The Matt Walsh Show - August 31, 2020


Ep. 554 - We Have Made It Impossible For Police Officers To Do Their Jobs


Episode Stats

Length

44 minutes

Words per Minute

189.17021

Word Count

8,353

Sentence Count

593

Misogynist Sentences

29

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

Is it even possible to be a police officer in America today when even shooting a knife-wielding suspected rapist and serial abuser causes protests and riots? Also, five headlines including the apparent execution of a Trump supporter in Portland and Joe Biden s incredible moral cowardice in the face of escalating violence. And in our daily cancellation, we will cancel the latest celebrity to come out as non-binary, whatever that means exactly.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, is it even possible to be a police officer in America today when even
00:00:04.420 shooting a knife-wielding suspected rapist and serial abuser causes protests and riots?
00:00:09.660 Also, five headlines including the apparent execution murder of a Trump supporter in Portland
00:00:13.660 and Joe Biden's incredible moral cowardice in the face of this escalating violence.
00:00:19.460 And in our daily cancellation, we will cancel the latest celebrity to come out as
00:00:22.680 non-binary, whatever that's supposed to mean exactly. That and much more to discuss today,
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00:02:20.540 force. One day, call comes in, domestic disturbance. A woman is contacted 911 because her ex-boyfriend
00:02:26.560 is at her house, is not supposed to be there. She's scared. He's stolen her keys, wants to take
00:02:32.060 her vehicle. He's wanted for sexual assault and domestic abuse. There's a warrant for his arrest.
00:02:37.520 When you pull up in your police cruiser, you quickly notice the knife in his hand. You try to
00:02:43.880 de-escalate the situation with words, reasoning with him. He's in no mood to be reasoned with.
00:02:48.960 Then you try to take control of the situation physically, but he fights back, puts you in a
00:02:54.200 headlock. You deploy your taser. It has no effect. Another taser. Again, no effect. Then he starts moving
00:03:00.140 towards the vehicle. Is he going to grab a gun? Is he going to steal the car and drive away? Is he going
00:03:04.620 to take it and run you or the woman over? There are kids inside. Will they become hostages? Will
00:03:10.860 they get injured in a car chase? Will he kill them? These possibilities all race through your
00:03:15.680 head in the span of five seconds, maybe less. You don't have time to deliberate. The man has
00:03:20.160 made his choice, and all you can do is respond to it. So you yell for him to stop. He doesn't listen.
00:03:26.560 You yell again. Your gun is pointed right at him. He doesn't care. He opens the door. You grab him.
00:03:31.700 He makes a move to climb inside or reach for something. You're out of time. You shoot.
00:03:38.060 Let's try another scenario. You're not a police officer. In fact, you don't have any job at all,
00:03:44.040 nor do you have a car. Sometimes you take your ex-girlfriends without permission.
00:03:48.720 One morning, you're angry at her, so you break into her house while she's sleeping. You go into a room,
00:03:54.160 and you sexually assault her just to make a point. She's scared. She's crying. You've seen her like
00:04:01.540 this before all the other times that you've abused and beaten her through the years, usually when
00:04:05.620 you're drinking. You leave her like that. You exit the room. You steal her keys and her debit card.
00:04:10.500 You drive away in her vehicle. You stop at the ATM and take out some money on her card. She calls the
00:04:15.600 cops. Eventually, a warrant is issued for your arrest. Fast forward a month or two. You go to her house
00:04:21.240 again. She tells you to leave. You refuse. You take your keys from her. At some point, you draw a
00:04:26.960 knife. The cops show up. You assault them, too. You refuse to go with them, even after two zaps from
00:04:33.060 the taser. You escape their grasp. You start moving towards the car. They draw their guns, point them at
00:04:38.320 you, screaming. You keep moving. You open the door. One officer is pulling at your shirt. You keep moving.
00:04:46.020 You wake up in a hospital bed. You cannot feel your legs.
00:04:48.980 Now, those are the two scenarios. Two people, same situation. Which of these people did you find most
00:04:58.820 relatable? Whose actions can you more readily understand? Who made choices that you could see
00:05:04.920 yourself possibly making in a similar situation? If you had to launch a moral or logical defense of
00:05:11.280 either person, which would you choose? Now, far be it for me to make assumptions about you, but I would
00:05:16.900 certainly hope and guess that you can relate to, defend, and understand the first man, the police
00:05:22.640 officer. The second man has his reasons, I guess, for the way he acts, but they cannot possibly be
00:05:27.620 good reasons, and his behavior is not defensible or, for decent people, understandable on any level
00:05:33.640 at all. And yet, in this upside-down world in which we live, it is the second man who gains all of the
00:05:40.620 sympathy. It is his name that's cried out in grief and mourning. It is for him that every professional
00:05:46.620 sports league in the country speaks out in solidarity. It is his name that ends up on the
00:05:50.680 murals and the poster boards and the t-shirts. The other man's name, the police officer, who made
00:05:55.020 choices and behaved in a way that every decent and rational human on earth, if they were to stop to
00:06:00.660 think about it for two seconds, would at least find comprehensible, perhaps even admirable,
00:06:05.220 is anathema. He is cast in the role of villain, the dastardly foil to our hero, who also happens
00:06:12.760 to be a serial abuser and rapist, at least if the allegations are true. Now, granted, some of the
00:06:19.740 scenario, as I have described it here, is technically speculative, but it's a scenario that emerges very
00:06:25.340 clearly from a combination of the video, the police scanner audio, the criminal complaint filed
00:06:29.280 against Jacob Blake, stemming from his alleged sexual assault of his ex-girlfriend in May of this year,
00:06:34.680 and the testimony of the Kenosha Police Union. The other scenario, the first one we were given,
00:06:40.280 and the one that the media would still like for us to believe, that Blake is a family man and a
00:06:45.000 good Samaritan randomly gunned down by a racist cop for the crime of breaking up a fight between two
00:06:50.920 women, has absolutely no credible evidence of any kind to support it. All of the evidence points to
00:06:58.520 what I have just described. And the allegation of the sexual assault is just that, an allegation,
00:07:03.680 but it was made by a woman who called 911 on the day of the alleged crime, and trembled with fear
00:07:09.020 as she recounted what had happened to her. There is just no good reason to doubt her.
