The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 552 - The Media Narrative In The Jacob Blake Shooting Begins To Crumble

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, the media narrative in the Jacob Blake shooting is falling apart.

00:00:04.160 As the truth emerges, the story we were originally told appears wrong or misleading on a number of

00:00:09.840 key points. And we'll talk about that today, but it doesn't matter to the rioters who consider

00:00:13.400 truth to be in irrelevant detail to them. And same for the media. Also, five headlines,

00:00:18.340 including the nun at the RNC convention last night sent in to do battle against the DNC's

00:00:23.840 fake nun, spiritual battle. And there was a clear victor, I think. And in our daily cancellation,

00:00:27.900 I will cancel the New York Times for an article that asks us to feel sorry for men who get caught

00:00:34.000 by police while trying to have sex with children. Yes, really. All of that coming up and much more.

00:00:39.480 Packed show today, a lot to cover. We will begin here. Only hours after the shooting of Jacob Blake

00:00:45.380 by Kenosha police, the narrative had already solidified. That's all it takes these days.

00:00:49.480 Sometimes not even hours. A narrative can take shape in mere minutes. But in this case,

00:00:54.180 in spite of the fact that all we had to go on was a short video of police shooting a man while he

00:01:00.060 leaned inside his car, the media had rendered its verdict. Jacob Blake was an unarmed victim,

00:01:05.460 gunned down by police after he stopped to innocently break up a fight between two other people.

00:01:11.340 Well, there were questions, though. Was he unarmed? Was he breaking up a fight? Why was he reaching into

00:01:17.580 the car? What exactly happened between Blake and the police right before the shooting? And why were the

00:01:23.680 police there in the first place? These were open questions. And now the answers to those questions

00:01:28.920 are finally coming to light. And, you know, it should not surprise us that the answers don't

00:01:35.000 line up with the narrative, as they so rarely do these days. So let's go through what we know.

00:01:40.740 First of all, according to Wisconsin media outlet Madison 365, which obtained audio from the police

00:01:45.760 scanner on the night of the shooting, Blake's girlfriend had called 911 to report that Blake was

00:01:51.260 at her home and was not supposed to be there and had taken her keys and wouldn't give them back.

00:01:56.740 Police responding to the scene were informed that Blake had an open warrant for his arrest. It had

00:02:01.060 been previously reported rather quietly by the media that Blake was wanted for sexual assault,

00:02:05.340 trespassing and and domestic abuse as well. Now, this fact alone doesn't directly vindicate the

00:02:12.660 officers, but the scanner audio is significant for a few reasons. First of all, it shows that the

00:02:19.280 eyewitnesses who claimed that Blake was breaking up a fight were wrong. Those eyewitnesses were

00:02:25.560 apparently lying. Or if we want to be generous and see the best in people, assume the best,

00:02:30.100 we'll say they were mistaken. The police were summoned to the scene because of apparently Blake's

00:02:35.680 own actions. Of course, it shouldn't be a revelation that eyewitness reports are often unreliable,

00:02:40.600 especially where high profile police shootings are concerned. We should always keep in mind that the

00:02:44.160 Black Lives Matter organization rose to prominence on the back of false eyewitness reports in Ferguson

00:02:49.580 about Michael Brown putting up his hands and yelling, hands up, don't shoot. If it wasn't for

00:02:55.100 that original false report and false narrative, who knows where we'd be today? Would we have all of

00:02:59.820 this chaos in writing? I don't know. Unfortunately, there's even more reason, though, these days to doubt

00:03:04.800 eyewitness reports as these shootings are not happening in a vacuum. Witnesses on the scene know

00:03:10.820 what sorts of things they should say in order to frame the narrative in an unfavorable light for

00:03:15.920 police. We don't know if the apparent false information in this case was intentional or not.

00:03:22.120 But the temptation to give false information in this intensely anti-police environment must be very

00:03:28.840 strong. This is only added on top of the well-established fact that eyewitness reports in general are

00:03:35.200 incredibly inaccurate. And that's something that we've known for a long time. Also, the fact that

00:03:42.540 Blake had apparently taken someone's keys raises more critical questions about what he was doing

00:03:49.020 when he walked to the car where his kids were reportedly sitting and opened the door with police

00:03:53.540 guns trained on him. Was he reaching for something? Was it even his car? Did he intend to drive away?

00:04:00.020 Now it seems there could have been potentially more than one reason why police would want to open fire

00:04:05.640 or would have a reason to open fire. If he was going for a weapon of some kind, that would be clear

00:04:09.860 justification for an equal response from police. If he, as a wanted sexual and domestic abuser, was

00:04:15.240 about to flee the scene with a van full of kids, possibly involving the children in a dangerous high-speed

00:04:20.560 chase, that could be another reason for police to stop him by whatever means necessary. Or if the police had

00:04:25.760 reason to suspect, good reason to suspect either of those possibilities, and that could be a reason

00:04:31.380 for them too. And then the other shoe dropped later on, yeah, later yesterday. The Wisconsin DOJ

00:04:36.080 finally released some information that filled in most of the rest of the puzzle. We're told that when

00:04:40.240 police arrived on the scene, they tried to arrest Blake. He resisted. They tried to use non-lethal

00:04:45.020 measures, a taser. He resisted that too. He told them he had a knife in his possession. He went to his car

00:04:51.660 while they screamed for him to stop. He reached. They shot. Then they recovered a knife on the floorboard

00:04:57.200 of his car. So it's a review. Wanted domestic abuser. Girlfriend calls police on him. Police come

00:05:05.020 to make the arrest. He resists. Fight back. Fights back. Goes to his car. Reaches in. Knife is recovered.

