The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 532 - The Mask Wars Are Incredibly Stupid

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, the mask wars are driving people insane. But the mask issue should

00:00:05.660 not be ideological and doesn't need to be a battleground in the culture war. So today,

00:00:10.260 I hope to inject a little bit of basic common sense into the mask debate, because a lot of

00:00:14.320 that is lacking. Also, five headlines, including crazed Taylor Swift fans doxing a music reviewer

00:00:19.700 who didn't like Taylor Swift's album enough. She liked it, but not enough. And so she got doxed.

00:00:25.200 And in our daily cancellation, I'll preemptively cancel the false narrative around the latest

00:00:29.300 video of a man dying in police custody. I have the video footage. We'll talk about it. Of course,

00:00:34.260 there's a lot of false narratives already cropping up. All of that coming up. Okay. Beginning here.

00:00:39.180 Look, usually I save the daily cancellation for the end of the show, and we will have one at the end

00:00:44.140 of the show. But today is going to be a rare double cancellation. We will cancel at the beginning and

00:00:49.240 at the end. And who knows, maybe in the middle too. You never know. What I really like to do is cancel

00:00:54.540 any and all mask cultists on either side. Okay. Pro mask, anti mask. Anyone who intentionally makes

00:01:03.180 a scene in public over masks, pro or anti, is canceled. Anyone on a crusade to spread the good

00:01:08.640 news or bad news about masks is canceled. Anyone who even talks about masks is canceled. I'm so sick

00:01:15.380 of it. Which means that I'm canceled too. Fine. This is a kamikaze mission on my part. This whole mask

00:01:21.800 thing is driving people quite literally insane. Masks have become somehow a societal touchstone,

00:01:29.000 a battleground for the culture war, which I suppose shouldn't surprise me. I mean, even butter and

00:01:34.620 syrup and chicken sandwiches have been battlegrounds for the culture war in recent times. But now masks

00:01:40.780 have become a way for both sides of the culture to signal their allegiance. You know, they have become

00:01:47.940 a way to identify the in-group and the out-group. Pro mask versus anti-mask. The two tribes.

00:01:54.140 Because everything is tribal these days. So I want to show you the latest example. This is a video 1.00

00:01:59.720 pretty disturbing in a lot of ways. This is from a Walmart in Georgia. Watch this.

00:02:06.240 Yes, you heard that right. The old woman in the mask wishes death on the family. The 1.00

00:02:12.440 family that doesn't have a mask to include the small children. She wishes death on small children 0.99

00:02:40.280 because they aren't wearing masks. Like I said, driven insane. She says, I hope you all die because 1.00

00:02:46.680 you're going to kill me. Now, even if that were true, what kind of adult, especially older adult, 1.00

00:02:52.280 wishes death on small children in order to preserve their own lives? You know, this four-year-old must die 0.95

00:02:59.400 so that I can live another few years and be miserable and selfish the whole time. I have to spread my, 0.99

00:03:04.240 I still have so much more misery and selfishness to spread throughout the earth.

00:03:07.660 Um, then again, I shouldn't be shocked because a similar thought process has led to the murder of

00:03:12.860 60 million children in the womb in this country. So what else could I really expect? And also for

00:03:18.140 the record, of course, she is not going to die because those people aren't wearing masks. She is

00:03:24.020 going to die at some point. We all will, but it's not going to be because that family wasn't wearing a

00:03:27.760 mask. She's wearing a mask. All she has to do now is avoid them. Walk in the other direction. 0.89

00:03:33.320 If anyone in that family has the virus, it isn't going to jump out of their mouths and travel

00:03:38.440 through the store, through the aisles to attack her while she's over in the raisin bran aisle or 0.65

00:03:44.240 whatever she's doing. So if you're really worried that, that, uh, about people who aren't wearing

00:03:48.540 masks, why are you in their face yelling at them? Just walk away, give them space. Isn't that what you

00:03:55.300 would do if you're afraid someone has a deadly disease? Well, let's be fair here. Okay. Pro mask cultists

00:04:01.940 aren't the only ones making scenes in public. I'll show you another video. This is a video and there

00:04:06.780 are many like it of a guy at a grocery store in California going crazy, screaming at employees

00:04:13.700 who are simply trying to enforce, uh, their company mask policy. Watch.

