Ep. 504 - Atlanta Riots Over Justified Police Shooting Of An Armed, Violent Man
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Atlanta police shot and killed a man who was passed out in a drive-thru lane at a Wendy's drive-through, and the police officer involved in the shooting has been charged with murder. What was the point of this protest, and why was it necessary?
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, another police shooting has sparked protests.
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This happened over the weekend, but while the left, Democrats, and protesters put all the blame
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on the police officer, as per usual, I think we need to start asking some questions about the
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personal responsibility of the suspect in these cases. That's an especially pertinent question
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in the latest shooting that has caused all these protests. We'll talk about that. Also, five
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headlines, including a Black Trans Lives Matter protest over the weekend. What was the point of
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this protest? Is it actually necessary? We'll discuss all of that, and our daily cancellation
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and much more, all coming up on the show today. We begin with this, though. Another round of riots
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broke out in Atlanta, this time over the police shooting of a man named Rayshard Brooks. The media
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is quick to tell us, of course, that Rayshard Brooks is a Black man, and the officer who shot him is a
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white man. But Brooks' race appears to be far less relevant in this situation than his behavior.
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Police were called to a local Wendy's on Friday night after Brooks fell asleep behind the wheel
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in a drive-thru line, in the drive-thru line at Wendy's. Officers arrived. They detected a strong
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scent of alcohol. Also, he wasn't really making sense. He didn't seem to know where he was,
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not to mention just the fact that he passed out in a drive-thru lane. All of that, pretty good
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indication that he's, you know, drunk. So they do a blood alcohol test, and he was over the legal
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limit. Not a big surprise. So they attempted to make an arrest. Brooks resisted, assaulted the
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officers, stole one of the cop's tasers, fired it at them, ran away, then turned and pointed the taser
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at the police officers. And it was at that point when Brooks had done literally everything in his
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power to escalate a non-violent situation into a violent situation. It was at that point that one
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of the officers shot and killed him. There's a plethora of video footage of this incident.
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And I'll play for you. Here's the, there are, you know, civilians that are in the drive-thru
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lane. Some of them are taking video of it, but here's the combined footage from the officer's
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body cam and the Wendy security camera. I think it gives us the best view of everything that happened
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in context. So here it is. Take a look. Hold on, Mr. Brooks. Will you take a preliminary
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arrest test for me? Is it yes or no? I don't want to refuse anything. It's yes or no. It's
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completely up to you. Yes, I will. Okay. Just wait here while I grab it. What kind of drinks did you
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have? Uh, I'm not sure. It's something she ordered. She said top shelf or whatever. Top
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shelf what? I'm not sure. It was, like I said, it was her birthday and you had about one and
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a half drinks, but you don't remember what kind of drinks they were? No, sir. All right. I
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really don't, Mr. R. All right. I think you've had too much to drink to be dry. Put your hands
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on your back for me. Put your hands on your back. Hey, hey, stop. Stop fighting. Stop fighting.
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You're gonna get tased. You're gonna get tased. You're gonna get tased. You're gonna get tased.
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Stop. Come on, man. Stop. You're gonna get tased. It's a rock. Hey, hands on the f***ing table.
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Hands off the razor. Stop fighting. Hands off the razor.
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Hands on the f***ing table. Use whom you heard. Get going. Get back. I think you Ermọi,
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Okay, now the media has, as I said, of course, made this into a racial incident,
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continually highlighting the fact that Brooks was black, the officer was white.
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Protesters have taken to the streets. The Wendy's where this occurred was burned to the ground,
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apparently for the crime of calling the police on a man passed out in the drive-thru lane.
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It would seem that the protesters would prefer if a business, I don't know,
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just wakes the drunk man out of his stupor and sends him driving along on his way.
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What else are they supposed to do? Because it would seem that calling the police is what you
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would do if you're concerned about his safety and also the safety of the public. The officer who
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shot Brooks was fired. He may be charged with murder. The police chief has resigned.
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And all the familiar wheels are turning once again. BLM activists and leftists have denounced
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the shooting, mainly by pretending that Brooks went from sleeping in his car to dead on the pavement
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with nothing in between. They, as always, omit the most crucial elements of the story.
