Ep. 554 - We Have Made It Impossible For Police Officers To Do Their Jobs
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Is it even possible to be a police officer in America today when even shooting a knife-wielding suspected rapist and serial abuser causes protests and riots? Also, five headlines including the apparent execution of a Trump supporter in Portland and Joe Biden s incredible moral cowardice in the face of escalating violence. And in our daily cancellation, we will cancel the latest celebrity to come out as non-binary, whatever that means exactly.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, is it even possible to be a police officer in America today when even
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shooting a knife-wielding suspected rapist and serial abuser causes protests and riots?
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Also, five headlines including the apparent execution murder of a Trump supporter in Portland
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and Joe Biden's incredible moral cowardice in the face of this escalating violence.
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And in our daily cancellation, we will cancel the latest celebrity to come out as
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non-binary, whatever that's supposed to mean exactly. That and much more to discuss today,
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supplies last. Okay. Here's the scenario. You are a police officer, a seven-year veteran of the
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force. One day, call comes in, domestic disturbance. A woman is contacted 911 because her ex-boyfriend
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is at her house, is not supposed to be there. She's scared. He's stolen her keys, wants to take
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her vehicle. He's wanted for sexual assault and domestic abuse. There's a warrant for his arrest.
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When you pull up in your police cruiser, you quickly notice the knife in his hand. You try to
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de-escalate the situation with words, reasoning with him. He's in no mood to be reasoned with.
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Then you try to take control of the situation physically, but he fights back, puts you in a
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headlock. You deploy your taser. It has no effect. Another taser. Again, no effect. Then he starts moving
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towards the vehicle. Is he going to grab a gun? Is he going to steal the car and drive away? Is he going
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to take it and run you or the woman over? There are kids inside. Will they become hostages? Will
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they get injured in a car chase? Will he kill them? These possibilities all race through your
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head in the span of five seconds, maybe less. You don't have time to deliberate. The man has
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made his choice, and all you can do is respond to it. So you yell for him to stop. He doesn't listen.
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You yell again. Your gun is pointed right at him. He doesn't care. He opens the door. You grab him.
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He makes a move to climb inside or reach for something. You're out of time. You shoot.
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Let's try another scenario. You're not a police officer. In fact, you don't have any job at all,
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nor do you have a car. Sometimes you take your ex-girlfriends without permission.
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One morning, you're angry at her, so you break into her house while she's sleeping. You go into a room,
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and you sexually assault her just to make a point. She's scared. She's crying. You've seen her like
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this before all the other times that you've abused and beaten her through the years, usually when
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you're drinking. You leave her like that. You exit the room. You steal her keys and her debit card.
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You drive away in her vehicle. You stop at the ATM and take out some money on her card. She calls the
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cops. Eventually, a warrant is issued for your arrest. Fast forward a month or two. You go to her house
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again. She tells you to leave. You refuse. You take your keys from her. At some point, you draw a
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knife. The cops show up. You assault them, too. You refuse to go with them, even after two zaps from
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the taser. You escape their grasp. You start moving towards the car. They draw their guns, point them at
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you, screaming. You keep moving. You open the door. One officer is pulling at your shirt. You keep moving.
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You wake up in a hospital bed. You cannot feel your legs.
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Now, those are the two scenarios. Two people, same situation. Which of these people did you find most
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relatable? Whose actions can you more readily understand? Who made choices that you could see
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yourself possibly making in a similar situation? If you had to launch a moral or logical defense of
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either person, which would you choose? Now, far be it for me to make assumptions about you, but I would
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certainly hope and guess that you can relate to, defend, and understand the first man, the police
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officer. The second man has his reasons, I guess, for the way he acts, but they cannot possibly be
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good reasons, and his behavior is not defensible or, for decent people, understandable on any level
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at all. And yet, in this upside-down world in which we live, it is the second man who gains all of the
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sympathy. It is his name that's cried out in grief and mourning. It is for him that every professional
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sports league in the country speaks out in solidarity. It is his name that ends up on the
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murals and the poster boards and the t-shirts. The other man's name, the police officer, who made
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choices and behaved in a way that every decent and rational human on earth, if they were to stop to
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think about it for two seconds, would at least find comprehensible, perhaps even admirable,
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is anathema. He is cast in the role of villain, the dastardly foil to our hero, who also happens
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to be a serial abuser and rapist, at least if the allegations are true. Now, granted, some of the
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scenario, as I have described it here, is technically speculative, but it's a scenario that emerges very
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clearly from a combination of the video, the police scanner audio, the criminal complaint filed
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against Jacob Blake, stemming from his alleged sexual assault of his ex-girlfriend in May of this year,
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and the testimony of the Kenosha Police Union. The other scenario, the first one we were given,
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and the one that the media would still like for us to believe, that Blake is a family man and a
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good Samaritan randomly gunned down by a racist cop for the crime of breaking up a fight between two
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women, has absolutely no credible evidence of any kind to support it. All of the evidence points to
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what I have just described. And the allegation of the sexual assault is just that, an allegation,
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but it was made by a woman who called 911 on the day of the alleged crime, and trembled with fear
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as she recounted what had happened to her. There is just no good reason to doubt her.
