Ep. 580 - Dems Add 'Court Packing' To List Of Redefined Terms
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Today on the Matt Walsh Show: Democrats have made it clear that they absolutely will pack the Supreme Court if they are given the power to do so, overturning a century of precedent and setting us down a dangerous path. Also, an unlicensed security guard, apparently hired by an NBC affiliate, then proceeded to shoot and kill a Trump supporter. And Tucker Carlson talks about UFOs.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, Democrats have made it clear that they absolutely will pack the court
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if they're given the power to do so, overturning a century of precedent and setting us down a very
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dangerous path. Their defense of this plan is to, as always, redefine the term court packing,
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claiming that Republicans are packing the court simply by filling vacant seats. All of that is
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crazy. We'll talk about it. Also, five headlines, including an unlicensed security guard, apparently
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hired by an NBC affiliate, then proceeded to shoot and kill a Trump supporter. And
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Tucker Carlson talks about UFOs and brings up a number of important questions there.
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So we'll discuss that as well. And in our daily cancellation, as is my custom on this glorious
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All right. Well, one of the primary tools of the left, one of their most effective tools,
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a tool that has helped them win the culture and crush their ideological foes, is that of
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redefinition. We talk about this a lot on this show, probably so much that you get tired of
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hearing about it, but definitions are important. We can't communicate without them. To communicate,
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what does communication mean? To communicate is to convey meaning. If you control the definition
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of words, then you control communication. You make it so that people are submitting to your
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worldview, advancing it, promoting it, agreeing with it implicitly, simply by speaking. Even if
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they don't want to agree with it, they still are. Perfect example, off-cited on this program,
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is the word gender. The left took the word gender, which was always a grammatical term.
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Words had a gender, not people. That's the way it used to be. And they invented a new use,
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a new definition of that term. And for decades since then, even people who disagree with their
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gender theories still use the word gender in the context and way that the left wants,
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thereby agreeing with their underlying premise, that humans have both sex and gender, which are
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distinct. Many other examples can be mentioned here. But the fascinating thing is to see this
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process play out in real time, which we do quite a lot now. With the advent of the internet and 24-hour
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cable news, it can happen instantaneously. You could wake up in the morning and have breakfast
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under the security and comfort of knowing that a certain word means a certain thing.
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And by lunchtime, when you're eating your sandwich, that word means something else entirely. It's that
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fast. Just like that, the word changes meaning. So the latest example, not quite as far-reaching or
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culturally significant as the word gender, but still impactful in its own way, is the term court
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packing. Now, as long as this term has existed, which isn't for very long in the grand scheme,
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but it has been in reference to any scheme to add more justices to the Supreme Court,
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add more seats, not merely fill a vacant seat, add more in order to seize ideological control of the
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Supreme Court. That's what the term meant. But now the Democrats clearly plan to do this themselves,
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and given the term's negative connotation, they've decided to, all at once,
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redefine it. And just like that, court packing is not adding seats to the bench, but simply
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filling empty seats. Many prominent voices on the left have adopted this talking point,
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as I said, all at once, just overnight, including Dan Rather, who tweeted,
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can we at least recognize that court packing at all levels of the judiciary has been the Republican
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playbook for decades, asking for Merrick Garland? No, Dan, we can't recognize that because it's a
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fantasy. It's false. But it's a fantasy that Democrats are widely engaging in. Here's Senator
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Senator Durbin, did the fact that Vice President Biden used the phrase court packing,
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was that a tell of where the vice president stands on this, that he doesn't want to see this happen?
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Well, I can tell you that we're getting this question. It's a common question being asked because
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American people have watched the Republicans packing the court over the last three and a half
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years and they brag about it. They've taken every vacancy and filled it. Did you know that they've
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sent us and we have approved only with their votes, I might add, 10 people who have been judged
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unanimously unqualified by the American Bar Association? Do you know how many judicial nominees
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came from Obama who were judged unanimously unqualified? None.
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They've taken every vacancy and filled it, he says. As opposed to what, Dick? Leaving the vacancy
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open in the name of, what, good sportsmanship? This really is the Democratic argument. It's not
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a straw man. They are arguing that Republicans should leave judicial seats open, not just the
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Supreme Court, but judicial seats in general should be left open in order to be nice to the Democrats.