00:05:12.340 Was he already holding the knife? Was he reaching for it? Was he reaching for something else and the

00:05:16.440 knife just happened to be there? There are still aspects of the story that remain unclear, but it's a very,

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00:07:03.940 Now that the truth is coming out about the Jacob Blake shooting,

00:07:08.440 you would expect maybe if you didn't know any better that that would make a difference to the

00:07:13.540 rioters. Of course it doesn't. It doesn't make a difference to them or anybody else on the left

00:07:16.940 because truth and conclusions drawn have no necessary relationship. All they care about are

00:07:23.100 anecdotes and stories. It could be an out-of-context anecdote. It could be a completely

00:07:26.960 false anecdote. None of that matters. And the problem is that when people think this way,

00:07:32.520 that generalized conclusions can be made based on random cherry-picked anecdotes, it's almost impossible

00:07:38.360 to reason with them because these are by every definition unreasonable people. Either not capable

00:07:44.080 of or simply not interested in engaging in any kind of critical analysis at all. Here's a great

00:07:50.280 example of that problem. Lots of people have sent me a video which supposedly shows that the Blake

00:07:55.420 shooting was racist. It's not a video of that shooting. It's a different police incident. And one

00:08:02.200 tweet of this video sent to me meant to debunk my take on the Blake shooting has over 20,000 retweets.

00:08:08.420 And the caption says, I mean, here's a video of a white man doing the exact same thing and not being

00:08:12.920 shot once, let alone seven times. Let's take a look at the clip. Watch.

00:08:16.420 He's trying not to use his gun.

00:08:37.960 Okay. So you have this supposedly revealing contrast there. In one case, the white guy gets

00:08:55.520 in the car, chases after the cop, gets in another car, doesn't get shot. In the other case, the black 0.84

00:08:59.820 man reaching into a car does get shot. What does that prove? Well, absolutely nothing at all of

00:09:05.620 relevance. All it proves is that in the first case, that particular police officer didn't shoot.

00:09:12.280 And the other, those particular police officers did. Now, if you could show me that the first

00:09:18.040 officer in the first case has fired on black people in the same situation, then you might have

00:09:24.280 something. But what you would have there is only an indictment of that particular cop, not cops

00:09:29.620 generally. These are mere anecdotes, different people, different places, different times,

00:09:34.620 different situations. And two can play at this game. That's the problem with drawing conclusions

00:09:39.440 from anecdotes. Anyone can do it. And then it becomes an anecdotal battle, flinging anecdotes

00:09:44.980 back and forth across the divide as we huddle in our trenches. If I wanted to, I could show you the

00:09:50.520 police shooting of Daniel Shaver, a white man, gunned down, unarmed, on his knees, begging for his

00:09:55.280 life. I could juxtapose that against video of a black man being much more aggressive and not being 0.77

00:10:01.380 shot by cops. Maybe I could show you a rioter throwing a brick at police or something like

00:10:06.020 that. Remember that police officer who was bashed in the head with a brick by rioters in Kenosha on

00:10:10.220 Sunday night? You might not remember it because it's already like it never happened. We don't talk

00:10:13.340 about it. But the attempted cop killer in that case didn't get shot. I don't know what his race was,

00:10:19.080 but it's a thing. I don't even know if he's been arrested. So could I look at that and draw some

00:10:23.720 kind of conclusion about the way cops responded? No, I can't. I've merely shown that in one case

00:10:31.600 something happened and in another something else happened. To make more general statements and to

00:10:39.380 form conclusions on a larger, less isolated scale, that's when you enter the realm of statistics and

00:10:46.800 you need huge sets of data and then you need to compare that data set against the other data set and

00:10:51.840 you have to make sure that you've set parameters and you've taken all the various factors into

00:10:56.920 account that might skew your results. Now, as it happens, I have done that. Others have done it

00:11:03.220 too when it comes to the issue of supposed systemic racism in policing. You can look at the number of

00:11:08.320 black people arrested in a given year versus white people. You can look at the percentage who wind up

00:11:12.720 getting shot by police. If you do that, you'll find the percentage is nearly identical between white and

00:11:17.380 black people. You can look at the overall number of unarmed police shootings every year for all races

00:11:22.920 and when you do that, you'll find that it's quite a rare occurrence and most of the supposedly unarmed

00:11:27.200 shootings, or many of them anyway, aren't really unarmed at all because the unarmed person was using

00:11:32.060 some other weapons such as a vehicle to inflict harm or threaten officers. You can do that. I've done it.

