The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 514 - Was America Built On ＂Stolen Land＂？ It's Not Nearly That Simple

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, the left now says that Mount Rushmore has to go because

00:00:04.340 it was carved on stolen land, they say. But the reality isn't nearly as simple as that.

00:00:09.680 In fact, the whole narrative of white settlers stealing land from Indians isn't quite that

00:00:16.480 simple. We'll try to inject some historical context and reality into this discussion today.

00:00:21.780 Also, five headlines, including the bloodbath in our cities over the weekend.

00:00:25.700 Where is Black Lives Matter on this? They're nowhere to be found.

00:00:28.460 And an education council meeting in New York descends into total leftist insanity.

00:00:34.760 You have to hear it and see it to believe it. But it raises a question of why would anyone

00:00:40.860 send their kids to public school at this point? I think there's just no excuse to do that.

00:00:45.280 So we'll talk about that today and so much more, all of that on the way.

00:00:48.620 But we start here. The latest monument to come under fire by the left, as I mentioned,

00:00:53.600 is one that they'll probably need more than a chain and a band of vandals to pull down.

00:00:58.460 Mount Rushmore is, according to the media, a symbol of white domination and, quote,

00:01:03.380 white supremacy. And even worse now, it's the site of a President Trump speech. So that's the

00:01:07.340 ultimate historical atrocity. And so it must be, as a recent New York Times article put it,

00:01:13.160 reconsidered. We have to reconsider it. Seems a little bit late now to reconsider it,

00:01:17.820 if you ask me.

00:01:18.480 Oglala Sioux President Julian Bear Runner believes the monument should, quote, come down.

00:01:24.700 But these are giant 60-foot faces carved into a mountain, by the way. He says it has to come down,

00:01:31.400 but not via explosives. So because blowing up a 60-foot face carved into the side of a mountain

00:01:38.420 would, Bear Runner concedes, probably cause more damage than whatever unspecified damage is caused

00:01:45.040 by its continued presence in the first place. So what are we going to do? Maybe we put a tarp over

00:01:49.380 it. Maybe, here's a better idea. We could, you know, those gag glasses with the noses and the

00:01:54.660 funny mustaches? We could make really big versions of those and put them on all the faces. You know,

00:02:00.620 because that way it covers up the white supremacy and it's funny to look at. So that's an idea.

00:02:06.000 But the most interesting part of this belated Mount Rushmore backlash is the repeated claim

00:02:13.900 that we have to repent of the monument and somehow remove it because it was built on stolen land. It's

00:02:20.440 that particular claim I want to focus on. Here's a, here's just a quick compilation of the media

00:02:24.320 saying this over and over again. Donald Trump chose the most grandiose symbol of U.S. imperialism on

00:02:31.860 earth to usher in a very on-brand star-spangled spectacle. The mother of all photo ops, Mount 0.79

00:02:39.280 Rushmore. And we know why this president just can't resist going there. President Trump will be at

00:02:45.160 Mount Rushmore where he'll be standing in front of a monument of two slave owners and on land

00:02:50.520 wrestled away from Native Americans. We have to acknowledge that Mount Rushmore is sitting on 1.00

00:02:55.780 Lakota land. The place Donald Trump is going to on Friday is stolen land. Senator Tammy Duckworth,

00:03:03.840 who's being considered for Joe Biden's VP spot, has also echoed this, this theme over the weekend.

00:03:10.060 She was asked about it and she also said that it's on stolen land. I think we should listen to the,

00:03:16.120 everybody. I think we should listen to, to the argument there. But remember that the president at

00:03:20.780 Mount Rushmore was standing on ground that was stolen from Native Americans who had actually 1.00

00:03:26.100 been given that land during a treaty. And again, let's talk about the greater context of where we

00:03:32.540 are in our country right now. You know, the, our historical past, we need to talk about what we're

00:03:36.940 doing now to bring this country off of the brink of chaos that it's in. Okay. Stolen, stolen from

00:03:43.720 quote, Native Americans who acquired it quote, during a treaty, she says. Now there's a lot

00:03:51.200 in there that I think needs to be dissected because a lot of it is wrong. And we'll talk about all that

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00:05:24.000 as so many leftists tend to do, you know, she speaks of native Americans as if they're all this,

00:05:30.720 this, this, this homogenous unified group. So, so white settlers stole the land from native Americans

00:05:38.800 generally, she says, which is kind of like saying the British stole land from Asians when they occupied

00:05:45.400 India. No, you wouldn't say that because they didn't take it from Asians. They didn't take land

00:05:51.160 from the Chinese, the Vietnamese. They took land from Indians. Um, and that's, that's what you would 0.99

00:05:58.940 say. And the distinction is important. In fact, leftists usually would be the first to tell you

00:06:03.800 that it's racist to erase or minimize or ignore these kinds of distinctions to act like there's

00:06:10.540 no difference between someone from one Asian country or another, or no difference between one 0.93

00:06:16.120 Indian tribe and another. They would usually say that's racist. Yet in this case, they're doing it 0.99

00:06:22.800 themselves. Why is that? Well, I think there's a reason why the, we stole the land crowd 1.00

00:06:28.160 is often sort of hesitant to get specific on the matter of who exactly we stole this land from,

00:06:35.940 whether it's the Black Hills in South Dakota or any other plot of land that we supposedly stole.