00:04:18.460 Keep me alone. Stop touching me. I'm not touching you. Don't touch me. Get away from me. No. Get away from me.

00:04:27.300 He needs to leave. He needs to come off. No. He needs to listen to me. No. I'm not touching you. I'm telling you're not.

00:04:37.020 Not long. You need to leave right now. Don't hold him. Some policy is my job. Put it on.

00:04:44.100 There you go. Let go of my f***ing car. No. Let go of my f***ing car. Let go of my f***ing car. 0.99

00:05:02.620 Get it out of my f***ing face. Get the f*** out of my face. Get go of my f***ing car. Get the f***ing 1.00

00:05:09.940 out of here. You need to back up. No. You need to back up. No. I'm not here. I'm never going to be here. 0.98

00:05:16.060 All right. You need something. It's time to go. It's time to go. You need to leave. Outside now.

00:05:20.340 Thank you. Outside now. Outside now. Outside now. Outside. Go. Go. Go. Go. Go.

00:05:28.580 I know you're coming with me. Go. That is not a random person harassing that guy. Okay. This is an

00:05:34.160 employee. Works for the establishment. They were being perfectly reasonable. He's being

00:05:40.960 a lunatic. Okay. Now. I want to make a few points about masks. And if I'm lucky, I'll piss 1.00

00:05:48.740 off everybody on all sides of this infernal debate. We'll start with this. Number one. Masks

00:05:56.460 are not magical cloths that guarantee you safety from all harm. In fact, the science is not settled

00:06:03.800 at all on how effective the masks actually are. That's why the government originally told us

00:06:08.260 not to wear them. Scratch that. Didn't just tell us not to wear them, but aggressively scolded

00:06:12.860 and shamed anyone who did wear them. You may remember this tweet from the Surgeon General

00:06:17.660 in February. It said, seriously, people, stop buying masks, all caps. They are not effective

00:06:23.400 in preventing general public from catching coronavirus. But if healthcare providers don't

00:06:27.760 get them to care for sick patients, it puts them and our communities at risk.

00:06:33.800 So if the government has trouble getting people to buy into masks, they only have themselves

00:06:39.520 to blame. And a little bit of acknowledgement and accountability on that score would be nice.

00:06:45.520 After all, they were again, the ones going out and shaming people for wearing masks for months

00:06:50.480 until they changed their tune. Number two. Masks are also not a communist conspiracy to control

00:06:56.620 and oppress you. A federal mask mandate requiring people to wear masks all the time everywhere in

00:07:02.420 the country would be bad news. And I certainly and certainly unconstitutional. And I would oppose

00:07:06.600 it passionately. But in most cases, even aside from what the local ordinances say, retail outlets

00:07:12.760 and other stores have their own policies requiring masks. And a big reason they do that is to cover their

00:07:19.820 own butts against liability. Someone's going to get sued because a customer got coronavirus in their

00:07:24.660 store. Nobody wants to be the company that deals with that lawsuit. That's perfectly reasonable as

00:07:29.500 far as I can tell. And if I was in their shoes, I'd probably do the same thing. Walking into a store

00:07:34.740 that requires a request masks and making a point of not wearing them just makes you a jackass, not a 0.98

00:07:41.660 freedom fighter. These establishments have the right to set the rules. Respect that or go elsewhere. 0.69

00:07:48.300 Also, by the way, when you go charging into a store without a mask, all you're doing is causing

00:07:53.620 problems for the kid at the entrance who's supposed to be enforcing the rule or as was the case in the

00:07:58.720 video I just played for the young lady who has to enforce it. You're just getting him in trouble or 0.99

00:08:03.200 her in trouble and making their lives more difficult. That makes you a jerk, not a hero. I mean, who do you 1.00

00:08:08.060 think you're standing up against? You're standing up against, you know, an employee that gets paid $9 an

00:08:12.540 hour, just causing problems for them. Number three, you're not a hero for wearing a mask either. It's

00:08:19.320 not a sign of virtue. It doesn't make you a good person. People who don't wear masks aren't evil.