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So there's been a lot of this kind of thing. Just as an example, here's a guy,
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apparently, according to his Twitter, an award-winning journalist. And here's how this
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award-winning journalist described the incident when arguing with me over Twitter. This is what
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he said. He said he wasn't driving, talking about Brooks. He wasn't driving. He was asleep in a
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parking lot. And a few minutes later, he's dead. No rational, sane person would ever argue that death
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should happen when you've been asleep in a parking lot. Only a cold, non-empathetic,
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I think he meant to say empathy, he said empathic, a non-empathic white nationalist would ever make
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that insane argument. Yeah, he was just asleep in his car and then he was shot dead. And that's true,
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of course. He was sleeping. And then, a little bit later on, he was shot dead. That is, in fact,
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the correct order of events. I will give you that. But it's kind of like saying, you know,
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of a convicted bank robber that he was walking into a bank one afternoon, and then next thing you know,
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he's arrested and sent to prison. That's the correct order of events, but you left out some
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very important events in between that would connect these two events on the end and make it,
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and clarify it quite a bit. So if you've ever seen, you know, the famous, the Seinfeld episode,
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the yada yada, they are yada yadaing past the most important part. In this case,
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the award-winning journalist, he has just yada yada'd the part where Brooks assaulted and stole
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the taser of a police officer. So with protesters, rioters, the media, Democrat politicians like the
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mayor of Atlanta, who has already come out against these police officers, all trying to turn this into
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a cold-blooded murder by two racist assassins out killing black men for no reason, I think it's
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important for us to talk about the actual reality of the situation. Let's bring this back to reality
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this Rayshard Brooks situation. And let's go through the timeline of events.
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Brooks is very drunk and driving. He's a danger to the public. He falls asleep in the drive-through
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lane. Why are the cops called? Is it because he's a black man in his car? No. Were the Wendy's
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employees being racist? Did they call the cops because they saw a black man in the drive-through?
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I think we can assume that many black men and many other races have gone through the drive-through
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at Wendy's and never had the cops called on them. Why was this particular individual, why did he end
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up with the cops called on? Because he was sleeping in the drive-through lane. They've got a guy passed
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out blocking the drive-through. To do anything but call the cops would be extremely irresponsible
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and reckless. The cops come. Do they come because it's a black man? Do they say to the dispatcher,
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okay, well, we'll respond to this call, but only if it's a black guy. If it's not, then we're not
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interested. No. Now, admittedly, I don't have that interaction. I don't know what they said to the
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dispatcher, but I think we can assume that that conversation did not take place. So, they show up.
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They talk to the guy. They're very polite. You saw that in the video. They're very reasonable.
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He's obviously drunk. They have him take the breathalyzer. It looks like it's at a 0.108.
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The legal limit is 0.08. So, he is well over the limit. What do they do now? Well, he was behind
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the wheel of a vehicle, key in the ignition, passed out drunk. That's a crime. He has committed a crime.
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Can they be merciful and let him off the hook and not enforce the law? First of all, why should they?
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Second, in any case, no. They can't do that. They can't just leave and leave the drunk man in the
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parking lot to drive home. He goes and he hits someone else, kills them. We're going to partially
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blame the cops for that, as well we should. So, they have no choice but to make an arrest. It is
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the most responsible thing to do. It's the safest thing for the sake of the public and for his sake.
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He's a danger to himself, that drunk and driving a vehicle.
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Are they arresting him because he's black? No. They're arresting him because he's committing
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a crime that endangers the public and himself. They're arresting him for the same reason they
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arrest anybody else in the exact same situation. They have to bring him in, keep him locked up,
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let him sleep it off. Yeah, they'll probably charge him with something. Pretty standard procedure.
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Cops do this thousands of times across America every single night. But now, Brooks, rather than
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accepting the consequences, begins resisting and then assaulting the officers. And then he
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steals the weapon out of their hands. And then he uses it against them. And then he runs away.
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Then he turns and points and at least tries to shoot it. The officers did everything they could
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de-escalate this situation the entire time. They keep saying, you're going to get tased. Warning him
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over and over again. They tell him, hands off the taser. Warning him over and over again. Stop
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fighting. Stop resisting. Warning him over and over again. They really don't want this to turn
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fatal. That's pretty clear. Brooks is going out of his way, doing everything he can. Everything he can
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to escalate this situation. Even culminating in that gratuitously stupid and pointless decision
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to turn and point a weapon at the officers as he's running away. And that was the last stupid
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decision that Brooks made that night. And it was the one that cost him his life. Now, we could pick
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this apart. We can Monday morning quarterback it if we want. We can come up with the things that the
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cops could have done differently. Sure, we could. Now, I don't see anything they could have done
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differently in the lead up to that final moment. Up until that point, they are the picture of
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professionalism and responsibility. They're trying to do everything they can to get this drunk man off
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the street safely and non-violently. And so it's totally by the book. They're being very patient.