00:06:41.320 Now, the problem I think is helpfully illustrated by this PBS article, which says the Black Hills were

00:06:47.160 appropriated. And this is, this is a claim, not just by PBS, but anytime the media gets more specific,

00:06:52.200 uh, they're going to tell you they were is appropriated from the Lakota Sioux tribe who were

00:06:57.540 according to PBS quote, the original occupants of the area. Now that is, if you have any understanding

00:07:06.080 of history at all, that is an absolutely ridiculous claim. It would be like me saying that I was the first

00:07:15.880 person to ever fly. I, I invented human flight when I took a plane from Baltimore to Charlotte last

00:07:23.500 March. It's in fact, that would be less ridiculous because the Lakota Sioux were thousands of years

00:07:32.560 removed from being the first people, the original occupants of the Black Hills. There has been a human

00:07:38.120 presence in the Black Hills since prehistoric times going back over 10,000 years. And from that era,

00:07:45.320 until the U S stole it, allegedly many groups of people have fought often quite brutally for control

00:07:53.520 of that region. Slightly more recently, the, uh, Ericara tribe moved in around the time that

00:07:59.500 Columbus sailed the ocean blue around, you know, the, um, the late 1400s, early 1500s, the Cheyenne,

00:08:05.280 the Kiowa, the Crow, uh, other tribes all arrived in short order to fight for their own share of this

00:08:13.280 coveted mountain range. Finally, after hundreds of years of this, the Lakota, the alleged original

00:08:20.760 occupants came in the 18th century and drove all the other competitors away and established control

00:08:27.440 of, of that area. Now it's, when I say drove away, it's worth noting that for Indian tribes, driving 1.00

00:08:34.280 competitors away often meant murder, pillage, torture, scalping, and similar, uh, methods.

00:08:42.640 The U S did not take the Black Hills from its original occupants. The original occupants had long

00:08:49.900 since been exiled or exterminated by other native American tribes. The U S arrived and was formed

00:08:57.780 and founded thousands of years too late to take it from its original occupants. Um, it would be more

00:09:06.920 accurate to say, now this is not ever how it's actually phrased, but if you care about accuracy,

00:09:11.780 what you're going to say is that, uh, the U S took the Black Hills from the most recent tribe that had 0.93

00:09:18.780 taken it from the tribe that had most recently taken it before them and so on and so on and so on.

00:09:24.100 Now this is not mere pedantry. Okay. This is not, um, I'm not being pedantic and getting into like

00:09:29.920 splitting hairs here. The point is that white settlers and pioneers, um, by trying to claim

00:09:38.220 and conquer new land, we're not introducing some new horror to the continent. It wasn't like they

00:09:45.480 were doing something that these, these Indian tribes were scandalized by because they'd never heard of

00:09:51.060 anyone doing this before. Okay. Now the Indian tribes were, would have, would have been angry, 1.00

00:09:56.480 um, about being moved out of their land, but they weren't scandalized by the concept the way that we

00:10:03.340 are now, because this is exactly what they were doing to other Indian tribes for thousands of years. 0.87

00:10:09.980 The white settlers were playing the same game of conquest that Indian tribes had been playing, 0.98

00:10:14.980 that all people everywhere across the earth had been playing since the dawn of human civilization.

00:10:22.680 It is just absurd to treat the theft of land by Europeans and Americans as a unique evil for

00:10:29.360 which we must repent and take down our monuments and shame and weep and cry and just over and over

00:10:35.800 and over. We could never stop talking about it. What a terrible evil. We stole this land. We don't

00:10:39.780 deserve to be here. My God. Wars of conquest have been waged, had been waged in this part of the

00:10:48.660 world for thousands of years before any white man graced these shores. Wars of conquest of taking over 0.80

00:10:58.360 land and killing everybody there, enslaving their children and taking their scalps as souvenirs. That's 0.91

00:11:04.940 what was happening in this country before anyone with, uh, with, uh, uh, you know, lighter skin tones ever

00:11:10.840 showed up. Slavery, torture, killings, rape, pillage, all of these were utterly common features of Indian 1.00

00:11:20.620 conflict. Anyone who says otherwise is a lying or stupid. Now the white man came and jumped into that 1.00

00:11:30.760 fray. He didn't invent the fray. This is how the world worked long before air conditioning and Taco

00:11:39.520 Bell and Twitter accounts. And we certainly can't say that white people were unique in their barbarism 1.00

00:11:46.060 in the manner in which they went about doing these things. Um, such claims are rendered absurd by even

00:11:52.420 a cursory study of tribes like the Comanche who were known to torture babies to death and roast people 0.99

00:11:58.380 alive or the Iroquois who committed a campaign of extermination against the Huron tribe over a

00:12:04.880 century before the United States was founded. Basically wiped them out. There's a book by,

00:12:11.220 uh, S.C. Gwynn, who's got, got, I've read a few of his books and they're all really good.