00:07:16.820 The point is that, from everything we know, and in light of all of the credible evidence,
00:07:23.060 and I am counting, by the way, I'm counting as decidedly not credible, the supposed eyewitnesses
00:07:28.080 who initially claimed that Blake wasn't behaving aggressively at all, even though he had a knife,
00:07:32.180 and he had a cop and a headlock, and only took his girlfriend's keys and went to her car with
00:07:36.120 guns trained on him so he could check on his kids. That's what one of the eyewitnesses said.
00:07:40.920 So I am counting that as not credible, but in light of all the credible evidence,
00:07:45.940 the police officers were responding to a situation entirely of Jacob Blake's own making,
00:07:51.460 and doing what they could to protect all of the innocent lives involved, including their own.
00:07:56.980 There is, at this juncture, no reasonably plausible version of the story that vindicates Jacob Blake,
00:08:02.160 and yet, again, he is lionized and canonized and mourned over,
00:08:06.360 while the officers are castigated as attempted murderers and racists.
00:08:10.700 And those accusations rain down from some of the most visible and powerful perches in society.
00:08:15.280 In other words, it's the same old story playing out again and again and again and again.
00:08:21.720 How is it even possible to be a police officer in this environment?
00:08:26.460 Because the moment a suspect, a non-white suspect,
00:08:29.640 resists arrest or goes for a gun or tries to kill you or someone else, you lose, no matter what.
00:08:34.980 You go to work every day to serve communities that despise you.
00:08:39.080 You risk your life for people who wouldn't dump a bucket of water on you to put out the flames if you
00:08:43.160 were on fire. In fact, they probably set the fire.
00:08:46.180 In the most intense and life-threatening situations, you are left with no room for error.
00:08:51.340 Even if you don't make an error, the video that somebody captures and cuts and clips and posts
00:08:55.620 online may make it seem like you did. If you end up in a fight for your life against a violent
00:09:00.700 sociopath, you may go to prison for winning it.
00:09:05.700 The people gathered around to watch and film the incident will almost certainly lie about what
00:09:10.060 happened. They will inexplicably defend the sociopath and call for your head on a platter.
00:09:15.780 They will say that they live in fear for their life every day because of you.
00:09:20.440 But it's the sociopath and people like him who are responsible for almost all of the killing and
00:09:25.120 violence in their community. And yet its members will choose him over you, like the crowds shouting
00:09:30.800 for Pilate to release Barabbas. And if he dies, they will mourn the loss of a man whose absence
00:09:36.380 makes them all safer. This attitude is not confined to any town or city. It's fostered
00:09:42.220 at the highest levels of society. Powerful politicians and athletes and celebrities are
00:09:46.500 all dedicated to a narrative that is completely disconnected from reality. And if you're a police
00:09:51.800 officer, they tell lies about you and your line of work constantly, and they don't care
00:09:56.660 if those lies get you killed. And while your worst and most difficult moments are broadcast
00:10:02.140 to the entire world and dissected by idiots and charlatans who've never in their lives
00:10:06.300 faced a situation as volatile as the kind you encounter every day, your triumphs are ignored.
00:10:12.800 For example, law enforcement officers in Georgia just completed a two-week operation that successfully
00:10:17.940 recovered 39 missing children, 15 of whom were being sex trafficked. This news was covered in a
00:10:23.400 perfunctory way because it had to be, but it was not plastered all over the headlines or shouted from
00:10:28.060 the rooftops. Only your mistakes or things that can be made to look like mistakes get that kind of
00:10:34.000 treatment. It seems impossible to deal with this, and yet thousands of police officers do deal with
00:10:41.620 it every day by choice. This doesn't mean that police officers are always right or that injustice at the
00:10:47.560 hands of law enforcement never happens or that we should adopt an uncritical attitude towards agents
00:10:52.860 of the state. Far from it. But they are doing a job that society needs done, and one that is only made
00:10:59.540 more difficult by the day. So I figure I owe them the respect of at least listening to their side of the
00:11:07.060 story and trying to see it from their perspective and considering all of the factors in the entire
00:11:12.780 context before labeling them bullies or murderers for the choices they make in situations I have never
00:11:18.540 encountered while doing a job I rely on, but would never want to do myself, especially these days.
00:11:27.140 Let's go to five headlines.
00:11:34.560 Well, we begin, of course, with the Trump supporter in Portland apparently executed in cold
00:11:38.480 blunt on Sunday, Saturday, that is. A caravan of Trump supporters and Blue Lives Matter supporters
00:11:44.200 went into Portland to counter-demonstrate. Much has been made of the fact that they were
00:11:48.120 shooting paintballs at the BLM and Antifa people using pepper spray in some cases, and that's true,
00:11:53.760 but every video I've seen of the paintball and pepper spray being deployed begins with someone
00:11:59.960 in the Antifa slash BLM crowd throwing something at them or using some other weapon against them.
