The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 503 - The United States Of America No Longer Exists

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, years ago, I wrote that the United States of America no longer exists.

00:00:05.460 And sadly, I think recent events have only proven my point. We are not united in this country,

00:00:10.080 and that is not going to change anytime soon. So what does that mean, and where do we go from here?

00:00:15.380 What's just the reality of the situation? We're going to talk about all that today. Also,

00:00:19.380 five headlines, including, you may have heard of those insurrectionists who are taking over

00:00:23.420 parts of Seattle. Well, now they're trying their hand at building a self-sustaining

00:00:28.380 commune, but these are all a bunch of city dwellers who have no survival skills whatsoever.

00:00:34.100 So it's going about as well as you might imagine. And later, we're going to play a new game that I

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00:02:24.660 conversation, something I mentioned on the show at various points a few times in the recent weeks.

00:02:30.720 But now I want to dig into this and really talk about it in depth. But to do that, I have to go

00:02:34.840 back to something that one of the first articles I wrote, actually, for The Daily Wire was a typically

00:02:41.900 optimistic and cheerful piece titled The United States of America No Longer Exists. And at the

00:02:47.760 time, it was not met with a very warm reception from a lot of readers. And I kind of understand

00:02:56.160 that because, number one, I just started at the site. So I think a lot of people, they didn't know

00:03:00.580 who I was. And they thought, who is this guy? Who is this guy coming in here? One of the first things

00:03:04.120 he tells us the United States doesn't exist. It was a tad bleak, I admit. Three years later,

00:03:10.140 it brings me no pleasure to say, I told you so. Usually one of my favorite things to say,

00:03:16.780 my wife will tell you. But in this case, not so much. My basic thesis in that piece was that our

00:03:23.760 country, though existing still as a legal and geographic entity, cannot be meaningfully described

00:03:31.260 as united. So the United States of America no longer exists, except in name. We have nothing but

00:03:38.260 the law and the land holding us together. And that is not enough to make a nation, to make a people.

00:03:45.820 There needs to be something else, some uniting principle, some defining commonality that binds us.

00:03:51.520 If we are going to be united, we must be united around something and by something.

00:03:57.800 Today, three years later, all of that holds true, only more so. The key difference between now and

00:04:06.580 three years ago is that arguably we no longer even have the law holding us together. Between the

00:04:12.320 unconstitutional lockdowns and the sudden abandonment of those policies in order to allow

00:04:17.940 rampaging mobs to wreak havoc in the streets for weeks on end, the rule of law has broken down.

00:04:24.600 And with our borders still about as porous as they've ever been, you know, it's hard to say

00:04:29.700 that we are meaningfully united even on a geographic level. So with these two pillars crumbling,

00:04:36.240 pillars that were already insufficient in themselves to keep a country together, what's left is the

00:04:43.720 question. Many nations around the world and throughout history have been held together by the

00:04:51.280 bonds of their common heritage, ancestry, language, tradition. These are the kinds of things that for

00:05:00.060 many countries, that's what makes it a country. Now, the United States has always been different in

00:05:07.960 these respects, but we once did have a common language and at least a few cultural traditions

00:05:13.900 that we all had in common. Now, though, it's ethnocentric and xenophobic and racist to expect

00:05:21.040 immigrants who come to this country to learn the language of the country they're immigrating to. 0.95

00:05:26.120 As for traditions, our national holidays like Thanksgiving and Columbus Day have been abolished

00:05:30.720 in many quarters, and that trend is rapidly gaining speed. The trend is going in the direction of it

00:05:36.480 happening more, not less. No doubt Memorial Day and Independence Day will be on the chopping block

00:05:42.020 soon enough. These holidays are being torn down along with the statues of our historical icons

00:05:47.620 and politicized like the sporting events that once gave us respite from the political back and forth,

00:05:54.880 and now even those are platforms for the culture war, are political events almost.

00:06:00.620 These losses are not insignificant. To lose holidays, to lose the statues,

00:06:09.000 you know, that is not an insignificant thing. Healthy, vibrant countries have always had their

00:06:18.200 traditions, have always had their holidays, have always had their heroes. We're going to try to be

00:06:23.240 the first country in history without any of that. I don't think the experiment will prove successful.

00:06:28.620 But the thing that has always made America unique, of course, is that it's a nation founded on ideas,

00:06:37.380 on a creed. So you could say that, hey, we can survive, tear down the statues, get rid of the

00:06:45.560 holidays. That's not what makes America, America. And I agree, that's not what makes America, America.

