Ep. 496 - If This Is What A Peaceful Protest Looks Like, What Is A Non-Peaceful Protest？
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Many people, even conservatives, are claiming that the protests are mostly peaceful and have an important message that we need to hear. Now, I think both of those claims are delusional and also cowardly, and I'll explain why.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, many people, even conservatives, are claiming that the protests
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are mostly peaceful and have an important message that we need to hear. Now, I think both of those
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claims are delusional and also cowardly, and I'll explain why. And then five headlines,
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including the retired police captain who was gunned down by rioters in St. Louis.
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He's a black man. He was killed. Not the only black person to be killed in these riots. Do
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their lives matter? It seems to the media they don't matter very much because the media is not
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talking about it, but we're going to talk about that today, plus our daily cancellation and much
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more. But we start here because there's something that I feel really needs to be said, and I want
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to be very clear about this. Let me be at least one person to say, point blank, that I do not support
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these protests. I don't think they're mostly peaceful. I don't support anything about them.
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I don't support the peaceful elements. I don't support the violent elements. I don't support
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any of it. Now, given that these, quote unquote, protests, and by the way, just every time you hear
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me say protests today, in your head, apply the air quotes because I can't say, quote unquote,
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protests every single time. That'll get old. So given that these protests have come packaged with
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rioting and looting all across the country, and the nation has been in the grip of anarchy and chaos
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and arson and murder for a week because of it, and given that, in fact, these BLM slash Antifa protests
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are almost always violent everywhere all the time for years now, you know, it really shouldn't be
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necessary for me to say that I don't support them. That should be a necessary thing for anyone to say,
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especially as a conservative. It should be obvious, and there should be nothing bold or notable
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about saying that, except that what I've noticed is even many conservatives, conservative commenters,
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pundits, just normal conservative non-media people, many of them have gone out of their way
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to say that while they condemn the rioting and the looting, they realize that the protest itself
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is mostly peaceful. And anyway, they support the message of the peaceful protest. It's an important
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message that we all need to hear. It's such an important message. In fact, just as an example of
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what I'm talking about, I got into a back and forth with a woman named Ariel Davidson yesterday. She's a
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staffer for, I think, Dan Crenshaw. And I have no beef with her or anything, okay, but her position
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here is representative of what so many people on the right are saying. And so I just want to use this
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as an example. So she tweeted, uh, it's possible to support the protests, recognize injustice,
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seek dialogue, and condemn looting all at once. It's possible. I saw that and I responded, no,
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I don't think it's possible to meaningfully condemn the looting while supporting the protest. The
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looting and the rioting is inextricably linked with the protest. That's why it's happening in every
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major city where there is a protest. That's not a coincidence. And then her response was the
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rioters are individuals abusing the protest, which is why they come out nearly exclusively at night.
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You're doing precisely what the left is doing, collapsing the distinction and condemning it all.
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I think the rioting is abhorrent. I think the protests are important.
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Okay. And like I said, my objective is not to pick on Ms. Davidson here, but I'm just using this as an
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example. As far as her saying, you're doing what the left is doing, condemning it all. I don't know
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what that means. The left certainly is not condemning it all. They're doing the exact opposite.
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They're supporting and justifying all of it, rationalizing all of it. But in any case, the rest
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of that, I've seen a lot of this from the left and right. This is another example of the right accepting,
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adopting, promoting the talking points of the left. And this is something that right-wingers
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are kind enough to do, generous enough to do, even as left-wing mobs are roving through our cities,
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killing people and committing mass arson. You know, very generous and very kind, isn't it?
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People on the right, we have a tendency to do that in general, to accept, to kindly and generously,
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very tolerantly accept the talking points of the left. Well, we're doing it even now,
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even as there are left-wing mobs destroying our cities. We're allowing the left to frame it,
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to tell us how we should view this. The left says, no, I know you, well, here's what the left
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is telling us. Yeah, you see all these roving mobs, killing people, setting things on fire,
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stealing stuff, but this is mostly peaceful. And that is how you're supposed to see this.