00:12:15.080 Empire of the Summer Moon about the Comanche tribe. And as he talks about in his book, you know,

00:12:20.240 these were, and this is not, this book is not one long, uh, defense of or apology for white

00:12:26.460 settlers. It's, it, it, it doesn't flinch from the evil done by that group either, but it gives a 0.87

00:12:33.660 balanced account. And part of that balanced account is to acknowledge that Indian tribes in North

00:12:39.420 America were almost without exception, brutal and warlike. And you could say, well, that was,

00:12:47.320 that was the case across the world. Yes, you're exactly right.

00:12:51.080 But you go back far enough and everybody was that way everywhere.

00:12:59.560 And that's to say nothing of the Mesoamerican tribes like the Aztecs and the Maya who engaged

00:13:04.800 in human sacrifice on a scale that is impossible to fathom. Archaeologists are still uncovering the

00:13:11.900 endless towering racks of skulls where the dismembered heads of the butchered victims were kept.

00:13:18.400 Now it isn't difficult to see maybe why the Spanish conquistadors, you know, may have developed

00:13:28.260 a less than favorable impression of the cultures they encountered when they first landed in Central

00:13:33.480 America. Just imagine what you would think if you witnessed an Indian priest rip a still beating

00:13:39.540 heart out of a child while he was still alive. I mean, what would you think if you saw that?

00:13:46.040 This doesn't excuse the many acts of brutality committed by the Spanish, and there were many

00:13:54.940 such acts, or any other group of Europeans or Americans during the 400-year clash of civilizations

00:14:01.400 that took place between, you know, the white man and the Indian tribes. But it does underscore the need

00:14:09.220 for historical context. It was a harsh and violent age. This is not, now anytime you get it, someone

00:14:16.380 says, people say, oh, this is whataboutism. This is not whataboutism, you dunce. This is about historical 0.98

00:14:22.020 context. It's impossible to honestly and fruitfully and constructively talk about these things unless you

00:14:29.660 understand them in context. It was a harsh and violent age. And the world was being tamed and settled

00:14:38.680 by harsh and violent men across the world. Empires were being built by such men across the world in

00:14:48.300 this, in the new world too, before it was the new world, before Europeans ever showed up. There were 0.96

00:14:53.660 empires. And they became, how do you think they became empires? How do you think the Aztec empire,

00:15:00.840 the Mayan empire, how do you think any of these empires established them? Through tickle fights,

00:15:11.220 pillow fights, through constructive dialogue, through debate? You think that's what they did?

00:15:17.300 No, they came into weaker tribes and killed everybody, enslaved their children, in some 0.99

00:15:25.740 cases gang raped the women. That's what the Comanches would do and took over. Now, we, I think, 1.00

00:15:37.200 should be thankful that we have the luxury to feel squeamish about it now, about the way the world

00:15:42.880 worked, about the, you know, the law of conquest. We should be very thankful that we live in a world,

00:15:51.840 at least in this part of the world, that, well, until the anarchists succeed in pulling us down

00:15:57.280 into anarchy again, at least for now, this is becoming less the case, but for now, you know, we,

00:16:02.580 we live basically safe and comfortable lives. And as far as we're concerned, most of the lines have

00:16:09.420 been drawn and we just live here in relative luxury. In fact, not just relative luxury,

00:16:15.380 but we live in luxury that would have been unthinkable, unknown to the vast majority of

00:16:21.400 the human race that is, that has ever existed anywhere on earth. So we, you know, a lot has

00:16:28.340 been said about the historical sins of white Westerners. We have been confronting those sins 0.81

00:16:34.060 for years now, and I'm sure that confrontation will continue. It's never allowed to stop.

00:16:39.300 But if this confrontation occurs in a vacuum without taking into consideration the context

00:16:45.240 of the time or the brutality of the foes that the Westerners faced, then we'll be left with the

00:16:51.420 impression that white people today are the descendants of history's greatest villains and

00:16:56.000 that nothing they did was justified, let alone admirable or worthy of celebration. And so, yeah,

00:17:01.140 turned out, tear down all the statues, all the monuments, they did nothing good. These were

00:17:06.840 all the bad guys. And of course, fostering this mistaken impression is the point. That's why we're

00:17:15.080 not allowed to have a discussion. That's why somehow it's like provocative for me to say the things that

00:17:22.360 I'm saying right now. According to some people, it's not just provocative, it's outrageously offensive

00:17:28.440 and racist. All I'm saying is verifiable historical truth should not be provocative at all. To point

00:17:38.700 out that 300 years ago, 500 years ago, 600 years ago, 1,000 years ago was a brutal time. Everybody

00:17:46.460 was violent and lines were drawn through killing each other. You know, to most people in the world

00:17:55.780 hundreds of years ago, the idea that you should just respect someone's boundary and the land that

00:18:04.400 they claim for themselves, even if they can't defend it, that idea to most people across the world would

00:18:09.640 have been absurd. It would have been ridiculous. It would have been ridiculous to many Indian tribes. 1.00

00:18:15.880 The idea that they should just, okay, well, that's your land. You can't really, we're stronger than

00:18:20.820 you and we have better technology. And we want that land for our hunting ground because you've got a

00:18:26.680 lot of, a lot of, a lot of buffalo in your land and, and, and, and everything else. And you've got

00:18:30.580 resources. But, but that's, you, you were there first. And so we'll, we'll just let you have it.