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That's their argument. Here's Senator Chris Coons making the same argument.
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Well, I'm going to be laying out the ways in which Judge Barrett's views, her views on reaching back
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and reconsidering and overturning long settled precedent are not just extreme, they're disqualifying.
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She has taught at a well-regarded law school. She clerked for Justice Scalia, but she has views that
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make her not qualified to serve on the Supreme Court. President Trump has said he would only nominate
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someone who would overturn the Affordable Care Act, taking away health care protections from more than
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100 million Americans in the middle of a pandemic. And both President Trump and members of the majority
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on this committee have said they would only vote for a nominee who would overturn Roe versus Wade.
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As I will lay out in my questioning this week, we shouldn't be having this hearing with two members of the
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committee infected with COVID. It's rushed. It constitutes court packing and her views are too extreme to
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qualify her to serve on this court. And of course, Joe Biden, like a good, empty suited would be
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presidential figurehead is repeating this line himself and adding his own twist to it. Listen.
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Look, the only court packing going on right now. It's going on with Republicans packing the court now. It's not
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constitutional what they're doing. We should be focused on what's happening right now. And the fact is that
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the only packing going on is this court. It's being packed now by the Republicans after the vote has already
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begun. I'm going to stay focused on it so we don't take the eyes off the ball here.
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It's unconstitutional what they're doing. Oh, really? How so? Where is it written in the
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Constitution that presidents are only allowed to nominate justices for the first three and a half
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years of their presidency? But then after that, it's a grace period for the other party and the
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president has to pretend he isn't president, even though he is. Where is that? Can you please,
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can you, can you cite, give me chapter and verse here because Joe, I, I, I've looked and I haven't found it.
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But I suppose, I suppose we shouldn't expect coherence from the same guy who says that voters
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don't deserve to know his own position on the subject of court packing. He was asked about this
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and said explicitly, no, they don't deserve to know. Listen, I've got to ask you about packing
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the courts. And I know that you said yesterday, you aren't going to answer the question until after
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the election. But this is the number one thing that I've been asked about from viewers in the past
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couple of days. Well, you've been asked by the viewers who are probably Republicans who don't want me
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continuing to talk about what they're doing to the court right now. Well, sir, don't the voters
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deserve to know? No, they don't. I'm not going to play his game. He'd love me to talk about,
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and I've, I've already said something on, on court court. He'd love that to be the discussion instead
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of what he's doing now. They don't deserve to know, he says. The voters do not deserve to know
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what the president's actual policy position is. The voters do not deserve to know if the guy who is
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running for president will overturn over a century of precedent and reshape the court by force,
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setting off a court packing arms race where every successive president will add seats until there
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are 600 seats on the court with no end to the expansion in sight. We don't deserve to know that.
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Interesting, coming from the guy who recently tweeted, the American people deserve to know what
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Donald Trump is hiding in his tax returns. So to be clear, here's the deal, as Biden would say,
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the deal is that the American people deserve to know the personal financial information of the
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president, but they don't deserve to know about his public policy positions, even one as consequential
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as this. So it looks like the word deserves has also been redefined, which I suppose had already
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happened. It's been redefined a long time ago. So to review now, the Democrats have advanced two
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primary arguments to defend their view that Amy Coney Barrett should not have been nominated
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and shouldn't be confirmed. One is that it defies the magisterial dying wish of Ruth Bader Ginsburg.
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That's one of their arguments. The other is that anytime a Republican fills a vacant court seat,
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it is automatically a court packing scheme and is also unconstitutional, even though the
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Constitution expressly gives them the authority to do it. These are their arguments. You can decide
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code Walsh. All right, number one, a Trump supporter was shot and killed at a protest in Denver over the
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weekend. He apparently sprayed mace at the shooter, who responded by killing him. You can see a photo of
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the fateful encounter here. Mace is not a lethal weapon. So this would seem to be a disproportionate
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response. Now, the man with the gun is named Matthew Doloff. He was arrested for murder at the scene.
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The interesting thing is that apparently he was hired as private security by a local news station.
