment in our

00:18:31.780 communities and the resources to ensure black people not only survive, but thrive. If you're with us,

00:18:36.440 add your name to the petition right now. Currently, we are fighting two deadly viruses. COVID-19 is

00:18:42.280 threatening our health. White supremacy is threatening our existence and both are killing 0.99

00:18:46.300 us every single day. Okay. So defund the police. America is systemically racist. Cops don't protect 0.99

00:18:55.680 or save black people. White supremacy is a deadly virus. Black people are killed every day by white 1.00

00:19:03.640 supremacists. These are the views of BLM. These are BLM protests. That America is a racist country. 1.00

00:19:12.980 That racist cops are out hunting black people. That we are fundamentally white supremacists. That there are 1.00

00:19:17.400 white supremacists killing black people in this country every single day. Which by the means, 1.00

00:19:22.160 by the way, means we should have at least what? 365 black victims of, of, of white supremacist 0.88

00:19:27.840 violence every year. That's what we should see. We don't see anything close to that, but, uh, 0.88

00:19:33.600 uh, that's the claim anyway. And that's just the beginning. We haven't even gotten to their views on,

00:19:38.820 on capitalism and everything else. And we've got conservatives saying, this is important.

00:19:44.540 This is an important message. You support this message. Really? Don't, don't try to backtrack

00:19:53.780 now and say, oh, I just support their right to, yes, we all support. Everybody supports the right

00:20:00.280 for people to march and hold signs. Well, at least now everybody supports. I mean, for the last three

00:20:04.700 months, a lot of people didn't support it, but, um, anyway, I support it. Okay. I've always supported

00:20:09.540 it. That's not what we're talking about. When you, when you say I support the protest, you are not

00:20:18.200 saying I support the right to protest. You are saying you support the message, which is why a

00:20:24.360 pro-abortion person would never say I support the March for Life. Okay. And if there was a shout

00:20:31.820 your abortion protest in Portland somewhere, I'm not going to say I support the shout your abortion 1.00

00:20:39.420 protest in Portland. Everybody would know what I mean by that, right? When you say that, what

00:20:43.780 you're saying is you support the message. And so all of these conservatives saying, I support the

00:20:49.620 message. I support, or I support the protest. You're saying you support the message of Black Lives

00:20:55.400 Matter. You support the message that America is fundamentally and systemically racist, that cops

00:21:01.080 are white supremacists out hunting for black people. Good God. I mean, I thought we believe that 1.00

00:21:08.960 America is not fundamentally racist and that though some cops are bad apples, the police are not by 0.99

00:21:13.800 and large, a bunch of racist thugs out looking for black men to murder. We better think that because 0.99

00:21:18.700 that's the reality. This stuff you're hearing from Black Lives Matter is delusional insanity. It is not

00:21:25.660 even close to true. They have no evidence for it. These are bald assertions that are not supported by

00:21:33.660 any of the facts. None of them. Don't just go along with it because they're upset and emotional.

00:21:44.680 I've actually had people tell me that. They've told me, well, you know, this might not be true,

00:21:49.500 but people's emotions are true and they feel this way. I don't care how you feel. The reality is the

00:21:56.540 reality. If you feel like a certain thing is a reality and it's not the reality, then the best thing I can

00:22:03.500 do for you is tell you that's not the reality. So if there's anyone out there that feels like

00:22:09.200 cops are involved in a racist conspiracy to execute black people, if you feel that way,

00:22:15.880 well, the best thing I can do is tell you the good news that that's not true at all and there is no 0.96

00:22:22.260 evidence for it at all. Well, you just go along with it and say, well, they feel that way.