00:12:04.440 So in any case, it was a volatile environment. And then the shooting. The victim's name is Aaron
00:12:09.960 Danielson. The man police are investigating for the killing is Michael Forrest Rinal.
00:12:14.320 A few pieces of footage have emerged from this. None of them very clear. The first shows in the
00:12:23.580 distance, in the dark, one man walk up to another, and then you see the gun go off and the guy who
00:12:29.240 pulled the trigger runs in the other direction. It does not appear at all to be self-defense in that
00:12:34.500 video. It appears to be execution, plain and simple. But the most revealing video is actually
00:12:39.740 one that doesn't show the shooting at all. Instead, it's what you hear that matters. So I'm going to
00:12:45.140 play that for you now. And again, you're not going to be able to really see anything. It doesn't
00:12:49.100 matter what you see. Just, just listen, listen for the words that you hear.
00:12:58.360 Yeah, that is one of the most chilling videos I've ever seen. And it doesn't even show the shooting.
00:13:19.080 itself. You can clearly hear someone say, Hey, we've got another one here. We've got another
00:13:23.880 one. We've got another one here. We've got someone right here. And then, and then someone else says
00:13:27.760 right here. And then bang, bang, you hear the guns. Um, by all indications, they targeted this man
00:13:34.680 and executed him in cold blood, first degree murder and political terrorism. Um, and you know,
00:13:40.740 the guy who did it should be, should be, this should be federal charges, ship them off to Guantanamo
00:13:46.480 Bay. As far as I'm concerned, uh, he is a, not only a murderer, but a terrorist. This is an act of
00:13:51.160 terrorism. Now, needless to say the leftists who are apoplectic about Kyle Rittenhouse, in spite of
00:13:58.260 the fact that it appeared in his case to actually be self-defense, they couldn't find it in themselves
00:14:02.440 to condemn this, this political execution with nearly the same fervor or, or really condemn it
00:14:08.460 at all. In a lot of cases. Um, this includes, of course, the rotting cucumber of a mayor, Ted Wheeler,
00:14:13.840 who spent more time in his press conference yesterday, condemning Donald Trump than the
00:14:18.780 actual guy who pulled the trigger. And also Joe Biden, who issued a statement that really flies in
00:14:23.760 the face of all the stuff we hear about him being a decent guy and just a wonderful guy.
00:14:27.560 The, the, the Democrat convention was just four days of what a wonderful, great guy he is. What
00:14:32.140 here are his, his, his favorite ice cream toppings. What a great guy he is. Um, well, you see not just
00:14:38.500 in this, but you see, uh, illustrated in this statement, which I'll read you in a second, the
00:14:42.840 fact that Joe Biden is among other things, an incredible moral coward. So let me play this for
00:14:48.960 or not play it. Uh, let me read it for you. In fact, here's the statement from Joe Biden.
00:14:53.400 Uh, and this statement, by the way, of course, is being praised by the media as being a, just a
00:14:58.680 wonderful, wonderful statement, very calming and all of that great leadership here. Well, you tell me
00:15:03.740 what you think. The deadly violence we saw overnight in Portland is unacceptable. Shooting in the streets
00:15:08.940 of a great American city is unacceptable. Oh, he called it, well, it's unacceptable. Great. Okay. Well,
00:15:13.520 that's a strong condemnation, isn't it? Yes. Um, uh, walking up to a guy and executing him on the
00:15:19.340 street is unacceptable. I condemn this violence unequivocally. I condemn violence of every kind
00:15:25.380 by anyone, whether on the left or right. And I challenged Donald Trump to do the same. It does
00:15:29.760 not matter if you find the political views of your opponents abhorrent. Any loss of life is a
00:15:33.560 tragedy. Today, there is another family grieving in America and Jill and I offer our deepest condolences.
00:15:38.220 We must not become a country at war with ourselves, a country that accepts the killing of fellow
00:15:41.920 Americans who do not agree with you, a country that vows vengeance towards one another. But this is the
00:15:46.340 America that president Trump wants us to be the America he believes we are as a country. We must
00:15:49.820 condemn the incitement of hate and resentment that led to this deadly clash. Listen to that part.
00:15:53.720 Let me read it again. As a country, we must condemn the incitement of hate and resentment that led to
00:15:58.980 this deadly clash. It is not a peaceful protest when you go out spoiling for a fight. Who does president
00:16:07.840 Trump, what does president Trump think will happen when he continues to insist on fanning the flames of
00:16:11.780 hate and division in our society and using the politics of fear to whip up his supporters. He is
00:16:16.320 recklessly encouraging the violence. Uh, and then he goes on a little bit more,
00:16:20.240 uh, attack. It just, the rest of it is just attacking president Trump. Okay. So he spends
00:16:26.400 most of this, um, condemning president Trump there. There is, I don't, I don't think there is even in
00:16:32.260 this statement really a clear and very specific and harsh condemnation of the killing itself.