00:08:24.820 If they aren't wearing them in a store that requires them, they're being jerks to the store 0.97

00:08:28.160 employees, but they aren't demon spawns. I mean, the guy in the video kind of acted like one a little 0.97

00:08:33.340 bit, but most aren't. And they aren't any real threat to your health either. Just give them a wide

00:08:39.460 birth. If you're concerned, you'll be fine. If it's a situation where masks are not required,

00:08:44.960 as is the case in most of the establishments where I happen to live, then people will make 0.99

00:08:48.920 their own decisions and you should mind your own damn business. Personally, I don't wear a mask 0.99

00:08:53.560 unless it's required. That's my choice, my business. You make your own choice. And if you're petrified to

00:09:00.400 leave your home, unless every human everywhere is wearing a mask, then you suffer from paranoid delusions

00:09:05.840 and you should probably seek psychological care. Coronavirus is the least of your problems,

00:09:11.460 you insane person. Number four, wearing masks outside while you walk down the sidewalk is very 0.98

00:09:18.760 stupid and pointless and in a hundred degree heat, probably not sanitary with all the sweat and 0.99

00:09:23.960 everything that's gathering in there. You're not going to contract or spread the coronavirus while 1.00

00:09:27.900 walking past someone outside. The virus, according to the CDC and all research we've seen,

00:09:33.740 is mostly spread through close and prolonged contact with symptomatic people. That accounts

00:09:40.760 for the vast majority of infections. Your chance of getting it outside, walking down the road is

00:09:44.940 extremely, extremely, extremely small. But again, make your own choices. You know, it's up to you.

00:09:51.760 Number five. Actually, there is no five. Four is quite enough. My point is made. Those are all of my

00:09:59.000 opinions about masks. I have no more opinions. I don't know how many, how people have so many opinions

00:10:06.780 and so strongly about masks. This is one of those things, as I said at the top, where I wish we could

00:10:14.020 all just have just a little bit of common sense. That's all. Just, just apply a little bit of normal

00:10:20.440 common sense to the situation and, um, and I think we'll be, we'll be okay. All right, let's move on to

00:10:28.200 our five headlines. We're going to go through these headlines here. Remember, um, there's so much going

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00:11:12.520 where are we? Number one, a hologram effigy of George Floyd will be touring the Southern states

00:11:20.740 to be projected onto Confederate monuments in Georgia, North Carolina, uh, Virginia, other places.

00:11:28.040 Floyd's family members are behind this project and they unveiled it at a, at a ceremony in Richmond.

00:11:33.540 I think it was yesterday. And it was projected over a Jefferson Davis Memorial. The daily news,

00:11:39.820 the daily news describes the hologram this way. It says the hologram starts out with

00:11:43.260 fireflies that coalesce into a 3d image of Floyd with his name depicted in graffiti on either side

00:11:50.580 to reflect the murals that have sprung up worldwide. Now. Okay. I want you to imagine how traumatizing

00:12:00.060 this must be legitimately traumatizing for George Floyd's victims. And yes, he did have victims.

00:12:08.920 Um, just how, how would you feel? Think about how you would feel put yourself in the shoes of his

00:12:15.480 victims. Think about the woman who was robbed at gunpoint by Floyd after he forced his way into her

00:12:22.280 house, held a gun to her stomach in front of her child. How would she feel? How would you feel

00:12:29.920 if that happened to you? Uh, this, as, as, as I've been saying for a while now, you know, we, we have

00:12:46.280 gone, of course, way, way, way beyond just, uh, expressing outrage over an unjust death. This,

00:12:55.740 this is way into the realm of canonizing sanctifying hero worship of a man who was to put it really

00:13:05.200 mildly, not a hero at all. Um, but this is what we're doing. Let's go to number two.

00:13:14.340 Here's a, a fun story reading from the New York post. It says a suspected arsonist faces up to 20

00:13:19.760 years in jail for trying to torch Portland's justice center. And he was, and I hope he actually does all

00:13:25.100 20 years, which, which, but I think we know that's not going to happen. Uh, he was easily identified

00:13:29.220 thanks to a tattoo of his name on his back. According to prosecutors, Edward, Edward, uh,

00:13:34.280 Shinzing 32 is one of 30 who broke into the area that houses the city's police headquarters

00:13:39.380 under the cover of protests in late May. The mob attack led to the area later being secured with

00:13:44.520 heavy gates. Um, after smashing windows, the mob spray painted offices, broke computers,

00:13:50.680 and then started a series of fires in a jail records office, forcing staff to flee for safety.