00:11:37.400 It's the only way to confirm or disconfirm claims about systemic bias and racism.

00:11:42.740 One other brief point, since we're on the subject of knocking down anecdotes,

00:11:48.160 let's do one more because this one is one that I see a lot and it's pretty annoying because it's 0.77

00:11:52.580 so ridiculous. And you've probably seen this too. Here's an example, a tweet from a guy named Austin 0.56

00:11:56.820 Duke saying, so the F what Matt, it still doesn't justify seven damn shots. What's so hard to understand 0.98

00:12:02.420 about that? When a mass murderer is taken to Burger King in the country, in this country, but black folks 0.99

00:12:07.600 dying over $20 in cigarettes, that's a problem. Seven shots isn't acceptable and we won't accept that. 0.80

00:12:12.740 Now, this is a reference, of course, to Dylan Roof, who is the racist mass murderer. The point being

00:12:19.660 made here, again, a common point is that Dylan Roof killed nine black churchgoers in Charleston and yet

00:12:25.600 was taken alive while, insert whatever cherry-picked example, Jacob Blake, George Floyd, et cetera,

00:12:30.740 was killed or shot. But what are the differences between these cases? You might say Roof was white.

00:12:39.500 That's the difference. Okay. Sure. Maybe under normal circumstances, they would have shot the mass

00:12:45.480 murderer dead, but decided not to because he's white. Maybe. Or maybe he survived, Roof did, 1.00

00:12:54.520 because he surrendered peacefully. And maybe most, the vast majority of these high-profile police

00:13:00.600 shootings end up being police shootings because the suspects in question do not surrender peacefully.

00:13:06.020 Perhaps that's the difference. And that would explain why, for example, the Beltway snipers,

00:13:12.080 black mass murderers, killed 17 people in a racially motivated killing spree, were also taken alive 0.96

00:13:17.400 because they also surrendered peacefully. A great many black killers, white killers, Asian killers, 1.00

00:13:22.860 Hispanic killers, all kinds of killers have been taken by police alive. And the reason is usually that 1.00

00:13:28.880 they surrender peacefully. Now, certainly there are some criminals who don't surrender peacefully and are

00:13:33.840 still taken alive. And if you have proof that black criminals who don't surrender peacefully are 0.97

00:13:39.980 significantly more likely to die than white criminals who don't surrender peacefully, then show me that 0.99

00:13:45.280 proof. The burden of proof is on you as the person making the claim. If you cannot meet the burden of 0.97

00:13:50.260 proof, it is reasonable for me to conclude that the thing which most determines a person's fate when

00:13:54.400 they're being arrested is how they choose to act in that moment. And that really makes a lot of sense when you

00:14:01.300 think about it. But why do I waste my breath? None of this matters to the people advancing the narrative,

00:14:09.140 which is why they will continue to protest for Jacob Blake, raise him up as a hero in spite of whatever facts

00:14:16.840 are known or become known in the future. I mean, my God, they rioted in Minneapolis last night after a wanted

00:14:22.860 murderer killed himself as police closed in, committed suicide. Even that somehow is police brutality.

00:14:29.780 The truth is irrelevant to these rioters and insurrectionists. They only want to destroy.

00:14:35.460 They are filled with hatred, envy, and aggression, and they will take any excuse they can find to let

00:14:40.560 it out. But the truth remains all the same, and we have to continue to speak it and defend it and let

00:14:46.620 its banner wave because someone in this country has to still care about the truth. And that's the only hope

00:14:54.440 we really have. Let's get to five headlines.

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00:17:12.380 So the RNC convention last night, night three, I hosted our all access watch party. I think we had

00:17:17.240 a good time. Um, and I was really happy that our all access members had an opportunity,

00:17:21.460 uh, you know, had the special treat of listening to me all night. So that was wonderful for them.

00:17:28.680 And there were even a few good speakers during the convention as well. I thought, um, now I'm,

00:17:33.740 I'm biased admittedly, but I, I thought the star of the night, the best speech was from sister

00:17:40.780 Deirdre Byrne. Uh, she's an army colonel, a doctor and a nun. It's kind of sounds like the beginning

00:17:46.500 of a joke, but it's all, it's all rolled into one. So she's all of those. And she got up to speak

00:17:51.420 and she did not disappoint at all. Take a listen. While we tend to think of the marginalized as living

00:17:56.780 beyond our borders, the truth is the largest marginalized group in the world can be found

00:18:02.440 here in the United States. They are the unborn. As Christians, we first met Jesus as a stirring

00:18:09.840 embryo in the womb of an unwed mother and saw him born nine months later in the poverty of the cave.