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But at the end, of course, one of them takes his gun out of the holster and shoots Brooks.
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Did he have to do that? Did he have to? Probably not. I mean, in hindsight. But hindsight is something
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that we, as people watching this from the comfort of our couches, are privileged to have. In the heat
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of the moment, we want to talk about privilege. Okay, we've got privilege in that we're not in this
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situation. And we're probably not ever going to be in this situation. In the heat of the moment,
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from the officer's perspective, they have gone suddenly from a relatively routine situation,
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arresting a drunk guy, to a struggle for their lives. When you're wrestling a man and he's
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grabbing for your weapon, that's a struggle for your life. Your life is now on the line. He could
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kill you. And you have every reason to think he wants to kill you. And when he runs away and points
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something at him, he's running away, points something at the officers. Do they know it's
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the taser? Could it be a gun that he had on him the whole time? They haven't had a chance to search
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him yet. And what if he hits one of them with the taser and then circles back now that they're
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incapacitated, takes the gun from them? These are all calculations that they have to make
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in a split second, in an extremely charged situation. And not a situation they created or
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wanted. A situation that they were foist into, that they were plunged into, against their will.
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So the question is not whether shooting Brooks makes sense to you, watching the footage three days
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later while comfortably sipping your coffee and saying, oh, here's all the things they could have
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done differently. If it was me, this is what I would have done. The question is whether it could
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have reasonably made sense to them from their perspective in the thick of it. And I think the
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answer is yes. But here's a crazy idea, okay? I've got a really wild thought. What if, for once,
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for a change, just one time, we talk about the choices made by the suspect, okay? The criminal.
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This was a criminal. He was committing a crime, a dangerous crime. Were his choices justified?
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Was he behaving in a way that respects the lives of the officers and those around him and even himself?
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I mean, black lives matter. Did he believe, did he behave like he thinks life matters? Black life
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matter? His own life matters? What responsibility does he carry for all of this? You see, every time
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this kind of thing happens, we talk about what the cops did, what they should have done, what they
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could have done. We never stop to say, what did the suspect do? What could he have done differently?
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What should he have done? We hold the officers 100% responsible for everything while holding the
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suspect responsible for nothing, as if he's an infant or a pre-programmed robot, as if he himself is not
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a grown adult man making choices. Now, just some more examples of what people have been saying to me
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about this stuff, all quite typical. Ted Lew said, taser is a non-lethal weapon. Rayshard was running
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away. Killing him was unjustified and excessive use of force. That's why the cop has already been
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fired and the police chief resigned. No, the cop has been fired and the police chief resigned out of
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sheer cowardice and caving to the mob. It's got nothing to do with the reality of this situation.
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Excessive use of force. Didn't Brooks use excessive force when he assaulted a police officer who was just
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trying to enforce the law? In this case, a very good law, the law against drunk driving.
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What about his excessive use of force? I mean, that was kind of excessive, wouldn't you say?
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Why aren't we talking about that? Bakari Sellers, a CNN analyst, said to me,
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DUI is not a death penalty crime. They shot him in the back running away.
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Right. Is enforcing our anti-drunk driving laws a death penalty crime?
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I mean, were the cops committing some kind of crime that they should have been punished for
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by Rayshard Brooks? He assaulted them and stole their weapon. Did they deserve that?
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You know, the left is all about autonomy and agency, supposedly. They even have an autonomous
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zone now. They have a whole zone for autonomy. Well, each individual person is, in a sense,
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their own little autonomous zone in that you're a person making choices. So what about Brooks's
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autonomy? What about his agency? He is an agent acting in his own right. He chose to turn a non-lethal
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encounter into a lethal encounter. How much responsibility does he bear for that? Zero?
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I mean, is that what you're going to tell me? He has zero responsibility.