00:13:56.160 Um, Shinzing was according to the police department identified by a comparison with a jail booking

00:14:00.940 photo and a distinctive tattoo of his last name across his back. Um, a booking photograph shows his

00:14:07.740 surname and large letters across his back seem seemingly matching those of a topless intruder

00:14:11.760 caught in security camera footage from the attack. Uh, yeah. And unfortunately for, for him,

00:14:19.340 his last name is Shinzing. Like at least if it was Smith or Johnson or something like that,

00:14:24.540 he could maybe claim that the guy in the footage is someone else, someone with his last name who

00:14:28.760 looks just like him and also has the same tattoo. It's not a very plausible denial, but at least it's

00:14:34.580 possible. Uh, it's more possible than claiming that there's more than one Shinzing in the area, 0.99

00:14:39.240 uh, up to mischief. I'll never understand of, of all the dumb tattoos people get. I will never 0.96

00:14:46.700 understand getting a tattoo of your own name. This is a somewhat common thing. And I, I just don't

00:14:52.800 get it. It's, it's pretty lazy for one thing. It seems as though you went to the tattoo parlor,

00:14:59.400 sat down, had no idea what you wanted, and then came up with this on the spot.

00:15:06.320 It's like the tattoo artist. So what do you want? Um, I don't know. I hadn't really thought about it.

00:15:11.960 I mean, my name, let's just go with that. But of course, that's not how tattoos work.

00:15:19.660 You know, maybe it works that way in like prison. I don't know. But in the, in the free world,

00:15:23.320 it's a slower and more considered process. And yet you settle on your own name. And though,

00:15:29.460 and then you go and commit crimes with your shirt off, exposing your name. Antifa. Antifa,

00:15:36.920 they are not sending their best. Uh, they really aren't. Or maybe this is their best,

00:15:40.840 which is a scary thought. Number three, the actress, uh, I think she's an actress. Tiffany

00:15:45.580 Haddish appeared on Carmela Anthony's Carmela Anthony's show yesterday. Carmela Anthony,

00:15:50.360 of course, the basketball player apparently has his own show. Uh, everybody does these days.

00:15:55.100 They even gave one to me. I mean, it's, it's pretty easy to get one. And during the discussion at one

00:15:59.680 point, she explained why she doesn't want to bring kids into this world. And speaking of being 1.00

00:16:05.460 paranoid, uh, listen to this. I'm not a fearful person. Right. But like, I have watched many of

00:16:11.960 my friends, not many, but I've more than two of my friends growing up be killed by police officers,

00:16:18.780 you know? And, and it makes you feel like, dang, you know, as a black person, we were being hunted.

00:16:26.180 And like, I felt like, and I've always felt like that we're hunted and we're slaughtered. 0.52

00:16:30.420 And it's like, they get this license to kill us and that's not okay. And you know, I'm, I'm older

00:16:36.920 now, I'm a little older and people always like, you don't have baby when you don't have some babies

00:16:40.900 when you don't drop some babies. And, and there's a part of me that would, would like to do that.

00:16:45.100 And I always make up these excuses like, Oh, I need a million dollars in the bank before I can

00:16:48.860 touch it. I need this. I need that. But really it's like, I would hate to give birth to someone that

00:16:56.260 looks like me. And then knowing that they're going to be hunted or killed, you know, like,

00:17:03.380 why would I put someone through that? Look, I know it doesn't matter at this point. Uh, nope,

00:17:07.940 nobody, nobody cares. We're way past the point when things like facts make a difference to anyone.

00:17:15.880 But for the record, this police are hunting people down thing is completely and totally untrue. Um,

00:17:23.180 not even a little true. There is literally zero truth to it. It never happens. So when someone

00:17:31.980 says police are hunting and killing black people, it's not just that they're exaggerating. It's that 0.99

00:17:37.860 they're inventing something that never happens. Certainly not in recent history, unless I mean,

00:17:46.000 prove me wrong. Give me an example. Give me an example. If you have one of police going out and

00:17:51.580 hunting and killing a black person. Um, now there are cases of people, of police killing people, 0.66

00:17:58.240 obviously in the vast majority of those cases, the people who are killed were in the process of

00:18:02.600 trying to kill officers. That's true. As, as we have gone over, even of the unarmed killings

00:18:07.580 in most of those cases, uh, the, the, the, the person was trying to kill officers either by using a,

00:18:14.580 uh, a weapon that doesn't count as a weapon in the official reports, like a vehicle,

00:18:19.040 or by trying to disarm them and take their weapon and use it against them, that sort of thing.