00:18:17.440 It's no coincidence that Jesus stood up for what was just and was ultimately crucified because what

00:18:23.960 he said wasn't politically correct or fashionable as followers of Christ, we are called to stand up

00:18:30.380 for life against the politically correct or fashionable of today. We must fight against a

00:18:37.700 legislative agenda that supports and even celebrates destroying life in the womb. Keep in mind, the laws

00:18:45.580 we create define how we see our humanity. And we must ask ourselves, what are we saying when we go

00:18:54.100 into a womb and snuff out an innocent, powerless, voiceless life? As a physician, I can say without 1.00

00:19:01.340 hesitation, life begins at conception. That's, that's awesome. And you know, I mean, you know, I'm going to

00:19:07.280 like that. That's, that is right in my wheelhouse. And I have to tell you, just so you know, if you're

00:19:14.300 not Catholic, what you just saw there, that's a real nun. Okay. She's got the habit. She's defending 1.00

00:19:22.560 the unborn. She's very kind and gentle, but you get the impression that she could whoop your ass if 1.00

00:19:27.520 she needed to. So those are, those are nun vibes. Okay. It's total nun vibes. Contrast that with the fake 0.99

00:19:33.160 nun at the DNC, dressed like a secretary praying to the sky goddess or whatever she was doing. 0.99

00:19:39.580 So, you know, just all you need is that contrast. And I know which nun I'm going to choose in the 0.94

00:19:44.320 celebrity death match. Other than that, I thought there were other good moments, some good speeches.

00:19:50.980 I also thought there were missed opportunities. And I think there have been some missed opportunities

00:19:54.040 all throughout this, the RNC convention. Now they, yeah, they've talked about supporting the

00:19:58.080 police. They've talked about the riots and chaos. They've talked about law and order. I think

00:20:01.380 there should be an even greater emphasis on that. I mean, we are right now, the RNC convention is

00:20:06.540 happening. They got three hours of primetime coverage while, um, Democrats are burning down

00:20:12.800 the city in Kenosha. And, you know, and so I think that, I think there's a real opportunity there

00:20:18.300 to focus in intensely and show people what's happening. And, you know, in, with, with,

00:20:25.340 with specificity, not just saying, Oh, right. At this point, when you say rioting, it almost

00:20:30.280 doesn't mean anything to people. We're numb to it. I think you need to get into specifics and talk

00:20:34.840 about specific things that are happening and then call out Democrats by name who refuse to condemn it

00:20:42.580 or who, uh, or who have actually actively encouraged it. There's been a little bit of that. Some of that,

00:20:50.160 I think there should be more. Okay. Number two, CNN has been a parody of itself, of course, for years

00:20:54.860 now, but what I'm about to show you is so embarrassing and disgraceful that the phrase

00:21:00.660 beyond parody scarcely begins to cover it. Watch what you're seeing behind me is one of multiple

00:21:08.480 locations that have been burning in Kenosha, Wisconsin over the course of the night. A second

00:21:14.460 night since Jacob Blake was seen shot in the back seven times by a police officer. And what you are

00:21:22.240 seeing now, these images came and come in stark contrast to what we saw over the course of the

00:21:27.380 daytime hours in Kenosha and into the early evening, which were largely peaceful demonstrations

00:21:32.800 in the face of law enforcement. It wasn't until night fell that things began to get a little bit

00:21:36.940 more contentious. Things were thrown back and forth. Police started using some of those crowd

00:21:41.900 dispersal tactics like tear gas, even playing, uh, very loud sounds to push them out. And then

00:21:48.280 what you were seeing, the common theme that ties all of this together is an expression of anger

00:21:52.740 and frustration over what people feel like has become an all too familiar story playing out in

00:21:58.900 places from across the country, not just here in Kenosha, Wisconsin. Fiery, but mostly peaceful

00:22:06.900 protests. CNN says as a literal fire rages in the background. Um, I, I, I'm, you know,

00:22:14.140 it makes you wonder like if they were reporting live from the Titanic, a pleasant cruise, but a little

00:22:21.100 damp, probably what they would say. You know, people sometimes ask questions like, is there really

00:22:26.460 anything new about biased media? Uh, you know, did having a media more interested in propaganda than

00:22:32.400 truth? Is that new? I mean, has it, and the answer is no, of course it's not. As long as there has been

00:22:36.260 anything like a news media, it's been biased and, and there's been propaganda. I think the difference

00:22:42.180 now, um, between now and other periods in the past is that these days, the media really just has

00:22:50.180 no concern for the truth at all, period. They aren't even worried about looking like they're telling

00:22:55.160 the truth. And this largely is a reflection of our post truth culture where relativism reigns supreme

00:23:01.100 and, uh, many of the people in this country honestly believe that truth is fluid and can be

00:23:07.200 whatever they want it to be. And the media reflects that. Um, and I think the media in fact reflects it

00:23:11.980 more than it drives it. The media is a symptom of the underlying, you know, moral relativism, uh, not,

00:23:19.920 not more than it is a, a, a cause of that. Let's go to number three. As you probably heard by now,

00:23:26.000 the 17 year old who killed two rioters, Kyle Rittenhouse is his name, has been arrested and

00:23:30.200 charged with first degree murder. Um, and now we, we haven't seen, here's what it comes down to for

00:23:39.740 me. First degree murder is the charge. We haven't seen as far as I'm aware, any video that shows

00:23:48.080 anything other than self-defense. There are multiple videos out there of, of Rittenhouse and of the two

00:23:53.680 incidents that occurred. Um, now if, if there's something floating around out there, evidence of an

00:23:59.320 actual first degree murder, I haven't seen it. And I've looked that there's still a question mark

00:24:05.340 here, a pretty big one. The second shooting, the one that was caught vividly and close up on camera,

00:24:12.060 that to my mind, clearly self-defense, non-controversial. He's falling, they're chasing.