00:18:35.760 The, I, the, the very notion of that would have been laughably ridiculous

00:18:41.780 because if they couldn't defend the land, you took it. Your right to your land extended as far

00:18:51.860 as your ability to defend it. That again was the reality across the world for thousands and

00:18:58.060 thousands and thousands and thousands of years.

00:19:04.820 And I think that that context matters. It doesn't matter in assessing the objective morality

00:19:13.680 of the things that happened in the past. Murder is murder and is always evil.

00:19:19.680 Stealing what is not yours is, is stealing and is always evil. Doesn't matter if it happens in the year

00:19:25.240 2020 or the year 2020, right? But assessing the moral culpability of the people who commit these

00:19:38.400 acts, that's where historical context really matters. So I have to say this again because it's

00:19:46.140 important. And this is where I'm always going to be misconstrued. And probably it doesn't matter how

00:19:51.300 much I, I, uh, emphasize the point. I'll still be misconstrued because a lot of the misconstruing

00:19:56.720 that goes on is willful, but still I will emphasize it again. I'm not saying that 500 years ago or 300

00:20:03.780 years ago or whatever, uh, that it was okay to take land or kill people or pillage or do any of that

00:20:10.160 stuff. What I'm saying is assessing the moral culpability of the people who engaged in those acts

00:20:18.800 requires an understanding of historical context. Historical context is, is relevant to the question

00:20:26.120 of culpability, not so much of the objective moral truth of the matter. And that's it. Okay. We will

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00:21:58.080 celebrate the moments that matter most. Okay. Number one, it was a bloody weekend. Five children

00:22:03.520 were killed in our cities over July 4th weekend. All of them black children. Nine people were shot in

00:22:08.400 Baltimore. 69 people were shot in Chicago. 16 of those were killed. 25 were shot in Atlanta,

00:22:14.220 um, in, in a one 24 hour period on Sunday, including an eight year old girl who was killed

00:22:21.040 right near the spot where Rayshard Brooks was justifiably shot in self-defense by police.

00:22:26.420 But there have been protests going on there because of that, because of that justified shooting of a

00:22:31.520 violent criminal. Um, and in the midst of all that chaos and 18 year, uh, rather I should say

00:22:37.040 an eight year old girl was killed, uh, shot while she was in the car with her parents. The parents of

00:22:43.600 the child spoke out, uh, at a news conference. Watch this. They say black lives matter. You get your 0.81

00:22:50.760 own. Get your own anytime. Just because of barrier. They killed my baby because she crossed the barrier 0.97

00:22:58.120 and made a U-turn. You killed a child. She ain't do nothing to nobody. They didn't give us time to make a U-turn. 1.00

00:23:04.440 They started shooting on my car before we could even make a U-turn. Shooting my tires out like, why?

00:23:10.760 Why? Black lives matter. 0.81

00:23:16.760 My baby was shot in her bed. Killing your own. Nobody got to help me. You killed an eight year old child. 1.00

00:23:24.200 Nobody. She ain't did nothing to none of y'all. She just wanted to get home to see her cousin. 0.89

00:23:32.360 That's all she wanted to do. She just wanted to get home. So now you watch that very gut-wrenching video

00:23:38.280 of grieving parents. And you see in tragic detail, the total absurdity of the black lives matter 1.00

00:23:46.680 organization and the destruction destructive movement that it has helped to launch because

00:23:52.840 BLM has nothing to say about this child or for this child or on this child's behalf. There will be no

00:24:00.520 protests, no riots, not for her, not for any of the other four children killed this weekend, or the,

00:24:06.280 any of the dozens of other people killed in general just this past weekend in our cities.

00:24:11.960 Now think about this. Nine unarmed black people were shot and killed by police all of last year. Nine.

00:24:19.960 Only a couple of those shootings were questionable. Most of them were justified. 25 people

00:24:27.880 were shot in Atlanta in 24 hours. Now, Black Lives Matter tells us the first thing, the nine people, 0.90

00:24:37.160 that's a horror worthy of rioting and protesting. The second thing, the 25, is not. Nine people in a

00:24:44.520 year versus 25 in a day in one city. Nine people across the country in a year versus 25 in a day in one

00:24:51.560 city. Which is the greater epidemic? Which is the greater crisis? Which is affecting communities

00:25:01.320 more? To reinforce the point again, compare nine unarmed black people killed by cops in one year to

00:25:07.320 nearly twice as many black people killed in Chicago in one weekend. There are dozens of ways to frame

00:25:14.840 this. Nine unarmed black people killed by police versus five children killed in one weekend.