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And then so many people on the right say, oh, well, if you say so, if you say so,
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then that must be the case. So there are two points about these protests that I want to make
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here, even the peaceful variety. Let me tell you why I don't support them, which is to say,
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by the way, that's to say I don't support the message of the protest. It's not to say I don't
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support the right to peacefully protest. Obviously, I support anybody's right to stand outside
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waving a sign around and shouting slogans. As far as I'm concerned, you can do that anytime you want,
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anywhere you want. That's been my point for the last three months, even during the coronavirus. I
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think you have a right to go out and protest. It's in the First Amendment, the right to peacefully
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assemble. So I believe in that. I don't support your right to ransack a quick stop and set it a
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blaze and steal a bunch of liquor. That I don't support. But as for the signs and slogans, sure.
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Now, with that said, the issue with these protests is twofold. And I'm going to get to both of those
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I have to tell you, this argument, the following argument seems very weak to me. This argument
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where you say, well, it was a peaceful protest, except for the entire city block set on fire,
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dozens of stores looted, store owners beaten by two by fours, cops assaulted with bricks,
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and bystanders murdered in cold blood on the sidewalk. Except for that, it was peaceful.
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That's essentially the argument that even conservatives are making. It's delusional.
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Now, if a protest that includes arson, murder, and looting, you know, if that's peaceful,
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then I don't know what the word peaceful means. By definition, it would seem to me that is a not
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peaceful protest. If you asked me to define what a not peaceful protest is, I would say, well,
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it's that. I mean, turn on the news. That right there, that's what it is.
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If these protests qualifies peaceful, then what does a protest have to do to be not peaceful?
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If mass anarchy in the streets and turning places like Midtown Manhattan into war zones,
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if that isn't enough to earn the label of a non-peaceful protest, then what the hell would?
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What do you need to see? What do you need to see before you will admit that we have a situation
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on our hands where this is a non-peaceful protest? Do you need, do you need, do they need to set off
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a nuke? Do they need to literally just start nuking the entire city? Is that what we need to see?
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I think even then, even if they set off a nuclear bomb in New York City, you would still have people
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say, yeah, they nuked the entire city and killed, you know, 10 million people, but it was mostly
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peaceful. Except for that, it was peaceful. And this is not just one time, okay? This is not one
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example. The rioting isn't fringe. It isn't isolated. It's been this way for years. For
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years, it's been this way. Has everybody forgotten? BLM came along and there was rioting in Ferguson
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and Baltimore as soon as they came along. That's another reason why we can't blame this all on
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Antifa. That's actually a safe thing to do. So watch out for conservatives out there saying
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the violence is all happening from Antifa. These are all white Antifa people from the suburbs,
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right? Causing all the violence. Yes, they are violence and they're involved in this. Yes,
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that's true. But if you're trying to make this all about Antifa, then you're doing that because
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it's safe and you, you know what you're doing because, uh, I don't know, everyone, everyone
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else has forgotten, but I seem to remember a time when Antifa didn't exist and we had BLM protests
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that where there was rioting and looting and all of this stuff. I mean, I seem to remember a BLM
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protest in Dallas where five police officers were executed. Has everybody forgotten that?
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And then Antifa is born and they're assault, they're assaulting people and rioting all over
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the country as well. So you've got BLM, they come along, there's rioting, Ferguson, Baltimore,
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um, other cities as well. And then we've got five cops being shot to death in Dallas. Antifa comes
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more rioting. Now we join the two together and the country descends into full-blown anarchy.
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And yet people are still looking at this and going, yeah, you know, peaceful. That's looks
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peaceful to me. I don't know. As to me, when I think peace and harmony, I think that
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no, these, uh, these aren't peaceful protests. These are not peaceful protests that happen to
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coincidentally, accidentally by happenstance, turned violent, always everywhere, all the time
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for years on end. No, these are violent demonstrations that happen to also include
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some peaceful people. And those peaceful protesters, many of them, the actual peaceful ones,
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they're not very, they're not really that peaceful because they support the violence.
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They are happy to march alongside it. Here's a quick clip, uh, making this point. Here's Amy
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Horowitz, uh, uh, interviewing some of the so-called peaceful protesters. And here's what they had to say
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about all the violence. The media narrative has been that the protesters and the violence are
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distinct, but the vast majority of protesters that I spoke to went out of their way to justify
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in a non-socially distanced way, the anarchic orgy of violence.