00:24:18.120 One of the rioters also has a gun. Um, he falls, they try to pounce on him. He gets, you know,

00:24:23.500 then he opens fire, self-defense all the way. Uh, I think, I think that part of it, any defense

00:24:29.540 attorney is going to have no problem handling that. You could hire me as your, as your defense

00:24:33.500 attorney. My, my, my legal education involves watching Better Call Saul. That's all I got.

00:24:39.040 And even I could probably get you clear on those charges, but then you have the first shooting.

00:24:44.240 Um, and that's the one that wasn't clearly caught on tape. As far as I know, I think from what we have

00:24:49.520 seen, there are strong indications of self-defense, but you know, I, I, I don't think we fully know

00:24:54.580 yet. Here's what we do know though. Sadly, Kyle Rittenhouse is screwed no matter what, even if

00:25:03.060 he's innocent, which you very may well, he, he may, he, uh, he very well may be, but even then he's 0.95

00:25:10.340 still, he's still screwed because our media and system is rigged against people like him. And they're

00:25:16.460 going to, they're going to make an example of him. You know, it's all the people talking about

00:25:21.700 problems in the system. They're right. There are serious problems in the system. It's just not the

00:25:27.420 problem they're talking about. Number four, the New York post reports that a taxidermist in England

00:25:33.260 has now unveiled, uh, his latest work. It's called potable high five machines, and they're made using

00:25:40.080 limbs, uh, from rodents, uh, apparently. And, uh, reading out from the article, it says his

00:25:47.080 inspiration came from wanting to help people who like to celebrate and greet each other with a high

00:25:50.600 five, but are concerned about doing so during coronavirus. He said, um, they're called potable

00:25:55.280 high five machines that are, and are made out of rat legs. He said, I've been skinning rats to make

00:26:00.120 other things, but I accidentally tore off one of the legs when I was making an, I was making an 0.80

00:26:04.160 abominable snowman, which have heads made from rat scrotums. I don't want to waste it or just throw

00:26:10.100 it into my tub of odd, odd toes and scraps of ball sack. So I thought, so I thought it might be nice

00:26:16.220 to make a portable high five machine. Okay. Well, that makes sense. Personally, I don't know why you

00:26:23.460 wouldn't take your tub of toes and ball sack and make like a nice stew or even a dip, uh, for your

00:26:29.840 Tostitos to serve when your fellow serial killers come over for the game on Sunday. Um, now let's

00:26:36.320 take a look at this creation here. There it is. There's the, the high five machine. Absolutely

00:26:43.540 horrifying. Imagine waking up tied to a chair in somebody's root cellar and you look around and

00:26:51.260 you see that, you see that right there. What would you think? And then you look to the other side of

00:26:58.260 the room and you see little snowmen made from rat scrotum. And then you say to the other person 0.95

00:27:03.820 tied up in the room with you, Hey, it looks like that snowman is made from a rat scrotum. And they 0.99

00:27:09.440 say to you, how can you so easily identify a rat scrotum? And you say, because this is my basement 0.98

00:27:16.340 and then you take out your ax and kill him. Twist ending. You didn't see that coming. Got a little 1.00

00:27:22.500 dark there at the end. All right. Um, number five, finally, a video has gone viral. I'm not sure who this

00:27:27.740 girl is, or even if this is supposed to be a joke or not, but, uh, people are taking it seriously

00:27:31.860 and, uh, and, um, are, are mocking this girl. My perspective on it might surprise you a little

00:27:37.900 bit. I don't know, but first watch this. I was just doing my makeup for work and I just wanted

00:27:43.720 to tell you guys about how I don't think math is real. And I know that like, it's real because we

00:27:49.980 all like learn it in school or whatever, but who came up with this concept? And you're like Pythagoras,

00:27:55.020 but how, how did he come up with this? He was living in like the, I don't know, whenever

00:28:02.160 he was living, but it was not now where you can like have technology and stuff, you know?