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I mean, does he have zero responsibility for how he acts? No, I say 100%. He is 100% responsible for
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his own behavior. Who else can be responsible? I mean, if he's not responsible for it, then someone
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else is. And I don't know who that would be. I'm not. You're not. The cops aren't. Someone is
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deciding how Brooks acts. And I say that Brooks himself is deciding that. I can't think of who
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else could possibly be deciding it besides him. Now think about this for a second. The people who
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are saying that the cops should not have shot Brooks, what they're really saying is that Brooks
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should have been able to assault police officers, steal their taser, and fired at them without being
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killed. So really consider that position. If that's your position, just meditate on it for a
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second. Say it out loud. Say that out loud. I think a man should be able to assault a cop,
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steal his taser, and fired at him without being killed. I think you should be able to do that kind
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of thing without getting shot by the cops. How much sense does that make? How insane do you feel
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making that statement? You ought to feel pretty insane because it is insane. Now, it's also dangerous.
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Is that the kind of message we want to send to criminals?
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That you're, that you can do that and you're not going to be killed. You are, you can do that
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safely. You, you have the right to safely assault a police officer and steal his weapon out of his
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hands and use it against him. You should be able to do that. You can do that. And you're not, you know,
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you're not going to be killed for doing that. So go, might as well give it a shot. If you're getting
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arrested, give it a shot. Hey, why not? Assault a cop, try to get away. They can't do anything.
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Is that, is, do you really think that's a message we should be sending to people?
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It, it's sad that Brooks is dead. It's sad that anytime someone dies, it's always sad.
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But it's sad because Brooks threw his own life away for no reason. It is sad because he made the
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choices that he made and brought this on himself. This was his fault. He is responsible. He paid the
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price, the ultimate price. And it's a sad price. It is very sad, but it's the price that anyone
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is at risk of paying if they make the choices that this man made. This is not a story of police
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brutality. It's a story of a man named Rayshard Brooks, who did a bad thing driving drunk and
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followed it up with an enormously stupid and reckless thing, assaulting a cop and stealing his taser.
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And, and, and after that night, a night filled with bad, stupid, reckless choices, he died.
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As so many others have after nights like that, if you go out one night and decide to do a bunch of
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bad, stupid, reckless things, you might die. And that's why I really hope you don't do that
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because it's sad. It's sad for someone to throw their life away.
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You know, we've been told by the media and by Ray, by Brooks's family and the lawyers that,
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you know, he's a, he's a, a father who just wanted to get home to his kids.
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I believe he loved his kids. He's a father. Okay. You want to get home to your kids. That's not how
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you act. You want to get home to your kids. You don't drive drunk. You want to get home to your
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kids. You don't, you don't assault a police officer and steal his weapon and then turn around and
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pointed at him. You know, anytime I go out, I always want to get home to my kids. That's why
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I would never do those things. So, you know, we could get into the psychology of it. Why did he
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act that way? Part of it, he was drunk. Yeah, that's part of it. Um, but that's nobody's fault,
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but his own. And no one else can be responsible for that. He chose to get drunk and drive.
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So we can get into the, you know, why did he make these choices? So on and so forth.
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But what you can't escape is number one, these were his choices that he made.
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And number two, these are choices that could get anybody killed, which is why it's very sad when
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people make choices like this, but it is not a moral outrage. It's not a moral outrage because
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no moral atrocity was committed. These cops were responding to a situation that they were thrust
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into by this man. There's no, there's nothing to protest here.
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Unless we're going to protest. Let me, let me correct that. Actually, there's a, there's a lot
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to protest. In fact, let's, let's protest this message that's being sent by Democrats on the left
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and the media that violent criminals are not responsible for their own behavior and that they
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should be able to do whatever they want and still be safe. Um, let's protest that message
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because it's, it's a dangerous message and it's a message that's getting people killed.
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You want to talk about the psychology of Rayshard Brooks did maybe one of the things that we can't
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know exactly what was going through his head. I mean, I can't imagine what would go through someone's
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head to make them act that way, but maybe one of the things going through his head is he thought
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he could get away with this because of, because of the cops are under the microscope now and there's
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a whole bunch of people there recording. He knows it. Did that go through his head? I mean,
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has he been watching the news and seeing as people have been able to burn down buildings and riot and
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assault police officers and not even get arrested and let alone shot? Um, was it, was he thinking
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about that? Maybe that's, that's, that's, uh, not an outlandish theory, whether he was thinking
00:24:29.420
about it or not, this is a thought that's being put into people's heads. Uh, and so, you know,
00:24:36.800
that's something worth protesting, but in the end, this comes down to his own choices and, uh, we will
00:24:45.360
move on now to headlines. Number one, there was another march over the weekend. Um, aside from the
00:24:51.180
George Floyd marches and the Rayshard Brooks marches is another march on top of all these marches.