00:06:52.380 If nothing else, we were once joined by our shared belief in the ideas and the creed that lays at the

00:07:01.500 foundation of our country. We have never succeeded in actually applying all of those lofty principles

00:07:07.860 to everybody equally, you know, that all men are created equal, endowed by the creator with inherent

00:07:13.280 dignity and value. We have never succeeded in actually applying that to everybody. Never. And we

00:07:18.980 don't now. Now we exclude the, you know, one million babies who are killed every year.

00:07:26.740 So these are, there have always been some really glaring and terrible exceptions that we have made to

00:07:36.980 that. But we shared these ideas on an aspirational level, at least. Now we no longer even aspire to be

00:07:45.900 that sort of country. Many Americans fundamentally reject the inherent dignity of human beings.

00:07:54.200 It's not just that they believe in the inherent dignity and they profess it, but they don't apply

00:08:00.100 that principle to babies. That would be bad enough. No, it's, it's that for a lot of people, they just

00:08:07.380 don't believe that that's the case. They don't think people have inherent dignity and worth.

00:08:13.580 So we, we are no longer at least aspiring to be the sort of country that, uh, protects and values all

00:08:21.080 people equally. And our ideas of what it means to be equal are, are, are so elementally opposed as to

00:08:28.120 render the term meaningless. Are we joined then by our shared desire to be free? Is that, is that

00:08:34.460 something that we can say at least, and maybe we don't have anything else, but we're America, we love

00:08:39.680 freedom. We've got that going at least for us. No, in the minds of many people, the ultimate vision of

00:08:46.960 freedom is a socialist utopia where the free market is abolished. The government provides all the basic

00:08:52.320 needs. Um, everything is basically controlled and planned by the government. Now to me and to many

00:08:59.720 others, this is a vision of slavery. This is not a vision of freedom. So it may be true that all

00:09:04.860 Americans talk about freedom, that we all say we want freedom, but the only commonality between the

00:09:10.200 competing views of freedom is the word itself, nothing else. Can we be bound by our passion for human

00:09:18.300 rights? Again, no, the situation with rights is, is much like that with freedom. Those on the left,

00:09:25.560 not just on the, on the leftist fringes, but in the mainstream would say that mothers have a right 0.99

00:09:30.720 to kill their offspring. Uh, some Americans have a right to the money and property of other Americans. 0.87

00:09:38.200 Biological males have a right to enter a woman's locker room or be on her sports team. Gay couples have 0.97

00:09:43.940 a right to the goods and services of Christian business owners and so on. They see a human right

00:09:50.500 as something always in competition with other rights claims. So for them, rights are a competition,

00:09:57.500 a struggle. Um, one right must always supersede another right. So we've got this concept of superseding

00:10:06.620 rights. The woman's right to autonomy trounces violently, a child's right to life, 1.00

00:10:13.320 a college student's right to be free of debt, overpowers a wealthy man's right to the fruit of

00:10:20.460 his own labor, and so on. Now, I would say that what they're really describing is one group's

00:10:28.400 struggle for power and dominance over another. You know, this has nothing to do with rights.

00:10:34.960 Rights are inherent to our human nature. By definition, human rights, real human rights,

00:10:39.660 cannot be in competition with one another. If you find yourself weighing these claims to

00:10:47.940 superseding rights and trying to figure out whose right comes before, you know, you know,

00:10:53.140 whose right comes before the other. If you find yourself doing that, it means that your whole

00:10:58.300 concept of rights, human rights, is flawed. That's the way that I would see it. And since we have

00:11:07.100 fundamentally opposing definitions of the term human rights, we cannot be united around it.

00:11:14.860 If we cannot be united around tradition, around language, around heritage, and we also cannot be

00:11:21.860 united around a shared belief in freedom and human rights, then what's left?

00:11:26.580 We would appear already to be two different countries, or perhaps several different countries.

00:11:36.640 And even that is generous, because really, when a man, when I talk to somebody, and he tells me that

00:11:42.640 he believes babies aren't people, that it's okay for a mother to kill her child, who we call it,

00:11:48.440 which he calls a fetus. Biological sex doesn't exist. Men can get pregnant. Police department should be

00:11:55.740 abolished. America is racist to its core. I'm a white supremacist if I disagree with any of these 0.99

00:12:01.900 points. When I'm told this, I find myself questioning whether we're even from the same planet, let alone

00:12:08.200 the same, from the same universe, let alone the same country. This is how absolutely opposed we are on

00:12:14.780 all levels, with almost no common ground, no shared frame of reference. And that's why, if you're

00:12:23.300 wondering why our arguments and debates are so unproductive, they never go anywhere, it's because

00:12:29.160 we have no way to argue these points. We have no way to communicate. In order to communicate and

00:12:34.280 debate someone, you have to have some frame of reference that you share between you two.