00:28:07.760 Like he didn't even have plumbing and he was like, let me worry about Y equals MX plus B, 1.00

00:28:12.880 which first of all, how would you even figure that out? How would you like start on the concept

00:28:18.360 of algebra? Like, what did you need it for? You know? Cause like I get like addition, like,

00:28:24.540 Hey, if I take two apples and then on three, it's five, you know, but how would you come up with the

00:28:30.280 concept of like algebra? Cause what would you need it for? You know what I mean? Like, what would you

00:28:34.820 need it for back then? You didn't need it. So why would you come up with it? Now, of course,

00:28:40.420 people are sharing that and mocking her for being an idiot. Uh, that seems to be the consensus, 1.00

00:28:44.580 but I'm going to, I'm going to unironically, and I have to say that because no one can ever tell

00:28:48.680 when I'm being ironic or not. So unironically, I will defend her here because what she's posing

00:28:53.880 is actually a very intelligent question and one that philosophers and mathematicians have been

00:28:59.000 debating for thousands of years. In fact, the people that are calling her stupid have only revealed 0.99

00:29:02.720 their own stupidity. You know, oftentimes you can tell how dumb someone is by how they react 1.00

00:29:12.100 to an abstract point or question like this. Oh, that's a stupid question. No, it's just you're 1.00

00:29:17.080 stupid. So you don't understand why that's actually a really intelligent question. Um, 1.00

00:29:22.220 is math real? That is not a stupid Einstein wondered about the same thing. Was he stupid? 0.99

00:29:28.120 There is a debate about whether math is innate to the universe, a fun, you know, 1.00

00:29:32.800 sort of a fundamental facet of reality or whether it's a human construct. In other words,

00:29:38.320 is math invented by people or did we discover it? Entire philosophical theories have been built

00:29:45.200 around the idea that math is not innate, um, that it was invented, which is what the girl here is

00:29:51.180 suggesting. And I don't happen to agree. I think math is, math is innate and mathematics is just the

00:29:56.120 process of noticing and sort of attaching symbols to these innate patterns in the universe. So math is

00:30:01.700 real, but symbolic. Uh, you know, we use a little sideways M to denote the fact that there are three

00:30:07.880 units of something. Um, we could use any symbol for that. So that's symbolic, but it is still a fact

00:30:13.460 and, uh, that there are three or whatever word and symbol you want to use to denote it. But what the

00:30:20.240 girl is demonstrating here is a capacity for abstract thought. Um, just the practice of taking something

00:30:27.980 basic and questioning why it exists or if it exists or why it needs to exist. That's a capacity that I

00:30:37.380 think we should encourage in young people. And I think one of the problems with the public education

00:30:40.920 system is that it's not encouraged. You know, if you're in math class and you're learning algebra

00:30:45.200 and you raise your hand and say, you know, and start asking philosophical questions about

00:30:51.400 whether this is, you know, a fundamental pattern of the universe or whether this was invented or what's,

00:30:57.480 what's, you know, there's not going to be time to get into that with you. And you're just going to

00:31:01.240 be told to shut up and do your, do your assignment. Um, but these are exactly the questions that I think

00:31:05.760 young people should be encouraged to, to think about and talk about. I think most people never

00:31:11.060 wonder about these things because they're not intellectually curious and their brains can't

00:31:14.480 deal very well in the abstract. But when you see this, uh, I think when we see this in kids,

00:31:20.420 we should encourage it and not go, you moron, what an idiot and make farting noises in their faces. 1.00

00:31:26.040 I don't think that's the right response when young people are asking abstract questions. 1.00

00:31:32.920 That's just me though. That's my thought. All right. Um, we're gonna get to our daily

00:31:37.680 cancellation, uh, right now for our daily cancellation. We're going to cancel, uh, the

00:31:45.140 New York times for a lengthy article, quite lengthy, must be 8,000 words or more just published.

00:31:50.020 Um, just published yesterday. Here's the headline convicted of sex crimes, but with no victims and

00:31:55.780 online sting operation to catch child predators, snared hundreds of men. But what were they really

00:32:00.660 guilty of? Now, if you think that those of us who warn of the normalization of pedophilia and the

00:32:05.640 sexualization of children are suffering from paranoid delusions, you should really pay attention

00:32:09.740 here. The article, uh, talks about a sting operations conducted by law enforcement to catch

00:32:14.420 sex predators. And it focuses especially on, um, operation net nanny, which is the initiative in

00:32:19.920 Washington state where sex predators are lured to a house to catch a predator style and arrested.

00:32:25.600 Although it's not on TV, this is all just a law enforcement operation, but it's quite clear that

00:32:30.740 the, the, the writer of this article, Michael Winnerip, uh, wants us to feel sorry for these men who get

00:32:36.320 caught. And he appears to see this tactic of trapping potential sex predators as unjust and unfair,

00:32:41.440 and we should pity them for it. Um, I will say that throughout the article, he does raise a few

00:32:46.720 interesting points. One thing that he dwells on is the fact that in many cases, men who actually

00:32:51.600 molest and rape children get lighter sentences than men who get caught up trying to molest kids

00:32:57.500 in these sting operations. And I would agree that men who actually molest kids should get longer

00:33:02.520 sentences in the same way that a murderer, uh, a murderer should get a longer sentence than an

00:33:07.180 attempted murderer. Right. But the answer in my opinion is extending the sentences for the child

00:33:12.960 rapist, not shortening the sentences for the attempted child rapist. So an example that he gives