00:22:28.880 And then what happens? You got police stations burned to the ground. Here's the thing. If it were

00:22:36.700 true that essentially policing is a white supremacist conspiracy, which is what BLM believes, 0.64

00:22:46.820 if that was true, then actually they'd be justified in burning down police. They should be burning down 0.96

00:22:51.440 more police stations. I mean, burning down the police station in Minneapolis would be like the only

00:22:55.820 justified thing they've done, but it's not true. That's why it's so damned important to say it's not

00:23:04.960 true. If we are buying into these lines and these lies, we might as well grab a brick and start smashing 0.90

00:23:19.080 windows too, because we are the left. We have joined them. We have given up on the truth.

00:23:23.680 We have let them completely tell the story of our society, write the narrative. And we've done it

00:23:31.740 for fear that otherwise they'll call us racist. I mean, we've given up on society because we're afraid

00:23:38.700 of people calling us names. Absolutely pathetic. I'm disgusted by it. Now let's move on to headlines. 1.00

00:23:51.440 Number one, it is interesting that a Black Lives Matter movement should be so deadly for black 1.00

00:23:58.400 lives, but that's where we are now. David Dorn was a 77-year-old black man in St. Louis, retired police

00:24:03.840 captain, good man by all accounts, good citizen. And we know that about him, by the way. This is not

00:24:10.620 just like anytime someone dies, we always hear what a great person they were, whether they were or not.

00:24:15.560 In this case, you know, we know that this was a good man because he, not only did he serve in a

00:24:22.520 distinguished capacity for so many years as a police captain, he showed up in downtown in St. Louis over

00:24:27.960 the weekend, despite being a 77-year-old man, you know, to try to stop looters from breaking into a

00:24:34.960 shop. This was a man who put his life on the line, who sacrificed his life. Think about that. I'm not

00:24:43.760 sure how long he served in the police force, presumably for decades. Gave so much of his life

00:24:50.060 to that. Retires. And if I'm him, I'm thinking, I'm retired. I'm out of here. I'm not going anywhere

00:24:56.980 near this crap. Okay. That's what I'm thinking as a selfish person. But him as a selfless person 0.99

00:25:02.780 thinks I'm going to jump right back into this because I'm not going to let this happen to my

00:25:07.320 city. He goes out and, um, and he's shot by one of the looters, apparently coming out with a TV,

00:25:13.240 shoot him in the gut. He bleeds to death on the sidewalk. There's video out there of it. It's,

00:25:19.300 and it's heart wrenching. It shows him lying there, bleeding, dying, someone else, not the shooter.

00:25:24.640 Uh, someone else is, is filming it, had, had already called the police. Apparently it was

00:25:28.720 waiting for the cops to show up. And you can hear this man shouting at the looters who murdered

00:25:34.760 Dorn saying, basically you did this all for a TV. You took a man's life for a TV. It's raw. You know,

00:25:41.860 it's very raw. It's very powerful. Uh, very hard to watch. I'm not going to play it because it's

00:25:46.800 graphic and bloody as well. But if you want to see the video, you can, you can find it. Dorn was not

00:25:51.320 the only, um, person, uh, or black person killed in the riots. David Underwood, security guard,

00:25:58.040 black man was murdered on Friday. Uh, another victim, 22 year old, Italia Marie Kelly, a biracial

00:26:04.260 woman shot by a protester. Here is Italia's sister on Facebook live shortly after her sister was

00:26:10.560 shot and killed. And here she is reacting as any sister would.

00:26:15.100 I'm waiting for everyone to get on. So I know, I hope y'all know what the f**k you did. 0.99

00:26:22.140 My sister is gone and it's not from a cop. It wasn't from no f**king cop. I don't get on live. 0.99

00:26:28.880 I don't care about this Facebook s**t, but my sister is gone because one of you, a protester, 0.98

00:26:35.040 shot my sister, a protester, not even the police, because you got it. I lost my sister. 0.99

00:26:42.260 I lost my sister because you. So I ask again, when are we just going to speak plainly about

00:26:49.920 this evil? I don't want to hear about the peacefulness of it, the legitimacy of the

00:26:55.060 message, the pain of the rioters. So tired of hearing that. What about her pain? What about

00:27:01.200 that woman? What about the pain of David Dorn's wife, whose husband led a distinguished heroic

00:27:07.220 life, was a good man, and died lying on a sidewalk, streamed live on Facebook? Now, what about him?