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The point is that, from everything we know, and in light of all of the credible evidence,
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and I am counting, by the way, I'm counting as decidedly not credible, the supposed eyewitnesses
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who initially claimed that Blake wasn't behaving aggressively at all, even though he had a knife,
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and he had a cop and a headlock, and only took his girlfriend's keys and went to her car with
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guns trained on him so he could check on his kids. That's what one of the eyewitnesses said.
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So I am counting that as not credible, but in light of all the credible evidence,
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the police officers were responding to a situation entirely of Jacob Blake's own making,
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and doing what they could to protect all of the innocent lives involved, including their own.
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There is, at this juncture, no reasonably plausible version of the story that vindicates Jacob Blake,
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and yet, again, he is lionized and canonized and mourned over,
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while the officers are castigated as attempted murderers and racists.
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And those accusations rain down from some of the most visible and powerful perches in society.
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In other words, it's the same old story playing out again and again and again and again.
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How is it even possible to be a police officer in this environment?
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Because the moment a suspect, a non-white suspect,
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resists arrest or goes for a gun or tries to kill you or someone else, you lose, no matter what.
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You go to work every day to serve communities that despise you.
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You risk your life for people who wouldn't dump a bucket of water on you to put out the flames if you
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were on fire. In fact, they probably set the fire.
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In the most intense and life-threatening situations, you are left with no room for error.
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Even if you don't make an error, the video that somebody captures and cuts and clips and posts
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online may make it seem like you did. If you end up in a fight for your life against a violent
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sociopath, you may go to prison for winning it.
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The people gathered around to watch and film the incident will almost certainly lie about what
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happened. They will inexplicably defend the sociopath and call for your head on a platter.
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They will say that they live in fear for their life every day because of you.
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But it's the sociopath and people like him who are responsible for almost all of the killing and
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violence in their community. And yet its members will choose him over you, like the crowds shouting
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for Pilate to release Barabbas. And if he dies, they will mourn the loss of a man whose absence
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makes them all safer. This attitude is not confined to any town or city. It's fostered
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at the highest levels of society. Powerful politicians and athletes and celebrities are
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all dedicated to a narrative that is completely disconnected from reality. And if you're a police
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officer, they tell lies about you and your line of work constantly, and they don't care
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if those lies get you killed. And while your worst and most difficult moments are broadcast
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to the entire world and dissected by idiots and charlatans who've never in their lives
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faced a situation as volatile as the kind you encounter every day, your triumphs are ignored.
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For example, law enforcement officers in Georgia just completed a two-week operation that successfully
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recovered 39 missing children, 15 of whom were being sex trafficked. This news was covered in a
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perfunctory way because it had to be, but it was not plastered all over the headlines or shouted from
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the rooftops. Only your mistakes or things that can be made to look like mistakes get that kind of
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treatment. It seems impossible to deal with this, and yet thousands of police officers do deal with
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it every day by choice. This doesn't mean that police officers are always right or that injustice at the
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hands of law enforcement never happens or that we should adopt an uncritical attitude towards agents
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of the state. Far from it. But they are doing a job that society needs done, and one that is only made
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more difficult by the day. So I figure I owe them the respect of at least listening to their side of the
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story and trying to see it from their perspective and considering all of the factors in the entire
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context before labeling them bullies or murderers for the choices they make in situations I have never
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encountered while doing a job I rely on, but would never want to do myself, especially these days.
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Well, we begin, of course, with the Trump supporter in Portland apparently executed in cold
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blunt on Sunday, Saturday, that is. A caravan of Trump supporters and Blue Lives Matter supporters
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went into Portland to counter-demonstrate. Much has been made of the fact that they were
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shooting paintballs at the BLM and Antifa people using pepper spray in some cases, and that's true,
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but every video I've seen of the paintball and pepper spray being deployed begins with someone
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in the Antifa slash BLM crowd throwing something at them or using some other weapon against them.
