Ep. 535 - George Floyd Bodycam Footage Is Out. We Weren't Told The Full Truth.
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Summary
Two months after footage of George Floyd s death went viral, sparking an epidemic of rioting and violence that killed dozens across the country, body cam footage of the incident has finally been made public. It was leaked to the Daily Mail, and then they published it. It lends crucial context to the fatal encounter between Floyd and Officer Derek Chauvin. It also gives insight into the states of both men.
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Today on The Matt Walsh Show, after two months of being kept from the public, the body cam footage showing the minutes leading up to George Floyd's death has been released.
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Let's just say that the issue is far more complicated than what the media led us to believe.
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Also, five headlines, including a white ESPN host openly gloating over the injury of a black NBA player who stood for the national anthem.
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Two months after footage of George Floyd's death went viral, sparking an epidemic of rioting
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and violence that killed dozens of people and caused untold damage to countless communities
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across the country, body cam footage of the incident has finally been made public.
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It was leaked to the outlet, and then they published it.
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The additional video, it lends crucial context to the fatal encounter between Floyd and Officer
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It also gives insight, importantly, into the states of mind of both men.
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That's one of the main things you take away from this.
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Now, given that this tragic episode and the reaction to it has been the most significant
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story in the country for two months and one of the most significant of the past decade,
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you might think, if you didn't know any better, that the media would treat the new evidence,
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The news media, for the most part, has had a noticeably muted reaction to the footage.
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Perhaps that's because the story the new footage tells is, at the very least, far more complicated
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than the one the media and activists have been screaming into our ears since May.
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That story, with which we are all extremely familiar, of course, is that George Floyd was
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a compliant, peaceful man who was strangled to death, they said, by a racist, anti-black,
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And the only opinion one can really have about it is the kind of opinion that is easily expressed
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Now, of course, we've known from the beginning that some of this was, to put it gently,
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However Floyd was or wasn't acting on the day of his death, it strains credulity to use
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a word like peaceful to describe a man who once forced his way into a woman's home and robbed
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That's a very difficult thing to call peaceful.
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As for the racism claim, well, there was perhaps no evidence to disprove it, but neither was
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It's merely assumed that any white police officer who kills a black suspect, no matter
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the circumstances, is motivated at some level by racism.
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Now, some of these killings may be motivated by racism.
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I don't know, but the burden of proof is on those who make the claim.
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Yet those who make the claim rarely acknowledge that there is any burden of proof to meet,
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Also, anyone following the story has known for some time that, in addition to everything
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else, according to the medical examiner's report, Floyd was not strangled to death and
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did not die from asphyxiation as the media had so confidently declared in the immediate
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aftermath, it was found that Floyd, who had pre-existing heart conditions, three illicit
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drugs in his system, including fentanyl, which is 50 times more potent than morphine and known
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to cause respiratory distress, it was found that he died of cardiopulmonary arrest, complicating
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law enforcement, subdual restraint, and neck compression.
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A medical examination performed by an examiner hired by Floyd's family contradicted those findings,
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claiming that he was, in fact, he did, in fact, die of asphyxiation.
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So that was the status of things prior to this week's developments.
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We had an out-of-context video, a bunch of assumptions, and not much more.
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And those assumptions were considered reason enough to burn our cities.
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Now, the new footage doesn't necessarily clarify everything.
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It adds complications and nuances to an issue that was once assumed to be utterly and completely
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The body cameras worn by officers Alex Kang and Thomas Lane, the first two cops on the
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They show that Floyd is agitated and uncooperative from the first moment that officers arrive in
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response to a call from a business owner who accused Floyd of trying to pass off counterfeit
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Floyd is in his car when law enforcement first shows up.
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One of the officers draws his weapon because Floyd is initially hesitant to show his hands.
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Once Floyd places his hands on his head in full view of the officers, the gun is holstered.
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After much coaxing, he's eventually removed from his car, taken to the police cruiser.
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Now, Floyd appears to have trouble walking on his way over to the police car, and they
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ask him several times if he's on something, and he was.