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We're just attacking big known businesses like Apple, Boost, uh, let's see, Target,
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Walmart, Best Buy, all of that s***, Gucci, whatever the f*** y'all like, you better lock your door.
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This is us saying, hey man, you're not giving it to us, so we're going to take it.
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Google, Microsoft, all that bulls***, that's all built up. That's all slavery money.
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So when we take it back or we burn it down, yeah. We're getting back what's ours. You
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won't give it up? Okay, you ain't having it no more.
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But it's not just large corporations that have been attacked. Many small businesses that have
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already been decimated by the coronavirus have been utterly destroyed.
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If they didn't kill a black man, their stores wouldn't get burned down.
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Do we have to burn it down to rebuild it without racism?
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And this also is not isolated. The excuse-making, the rationalizing, justifying of violence.
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In fact, you hear basically the same damn thing from the media, from CNN. I played you the clip
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yesterday of a CNN reporter making excuses, making basically the same argument.
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Cuomo, Fredo, on CNN last night said that, you know, where is it written that protests have to be
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polite and peaceful? In fact, let's play that clip for you. Let's play Chris Cuomo last night.
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It is a sad day when we need curfews in our cities. America's major cities are filled with people
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demanding this country become more fair, more just, and ironically, more united. Now,
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too many see the protests as the problem. No, the problem is what forced your fellow citizens
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to take to the streets, persistent and poisonous inequities and injustice. And please,
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show me where it says that protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful.
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Who says they have to be peaceful? Well, I don't know, the law? The law says that it's supposed to
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be peaceful? The law says that you don't have the right to go out and be violent? You know,
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that little old thing called the law? I know it's not being enforced right now, but it does exist.
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So again, the peaceful version of this protest, by and large, supports the non-peaceful part of it.
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They are two sides of the same coin. This idea that the vast majority of protesters are peaceful is so
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Orwellian in its contradiction of the facts, so, so hallucinatory that it really, it makes me feel
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like I'm surrounded by lunatics. And I feel that way all the time. I feel it, especially now in the
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last few days, with the things people are saying about what we are all witnessing. Maybe I'm
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hallucinating. I mean, is it, I guess that's possible. That I like take some LSD and I don't
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know, maybe I'm hallucinating and there's not actually cities on fire. I, maybe I'm the crazy
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one. No, cities are being set on fire across the country and everyone is just strolling by,
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whistling to themselves, going, oh my, oh my, look at all those peaceful demonstrations.
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What are you maniacs talking about? What peaceful demonstration?
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Here's the thing. If the vast majority of protesters are peaceful, are truly peaceful,
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as is claimed, there isn't going to be arson and looting and murder. How do I know that?
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Well, because the vast majority of pro-life protesters are peaceful. And I have been to a lot of peaceful
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pro-life protests. And there was none of this, none, not a single fire set, not a single person
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hit with a brick. Amazing how that works. When you've actually got a vast majority of peaceful people
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and they get together for a protest, guess what happens? They march and they sing and they pray and
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they go home. The vast majority of second amendment advocates are peaceful and therefore every pro-gun
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rally is peaceful. The vast majority of tea partiers were peaceful and therefore every single tea party
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rally was peaceful. You see how this works? Well, it doesn't work the way for these protesters,
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does it? What does that tell you about them? Second point here. I say I don't support the
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protests, but what about the truly peaceful ones? I mean, even if the protests themselves are
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fundamentally not peaceful, which I'm saying they are fundamentally not peaceful, it's true that some
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of the people there aren't burning stuff or stealing stuff, right? What about them? Do I support them?
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No, I don't. I don't support them either. My heart is not cheered and gladdened when I see the peaceful
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ones walking and marching. No, it's not. I don't support them. And this is where it troubles me when
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conservatives say that the peaceful protesters have an important message. Really? Do they? What is
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their message? If you think their message is just that cops shouldn't be brutal and shouldn't commit
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brutality, that's not their message. You might try actually listening to what they're saying.
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Read the damn signs. Okay? Listen to the arguments they're making for what they're worth.
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Let them speak for themselves. That is not their point. In fact, BLM is very open about what it
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believes. Go to their website. They have their own website. You can go and look. See their list
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of demands. I did just that. It's right there on the homepage. Let me read a little bit. This is
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Black Lives Matter. Okay? And here's what the Black Lives Matter website says. It says,
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George Floyd's violent death was a breaking point. An all too familiar reminder that for black people,
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law enforcement doesn't protect or serve our or save our lives. They often threaten and take them.