00:27:17.960 Did he deserve that kind of death? Does his life matter? All the Democrats,

00:27:26.660 Joe Biden apparently is going to go to George Floyd's funeral. You're going to go to David

00:27:32.820 Dorn's funeral? What about him? All these Democrats, you're going to show up to his funeral?

00:27:37.340 You're going to say anything about him? You're going to apologize to his wife for fomenting the

00:27:42.020 chaos that killed him? You're going to do that? No, you're not. Because you're a bunch of cowardly,

00:27:49.100 scumbag, garbage people. 1.00

00:27:54.240 Number two, dozens of, speaking of garbage people, dozens of public health experts, 0.99

00:27:58.760 again, air quotes, public health experts have signed a letter supporting the protests. 0.98

00:28:04.720 They said, quote, white supremacy is a lethal public health issue that predates and contributes

00:28:09.580 to COVID-19. At a certain point, you got to laugh because, you know, I have done enough screaming

00:28:16.160 already today. I'm going to have an aneurysm. I mean, where to even begin? Now, the letter goes on

00:28:22.540 and there's there's more and it's all just totally absurd. Where to even begin? Let's start with

00:28:27.700 white supremacy contributes to COVID-19. These are public health experts, supposedly. What?

00:28:38.520 We actually begin with white supremacy is a lethal public health issue. Is it? How so? I ask again, 0.93

00:28:44.320 how many people have actually been killed by white supremacists in like, I don't know, the last 30 years?

00:28:49.800 Tell me. Now, yes, if you're going to chalk every single police shooting up to white supremacy,

00:28:57.960 which is what BLM does, then sure, you've got, you could say that there have been, even then,

00:29:05.160 it wouldn't be nearly as many as they lead you to believe, but then you'd have hundreds of deaths.

00:29:10.560 But of course, that is delusional and insane. Once again,

00:29:13.280 contributes to COVID-19. How does that work? And aside from all of that, these are the same people

00:29:23.200 who told us that if you get together in large groups, many people will die because of it.

00:29:31.900 Grandma is going to die. People are going to be spreading the virus to people.

00:29:35.340 These are the same people who told us that. And now they've just discarded all of that. It never

00:29:42.900 happened. Meanwhile, if you believe black lives matter, and you also believe that large gatherings 1.00

00:29:53.380 are going to kill a lot of people, what are you doing encouraging large crowds, many of them black, 1.00

00:29:59.340 to come together? By your own thinking, aren't you encouraging them to infect themselves and die? 1.00

00:30:08.960 If you really believe what these public health experts have been saying for the last three months, 0.98

00:30:13.360 and you also believe that black lives matter, then what you would be saying is stay the hell home.

00:30:19.120 Don't gather. 0.73

00:30:21.960 Number three, here's some news from the Daily Star. It says an asteroid about the size of the Empire

00:30:28.080 State Building is rocketing towards Earth at 11,000 miles an hour. I always wonder why these kinds

00:30:34.940 of stories are always reported by these publications like Daily Star or, you know, I mean, it just seems

00:30:39.980 like this should be bigger news. But really, this is terrible news when you think about it. Asteroid the

00:30:45.920 size of the Empire State Building rocketing towards Earth. Very tragic. It's the last thing we need right

00:30:50.440 now. An asteroid that size isn't nearly big enough to do the job. Awful. Just our luck. Right when you

00:31:01.280 think we're off the hook, finally, it's coming. No, that's not going to do it. Not good enough.