00:33:19.040 is of a man who had, who raped a 13 year old repeatedly over the course of a year admitted

00:33:23.840 to molesting two of his siblings also, but got, um, then, then was his sentence was a minimum of

00:33:29.940 seven years. Meanwhile, another man who got caught in a sting operation trying to meet with an 11 year

00:33:34.920 old for sex got a minimum of 10 years. Now, yes, that that's absurd. The rapist ought to have gotten

00:33:40.940 more than seven years. How about 70 years instead? Um, I don't think child rapists should ever see the

00:33:46.700 outside of a prison ever again, but a guy who tries to meet an 11 year old for sex, even if there is

00:33:51.600 no 11 year old, because it was an undercover cop the whole time is undoubtedly a threat to society

00:33:56.320 and should consider himself lucky to only get 10 years in prison for that. So this is the way the

00:34:02.460 article is kind of set up. And it starts right off the bat, giving us an extremely sympathetic

00:34:07.100 portrait of a man who wanted to rape a 13 year old girl. Um, here is, uh, here's the picture of the 0.79

00:34:13.840 man along with his mother. So I think that gives you a good idea, pretty good idea of, of how the

00:34:17.220 New York times wants us to view this guy. And let me read a little bit of this to you. Okay. It says

00:34:22.520 Jace Hembrick worked as an apprentice laborer during the weeks, uh, renovating homes around

00:34:29.180 Vancouver, Washington and at neighborhood gas stations on weekends. Much of the rest of his life

00:34:34.040 was online. He was hardcore amassing a collection of more than 200 games. People told him, uh, it wasn't

00:34:39.620 smart to be so, so cut off from reality, but his internet life felt rich as a dungeon master and

00:34:45.000 dungeon dungeons and dragons. He controlled other players destinies as a video warrior. He was known

00:34:50.700 online by his, by his, uh, nickname and was constantly messaging fellow gamers, particularly

00:34:56.560 his best friend, Simon, though the two had never met in person over the last few years. They paired up

00:35:01.420 as teammates playing rainbow six siege and rocket league and grew close. Um, this is, this is all

00:35:09.560 in crucial information that we need about this guy at 20. Hambrick was still living at home with his

00:35:13.700 mother, big surprise there, uh, to save money for college where he hoped to study game design.

00:35:18.220 He was a voracious reader who could knock off a thousand page fantasy novel in two days,

00:35:23.460 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, et cetera. Uh, giving us his whole life story. And then finally

00:35:27.740 one Friday after work in February 2017, Hambrick came across a casual encounters W4M women searching 0.51

00:35:35.620 for men post that seemed meant for him. Uh, just gamer girl sitting home on Sunday. It read,

00:35:41.740 we can chat as long as I'm not leveling. I don't even know what that means. As long as I'm not

00:35:47.020 leveling. Hambrick emailed back. Sounds like fun. What game you play in? Uh, I am hooked on alien

00:35:52.360 isolation. Gamer girl replied, forget sex. Hambrick wrote, let me come watch. Uh, let me come watch. 0.95

00:35:58.880 I haven't gotten that one yet. Adding that he was 20, 15 years, 15 minutes later, gamer girl replied

00:36:04.960 that she was 13. Hambrick was confused. Why did you post an ad on Craigslist? If you're 13, you mean

00:36:11.100 23? She asked for his cell phone number and they switched to texting, exchanging photos. Gamer girl was

00:36:17.860 beautiful. He thought if he wasn't being pranked, big eyes, cute white cap, soft smile, gazing up at

00:36:23.700 the camera serenely with a really nice set of headphones. They exchanged a few texts about sex.

00:36:29.340 I can be real bad if you're into bondage. He typed, but he was already hoping for more than just sex. 0.88

00:36:34.640 I don't get out much. He texted. Uh, I feel like if we get to talking, I, it might go somewhere.

00:36:39.900 You're beautiful and a gamer. I might have no problem hanging out with you. That's cool.

00:36:44.960 So gamer girl replied, and then it gets into even more graphic stuff, uh, with the guy talking about

00:36:49.520 what he wants to do to her sexually, uh, do that is to a girl who told him that she's 13. 0.96

00:36:55.160 Now back to the article, it says, was this an elaborate game? Again, she claimed to be 13.

00:37:00.920 The photo seemed to tell a different story and the gaming chair she was seated in looked too

00:37:04.600 expensive for a kid. She, well, parents could have bought it. You know, she used slang. A 13 year old

00:37:10.220 probably wouldn't know like FTP. It means F the police that originated in eighties hip hop. Oh yeah.