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He shouts, ow, and seems to be in pain, even though he's only being grabbed by his arm.
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He's quite, he's doing a lot of screaming and acting as though he's in pain.
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Once at the vehicle, he repeatedly refuses to get inside, saying that he's claustrophobic,
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though he'd just been sitting in his own car without any apparent difficulty.
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On the contrary, he was extremely reluctant to get out of his own vehicle, only to then
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claim he's too claustrophobic to get back inside one.
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At one point, as officers try to convince him to get in the car, Floyd actually says
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He also says several times that he's going to die, that he can't breathe.
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And he ends up there on the ground because he either falls or pushes himself out of the
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other side of the police cruiser as officers struggle to get him inside the vehicle.
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From that point, the scene unfolds, as we all saw on the initial video two months ago.
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Now, you can go online and watch the full body cam footage.
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I would recommend doing that so you get the whole context.
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Obviously, I can't play all of that footage here.
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But I will play a clip of the interaction between Floyd and the officers at the police cruiser,
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because I think this is perhaps the most relevant portion.
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Step out of the vehicle and step away from me, all right?
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Now, as previously stated, none of this conclusively exonerates the officers of any and all wrongdoing,
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but it does establish a few facts that might mitigate their culpability.
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Number one, to review the facts, George Floyd was uncooperative, clearly intoxicated, and resisting arrest.
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Number two, the officers were remarkably calm and reasonable for most of the interaction.
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Number three, George Floyd claimed that he couldn't breathe and was going to die well before he had a knee on his neck.
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Number four, the officers never did or said a single thing that any reasonable person could possibly construe as racist.
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Now, all those points are important, but let's focus on point three for a moment here.
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Floyd said that he was too claustrophobic to get in the police car and that he might die and couldn't breathe,
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He was screaming that he was in pain, even though officers at that point weren't doing anything that could have caused him any physical harm.
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We should also note that he said at one point that his mom had just died, even though she'd been dead for over two years.
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Now, the officers would not have known that, you know, when his mom died, obviously, but presumably.
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But the point is that cops, they hear nonsense like this from suspects all day, every day.
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This can create a kind of boy who cried wolf situation where it's harder to tell when a suspect is actually in distress.
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If he's claiming he's in distress the entire time, even when he's not, then how do you know when he really is?
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When Floyd was on the ground saying he was going to die,
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it was no different from what he was saying while he was standing or what he was saying when he was in the car.
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These facts may not be exculpatory, but they certainly are relevant.
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The narrative, as it was originally presented, does not take into account any of these details.
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It demands that we see the event as nothing more or less than a wanton act of random cruelty
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with nothing precipitating it, no context, and with not even an ounce of blame or responsibility to be shared by Floyd himself.
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Now, in reality, Floyd may still be the victim of some degree of negligence,
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but it seems that the murder charge will be difficult to prove.
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The truth just isn't that simple, and it rarely is.
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And that's a lesson we would all do well to remember for the future,
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especially where these police videos are concerned.
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One final point I want to make here, because I can't move on without pointing this out.
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As I said, the media has not been anxious to talk about the body cam footage.
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But the interesting thing is that CNN did report rather extensively on this body cam footage
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It was being held from release at that point by the courts, but they let the media watch it.
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And that enabled CNN to describe it in their own words without anyone contradicting them.
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The video offers basically context and clues that aren't included in the transcript,
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mainly the emotion of it and the speed with which this happens.
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Remember, these officers responded to a call over a fake bill being used.
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Within 36 seconds of them speaking to the store owner, that last words with the store owner,
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they now had a gun pointed in George Floyd's face saying,
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let me see your effing hands after initially knocking on the window with a flashlight.
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And then throughout that interaction, George Floyd is sobbing throughout as he is pleading with officers,
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asking what he did, eventually calming down to the point where he seems to be complying and a struggle ensues.
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Then it's minutes after that, another struggle trying to get him into a police car.