00:31:09.140 Number four, here's some real good news. Finally, Grindr, the gay dating app, has announced that in a show 0.99

00:31:14.780 of solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement, it will remove the racial and ethnic filters from

00:31:20.280 their site. So that means that I guess you can't search for a particular race or ethnicity if you're

00:31:25.540 on Grindr, you know, looking for a date. And with this move, with this decision by Grindr, racial harmony

00:31:35.880 has fallen upon the land. And all is right in the world again. And there is peace. And there is

00:31:42.420 understanding. Grindr has saved us all. Inspiring stuff. Number five, here's something that's also

00:31:49.860 supposed to be inspiring, I guess. There was a clip like this that I played yesterday.

00:31:55.000 This one's even worse or even better, depending on if we're talking about from a comedic perspective,

00:31:59.400 then it's even better. But anyway, take a take a look at this. About racism, anti-Blackness,

00:32:06.100 or violence. About racism, anti-Blackness, or violence. I will use my voice in the most uplifting

00:32:13.540 way possible. I will use my voice in the most uplifting way possible. And do everything in my

00:32:19.920 power to educate my community. And do everything in my power to educate my community. I will love

00:32:26.500 my Black neighbors the same as my white ones. I will love my Black neighbors the same as my white ones. 0.73

00:32:32.120 I actually died of secondhand embarrassment watching that. I died right here. You didn't see it because

00:32:37.100 it was off air. And then God sent me back into this world as punishment for my sins. Because let's be

00:32:41.960 honest, right now this world is sort of indistinguishable from hell anyway. So here I am

00:32:47.020 again. And that video is just, I really think that we should replace the definition of cringe in the

00:32:55.620 dictionary with the URL of that video. This is literally the definition of cringe. It's also the

00:33:02.940 definition of creepy and cultish. What we're seeing here are people without religion, without purpose, 0.96

00:33:11.960 without direction, without an avenue or a channel for repentance, adopting the religion of left-wing 0.98

00:33:20.520 racialism and using white guilt as their outlet for repentance. That's what this is. 0.67

00:33:27.420 These are creepy cultish weirdos. So when you look at these protests, you know,

00:33:31.260 a lot of the peaceful ones are creepy cultish weirdos. And then you've got the other ones that

00:33:36.420 are burning down buildings. It's almost like the ones burning down buildings are more normal.

00:33:40.720 Somehow, somehow the ones burning buildings managed to be a little bit less creepy than what you just

00:33:47.520 saw there. This is, this is not it. This is just not it, folks. And it's, it's, it's not going to

00:33:56.900 solve anything. And I, I tell you also, um, if you're a white person literally on your knees with your 0.91

00:34:05.240 hands up repeating whatever the black lives matter, uh, you know, person is telling you it, if you 0.89

00:34:14.720 think that's going to save you from accusations of being part of the white supremacist conspiracy or

00:34:22.180 white privilege, it won't. If you think it's going to save you from charges of bigotry, it won't.

00:34:27.320 And if you think that when the rioting mob comes to your neighborhood, it's going to save your house

00:34:32.320 from getting burned down. It won't just so you know, you'll lose your house like anybody else would, but

00:34:40.440 you've also lost your dignity ahead of time. So you're, you're left without a house or dignity. That's,

00:34:46.940 that's, that's the situation you're going to be in. Finally, here's a bonus video. I wanted to play

00:34:52.100 very quickly. I just, I have to play it. Um, no setup is really needed. Here it is. I feel like

00:34:58.620 this needs to be said, and I really wish that more people would connect these two dots, but black lives 1.00

00:35:05.580 matter and animal lives matter. Literally all sentient beings on this planet deserve a life free from fear,

00:35:15.900 free from abuse, free from unjust prosecution. No one, whether it's a human being, especially

00:35:25.340 ones with differently colored skin than yours, and animals who are different creatures than you. 0.99

00:35:33.160 If it's not their time to die, they don't deserve to die. So stop killing black people and stop killing 1.00

00:35:40.100 animals. Veganism, black lives matter movement. It's all the same fight, all of it. And it's 1.00

00:35:48.040 important. Each one of them is so individually important. I really hope that people can start

00:35:52.740 to connect the two. You know, I could be wrong, could be wrong, but something tells me this comparison

00:35:58.520 between black lives matter and animals isn't going to necessarily resonate like that woman thinks it 1.00

00:36:05.660 will. We'll see though. I don't know that, that, I don't know who that is. It's some, some vegan

00:36:11.440 Instagram person. I don't know, but she had, she had to come up with this whole speech and say to

00:36:17.860 herself, this is going to do, yeah, this is the thing as a people are going to love this.