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So in any case, it was a volatile environment. And then the shooting. The victim's name is Aaron
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Danielson. The man police are investigating for the killing is Michael Forrest Rinal.
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A few pieces of footage have emerged from this. None of them very clear. The first shows in the
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distance, in the dark, one man walk up to another, and then you see the gun go off and the guy who
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pulled the trigger runs in the other direction. It does not appear at all to be self-defense in that
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video. It appears to be execution, plain and simple. But the most revealing video is actually
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one that doesn't show the shooting at all. Instead, it's what you hear that matters. So I'm going to
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play that for you now. And again, you're not going to be able to really see anything. It doesn't
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matter what you see. Just, just listen, listen for the words that you hear.
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Yeah, that is one of the most chilling videos I've ever seen. And it doesn't even show the shooting.
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itself. You can clearly hear someone say, Hey, we've got another one here. We've got another
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one. We've got another one here. We've got someone right here. And then, and then someone else says
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right here. And then bang, bang, you hear the guns. Um, by all indications, they targeted this man
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and executed him in cold blood, first degree murder and political terrorism. Um, and you know,
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the guy who did it should be, should be, this should be federal charges, ship them off to Guantanamo
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Bay. As far as I'm concerned, uh, he is a, not only a murderer, but a terrorist. This is an act of
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terrorism. Now, needless to say the leftists who are apoplectic about Kyle Rittenhouse, in spite of
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the fact that it appeared in his case to actually be self-defense, they couldn't find it in themselves
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to condemn this, this political execution with nearly the same fervor or, or really condemn it
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at all. In a lot of cases. Um, this includes, of course, the rotting cucumber of a mayor, Ted Wheeler,
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who spent more time in his press conference yesterday, condemning Donald Trump than the
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actual guy who pulled the trigger. And also Joe Biden, who issued a statement that really flies in
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the face of all the stuff we hear about him being a decent guy and just a wonderful guy.
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The, the, the Democrat convention was just four days of what a wonderful, great guy he is. What
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here are his, his, his favorite ice cream toppings. What a great guy he is. Um, well, you see not just
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in this, but you see, uh, illustrated in this statement, which I'll read you in a second, the
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fact that Joe Biden is among other things, an incredible moral coward. So let me play this for
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or not play it. Uh, let me read it for you. In fact, here's the statement from Joe Biden.
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Uh, and this statement, by the way, of course, is being praised by the media as being a, just a
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wonderful, wonderful statement, very calming and all of that great leadership here. Well, you tell me
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what you think. The deadly violence we saw overnight in Portland is unacceptable. Shooting in the streets
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of a great American city is unacceptable. Oh, he called it, well, it's unacceptable. Great. Okay. Well,
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that's a strong condemnation, isn't it? Yes. Um, uh, walking up to a guy and executing him on the
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street is unacceptable. I condemn this violence unequivocally. I condemn violence of every kind
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by anyone, whether on the left or right. And I challenged Donald Trump to do the same. It does
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not matter if you find the political views of your opponents abhorrent. Any loss of life is a
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tragedy. Today, there is another family grieving in America and Jill and I offer our deepest condolences.
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We must not become a country at war with ourselves, a country that accepts the killing of fellow
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Americans who do not agree with you, a country that vows vengeance towards one another. But this is the
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America that president Trump wants us to be the America he believes we are as a country. We must
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condemn the incitement of hate and resentment that led to this deadly clash. Listen to that part.
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Let me read it again. As a country, we must condemn the incitement of hate and resentment that led to
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this deadly clash. It is not a peaceful protest when you go out spoiling for a fight. Who does president
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Trump, what does president Trump think will happen when he continues to insist on fanning the flames of
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hate and division in our society and using the politics of fear to whip up his supporters. He is
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recklessly encouraging the violence. Uh, and then he goes on a little bit more,
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uh, attack. It just, the rest of it is just attacking president Trump. Okay. So he spends
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most of this, um, condemning president Trump there. There is, I don't, I don't think there is even in
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this statement really a clear and very specific and harsh condemnation of the killing itself.