00:12:38.880 There has to be something there. I mean, there has to be some common value you both have,

00:12:43.840 and that's going to be your starting point. You're going to build from that when you're having your

00:12:48.060 debate. But if you don't even have that, there's just nothing that can happen here. It's not going

00:12:53.580 to go anywhere. And that's where we are in our country, where we've got people, there's just

00:12:58.740 nothing there at all that they share. And it is not an exaggeration to say that in this way,

00:13:06.680 we are far more divided now than we were during the Civil War. I mean, you read about the Civil War,

00:13:11.440 and obviously, we can't romanticize or idealize the Civil War. 600,000 people died. It was a brutal,

00:13:17.200 violent, horrible, horrific, nightmarish time. So there's no doubt about that. But even then,

00:13:25.680 fundamentally, the two sides were not nearly as opposed, sort of philosophically, as we are now.

00:13:35.920 Because they at least had some common ideas, like common ideas like dignity and manliness and honor.

00:13:46.380 You know, they had that between them, at least. I mean, they even both valued freedom. It's just

00:13:55.940 that they had very different ideas of what freedom meant. But they did, and you know, which is the case

00:14:02.100 now, you could say. But they did believe that, you know, you had human rights endowed by the

00:14:07.060 Creator. Inherent human dignity. They believed in that. They didn't apply it equally. They didn't apply

00:14:13.460 it all the way. There are obviously some huge blind spots there, just like we have now.

00:14:19.920 But on an aspirational level, they had that. There was something there. There was a morsel of

00:14:25.940 something, which is why, you know, the Civil War ended. Reconstruction was a terrible time as well,

00:14:31.900 in many ways. But the country did survive. Somehow. 600,000 people die. Brutal, violent. It was the worst

00:14:39.640 war we've ever seen, still, to this point, in America anyway. The deadliest war. It survived. 0.88

00:14:47.420 And America went on to become a powerhouse. How did that happen? I think one of the ways it happens

00:14:54.180 is that there was at least some commonality, some shared uniting principles that they had,

00:14:58.540 as opposed as they were on so many other things. We don't have that now.

00:15:07.200 What does that mean? Well, you know, I guess this is the part where I'm supposed to have a solution.

00:15:11.820 You know, I'm supposed to give you the one, two, three step plan of how we can solve all these

00:15:18.220 problems and come together. I don't have it. That's sort of my point. I just think that we need to begin

00:15:24.060 by confronting and acknowledging the situation we are actually in as a country. And we need to be

00:15:31.260 realistic. And so if you're sitting there calling for unity and saying, we need to put our differences

00:15:36.680 aside. It's not going to happen. It can't happen. In order for that to happen, millions of Americans

00:15:43.980 on one side or the other are going to have to radically change how they see reality.

00:15:49.860 And that's not going to happen overnight or at all, potentially.

00:15:58.580 So we just need to start thinking about what we can actually do in light of all of this.

00:16:06.060 You know, the only problem people talk about breaking apart as a country and, you know,

00:16:10.800 forming two different countries. I think there's a lot to be said for that, actually. Listen,

00:16:14.700 no country lasts forever. No country does. They all come to an end. We have to confront that

00:16:23.640 reality, too. The only problem is, though, that our division is not as geographically defined as it was

00:16:29.020 during, say, the Civil War. So I don't know how that would work. But I think we need to start

00:16:36.480 thinking along the lines of what can we do in light of the fact that there are these unbridgeable gaps

00:16:44.000 separating one group of Americans from others. All right. We're going to move on to 1.00

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00:18:20.400 Antifa people in the so-called autonomous zone are making a stab at self-reliance. They've started a

00:18:25.520 little farming project. Take a look at the picture here. Isn't that the saddest thing you've ever

00:18:30.200 seen? And look at the guy sitting there watching the plants, expecting like an entire large salad

00:18:37.920 to just sprout out of the ground all at once. But so they've got topsoil on top of cardboard,

00:18:44.720 and that's where they're starting it. But then it looks like they've got some of the plants

00:18:49.240 that aren't actually planted. They're just sitting on the top of the soil. Maybe that's what they

00:18:55.260 think topsoil means. It's topsoil, so you just put the stuff right on top. And then you see in the

00:19:02.420 back there, they've got that little watering can. They're going to try to keep this whole plot watered

00:19:07.060 with a little plastic watering can. Like the thing that my daughter uses to water the garden because 1.00

00:19:12.680 she wants to feel like she's helping. And the problem is, even if all those crops come up,

00:19:17.420 which they won't, you've got enough food there to maybe, maybe feed three people in a couple of

00:19:23.880 months. In late August, there'll be enough food for, for, you know, three adults to have a couple

00:19:28.980 slices of tomato, handful of lettuce, a cucumber. So this is pretty pathetic. You almost feel sorry 0.97

00:19:36.140 for these, uh, these city slickers playing, play acting as survivalists. And, and here's the thing,

00:19:42.020 you know, if, if, if you're really serious about this and you want to have your own commune and your

00:19:49.740 own little community, and you want to be relatively free of government interference, and you really just

00:19:55.340 want to be on your own, make your own rules. I respect that. Actually, I got nothing but respect

00:20:00.340 for that. You want to drop off the grid, do your own thing, say, screw you to modern society. I love it.

