Ep. 513 - The Left Goes All In For Reparations
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The left is now pushing hard for reparations for slavery. We ll talk about all the reasons why that s a terrible idea. Also, Tucker Carlson s urgent and important warning to the president. And in our daily cancellation, I will be canceling, preemptively canceling the song Imagine before it becomes our new national anthem. God help us all.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, the left is now pushing hard for reparations for slavery. We'll
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talk about all the reasons why that's a terrible idea. Also, five headlines, including Tucker
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Carlson's urgent and important warning to the president. And in our daily cancellation, I will
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be canceling, preemptively canceling the song Imagine before it becomes our new national anthem.
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God help us all. That's what they're talking about doing next. And we'll get to all of that
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All right. Well, an idea that was once on the fringe of the fringe of the fringe is now surging
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into the mainstream. And make no mistake, if Democrats are to take over on election day,
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which might well happen, this will be enacted without a doubt. They will do it. Unlike Republicans,
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Democrats, they actually set out to accomplish their goals. And the promises they make to their
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voters, they actually try to make them happen, even if the promises are horrific. The idea is
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reparations, paying black Americans for slavery, paying them back for the injustices perpetrated,
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injustices perpetrated against their ancestors. This idea was discussed during the Democrat primaries,
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you may remember, and every candidate, to my memory, came out in support of it. Now it's back in the news
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again, back in the discussion again. The New York Times Magazine ran a lengthy piece titled
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What is Owed? Makes the Case for Reparations. And it's been discussed in the mainstream media regularly.
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There was a segment on MSNBC this morning. Here's a segment on NBC, actually their streaming service,
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I believe, referring to the Times piece explaining why reparations should happen.
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Centuries of systemic racism have created a wealth gap in America between black and white Americans.
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In her latest New York Times piece, Pulitzer Prize-winning reporter Nicole Hannah-Jones writes,
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if true justice and equality are ever to be achieved in the United States,
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the country must finally take seriously what it owes black Americans. MSNBC correspondent Tremaine Lee
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interviewed Nicole Hannah-Jones in his latest Into America podcast on reparations.
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Tremaine joins me now. And Tremaine, what are the factors that Nicole talked about here that
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are contributing or have contributed to the racial wealth gap in our country?
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Hey, Allison, more than just a contribution, the actual source, the root of the wealth gap
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goes back to shortly after emancipation, when the entire enslaved population, formerly enslaved
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population, really were pushed out with absolutely nothing, starting from ground zero. And even though
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the government had promised some restitution in 40 acres and a mule, those promises fell through.
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And in fact, the former plantation owners were given back that land that had been promised to
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enslave people. But then after that, decades and decades of Jim Crow laws, lack of access to jobs,
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depressed housing values, on and on up from after emancipation through reconstruction,
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redemption into the 50s and 60s, all of these contributing factors, including the actual
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violent dispossession of wealth, the actual bombing of black Wall Street, the actual burning and looting
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of black communities all across the country. And that land and that wealth and resources were never
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returned. OK, now here's a professor at Duke explaining on the outlet AJ Plus, whatever that is,
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that reparations is the way to close the racial wealth gap. The racial wealth gap is, as you know,
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is staggering. Blacks are about 13 percent of the U.S. population, but only have 2.6 percent of the
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nation's wealth. And that translates into an average household differential between blacks and whites in
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a net worth of about $800,000 in 2016 dollars. That's the gap that needs to be that needs to be closed by a
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reparations program. But how would this all be funded? Well, the professor has an answer for that, too.
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In the book that I've just completed with Kirsten Mullen, From Here to Equality, Reparations for Black Americans in the 21st
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century, we argue that the payments might be made in the form of endowments or a trust account, where
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individuals would be allowed to spend the interest off the account in any given year, but could only
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dip into the principles subject to approval for a plan of action or proposal that they develop.
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In the present moment, you know, the federal government overnight essentially came up with
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$2.2 trillion. Some people say it's as much as $6 trillion because of the loans that were made by
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the Federal Reserve Board. But it came up with that money overnight. There were no new taxes administered.