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That's NBC affiliate Nine News. And here's the other interesting thing. According to city officials,
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Doloff was not licensed as a security guard in the city. So it would seem that a news channel hired,
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whether knowingly or not, an unlicensed armed security guard who then proceeded to shoot and
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kill a pro-Trump demonstrator. This ought to warrant charges, I would think, not just for Doloff, but
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for Nine News as well. All right, number two, Keith Olbermann still exists, apparently. It seems we
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haven't heard much from him in recent years. At least I hadn't heard anything from him. I assume
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that he had returned to his lair deep in the earth somewhere, but he has reemerged now. He has been
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maybe summoned after somebody read a curse from an old book in an attic somewhere. And now he's back on
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the scene and he's about as reasonable and coherent as you remember. Listen. Trump can be and must be
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expunged. The hate he has triggered, the Pandora's box he has opened, they will not be so easily
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destroyed. So let us brace ourselves. The task is twofold. The terrorist Trump must be defeated,
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must be destroyed, must be devoured at the ballot box. And then he and his enablers and his supporters
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and his collaborators and the Mike Lees and the William Bars and the Sean Hannity's and the Mike
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Pence's and the Rudy Giuliani's and the Kyle Rittenhouse's and the Amy Coney Barrett's must be
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prosecuted and convicted and removed from our society while we try to rebuild it and to rebuild the world
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Trump has nearly destroyed by turning it over to a virus. Remember it, even as we dream of a return
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to reality and safety and the country for which our forefathers died, that the fight is not just to win
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an election, but to win it by enough to chase, at least for a moment, Trump and the maggots off the
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stage and then try to clean up what they left. Remember it, even though to remember it means remembering
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that the fight does not end November 3rd, but in many ways will only begin that day.
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Yes, he says that Amy Coney Barrett, along with Bill Barr and of course Trump and a number of others,
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should be prosecuted, convicted and removed from society.
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First of all, when we're in the midst of, you know, the media is blaming Donald Trump for supposedly
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encouraging violence or encouraging white supremacists, which he's not doing. But how about
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this? You've got a prominent, I guess, I guess he's still prominent. You've got a prominent voice on
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the left, at least a well-known voice, saying that Amy Coney Barrett, Supreme Court nominee, should be
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removed from society. Look, I understand that in the feverish, fantasy-fueled minds of leftists,
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Trump is responsible for all manner of crimes against humanity, and so that's why they're
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always calling for him to be arrested. But what crime did Amy Coney Barrett commit? Even in their
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feverish, fantasy-filled minds, what crime are you accusing her of committing exactly? At least with
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Trump, I know what crimes they're accusing him of committing, like they're accusing him of being a
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Russian spy, okay? So I understand that. It's ridiculous, but I understand it. What are you even
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saying that Amy Coney Barrett did? Did she go 12 miles over the speed limit on the way to dropping
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your kid off for soccer practice? Is that the crime? We're at the point now where these people,
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they don't even bother making up a fake crime. They just work themselves into a sweat and scream
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that everyone that they don't like should be in prison. They don't even bother to explain why.
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That's their argument style. So you say to them, so here's my view on this subject. Oh yeah? Well,
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well, you should be in prison. Prison! Go to prison! What? Dude, I was just telling you that
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I think Batman Begins was better than The Dark Knight. That's all I'm trying to say.
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The thing is, I also think, because I know you hear me talking about this and you're probably
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thinking, well, you're a hypocrite, Matt, because don't you often say that your political opponents
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and many other people should be locked in prison? Well, yes, I do, but I'm a theocratic fascist.
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So that's my whole thing, right? That's part of it. If you're pretending to be opposed to fascism,
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then this approach doesn't work. But anyway, glad to see that Olbermann is back. Always elevating
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the national dialogue, doesn't he? All right, number three, Julie Borowski is a political
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commentator, more on the libertarian side of things. She says she was kicked off a flight
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because her toddler wouldn't wear a mask. Here's the tweet. She says,
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we got kicked off a flight. Our two and a half year old wouldn't put on a mask. We had practiced
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beforehand, but he wasn't having it. And then she tagged Southwest. So apparently she was on
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Southwest. She says Southwest staff was apologetic. I get they don't make the rules. I hope airlines
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ease up the rules because this really limits families with toddlers. Yeah. Well, Julie here is
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being much nicer and more polite about it than I would be if that were me. You got kicked off your flight.