00:16:38.060 He calls it unacceptable, but he does it in the, he he's using a passive voice,
00:16:42.580 which is a common trick that leftists are pulling now. And we'll get, we'll get to another
00:16:46.760 example of that in just a second, but he's using a passive voice and he's kind of speaking in general
00:16:50.940 to a deadly, a clash, a deadly clash. This wasn't a clash. It wasn't a dead, the deadly moment was not
00:16:57.520 a clash. This was just a guy walking down the street and he was shot in the head. Uh, it's not a
00:17:01.540 clash. That's, that's murder. And, uh, and, but he's condemning the incitement and hate and resentment
00:17:07.860 that led to this. Now, yeah, I agree that there's a lot of incitement and hate and resentment leading
00:17:14.360 to this, but that's happening from BLM and Antifa and Democrats. And I know that, you know, uh, I
00:17:20.200 basically just said the same thing three times. Sorry for the redundancy that's happening from them,
00:17:24.200 but that's not what he means. He's saying the people that were there were inciting the hatred and,
00:17:29.920 and, uh, and, and resentment. So this is, this is victim blaming on top of it. Um, at a minimum,
00:17:38.180 this is moral cowardice from Joe Biden, who just, I'm sorry, is not the great decent guy,
00:17:43.820 uh, that they make him out to be. I wish he was, I really wish he was, but he's not. Um,
00:17:51.660 number two, since we're on the subject of the impossibility of policing these days,
00:17:55.120 here are a few exhibits to present for your consideration. Uh, not that you need any more.
00:17:59.140 We've seen a lot, but just some, some of the latest, okay. On that topic. First,
00:18:03.160 this is a BLM leader in DC openly calling for police and other public officials to be murdered.
00:18:08.760 And this is being said into a megaphone in the middle of the city. Um, and, uh, anyway,
00:18:14.620 take a listen.
00:18:15.100 I'm at the point where I'm ready to put these police in the grave. I'm at the point where
00:18:22.640 I want to burn the white house down. I want to take it to the senators. I want to take it to
00:18:32.020 the Congress. I want to take the fight to them. And at the end of the day, if they ain't gonna hear us,
00:18:41.240 we burn them the f*** down. I'm one that talk real s***. I talk it in New York and I talk it in DC.
00:18:52.020 The same way I f*** police up in New York, I f*** cops up here in DC. The same way I bust police
00:19:00.900 in the head in New York, I bust police in the head in DC. Now, it's a lot of people and I'm gonna be
00:19:09.460 honest. It's a lot of people that's on this front line. And one of the things that I always say,
00:19:15.340 don't get on this f***ing front line if you ain't gonna f***ing fight. Don't get on this front line
00:19:21.180 if you ain't gonna take no hit. Don't get on this front line when the police f***ing push up,
00:19:26.520 you push back. If you're gonna be on this front line and them racist, nasty, punk f***ing police
00:19:35.340 is pushing up, you push the f*** up. What you just heard there, none of that is free speech.
00:19:42.320 That is terrorism, incitement. You want to talk about incitement, that's what incitement sounds
00:19:46.880 like. And if we didn't have such a feckless and useless government, that person would have been
00:19:52.740 arrested on the spot and would be headed to federal prison right now. Again, that is terrorism.
00:19:58.280 And then there's this from CNN. We talked about the passive voice. Well, here you go. Here's their
00:20:02.400 headline and caption on Twitter. It says, two Chicago police officers pulled over a person
00:20:06.360 suspected of having a gun and all three ended up hospitalized with gunshot wounds, officials say.
00:20:12.760 So, all three ended up hospitalized. How did that happen? Did bullets fall out of the sky
00:20:19.080 randomly? How did they all end up with gunshot wounds? What do you mean they ended up? Well,
00:20:25.100 it turns out, and you would have to read like five or six paragraphs into this article to see it,
00:20:29.320 turns out the officers tried to pull the guy over because he's committing a crime, allegedly,
00:20:33.460 and he shot them both. The suspect did. Then a third police officer rushed into the scene to save
00:20:38.660 those officers and shot the suspect. That's what happened. But even in the reporting of a violent
00:20:45.100 criminal shooting police, CNN has to find a way to make it seem like police at least share part of the
00:20:52.080 blame, or maybe that no one is to blame. So, enemy of the people. Yes, these are, the CNN is,
00:20:58.440 these are enemies of the people. It's perhaps one of the, maybe the truest thing that Trump has ever
00:21:03.400 said in his life, describing the American media as an enemy of the people. I mean, they are,
00:21:08.580 they're trying to get the American people, many American people killed. I mean, they want a race
00:21:15.020 war. They want violence and chaos and murder in the street. It's what they want. I cannot think of any
00:21:20.200 other way to explain this. I mean, when you can't even bring yourself to just, just straight up report
00:21:28.940 violent criminal shoots police officers, you can't even do that.
00:21:34.040 Number three, big shock over the weekend. Another big shock. It was a weekend of a lot of
00:21:41.320 shocking events. None of them good, unfortunately. So, another one, it was announced that Chadwick
00:21:46.020 Bozeman, who starred in Black Panther, also played Jackie Robinson, James Brown, played a, he had
00:21:50.500 quite a, quite a filmography in a relatively short career. He has died of cancer, colon cancer.