00:24:55.220
This was a black trans lives matter March, uh, BTL M. Uh, so here's aerial footage of the black
00:25:05.040
trans lives matter March in New York. A ton of people there. Um, and a few brief things to say
00:25:11.760
about this. Number one, the justification for this March is that supposedly there's an epidemic of
00:25:19.240
anti-trans hate crimes, uh, especially against black trans people. And so although black trans
00:25:26.400
people and trans people in general are a tiny subset of the population, we need to have a huge
00:25:31.160
march for them to stand up against these, um, against these hate crimes. The reality is that
00:25:37.460
another one of those realities that most people don't want to say because they're afraid of what's
00:25:43.880
going to happen, but this is the reality. And I want you to pay attention. There is no epidemic
00:25:52.440
of anti-trans hate crime. This is a fabrication. This is an invention by the left. It is not true.
00:26:01.340
Like everything else they say these days, it is not true. It doesn't exist. There is no epidemic
00:26:08.640
of anti-trans hate crime. They are lying. They are making this up, which is why when you listen to
00:26:15.840
what the media is saying, they'll often tell you, and I was just reading a CNN article about the black
00:26:20.460
trans, uh, you know, matter protest. And they had a line, a paragraph in there where they said,
00:26:27.060
I think it was like 14. They said so far, 14 black trans people have been killed in 2020.
00:26:33.420
Um, so that's all they tell you as if the very fact that a trans person is murdered is itself
00:26:41.660
proof that it was a hate crime as if every single trans person killed is a victim of a hate crime.
00:26:48.360
Like there's no other reason ever why a trans person would end up murdered. This is nonsense.
00:26:53.680
Of course, trans people are going to be murdered just like people in every demographic are murdered.
00:26:59.960
They're not immune from it. Unfortunately, we, we, we live in a, we're mortal human beings and we
00:27:04.960
live in a society where murder happens, happens. It's happening more and more, uh, across the board
00:27:10.120
in many cities, at least. Um, and it's so you could do this with every demographic. I mean, I could
00:27:18.580
give you a stat for, I don't know how many birdwatchers are murdered every year. I'm sure
00:27:23.540
there's a certain number that are murdered every year. Does that prove that there's a, a serial
00:27:28.080
killer out there killing birdwatchers or there's an epidemic of anti-birdwatching hate crime? No,
00:27:33.080
it just proves that birdwatchers aren't immune from being murdered, which we already knew.
00:27:39.740
Um, Chad Felix Green did a piece about this for the federalist. You can go look it up. Excellent
00:27:43.720
piece. Excellent reporting. And, and he looked at all the cases of trans murders reported by the
00:27:50.320
human rights campaign over the last several years. And he found, you can go look at yourself. I mean,
00:27:54.600
you can go through the links and look at which I have also done. And he found that the vast majority
00:27:59.860
were related to domestic disputes, prostitution, or drugs, not hate crimes. Anti-hate, trans hate
00:28:07.620
crimes are very rare. That's the fact. Do they happen? Sure. I'm sure they happen.
00:28:13.720
You know, uh, hate crimes against all people happen. Is there an epidemic? No, it's a lie.
00:28:20.460
They are making it up. Anyone who tells you otherwise is, is ignorant or lying.
00:28:27.340
Second point. What about social distancing? I mean, this is the obvious, but you look at that
00:28:31.400
picture there, all these people packed in, in New York, you know, like the epicenter of the,
00:28:36.520
what was the epicenter of the pandemic in America. And that's happening. So
00:28:41.160
we're expanding the exception. We already know that, you know, going to church, I mean,
00:28:46.800
it's, if you do that, you're going to get coronavirus. If you go to like a restaurant,
00:28:50.400
you get coronavirus. You go to a beach, you can get coronavirus. Take your kids to the playground,
00:28:54.180
take, send your kids to school. They're going to get coronavirus. Um, but magically, if you're,
00:29:00.220
uh, mad about a police shooting and you go out, then you're, you're immune from coronavirus.