00:36:25.080 Um, yeah, I don't, I don't think that's going to work out for her. Finally, let's go to our daily

00:36:28.500 cancellation. And today we are specifically canceling, uh, this guy, Carl T. Bergstrom. He's a

00:36:34.900 professor at university of Washington, but we're also canceling him for an argument that, that,

00:36:39.860 that he may, that many people have made. So actually we're canceling everyone who's made

00:36:43.160 this argument. Carl T. Bergstrom is just our example that we're using. Here's what he said.

00:36:48.700 Um, as protesters are being beaten and gassed in the streets, just a reminder that a couple of

00:36:54.000 weeks ago, this was tolerated inside a state Capitol without a blast of pepper spray, a raised baton, 0.89

00:36:59.380 the use of tear gas or any damn thing. Oh, and these guys had semi-automatic weapons. 0.74

00:37:04.040 And it's a picture of a lockdown protester seeming to scream at police officers. Of course,

00:37:09.440 this picture is misleading. Uh, he was not screaming at police officers. He was actually

00:37:13.340 screaming at people behind the cops, but that part is cut out. And then, and then this,

00:37:18.460 that particular picture went viral, um, courtesy of the left lying about it and saying that he was

00:37:23.920 getting in the face of the officer screaming at them. He wasn't. In fact, if you look at the,

00:37:26.660 at the picture, you can see clearly he is not looking at that police officer. He's looking behind

00:37:31.060 the police officer. But in any case, this is the argument. The argument is that whites, 0.64

00:37:37.300 white conservatives were able to protest with guns and nobody was gassed or shot. Yet these

00:37:43.760 protesters are in the street right now and they're getting tear gassed and shot with rubber bullets

00:37:47.220 and everything else. Isn't that racism? Isn't that bias? Well, no, because let me remind professor

00:37:54.820 Bergstrom that those protesters, despite having weapons, didn't hurt anybody, didn't burn anything,

00:38:02.420 didn't steal anything, didn't kill anyone, didn't throw any bricks, didn't bash anyone over the head

00:38:10.820 with a two by four, didn't set any cars on fire. Whereas the BLM protesters have done all of those 0.97

00:38:18.800 things relentlessly across the country for an entire week and actually for years. So do you

00:38:26.740 understand the difference, professor? I mean, you're the professor here. Okay. I didn't even go to

00:38:30.620 college. So I'm the idiot. You're the genius. Even despite that, despite my lack of a college 1.00

00:38:37.080 education, I can see the difference. You've got one group burning stuff and stealing stuff and hurting

00:38:44.380 people and killing people. And you've got another group doing none of that. And so the former group

00:38:52.300 gets a harsher response. Does that make any sense to you, professor? Can you kind of understand why

00:39:00.280 there might be, I mean, when you've got people holding scary guns and yelling, but not actually

00:39:07.500 hurting a single fly. And then you got other people over here, some of them hurting, some of them

00:39:13.980 actually holding guns and shooting people with them. And then others holding bricks and using

00:39:17.660 them to throw at people and others, you know, holding torches and setting stuff up. Do you

00:39:21.460 understand why that other group over there with all the violence that you see is, I don't know how

00:39:26.220 else to explain it to you, professor. I mean, the whole idea anyway, that, that police are being too harsh

00:39:35.920 in their response. I keep using the word delusional. That's like my, that's the key word of today, but

00:39:43.200 that's, it's again, delusional. Police in many cities did absolutely nothing for a week.

