The Matt Walsh Show - October 16, 2020


Ep. 584 - Joe Biden, A Madman Driven Insane By Left Wing Ideology


Episode Stats

Length

37 minutes

Words per Minute

171.92958

Word Count

6,530

Sentence Count

437

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

15


Summary

Joe Biden proposes that police officers should be able to neutralize dangerous suspects by shooting them in the leg. We ll talk about why this is an absurd and unworkable idea, including the left doxing a woman because she nodded during Trump s town hall, and in our daily cancellation we will cancel body shaming.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, Joe Biden at his town hall last night proved once again that he
00:00:04.340 is a man living in a fantasy world, driven mad by left-wing ideology. The latest evidence is
00:00:09.480 his proposal that police officers neutralize dangerous suspects simply by shooting them in
00:00:13.560 the leg. We'll talk about why this is an absurd and unworkable idea. Also, five headlines,
00:00:18.160 including the left doxing a woman because she nodded during Trump's town hall. And in our
00:00:24.960 daily cancellation, we will cancel body shaming. Not the thing itself. We're going to cancel the
00:00:29.060 term body shaming and all the panicking people do over it. Body shaming actually is not a big
00:00:33.760 problem. That's going to be my point. And all that coming up first, though, let's talk about
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00:01:43.600 I saw a movie once, you know, where the sheriff of a dusty old Western town thwarted a bank robbery by
00:01:50.940 shooting the gun out of the bad guy's hand and then threw a rope around him and it lassoed him
00:01:57.160 around the waist. All the bystanders applauded while the sheriff tipped his cap, took the hogtied
00:02:03.240 crook off to jail. These sorts of moments are enjoyable in films because they're fun and simple
00:02:08.840 and offer neat resolutions. And it can feel preferable to the real world, which sadly tends
00:02:15.160 more towards messiness and ambiguity. Many people in our culture today struggle to distinguish between
00:02:20.960 the real and the fantastical, leading to, among other unfortunate consequences, unrealistic
00:02:25.480 expectations, and among politicians, very stupid policy proposals. Police critics and would-be reformers
00:02:33.500 have often demonstrated this failure of distinction by breezily suggesting that cops could avoid killing
00:02:40.280 suspects. If only they behave more like Hollywood action heroes. What's the big deal? Just, you know,
00:02:45.800 just be a Hollywood action hero. It's bad enough when this sort of childishness emanates from internet
00:02:50.340 commenters and journalists, but it becomes a source of major concern when coming from a guy who might be
00:02:55.480 our next president. So Joe Biden at his ABC town hall last night answered a question about police
00:03:01.380 reform and gave us some of this complete nonsense. Listen.
00:03:06.340 We can do this. You can ban chokeholds. You can, but beyond that, you have to teach people how to
00:03:12.440 de-escalate circumstances, de-escalate. So instead of anybody coming at you and the first thing you do
00:03:18.200 is shoot to kill, you shoot them in the leg. There's ways you have to do more background checks in terms of
00:03:23.540 whether or not the person coming in passes certain psychological tests. And the last thing I'll say,
00:03:28.820 and I'm sorry because it was really, I think really, really important is you have to be in a
00:03:33.520 position where you are able to identify, identify the things that have to change. And one of the
00:03:40.300 things that has to change is so many cops get called into circumstances where somebody is mentally
00:03:45.920 off, like what happened not long ago, that guy with the knife. That's why we have to provide
00:03:52.640 within police departments, psychologists and social workers to go out with the cops on those calls,
00:04:00.280 some of those 911 calls, to de-escalate the circumstance, to deal with talking them down.
00:04:07.040 Instead of anybody coming at you and first thing you do is shoot to kill, just shoot them in the leg.
00:04:12.160 Biden said, with all the seriousness and credibility of a man wondering whether plane crash
00:04:16.980 fatalities could be avoided by covering aircraft and bubble wrap. Biden, of course, is far from the
00:04:22.160 first person to put forward this just shoot them in the leg thing. Anti-police activists often engage