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I think that the present experience or the current experience demonstrates that the federal government
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can spend on virtually anything it wants to spend on. So his plan is apparently to just come up with
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the money. That's his plan. Just, you know, come up with the money. All right, then. An article on CNN published a
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while ago, says, a little while ago, back during the primaries, gets slightly more specific. It says,
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generally, advocates for reparations say that three different groups should pay for them.
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Government, private companies, and rich families that owe a good portion of their wealth to slavery.
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It then goes on to explain that, at least for the rich families, you'd probably have to extract that
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money through litigation rather than legislation. So between rich families, companies, and governments,
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which are funded by everyone, this basically means that everyone will have to pay at some level,
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in some form, for reparations. And of course, I say that with Democrats in power, this is going to
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happen, which it will. But really, even with Republicans, it will happen too, eventually. We're not far away
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from this becoming an idea that Republicans are even presenting. Now, they'll present it in a
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in a slightly more moderated way. They'll have a reformed idea of reparations. But they're going
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to start proposing this too, because we know the trajectory. This is the trajectory with everything.
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An idea is on the fringes of the left wing. Then it becomes mainstream. Then a few years later,
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it becomes mainstream among Republican circles. Republicans are on the same track and train as
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the Democrats are just a few cars back. So, which is why when you look at so many of the positions
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taken by Republicans today, those are the same positions that Democrats took, you know, back in
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the 90s. So this may be inevitable. But even so, it's worth discussing, what are the problems with this
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idea? There are many problems. Let's discuss a few of them. First of all, this may be the most crucial
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point. The idea that the racial wealth gap is the main driver, or that slavery is the main driver of
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the racial wealth gap. That's something that needs to be addressed. Because the racial wealth gap is
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itself probably the main driver of the push for reparations. It's argued that collectively,
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black Americans are poorer than white Americans. And it's further argued that this is due to slavery
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and segregation. Now, the first part of that argument is true. That's just a statistical reality,
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no getting around it. What about blaming it on slavery and racism, though? There's no doubt that
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history has an impact on everything in the present, including economics and wealth distribution.
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So, no serious person would say that slavery has no effect on what's happening today. Everything in
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history has some effect. But there are things happening today also that are going to have a much,
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much greater impact on the wealth impact, on the wealth gap, I should say. And I'll give you just
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one, the fatherless rate. Black fatherlessness is about 70%. That is, 70% of black children today
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grow up in a household with a single parent. Their parents are not married and their dad doesn't live
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with them. Studies have repeatedly and decisively shown that fatherlessness is a major contributor to
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poverty, the dropout rate, the incarceration rate, crime, drug abuse, suicide, and so on.
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Pretty much every social ill you can name is tied to fatherlessness in some way. Fatherlessness is
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going to be a significant contributing factor to it. So the point is that even if you make some sort of
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payment to black Americans, no matter how large that payment is, it's not going to fix fatherlessness.
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And so it's not going to fix anything, really, economically or socially or in any other way.
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there's not a lot of progress that can be made, especially by just giving money to people.
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OK, second point on reparations. The reparations concept really demonstrates just how simplistic
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and binary and literally black and white our thinking has become. Black people were enslaved,
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white people were slave owners. Therefore, white people should pay black people. That's
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that's the thought process. Even leaving aside how long ago this was and the fact that, as already
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explained, other social factors are doing much more today to hold the black community back,
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leaving those things aside, this assumes that every black person is a descendant of American slaves and
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every white person is a descendant of slave owners in America. It also assumes that if historical
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injustice should mean present day reparations, only black people have suffered injustice that needs to
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be repaired. All of that is wrong. A great many black Americans today, millions, came here or are
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descendants of people who came here after, often well after the end of slavery and even after the end of
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segregation. You know, let's say a black person whose parents came to this country in 1975.
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Would they get reparations? Meanwhile, most white people and their lineage never had anything to do
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with slavery in America. And that was true even when slavery was ongoing. In 1860, a small minority of
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Americans countrywide owned slaves. Depending on where you look, you know, it was something like five to ten percent.
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Um, certainly minority countrywide, even in the south, uh, a minority.
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So, if we were doing reparations, you know, right after slavery was abolished,
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which if it was going to happen, that was when it should have happened.