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Right now, Minneapolis and cities across the country are on fire and our people are hurting.
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The violence against black bodies felt in the ongoing mass disobedience,
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all while we grapple with a pandemic that is disproportionately affecting, infecting, and killing
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us. We call for an end to the systemic racism that allows this culture of corruption to go unchecked
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and our lives to be taken. We call for a national defunding of police. We demand investment in our
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communities and the resources to ensure black people not only survive, but thrive. If you're with us,
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add your name to the petition right now. Currently, we are fighting two deadly viruses. COVID-19 is
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threatening our health. White supremacy is threatening our existence and both are killing
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us every single day. Okay. So defund the police. America is systemically racist. Cops don't protect
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or save black people. White supremacy is a deadly virus. Black people are killed every day by white
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supremacists. These are the views of BLM. These are BLM protests. That America is a racist country.
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That racist cops are out hunting black people. That we are fundamentally white supremacists. That there are
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white supremacists killing black people in this country every single day. Which by the means,
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by the way, means we should have at least what? 365 black victims of, of, of white supremacist
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violence every year. That's what we should see. We don't see anything close to that, but, uh,
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uh, that's the claim anyway. And that's just the beginning. We haven't even gotten to their views on,
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on capitalism and everything else. And we've got conservatives saying, this is important.
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This is an important message. You support this message. Really? Don't, don't try to backtrack
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now and say, oh, I just support their right to, yes, we all support. Everybody supports the right
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for people to march and hold signs. Well, at least now everybody supports. I mean, for the last three
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months, a lot of people didn't support it, but, um, anyway, I support it. Okay. I've always supported
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it. That's not what we're talking about. When you, when you say I support the protest, you are not
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saying I support the right to protest. You are saying you support the message, which is why a
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pro-abortion person would never say I support the March for Life. Okay. And if there was a shout
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your abortion protest in Portland somewhere, I'm not going to say I support the shout your abortion
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protest in Portland. Everybody would know what I mean by that, right? When you say that, what
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you're saying is you support the message. And so all of these conservatives saying, I support the
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message. I support, or I support the protest. You're saying you support the message of Black Lives
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Matter. You support the message that America is fundamentally and systemically racist, that cops
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are white supremacists out hunting for black people. Good God. I mean, I thought we believe that
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America is not fundamentally racist and that though some cops are bad apples, the police are not by
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and large, a bunch of racist thugs out looking for black men to murder. We better think that because
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that's the reality. This stuff you're hearing from Black Lives Matter is delusional insanity. It is not
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even close to true. They have no evidence for it. These are bald assertions that are not supported by
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any of the facts. None of them. Don't just go along with it because they're upset and emotional.
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I've actually had people tell me that. They've told me, well, you know, this might not be true,
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but people's emotions are true and they feel this way. I don't care how you feel. The reality is the
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reality. If you feel like a certain thing is a reality and it's not the reality, then the best thing I can
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do for you is tell you that's not the reality. So if there's anyone out there that feels like
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cops are involved in a racist conspiracy to execute black people, if you feel that way,
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well, the best thing I can do is tell you the good news that that's not true at all and there is no
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evidence for it at all. Well, you just go along with it and say, well, they feel that way.
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And then what happens? You got police stations burned to the ground. Here's the thing. If it were
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true that essentially policing is a white supremacist conspiracy, which is what BLM believes,
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if that was true, then actually they'd be justified in burning down police. They should be burning down
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more police stations. I mean, burning down the police station in Minneapolis would be like the only
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justified thing they've done, but it's not true. That's why it's so damned important to say it's not
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true. If we are buying into these lines and these lies, we might as well grab a brick and start smashing
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windows too, because we are the left. We have joined them. We have given up on the truth.
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We have let them completely tell the story of our society, write the narrative. And we've done it
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for fear that otherwise they'll call us racist. I mean, we've given up on society because we're afraid
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of people calling us names. Absolutely pathetic. I'm disgusted by it. Now let's move on to headlines.