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And this is part of why viewing the video as opposed to just a transcript is so important.
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The last words listed in at least a transcript for former officer Thomas Lane lists those words as pleas.
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But then as you watch the actual video, you actually see a little bit later, there's another please.
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This is actually a very important lesson in media bias, what you just saw there.
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And it's the true reality of fake news that we should all understand.
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You heard the CNN reporter describing the body cam footage weeks before anyone in the public had seen it.
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The effect is, yeah, it was misleading and intentionally so.
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But nothing he said was in itself factually inaccurate.
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And there are points in the video when he seems to be complying.
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Of course, he's not really complying at any point at all, but he's resisting the whole time.
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But he does seem to be complying in individual spots in the video.
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And when you describe it like that, like the reporter does here, it sounds pretty damning for the police.
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When you watch it, on the other hand, it feels very different and looks very different.
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And this is where the fake news almost always comes in.
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They leave out that he says he's going to die and that he can't breathe before he was on the ground.
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They leave out that the officers themselves were patient and reasonable.
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They leave out that Floyd had a mysterious bout of claustrophobia right when they tried to get him in the car.
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They leave out that he said that he wanted to lay on the ground.
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They leave out nearly every detail that I already mentioned.
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So they issued a report that was dishonest, misleading, grotesque, reckless, defamatory, and yet technically accurate.
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It's far more insidious than we tend to think in the way that we portray it.
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We act like they're out there fabricating outlandish stories all the time.
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And there has been a little bit of that, but mostly not.
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What they do is they take real stories and they whittle them down into the shape and form, getting rid of the details they don't like, whittling them down into the shape and form that they prefer.
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And there's video of this from different angles all over social media right now.
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Yeah, from what I'm being told, or not what I'm being told, like I have special sources.
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From what I've read, they're right now trying to blame that on a fireworks factory explosion or something.
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I confess I'm a little skeptical that it would look like that.
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But also, I'm not going to really speculate because I have no idea whatsoever.
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But there is the story that everyone will be, of course, following.
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Donald Trump, for some reason, did an interview with Axios.
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And some clips of that interview have been circling, circulating.
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John Lewis is lying in state in the U.S. Capitol.
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How do you think history will remember John Lewis?
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He didn't come to my State of the Union speeches.
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But taking your relationship with him out of it,
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There's a petition to rename the Edmund Pettus Bridge
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I would have no objection to it if they'd like to do it.
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And that actually is not at all the worst bit of the interview,
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Just some unsolicited advice that won't be heeded and won't matter,
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so I'm just offering it up to the universe, okay?
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I'm shouting it out into the ether for no reason.
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Either stop doing media, stop doing interviews, the Biden approach,
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or do them but come in prepared with a plan and be on the ball,
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I think either of those approaches will be fine.
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constantly bringing everything back to your own personal gripes,
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to approach this particular facet of campaigning.
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And anyone like me who really doesn't want Democrats to win in 2020
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Because it is, I think, in part because of all the yes-men around Donald Trump
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and of all of his fans who just will never criticize him,
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that he can just wander, waltz his way into an interview
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with a talented interviewer, which this guy was,
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and just wing it and say, yeah, bring it, you know,
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And also, by the way, you know, I've read some I've seen some reactions
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trying to pretend this was like an unfair interview
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I mean, I'm quite certain that this reporter hates Donald Trump's guts.
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The questions he asked were actually perfectly fair and reasonable.
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If a question like, you know, what do you think of John Lewis?
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then, again, you're too incompetent to be doing interviews at all.
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And then when they come back with, oh, but you guys were at odds.
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But that doesn't change the fact that he was a heroic man
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And the thing is, before you try to say, well, Trump didn't want to pander.
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He's not he's going to shoot from the hip and he's not pandering.
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But it's just before he got there, he stammered around for a minute and a half
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and kept saying over and over again, like a like a sixth grader with his feelings hurt.
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Just cut that crap out and get right to the answer.
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Jonathan Isaac of the Orlando Magic was the first player to stand for the anthem before a game.