00:25:23.000 Now, you know, Black Lives Matter. If the name of their organization was something like

00:25:31.000 police brutality is bad, PBB instead of BLM, well then they'd have a little bit more of an excuse to 0.99

00:25:37.240 ignore the carnage in our cities as they're doing. But the name of the organization is not police

00:25:41.880 brutality is bad. The name of the organization is Black Lives Matter. They're supposed to be 0.99

00:25:47.160 fighting for, defending, attesting to the inherent value of black life and of all human life. That's

00:25:56.120 what they would say. I mean, they would claim that, you know, they're not saying that all lives don't

00:26:00.040 matter. They're focusing on this problem of black life being dehumanized and devalued in our society.

00:26:08.600 That's what they would say. And if that's their mission, and they say that it is,

00:26:15.000 then there is nowhere that this mission is more necessary than in our cities,

00:26:20.280 addressing the violence problem within the communities themselves.

00:26:25.000 The person who shot into the car where that eight-year-old girl was sitting and killed her,

00:26:29.080 that is a person who devalued her life, discarded it, treated her life as nothing.

00:26:37.560 Most of these people that were killed this weekend, most of them would have been killed for nothing,

00:26:43.160 for no real reason, either randomly or in robberies or in gang disputes or drug-related

00:26:48.200 violence, or for some other totally frivolous reason. Yet, you know, so yes, there is a real

00:26:57.160 problem with life being devalued in this country, black life especially. But it's happening mostly

00:27:03.960 within these communities, and BLM has nothing to say, because they are frauds. They are total,

00:27:09.560 absolute frauds. Number two, New York City's Community Education Council District 2 had a

00:27:16.120 Zoom meeting recently. And you can actually watch the entire video because it's public record.

00:27:21.160 I don't know if you're going to want to do that because how long you can stomach,

00:27:26.040 you know, may vary. It's really one of the most nauseating spectacles of SJW insanity that you'll ever

00:27:31.800 see. If you're a little bit more optimistic, maybe you would say it's one of the most hilarious

00:27:36.280 spectacles. I don't know. I can't find the humor in it as much because these lunatics are teaching

00:27:42.680 our children. If not for that detail, I'd be laughing too. But the part that scares me is that 0.94

00:27:48.680 these are the people teaching our children in schools. So let me just play one clip for you.

00:27:52.360 Just one example. Here's a councilwoman, Rachel Brochy, taking another council member to task for 1.00

00:27:59.080 committing the sin of allowing a black child to sit on his lap. Now, I'm not joking here. This is, 1.00

00:28:04.760 she's offended that a white man let a black child sit on his lap. And somehow that makes 0.96

00:28:11.080 the other guy racist. Watch. It hurts people when they see a white man bouncing a brown baby on their

00:28:20.040 lap and they don't know the context. That is harmful. That makes people cry. It makes people

00:28:26.840 log out of our meetings. They don't come here. They don't come to our meetings and they give me a hard

00:28:33.160 time because I'm not vocal enough and I'm not trying to be a martyr. I'm trying to illustrate

00:28:39.160 to you that you think I'm a, excuse me, you think I'm a social justice warrior and you think I'm being

00:28:46.040 patronizing and I'm getting pressure for not being enough of an advocate. And I take that to heart and

00:28:53.240 that hurts me. And I have to learn to make how to be a better white person. I would like to know

00:28:59.240 people telling you that. I would like to know before this meeting adjourns how having my friend's nephew on my

00:29:06.120 lap was hurtful to people and was racist. Can you please explain? Tom, I've explained it to you. You can Google, you can read a book. Read a book. Read

00:29:15.240 Read a book. Read Ibram Tendi. Read white fragility. Read how to talk to white people. No, it's not my job to educate you. You're an educated white man and you can read a book. My friend is going to educate you.

00:29:31.240 Oh, dear God. Dear God. Do you see why I'm such an advocate for homeschooling? These people have entirely lost their minds. We are watching as leftism descends completely into insanity. We are witnessing

00:29:43.240 a collective descent into madness, perhaps unlike anything the world has ever seen before. And it is, it is at the, at the, at the tip of that spear is the public school system. So get your kids the hell out of it right now.

00:30:01.020 And, you know, parents will often, because I'm, I'm railing against public school system all the time because the school system is an abomination in pretty much every conceivable way. And what I hear from parents a lot is

00:30:11.760 that they don't want to send their kids to public school, but they don't have any other option because they can't homeschool because they have both have to work or it's a single parent household and they can't afford private school. What else are they supposed to do?

00:30:25.280 And we're getting to the point where, I mean, really any other option, send your kids into the woods to be raised by coyotes. Okay. Anything would be better.

00:30:34.520 Really anything would be better than sending them into the public school system.

00:30:39.580 We are, we are quickly approaching a point where they're, they're just, it would be difficult to come up with a solid justification for willfully subjecting your kids to this.