00:20:08.080 I think it's a great idea. You can't do it in the middle of Seattle. Okay. That, that's not what

00:20:14.900 you do. If you're serious about it, go off into the wilderness. There's a lot of wilderness still,

00:20:19.020 still left in America. And you could go off into the woods somewhere, into the mountains,

00:20:23.920 into the desert, wherever you want to go and take a stab at it. And if you do that, you know,

00:20:30.600 um, for the most part, the government will leave you alone with some rather notable and awful

00:20:38.320 exceptions. If you were serious about it, but they're not serious about it. This again is just

00:20:42.880 play acting. This is like a theater performance on their part. Um, they're not serious about actually

00:20:47.780 trying to create their own state or community. Uh, and, and of course, if they did try to go into

00:20:55.040 the woods and survive, they'd all be dead in three days. So, uh, maybe they shouldn't actually do

00:20:59.920 that, but you know, that's anyone, anyone can, you can go and go give it a shot. All right. Number

00:21:05.500 two, big news from NBC, Eric Wemple of the Washington post reports effective immediately. NBC news and MSNBC

00:21:11.840 will capitalize the B in black when referring to people or the community across all the networks

00:21:18.300 platforms. So black people capital B. Why? I have no idea. Um, well, we know why, because we've, we've learned 1.00

00:21:29.440 that proper grammar is violence. And so that's, that's, that's not, that's not proper grammar, but this is a

00:21:37.920 struggle against many things, including, um, grammar. Number three, crazy story out of Baltimore reported by

00:21:44.360 Fox 45, according to a woman named Courtney Lancaster in Baltimore County, her son was having

00:21:49.700 his virtual, uh, class recently. He's a, he attends public school, elementary school, and he was doing

00:21:55.780 his virtual class. Like so many kids are across the country during the, uh, during COVID. And someone

00:22:00.860 notices on the wall behind him in his home, a BB gun, which is, which is, uh, hanging there on the wall.

00:22:07.240 The principal notifies the school resource officer. He calls the cops and then the cops show up at the

00:22:13.140 woman's house and, and, and search her house because of a BB gun. And the principal, apparently, 1.00

00:22:19.380 according to the mother said that having a BB gun in your own home during a virtual class is tantamount

00:22:25.260 to bringing it to school because, because now they own your house, right? You send your kid to public

00:22:32.760 school. They own your kid in their minds. If you do virtual school, they still own your kid. And now they

00:22:38.180 own your house too, because they can see it. Get your kids out of the public school system. People

00:22:44.100 get them out. Number four, the Dallas police department put out a video yesterday, um, kneeling

00:22:49.140 in submission to, uh, the black lives matter organization. Here's a little bit of, of that

00:22:54.420 video.

00:23:24.420 Pretty bold stuff there from, uh, from that officer, right? Hey, if you're raped, you're not

00:23:30.340 hating your heart for people of color, get over it. Okay. Because this city is a minority majority 1.00

00:23:36.020 city. And this city is a city where blacks and whites and browns and legal and illegal all get 1.00

00:23:42.380 together because we judge each other by the content of our hearts.

00:23:49.580 Pretty bold stuff there from, uh, from that officer, right? Hey, if you're racist, get over it. I disagree.

00:23:57.900 I disagree with racism. You hear me? I'm not afraid to say it. Racism is bad. Yay. And then the crowd cheers.

00:24:05.580 Uh, no. How about this? Don't kneel. Don't kneel. Get it, get up, get off of your knees and do your

00:24:12.700 damn jobs. How's that for an idea? Enforce the law. You can't do it from your knees. Get off your knees. 1.00

00:24:21.100 Stop embarrassing yourself and do your job. Protect the community. That's what people want.

00:24:28.380 That's what communities want. At least the people in the community who you should be listening to

00:24:33.740 want the law to be enforced. Number five, finally, here's Donald Trump, um, talking about the takeover

00:24:39.820 in Seattle by the anarchists. If there were more toughness, you wouldn't have

00:24:45.660 the kind of devastation that you had in Minneapolis and in Seattle. I mean, let's see what's going on

00:24:52.060 in Seattle. But I will tell you, if they don't straighten that situation out, we're going to

00:24:55.500 straighten it out. And what do you mean by that? Like what, I don't know if you caught up, but Governor

00:24:59.500 Cuomo was so upset with Mayor de Blasio of New York. He said, I'm going to displace him.