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He calls it unacceptable, but he does it in the, he he's using a passive voice,
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which is a common trick that leftists are pulling now. And we'll get, we'll get to another
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example of that in just a second, but he's using a passive voice and he's kind of speaking in general
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to a deadly, a clash, a deadly clash. This wasn't a clash. It wasn't a dead, the deadly moment was not
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a clash. This was just a guy walking down the street and he was shot in the head. Uh, it's not a
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clash. That's, that's murder. And, uh, and, but he's condemning the incitement and hate and resentment
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that led to this. Now, yeah, I agree that there's a lot of incitement and hate and resentment leading
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to this, but that's happening from BLM and Antifa and Democrats. And I know that, you know, uh, I
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basically just said the same thing three times. Sorry for the redundancy that's happening from them,
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but that's not what he means. He's saying the people that were there were inciting the hatred and,
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and, uh, and, and resentment. So this is, this is victim blaming on top of it. Um, at a minimum,
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this is moral cowardice from Joe Biden, who just, I'm sorry, is not the great decent guy,
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uh, that they make him out to be. I wish he was, I really wish he was, but he's not. Um,
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number two, since we're on the subject of the impossibility of policing these days,
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here are a few exhibits to present for your consideration. Uh, not that you need any more.
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We've seen a lot, but just some, some of the latest, okay. On that topic. First,
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this is a BLM leader in DC openly calling for police and other public officials to be murdered.
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And this is being said into a megaphone in the middle of the city. Um, and, uh, anyway,
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I'm at the point where I'm ready to put these police in the grave. I'm at the point where
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I want to burn the white house down. I want to take it to the senators. I want to take it to
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the Congress. I want to take the fight to them. And at the end of the day, if they ain't gonna hear us,
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we burn them the f*** down. I'm one that talk real s***. I talk it in New York and I talk it in DC.
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The same way I f*** police up in New York, I f*** cops up here in DC. The same way I bust police
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in the head in New York, I bust police in the head in DC. Now, it's a lot of people and I'm gonna be
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honest. It's a lot of people that's on this front line. And one of the things that I always say,
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don't get on this f***ing front line if you ain't gonna f***ing fight. Don't get on this front line
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if you ain't gonna take no hit. Don't get on this front line when the police f***ing push up,
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you push back. If you're gonna be on this front line and them racist, nasty, punk f***ing police
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is pushing up, you push the f*** up. What you just heard there, none of that is free speech.
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That is terrorism, incitement. You want to talk about incitement, that's what incitement sounds
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like. And if we didn't have such a feckless and useless government, that person would have been
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arrested on the spot and would be headed to federal prison right now. Again, that is terrorism.
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And then there's this from CNN. We talked about the passive voice. Well, here you go. Here's their
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headline and caption on Twitter. It says, two Chicago police officers pulled over a person
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suspected of having a gun and all three ended up hospitalized with gunshot wounds, officials say.
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So, all three ended up hospitalized. How did that happen? Did bullets fall out of the sky
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randomly? How did they all end up with gunshot wounds? What do you mean they ended up? Well,
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it turns out, and you would have to read like five or six paragraphs into this article to see it,
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turns out the officers tried to pull the guy over because he's committing a crime, allegedly,
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and he shot them both. The suspect did. Then a third police officer rushed into the scene to save
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those officers and shot the suspect. That's what happened. But even in the reporting of a violent
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criminal shooting police, CNN has to find a way to make it seem like police at least share part of the
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blame, or maybe that no one is to blame. So, enemy of the people. Yes, these are, the CNN is,
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these are enemies of the people. It's perhaps one of the, maybe the truest thing that Trump has ever
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said in his life, describing the American media as an enemy of the people. I mean, they are,
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they're trying to get the American people, many American people killed. I mean, they want a race
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war. They want violence and chaos and murder in the street. It's what they want. I cannot think of any
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other way to explain this. I mean, when you can't even bring yourself to just, just straight up report
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violent criminal shoots police officers, you can't even do that.
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Number three, big shock over the weekend. Another big shock. It was a weekend of a lot of
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shocking events. None of them good, unfortunately. So, another one, it was announced that Chadwick
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Bozeman, who starred in Black Panther, also played Jackie Robinson, James Brown, played a, he had
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quite a, quite a filmography in a relatively short career. He has died of cancer, colon cancer.