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And and, you know, this is literally taking a heroic stand here.
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He's the first guy in the entire NBA to include coaches and everybody actually standing to show
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And then Isaac shortly after blew out his ACL and is, of course, done for the for the year.
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The left wonderful people that they are have been gloating about this, including an ESPN host,
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Dan Levitard, who posted a poll online asking whether the injury was funny.
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And now Levitard is has apologized and claimed that he wasn't claiming it was funny.
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He was just asking whether other people think it was funny.
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So Levitard, to be clear, is white and Isaac is black.
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So this is a white man laughing over a black man's injury because the black man doesn't agree with his
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politics. That's what's happening there. But the thing I really wanted to home in on here is is the
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line of questioning that Isaac endured after the first game where he stood for the anthem and didn't
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wear the Black Lives Matter T-shirt. Listen to this. This is this is this is a question he was asked
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at a postgame press conference. So you didn't kneel during the anthem, but you also didn't wear a Black
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Lives Matter shirt. Do you believe that Black Lives Matter?
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Absolutely. I believe that Black Lives Matter. A lot went into my decision. And part of it is,
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first off, is my thought that, you know, kneeling or wearing a Black Lives Matter T-shirt don't go hand in
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hand with supporting Black Lives. And so I felt like just me personally, what it is that I believe
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in standing on a stance that I do believe that Black Lives Matter, but I just felt like it was a
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decision that I had to make. And I didn't feel like putting putting a shirt on and kneeling one hand in
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hand with supporting Black Lives or that it made me support Black Lives or not. I believe that for myself,
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my life has been supported through the gospel of Jesus Christ and that everyone is made in the
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image of God and that we all for sure of God's glory. Do you believe that Black Lives Matter?
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That was the act. This is a Black man you're talking to. That would be a dumb enough question
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if it was a white. It would be exceedingly dumb to ask a white athlete that if he stood for the
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national anthem. Oh, does standing for the national anthem mean that you hate Black people and think
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their lives don't matter? Exceedingly dumb to ask a white person. You're asking a Black guy.
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So you're asking him, so are you standing for the national anthem because you think your own life
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doesn't matter? What? Talk about a non-sequitur. Are you really asking me that, you moron? I mean,
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this will be my response. Of course, this player is much nicer and more gracious than me, Jonathan Isaac,
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so he answers the question without indicating how incredibly stupid it is. Good for him there.
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Very patient man. But just think, they actually asked a Black man whether he thinks Black Lives Matter.
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All right, number four. Here's Governor Cuomo lobbing a rather large, significant accusation at
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Donald Trump. This was a colossal blunder, how COVID was handled by this federal government.
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Colossal blunder. Shame on all of you. Six months. Lives lost. Hit the reset button. Yes.
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But the way the medical experts are talking about it, it won't work.
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It won't work unless you hit the reset button and you start with the truth.
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Because if the American people are continued lying to, the confusion and the chaos and the denial
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will continue. Hit the reset button. It's called the truth. It's called the plain truth.
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If the president actually tells them the truth and says, I made a mistake,
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he's not going to be telling them anything they don't know.
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Every American knows this was the worst government blunder in modern history.
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Worst governmental blunder in modern history. Now, you know where I'm going with this. I don't even
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think I need to say it. But this is the guy who made the decision to force nursing homes to take
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in COVID patients, directly resulting, and along with other Democrat governors, directly resulting,
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directly causing the deaths of thousands of elderly people. Forced them to take them in,
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thousands of elderly people die. And he's accusing Donald Trump of the worst blunder in modern
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history. All of the blunders that he's accusing Donald Trump of are things that Trump said.