00:25:03.260 I don't really know how that would work. But I mean, is that what you mean in Seattle?

00:25:07.420 What I mean is very simple. We're not going to let Seattle be occupied by anarchists.

00:25:13.900 And I'm not calling them protesters. Have you talked to the mayor?

00:25:16.220 I'm not costing. No, but I got to see a performance that I've never seen. I mean,

00:25:20.700 you think he was a weak person in Minneapolis. The woman, I don't know. Has she ever done this before?

00:25:28.140 How can you? In Seattle? Oh, it's pathetic.

00:25:30.860 I like what he says there. Of course, a lot of people on the left are upset, 0.98

00:25:33.980 as always. Every time he opens his mouth, they're upset. But I like what he says there. Sounds

00:25:37.580 good to me. The only problem is with Trump, oftentimes, the problem is when it comes to

00:25:45.900 actually doing it. So I like what you're saying. Great stuff. Tweeting it. That's good stuff, too.

00:25:53.260 Trump's been tweeting a lot. He's doing a lot of tweeting during all this. He keeps tweeting law

00:25:58.700 and order in all caps. He's tweeted that, you know, like 10 times. I agree. Law and order is good.

00:26:07.740 At a certain point, though, you have to go beyond tweeting and just saying it and actually do

00:26:13.420 something. That's part of governing. So he's got the tweet down. He's got all that down.

00:26:21.740 But it makes it so much worse. And I know there's no point in complaining about it now. I mean,

00:26:26.300 Trump is Trump. It's not ever going to change. He's 74 years old. He's not going to change.

00:26:29.900 And the Twitter thing, it's not ever going to change. Never will.

00:26:35.180 You know, he'll go down. I mean, if he's going down, he's going to go down tweeting. Even if

00:26:39.420 tweeting takes him down, he doesn't care. He's going to cling to that. All right. I get that.

00:26:43.820 All right. But even so, the reality is that when you've got riots and the breakdown of law and order,

00:26:53.660 and the president isn't really doing anything except just tweeting the phrase law and order,

00:27:00.940 it looks impotent and pitiful and weak. And that is not the image that Trump should be projecting.

00:27:10.540 So what I would like is for him to actually do something about it, actually follow through on

00:27:13.820 some of these threats for a change. If you're not, though, then probably stop tweeting law and order,

00:27:20.120 because it only highlights the fact that there isn't law and order right now and you're not doing

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00:28:37.880 box, so that they know that we sent you. Okay, for our daily cancellation, it's a little bit

00:28:42.600 different. I'm going to be canceling all of the celebrities in the white guilt celeb PSA that I'm

00:28:49.240 going to play for you in just a second, but I'm not going to spend time explaining why they're 0.87

00:28:54.280 canceled and why it's dumb and all of that. That should be pretty obvious, and the incredible thing

00:28:58.440 is that with these celebrity videos, these celebrity videos are roundly mocked by almost everyone on

00:29:07.720 all sides every time. They are always a huge fail, and yet the celebs keep doing it. They keep doing

00:29:15.400 it. They must know at this point that it's just going to be made fun of by everybody, not just

00:29:23.160 conservatives, everyone. In fact, I started the show talking about there's nothing that binds us

00:29:28.040 together and unites us. This might be the one thing left is that we all hate celebrity PSAs. This is the

00:29:33.680 one thing holding us together, which means probably they should keep doing it. This is the only

00:29:37.620 thing stopping us from a full-on civil war, is that at least we have this in common.

00:29:44.340 Now, what I'd really like to do then is a little game, a little challenge I came up with called the

00:29:52.660 Cringe Challenge. The game is to watch this video for as long as you can until the cringe factor is

00:30:00.880 overwhelming, and you have to stop it for fear that you might die of second-hand embarrassment.

00:30:05.400 Now, I warn you, this is not for the faint of heart. If you've seen any of these celeb PSAs in

00:30:11.560 the past, you know how cringey they get. This one is way worse. Okay, this is the ultimate right

00:30:20.680 here. This is expert-level Cringe Challenge. So if you've never played the Cringe Challenge,

00:30:26.460 we're going to be jumping into the deep end with this. It's a dangerous maneuver, but I think now's

00:30:31.460 the time to do it. So we're going to watch it together. I'll see how far I can go. And one

00:30:37.300 note about the rules, okay? You can try multiple times to see how far you can make it, but if you

00:30:44.860 have to stop, then you have to go back to the beginning and do it all from the beginning again.