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Two and a half year old won't wear a mask. Of course he won't. Of course a two and a half year
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old won't wear a mask. Here, in fact, is what I'll say. And there may be some exceptions for this,
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but broadly speaking, if you have managed to scare your two and a half year old to such an extent
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that he will actually keep his mask on for hours at a time, then I think it's very likely you're a
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horrible parent and person. Uh, I just, I can't even conceive. I've got a three year old, almost
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four. Uh, and, and he won't keep his mask on and we don't, I'm not going to force him to. Uh, I,
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most of the time when we're going in somewhere, I don't even give him a mask. We just go in and,
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uh, and that's it. Or I'll hand it to him and then he'll immediately like put it in his pocket.
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Fine. I did my, I, you know, I tried to comply with the rules. I did my part. Um,
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two and a half year old though is, is that's just crazy to even expect it.
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And so I'm just trying to imagine to get a two and a half year old to do that. I mean,
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it's possible you have a two and a half year old with a extremely sort of obedient personality and
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extremely cooperative. Maybe there are a few of those two and a half year olds out there,
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but the vast majority of them are not going to do that in order to get them to do it. You would,
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the, the, the psychological manipulation you would have to employ to convince them to do it
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and keep it on their face is unthinkable to me. This whole thing is crazy. This is absolutely insane.
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Um, and, and, and nevermind the fact that the, the, the, it has been repeatedly shown that there's
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very, that there's probably a very low risk of, uh, someone who's two and a half contracting or
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spreading the virus. Um, and on top of that, remember that what we're always told, right,
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is you wear the mask for me, right? You wear the mask for me. You don't wear it for yourself.
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You wear it for other people. And so when we are forcing crying, confused, scared toddlers to wear
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masks, we can't even pretend we're doing it for their sake. Can we? We're doing it for us. We're
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doing it to protect us, to protect us from them. That's what we're doing. It's cowardly. It's
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disgusting. It's disgraceful. Shame on, uh, Southwest for that. And yes, they have the right to make
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whatever rules they want for their business, but that doesn't mean that if, if, if the rules are
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insane, um, that doesn't mean we can't criticize it and we can hear and we should. Number four,
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speaking of insane, Gal Gadot is going to star in a movie about Cleopatra and that's not the insane
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part. That part, you know, it's fine because we live in the dumbest possible world. This has provoked
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backlash from people who are mad that Cleopatra's ethnicity, uh, or, or her, her ethnic identity
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is being appropriated. One person leading the charge is Abdul El Saeed, CNN commentator and
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public health doctor, self-described. He says, so there were no Egyptian women to play, um, an
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Egyptian queen. Yes. Very offensive. Very offensive. I'm also scandalized that they couldn't find anyone
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who actually was alive in the year 50 BC. I mean, you're telling me that out of all the 2000 year old
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people on earth, you couldn't find one to play this role. Someone who could speak authentically to the
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lived experience of people who lived 50 years before Christ. Of course, looked at another way,
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this is all very stupid. Very, very, very, very stupid for many reasons. Uh, not the least of
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which being that Cleopatra wasn't Egyptian. Actually, she was Greek. Second, uh, are there?
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So every time we hear this, oh, you, we couldn't find an actor or actress of, of this, uh, ethnicity to
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play this role. Well, how do you know there are? I mean, are there Egyptian actresses who could play
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this role effectively who would actually be best for it? Maybe there are, maybe there aren't. I don't
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know. You're just assuming it's at the very least. If you're going to do this, put forward a person
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who you think would be better for the role, actual person, not an ethnicity or a skin color, an actual
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person, and then explain why you think they're better for it going beyond their ethnicity or skin
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color. But all of that is irrelevant because the third point of course, is that the job,
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of an actor is to pretend to be what they are not. That is literally the entire job. That is what
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they are paid to do. And it used to be that the further, uh, in act, actor, actress was from,
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you know, the identity of the role, the more impressed we were with the performance.