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Number one, it is interesting that a Black Lives Matter movement should be so deadly for black
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lives, but that's where we are now. David Dorn was a 77-year-old black man in St. Louis, retired police
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captain, good man by all accounts, good citizen. And we know that about him, by the way. This is not
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just like anytime someone dies, we always hear what a great person they were, whether they were or not.
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In this case, you know, we know that this was a good man because he, not only did he serve in a
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distinguished capacity for so many years as a police captain, he showed up in downtown in St. Louis over
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the weekend, despite being a 77-year-old man, you know, to try to stop looters from breaking into a
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shop. This was a man who put his life on the line, who sacrificed his life. Think about that. I'm not
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sure how long he served in the police force, presumably for decades. Gave so much of his life
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to that. Retires. And if I'm him, I'm thinking, I'm retired. I'm out of here. I'm not going anywhere
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near this crap. Okay. That's what I'm thinking as a selfish person. But him as a selfless person
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thinks I'm going to jump right back into this because I'm not going to let this happen to my
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city. He goes out and, um, and he's shot by one of the looters, apparently coming out with a TV,
00:25:13.240
shoot him in the gut. He bleeds to death on the sidewalk. There's video out there of it. It's,
00:25:19.300
and it's heart wrenching. It shows him lying there, bleeding, dying, someone else, not the shooter.
00:25:24.640
Uh, someone else is, is filming it, had, had already called the police. Apparently it was
00:25:28.720
waiting for the cops to show up. And you can hear this man shouting at the looters who murdered
00:25:34.760
Dorn saying, basically you did this all for a TV. You took a man's life for a TV. It's raw. You know,
00:25:41.860
it's very raw. It's very powerful. Uh, very hard to watch. I'm not going to play it because it's
00:25:46.800
graphic and bloody as well. But if you want to see the video, you can, you can find it. Dorn was not
00:25:51.320
the only, um, person, uh, or black person killed in the riots. David Underwood, security guard,
00:25:58.040
black man was murdered on Friday. Uh, another victim, 22 year old, Italia Marie Kelly, a biracial
00:26:04.260
woman shot by a protester. Here is Italia's sister on Facebook live shortly after her sister was
00:26:10.560
shot and killed. And here she is reacting as any sister would.
00:26:15.100
I'm waiting for everyone to get on. So I know, I hope y'all know what the f**k you did.
00:26:22.140
My sister is gone and it's not from a cop. It wasn't from no f**king cop. I don't get on live.
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I don't care about this Facebook s**t, but my sister is gone because one of you, a protester,
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shot my sister, a protester, not even the police, because you got it. I lost my sister.
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I lost my sister because you. So I ask again, when are we just going to speak plainly about
00:26:49.920
this evil? I don't want to hear about the peacefulness of it, the legitimacy of the
00:26:55.060
message, the pain of the rioters. So tired of hearing that. What about her pain? What about
00:27:01.200
that woman? What about the pain of David Dorn's wife, whose husband led a distinguished heroic
00:27:07.220
life, was a good man, and died lying on a sidewalk, streamed live on Facebook? Now, what about him?
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Did he deserve that kind of death? Does his life matter? All the Democrats,
00:27:26.660
Joe Biden apparently is going to go to George Floyd's funeral. You're going to go to David
00:27:32.820
Dorn's funeral? What about him? All these Democrats, you're going to show up to his funeral?
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You're going to say anything about him? You're going to apologize to his wife for fomenting the
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chaos that killed him? You're going to do that? No, you're not. Because you're a bunch of cowardly,
00:27:54.240
Number two, dozens of, speaking of garbage people, dozens of public health experts,
00:27:58.760
again, air quotes, public health experts have signed a letter supporting the protests.
00:28:04.720
They said, quote, white supremacy is a lethal public health issue that predates and contributes
00:28:09.580
to COVID-19. At a certain point, you got to laugh because, you know, I have done enough screaming
00:28:16.160
already today. I'm going to have an aneurysm. I mean, where to even begin? Now, the letter goes on
00:28:22.540
and there's there's more and it's all just totally absurd. Where to even begin? Let's start with
00:28:27.700
white supremacy contributes to COVID-19. These are public health experts, supposedly. What?
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We actually begin with white supremacy is a lethal public health issue. Is it? How so? I ask again,
00:28:44.320
how many people have actually been killed by white supremacists in like, I don't know, the last 30 years?