00:04:27.020 in similar silliness and attempts have actually been made in New York State, for example, to legally
00:04:32.140 require cops to aim for a suspect's limbs. Now that law never went through, thank God, but it just shows
00:04:38.980 you. It's embarrassing, this idea, for a number of obvious reasons. First of all, legs are a narrow,
00:04:46.100 fast-moving part of the body. Unless we're requiring every police officer to be an expert-level
00:04:52.480 marksman, which would be an even taller order when we replace them all with social workers, which has
00:04:57.520 been suggested. It's absurd to expect this kind of accuracy during a high-pressure, quickly-evolving
00:05:03.620 situation. Dr. Bill Lewinsky, he's the executive director of the Force Science Institute, he's explained
00:05:08.960 some of the science behind this problem. And this is what he says, quote,
00:05:12.560 quote,
00:05:42.560 He continues,
00:06:12.540 So, this touches on two of the other major problems. Even if you successfully hit the suspect's
00:06:20.940 legs, you may sever his femoral artery, the main source of blood to his lower extremities,
00:06:25.940 causing him to bleed out rapidly anyway. If you don't hit the artery, well, you'll have wounded
00:06:31.120 him, but you haven't stopped him. Depending on where you hit him, and also how much adrenaline or other
00:06:38.540 foreign chemicals are coursing through him, the suspect will still be able to run, walk, certainly
00:06:43.780 shoot at least. Now, let's apply this to actual real-world situations. And when we do that, the
00:06:50.660 feebleness and incoherence of the just shoot him in the leg proposal becomes clear. Take, for example,
00:06:55.900 the shooting of Ricardo Munoz in Lancaster, Pennsylvania, which prompted rioting and protests.
00:07:00.380 Because Munoz came charging suddenly out of his house, wielding a large knife. The officer
00:07:05.280 who was being attacked took him down when he was mere feet away. Had the officer aimed for his leg
00:07:11.660 and missed or grazed him, he could have easily been stabbed to death before he had a chance to get off
00:07:17.660 another shot. Take the shooting of Dion K. in Washington, D.C. also a couple months ago. He was
00:07:23.960 shot while running towards the officers with his gun drawn. This was all caught on body cam. Again,
00:07:29.300 had they aimed for his leg and missed, there'd be no time to fire again before K could get a shot off
00:07:34.340 in the officer's direction. Had they shot and wounded him, he still would have been holding a gun
00:07:38.700 and perfectly capable and perhaps now more likely to use it. So Joe Biden's suggested strategy would
00:07:45.800 have very likely gotten police officers in both situations killed, as well as potentially dozens
00:07:51.980 or hundreds more each year. Joe Biden is living in a fantasy world, which would become a very real
00:08:00.140 and present danger for law enforcement officers if any attempt was made to bring his fantasies to
00:08:05.060 fruition. And speaking of fantasy worlds, Biden at the town hall last night also seemingly endorsed
00:08:10.420 the insane notion of transgender eight-year-olds. Here's that moment. Listen.
00:08:15.340 I'm the proud mom of two girls, eight and ten. My youngest daughter is transgender. The Trump
00:08:24.820 administration has attacked the rights of transgender people, banning them from military service,
00:08:33.960 weakening non-discrimination protections, and even removing the word transgender from some
00:08:40.880 government websites. How will you, as president, reverse this dangerous and discriminatory agenda
00:08:50.360 and ensure that the lives and rights of LGBTQ people are protected under U.S. law?
00:08:58.620 I will flat out just change the law. Eliminate those executive orders, number one. You may recall,
00:09:06.480 I'm the guy who said I was raised by a man who I remember I was being dropped off. My dad was a high
00:09:14.440 school educated, well-read man who was a really decent guy. And I was being dropped off to get an
00:09:20.640 application in the center of our city, Wilmington, Delaware, the corporate capital of the world at the
00:09:25.620 time. And these two men, I'm getting out to get an application to be a lifeguard in the African-American
00:09:31.060 community because there was a big swimming pool complex. And these two men, well-dressed, leaned
00:09:36.700 up and hugged one another and kissed one another. I'm getting out of the car at the light and I
00:09:40.420 turned to my dad. My dad looked at me and said, Joey, it's simple. They love each other. The idea