00:21:56.700 Apparently he was diagnosed back in, um, I think it was 2018 and he never, I believe he never told
00:22:03.680 anyone publicly about his diagnosis. And he went on making movies and, and, uh, and doing press,
00:22:09.320 visiting sick children in a hospital, uh, you know, carrying on being a public figure, a celebrity
00:22:13.540 without ever letting on that he was dying of cancer, which is a really remarkable thing. I think it's a
00:22:18.560 great example of, um, of courage and dignity. Um, and it reminds me of a story when I, when I read
00:22:25.660 about this, I immediately thought of a story that I think I've mentioned before in the Gulag
00:22:29.460 Archipelago, Solzhenitsyn's book about the Soviet, um, labor camp system. And one story he tells,
00:22:37.500 he tells a lot of stories that really stick out, but, but one in particular about, um, a guy who's,
00:22:43.620 who's, uh, in one of these prison camps scheduled to be executed. Uh, but he convinces the guards to
00:22:51.660 let his wife visit. So you can see his wife one last time before he's killed. But the deal is that
00:22:57.240 he's not allowed to tell his wife that he's going to be executed. So he can spend a couple of days
00:23:02.160 with her, but he can't tell her anything and probably telling her would, would put her own
00:23:06.420 life in jeopardy. So he spends a weekend with her, you know, and, uh, he never lets on and she never
00:23:11.380 suspects anything. And then as soon as she leaves, they take him before the firing squad. So this is,
00:23:16.000 you know, a similar kind of thing, a man facing down his own mortality, experiencing presumably an
00:23:20.780 incredible amount of inner anguish and grief and fear and panic and everything yet carrying on with
00:23:25.980 dignity and, and, uh, in quiet resolve. So heartbreaking, but a great example, um, for us all
00:23:32.840 let's go. Number four, I regret to inform you my friends that Michelle Obama, a former first lady,
00:23:42.300 wealthy, powerful, admired, loved, famous is nonetheless oppressed and she's oppressed by you. It turns out.
00:23:49.840 So, uh, you know, shame on you for oppressing someone who's a hundred times richer and more
00:23:54.080 powerful than you. How dare you? In a recent podcast, the former first lady, according to the
00:23:59.080 New York post, this is what she said, telling her tale of oppression. She says, what I've been
00:24:04.360 completely incognito during the eight years in the white house, walking the dogs on the canal,
00:24:08.140 people will come up and pet my dogs, but will not look me in the eye. They don't know it's me.
00:24:12.520 What white folks don't understand is like that. It's, it's like that is so telling of how white
00:24:17.680 America views people who are not like them. You know, we don't exist. And when we do exist,
00:24:22.400 we exist as a threat. And that's exhausting. What the white community doesn't understand about
00:24:27.420 being a person of color in this nation is that there are daily slights in our workplaces where
00:24:31.240 people talk over you or people don't even see you. Uh, and then later on, she says, we were
00:24:35.820 stopping to get ice cream and I hadn't told the secret service to stand back because we were trying
00:24:39.640 to be normal, trying to go in. When I'm just a black woman, I noticed that white people don't even see
00:24:43.960 me. I'm standing there with two black, little black girls, another black female adult. They're
00:24:47.600 in soccer uniforms and a white woman cuts right in front of us. Like she didn't even see us. The
00:24:51.680 girl behind the counter almost took the order and I had to stand up and was like, well, I'm not going
00:24:55.560 to cause a scene with Michelle Obama. Um, she continued. So I stepped up and said, I don't know
00:25:01.580 what that means. Anyway, she said, I stepped up and said, excuse me. Uh, you don't see us four people
00:25:06.260 standing right here. You just jumped in line. Obama said the woman didn't apologize. She never looked me in
00:25:11.000 the eye. She didn't know it was me. Uh, all she saw was a black person or a group of black people,
00:25:15.960 or maybe she didn't even see that because we were that invisible. Okay. You know, perhaps it never
00:25:23.000 has occurred to Michelle that, um, actually she's in no position, uh, to tell other groups of people
00:25:27.720 what they do and don't understand. She says this about three times in this one, you know,
00:25:32.260 in, in, in two minutes of talking, she's about three times. She's what white people don't understand
00:25:37.160 what you white people don't realize. It's pretty disturbing that this woman and her husband
00:25:43.440 were in charge of the country and had this attitude about, you know, about a vast majority
00:25:54.500 of the American population based on this. She has a very low opinion of white people and, you know,
00:26:02.380 a white person cuts in front of her immediately assumes it's racist. So how the hell do you know
00:26:10.280 what other people are thinking or feeling, Michelle? How do you know? Who are you to go around saying
00:26:16.280 this? You have no freaking idea what other people are doing and what their motivations are or what's
00:26:21.500 going on in their head. Who are you to assume that? She just prattles off, you know, a dozen things
00:26:27.280 that white people think and don't think and do and don't do. She's doing exactly what she accuses
00:26:32.260 white people doing to her by not letting them exist and be real and be their own people and
00:26:37.840 speak for themselves. No, she's going to speak for them. Um, the arrogance of that is just, I mean,
00:26:43.940 it's off the Richter scale. It's one of the most arrogant people in the country is, is Michelle
00:26:48.380 Obama. And I'm not just saying that based on, on only this, this is, this is part of a pattern
00:26:52.100 with her. Meanwhile, the traumatic experiences that she recounts getting cut, you know, cut in front of
00:26:57.320 in line, people not being overly friendly, uh, getting talked over. That happens to everyone,
00:27:03.400 Michelle. That's a normal thing for people. It happens to me. It happens to every person on earth.
00:27:10.620 That is an utterly normal part of life for everyone. Okay. We all deal with that. All of us.
00:27:19.560 I could tell you stories of having people cut in front of me in line. It's happened to me. I guarantee
00:27:24.000 you that, you know what I didn't do though. I didn't assume that the person doing it was,
00:27:29.560 it was a bigot or I didn't make these, these damning assumptions about their entire life and
00:27:35.820 existence and everything based on that. I assume that they either just didn't see me because they
00:27:40.760 weren't paying attention. They're up in their own head. Uh, and it's nothing racial or bigoted at all
00:27:45.260 or worst case scenario. I assume that, you know, in this moment, this person's acting like kind of a
00:27:50.260 jerk. It doesn't mean that they're a horrible person elsewhere. I've done it myself. I bet you
00:27:55.140 have too, Michelle. I bet there've been times when you've cut in front of people knowingly or unknowingly.