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Apparently he was diagnosed back in, um, I think it was 2018 and he never, I believe he never told
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anyone publicly about his diagnosis. And he went on making movies and, and, uh, and doing press,
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visiting sick children in a hospital, uh, you know, carrying on being a public figure, a celebrity
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without ever letting on that he was dying of cancer, which is a really remarkable thing. I think it's a
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great example of, um, of courage and dignity. Um, and it reminds me of a story when I, when I read
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about this, I immediately thought of a story that I think I've mentioned before in the Gulag
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Archipelago, Solzhenitsyn's book about the Soviet, um, labor camp system. And one story he tells,
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he tells a lot of stories that really stick out, but, but one in particular about, um, a guy who's,
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who's, uh, in one of these prison camps scheduled to be executed. Uh, but he convinces the guards to
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let his wife visit. So you can see his wife one last time before he's killed. But the deal is that
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he's not allowed to tell his wife that he's going to be executed. So he can spend a couple of days
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with her, but he can't tell her anything and probably telling her would, would put her own
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life in jeopardy. So he spends a weekend with her, you know, and, uh, he never lets on and she never
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suspects anything. And then as soon as she leaves, they take him before the firing squad. So this is,
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you know, a similar kind of thing, a man facing down his own mortality, experiencing presumably an
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incredible amount of inner anguish and grief and fear and panic and everything yet carrying on with
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dignity and, and, uh, in quiet resolve. So heartbreaking, but a great example, um, for us all
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let's go. Number four, I regret to inform you my friends that Michelle Obama, a former first lady,
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wealthy, powerful, admired, loved, famous is nonetheless oppressed and she's oppressed by you. It turns out.
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So, uh, you know, shame on you for oppressing someone who's a hundred times richer and more
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powerful than you. How dare you? In a recent podcast, the former first lady, according to the
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New York post, this is what she said, telling her tale of oppression. She says, what I've been
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completely incognito during the eight years in the white house, walking the dogs on the canal,
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people will come up and pet my dogs, but will not look me in the eye. They don't know it's me.
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What white folks don't understand is like that. It's, it's like that is so telling of how white
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America views people who are not like them. You know, we don't exist. And when we do exist,
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we exist as a threat. And that's exhausting. What the white community doesn't understand about
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being a person of color in this nation is that there are daily slights in our workplaces where
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people talk over you or people don't even see you. Uh, and then later on, she says, we were
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stopping to get ice cream and I hadn't told the secret service to stand back because we were trying
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to be normal, trying to go in. When I'm just a black woman, I noticed that white people don't even see
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me. I'm standing there with two black, little black girls, another black female adult. They're
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in soccer uniforms and a white woman cuts right in front of us. Like she didn't even see us. The
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girl behind the counter almost took the order and I had to stand up and was like, well, I'm not going
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to cause a scene with Michelle Obama. Um, she continued. So I stepped up and said, I don't know
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what that means. Anyway, she said, I stepped up and said, excuse me. Uh, you don't see us four people
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standing right here. You just jumped in line. Obama said the woman didn't apologize. She never looked me in
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the eye. She didn't know it was me. Uh, all she saw was a black person or a group of black people,
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or maybe she didn't even see that because we were that invisible. Okay. You know, perhaps it never
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has occurred to Michelle that, um, actually she's in no position, uh, to tell other groups of people
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what they do and don't understand. She says this about three times in this one, you know,
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in, in, in two minutes of talking, she's about three times. She's what white people don't understand
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what you white people don't realize. It's pretty disturbing that this woman and her husband
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were in charge of the country and had this attitude about, you know, about a vast majority
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of the American population based on this. She has a very low opinion of white people and, you know,
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a white person cuts in front of her immediately assumes it's racist. So how the hell do you know
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what other people are thinking or feeling, Michelle? How do you know? Who are you to go around saying
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this? You have no freaking idea what other people are doing and what their motivations are or what's
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going on in their head. Who are you to assume that? She just prattles off, you know, a dozen things
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that white people think and don't think and do and don't do. She's doing exactly what she accuses
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white people doing to her by not letting them exist and be real and be their own people and
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speak for themselves. No, she's going to speak for them. Um, the arrogance of that is just, I mean,
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it's off the Richter scale. It's one of the most arrogant people in the country is, is Michelle
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Obama. And I'm not just saying that based on, on only this, this is, this is part of a pattern
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with her. Meanwhile, the traumatic experiences that she recounts getting cut, you know, cut in front of
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in line, people not being overly friendly, uh, getting talked over. That happens to everyone,
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Michelle. That's a normal thing for people. It happens to me. It happens to every person on earth.
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That is an utterly normal part of life for everyone. Okay. We all deal with that. All of us.
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I could tell you stories of having people cut in front of me in line. It's happened to me. I guarantee
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you that, you know what I didn't do though. I didn't assume that the person doing it was,
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it was a bigot or I didn't make these, these damning assumptions about their entire life and
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existence and everything based on that. I assume that they either just didn't see me because they
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weren't paying attention. They're up in their own head. Uh, and it's nothing racial or bigoted at all
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or worst case scenario. I assume that, you know, in this moment, this person's acting like kind of a
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jerk. It doesn't mean that they're a horrible person elsewhere. I've done it myself. I bet you
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have too, Michelle. I bet there've been times when you've cut in front of people knowingly or unknowingly.