00:28:49.800
Tell me. Now, yes, if you're going to chalk every single police shooting up to white supremacy,
00:28:57.960
which is what BLM does, then sure, you've got, you could say that there have been, even then,
00:29:05.160
it wouldn't be nearly as many as they lead you to believe, but then you'd have hundreds of deaths.
00:29:10.560
But of course, that is delusional and insane. Once again,
00:29:13.280
contributes to COVID-19. How does that work? And aside from all of that, these are the same people
00:29:23.200
who told us that if you get together in large groups, many people will die because of it.
00:29:31.900
Grandma is going to die. People are going to be spreading the virus to people.
00:29:35.340
These are the same people who told us that. And now they've just discarded all of that. It never
00:29:42.900
happened. Meanwhile, if you believe black lives matter, and you also believe that large gatherings
00:29:53.380
are going to kill a lot of people, what are you doing encouraging large crowds, many of them black,
00:29:59.340
to come together? By your own thinking, aren't you encouraging them to infect themselves and die?
00:30:08.960
If you really believe what these public health experts have been saying for the last three months,
00:30:13.360
and you also believe that black lives matter, then what you would be saying is stay the hell home.
00:30:21.960
Number three, here's some news from the Daily Star. It says an asteroid about the size of the Empire
00:30:28.080
State Building is rocketing towards Earth at 11,000 miles an hour. I always wonder why these kinds
00:30:34.940
of stories are always reported by these publications like Daily Star or, you know, I mean, it just seems
00:30:39.980
like this should be bigger news. But really, this is terrible news when you think about it. Asteroid the
00:30:45.920
size of the Empire State Building rocketing towards Earth. Very tragic. It's the last thing we need right
00:30:50.440
now. An asteroid that size isn't nearly big enough to do the job. Awful. Just our luck. Right when you
00:31:01.280
think we're off the hook, finally, it's coming. No, that's not going to do it. Not good enough.
00:31:09.140
Number four, here's some real good news. Finally, Grindr, the gay dating app, has announced that in a show
00:31:14.780
of solidarity with the Black Lives Matter movement, it will remove the racial and ethnic filters from
00:31:20.280
their site. So that means that I guess you can't search for a particular race or ethnicity if you're
00:31:25.540
on Grindr, you know, looking for a date. And with this move, with this decision by Grindr, racial harmony
00:31:35.880
has fallen upon the land. And all is right in the world again. And there is peace. And there is
00:31:42.420
understanding. Grindr has saved us all. Inspiring stuff. Number five, here's something that's also
00:31:49.860
supposed to be inspiring, I guess. There was a clip like this that I played yesterday.
00:31:55.000
This one's even worse or even better, depending on if we're talking about from a comedic perspective,
00:31:59.400
then it's even better. But anyway, take a take a look at this. About racism, anti-Blackness,
00:32:06.100
or violence. About racism, anti-Blackness, or violence. I will use my voice in the most uplifting
00:32:13.540
way possible. I will use my voice in the most uplifting way possible. And do everything in my
00:32:19.920
power to educate my community. And do everything in my power to educate my community. I will love
00:32:26.500
my Black neighbors the same as my white ones. I will love my Black neighbors the same as my white ones.
00:32:32.120
I actually died of secondhand embarrassment watching that. I died right here. You didn't see it because
00:32:37.100
it was off air. And then God sent me back into this world as punishment for my sins. Because let's be
00:32:41.960
honest, right now this world is sort of indistinguishable from hell anyway. So here I am
00:32:47.020
again. And that video is just, I really think that we should replace the definition of cringe in the
00:32:55.620
dictionary with the URL of that video. This is literally the definition of cringe. It's also the
00:33:02.940
definition of creepy and cultish. What we're seeing here are people without religion, without purpose,
00:33:11.960
without direction, without an avenue or a channel for repentance, adopting the religion of left-wing
00:33:20.520
racialism and using white guilt as their outlet for repentance. That's what this is.
00:33:27.420
These are creepy cultish weirdos. So when you look at these protests, you know,
00:33:31.260
a lot of the peaceful ones are creepy cultish weirdos. And then you've got the other ones that
00:33:36.420
are burning down buildings. It's almost like the ones burning down buildings are more normal.