00:28:01.360 So we all deal with that. Okay. All of us, all of that stuff. Oh, I got talked over
00:28:05.740 at that happens to everyone. It is so normal. I, it's not, we don't like it. It's not fun.
00:28:12.960 It's annoying. It is so normal though. I, I, I can't stress this enough. It just happens to
00:28:19.540 everyone all the time. It really does. I promise you that. And, and, and rather than making assumptions
00:28:25.180 about entire races of people and telling white people what they do and don't experience, why
00:28:29.700 don't you ask them? You know, why don't you, why don't you let them speak for themselves
00:28:33.820 and tell you what they experience? So you have something that happens to you every once in a while,
00:28:40.240 you get cut in front of in line, someone talks over you rather than assuming, Oh, this never
00:28:44.580 happens to any, anyone of that race. Maybe ask them, Oh, does this happen to you guys? And if
00:28:49.220 they tell you, yes, then just take them at their word. Um, but here, here's the deal. Michelle Obama,
00:28:57.540 you know, she said she's pretending she wants to be treated just like everybody else. No,
00:29:02.460 she wants the opposite. She doesn't want, she's offended that she was treated like everybody else.
00:29:07.740 She doesn't want that. She's offended not to be treated differently under the guise of being,
00:29:16.200 of being offended that she was treated differently. That's what this is really about. That's what this
00:29:19.700 is always about. I mean, with this, with this kind of thing. Um, okay. So especially when it's a
00:29:26.740 privileged, rich, powerful, wealthy person claiming that they're being oppressed, uh, in 99 times out of
00:29:34.380 a hundred, what they're really going to be offended about when you get down into it is just that they,
00:29:39.260 you know, God forbid got treated like a normal person once. Okay. Number five, the VMAs were last
00:29:45.200 night. I somehow completely missed that. Uh, they were on, I usually watch all the VMAs. I'm a big
00:29:49.200 fan. I, you know, I host a watch party, uh, usually, uh, when the VMAs are on, we all wear our pajamas
00:29:54.460 and dance to the, to the songs. Um, it's a fun time. In any case, the Hollywood reporter has the
00:29:59.840 recap. Uh, first of all, there's a picture of lady Gaga accepting her award for her performance
00:30:05.560 in the latest, uh, power Rangers film. It looks like she does look, she looks like a villain for
00:30:09.920 power Rangers. Doesn't she a little bit, or maybe mortal combat. Um, anyway, the, the Hollywood
00:30:14.980 reporter says Kiki Palmer hosted the show, which aired Sunday night, the weekend, one video of the
00:30:19.820 year for blinding lights at Sundays. Actually it's spelled. I think it's misspelled because it's
00:30:23.700 missing an E for the weekend. It's really spelled weakened, the weakened, uh, one video of the
00:30:30.600 year. Other winners Sunday night included lady Gaga and Ariana Grande, uh, BTS, Taylor Swift,
00:30:36.940 H-E-R, Maluma, Machine Gun Kelly, and Megan Thee Stallion. I don't know who any of these people
00:30:42.120 are. I know Taylor Swift and lady Gaga. Those, those two, I know, uh, Grande. She's the one who
00:30:46.640 licked the donut. She's the donut lickers. I know her H-E-R and Maluma. What?
00:30:52.400 Um, they, they, they, they sound like, uh, skin conditions a little bit. Gaga's other wins
00:31:00.720 included artists of the year and song of the year for rain on me, her collaboration with
00:31:04.800 Ariana Grande. Uh, the weekend also won best R and B. Um, Kiki Palmer hosted the show, blah,
00:31:12.720 blah, blah. I'm just, I see if there's any big, okay, here we go. Later on in the show, Palmer
00:31:17.240 showed off her comedic chops by portraying her alter egos, including one she's featured on her
00:31:22.100 TikTok while visiting different spots in New York, such as the Bronx zoo, where she, uh,
00:31:27.840 could see the quote, the cats from the WAP video. I guess that's supposed to be a joke.
00:31:33.540 That's her showing off her comedic chops. Uh, Palmer encounters her Southern bell alter ego,
00:31:38.620 lady miss. At one point she jokes, you're cattier than Carol Baskin. Oh man, this is bad.
00:31:48.280 You're cattier than Carol Baskin. That was actually a joke that made it into this professional
00:31:56.520 production. Oh man. I, I, I, you know, I, I went, when I was in seventh grade, my school had a talent
00:32:05.840 show and there was like an 11 year old who got up and did a standup performance and all of his
00:32:12.020 material was way better than your cattier than Carol Baskin. So unfortunately I, I, um, I'm sad.
00:32:18.100 I missed that show. We all, we all missed it. Um, you might say there are more important things
00:32:22.800 going on in the world. I don't know. Like for example, our daily cancellation, which we will get
00:32:27.300 to now. Sadly, this afternoon, I must cancel Sarah Ramirez. She is evidently an actress, uh,
00:32:33.640 best known for her role on Grey's Anatomy. The reason I have to cancel Sarah today is because
00:32:38.820 of a recent post on Instagram where she came out as non-binary. Now you might ask what does coming
00:32:45.460 out as non-binary mean? The answer is that it doesn't mean anything because non-binary is not
00:32:50.240 a thing. Unfortunately, um, there is a binary and it's not possible to not be a part of it.