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So we all deal with that. Okay. All of us, all of that stuff. Oh, I got talked over
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at that happens to everyone. It is so normal. I, it's not, we don't like it. It's not fun.
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It's annoying. It is so normal though. I, I, I can't stress this enough. It just happens to
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everyone all the time. It really does. I promise you that. And, and, and rather than making assumptions
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about entire races of people and telling white people what they do and don't experience, why
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don't you ask them? You know, why don't you, why don't you let them speak for themselves
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and tell you what they experience? So you have something that happens to you every once in a while,
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you get cut in front of in line, someone talks over you rather than assuming, Oh, this never
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happens to any, anyone of that race. Maybe ask them, Oh, does this happen to you guys? And if
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they tell you, yes, then just take them at their word. Um, but here, here's the deal. Michelle Obama,
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you know, she said she's pretending she wants to be treated just like everybody else. No,
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she wants the opposite. She doesn't want, she's offended that she was treated like everybody else.
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She doesn't want that. She's offended not to be treated differently under the guise of being,
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of being offended that she was treated differently. That's what this is really about. That's what this
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is always about. I mean, with this, with this kind of thing. Um, okay. So especially when it's a
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privileged, rich, powerful, wealthy person claiming that they're being oppressed, uh, in 99 times out of
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a hundred, what they're really going to be offended about when you get down into it is just that they,
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you know, God forbid got treated like a normal person once. Okay. Number five, the VMAs were last
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night. I somehow completely missed that. Uh, they were on, I usually watch all the VMAs. I'm a big
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fan. I, you know, I host a watch party, uh, usually, uh, when the VMAs are on, we all wear our pajamas
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and dance to the, to the songs. Um, it's a fun time. In any case, the Hollywood reporter has the
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recap. Uh, first of all, there's a picture of lady Gaga accepting her award for her performance
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in the latest, uh, power Rangers film. It looks like she does look, she looks like a villain for
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power Rangers. Doesn't she a little bit, or maybe mortal combat. Um, anyway, the, the Hollywood
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reporter says Kiki Palmer hosted the show, which aired Sunday night, the weekend, one video of the
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year for blinding lights at Sundays. Actually it's spelled. I think it's misspelled because it's
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missing an E for the weekend. It's really spelled weakened, the weakened, uh, one video of the
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year. Other winners Sunday night included lady Gaga and Ariana Grande, uh, BTS, Taylor Swift,
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H-E-R, Maluma, Machine Gun Kelly, and Megan Thee Stallion. I don't know who any of these people
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are. I know Taylor Swift and lady Gaga. Those, those two, I know, uh, Grande. She's the one who
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licked the donut. She's the donut lickers. I know her H-E-R and Maluma. What?
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Um, they, they, they, they sound like, uh, skin conditions a little bit. Gaga's other wins
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included artists of the year and song of the year for rain on me, her collaboration with
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Ariana Grande. Uh, the weekend also won best R and B. Um, Kiki Palmer hosted the show, blah,
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blah, blah. I'm just, I see if there's any big, okay, here we go. Later on in the show, Palmer
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showed off her comedic chops by portraying her alter egos, including one she's featured on her
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TikTok while visiting different spots in New York, such as the Bronx zoo, where she, uh,
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could see the quote, the cats from the WAP video. I guess that's supposed to be a joke.
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That's her showing off her comedic chops. Uh, Palmer encounters her Southern bell alter ego,
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lady miss. At one point she jokes, you're cattier than Carol Baskin. Oh man, this is bad.
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You're cattier than Carol Baskin. That was actually a joke that made it into this professional
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production. Oh man. I, I, I, you know, I, I went, when I was in seventh grade, my school had a talent
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show and there was like an 11 year old who got up and did a standup performance and all of his
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material was way better than your cattier than Carol Baskin. So unfortunately I, I, um, I'm sad.
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I missed that show. We all, we all missed it. Um, you might say there are more important things
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going on in the world. I don't know. Like for example, our daily cancellation, which we will get
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to now. Sadly, this afternoon, I must cancel Sarah Ramirez. She is evidently an actress, uh,
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best known for her role on Grey's Anatomy. The reason I have to cancel Sarah today is because
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of a recent post on Instagram where she came out as non-binary. Now you might ask what does coming
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out as non-binary mean? The answer is that it doesn't mean anything because non-binary is not
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a thing. Unfortunately, um, there is a binary and it's not possible to not be a part of it.