00:33:40.720
Somehow, somehow the ones burning buildings managed to be a little bit less creepy than what you just
00:33:47.520
saw there. This is, this is not it. This is just not it, folks. And it's, it's, it's not going to
00:33:56.900
solve anything. And I, I tell you also, um, if you're a white person literally on your knees with your
00:34:05.240
hands up repeating whatever the black lives matter, uh, you know, person is telling you it, if you
00:34:14.720
think that's going to save you from accusations of being part of the white supremacist conspiracy or
00:34:22.180
white privilege, it won't. If you think it's going to save you from charges of bigotry, it won't.
00:34:27.320
And if you think that when the rioting mob comes to your neighborhood, it's going to save your house
00:34:32.320
from getting burned down. It won't just so you know, you'll lose your house like anybody else would, but
00:34:40.440
you've also lost your dignity ahead of time. So you're, you're left without a house or dignity. That's,
00:34:46.940
that's, that's the situation you're going to be in. Finally, here's a bonus video. I wanted to play
00:34:52.100
very quickly. I just, I have to play it. Um, no setup is really needed. Here it is. I feel like
00:34:58.620
this needs to be said, and I really wish that more people would connect these two dots, but black lives
00:35:05.580
matter and animal lives matter. Literally all sentient beings on this planet deserve a life free from fear,
00:35:15.900
free from abuse, free from unjust prosecution. No one, whether it's a human being, especially
00:35:25.340
ones with differently colored skin than yours, and animals who are different creatures than you.
00:35:33.160
If it's not their time to die, they don't deserve to die. So stop killing black people and stop killing
00:35:40.100
animals. Veganism, black lives matter movement. It's all the same fight, all of it. And it's
00:35:48.040
important. Each one of them is so individually important. I really hope that people can start
00:35:52.740
to connect the two. You know, I could be wrong, could be wrong, but something tells me this comparison
00:35:58.520
between black lives matter and animals isn't going to necessarily resonate like that woman thinks it
00:36:05.660
will. We'll see though. I don't know that, that, I don't know who that is. It's some, some vegan
00:36:11.440
Instagram person. I don't know, but she had, she had to come up with this whole speech and say to
00:36:17.860
herself, this is going to do, yeah, this is the thing as a people are going to love this.
00:36:25.080
Um, yeah, I don't, I don't think that's going to work out for her. Finally, let's go to our daily
00:36:28.500
cancellation. And today we are specifically canceling, uh, this guy, Carl T. Bergstrom. He's a
00:36:34.900
professor at university of Washington, but we're also canceling him for an argument that, that,
00:36:39.860
that he may, that many people have made. So actually we're canceling everyone who's made
00:36:43.160
this argument. Carl T. Bergstrom is just our example that we're using. Here's what he said.
00:36:48.700
Um, as protesters are being beaten and gassed in the streets, just a reminder that a couple of
00:36:54.000
weeks ago, this was tolerated inside a state Capitol without a blast of pepper spray, a raised baton,
00:36:59.380
the use of tear gas or any damn thing. Oh, and these guys had semi-automatic weapons.