00:29:04.820
And now we also have to include, if you're marching for trans people, you're also immune that,
00:29:09.640
that, that, that confers some sort of immunity over you, uh, apparently, um, which is a fact
00:29:16.800
that even the so-called public health experts seem to be all but endorsing, at least implicitly
00:29:21.240
endorsing. Okay. Number two, uh, important news here. The media reports that Nickelodeon has
00:29:26.600
confirmed that SpongeBob SquarePants is gay in celebration of pride month. They've confirmed it,
00:29:32.340
but here's the tweet that supposedly confirms this. And, uh, as you can see there, they're
00:29:37.640
celebrating pride month. And then we get, you know, we see SpongeBob SquarePants in rainbow colors.
00:29:42.900
Does that mean he's gay? Well, no, because he's a cartoon, uh, and he's also a sponge. He's a,
00:29:48.920
he's a non-existent sponge. Okay. So that's two levels. That would mean that he couldn't possibly
00:29:56.340
come out as gay. Sponges are asexual by the way, which means that SpongeBob SquarePants,
00:30:02.340
is in the LGBTQ plus community. A is in there somewhere. I think it's LGBTQIA plus or something
00:30:09.280
like that. And the A is asexual. So sponges are already in that community. Every time you buy a
00:30:14.240
sponge in the detergent, in the detergent aisle at Walmart, you are showing your pride. You're,
00:30:19.960
you're supporting diversity. Those are different kinds of sponges, of course. But, um, anyway,
00:30:25.840
why am I talking about this? What a stupid time we live in. What a stupid, stupid time.
00:30:32.720
Uh, number three, here's a video that's gone viral over the past day or two. I don't know who this
00:30:37.140
woman is or where she is, but the location, you know, doesn't really matter because this could be
00:30:43.060
any of the many neighborhoods destroyed by rioting in recent weeks. Um, here's a woman, uh,
00:30:49.920
dealing with the consequences of that, that rioting. It's a very, speaking of a sad video. This is a
00:30:55.600
very sad video. Watch this. Look at this. Every grocery store looks like this. Every grocery store looks
00:31:06.440
like this. Everything is either on the floor. Look at this. Can't even get no food for my kids, G.
00:31:21.560
Look at this. Came in the store to try to buy something because I'm not, I'm not, I'm not a
00:31:25.460
thief. Look at this. I am so devastated right now, G. This is not okay for us to have to live like this.
00:31:35.480
We do stupid like this all the time. And we so black proud. We so black and proud that we ain't
00:31:40.560
gonna never be honest and be real about what's really going on. Y'all are so wrong for this.
00:31:44.880
You came in your neighborhood and f***ed up your s***. I'm not a thief. I'm not coming in this
00:31:49.840
store and stealing nothing. And ain't nobody gonna turn me into no animal or make me feel like a thief.
00:31:57.320
Y'all let them white folks send y'all off once again.
00:32:00.320
Yeah. To all of you tolerant liberals who displayed your wokeness by justifying rioting
00:32:06.440
while sitting on your fat, comfortable asses insulated from the damage,
00:32:11.700
that's what you supported right there. That's on you. You know, that's yours. You helped to do
00:32:17.540
that. You cheered that on. You gave that cover. You dressed that up. You intellectualized that.
00:32:22.120
You rationalized that. And then you moved on. Feeling proud of yourself, feeling accomplished,
00:32:28.120
feeling so sophisticated. You didn't have the stupid, simplistic view of rioting that us peons
00:32:37.820
have. We look at it and just say, well, that's bad. To have a bunch of people tearing buildings
00:32:42.160
down and looting and burning buildings and attacking people. I mean, us dumb peasants, right? We look at
00:32:49.200
that and think, that's just bad. That's a bad thing. You shouldn't do that. But you up on your
00:32:53.920
perch, you were much smarter than that. I mean, you had the nuanced perspective and realized that
00:32:58.180
this is a response to systemic discrimination. And that was your very intelligent position.
00:33:09.100
But then you go on and feeling very good about yourself. You move on to the next thing.
00:33:14.280
Leaving that woman and many like her to live in the rubble. So congratulations, you despicable
00:33:20.940
monsters. You pieces of garbage. You awful, miserable excuses for human beings. Congratulations.
00:33:33.360
Number four, here's a leading activist on the BBC talking about the Churchill statues that leftists
00:33:39.720
want to tear down. And apparently seeming to reveal that she doesn't actually know who Winston
00:33:47.980
Should the statue of Churchill be there or not, do you think?