00:30:52.160 Number three, here's something. Check out this viral photo of a maternity. It's a, it's a maternity photo shoot, which is a thing, I guess, where pregnant women get professional photos done of themselves because people have an insatiable appetite to see pictures of themselves and any opportunity is a good one.

00:31:10.280 It seems so, uh, there's a twist though here. Here's a, here's the pictures. Um, and she says, uh, as you can see her, her, her pregnant belly is, is covered in bees.

00:31:23.420 The queen says the queen is tethered to my belly inside of a cage. We just dumped the bees on me and they naturally began to beard. I was terrified as I am allergic, but it was worth it.

00:31:34.580 So can I just say, I had to mention this because I'm, I, as a beekeeper myself, can I just say that I do not endorse or support, uh, the trivialization and objectification of bees as you see in that photo there.

00:31:53.460 I'm not concerned about the, you know, the fact that, that, that how dangerous it is for people. That's, that's not my point.

00:32:01.800 Bees should not be objectified in this way. 0.87

00:32:04.580 Or commodified or otherized in the way that you see in this photo here. I'm absolutely outraged by that.

00:32:13.580 Number four, uh, a mob of vandals in Baltimore tore down a statue of Columbus over the weekend.

00:32:18.660 Once again, no attempt was made to prevent it. No attempt is being made to apprehend the criminals as far, as far as I could tell.

00:32:24.000 Here's what the mayor's spokesman said. He said, um, our officers in Baltimore city who are some of the finest in the country,

00:32:31.680 they are principally concerned with the preservation of life. That is sacrosanct. Everything else falls secondary to that secondary to that, including statues. Okay. So now somehow we have this. So there's a,

00:32:41.780 you have to make a choice now. You can't do both. If it's not a crime that directly threatens human life, then you can commit it.

00:32:49.800 Is that, is that, is that really the message you want to send from the mayor's office? Well, apparently it is.

00:32:55.860 Now I want you to compare that reaction to this in California, where a white man and a white woman painted over a city approved BLM mural.

00:33:07.600 Uh, it was right across, I think it's right across the street. There was an, in big, big letters. It said black lives matter. Uh, and, uh, two people came and painted over it.

00:33:15.920 Uh, and here's what their police department says, uh, reading now from NBC. It says, uh, says the woman was caught on video by onlookers as she painted over the words black lives matter on the street in front of the Contra Costa County courthouse.

00:33:27.560 While the man appeared to film her on his phone, authorities are asking the public to identify the couple so that they may be held accountable for their actions.

00:33:36.160 According to the police chief, uh, the press release says the community spent a considerable amount of time putting the mural together only to have it painted over in a hateful and senseless manner.

00:33:46.040 The city of Martinez values tolerance and the damage to the mural was divisive and hurtful. So you just see, and of course that, you know, many leftists in the media, they're, you know, passing around the video of these two people painting over the mural and saying how horrible it is.

00:34:00.600 Listen, they finally found a, a form of vandalism that they disapprove of. And it's painting over a mural on the street.

00:34:10.280 You know, these statues that are being torn down, you want to talk about a lot of time being spent.

00:34:17.220 Um, there is a considerable amount of time putting the mural together. It's just, it's just letters on the street.

00:34:23.460 Okay. I could have done that in 15 minutes.

00:34:25.140 That Columbus statue that was torn down or something, these other statues, especially that are much older, do you know how much time they took to make and how much pride these communities have taken in them for decades only to have this band of, of, of criminals tear it down because they personally don't like it.

00:34:45.700 Yeah, but that's okay. Uh, but painting over a mural. Now there, now there is vandalism that is just totally, uh, unacceptable. Apparently let's move on to our daily cancellation for our daily cancellation.

00:35:00.120 I'm going to be canceling, not just these two girls, but, but them and anyone like them. Watch this. 0.95

00:35:05.440 I'm ashamed to be an American where not all folks are free. And I won't forget the enslaved who died and built this place for free. So I proudly lift up all the folks who are still oppressed today.

00:35:22.340 Cause there ain't no doubt this ain't our land. F**k Trump and f**k the USA. 1.00

00:35:29.220 Ouch. Another cringe challenge there. That's a tough one to get through. That's real. That's difficult. 1.00

00:35:35.440 And the worst part is that they had to sit down and rehearse this and plan it and probably write it and practice it.

00:35:44.360 They had a little bit of choreography in there too. And from the sound of it and the look of it, it seems like they're at the pool.

00:35:51.440 You can hear the water in the background. They seem to be wearing bathing suits. So they're relaxing at the pool.

00:35:57.080 And suddenly they decide to spend their time writing a song about how much they hate living in the country where they have the luxury to hang out at the pool,

00:36:03.960 singing songs about how much they hate their country. Just imagine having a mind that works that way where you're sitting there.

00:36:12.040 It's July 4th weekend. You're in the sun. You're having a drink, maybe drink some lemonade, relaxing.

00:36:18.860 And you turn to your friend and say, you know, I really hate it here. 0.64

00:36:25.980 It's just, imagine being such a miserable person.

