Kevin Williamson has been fired from The Atlantic, which is a leftist publication, for writing a column about abortion. I discuss why this happened and why pro-lifers should not be offended by it. Also, I talk about why I don't believe abortion should be executed.
00:00:00.000Hey everybody, welcome to the show. Hope you had a great weekend. As you can see, I am dressed in my all black outfit. Again, just in case, you know, I happen to run into a funeral today or a bank I want to rob or I want to enter the matrix or anything like that, then I've, you know, I'm ready to go. I've got the, I've got the costume on.
00:00:21.240Now, I want to talk about this Kevin Williamson situation. Maybe if you're not on Twitter, you maybe haven't even heard about it. Kevin Williamson was hired by, he's a conservative writer, right-wing writer at least, and he was hired by the Atlantic, which as you probably know is traditionally a leftist publication, hired by them a few weeks ago, has now been fired.
00:00:43.260Before, I believe, he even wrote anything for the Atlantic, he's already been fired because of a coordinated and relentless smear campaign against him by the left, and the Atlantic caved to that pressure after only a couple of weeks.
00:00:58.520This, in spite of the fact that Kevin Williamson is one of the most talented writers in America, and he really is one of the most talented. I'm not just saying that. He's one of the most talented writers in America and one of the most interesting writers because he doesn't, he doesn't pander.
00:01:15.340And that's a very rare quality among commentators and pundits and colonists and writers on both sides of the spectrum. Most of what you get on both sides of the spectrum with these paid opinion givers, most of them, all they do is just pander.
00:01:33.080They have their audience, and they've got their base of support, and they just tell those people, they just echo, they figure out whatever those people are already thinking, and they echo those thoughts back to them in even simpler and less nuanced terms than they're already thinking.
00:01:49.880So they're just kind of, they're just a wall to bounce your own opinions off of, and that makes them bland and boring and just painfully, painfully dull. Williamson doesn't do that. That's what makes them interesting.
00:02:03.080But he's been, he's been fired. The thing that got Williamson into trouble, well, really the thing that got him into trouble is just that he's not on the left, that he's considered part of the right wing, and so that's why they hate him.
00:02:18.540But, and they would have wanted to destroy him and get him kicked out of the mainstream anyway. He was a part of the national, he was writing for the National Review before then.
00:02:27.220If you're a conservative person, and you try to leave the conservative sphere and go to something considered more mainstream, then the left is going to react against that and try to get, they're going to find a reason to kick you back to the conservative camp.
00:02:43.960The reason that they found for Kevin Williamson is that he has stated on a few occasions that he believes that women who have had abortions should be hanged.
00:02:56.600Now, I don't think he meant this literally, okay? It's kind of clear to me that he's not actually stating his plan or something, and he's not saying that women right now, today, who have had abortions should be hanged.
00:03:12.980So, what he's talking about is, well, if abortion is illegal, and it's legally murder, well, that means what it means. That's what he actually said.
00:03:23.760Now, most pro-lifers, myself included, would oppose the idea of executing women who get abortions.
00:03:31.260However, it's not an irrational or delusional point of view, because in a world where abortion is illegal, it would and should be treated as murder, which is the point he's trying to make.
00:03:45.080So, if you are someone who supports capital punishment, and a lot of pro-lifers don't, which is the first reason why they wouldn't execute anybody involved with abortions, is because they don't believe in executing anyone at all.
00:03:57.980But if you believe in capital punishment, and you believe in capital punishment for people who commit murder, particularly murder of children, well, then there's kind of an obvious connection here.
00:04:05.740Personally, I wouldn't support that, because I believe capital murder charges should be reserved for the abortionists who not only carry out these killings, but also take advantage of and exploit women and young girls who are often ignorant, they're scared, and the abortion industry takes advantage of them.
00:04:32.820That doesn't alleviate their moral guilt entirely, and there's no doubt that many of them go into the procedure with very clear eyes, they know what they're doing, and calloused hearts, and there are women who get multiple abortions, and they just don't care at all about the lives of these children, and so there's just that callousness there.
00:04:53.560But I also think that a lot of people don't understand the level of exploitation that goes on.
00:05:01.620And this is a really important part of the pro-life message.
00:05:05.800This is something we need to communicate.
00:05:09.480People don't understand the level of exploitation and just the scare tactics that these abortion clinics use, and the ways in which they ensure that these women remain in the dark and remain ignorant.
00:05:24.520They don't want them to have any information, that's why they're always opposed to, oh no, we can't let them see a sonogram, we can't give them any information.
00:05:32.700If you try to pass any law at all, imposing any standards on these clinics, or saying, look, you need to equip these women with at least some information about what you're doing to them.
00:05:43.860Any amount of that whatsoever, the clinics react against, even though they consider themselves a medical, right?
00:05:53.500Well, any other medical clinic you go to, there are all kinds of laws and regulations, and if they're going to perform any procedure on you whatsoever,
00:06:01.120they have to give you, there are all kinds of laws requiring the clinic or the medical establishment to provide information.