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But, but even then, um, you would have been talking about a minority of Americans
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who should have paid, because they were the ones who owned slaves. And they were the ones who
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immediately benefited from slave labor. Now, tack 150 years onto it, and take into account all the
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many millions of Americans who came to this country sometime in the intervening period,
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it would make no sense whatsoever for a person whose ancestors came here from Poland, or Italy, or whatever,
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a few decades ago, to be forced to pay for crimes that were committed a century and a half ago,
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thousands of miles from where that person's ancestors actually lived.
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And the only reason they're being told to pay it is because of the the pigment of their skin.
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This is unjust. It's not, it's not paying for the crimes of your ancestors, which already is unjust,
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I would argue. But this time you're paying for the crimes of other people's ancestors, that you had
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nothing to do with and your ancestors had nothing to do with. Moreover, we aren't taking into account
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the persecution and oppression faced by many other groups of people.
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Should a Jewish person whose grandparents fled the Holocaust in 1940 and came here and faced
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anti-Semitism, should they have to pay for the persecution carried out by other people against
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other people? Why? And if we want to talk about the legacy of an atrocity and how it negatively
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affects people today, could not that Jewish person argue that they would be in a much better spot
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today if not for the fact that half of their lineage was wiped out in a concentration camp?
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I think they could argue that. What about an Irish person whose family escaped the potato famine,
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which killed a million people in about four or five years, came to America, faced segregation,
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discrimination, ethnocentricism, all targeted against them? Signs hanging in businesses saying,
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no dogs, no Irish, or Irish need not apply. This is a person who also, if not for those forms of
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historical oppression, may be in a better place today. And yet they would be made to pay.
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But doesn't society owe them too? On the reparations theory, doesn't society also owe them
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something? Now, maybe you would say it doesn't owe them as much as it owes black people, but it owes them
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something, doesn't it? So shouldn't we be talking about reparations on a spectrum where everyone
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who is an ancestor of a persecuted minority is given something? You see, that's the other problem.
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Once you go down this road, there's no limiting principle. Pay reparations to black people, then
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it's hard to argue at that point that you don't pay to Native Americans. In fact, I would assume most
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of the people who support reparations for black Americans would probably say, yes,
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let's give it to Native Americans too. So, okay, then you've got those groups. What about Asian
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Americans who were sent to internment camps? Or other groups of Americans who face segregation
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and discrimination? And on and on you go. Now, again, you could argue that some of those groups
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are owed less than others. However you measure this, which it seems impossible to measure and quantify,
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but however you do it, you could find a way of staggering it and, as I said, put it on a
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spectrum. But the principle that justifies payment of some kind to one group also justifies payment of
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some kind to others. And then you get to a point very quickly where almost everyone in America is owed
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reparations for something. And the whole idea breaks down. So it's a concept that makes no sense.
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It would only increase injustice. It certainly wouldn't remedy it. And that's why it's an idea
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that we need to meet forcefully. But I'll tell you exactly what's going to happen. What's happening
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right now is that a lot of people on the right aren't even bothering to argue the point
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because they figure they're making the same mistake they always make with everything.
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Thinking that this is a fringe thing. It's not going to happen. No one, you know,
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no one really takes it seriously. We're not really going to do this.
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No, it's not fringe. They really want to do it and they will do it, especially if we don't say anything
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about it. Let's move on to news headlines. Speaking of things that need to be said. Number one, Tucker
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Carlson, who I think is one of the most important voices in America right now, had an excellent monologue
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last night and his message needs to be heard loud and clear, particularly by one person who hopefully
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was watching. He would change the course of this country's future if the Justice Department rounded up
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the leaders of Antifa tomorrow, along with every single person caught on camera, torching a building,
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destroying a monument, defacing a church and put them all in shackles and then frog marched them in
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front of cameras like MS-13 and called them what they actually are domestic terrorists, not protesters,
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not civil rights activists, not CNN contributors, but domestic terrorists. That would be their new
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government approved title. Once they're charged, it's official. In fact, they are literally as
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a factual matter accused terrorists and that would change minds right away. Most people don't like
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terrorists. Terrorists will never be popular, even among democratic voters. So charge them for the
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crimes they've committed and call them what they are. Right now, the opposite is happening. The terrorists
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are more popular than the president of the United States and not just more popular than Donald Trump
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personally, but more popular than the system he represents and administers. And it's obvious why.