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In other words, the more unlike the actor is from the role, that's, that just makes it even more
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impressive. Think about, um, uh, you know, Daniel Day Lewis in my left foot playing a paraplegic.
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He's not paraplegic himself. And these days you could never get away with that because it'd be
00:23:40.360
said, well, what about a paraplegic actor? I don't know how many of paraplegic, paraplegic actors are
00:23:45.620
there, or are you just saying we can never tell this story until we have actors of that, um,
00:23:51.160
of that identity. But you know, back then when it was saying 30 years ago, whenever that movie came
00:23:56.920
out, everybody was impressed with the performance because here's an able-bodied person able to
00:24:01.420
portray this role, even though he's that he, he is not that himself, but he was able to effectively
00:24:05.980
portray it. And, uh, very impressive. It was a great job acting precisely because he is so himself
00:24:14.120
unlike that role. All right. Number five. Finally, Tucker Carlson last week did a segment on his show
00:24:22.340
where he discussed UFO sightings and specifically this new documentary that was just released called
00:24:27.360
The Phenomenon. Um, here's a clip of the Carlson segment, which includes some clips of the documentary.
00:24:35.260
We used to be defensive on this topic, but there's no reason to be. There is now an enormous amount of
00:24:39.960
evidence, including physical evidence that UFOs, whatever they are, are real. Why don't we know a
00:24:45.200
lot more about this? Because the government has hidden that information from us outrageously. But now
00:24:50.960
some of that information has come into public view. Thanks to a new documentary called The Phenomenon,
00:24:56.680
we learned the feds are hiding more than we thought they were.
00:24:59.520
All we're saying, nobody has to agree that why it's there, but shouldn't we at least be spending some
00:25:07.820
money to study all these phenomenon? Shouldn't we study this stuff? The answer is yes. And that's all
00:25:15.260
this was about. And why the federal government all these years has covered up, put brake pads on
00:25:22.620
everything, stopped it. I think it's very, very bad for our country. Are you saying that there's
00:25:29.380
some evidence that still hasn't seen the light of day? I'm saying most of it hasn't seen the light of
00:25:34.460
day. It's outrageous. And it's not a partisan question, by the way. That, of course, was former
00:25:40.380
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, a Democrat, if there ever was one. But that's not
00:25:44.640
even the biggest claim he makes. According to the film, Reid said that UFOs have actually and
00:25:49.100
repeatedly interfered with our nuclear weapons capabilities. So where are these UFOs from?
00:25:55.300
Some researchers told the filmmakers that their origins are becoming clearer.
00:25:58.760
Dr. Jacques Vallée has collected purported metal debris from UFO cases dating as far back as 1947
00:26:08.320
that experts are analyzing in a state-of-the-art laboratory. He was astonished to find their
00:26:15.000
composition was unlike any known metal. This material was manufactured. It's not natural. It's
00:26:22.940
not natural to the materials that we have around us in the lab or on the Earth.
00:26:29.660
Yeah, physical evidence of extraterrestrial spaceships visiting Earth. Not a big deal.
00:26:33.360
It's nothing compared to, like, the fly on Mike Pence's forehead.
00:26:36.040
And he's right. You know, the most amazing thing about all this is that so few people seem to care.
00:26:41.180
We've got photographic evidence, video evidence, physical evidence of these things, and everyone just
00:26:47.480
sort of shugs their shoulders and moves on. Now, I watched the documentary myself after seeing the
00:26:52.580
Carlson segment. And as one of the weirdos who, myself, I'm one of the weird people where I've
00:26:57.620
watched a bunch of UFO documentaries in my day. I can say that this one is by far and away the most
00:27:03.820
credible and impressive of any that I've ever seen. Even the narrator who you heard there, he's,
00:27:10.260
I don't know what his name is, but I recognize that voice. I watch a lot of documentaries in general.
00:27:14.820
And, you know, this is a guy who does, like, Ken Burns films and PBS documentaries, a mainstream
00:27:21.640
documentary narrator. And the film includes, as you saw, former prominent, very prominent
00:27:30.180
government officials, politicians, former military officials, scientists. These are credible people,
00:27:37.420
for the most part. I mean, Harry Reid, I don't know if I'd call him credible. In fact, I wouldn't.