00:32:55.360 The binary broadly speaking breaks down like this. Okay. Um, in one camp you have people who can get
00:33:03.960 pregnant. In the other camp, you have people who can get the people in the first camp pregnant,
00:33:09.740 pregnant and pregnator. You might say, not the most eloquent way of putting it, but that's what it is.
00:33:13.840 And there's your binary. Okay. You can call people in these camps, whatever you want,
00:33:17.740 call them team A and team B. You can make up some names like, I don't know, snagglespiffs and
00:33:22.740 galley wags. It sounds a little bit like Harry Potter characters, but whatever. Or, you know,
00:33:26.980 you could even use names like, I don't know, women and men. Um, the name doesn't matter. It's
00:33:33.520 the function and the biology that matters. Yes. I can already hear your objection. You are,
00:33:39.320 you are right now shouting. I know you're saying, what about women who can't get pregnant? Huh?
00:33:44.380 Bet you never thought of them. Checkmate loser. And then you take a sip of your kombucha confident
00:33:50.080 that you've just debunked biology by pointing out that infertile women exist, but you haven't,
00:33:54.940 I assure you infertile women don't invalidate the statement that women can get pregnant any more than
00:34:00.140 a man who loses an arm in a wood chipper accident invalidates the statement that humans have two
00:34:04.280 arms. His accident doesn't mean that humans don't have two arms or that we must now entertain the
00:34:11.380 possibility that there might be humans out there with eight arms and 12 legs and 46 heads. It just
00:34:16.260 means he's supposed to have two arms, but the wood chipper had other ideas. Okay. In a similar way,
00:34:23.600 infertile women are that way either because they're older and their time of fertility has passed or
00:34:30.060 because something went wrong, illness, mutation, deformity, injury, surgery, some known thing
00:34:36.580 interceded and deprived this woman of that function. But we know that she's supposed to have it like the
00:34:43.880 man with the one arm is supposed to have two. This is not a problem for the binary. On the contrary,
00:34:48.720 this is what's known as an exception that proves the rule. Okay. So that's the binary. Now,
00:34:57.280 all of that said, let's check in with Sarah Ramirez reading from one of my favorite news
00:35:02.280 organizations, LGBTQ nation. Uh, it says Sarah Ramirez, the actor who played the bisexual character
00:35:07.520 Callie Torres on the medical drama TV series, Grey's Anatomy came out as non-binary in an August 27,
00:35:14.120 Instagram post. The post which showed Ramirez with a crop top haircut was captioned,
00:35:18.720 new profile pic in me is the capacity to be girlish boy, boyish girl, boyish boy, girlish girl,
00:35:26.000 all neither hashtag non-binary. All right. Now, hang on. First of all, it's just a haircut. Relax.
00:35:33.580 Okay. She, she got a haircut. Now she thinks she's a shape shifter. This is like, it's like if I spiked
00:35:37.600 my hair up and went, behold, I am a trans dimensional being unbound by the laws of gravity. I am God.
00:35:45.060 Look upon me and weep ye mortals. You see my haircut. You can't get superpowers for 19 bucks
00:35:50.900 at sports clips is all I'm trying to say. Okay. Anyway, back to the article says Ramirez previously
00:35:55.800 came out as bisexual in October, 2016 while making, um, remarks at the true colors United's 40 to none
00:36:03.600 summit. Wait, so she came out twice. Can you do that? She's, is that a, well, okay. I guess it's a two
00:36:08.940 different thing. Non-binary bisexual, uh, back to the article. It says at the time Ramirez said,
00:36:12.960 and because of the intersections that exist in my own life, woman, multiracial woman, woman of color,
00:36:18.320 queer, bisexual, Mexican, Irish, American immigrant, and raised by families heavily rooted in Catholicism
00:36:24.240 on both my Mexican and Irish sides. I am deeply invested in projects that allow our youth's voices
00:36:28.780 to be heard and that support our youth in owning their own complex narratives so that we can show
00:36:33.580 up for them in the ways they need us to. Uh, and says Ramirez who has been married to her husband,
00:36:38.680 Ryan DeBolt since 2011 is a member of the true colors fund board of directors and blah, blah,
00:36:44.260 blah. Okay. Uh, first of all, you, you notice how her, the intersections she lists are completely
00:36:50.100 redundant. She lists woman three times, queer and bisexual is two different things and multiracial
00:36:56.300 and woman of color as two separate things and Mexican and immigrant as two separate things.
00:37:00.540 She's, she's throwing 50 yard bombs and garbage time. Basically she's padding the stats. Okay.
00:37:04.740 Um, this is a person desperate to be seen as interesting and different, but like so many
00:37:10.500 people today, she's convinced that the only way to do that is to get yourself into as many
00:37:14.660 demographic categories as possible. Now, if we were going to psychoanalyze all of this,
00:37:22.280 there are many directions we could go. Um, it would be a long and winding and rather terrifying journey,
00:37:27.960 I suspect, but I want to focus on just this one thing, this, this business about being non-binary.
00:37:32.600 Um, as she says, a boy, a girl, both and neither. That of course makes no sense whatsoever. You
00:37:39.460 cannot be something and be another thing that's fundamentally different and be both and be none
00:37:44.180 of them all at once. You might as well claim that you're standing on the earth and the surface of the
00:37:48.540 sun at the same time. It is nonsensical objectively, but, um, what's going on here really though,
00:37:56.100 you know, why do people make these claims about themselves? I think the answer or part of the
00:38:03.960 answer is this, Sarah Ramirez isn't so much observing something about herself. She is rather
00:38:10.160 making assumptions about other people. Okay. Kind of like what Michelle Obama was doing.