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Our system is weak. It refuses to defend itself. Mayors let new countries sprout in the middle of
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their cities. Our leaders act like laws are irrelevant. Everyone watches this happen.
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It's a potentially fatal problem. Weak institutions die. Citizens develop contempt for them and then they
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get overthrown. The same is true, by the way, for heads of state. When you refuse to fight for the system
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you run, you're done. Spend an hour on Google and see if you can find a single leader in the history
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of the world who stayed in power after failing to quell a rebellion. You can't. By the way,
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that clip was shared by a media matters person calling it maybe the most deranged rant I've heard on
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Fox News. Meanwhile, he said that was deranged. Meanwhile, all normal people think it's one of the sanest
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things we've ever heard, or at least recently heard. Tucker is exactly right. And if anyone needs
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to hear him loud and clear, it's primarily the president. Now, I know some of you don't like it
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when I criticize him. I know that. That's fine. You don't have to like it. But I'm telling you the
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fact of the matter. Tucker's saying the fact of the matter, like it or not. Trump is losing right now.
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I'm not just talking about the polls. The polls are one indicator. But it's not just about that. I
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don't need, I don't even need to see the polls. I don't care what the polls say. Trump is losing
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right now. Make all the lame excuses you want. But if Trump continues tweeting while America burns,
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he will lose. More than that, he will deserve to lose. It's better for his supporters, I think,
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to face this fact now, put some pressure on him, than to whisper sweet nothings in his ear,
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telling him that the law and order tweets are great and totally sufficient. Everyone loves it.
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He's doing great. Nothing is wrong. They aren't sufficient. Everyone doesn't love it and shouldn't.
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The tweeting in general, I think most people, I get it. Again, if you're a diehard fan,
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then you're always going to love the tweets. But most people are not diehard fans and never were.
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Trump won 2016 with 70,000 votes that gave him the electoral college victory while losing the
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popular vote by 2 million votes. This is a, he won by a hair's breadth. So, I mean, his supporters
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have been lying to him and he's been lying to himself since day one, saying that it was some
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sort of landslide victory. Not even close. This needs to be communicated to Trump in a hurry.
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Because right now, it's like the guy isn't even trying. He did a town hall on Fox last night. I
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don't know if you watched this thing. And he was asked what his plan is for a second term. Now,
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he's asked by Sean Hannity. You could ask for a friendlier interviewer. And you could ask for an
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easier question. What's your plan for the second term? You got to have an answer to that. That's,
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that's, you're a president. You're an incumbent president running for a second term. Somebody asks you,
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what's your plan for a second term? You should be boom, boom, boom, boom, have answers.
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This is what Trump said. Let's talk about a second term.
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If you hear in 131 days from now, at some point in the night or early morning,
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we can now project Donald J. Trump has been reelected the 45th president of the United States.
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Let's talk. How did, what's at stake in this election as you compare and contrast?
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And what is, what are your top priority items for a second term?
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Well, one of the things that will be really great, you know, the word experience is still
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good. I always say talent is more important than experience. I've always said that.
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But the word experience is a very important word. It's in a very important meaning.
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I never did this before. I never slept over in Washington. I was in Washington,
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I think 17 times. All of a sudden I'm president of the United States. You know,
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the story of riding down Pennsylvania Avenue with our first lady. And I say,
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this is great. But I didn't know very many people in Washington. It wasn't my thing. I was from
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Manhattan, from New York. Now I know everybody. And I have great people in the administration.
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You make some mistakes like, you know, an idiot like Bolton, all he wanted to do is drop bombs
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on everybody. You don't have to drop bombs on everybody. You don't have to kill people.
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That's just nonsense. I don't want to hear, it's Trump being Trump. I don't give a damn if it's
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Trump being Trump. Trump needs to stop being Trump. That's babbling, ridiculous nonsense.
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You were asked a question. What's your plan? People actually want to hear it. It's a good question.