00:27:40.520
But even there, when it comes to ideological things, I don't think he's credible. But
00:27:45.940
that he's putting his name next to this. Also, they've got supposed eyewitnesses, lots of
00:27:52.660
photographic and video evidence, like I mentioned, all in the documentary. The thing is, one objection
00:27:56.280
you often hear to the UFO claims is that, well, if UFOs were real and aliens were actually visiting,
00:28:03.800
we should have very good evidence of it by now. Why is it that, like with Bigfoot, somehow nobody's ever
00:28:09.260
come forward with really remarkable physical evidence or video evidence of this? Why is it
00:28:13.700
that even in modern times, everybody who records one of these phenomena, you know, manages to get
00:28:19.260
video of it, seems to be recording it with their grandmother's toaster oven? I mean, why isn't it
00:28:24.180
that everyone's carrying around these really advanced videos, you know, cameras in their pockets?
00:28:31.840
Why hasn't it ever been captured? Well, the thing is, that's true of Bigfoot.
00:28:37.460
You know, that's a very good argument against Bigfoot. There are a lot of good arguments against
00:28:40.280
it. But one of them is just, we've never had, there's never been anything close to actual
00:28:44.340
compelling evidence of that. As far as UFOs, though, actually, there has been a lot of really
00:28:50.560
good evidence. Photos, videos, physical evidence. It just seems that nobody believes it. Even the good
00:28:56.480
evidence, nobody believes. And so you start to think, what kind of evidence would the average
00:29:01.800
person actually need to see in order to entertain the idea that maybe this really is extraterrestrial
00:29:08.400
in origin? Probably short of being personally visited by alien beings, the average person won't
00:29:13.760
be convinced. By the way, and not to say that I'm convinced, as in I'm 100% on board that I'm sure
00:29:20.680
that these are aliens. I'm just saying that a lot of this stuff is interesting. And the photographic
00:29:25.020
evidence goes back decades. There have been very interesting photos of flying saucers from the
00:29:29.960
50s that have been investigated by various government commissions and so forth, and have
00:29:35.020
been labeled unexplained, as in they aren't obviously manipulated or staged. None of the obvious
00:29:40.860
explanations hold. So we're left with, what is it? So there is something going on here. I think we
00:29:47.640
could say at a minimum with certainty that we have proof of the existence of aircraft that far exceeds
00:29:54.820
the known technological ability of modern man. And when we say far exceeds, we mean stuff that is
00:30:02.980
like hundreds of years or more beyond our known capabilities. It's easy to speculate, of course, that
00:30:10.260
some government somewhere has this technology and is testing it out. But the problem is that, first of
00:30:15.660
all, these sightings go back to the 40s and 50s. If a world government somewhere had access to this
00:30:23.460
technology 70 years ago, you'd think they would have used it by now in a very noticeable, significant
00:30:31.200
way. Is it believable that some other world power is that far ahead of us and yet hasn't used that
00:30:39.480
power in any noticeable way? I don't know. Of course, when you compare that explanation, which seems
00:30:45.200
implausible with the idea that some intelligent civilization is visited, which both are implausible,
00:30:53.260
which is more implausible? And you can make a good argument that the alien civilization is more
00:30:58.260
implausible. But still, there's definitely something going on here. And when we get to the point where
00:31:03.120
you have government officials on the record saying, I don't know, this is weird, that should make us take
00:31:11.560
notice, I think. All right. Of course, you always have to guard against wishful thinking with these
00:31:18.060
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00:31:21.500
cool. And even if they're coming here to invade the earth and kill us all, all right. Okay.
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We had a good run. I'm okay with that, too. So there's a silver lining to that as well. So you have
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I will, as is my custom and has been for years now, deliver my defense of the great man Christopher
00:34:19.420
Columbus. As we know, Columbus Day has become primarily an opportunity for historically illiterate
00:34:24.480
preening dimwits to spend their time screeching about a fictional version of history where Europeans
00:34:30.040
were the first to introduce rape, pillage, and slavery to the universally peaceful and noble
00:34:34.640
inhabitants of the New World. Of course, in reality, it'd be quite impossible for the Spanish to
00:34:39.120
introduce rape, pillage, and slavery to this part of the world where rape, pillage, and slavery
00:34:44.720
had been utterly commonplace for centuries, as it had been commonplace everywhere on the globe.