00:09:45.560 that an eight-year-old child or a 10-year-old child decides, you know, I decided I want to be
00:09:50.580 transgender. That's what I think I'd like to be. It may make my life a lot easier. There should be
00:09:56.920 zero discrimination. Now, leaving aside that the story about his dad and the gay men, which he's
00:10:02.080 told before, sounds completely made up. The issue is that Biden is beholden to a left-wing ideology
00:10:08.140 that stands athwart reality, hoping to alter or abolish hard truths by tearfully screaming at them.
00:10:17.320 This is why he is dangerous and absolutely cannot be given the power that he seeks.
00:10:24.680 Let's get to our five headlines.
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00:12:19.160 Trump performed pretty well, despite the extremely aggressive moderating, if we can call it that,
00:12:24.880 by Savannah Guthrie on NBC. Once again, of course, Trump gets the kind of hostile questioning
00:12:30.140 that Joe Biden has never, ever received and will never, ever receive. But I thought Trump was
00:12:35.660 disciplined, calm, focused. I thought it was good. I would love to see, we talked about this
00:12:40.620 yesterday. I would love to see this version of Trump and only this, at least until election day.
00:12:47.140 That's what I would love to see. I don't expect it, but that's what I would like because I thought it
00:12:52.200 was, it was very effective. And what that meant is the left had to go elsewhere for controversy
00:12:58.380 because they couldn't get it from Trump. And so they decided to focus instead on a woman
00:13:02.120 sitting behind Trump who was nodding. Yes, this was their focus. A woman nodding.
00:13:08.880 She was the target of leftist rage. Uh, and here she is. You can see her there nodding.
00:13:13.860 Look at her with her nodding. How dare you? Who are you to nod? Who do you think you are nodding?
00:13:22.240 This is, this is what you can go to Twitter and type in nodding. Okay. And search for it. And
00:13:27.020 you'll see hundreds of tweets from people condemning the nodding woman and trying to dox her.
00:13:33.960 Find out who she is. Punish her for nodding. Liz Garbus, for example, Liz Garbus, a Hollywood person,
00:13:40.620 I don't know, some kind of actress or something. Uh, she confessed to feeling quote, a lot of rage
00:13:46.120 about the woman nodding. Can you imagine, can you just, you know, I,
00:13:51.300 I continue to be so impressed by the ability of many of these leftists to get angry about stuff,
00:14:00.540 especially when I get angry about things all the time. You know, that's my thing. I get it. But
00:14:05.980 even I, I'm left in, in, in awe and admiration of their ability to get angry because they get angry
00:14:12.400 about things that I wouldn't even dream. I couldn't even conceive of being angry about them. I don't know
00:14:16.600 how to do it. They need to teach me. They've achieved a level of, of petty anger, anger. That
00:14:23.600 is, that is, uh, you know, it makes me look like an absolute novice in comparison. So I can't imagine
00:14:29.100 watching a town hall and just sitting there stewing, get her nodding. Stop nodding. I can't, I just,
00:14:37.940 I wouldn't be able to do it. I can't understand it, but this is what rage. I feel rage that the woman
00:14:44.620 was nodding. Tom Nichols, um, called for journalists to find this woman, uh, find out who
00:14:52.240 she is and punish her. He didn't say punish her, but that was implied. In fact, Tom Nichols, as you
00:14:57.920 can see, look at this. He tweeted angrily about the nodding woman dozens of times. He spent hours
00:15:07.380 without a hint of irony. This was not performance art. This was, he was really, this, this is how he
00:15:14.620 decided to spend his Thursday night, finding out who the woman is, who's, who nodded at Trump
00:15:20.360 and destroy her. And then the media started doing news articles about it. Um, until finally she was
00:15:26.980 identified. They, they, they succeeded in finding out who she was and they identified her. And, um,
00:15:31.480 and, but you know, the, the thing that set them off obviously is it's not just that a person was
00:15:37.060 nodding. Now, if that was like a white guy behind their nodding, then I think they probably would say
00:15:42.240 nothing about it. It's that she's a black woman. How dare a black woman indicate any sort of agreement
00:15:48.640 towards Trump? She's not allowed to. It's not permitted. This is the leftist mentality. Black people
00:15:56.180 are ours. Women are ours. Latinos, racial minorities, they belong to us. You belong to us