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And granted, some of that stuff was very stupid. Like when he said that 15 people have COVID and
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it's going to go away after this and it's going to magically disappear. He said that a few times,
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very stupid thing to say. Those are words though. Okay. This is policy. The blunder that
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Cuomo made was a policy that killed thousands of people. So I think Cuomo's being a little modest
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here. He's being a little too humble and he's trying to say to Trump, oh no, Trump can have
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the top spot for worst blunder. Not me. I'll give it to Trump. No, no, no. No, Cuomo. I find your
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humility admirable, but I think actually you get to take that top spot for worst governmental blunder
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in modern history. Number five. Finally, it's maybe a stretch to put this in the headline
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section, but I'm not sure where else to put it. So here we are. A tweet from the WNBA account on
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Twitter. It says, have you been keeping up with the 2020 season? Test your knowledge every Monday
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to see if you're the biggest WNBA fan. There's a link to the trivia. I thought it could be fun if
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we actually went ahead and tried to take this quiz together. I just thought, you know, to test our
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WNBA knowledge because I figured that WNBA trivia is the hardest test you could ever take.
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Getting all this right would be like the moment in Good Will Hunting where Matt Damon solves the
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math equation nobody else could get. It seems almost impossible. There's probably two or three people
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on earth who could ace a WNBA trivia quiz. And so we're going to try and see how this goes.
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All right. Let's see. Follow along. Last weekend, I don't know how many questions there are. Hopefully
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it's not that many because this bit will really get old after about two minutes. Last weekend,
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Chennedy Carter, maybe it's Kennedy, C-H-E-N-N-N-N-N-E-D-Y. Chennedy? Kennedy?
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It better not be pronounced Kennedy. You name your kid Kennedy and spell it with a C-H? I don't know.
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I don't know how it's pronounced. I mean, I'm a big fan. Don't get me wrong. I've been following
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Chennedy Carter for years. Made her rookie debut for, oh, well, she's a rookie. So I didn't,
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I guess I've been following her for weeks. It feels like I've known her forever. Last weekend,
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Chennedy Carter made her rookie debut for which team? Chicago Sky, Washington Mystics,
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Atlanta Dream, Dallas Wings, Connecticut Sun. Why do all the team names sound like Crayola colors?
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Chicago Sky, Atlanta Dream, Connecticut Sun. Okay. I'm going to say Chicago Sky.
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Nope. She was selected by the Atlanta Dream. All right. Which team finished the first week of the
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season with a three-in-one record? All of the above, Minnesota Lynx, Seattle Storm, Washington Mystics,
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or Chicago Sky. First of all, the all of the above option is at the top. There's nothing above it.
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All of the above goes at the bottom. It's like the WBA, they can't even do a trivia quiz right.
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No offense. But usually when you're doing a quiz and there's an all of the above,
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I say from experience as a student who took many quizzes without ever really knowing the answers to
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anything because I never studied or did my homework, usually when there's an all of the above option
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and there isn't one in every question, you go with all of the above. So I'll say all of the above.
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Correct. Okay. That's one. Which rookie dropped 33 points in her second game?
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Satow Sabali, Sabrina Ianskew, Lauren Cox, Bella Allery, Chennedy Carter.
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Big fans of all these women. Great, great players. But I'm going to say Lauren Cox. If any of these
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players, you know, when you follow her career, even go back to high school and you follow, you know,
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considering the position she plays on the court of point guard, I just think that Lauren Cox is,
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oh, no, it's not. It's Sabrina Ianskew scored 33 points. Well, good for her. Okay. Which player is
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leading the league in points per game after week one? Ariel Atkins, Aja Wilson, Bria Hartley, Kelsey
00:33:25.960
Mitchell, Dawana Bonner. I got to say that I know for a fact it is Ariel Atkins. She is a scoring
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machine. She can even jump up and touch the net. Pretty impressive. And nope, it was Dawana Bonner
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currently leads the league. All right. So I got one out of four. That's the end of the quiz. One
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out of four. This, this puts me easily in the top 5% of all WNBA fans. But I could get one out of four
00:33:59.840
right. So I got to, I got to give myself a lot of credit for that. That was a lot of fun. Hopefully
00:34:04.700
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speak Ryan Cooper. He's a correspondent for the publication of the week. And he was reacting to
00:35:14.720
an article in the wall street journal, an article that, uh, complains that pickup trucks are too big
00:35:19.800
these days because someone decided to write an entire article around the kind of banal observation
00:35:26.380
you make when you've been in a car for seven hours with somebody and there's nothing left to talk
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about. So you're just driving along and you turn to them and say, well, these pickup trucks are really
00:35:35.040
big. You notice that really big these days. Yeah. Yeah, they are. Yeah. But they're really big.