00:18:23.400 And in the very, very, very, very small minority of, of actual unjust killings,

00:18:29.260 none of them that I've ever heard of could be honestly described as police hunting and killing

00:18:36.900 someone. You want to say that George Floyd killing was unjust fine. If you say that, that the man was

00:18:44.240 hunted and killed, then you're just a dishonest, ridiculous hack. And I think, you know, that, 0.99

00:18:50.860 um, number four, the daily beast has a report now about the insane backlash, a music review

00:19:00.000 for the site pitchfork faced her name. The reviewer named, uh, is Jillian Mapes. Um,

00:19:06.220 and Mapes wrote a positive, but mildly critical review of Taylor Swift's new album folklore. I think it's

00:19:13.280 called, and because it wasn't positive enough, Swift's fans harassed her, actually doxxed her,

00:19:20.300 according to the daily beast, posted her address and her phone number, um, doxxed her because

00:19:26.640 she didn't like Taylor Swift's album enough. She liked it, but didn't like it enough.

00:19:32.520 You know, she gave it whatever, the B minus or something, whatever her grade was. And it wasn't

00:19:36.440 an A plus, you know, it's not good enough. This is why of all the lost souls of all the deranged

00:19:42.340 groups of people in America. And there are many of them. None are more lost or more deranged than

00:19:47.620 people who find their, their identity in their fandom. You know, whether they're fans of a pop

00:19:53.260 star or a movie like star Wars or a TV show or video games, whatever it is. Um, there's nothing

00:19:58.340 wrong with being a fan. Okay. I'm a fan, believe it or not. There are, there are things and people

00:20:02.080 that I like, if you can believe it, not many, but there are some, um, what I'm talking about is

00:20:06.620 finding your identity in your fandom. If that's like the most important thing to you in your life

00:20:12.900 for that to be basically the number one thing about you, the most prominent component of your life

00:20:19.140 is that you're a fan of this thing or this person. Uh, if you fall into that category,

00:20:25.360 then you are no offense, the most pathetic sort of person that it's possible to be. 0.98

00:20:30.840 The phrase get a life was invented for you specifically. Um, and here's how to know that 0.99

00:20:37.360 you're in that group. Okay. Maybe, maybe, maybe you're not sure if you're, if you're that far

00:20:40.720 into it. Um, here's how to know you're in that group or you're, you're, you're headed in that

00:20:44.500 direction. You're nearly in that group. If you get angry, actually truly angry when someone doesn't

00:20:50.740 like a form of entertainment that you like, you know, if you are incapable of having a discussion

00:20:55.940 with someone who is critical of your favorite thing or who doesn't like as much as you, if you

00:21:00.760 cannot engage with any critical discussion of this thing or person that you like, uh, because you

00:21:05.480 become blind with fury and start to feel real hatred towards that person, that's a good sign that you are

00:21:11.360 way, way too invested in this thing, whatever it is. And yes, that goes for sports teams too. I will

00:21:19.300 throw that in. Not going to leave that out. And I say that as someone who sometimes teeters close to

00:21:24.280 the edge of being a pathetic loser in this regard. I admit that I do take my fandom of the Baltimore 0.98

00:21:29.260 Ravens quite seriously, too seriously, in fact. And, um, and so yes, I am kind of a pathetic loser 0.99

00:21:36.120 there, but, but the saving grace is that it only lasts for four months out of the year. Uh, so for 0.79

00:21:40.940 four months of the year, I'm a pathetic dork when it comes to the, you know, my football fandom, but then 0.83

00:21:47.460 I revert back to being normal again for, for the rest of it. So it's only a third of the year. Okay. For me 0.92

00:21:52.320 being pathetic. It's not too bad. It's not great, but it's, it's not as bad as it could be. 0.99

00:21:58.800 But even as seriously as I take sports, you know, I still don't take it as seriously as some people

00:22:04.320 do. You know, I've seen a not unfamiliar site. People get into fistfights. I mean, many of us

00:22:11.000 have seen this. If you're at a stadium or a sports bar, I was at a sports bar a little while ago and

00:22:16.380 two dudes in different team jerseys got into a fight. Now, granted there was alcohol involved.