00:39:52.360 And it's not their fault. I think they were, they were told to stand down. They were in many cities,

00:39:56.340 they were hands tied behind the back. But in many cities, these rioters were given a week

00:40:05.220 to essentially destroy and steal and assault at will with no repercussions.

00:40:14.820 And then seven, eight days later, the cops finally show up and start enforcing. And you're

00:40:19.160 complaining that it's too harsh. What do you want, professor Bergstrom? Do you think that they

00:40:25.660 should be allowed to just riot for the next year? How long? Let me just ask you, maybe just,

00:40:32.480 just let us know. How long do you think rioters should be allowed to destroy stuff before the

00:40:38.780 cops respond? Apparently a week isn't long enough. So would two weeks do it? Three weeks?

00:40:45.640 What are you looking for?

00:40:49.720 No, the problem of course, from the police response, isn't that it's too harsh. It's that it's not

00:40:54.340 nearly harsh enough. Not even close to harsh enough. The very first person who threw a brick

00:41:03.160 in the very first city in Minneapolis, the first person who threw one brick in Minneapolis should 0.51

00:41:10.300 have been immediately tackled by police and arrested and hauled away. Right away.

00:41:16.400 Minneapolis should have had buses out there handcuffing people, chaining them up and marching them into 1.00

00:41:25.680 the buses if they were being violent. There should be zero tolerance for violence of this kind or of

00:41:35.260 any kind. And you know, you know something? That's what would happen to me. So all this stuff about

00:41:42.680 white supremacy, I tell you right now, if I grab a brick and I go into town 0.71

00:41:48.660 and I throw it at a person, at a building, at a car, I'm going to be arrested. I guarantee it. 0.99

00:41:59.540 There is zero chance that I'm not arrested. And if there's a cop nearby watching me do it,

00:42:06.040 I'll probably be arrested in a pretty harsh, painful manner, like tackled to the street,

00:42:11.600 head bashes against the concrete. Like that's what's going to happen if I do it.

00:42:20.240 And yet we've got, I mean, hundreds of people across the country who've been able to do this

00:42:25.240 with no repercussions. And you're saying that there's bias against them.

00:42:31.180 Yeah, there is bias here, professor, but it's bias in their favor.

00:42:38.660 Because again, they are being allowed to do stuff that I could never do. 1.00

00:42:45.700 Despite being a white person, tell you right now, I set a building on fire, my ass is going to jail. 0.99

00:42:51.440 But if you're part of one of these protests, apparently, and you set something on fire, 1.00

00:42:57.960 there's a very good chance you'll get to walk away.

00:43:01.300 Not just walk away, but you can walk away with a handful of stolen merchandise.

00:43:05.660 Not just that, but you can be on camera.

00:43:07.920 You can have your face on camera and walk away with stolen merchandise and there will be no arrest.

00:43:12.600 Yeah. Oh yeah. But there's bias against them. Sure. Okay. Thanks, professor.

00:43:19.120 Brilliant stuff, as always, from our illustrious professors at our institutions of higher education.

00:43:26.240 And we will leave it there for today.

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00:44:10.640 Hey, everyone. It's Andrew Klavan, host of the Andrew Klavan Show.

00:44:14.560 Here's my question for the media.

00:44:16.060 If the riots that are trashing our cities are mostly peaceful,

00:44:20.000 why can't we refer to the police as mostly non-racist?

00:44:23.540 Makes no sense to me, but we'll work it out.

00:44:25.980 And we've got the mostly peaceful mailbag,

00:44:28.660 which will set your world on fire with wisdom on the Andrew Klavan Show.

00:44:32.200 Thank you.

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The Matt Walsh Show - June 03, 2020

Ep. 496 - If This Is What A Peaceful Protest Looks Like, What Is A Non-Peaceful Protest？

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