00:37:15.820 I'm sure there's no 13 year olds that know that the vulgarities and snide tones seem to adult. Her 0.99

00:37:20.120 texts were full of LOLs. Was she an immature teenager or a sly adult? Her driving direction

00:37:26.640 seemed too specific for 13. Hamburg texted that he would be driving a red Prius, his mother's

00:37:31.400 and gamer girl replied that she would be wearing a gray sweatshirt and ripped jeans. It was a 20 minute

00:37:35.320 drive to the house. Um, after stopping for condoms, he arrived at seven, 7 PM, three and a half hours

00:37:40.600 after their first email, she came to the door just as she'd said in torn jeans and sweatshirt. And, um,

00:37:47.660 and then, uh, it goes on and then he goes inside and that's when Chris Hansen shows up or, you know,

00:37:53.780 whoever's standing in for Chris Hansen. Um, you know, the cops come out and, uh, and, and all of that,

00:38:00.520 and they live happily ever after or the rest of us do. And he went to prison as he should. And the

00:38:05.240 New York times wants us to feel badly about that because after all, he was never actually talking

00:38:09.660 to a 13 year old and he didn't, he didn't think that she looked 13 and, uh, she knew how to give

00:38:15.540 driving directions. What 13 year old can do that? And she uses LOL. Apparently 13 year olds don't do 1.00

00:38:21.460 that. Of course, none of this makes any sense. She told you she was 13. What you thought this was a

00:38:26.720 grown woman pretending to be 13 and thus trying to attract child rapists because she's into that sort 1.00

00:38:33.460 of thing. Now I'm sure there are freaks out there in the slimy dregs of cyberspace who are into that,

00:38:38.080 but that excuse just doesn't cut it and shouldn't. A girl told you she was 13. You came over to have

00:38:45.400 sex with her. End of story. Goodbye. Enjoy prison. Um, the article makes much of the fact that these 1.00

00:38:52.940 guys who get caught in these things aren't really soliciting minors for sex because they're actually

00:38:56.880 talking to undercover cops. It also tells us that a lot of the predators don't have a criminal history

00:39:01.560 and many of them don't have child porn on their computers. We're supposed to be impressed by that

00:39:05.920 apparently. And then it sort of skims over other things that are, that seem relevant. Like the fact

00:39:11.780 that half of the men caught in this Washington sting operation were trying to meet children 11 years old

00:39:17.220 and younger, which makes them pedophiles by definition. Now, yes, there can be gray areas when

00:39:23.400 it comes to who ends up on the sex offender registry. Uh, you hear about cases, for example, of say an 18 year

00:39:28.480 old in a relationship with someone a few years younger than him ending up on the registry, even

00:39:33.640 though they're so close in age, they could have gone to high school together. Now that is unjust.

00:39:37.980 I think most of us can agree and wrong, but that's not what we're talking about here. 20 year old and a

00:39:42.100 13 year old, no gray area, no mitigating circumstances, grown men looking to meet 11 year olds,

00:39:49.540 no gray area. These are sex predators, plain and simple. What about using these sting operations to 0.90

00:39:55.440 catch them? Well, um, you know, is there something unfair about that? Does it matter that they aren't

00:40:01.880 actually chatting with a real child? No. And no. First of all, if you're told that she's 13,

00:40:08.280 you're perfectly free and able to say, Oh, nevermind. You shouldn't be on this site, kid.

00:40:13.880 Go tell your parents and walk away. There's no entrapment here because you aren't being trapped at

00:40:19.580 all. You're not backed into a corner. You can walk away. Second, catching predators and enforcing

00:40:25.420 the law against child molestation and rape and sex crimes. That's very difficult. Um, these are not

00:40:31.400 easy laws to enforce precisely. The problem here is that so often the laws are enforced retroactively

00:40:37.240 and the, after the crime has been committed, but then in that case, the damage has already been done

00:40:42.280 to the child. So now we're punishing a predator and protecting the next victim, but it's too late to

00:40:47.780 protect the first victim. So law enforcement tries to devise ways to protect even the first victim,

00:40:52.760 to smoke these guys out and get them behind bars before they're able to successfully hurt a child.

00:40:59.360 This isn't pre-crime like the minority report. You are catching people who are actively trying to 1.00

00:41:05.540 commit a crime. It's just that they're trying to commit it in, you might say, a controlled environment.

00:41:10.640 It's no different than a woman who gets a murder charge for trying to hire an undercover cop to kill 1.00

00:41:15.220 her husband. The point obviously is that if the undercover cop hadn't been there, she would have hired a

00:41:20.120 real hit man. And then we'd be arresting her after the poor sap she's married to is already six feet 1.00

00:41:25.460 under. So what's going on here of all the problems in the world of all the injustices to expose.

00:41:33.060 Why are we getting a novel length article telling us about the trials and tribulations of men who

00:41:37.580 tried to have sex with pubescent or prepubescent children? Well, it goes back to what we said at the

00:41:42.400 top. There is in my estimation, a noticeable effort, um, underway in our culture to normalize

00:41:49.600 pedophilia and sexualize children and to paint the men who prey upon children as victims of an

00:41:54.540 overzealous and prudish system. This is just another example of that, of many. And the examples

00:42:01.240 are only increasing. And that is why, uh, with great vengeance, we must cancel the New York Times

00:42:08.020 again. All right. We'll leave it there for today, guys. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening.

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Ep. 552 - The Media Narrative In The Jacob Blake Shooting Begins To Crumble

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