00:36:31.360 But as I say, I'm not just canceling them. I'm canceling anyone like them.

00:36:34.540 Like, for example, these people as well.

00:36:36.760 So a cute little rhyme there.

00:37:04.580 They're not quite as inventive or elaborate as the girls singing the other song.

00:37:08.720 But as you see, these are all well-dressed, well-fed, privileged brats chanting about the inherent evils of the country

00:37:15.560 that allows them to burn its flag in the middle of the street without consequence.

00:37:19.160 Now, it should go without saying that if they tried that stunt in many other countries across the globe,

00:37:25.360 they'd all be dead or in shackles before they got to 5, 6, 7, 8.

00:37:28.780 Now, I mean, if you look in India, for example, you can be imprisoned for wearing clothing with the Indian flag on it,

00:37:36.200 much less burning the flag in the middle of the street.

00:37:38.560 In Malaysia, 9 Australians were sent to jail for 3 days for wearing Speedos decorated with the Malaysian flag.

00:37:45.700 The slightest disrespect to the flag in Saudi Arabia, it will be met with extremely severe punishment,

00:37:52.960 and that includes flying the flag at half-mast.

00:37:56.400 Even that is considered to be flag desecration and punishable by prison time.

00:38:01.180 So, or worse, you know, this is Saudi Arabia we're talking about. 0.94

00:38:04.180 But, of course, these protesters don't have to worry about that because they live here,

00:38:07.980 where they have, in fact, not just freedom, but much more freedom than they should have.

00:38:13.800 They have freedom, for example, to burn buildings and destroy public property.

00:38:17.640 That's freedom they should not have by any reasonable, you know, point of view, but they do.

00:38:26.200 But the fact that they live here, that's the interesting part.

00:38:30.420 And this is why all of these people are canceled.

00:38:33.900 And I know I'm obviously not the first person to make this point.

00:38:37.080 I'm probably not even the millionth person to make this point, but it's a good point, 1.00

00:38:41.080 and one that has yet to be answered.

00:38:42.680 And so I'm going to make it again.

00:38:46.540 And the point is this.

00:38:47.760 If you believe that America is inherently evil, systemically racist, 0.96

00:38:53.580 and, in fact, that there is no progress, not even the election of a black president, 0.97

00:38:58.480 that could even slightly change that fact.

00:39:00.800 And if you further believe that this country was built on stolen land and that we have

00:39:06.820 no right to be here, that there's almost nothing praiseworthy or good and certainly nothing uniquely

00:39:12.220 good about America or its history, then the obvious question remains.

00:39:16.180 Why the hell are you here?

00:39:20.180 Why don't you leave? 0.96

00:39:22.540 There are 195 countries in the world.

00:39:24.900 We're just one of them.

00:39:25.860 That leaves you 194 other countries you could go to.

00:39:28.940 Two-thirds of those countries are in largely non-white, non-Western areas.

00:39:34.220 Why don't you move to one of them?

00:39:37.400 Seriously, why not?

00:39:38.180 This is not a rhetorical question.

00:39:39.380 I really want to know the answer.

00:39:42.400 Now, the first and most obvious and really only available rebuttal or answer to this question

00:39:47.880 is that they stay here despite feeling this way about America

00:39:51.700 because they want to fight for change and progress.

00:39:54.580 And that's what it's all about.

00:39:55.920 That's why they're not going to leave.

00:39:57.720 But that excuse is a total non-starter

00:39:59.560 because the things they hate about America are all things that cannot be changed if they are indeed true.

00:40:06.140 And even the things that seem like they should be able to be changed if they were true

00:40:11.480 apparently can't be.

00:40:13.720 If this country was built on stolen land

00:40:16.120 and we have no right to be here,

00:40:18.800 then there is no social progress that will ever change that fact.

00:40:24.060 It would be like buying a car that you know is stolen

00:40:27.500 and rather than giving it back to the owner,

00:40:30.820 you decide that you're going to drive it around,

00:40:34.300 but you're going to keep it clean

00:40:35.280 and you're going to give old people rides to the supermarket every Wednesday 0.96

00:40:42.720 or something like that.

00:40:43.760 You're going to use your car for good.

00:40:46.540 You can do all you want like that,

00:40:48.820 but that's not going to change the fact that it isn't your car

00:40:51.900 and you shouldn't have it.

00:40:52.960 And by driving it, you are participating in and profiting off of its theft.

00:40:58.600 The supposed systemic racism in our country

00:41:01.520 would seem like something that could be fixed if it existed,

00:41:03.900 which it doesn't, but if it did, you'd think,

00:41:05.880 okay, well, there's something at least that we can fix.

00:41:07.580 But as I said, the left has made it clear that nothing can really change that. 0.63

00:41:11.340 By their telling, the election of a black president

00:41:13.540 didn't even improve the problem of systemic racism. 0.67

00:41:16.880 It's not just that we still have a problem.

00:41:19.280 It's that it's not even better after that.

00:41:22.040 It's still as much of an issue now as it ever was before, according to them,

00:41:27.160 which means it would seem that it can never be changed.