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The binary broadly speaking breaks down like this. Okay. Um, in one camp you have people who can get
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pregnant. In the other camp, you have people who can get the people in the first camp pregnant,
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pregnant and pregnator. You might say, not the most eloquent way of putting it, but that's what it is.
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And there's your binary. Okay. You can call people in these camps, whatever you want,
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call them team A and team B. You can make up some names like, I don't know, snagglespiffs and
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galley wags. It sounds a little bit like Harry Potter characters, but whatever. Or, you know,
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you could even use names like, I don't know, women and men. Um, the name doesn't matter. It's
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the function and the biology that matters. Yes. I can already hear your objection. You are,
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you are right now shouting. I know you're saying, what about women who can't get pregnant? Huh?
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Bet you never thought of them. Checkmate loser. And then you take a sip of your kombucha confident
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that you've just debunked biology by pointing out that infertile women exist, but you haven't,
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I assure you infertile women don't invalidate the statement that women can get pregnant any more than
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a man who loses an arm in a wood chipper accident invalidates the statement that humans have two
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arms. His accident doesn't mean that humans don't have two arms or that we must now entertain the
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possibility that there might be humans out there with eight arms and 12 legs and 46 heads. It just
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means he's supposed to have two arms, but the wood chipper had other ideas. Okay. In a similar way,
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infertile women are that way either because they're older and their time of fertility has passed or
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because something went wrong, illness, mutation, deformity, injury, surgery, some known thing
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interceded and deprived this woman of that function. But we know that she's supposed to have it like the
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man with the one arm is supposed to have two. This is not a problem for the binary. On the contrary,
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this is what's known as an exception that proves the rule. Okay. So that's the binary. Now,
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all of that said, let's check in with Sarah Ramirez reading from one of my favorite news
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organizations, LGBTQ nation. Uh, it says Sarah Ramirez, the actor who played the bisexual character
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Callie Torres on the medical drama TV series, Grey's Anatomy came out as non-binary in an August 27,
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Instagram post. The post which showed Ramirez with a crop top haircut was captioned,
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new profile pic in me is the capacity to be girlish boy, boyish girl, boyish boy, girlish girl,
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all neither hashtag non-binary. All right. Now, hang on. First of all, it's just a haircut. Relax.
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Okay. She, she got a haircut. Now she thinks she's a shape shifter. This is like, it's like if I spiked
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my hair up and went, behold, I am a trans dimensional being unbound by the laws of gravity. I am God.
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Look upon me and weep ye mortals. You see my haircut. You can't get superpowers for 19 bucks
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at sports clips is all I'm trying to say. Okay. Anyway, back to the article says Ramirez previously
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came out as bisexual in October, 2016 while making, um, remarks at the true colors United's 40 to none
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summit. Wait, so she came out twice. Can you do that? She's, is that a, well, okay. I guess it's a two
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different thing. Non-binary bisexual, uh, back to the article. It says at the time Ramirez said,
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and because of the intersections that exist in my own life, woman, multiracial woman, woman of color,
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queer, bisexual, Mexican, Irish, American immigrant, and raised by families heavily rooted in Catholicism
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on both my Mexican and Irish sides. I am deeply invested in projects that allow our youth's voices
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to be heard and that support our youth in owning their own complex narratives so that we can show
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up for them in the ways they need us to. Uh, and says Ramirez who has been married to her husband,
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Ryan DeBolt since 2011 is a member of the true colors fund board of directors and blah, blah,
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blah. Okay. Uh, first of all, you, you notice how her, the intersections she lists are completely
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redundant. She lists woman three times, queer and bisexual is two different things and multiracial
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and woman of color as two separate things and Mexican and immigrant as two separate things.
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She's, she's throwing 50 yard bombs and garbage time. Basically she's padding the stats. Okay.
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Um, this is a person desperate to be seen as interesting and different, but like so many
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people today, she's convinced that the only way to do that is to get yourself into as many
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demographic categories as possible. Now, if we were going to psychoanalyze all of this,
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there are many directions we could go. Um, it would be a long and winding and rather terrifying journey,
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I suspect, but I want to focus on just this one thing, this, this business about being non-binary.
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Um, as she says, a boy, a girl, both and neither. That of course makes no sense whatsoever. You
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cannot be something and be another thing that's fundamentally different and be both and be none
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of them all at once. You might as well claim that you're standing on the earth and the surface of the
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sun at the same time. It is nonsensical objectively, but, um, what's going on here really though,
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you know, why do people make these claims about themselves? I think the answer or part of the
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answer is this, Sarah Ramirez isn't so much observing something about herself. She is rather
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making assumptions about other people. Okay. Kind of like what Michelle Obama was doing.