00:30:48.880 Those are the rules. Sorry, I don't make them up. Actually, I do make them up, but still,

00:30:54.220 those are the rules. All right, so let's, let me pull the video up.

00:31:00.540 Okay, we're going to watch this together. It's 2.06. The video is a little bit over two minutes.

00:31:06.900 Can we get through the entire video? Let's see. All right.

00:31:11.680 Okay, I got to, I got to stop. All right. I got to stop already.

00:31:24.840 That Aaron Paul, the pause there, the pause with the, with the hands like this. Oh man.

00:31:32.900 The pause did me in. I couldn't even, what was that? Four seconds, five seconds. And that's Aaron,

00:31:38.600 that's Jesse Pinkman. It kills me. It kills me that Jesse Pinkman is being corny right now.

00:31:43.740 Why did Jesse Pinkman, E2 Jesse Pinkman? Okay, we're going to try again. Let's give this another shot.

00:31:54.520 All right. Let's go. I take responsibility.

00:32:00.500 I take responsibility. I take responsibility. I take responsibility for every unchecked moment,

00:32:12.520 for every time it was easier to ignore than to call it out for what it was.

00:32:16.420 Every not so funny joke. No, stop, stop, stop.

00:32:22.720 I can't do it. Every not so funny joke.

00:32:27.120 Oh man. That guy. Who is that guy? Is that, who is that? I don't even know who these people are.

00:32:35.000 I can't even, I don't know who these, Jesse Pinkman I recognized. Is that, is that, uh,

00:32:41.460 is that Justin Theroux? Is that who that is? I don't know. Anyway, he,

00:32:46.260 whew, that's a tough one. That's a tough, he, he, he's really, he's got the finishing move,

00:32:51.560 doesn't he? What is that? 20 seconds. He's coming in. I mean, that's, that's,

00:32:56.360 that's a hard one to get past. Okay. Let's try again. We'll try one more time. I know I can do

00:33:02.560 better than this. I, you know, I've, I've been watching cringe comedy, like The Office,

00:33:08.940 a lot of British comedy, Ricky Gervais. Now I've been watching cringe comedy my whole life. I,

00:33:13.820 I thought that this would prepare me for this moment, but it turns out that it's, it's,

00:33:17.520 it's different at game speed when you're actually doing it in real life. It's a lot harder. So,

00:33:21.300 all right, let's try again. I take responsibility.

00:33:26.780 I take responsibility. I take responsibility. I take responsibility. I take responsibility

00:33:33.880 for every unchecked moment, for every time it was easier to ignore than to call it out for what it

00:33:40.000 was. Every not so funny joke. Every unfair stereotype. Every blatant injustice, no matter

00:33:48.340 how big or small. Every time I remained silent. Every time I explained away police brutality

00:33:54.880 or turned a blind eye. No, no, no. I'm done. I can't do it. The pauses, it's, it's the dramatic

00:34:05.020 pauses that are, that's, that's the cringiest thing somehow. It's not even, it's not what they're,

00:34:09.760 it is what they're saying. I mean, it's everything, everything about this, the music, the black and

00:34:13.300 white, the everything, those dramatic theatrical pauses they keep taking.

00:34:23.040 Oh, yeah, that's it. 36 seconds. I'm a failure. I can't do it.

00:34:30.200 Um, all right. That's, that's, that's, that's the best I could do. I kind of want to, let me

00:34:36.600 just keep playing a little bit. I'm not going to go, I'm going to break my own rules because I can

00:34:39.580 break my own rules. I'm going to play a little bit more of this just to, uh, the game's over.

00:34:43.640 I already lost, but I want to see what else I do want to see. Who is this right here that we're

00:34:49.580 looking at? Um, I don't know, but I want to see what she has to say. We'll just go a little bit

00:34:54.720 further into this. I take responsibility. Black people are being slaughtered in the streets, 1.00

00:35:01.000 killed in their own homes. These are our brothers and sisters, our friends, our family. 1.00

00:35:07.520 We are done watching them die. We are no longer bystanders. We will not be idle. Enough is enough.

00:35:15.180 I will no longer allow an unchecked moment. I will no longer allow racist, hurtful words, jokes,

00:35:21.780 stereotypes, no matter how big or small to be uttered in my presence. Okay. All right. That's

00:35:29.360 it. We're good. We're fine. I've done enough to be uttered. We're no longer allowed to be uttered

00:35:35.820 in my presence. Why do you say it like that? And the thing is they're reading. You can tell

00:35:40.880 they're reading a script. They could even memorize their lines. I will no longer allow racism to be

00:35:50.080 uttered. It won't be uttered. No. All right. Um, that's it. That's, that's the most I could do.