00:06:09.160There are not nearly as many such laws for abortion clinics.
00:06:16.000Because the abortion clinics want these women to be ignorant, they want them in the dark.
00:06:21.500Because if you're in the dark, and you're ignorant, and you're already in the situation where you're pregnant, and you don't know what to do, then that's going to breed fear.
00:06:29.420And then the abortion clinic, they take that fear, and they use it, and they profit off of it, and they turn it into death.
00:06:35.180And that's how they convince these women, oftentimes, to kill their babies, and to give up this precious gift, this gift of motherhood.
00:06:47.620And to give it up without fully realizing what they're doing.
00:06:51.020And that's why, if we're going to give first-degree capital murder charges to anybody, it should be the abortionists and the officials in these abortion clinics.
00:07:01.120But however you feel on that subject, and whether you think that Williamson's position is correct, or horrifying, or somewhere in between.
00:07:13.280I think there are two things that are immediately clear here that I want to cover.
00:07:17.040First of all, it's very chilling, and this is the thing that most people are focusing on.
00:07:27.340It's very chilling that a writer can be fired for his political beliefs, especially when he was hired to communicate those beliefs, after a coordinated assault on his character.
00:07:42.740And especially when, by the way, it's not like he was hired for the Atlantic, and then the first thing he did was write an article about executing women.
00:07:53.460This is something that he mentioned in a tweet and in a podcast well before he was ever hired by the Atlantic.
00:07:59.980And as far as I know, he's never proposed it in any kind of writing that anyone has paid him to write.
00:08:05.780So really, he's getting fired for his opinions and his personal beliefs after this assault that was waged against him, which was completely politically motivated.
00:08:21.760Every pro-abortion columnist and pundit in the country harbors views that are infinitely more offensive and disgusting and outrageous and shocking than Williamson's.
00:08:43.880Now, he may hypothetically be suggesting capital punishment for people who kill their babies, but pro-abortion people, pro-abortion people, and there are obviously millions of them out there, and there are hundreds of them in the media, pro-abortion people support the actual real-life execution of human children.
00:09:10.240Let me ask you, which position is more shocking, supporting the hypothetical execution of people who kill their kids, or supporting the real-life, actually-happening-now mass execution of 60 million human babies?
00:09:30.520Because that's the position that every pro-abortion person in the country holds.
00:09:34.92060 million babies have been executed, and executed in ways that are far more gruesome than hanging, by the way.
00:09:42.980If you look into how these abortion procedures are carried out, it's not a—you know, when we say that these babies are slaughtered and butchered and ripped apart, that's actually what happens.
00:09:56.620That's how these procedures are carried out.
00:09:58.760But the pro-abortion crowd, they not only support this wholesale slaughter of babies, but they applaud it.
00:10:51.640If you support killing babies, you don't get to act shocked or outraged at anyone's opinion on any subject because you have the most disgusting, awful, indefensible position available in the world.
00:11:26.200But pro-lifers, while they will and many of them have criticized Kevin Williamson's position, argued against it, they would never call for his firing.
00:11:35.980It's only the pro-baby-killing hypocrites who would join that chorus.
00:11:42.140And that's why they should be completely ignored.
00:11:45.580But you see here, you see the strategy that the left employs.
00:11:51.680What the left does, especially when it comes to abortion, but really when it comes to any position at all that they don't like.
00:12:08.480You'll notice, when you articulate a point of view that they don't like, they're not just going to say, oh, I disagree with that.
00:12:19.080I understand where you're coming from, but I disagree with it.
00:12:57.360And they will generally give off the impression that the person who said whatever this thing is, is just completely delusional and horrific and evil.
00:17:14.900You should respect that if you're a decent and civilized human being.
00:17:20.360Your position in that case is murderous and wicked and ridiculous and anti-science and not grounded in any kind of reality or logic at all.
00:17:32.300Now, I know that obviously different occasions call for different approaches, and there are plenty of situations when you're a pro-lifer when you've got to be more gentle, and maybe you don't go throwing around words like slaughter and butcher and baby killing.
00:17:50.560For instance, sidewalk counselors who just have a wonderful and godly ministry where they're the ones who go to the clinics, and they're trying to approach these women as they're walking into the clinics and minister to them and provide them with information and show them love and show them support.
00:18:08.400So a sidewalk counselor is not going to run up, no matter how, no matter the caricature of pro-lifers that pro-abortion people use, the reality is that sidewalk counselors, they're not going to run up to a woman and say, oh, you're killing a baby and so forth.
00:18:20.320So they're going to go up and show support and show love, and that's very, very effective in that situation.
00:18:26.000Because again, these women walking into the clinic, they have been made to be afraid.
00:18:33.720While the message on the pro-life side is don't be afraid, you know, don't be afraid of motherhood.
00:18:38.740Don't be afraid of the situation that you're in.