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That was not an answer. If the guy can't even tell us what he wants, what he wants to do in a second
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term, why should anyone vote for him? He literally can't give you a reason to vote for him other than
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Joe Biden, blah, blah, blah. That's not going to be enough. It was enough against Hillary. Okay.
00:24:22.500
To beat Hillary, all you had to do was say, look at Hillary, Hillary, Hillary, Hillary.
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I think this time around, when you're in the incumbent and you have a record for better or worse,
00:24:30.020
you need to actually present a positive reason to vote for you, for you. What is good about you?
00:24:38.340
Now, this excuse that people are providing for Trump, that his supporters are providing,
00:24:43.900
Trump is doing nothing as anarchists destroy the country. The excuse is, well, we'll let the leftist
00:24:51.260
cities destroy themselves. No. That might seem like the sort of tough approach. It's not tough. It's
00:24:59.820
weak and cowardly. It's the weakest BS I've ever heard. What you're saying is, let's give the
00:25:08.400
criminals and anarchists everything they want. That'll show them. So what you're doing, if you
00:25:15.580
let them destroy themselves, no, it's not them destroying themselves. It's allowing criminals and
00:25:20.620
anarchists to do what they want, while innocent Americans in those cities suffer. Trump is the
00:25:28.380
president of those people. And it's not, and you, and if your next, if your next move is to blame
00:25:35.680
them for living in the city to begin with, that's not going to be a winning message. Well, they deserve
00:25:41.320
it. They, they made a choice to live in a city because that's where they found a job. You might
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be able to soothe yourself with that message. That is not a winning message. Trump is the president of
00:25:53.200
those people. He's their president too. You're not punishing the anarchists by letting them do what
00:26:01.560
they want. Is it, is this what people do with their kids? I guess, yeah, this explains a lot,
00:26:05.780
really. This is how a lot of parents act with their kids. I'll show them by letting them stay up all
00:26:10.900
night playing PlayStation. They'll learn their lesson eventually. Yeah. Maybe, maybe 30 years from
00:26:15.720
now, when they look back at their wasted childhood, that's when they'll learn their lesson.
00:26:18.560
That's not good enough. No, they need to learn their lesson. Now you're the parent, do it. Now I
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certainly hate to compare a politician to a parent because that's not the relationship politicians
00:26:27.020
supposed to have with the public, but still these people are acting like children and worse. That's an
00:26:32.320
insult to children. They're acting like worse than children and they do need to be punished. Law and
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order, not just a tweet. He's floundering. It's pathetic. He's going to lose. That's the reality.
00:26:51.740
Number two, they're coming for Mount Rushmore. Uh, now a report from daily wire says on Thursday,
00:26:56.880
USA Today quoted that a tribal leader of the Sioux nation saying that although Mount Rushmore should
00:27:02.240
not be blown up, it should be removed. How do you remove a mountain? I don't know. Um,
00:27:09.540
Oglala Sioux president, Julian Bear Runner, who expresses disapproval of president Trump's visit
00:27:14.820
next week to the Black Hills, South Dakota stated of Mount Rushmore. I don't believe it should be
00:27:18.660
blown up because it would cause more damage to the land. Uh, but he agrees that it should be removed.
00:27:25.000
And then there's a lot of stuff about how this is a symbol of, uh, Nick Tilson of the Oglala
00:27:30.260
Lakota tribe, uh, said Mount Rush, Mount Rushmore is a symbol of white supremacy of structural racism.
00:27:36.580
That's still alive and well in society today. Ah, and on and on and on. And they'll do it.