00:35:58.160 I told you that's a tough one, but that's too, if you want to go on your own and try it, it's, it's,

00:36:02.580 if you want to play this game at home on your own, uh, and see if you can get all through all two minutes,

00:36:07.160 let me know if you can do it. I want to move on to emails. Um, haven't read emails in a while. Uh,

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00:37:02.200 spin. So go to dailywire.com slash subscribe right now and begin. Okay. Uh, we haven't done a lot of

00:37:09.700 emails in a while. So I want to, I want to read a couple of them. You can email the show by becoming

00:37:14.280 a daily wire member as well. Uh, that will give you access to the mailbag. And this is from Ron

00:37:21.080 says, Matt, first, I would like to let you know how much I enjoy your show. Your common sense approach

00:37:26.340 is refreshing on today's show. You mentioned the Gulag archipelago was Solzhenistin's magnum opus

00:37:31.380 and then said, he had many great opuses. Opai maybe is the plural of that. I just about fell

00:37:37.500 out laughing. I live in Japan and opai is the Japanese word for breast, specifically female

00:37:43.280 breast. So what went through, what went through my mind was he had many great opai. I just thought

00:37:49.700 it was funny and that you may appreciate the humor. Um, well, Ron, no, I don't appreciate the humor at

00:37:56.440 all. I knew that opai was the word for female breasts in Japanese. I am fluent in Japanese. 0.93

00:38:05.180 Okay. But this was a test. I was testing you to see how enlightened and tolerant you are.

00:38:12.120 And sir, you failed miserably. There should be nothing funny to you about a man like Solzhenistin

00:38:18.320 having many great female breasts. Why is that funny? 0.99

00:38:21.980 Let's say Solzhenistin had two female breasts. Maybe he had three, maybe he had one, maybe he had 0.99

00:38:29.880 seven and a half. It's up to him. Okay. This is his life. It's his choice, his truth. If he wants to

00:38:37.500 have seven and a half female breasts on his body, who are you to say he can't? The fact that you would 1.00

00:38:44.960 laugh at something like that is shocking, outrageous. Uh, and I find your cruelty to be

00:38:56.960 traumatizing for me. I can only imagine how Solzhenistin must feel even though he's dead.

00:39:05.520 Just makes it even worse. Insult to injury. So, um, we still have far to come as a society is my point.

00:39:11.660 So, uh, we'll move on to the next email. It says from Amanda says, hi, Matt, I enjoy your show.

00:39:17.900 That said, I think you're off on your take on the statue issue. You glossed over it during your

00:39:23.120 segment, but the fact remains that Columbus enslaved women and children. He was a murderer 0.85

00:39:26.740 and a slave owner and traitor. I don't see why traitor as in T-R-A-D-E-R. I don't see why a man 0.99

00:39:32.920 like that needs to have a statue and the Confederates. Do you really think it makes sense to have

00:39:36.940 statues of traitors on American soil? Traitor as in T-R-A-I-T-O-R. Okay. This is going to look

00:39:42.360 confusing. Do you think it makes sense to have statues of traitors on American soil?

00:39:46.920 Traitors and traitors is what we got, I guess. Uh, Amanda, you know, I, I think I already addressed

00:39:51.660 many of your points in, in, you know, over the last few days, I've addressed a lot of this in the

00:39:57.320 case of Columbus. Yes. I think he deserves the statue being one of the most significant men in

00:40:02.440 history. One of the greatest men in the history of the world. Uh, you know, a little detail like

00:40:06.480 that, like being one of the great men in history, I think that is deserving of a statue or two.

00:40:12.120 Um, did he engage in slavery and other atrocities? Yes, he did. Was that bad? Yes, it was.

00:40:17.180 Can we assess his moral culpability for those actions through our 21st century lens and hold

00:40:21.800 him to a modern standard on those issues? No, we certainly cannot. We cannot do that.

00:40:26.580 You know, you have to understand, Amanda, 500 years ago is a long time. It's a very, very long time.

00:40:35.060 I know that might seem obvious, but apparently for a lot of people like you, it's, you know,

00:40:40.620 it's not so obvious. Very, it's half a millennium ago. The world back then was nothing like what it is

00:40:49.360 now. It may as well have been an alien planet in outer space somewhere in terms of how different it

00:40:55.360 was from our experience in modern times. It was a brutal, violent age across the world.