00:41:30.280 America is sick to its core, according to them.

00:41:34.880 So given all of this,

00:41:37.360 I mean, if you believe that these are all givens, 0.96

00:41:39.920 I don't, but if you do,

00:41:41.880 the only ethical choice is to donate your assets to a Indian reservation

00:41:46.440 and move to a country in Africa or Asia or even Central or South America.

00:41:52.260 And, you know, that would seem like the only ethical option.

00:41:58.420 Yet nobody is doing this.

00:42:00.760 It's not just that only a few of the protesters are doing it

00:42:04.900 or that not enough are doing it.

00:42:07.020 None of them are.

00:42:08.600 None.

00:42:09.360 The option isn't even being discussed.

00:42:12.320 It's not even brought up.

00:42:13.860 All of these people sitting around, burning the flag,

00:42:16.580 lamenting our existence on this stolen land.

00:42:18.980 None of them, none of them ever stop and say,

00:42:22.720 hey, you know, maybe we should just leave.

00:42:26.020 It would be like if I claimed that a local store sells stolen merchandise 0.91

00:42:29.960 and that its management is comprised of murderous racists 0.97

00:42:33.840 who use the profits from their stores to subjugate and kill minorities. 0.97

00:42:38.580 And yet I still went there every day to shop,

00:42:41.520 walking through the aisles, shouting my laments.

00:42:44.740 Oh, no, woe is me.

00:42:46.280 This store is terrible.

00:42:47.600 This is an awful store.

00:42:48.720 It's a store should not be here.

00:42:50.880 Hey, by the way, how much is this fedora?

00:42:52.320 $45?

00:42:52.900 That's not too bad.

00:42:53.540 Okay, I might.

00:42:54.260 Anyway, what was I saying?

00:42:55.140 Oh, yes.

00:42:55.620 Oh, this store is terrible.

00:42:57.080 Oh, my God.

00:42:59.820 If you caught me acting that way,

00:43:01.780 there would only be two possible explanations.

00:43:03.600 Number one, I don't really believe any of the claims I'm making about the store.

00:43:07.880 Or two, I am willfully complicit in the evil done by the store and its ownership,

00:43:12.680 and therefore not any better than them.

00:43:16.100 Now, in the case of these protesters and the others who profess their hatred for America

00:43:19.960 while choosing to remain here,

00:43:21.620 I think the first explanation is probably closest to the truth. 0.96

00:43:25.160 They don't really believe this bullcrap that they're spewing.

00:43:28.440 They don't really believe it. 0.99

00:43:30.200 It's a game.

00:43:31.640 It's just something to do.

00:43:32.780 They're bored.

00:43:34.580 They're looking for a boogeyman to fight against.

00:43:39.160 And so they're out there acting like they're freedom fighters,

00:43:42.840 struggling against an enemy that doesn't exist,

00:43:47.820 acting like they're being oppressed.

00:43:49.960 Meanwhile, they're able to do literally whatever the hell they want. 0.99

00:43:56.440 Yet you're so oppressed that you can go and burn down a freaking building 0.97

00:44:00.580 and steal all the merchandise and nobody will arrest you for it. 0.99

00:44:04.420 That's how oppressed you are.

00:44:08.080 Now, as I said, it's not just that you're more free than anybody else in the world.

00:44:13.020 You're way more free than you should be.

00:44:14.940 Because that's a freedom nobody should have.

00:44:19.760 Yet, if you're on the left and you're a quote-unquote protester, you have that freedom.

00:44:25.680 I mean, you belong to the most free group of people that maybe has ever lived.

00:44:31.740 So, no.

00:44:36.220 I just don't believe that they believe what they're saying.

00:44:40.660 I don't.

00:44:43.320 Because if they really did,

00:44:45.820 now, maybe on some level, you know, on some surface level, consciously,

00:44:49.740 they've been able to fool themselves.

00:44:51.560 But if they really, really believed it,

00:44:54.720 then that's what they would do.

00:44:57.160 There would be no excuse, no justification

00:45:00.260 for not donating your assets to an Indian tribe and leaving.

00:45:06.760 Lead by example.

00:45:10.200 Right?

00:45:10.700 America was never great.

00:45:12.760 America was never great.

00:45:14.000 It's not great now.

00:45:15.260 It can never be great.

00:45:16.580 If all of these claims about it are true.

00:45:21.740 So, go to a different country.

00:45:23.000 Go to a country that, even if there are no great countries,

00:45:25.200 there's got to be a country better than this one, right?

00:45:26.880 This is a racist dystopia.

00:45:30.720 Built on the back of slaves and through the blood of genocide, you would say, right?

00:45:34.760 So, I mean, there's got to be many better options.

00:45:41.960 But, no.

00:45:42.660 You stay here. 1.00

00:45:43.880 Because, again, you're all frauds. 1.00

00:45:46.720 All of you. 0.98

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The Matt Walsh Show - July 06, 2020

Ep. 514 - Was America Built On ＂Stolen Land＂？ It's Not Nearly That Simple

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