00:27:42.720
They'll do it too. They'll do anything they want. Okay. The people that are seeking to tear down the
00:27:49.000
monuments and tear down Western civilization and all of its icons and heroes, they're just getting
00:27:54.120
whatever they want. And that how, that's how we're, again, that that's how we're, we're punishing them
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by just letting them do it. Great strategy. Wonderful. Number three, here's something to think
00:28:09.680
about, uh, next time you're at the beach. Look at this drone footage of a great white shark, gigantic
00:28:13.940
beast swimming right under unsuspecting surfers. Good God almighty. Now, you know,
00:28:21.960
I like the beach. I love the water, but it is kind of a weird thing we do, isn't it? I always think
00:28:27.660
if aliens were to come to this country, they would be, that'd be one of the many things they're very
00:28:32.480
surprised and confused by. They would say, why are these humans gathered around and for no constructive
00:28:39.420
reason, swimming and paddling in this giant salty death trap where man eating monsters are lurking in
00:28:47.120
the depths? And a lot of them aren't even doing anything. And if you go to a beach, they're just
00:28:53.020
standing in it, letting the, the, the ferocious waves pummel them in the face while they get sand
00:29:00.820
up their shorts and they do that for an hour and a half. And then they go home. What was the point
00:29:05.380
of this ritual? That's what the aliens would be asking. I imagine. Of course, I'm also assuming that
00:29:11.720
aliens don't know what an ocean is. I mean, if they didn't have an ocean on their home planet,
00:29:15.720
then there would be no civilization to begin with. So, you know, there are problems with my
00:29:18.560
hypothetical, but anyway, number four, after 30 years, the Dixie Chicks are changing their name.
00:29:23.000
They will now be the Chicks, not the Dixie Chicks. Why is the word Dixie offensive? This is,
00:29:30.820
this is a very interesting in a lot of ways. And it shows among other things, what I'm always talking
00:29:35.960
about, how feminists are constantly having to take a back seat on when it comes on the modern left,
00:29:42.000
feminists are very close to the bottom of the totem pole. They're, they're almost, at this point,
00:29:47.340
they're treated almost like white men to be a feminist. You're, you're, you're, you're very,
00:29:52.640
you're not that much, you're not that, that, that much higher, you know, on the hierarchy than white
00:29:59.340
men are as feminists because all of their interests are thrown to the side. And you see here,
00:30:03.740
so Dixie Chicks changing their name and they're going to keep one of the words. They decide to keep
00:30:09.120
chicks, which the feminists have been saying for decades is offensive. And now they're just the
00:30:15.700
chicks. We've got to get rid of Dixie, but not chicks. I just think that's very emblematic of
00:30:22.500
the situation on the modern left. And, and of course, meanwhile, you've been the Dixie Chicks for 30
00:30:29.960
years. You're just now deciding that it's offensive after three decades. What changed your mind? What made
00:30:38.780
you realize that it's offensive? What, what were you told in the last year or few months really
00:30:46.720
that you didn't know already that made you decide that it's offensive? Now it's not offensive. The
00:30:51.560
word Dixie is not at all offensive, but if you think that it is, what new information were you
00:30:58.240
provided that brought you to this conclusion? Or have you thought that it was a racist name all along
00:31:04.320
and you, and so you've just been white supremacists for 30 years? Which is it, Dixie Chicks?
00:31:11.580
I didn't even know that Dixie Chicks still, still, still existed, to be honest. I had no idea that they
00:31:15.480
were still out there making music. All right. Number five, a report from Fox Carolina. A very sad,
00:31:23.040
disturbing, infuriating story. The Forest City Department, Police Department, said a young girl has died after
00:31:29.380
she was severely injured in a shooting on Tuesday evening. The shooting happened along the intersection of
00:31:33.320
Oak Street and Harmon Street around 5 p.m. The officers arrived, found two individuals pulling a seven-year-old
00:31:41.260
girl from a vehicle, and she was suffering a single gunshot wound to the head. Now they arrested Shaquille
00:31:52.000
Marchand Francis, 26 years old, charging him with shooting this girl in the head. They haven't been, there's,
00:31:59.340
there's no information about motive or anything. Not that motive matters at all with a crime like
00:32:05.720
this. But here's the thing. Francis, the monstrous scumbag, or alleged monstrous scumbag, was released
00:32:16.500
from jail just a few hours before. One of the reports I read said that he was released from jail on
00:32:21.300
different charges, other charges. I think it was assault by pointing a gun at someone. He was, one report
00:32:28.580
said, three hours earlier he was released, and then allegedly immediately went and shot a girl in the
00:32:37.360
head. This goes back to what I've been, the drum I've been banging for weeks now, that if we're going
00:32:44.880
to be doing reforms, reforms that protect black lives and all lives, then rather than police reform being
00:32:54.580
the first thing we do, we should be looking at reforms that would prevent murderous sociopaths from
00:33:03.360
walking the streets. Because the current strategy is that criminals, dangerous criminals, get out of
00:33:09.840
jail a million times until they do something so unbelievably heinous that there's no choice but to
00:33:17.280
lock them away for, and even then, a lot of times it's not forever, it's for, you know, but at least
00:33:22.040
for many years. That's the strategy right now. I mean, you have someone who you just, you know,
00:33:29.040
they've committed many crimes, many of them violent, and you just, you know that eventually they're going
00:33:33.380
to do something utterly horrible. And, but all we do is just wait for them to do that thing. And to that
00:33:38.840
victim, even if it's a seven-year-old girl, apparently the system is saying, well, you know,
00:33:43.520
too bad, basically, is what, is what the system is saying to these victims.