00:34:50.860
But don't tell that to the dimwits. The dimwits who, you'll notice, say they hate Columbus and,
00:34:56.380
you know, everything he stood for and represents, yet will still take the day off if it's offered to
00:35:01.080
them. They don't hate him that much. And speaking of dimwits again, the dimwit capital,
00:35:06.820
dimwitopia, as we might call it, Portland, saw another riot last night, this time under the name
00:35:12.580
of Indigenous People Day of Rage. And it was a chance for Indigenous people, or those who claim to
00:35:17.520
be, or the allies of such, or just people who feel like, you know, tearing stuff down, to go around
00:35:22.660
destroying things, anything at random, because they're enraged. They have rage, you see. They have
00:35:27.860
rage over events that occurred over 500 years ago. And because of this rage, they have, as you can see
00:35:34.660
here, this photo, toppled an Abraham Lincoln statue, and other statues. They're mad about
00:35:40.780
stuff that happened 500 years ago, so they tore down the statue of a man who lived 150 years ago.
00:35:45.900
Makes sense. Actually, no, it doesn't. And aside from the general historical literacy of the
00:35:50.480
anti-Columbus faction, it must also be said that if you're experiencing actual rage over things that
00:35:55.800
happened half a millennium ago, you are mentally ill. It's not normal or healthy to be sitting around
00:36:02.060
in the year 2020, stewing over stuff that happened in the year 1506. But obviously, I'm being
00:36:09.880
intentionally naive. The people rioting, they're not enraged about anything. They're just bored and numb
00:36:15.600
and destroying stuff because they can. And it's fun. Now, getting back to the broader war against our
00:36:21.260
national heroes, one that is largely led not by Indigenous people, but by white liberals. And you'll
00:36:27.620
notice something about these self-hating, white guilt-ridden folks. They would never suggest that
00:36:33.120
the nightmarish brutality of many Native American tribes outweighs whatever they accomplished.
00:36:38.280
Even the propensity for cannibalism among some tribes must be understood in context, we're told.
00:36:44.020
Yet somehow, the sins of some European settlers automatically negates everything that European
00:36:49.300
explorers achieved and discovered. And besides, of course, the modern critic will note, Columbus didn't
00:36:54.240
even mean to discover America. And he never set foot in North America. And the Vikings got here
00:36:59.240
first. What an idiot. What a moron. Yes, those are all nice tidbits of information you acquired from
00:37:05.260
Facebook memes, but they're irrelevant. Of course, Columbus didn't mean to discover America. Nobody
00:37:09.800
knew that America existed. How does that undermine the significance of the discovery? If some future
00:37:15.460
team of intrepid astronauts accidentally discover a life-bearing moon on Jupiter on their way to exploring
00:37:21.380
Pluto, should we dismiss their groundbreaking history-shaping discovery on the basis that
00:37:26.340
they originally intended to make a different groundbreaking history-shaping discovery? As for
00:37:31.040
the Vikings, again, how is Columbus's incredible feat diminished by Leif Erickson's exploits in a
00:37:37.100
relatively small sliver of the North Atlantic 500 years prior? You may as well say that it would be
00:37:42.660
unimpressive for me to cure cancer because Jonas Salk already cured polio. We should also remember,
00:37:48.600
and it seems that modern people really have forgotten this fact, that Columbus did not have
00:37:55.360
the benefit of satellite navigation. He made his way by dead reckoning through uncharted waters. Most of
00:38:01.860
us cannot even conceive of what that would be like. To go sailing over an ocean, you have no idea how big
00:38:08.960
it is or where it leads. Over the course of his voyages, he discovered many Caribbean islands, explored the
00:38:13.960
coasts of South and Central America. He didn't make it to North America, but he made it possible for future
00:38:18.540
settlers to soon find it. That's quite an achievement, I would say. Or must he be blamed for only discovering
00:38:24.060
half of the Western Hemisphere while recklessly neglecting to discover the other half? That guy only
00:38:28.860
discovered half of the hemisphere. What a dope. That seems a rather stringent standard, especially coming
00:38:35.300
from people who can't locate their local supermarket without GPS assistance. And what about the natives that
00:38:42.320
Columbus encountered? Yes, many of them were peaceful, and we all agree that mistreatment of peaceful
00:38:47.500
people is wrong anywhere it happens. By the same token, we should bear in mind that the sort of
00:38:53.420
Rousseauian vision of the universally noble savage occupying the New World was incorrect and ridiculous.