00:35:45.600
In fact, all kinds of cars are big these days. Yeah. Uh, riveting conversation as always in the cars,
00:35:52.940
but Ryan's observation though, is not quite that banal. In fact, it's actually pretty fascinating.
00:35:58.940
This is what he says. Sales of mega pickups, which have basically been deliberately designed
00:36:04.460
to intimidate and kill pedestrians are booming. It's one thing to say that they're too big. It's
00:36:10.260
another thing to say they're deliberately designed to kill pedestrians. Now, uh, well, no, no, sorry.
00:36:18.980
He didn't say deliberately. He said basically deliberately designed. And can I just say for
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the record as we're doing this, in fact, I'm going to cancel the word basically too, because
00:36:27.880
the word basically is not as it is so often used in escape hatch, allowing you to make wildly
00:36:34.560
inaccurate claims. Okay. People throw the word basically into a sentence thinking that they can
00:36:40.000
then veer off into fantasy land. And basically is this magical incantation that makes their fantasy
00:36:45.440
into a reality. So this happens all the time, especially in arguments. I mean, we've all,
00:36:49.860
it's very common these days where you say something like, um, well, I think that we,
00:36:53.780
we, we spend too much on entitlements, uh, entitlement programs in this country. And the person responds,
00:36:58.840
Oh, Oh, so you're basically saying that we should round up all the poor people and throw them into the
00:37:03.580
sea. Isn't it? That's, that's, that's basically what you're saying. No, that's not what I'm basically
00:37:08.560
saying at all. In fact, that's, uh, what I'm basically saying is what I said, because it's a pretty basic
00:37:13.900
concept. So I said what I said, and that's really all that I said. As for the claim that Ryan is
00:37:19.560
making here, I hope I don't have to spend too much time debunking it. Um, you know, uh, I, I, I don't
00:37:26.920
know if I need to present like sources and evidence to, to debunk the claim that pickup trucks are
00:37:31.820
designed with the intention of killing pedestrians. Um, I guess he imagines a scenario where people go to
00:37:38.780
the dealership, like the Ford dealership and say, yeah, I'm looking for a pickup truck with a good
00:37:44.800
towing capacity, a long bed. Um, oh, and the ability to pulverize five old ladies at a time
00:37:51.200
while they're crossing the street. You have anything for that? Oh, right this way, sir. Yeah, we have,
00:37:54.240
we have a section just for that right over here. Um, that's what he imagines. Let me put his mind to
00:38:02.620
rest. Ryan, don't worry. Um, I myself have, have lived in many small towns and rural type areas.
00:38:11.800
I've been around quite a lot of pickup trucks. I don't drive one myself. As I said before,
00:38:17.100
I drive a suburban cause I have four kids as well. Um, and, but I've been around them quite a bit and
00:38:24.800
I can tell you that they are not designed to kill you. So you can calm down city boy. You, uh,
00:38:30.080
no one's going to run you over while you're sitting at your cafe, eating French pancakes or
00:38:34.940
whatever the hell you're doing. Pickup trucks are not designed for that. They're designed very simply
00:38:42.420
to carry machine guns, really big machine guns. And that's how pickup drivers kill pedestrians with
00:38:51.520
machine guns. Okay. And it's, it's, it's a much quicker death, you know, less, less painful.
00:38:58.360
So just stop being so paranoid and stop complaining also. All right. And you're canceled.
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Um, there we go. Hopefully, hopefully I thought we could, we could end on a positive note there.
00:39:13.460
Just a word of encouragement for our friend, uh, Ryan. All right. We'll leave it there.
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