00:33:56.680
You know, if you have someone, if this is the crime that he committed, assault with a deadly weapon before,
00:34:02.560
what is he doing back out on the street? Keep him in jail. This is a dangerous person.
00:34:06.860
Why are you letting him out? That should be our reform. All right, we're going to move on to our
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daily cancellation. By the way, if you haven't gotten the Daily Wire reader pass yet, you should
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I mean, my, my latest article talking about, um, the, the, you know, the, the left's message now
00:34:39.640
that it's simply not okay for actors to pretend to be something they're not. And I was talking about
00:34:46.320
the case, Kristen Bell and Jenny Slate, two actresses that decided to stop voicing, uh, cartoon
00:34:51.420
characters who were not white. Now, of course, cartoon characters aren't white or black or any
00:34:56.260
cartoon characters don't have a race because they're cartoon characters, but that's what we're being told.
00:35:01.120
You just, even in the, in the context of an animated cartoon, you can't pretend to be something you're
00:35:05.200
not. And, uh, so I'm talking about that in that article. You can go read it now. Okay. Uh, for the
00:35:09.660
Daily Cancellation, I'm going to be canceling one of the worst songs ever written, a song that has been
00:35:15.200
the bane of my existence, a blight on our society and a scourge on the earth for decades. That's John
00:35:21.840
Lennon's Imagine. And I'm canceling it because for one thing, it's just a terrible song that gets credit
00:35:27.420
for being one of the great songs ever written. So that's one reason. Two, I'm canceling it in a
00:35:33.920
preemptive strike. This is a strategic preemptive cancellation because activists are now talking
00:35:38.820
about making it our new national anthem, not a joke. Well, it is a joke, but not an intentional
00:35:44.140
one. An article in Yahoo titled why it might be time to finally replace the star-spangled banner
00:35:50.100
with a new national anthem makes the case that we have to get rid of the song because apparently
00:35:55.080
you won't believe this. Francis Scott Key, who wrote the song and was born 250 years ago,
00:36:00.360
uh, had some problematic views on race. Crazy. Um, you know, of course, 250 years ago,
00:36:08.640
all people had problematic views on race, but we're going to hold them accountable now for the crime of
00:36:13.560
being born in the wrong century. They, you know, Francis Scott Key and all these other people,
00:36:18.840
they should have made a more virtuous choice in what century they were born in.
00:36:23.400
And that's, that's their fault. We're going to hold them accountable for it.
00:36:26.780
Tear down the statues. Francis Scott Key had a statue torn down and I think it was San Francisco
00:36:30.920
this week. And now they're going to get rid of the song too. And yeah, that's that they deserve it,
00:36:36.620
I guess, because of that, because they, they should have thought better about what century they were
00:36:40.900
born in. They should have in utero, they should have said to their mom, Hey, Hey mom, what century is it?
00:36:47.240
Oh, it's, uh, it's the, it's the, it's the, uh, the 18th century. Oh, you know what? I don't want
00:36:53.220
to be born yet. Let's let's check back in in the, you know, 20th, 21st. Um, there are a few
00:37:00.380
suggestions of what to replace it with, but imagine is a popular one. One activist explains that imagine
00:37:07.420
is quote, the most beautiful unifying all people, all backgrounds together kind of song you can have.