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And I'll explain more what I mean, because it strikes me that when, when people do this,
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especially when celebrities come out and say, Oh, I am just so complicated. My inner life is so
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interesting and unique. My experiences are so profound. I cannot be defined by the labels that
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the rest of you use. No, no, I, I am so many things. And yet none of those things. I am like a work of
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abstract art. I am a walking poem. A song in the wind is my existence. And they go on and on and on.
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Um, and then they actually explain in more detail what they mean and why they have come to this
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conclusion that they belong to a whole new category of human existence, non-binary or whatever other
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label they want. When you listen to their description of their inner experience, you think,
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wait a second, that's just, that's just being a person. That's pretty normal. The categories and
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labels and jargon are different and bizarre and sound kind of crazy, but the actual experiences
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underneath it, that's not special at all. These people are extraordinarily narcissistic.
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You have to understand, especially celebrities. And so they have normal human emotions and
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experiences and assume that the average person must not experience any of this themselves,
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that they must be going through something that is just far beyond the emotional and psychological
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reaches of the plebe on the street. They, you know, they, they must be, and they must be making
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this assumption. Otherwise, how would they know that the label of woman doesn't accurately describe
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them? How do they know that all women don't have the same sorts of emotions and experiences they do?
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How do they know that what they're feeling isn't just what women, women feel? They assume that it's
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different. And that assumption must be born at least in part by extreme arrogance. So you're a woman
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with some traditionally masculine interests and tendencies. So what? That's not special at all. And it
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doesn't make you not a woman. That just makes you a woman. That's part of being a woman, a person,
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a human. We don't need a new category for you. It doesn't make you a woman and a man and none and
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all together. The most feminine women in the world have masculine aspects of their personality. My wife,
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for instance, very feminine, very good at traditionally feminine things like decorating,
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for example. But if you pour her three fingers of a hundred proof whiskey, she'll guzzle that thing
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straight. No problem. She built her own barn for the chickens. I helped in fairness, but still she
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knows how to bait a hook. You know, I could go on. Does that mean that she's not a woman? She's
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non-binary. She's a man, a woman, both and neither. No, she's just a woman, but she's a woman with some
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unique and interesting traits and facets to her personality. Indeed, what makes the thing about the
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whiskey kind of funny and cool is precisely that she's a woman. You know, I can hold my liquor too,
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but nobody cares about that. I'm a man. It's expected. What allows it to be different, what
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allows us to be different and develop our own identity and personality are the ways that we put
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our own spin on the categories we naturally belong to. In the same way, we all belong to the category of
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human being, right? And because of that, if any one of us ever figures out how to fly without
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mechanical assistance, that's going to be a pretty big deal. If we were birds, it wouldn't be. And if
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you do ever start flying, that wouldn't make you a bird. If it did, then this utterly fascinating
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gobsmacking thing about you would suddenly be rote and routine. Again, what makes us interesting are the
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variations within the categories. If you deny the categories or experience variation and decide that
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it means that you belong to the other category, you know, you're a man who has feminine tendencies in
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certain areas. So you decide that you are in fact, a woman. If you do that, then you actually lose
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what made you interesting. You lose your uniqueness. Gender is binary because of biology. As I explained
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at the beginning, nothing you can ever do or feel will change that. You are a man or a woman, a he or
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her. You are not both. You are not one than the other. You are not neither. You are not a they.
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Um, and it takes, I suppose, some measure of basic humility to admit that and submit yourself to that
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reality, which imposes itself on you, whether you like it or not anyway. But that doesn't mean you have to
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live a cookie cutter existence or think and act just like everybody else on your side of the binary. If you're a
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woman, be whatever kind of woman you want, wear whatever you want, get whatever sort of haircut you want. The
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high top fade on a woman doesn't do much for me personally, but hey, it's your head. Do what you
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want. Um, live how you want. Think what you want. That's not to say that every choice we make is going
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to be equally good, healthy, and moral. But the point is simply that you have a lot of freedom as a woman
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to be the sort of woman you want to be. You just don't have the freedom to be not a woman. And that's
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okay. In fact, there's a lot of freedom in accepting that. But for now, Sarah Ramirez does belong to a new
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category of existence, an ever-growing category. That would be the category of canceled by me.
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And that's it for the show. Thanks for watching, everybody. Thanks for listening. Have a great day.
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