00:41:03.000 Concepts like the absolute equality of the races didn't exist. Nobody believed in that. I mean,

00:41:08.540 not a single person who existed in 1492 would pass as racially enlightened and woke by our standards

00:41:15.400 today. Not a single person. Um, and you know, all of the great men everywhere in all parts of the world

00:41:22.820 were by necessity, hard bitten, violent, tough, cruel, you know, we could shake our heads about

00:41:30.720 that now, but we do it from the comfort of our modern life, enjoying the fruits of the labor

00:41:36.460 done by those men. We have the benefit, the luxury, the privilege to be scandalized by the brutality of

00:41:42.520 older times. They didn't have that privilege. You know, for them, it was reality. That doesn't excuse

00:41:48.500 anything. We're talking, we're not talking about moral truth. We're talking about moral culpability.

00:41:52.100 I'm not saying that, uh, slavery was morally okay back then, uh, just because most people thought

00:41:58.680 it was. I'm saying the moral culpability, when we assess the moral culpability of someone, you know,

00:42:03.900 someone who owns slaves, if, if, if your neighbor, Jim was found to have been owning slaves that he had

00:42:11.040 tied up in his basement or something, uh, he would be much more morally culpable for his slave

00:42:16.980 ownership than a person 500 years ago would be. And I think that's just undeniable. It's, I mean,

00:42:22.840 any thinking person must realize this. Um, and so I, you know, we have to judge everyone through that

00:42:29.880 lens, Columbus included. Now, one other point though, a different point, you're arguing that

00:42:37.100 these statues shouldn't exist. That's what you're arguing. You're saying that they shouldn't have the

00:42:40.880 statues. That is, that's different. There's a distinction here. That's different from arguing that

00:42:45.700 they should be torn down. So maybe you see the difference. Um, I would say statues are all about

00:42:54.320 symbolism. Tearing a statue down is, is symbolism. There's, there's, there's symbolism in that,

00:43:02.360 especially when an angry mob tears it down illegally. It's a lot of symbolism in that.

00:43:07.460 What I would say is that the symbolism of tearing down a historical statue, particularly when it's a

00:43:15.340 mob doing it is terrible, awful. Um, and so for that reason, I think, you know, a reasonable person

00:43:27.960 could be of the opinion that a particular statue isn't great and they don't love it and they wish

00:43:33.420 it was never put up, but they are not in favor of it being torn down. I think that's a position

00:43:40.500 a person could take. That's not my position when it comes to Columbus. I like the statues and think

00:43:44.120 they should be up. If it were up to me, I'd put them up, but there's, there's just a, like, it's,

00:43:48.700 it's one thing if, you know, you're, you're part of a community and they're talking about putting a

00:43:52.680 statue up that isn't up yet and you don't like the statue. And so you're saying, no, don't put that

00:43:57.100 statue up. That's a very different argument from saying this statue has been up for a hundred

00:44:01.680 years. Let's tear it down. Especially when it's part of a, of a, of a hysterical rush, a panic to

00:44:09.640 tear down statues all across the country. These are not isolated incidents. This is happening all

00:44:13.040 across the country. And what is the symbolism in tearing all these statues down all at once

00:44:17.660 across the country at the behest of the mob? The symbolism is, is one of affirming mob rule.

00:44:23.920 It's one of, of, you know, condemning completely our, our historical, what, what, who were once our

00:44:31.340 historical heroes. You know, when you tear down Columbus statues all over the place,

00:44:36.100 the message you're sending is not that, okay, we need to have a more nuanced view of Columbus.

00:44:44.200 I mean, there, you know, there were, there were a lot of bad things that he did. We need to,

00:44:47.120 we need to also be talking about that. That's not the message. The message is this was a scum.

00:44:52.140 He was dirt. He's nothing. We shouldn't even remember him. That's the message you send when you 1.00

00:44:57.240 tear him down all across the country. That's a terrible message to send. If, if, if, if we want

00:45:04.480 to have a more nuanced perspective on the, the people who pioneered and founded and shaped Western

00:45:12.780 civilization and later on the United States of America, I'm all about that. Thomas Jefferson,

00:45:18.640 George Washington, you want to talk about the slavery issue in relation to them? They were slave

00:45:23.240 owners. Um, yeah, I'm fine with that. These were not perfect men. They weren't saints. I don't think

00:45:33.600 any church anywhere is canonizing these people. Uh, so I'm fine with that, but tearing down the

00:45:39.680 statues is not what you do in order to begin a nuanced conversation. That's what you do when you

00:45:45.940 are condemning totally these people and throwing them on the ash heap. And that I oppose. Absolutely

00:45:54.340 oppose. We, we can't do that. All right. Um, we will, I had a couple other here, others here,

00:46:04.620 but I'm long winded as usual. So we'll have to save those for later and hope you guys have a great

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The Matt Walsh Show - June 12, 2020

Ep. 503 - The United States Of America No Longer Exists

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