00:37:12.740
Is it though? Here are the lyrics. I mean, we all know the lyrics, but just, just when you have just
00:37:18.820
the lyrics, okay. And John, John Lennon is supposed to be a great songwriter, a poet, right?
00:37:26.700
Imagine there's no countries. It isn't hard to do nothing to kill or die for and no religion to
00:37:31.520
imagine all the people living life in peace. You may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one.
00:37:37.000
I hope someday you'll join us and the world will be as one. Imagine no possessions. I wonder if you
00:37:42.780
can. No need for greed or hunger, a brotherhood of man. Imagine all the people sharing all the world.
00:37:51.240
This is, uh, now, first of all, the idea of destroying all religions and countries isn't
00:37:56.980
very unifying to people who have a religion and love their country. But second, this is just,
00:38:01.880
this is like something a sixth grader would write if he was given an assignment to write some sort of
00:38:07.680
profound, socially conscious song. That's what a sixth grader would come up with. And if I was the
00:38:13.320
teacher, I would give it a C minus at best. Imagine there's no greed or hunger, but yeah.
00:38:21.020
Well, I'm glad I, I, I listened to, to imagine because before I did, it never occurred to me
00:38:27.780
that it would be better if there was no greed or hunger. I never, I never thought I was,
00:38:32.520
I was actually more in the pro greed and hunger camp. I was very pro hunger, really. And then I
00:38:37.540
heard John Lennon song and I thought, you know, he really makes a good point. Maybe it'd be better
00:38:42.460
off without greed and hunger. Wow. Now, you know, I could right now come up with additional verses
00:38:50.300
off the top of my head. That would be at least as good as what's in that song.
00:38:57.000
And in fact, I'll do it. And because, you know, if this is going to be our new national anthem,
00:39:00.380
it needs to be a little bit longer. That's one problem. It's a, it's a, it's a little short.
00:39:03.920
So let me suggest, you didn't know that I'm a poet too. I'm a poet. I am as good a poet as John
00:39:10.460
Lennon. And I'll prove it to you. Let me suggest a couple of additional verses for John Lennon. I'm not
00:39:16.100
going to sing them, but I'll spoken word poetry so you can really absorb the impact of these words.
00:39:22.560
Imagine only good stuff happening and really good stuff too. No bad stuff, no sad stuff,
00:39:32.120
and no mad stuff too. Imagine everyone's happy and they're being real nice.
00:39:39.800
No one's being super mean. And there are no fights.
00:39:48.260
That's that two, two verses right there. Boom. Just like that. I just wrote half of a classic
00:39:54.500
all time great song just right, right there on this podcast. You didn't, you didn't know you'd be
00:40:01.100
witnessing that. Um, and, uh, I don't know that that's something that's just something from my
00:40:10.000
heart. Okay. That's where my heart is right now. You know, listening to the song, I thought he covered
00:40:17.200
a lot of stuff that we shouldn't have like greed and hunger, but I'm thinking all the bad stuff,
00:40:23.560
you know, let's not, let's not focus on this bad thing or that, but let's get rid of all the bad
00:40:29.860
stuff. Even more than that, let's start thinking about what if everyone is just happy all the time?
00:40:37.460
Wow. Pretty mind blowing. I know. Um, but even so, uh, John, uh, the song, imagine is canceled and
00:40:45.900
all efforts to replace the national anthem are also canceled. But I would warn again that all of,
00:40:51.340
all of this, we can make jokes about it because sometimes you think, what else can we do? Um,
00:40:56.880
especially when the people that we've elected to do things about it are doing nothing.
00:40:59.860
But we should remember that, that, that all of this, this is serious on the left. This is really
00:41:08.000
what they want to do. And they will do it if nobody prevents it. If nobody steps in, in, in the path,
00:41:14.820
all of it's happening. You think replacing the national anthem with, with imagine is some outlandish,
00:41:21.000
crazy idea. It is, but you think that's going to prevent it from actually happening? No, not at all.
00:41:28.320
And on that bright note, we will leave and, uh, end it for the week. Have a great weekend,
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