00:39:00.860
Columbus was, for example, in the neighborhood of the Caribs, a violent people who would capture and
00:39:05.600
consume other human beings. Columbus heard stories about this tribe on his first voyage,
00:39:11.860
bumped into them on his second. Columbus was close to Aztec territory as well. He never met them. That
00:39:17.780
civilizational clash would be saved for later, but it's worth noting that the Aztec Empire was not
00:39:23.140
exactly a picture of peace and serenity. Tens of thousands of people were captured and killed as
00:39:28.000
human sacrifices every year in macabre religious ceremonies. An offering was laid on a stone slab at the
00:39:35.140
top of a temple. His beating heart was ripped out of his chest. His arms and legs were often hacked off
00:39:41.140
and consumed by the priests. And his limbless carcass was rolled down the steps. This process
00:39:47.220
was repeated dozens or even hundreds of times in a single night and thousands of times over the course
00:39:53.420
of a year. Now, for a long time, historians and archaeologists assured us that the Spanish fabricated or
00:39:58.840
exaggerated these stories of Aztec barbarism, they say the same about the stories of Carib barbarism.
00:40:05.800
But then they discovered the skull racks buried in Mexico City. Columbus never governed with the
00:40:12.620
savagery of an Aztec king or a Carib chieftain, but he did take slaves. That's true. He was a man of his
00:40:19.040
time in that way. Although the Spanish would eventually outlaw slavery and beat almost every other culture in
00:40:24.840
the world by hundreds of years in doing so, they cannot be absolved of their role in that ubiquitous
00:40:29.680
evil. Neither can they be uniquely blamed for it either. That's the point. We can wag our fingers
00:40:35.580
about it, but we cannot wag our fingers selectively. If we call the Spanish genocidal, we must say the
00:40:42.080
same about indigenous people who participated in the same kinds of crimes. If we convict the Europeans
00:40:47.020
of stealing land, we must convict the natives for the same crime. We must convict all of history, in fact, and
00:40:54.600
all people. Because before the globe was settled, and we could all live comfortably in a country where the
00:41:00.580
greatest threat to our survival, for most of us, is that the DoorDash guy will take more than 25 minutes to
00:41:05.580
deliver our takeout sushi. Before all of that, every inch of inhabited space was fought over and blood soaked the
00:41:13.900
ground. And a man could only claim what he was willing and able to kill to keep. You did not own anything that you
00:41:22.540
could not defend. I am not saying the world should have been that way. I'm saying that my ideas of what should have been
00:41:29.480
are irrelevant. I'm telling you what was, and it was that way, everywhere, for all people, for thousands of years. The knife of
00:41:38.800
historical moralizing, then, only cuts whoever tries to wield it. So I suggest that we mature a little
00:41:46.480
bit and learn to view history in its context. Seen through that lens, Columbus appears before us as a
00:41:51.300
deeply flawed but incredibly brave and ingenious man who is responsible for one of the great achievements
00:41:56.240
in the history of mankind. Perhaps you could have done better, but probably not. You probably wouldn't
00:42:02.580
have even tried. And that's why Columbus gets his own holiday and you don't. He earned it. You might
00:42:08.880
complain about him, but I take note of the fact that you still remain in this country, living off the fat
00:42:14.420
of its land and enjoying fruit from trees planted by people greater and more significant than yourself.
00:42:19.360
So go ahead and scoff at those men as you feast on the bounty they provided you. But, you know, pardon me
00:42:26.740
while I dismiss your criticism and offer a little toast to Christopher Columbus and to everybody else who has a
00:42:33.960
balanced view of history. To the people who don't, I say, you're canceled. Columbus is not. You are. And we'll leave
00:42:46.120
it there. Happy Columbus Day, everybody. Have a great day. Godspeed.
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