00:22:23.100 Okay. But, but even so, um, I've never been tempted to punch someone because they liked a

00:22:28.840 different team than me. Think about what that is. Okay. You're, you're trying to cause physical harm

00:22:33.780 to someone because they like to watch a different group of men play a game. Oh yeah. This group of men

00:22:42.660 are better at playing the game than, than your favorite group. No, they're not. No, this group

00:22:49.920 is even better. You bastard. I'll kill you. I mean, it's just, it's, it's not stable is all I'm saying. 1.00

00:22:55.960 It really doesn't stop and think about what you're doing every once in a while. Um, okay. Number five,

00:23:01.160 this is, this is good to report from the New York post. Um, says we read a little bit. It says there's

00:23:07.240 some real monkey business at a British safari park where a roving gang of baboons armed with knives 1.00

00:23:12.860 and even a chainsaw have been wreaking havoc and sowing fear. According to a report, the prowling

00:23:18.040 primates are known to have vandalized vehicles, uh, ripping off windshield wipers and mirrors from

00:23:23.320 them at the nose, nosely safari park. Uh, but the baboons now I'm just reading through here. 1.00

00:23:31.920 Oh, this is disappointing. I should have read this before. Now park officials are saying that

00:23:39.060 it's a, it's a myth. The park told the news outlet, we believe many of these stories have

00:23:44.580 grown in exaggeration as they've been retold with embellishment to make the objects that are

00:23:48.820 sometimes found in the enclosure, see more exciting and unbelievable. Oh, that's disappointing.

00:23:54.700 This is what I get for just going with the headline. Usually I try to do better than that.

00:23:58.540 Usually I try to, you know, I, I, I, I, I try not to be one of those people that just

00:24:02.480 sees a headline and I'm off to the races. But when the headline is chainsaw wielding baboons, 0.90

00:24:08.760 I'm going with the headline. Okay. Because, and this is exactly why then you read the details

00:24:13.200 and it's, it's depressing because it turns out maybe that's not actually the case.

00:24:17.880 I like the idea though. Okay. This is what I want to say. This is good because

00:24:22.340 I think we can all agree, right. That it's, it's probably time to wrap up this whole humanity deal.

00:24:28.540 Like I think we've all, it's, it's, we've, we've, we've all seen enough. We've really run our course

00:24:33.480 and milked it for what it's worth. And, uh, it's probably time to just, you know, get on with it,

00:24:38.380 get on with the apocalypse one way or another. So it's just a matter now of choosing the best

00:24:42.800 apocalypse. Okay. How do we want to finally self-destruct and a planet of the apes type

00:24:47.260 of thing could be a lot of fun. Now, if I had my pick of the, of the litter, I would still go with

00:24:51.260 the alien invasion. But if that's not going to happen, if my dreams are dashed, um, then I think,

00:24:57.220 yeah, arm the baboons, maybe do a little genetic manipulation type of thing like they do in the 1.00

00:25:01.580 movies and just let them go to work. Um, not a bad way for the human species to go out. I think you

00:25:08.540 have to admit. So those are our five headlines. Let's go to our daily cancellation today for our

00:25:13.800 daily cancellation. I'm going to be canceling preemptively all the false narratives current

00:25:17.880 and future, um, over the latest incident of a suspect dying while police attempt to restrain

00:25:23.460 him during an arrest. This is Lionel Morris. He died on February 4th at a grocery store

00:25:28.520 as police tried to place him under arrest. Uh, the media is running with the story. The usual

00:25:34.200 suspects are, uh, chiming in another George Floyd. They're saying the Washington post headline is

00:25:39.920 it's clearly meant to give a certain impression. Uh, their headline, if you can talk, you can breathe

00:25:44.820 Arkansas cops tell man who later dies in police custody. Okay. But all you need to do is read the

00:25:52.200 Washington post article, the actual article, not just the headline, speaking of actually reading

00:25:55.840 articles to see the truth. So let's, uh, let's, let's do that. Now let's, let's look at the,

00:26:02.480 this is like the second paragraph of the article. It says Morris had run from officers on February

00:26:06.900 4th and then placed one officer in a chokehold and tried to pull out a knife. According to police

00:26:11.320 after the supermarket had reported him for removing a drone from its packaging,

00:26:15.380 i.e. he was trying to steal it. Um, but as an officer had his knee on this 39 year old's

00:26:21.300 back inside Harp's food store, Morris handcuffed and lying face down repeatedly offered a succinct

00:26:26.480 and familiar plea. I can't breathe. There's, um, body cam footage and surveillance footage that has

00:26:33.760 been released and you can see it online. Prosecutors cleared the officers of any wrongdoing in the case.