00:33:52.920
Well, I've heard many arguments on both sides. Some say that he's a racist. Some say that he's a
00:33:58.780
hero. I haven't personally met him. But what I would say is that that question of whether he should
00:34:06.520
remain should be put to the community. You haven't personally met him because he's been dead for over
00:34:13.620
half a century. So that's why that's why you haven't met him. This, of course, is very common,
00:34:20.900
though. This is this is what you expect. The people ripping down statues. They don't know a damn thing
00:34:25.120
about the people whose whose statues these who are represented in these. They don't know anything
00:34:30.180
about about them. All they know is that it's an old white guy and that's all they need.
00:34:34.240
No more information needed. You think that the people ripping down statues of Columbus,
00:34:40.100
you think they could tell you a single thing about Columbus other than what they read in the
00:34:44.780
Facebook memes? They could give you a whole list of talking points. It was a genocidal slaveholder
00:34:51.740
rapist. I mean, they could give you all that, the stuff they read in the memes. They give you the
00:34:55.580
meme information, the bullet points. You think they could speak coherently about Columbus for like,
00:35:00.760
I don't know, could they give you a paragraph? Could they write a six sentence paragraph about
00:35:05.620
Columbus? Anything about him? No, they couldn't. They don't know anything about him whatsoever.
00:35:11.540
They don't know anything about any of these. But this is what happens when you have this is part
00:35:16.560
of what the school system has done. Aside from radicalizing a whole generation of Americans and
00:35:22.500
making them hate their own history, making them hate their own, you know, the heroes of America and
00:35:33.880
of the West, Winston Churchill, one of the heroes of the West. And this is something obviously not
00:35:39.300
just happening in the United States. But that's one thing we get from the school system.
00:35:45.060
The other thing is, the other crucial ingredient is absolute ignorance of history.
00:35:53.900
They've got anger and bigotry and certain sort of vague prejudices that they get from the school
00:36:02.440
system when it comes to history. But as for an actual understanding of these historical periods
00:36:07.800
and these people and what they did, what they accomplished, good and bad, they don't have that.
00:36:13.660
But they can tear down a statue. That much they can do. All right, we're going to move on now to our
00:36:19.220
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00:37:33.660
we're going to be canceling AOC for, what is this, the fourth time maybe? Fourth or fifth time?
00:37:38.560
The only person who's been canceled more than AOC is my wife. So they're neck and neck at this
00:37:42.440
point. Many reasons to choose from when it comes to canceling AOC, but here's the latest from her.
00:37:49.360
I think even the term white fragility can really set a lot of people off and saying,
00:37:59.260
what do you mean I'm fragile? This is offensive. And so it's almost ironic that the term is kind of
00:38:10.080
self-evocative in that way. Congress is, I don't know, I mean, it changed a bit, but prior to this
00:38:17.360
term, Congress is about 90% white, which means there are a lot of blind spots. I have seen a lot.
00:38:28.880
from legislators and experienced a lot. And it's really, really difficult to confront and to see
00:38:42.040
how some folks' political comfort is prioritized above other people's ability to survive and to live.
00:38:52.160
Yes. Okay. So the most fragile woman in America who finds sexism and bigotry around every corner is
00:39:00.580
now accusing other people of being fragile. Talk about projection. As for the term white fragility,
00:39:08.140
well, if you want to get a good perspective on that term, just put any other color,
00:39:15.040
any other race in front of the word fragility and see how it looks.
00:39:21.960
But any other race in front of the term fragility, and would anyone deny that it's racist?
00:39:26.700
But it's bigoted? Of course not. The same, of course, goes for men and women. I mean,
00:39:31.340
you can attach a whole bunch of different words to male or masculine that you can't attach to female
00:39:38.420
or feminine. Male fragility, toxic masculinity, all of that's okay. But female fragility, toxic
00:39:46.760
femininity? No. Yeah, you can't do that. That's sexist. That's terribly sexist. No, that would be
00:39:51.800
terrible. So AOC, you see, she herself is very strong, very reasonable, very mature. Above it all,
00:40:01.440
as long as you play by her rules. If you accept her double standards without questioning, if you
00:40:08.480
dance to her tune, then that's fine. As long as she can live in a world where she can vomit her
00:40:15.640
bigotry all over everybody else, and never once hear any criticism from anyone ever,
00:40:22.960
then she's truly a strong and independent woman and an inspiration to us all. But the moment she
00:40:28.360
encounters any pushback, the moment she gets the smallest dose of her own medicine, she breaks down
00:40:34.480
in tears like a damsel in distress, has a temper tantrum, starts screaming about sexism and racism.