00:38:15.640 And I'll explain more what I mean, because it strikes me that when, when people do this,
00:38:20.120 especially when celebrities come out and say, Oh, I am just so complicated. My inner life is so
00:38:25.520 interesting and unique. My experiences are so profound. I cannot be defined by the labels that
00:38:31.360 the rest of you use. No, no, I, I am so many things. And yet none of those things. I am like a work of
00:38:36.220 abstract art. I am a walking poem. A song in the wind is my existence. And they go on and on and on.
00:38:42.620 Um, and then they actually explain in more detail what they mean and why they have come to this
00:38:47.680 conclusion that they belong to a whole new category of human existence, non-binary or whatever other
00:38:52.700 label they want. When you listen to their description of their inner experience, you think,
00:38:57.160 wait a second, that's just, that's just being a person. That's pretty normal. The categories and
00:39:03.700 labels and jargon are different and bizarre and sound kind of crazy, but the actual experiences
00:39:07.840 underneath it, that's not special at all. These people are extraordinarily narcissistic.
00:39:14.360 You have to understand, especially celebrities. And so they have normal human emotions and
00:39:20.020 experiences and assume that the average person must not experience any of this themselves,
00:39:25.820 that they must be going through something that is just far beyond the emotional and psychological
00:39:29.760 reaches of the plebe on the street. They, you know, they, they must be, and they must be making
00:39:35.100 this assumption. Otherwise, how would they know that the label of woman doesn't accurately describe
00:39:39.800 them? How do they know that all women don't have the same sorts of emotions and experiences they do?
00:39:45.360 How do they know that what they're feeling isn't just what women, women feel? They assume that it's
00:39:50.400 different. And that assumption must be born at least in part by extreme arrogance. So you're a woman
00:39:58.140 with some traditionally masculine interests and tendencies. So what? That's not special at all. And it
00:40:04.520 doesn't make you not a woman. That just makes you a woman. That's part of being a woman, a person,
00:40:11.120 a human. We don't need a new category for you. It doesn't make you a woman and a man and none and
00:40:16.500 all together. The most feminine women in the world have masculine aspects of their personality. My wife,
00:40:22.380 for instance, very feminine, very good at traditionally feminine things like decorating,
00:40:25.800 for example. But if you pour her three fingers of a hundred proof whiskey, she'll guzzle that thing
00:40:29.560 straight. No problem. She built her own barn for the chickens. I helped in fairness, but still she
00:40:36.520 knows how to bait a hook. You know, I could go on. Does that mean that she's not a woman? She's
00:40:41.600 non-binary. She's a man, a woman, both and neither. No, she's just a woman, but she's a woman with some
00:40:47.780 unique and interesting traits and facets to her personality. Indeed, what makes the thing about the
00:40:54.260 whiskey kind of funny and cool is precisely that she's a woman. You know, I can hold my liquor too,
00:41:00.560 but nobody cares about that. I'm a man. It's expected. What allows it to be different, what
00:41:05.780 allows us to be different and develop our own identity and personality are the ways that we put
00:41:09.900 our own spin on the categories we naturally belong to. In the same way, we all belong to the category of
00:41:16.680 human being, right? And because of that, if any one of us ever figures out how to fly without
00:41:21.640 mechanical assistance, that's going to be a pretty big deal. If we were birds, it wouldn't be. And if
00:41:27.520 you do ever start flying, that wouldn't make you a bird. If it did, then this utterly fascinating
00:41:33.120 gobsmacking thing about you would suddenly be rote and routine. Again, what makes us interesting are the
00:41:39.620 variations within the categories. If you deny the categories or experience variation and decide that
00:41:45.760 it means that you belong to the other category, you know, you're a man who has feminine tendencies in
00:41:49.740 certain areas. So you decide that you are in fact, a woman. If you do that, then you actually lose
00:41:54.820 what made you interesting. You lose your uniqueness. Gender is binary because of biology. As I explained
00:42:02.920 at the beginning, nothing you can ever do or feel will change that. You are a man or a woman, a he or
00:42:09.180 her. You are not both. You are not one than the other. You are not neither. You are not a they.
00:42:14.000 Um, and it takes, I suppose, some measure of basic humility to admit that and submit yourself to that
00:42:20.220 reality, which imposes itself on you, whether you like it or not anyway. But that doesn't mean you have to
00:42:25.480 live a cookie cutter existence or think and act just like everybody else on your side of the binary. If you're a
00:42:31.880 woman, be whatever kind of woman you want, wear whatever you want, get whatever sort of haircut you want. The
00:42:38.600 high top fade on a woman doesn't do much for me personally, but hey, it's your head. Do what you
00:42:41.980 want. Um, live how you want. Think what you want. That's not to say that every choice we make is going
00:42:47.760 to be equally good, healthy, and moral. But the point is simply that you have a lot of freedom as a woman
00:42:52.220 to be the sort of woman you want to be. You just don't have the freedom to be not a woman. And that's
00:42:59.020 okay. In fact, there's a lot of freedom in accepting that. But for now, Sarah Ramirez does belong to a new
00:43:07.340 category of existence, an ever-growing category. That would be the category of canceled by me.
00:43:14.400 And that's it for the show. Thanks for watching, everybody. Thanks for listening. Have a great day.
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