00:26:38.560 And that's why it's, um, in the news now. And that's why the footage, uh, the footage was released.

00:26:45.160 The footage shows why there was no, there, there are no charges in this case. The body cam video

00:26:50.300 is 45 minutes long. I'm not going to play the whole thing, of course, but, but here's a, here's

00:26:54.680 how the arrest began. At least we'll play this and you'll see just the beginning of it and go on

00:26:58.100 YouTube to see the rest. But, uh, here's how the, the arrest started. Okay. Now put your hands on

00:27:04.820 me back with me back.

00:27:06.640 John so syndicatearg why say this is running back home? Sir, please?

00:27:10.060 Okay. Okay. Okay, put it back there.

00:27:27.940 Uh, Uh, Corey

00:27:34.820 now you can't see a lot of the details there but you can tell he's running obviously fighting

00:27:50.620 the officer ends up on his back and we're told morris tried to pull a knife put an officer in

00:27:56.140 a chokehold also here's here's a there's there's there's other information about the story that's

00:28:04.620 important this also is from the post but it's buried deeper down in the article it says the

00:28:09.460 medical examiner concluded that morris died of methamphetamine intoxication with a combination

00:28:13.440 of exertion struggle restraint and conducted electrical weapon deployment according to a

00:28:20.480 letter from prosecuting attorney carol cruz to explain his death in custody tapely pointed to

00:28:25.500 toxicology reports finding that morris had substances including methamphetamine morphine

00:28:29.680 amphetamine opioids opiates and cannabinoids in his system okay so a whole bunch of drugs to review

00:28:38.780 here morris died because he was trying to steal something cops were called they tried to arrest

00:28:46.200 him because theft is illegal fyi he ran assaulted officers tried to use a deadly weapon and all of

00:28:54.200 that commotion eventually killed him due in large part to the cocktail of illegal drugs that he had

00:28:58.400 put into his body who is to blame here is it the cops who tried to arrest a man who committed a crime

00:29:04.060 and then defended themselves against his violent attack or is it the man who took a bunch of drugs

00:29:08.480 tried to steal something then attacked the officers who came to arrest him who should we blame it's a tough

00:29:15.660 call isn't it actually no it's not it's not a tough call at all um this this is pretty straightforward

00:29:22.380 and amid all this talk about accountability holding police accountable how about some very basic

00:29:29.040 accountability for people like lionel morris you know why in all of these cases that part of it is

00:29:37.200 always left out what what could the cops have done differently okay what could lionel morris have done

00:29:44.020 differently i can think of dozens of things he could have done differently um certainly several

00:29:51.580 big ones like don't steal uh if you do steal and the cops come okay they have every right to arrest

00:29:58.100 you you are trying to commit a crime we live in a civilized society we have laws if you break them

00:30:02.620 you get arrested so don't run if you do try to make a run for it which seems like a really bad idea

00:30:07.980 because uh you're you're you know first of all the woman that you're with is is is is not running so

00:30:13.920 they've got her they're gonna find you you're on surveillance footage you're not gonna you're not gonna get

00:30:17.880 away so running makes no sense at all there's no reason to do it uh but it so don't do that even

00:30:25.720 if you do do that don't then assault the police officer when they finally catch up to you

00:30:31.000 um and even if you do all of those things don't take a bunch of potentially lethal drugs ahead of time

00:30:39.760 that could uh you know result in your death i mean you know that's that's a list of what four or five

00:30:46.620 things that lionel morris could have done differently and if he had made a different choice

00:30:52.960 on any one of those things okay just just if you had take any one of those points

00:30:58.400 if you had made a different choice he'd be alive today

00:31:02.520 and it's it's not a high bar either right like don't take a bunch of drugs try to steal something

00:31:10.620 and then assault the officers who come to arrest you that is not a high bar to get over it's not

00:31:16.760 like we're expecting something unreasonable of lionel morris in this case he made a whole series of

00:31:26.020 really really bad choices and then he died it's very sad as you know it's it's always sad when

00:31:33.000 someone dies it's always sad especially when someone chooses to throw their own life away

00:31:37.360 for no reason you know any death is sad but a death because because you wanted to buy yourself a