00:40:41.600
It is somewhat similar to like a three-year-old. A three-year-old can be an angel, very well behaved,
00:40:50.400
as long as everything is going their way. If you do everything a three-year-old wants all the time,
00:40:54.660
never give any pushback, then they're going to behave great. But the moment they encounter
00:41:00.720
some reality that will not morph to their expectations, the moment you say something
00:41:07.860
they don't like, that's when they freak out. And AOC is very similar to that. This is all a tiresome
00:41:13.560
game, and we shouldn't play it. That's what needs to happen now. Just don't play these games.
00:41:20.540
This double standard stuff, no. It's not going to work that way. I'm sorry. One rule for everyone.
00:41:27.760
That's it. That's all you get. You don't get your own rules. We're not going to abide by that. Many
00:41:33.980
people have chosen to go along with that for way too long. I think we need to stop now. No.
00:41:40.960
White fragility, no, you can't. Sorry, you can't say that. You can't say that. It's not going to work
00:41:46.820
that way. So here's how it is going to work, AOC. If you want to retain the right to accuse
00:41:52.080
white people of racism, should they use a term like fragility to describe other races than their
00:41:57.680
own, which I'm sure, I'm quite sure you would want to call a white person racist for doing that,
00:42:03.400
then that means that you yourself, you must accept, are a dumb bigot. A dumb, hateful, racist bigot
00:42:11.360
for using that term to describe races other than your own. That's the rule that you would want to
00:42:16.940
apply to white people. I'm quite sure. It's the rule. I mean, you've called white people racist for
00:42:22.340
far less than that. So that's the rule you apply to white people. That same rule goes to you.
00:42:28.800
And that would be a perfectly consistent position for you to take. You can say, AOC, you can say,
00:42:34.720
yes, I'm an awful bigot. I hate races other than my own, particularly this one race over here. I hate
00:42:43.680
you guys. And white people who behave and speak like me are also awful bigots, just like me.
00:42:51.180
We're all awful bigots together. That's a fine position. I mean, it's not a fine position. It's
00:42:56.080
a pretty terrible position, morally speaking, ethically. But it's consistent. It's intellectually
00:43:02.420
consistent and logical. But that's what it's going to be. Now, this thing where you get to
00:43:10.900
get to go around saying white fragility and no one calls you racist for it. No, no, you're dumb.
00:43:18.260
AOC is a disgusting, dumb bigot. That's what she is. And that is just a bigoted statement.
00:43:27.380
Think what you say. You're calling a whole race of people fragile. What kind of disgusting
00:43:31.980
racism is that? And we just accept this. We just accept this from a, from a, from a congresswoman.
00:43:40.540
You think Trump could get away with that? You think he could get away with fragile
00:43:43.560
describing any race of people? What kind of reaction would there be to that?
00:43:53.640
Not to mention, I mean, we talk about the double standards here. We could spend all day dissecting
00:44:00.980
the double standards. But what do you really mean when you're calling men fragile? You're calling
00:44:06.880
white people fragile? What do you really mean? That, what, they're emotional? They get offended?
00:44:14.160
Since when is that a problem? I thought you're okay with that. Since when is, especially when you hear
00:44:20.180
about male fragility, which is the other, that's kind of like the cousin of, of white fragility. And
00:44:24.840
if you're a white male, then you're, then you're double, double fragile. But then the interesting
00:44:29.200
thing is with, with male fragility, we're also told all the time that men don't display their emotions
00:44:34.520
enough. They keep it all bottled up. Part of toxic masculinity is that men don't want to display their
00:44:43.280
emotions because they're afraid of being accused of being feminine. And yet we can be told that a
00:44:49.060
man is toxically masculine and he's, and he has male fragility, which is it? It's kind of one or the
00:44:55.640
other. Because if he's fragile emotionally, that means that he's, what, he's too emotional? He's
00:44:59.980
showing off his emotions too much? The thing is, I actually agree that it's a problem for a man to be
00:45:04.980
fragile. I don't agree that all men are, but some men are and they shouldn't be. But you, as a woke
00:45:11.280
leftist, you're supposed to be all about that. You should be defending that. So that's a wonderful
00:45:15.060
thing. You're expressing your emotions. Oh no, no, no. But that, but that's what you would do again
00:45:20.420
if you were consistent and not a bigot, which is what you are. And so you're canceled.
00:45:28.400
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