00:37:04.040
And it's a picture of a lockdown protester seeming to scream at police officers. Of course,
00:37:09.440
this picture is misleading. Uh, he was not screaming at police officers. He was actually
00:37:13.340
screaming at people behind the cops, but that part is cut out. And then, and then this,
00:37:18.460
that particular picture went viral, um, courtesy of the left lying about it and saying that he was
00:37:23.920
getting in the face of the officer screaming at them. He wasn't. In fact, if you look at the,
00:37:26.660
at the picture, you can see clearly he is not looking at that police officer. He's looking behind
00:37:31.060
the police officer. But in any case, this is the argument. The argument is that whites,
00:37:37.300
white conservatives were able to protest with guns and nobody was gassed or shot. Yet these
00:37:43.760
protesters are in the street right now and they're getting tear gassed and shot with rubber bullets
00:37:47.220
and everything else. Isn't that racism? Isn't that bias? Well, no, because let me remind professor
00:37:54.820
Bergstrom that those protesters, despite having weapons, didn't hurt anybody, didn't burn anything,
00:38:02.420
didn't steal anything, didn't kill anyone, didn't throw any bricks, didn't bash anyone over the head
00:38:10.820
with a two by four, didn't set any cars on fire. Whereas the BLM protesters have done all of those
00:38:18.800
things relentlessly across the country for an entire week and actually for years. So do you
00:38:26.740
understand the difference, professor? I mean, you're the professor here. Okay. I didn't even go to
00:38:30.620
college. So I'm the idiot. You're the genius. Even despite that, despite my lack of a college
00:38:37.080
education, I can see the difference. You've got one group burning stuff and stealing stuff and hurting
00:38:44.380
people and killing people. And you've got another group doing none of that. And so the former group
00:38:52.300
gets a harsher response. Does that make any sense to you, professor? Can you kind of understand why
00:39:00.280
there might be, I mean, when you've got people holding scary guns and yelling, but not actually
00:39:07.500
hurting a single fly. And then you got other people over here, some of them hurting, some of them
00:39:13.980
actually holding guns and shooting people with them. And then others holding bricks and using
00:39:17.660
them to throw at people and others, you know, holding torches and setting stuff up. Do you
00:39:21.460
understand why that other group over there with all the violence that you see is, I don't know how
00:39:26.220
else to explain it to you, professor. I mean, the whole idea anyway, that, that police are being too harsh
00:39:35.920
in their response. I keep using the word delusional. That's like my, that's the key word of today, but
00:39:43.200
that's, it's again, delusional. Police in many cities did absolutely nothing for a week.
00:39:52.360
And it's not their fault. I think they were, they were told to stand down. They were in many cities,
00:39:56.340
they were hands tied behind the back. But in many cities, these rioters were given a week
00:40:05.220
to essentially destroy and steal and assault at will with no repercussions.
00:40:14.820
And then seven, eight days later, the cops finally show up and start enforcing. And you're
00:40:19.160
complaining that it's too harsh. What do you want, professor Bergstrom? Do you think that they
00:40:25.660
should be allowed to just riot for the next year? How long? Let me just ask you, maybe just,
00:40:32.480
just let us know. How long do you think rioters should be allowed to destroy stuff before the
00:40:38.780
cops respond? Apparently a week isn't long enough. So would two weeks do it? Three weeks?
00:40:49.720
No, the problem of course, from the police response, isn't that it's too harsh. It's that it's not
00:40:54.340
nearly harsh enough. Not even close to harsh enough. The very first person who threw a brick
00:41:03.160
in the very first city in Minneapolis, the first person who threw one brick in Minneapolis should
00:41:10.300
have been immediately tackled by police and arrested and hauled away. Right away.
00:41:16.400
Minneapolis should have had buses out there handcuffing people, chaining them up and marching them into
00:41:25.680
the buses if they were being violent. There should be zero tolerance for violence of this kind or of
00:41:35.260
any kind. And you know, you know something? That's what would happen to me. So all this stuff about
00:41:42.680
white supremacy, I tell you right now, if I grab a brick and I go into town
00:41:48.660
and I throw it at a person, at a building, at a car, I'm going to be arrested. I guarantee it.
00:41:59.540
There is zero chance that I'm not arrested. And if there's a cop nearby watching me do it,
00:42:06.040
I'll probably be arrested in a pretty harsh, painful manner, like tackled to the street,
00:42:11.600
head bashes against the concrete. Like that's what's going to happen if I do it.
00:42:20.240
And yet we've got, I mean, hundreds of people across the country who've been able to do this
00:42:25.240
with no repercussions. And you're saying that there's bias against them.
00:42:31.180
Yeah, there is bias here, professor, but it's bias in their favor.
00:42:38.660
Because again, they are being allowed to do stuff that I could never do.
00:42:45.700
Despite being a white person, tell you right now, I set a building on fire, my ass is going to jail.
00:42:51.440
But if you're part of one of these protests, apparently, and you set something on fire,
00:42:57.960
there's a very good chance you'll get to walk away.
00:43:01.300
Not just walk away, but you can walk away with a handful of stolen merchandise.
00:43:07.920
You can have your face on camera and walk away with stolen merchandise and there will be no arrest.
00:43:12.600
Yeah. Oh yeah. But there's bias against them. Sure. Okay. Thanks, professor.
00:43:19.120
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