00:31:46.100 a few minutes of not being in custody after you tried to steal a drone from a grocery store it's

00:31:50.760 like you're gonna throw your life away over that it's it's it's a really sad thing

00:31:55.700 but it's not a moral outrage uh there's no injustice here so we we know what

00:32:05.420 lionel morris could have done differently very obvious if you want to start picking apart the

00:32:13.020 police officers and monday morning quarterbacking it uh what what could they have done differently

00:32:19.560 let's go through the chain of events on the part of the officers

00:32:24.140 they get a call that someone's trying to steal at a store they respond to the call we all agree 0.64

00:32:31.840 they should do that right they're not going to ignore it um they show up to the scene

00:32:36.420 they investigate the situation okay we all agree they should do that right they're going to go up to

00:32:42.000 lionel morris and the woman that he's with they're going to ask some questions uh they find that he that

00:32:47.040 he's removed a drone from the packaging and left it you know on a shelf and has put the drone

00:32:51.900 somewhere pretty good evidence that he's trying to steal it you don't do that if you're planning to

00:32:57.080 pay for it um so now they know or it's it seems very clear that he's that he was trying to commit

00:33:02.560 a crime uh so they're going to arrest him is is that a problem i mean he was trying to commit a crime

00:33:08.940 again we do live in a civilized society with laws i know the left would prefer if we didn't but we do

00:33:13.020 and it's their job to enforce them so they try to arrest him so far they've done nothing wrong

00:33:17.800 okay now let's compare the chain of events we've got you know parallel actions and choices of the

00:33:24.400 officers and lionel morris it's parallel until they intersect these parallel choices so far the

00:33:31.260 officers have done nothing wrong lionel morris already has made a series of really bad choices

00:33:35.800 taking a bunch of drugs trying to steal something and now there's the intersection they try to make

00:33:40.800 the arrest he runs what do they do here do you expect them to say oh never mind oh he's he's

00:33:46.760 running guys forget it forget it forget it let's go of course they're going to chase him they have to

00:33:51.240 he's they're trying to arrest him he ran away because the only other option there is to say

00:33:55.640 well uh if you get arrested and you run then you're you're home free you well we might as well

00:34:01.900 not have police at that point so they try to chase him down uh can't blame him for that

00:34:07.000 once they get him now he's someone who's resisting you know this is this is a big this is a man this is

00:34:14.680 a you know a younger you know this is not like a young child that they're trying to apprehend here

00:34:20.480 this is a grown man that they're trying to apprehend he obviously is resisting so they have to use force

00:34:25.600 to bring him down now he's putting them in chokeholds he's trying to grab for a weapon he is now a

00:34:31.040 lethal threat to them and so they don't pull out a gun and shoot him they try to use a taser they use

00:34:37.400 less lethal means um and and finally they get him down and they're just they're holding him on the

00:34:44.440 ground while they try to cuff him but what amid all that chaos we've already established that leading

00:34:52.860 up to the chaos the officers did everything right i mean there's nothing what else could they have done

00:34:57.680 while lionel morris was doing everything wrong but even amid all the cases what else do you want

00:35:02.440 them to do they they're trying to it's it's a difficult thing if you've never tried to do it

00:35:07.300 i've never done it but i i'll put it this way i'll take the police word for it that when you're trying

00:35:12.940 to cuff a grown man who doesn't want to be cuffed that's a difficult thing it's not it's not it's not

00:35:17.100 easily done and it requires some force that seems logical to me i can i'll buy that i can believe that

00:35:22.800 and so yes they've they've gotten down the ground they've got a they're not on his neck

00:35:27.360 they've got a knee on the back how else are they going to affect the arrest what else do you want

00:35:33.000 them to do and then he dies because largely he was he was on a cocktail of drugs if he wasn't on

00:35:43.240 those drugs he'd be alive um so it just seems pretty obvious to me who is uh who's responsible

00:35:50.840 here and it may be at a certain point we could start just holding people accountable not just

00:35:58.820 police officers other people too accountable for their own actions a really basic bar that we could

00:36:05.000 say to people you know you really got to get over that bar um that society expects that of you

00:36:10.060 i think that should be our our message as well so that false narrative is canceled a lot of

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The Matt Walsh Show - July 30, 2020

Ep. 532 - The Mask Wars Are Incredibly Stupid

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