00:16:07.040 is the message that the left sends to people in those demographics. Uh, they, they think they own
00:16:11.760 them. And if, if, if, if they stray, if they get out of line, if they misbehave, well, the left is going
00:16:17.060 to punish them severely for it. This is the mentality. It's sick. It's twisted. It's deranged. It's,
00:16:22.620 it's crazy. Um, the way they react, it's like, it's like they, they, they really do react like
00:16:31.440 they have been personally betrayed. When a black person, black woman, especially, because now you
00:16:37.520 have the intersectional, you got two, two intersectional points here. Black woman, um,
00:16:42.560 indicates at all that, that she might not be a leftist. They react as though they have been
00:16:47.780 personally stabbed in the back and betrayed by like that person owes them something and they are
00:16:54.960 not getting what they are owed. Number two, how about some positive news for a change? Um, honestly,
00:17:01.180 this news made me, made me very happy. Just wonderful stuff here from the daily wire. It says
00:17:04.660 enrollment rates have declined for undergraduate students at colleges and universities across the
00:17:08.540 United States. And much of it can be attributed to fewer freshmen choosing to attend. According to a new
00:17:13.820 study released on Thursday, figures from the national student clearinghouse research center center show
00:17:19.140 that, uh, first year students have enrolled in colleges at a 16% lower rate than first years in
00:17:25.840 2019. This group of students account for 69% of the total decline in the national undergraduate
00:17:31.960 enrollment rate, a figure that currently stands at a 4% decline. The data also shows that community
00:17:37.800 colleges have been particularly affected by the decline, experiencing roughly a 23% drop in enrollment
00:17:42.360 rates. Um, Doug Shapiro, executive director of the center, uh, of, uh, what center, some center I just
00:17:49.900 talked about. Oh, the national student clearinghouse told the New York times in an interview that community
00:17:53.780 college enrollment during the great recession actually increased and called the declining rate
00:17:58.160 in 2020 enrollment data staggering. I fear that many of those students will never go back. Well, look,
00:18:04.320 I got nothing against community college. So, uh, this is, uh, I think community college has a real role.
00:18:09.620 So this is nothing against them, but as far as the four-year universities experiencing this drop,
00:18:15.880 we can only pray it continues. And, uh, and that many of them are bankrupted and destroyed.
00:18:22.100 That's my dream scenario. Dozens and dozens of these God forsaken institutions boarded up,
00:18:28.800 abandoned, and we can all gather and hold hands in a circle around the abandoned buildings,
00:18:35.460 dancing, dancing, dancing the night away. That's, that is my, that is my fantasy.
00:18:44.000 Um, and why would I feel that way about them? Well, you know, no reason except that these
00:18:49.280 institutions are financially bankrupting generations of Americans, um, forcing them, not forcing them,
00:18:55.980 but duping them into paying for the privilege of being brainwashed. In exchange for being made poor
00:19:04.060 and in debt, they'll also make you confused and deluded. That's the deal. And so, yeah, um, yeah,
00:19:11.100 I, I, I would, uh, I'm, I'm a big fan of the idea of, of, of them suffering enormous financial
00:19:17.880 consequences for that. Now, number three, let's move on to this from the daily wire. Here's a story
00:19:23.020 to prove my point about the last thing we just talked about says the university of Minnesota school
00:19:27.720 of social work and continuing education series recently hosted what they called a special webinar
00:19:33.560 series that was titled quote deconstructing and decentralizing whiteness in practice, a three
00:19:40.360 part series in which a lecture titled recovery from white conditioning taught white people how to use
00:19:47.240 a 12 step program similar to alcoholics anonymous to recover and reclaim our full humanity.
00:19:53.460 Okay. Um, I can't even read any more of this. So it's a 12 step program to overcome being white.
00:20:03.240 I know we're so used to this by now that we're numb to it, but let's really focus on the fact
00:20:07.980 that they are treating whiteness like a literal disease, like a sickness. And they're doing this
00:20:17.040 while claiming that there's no racism against white people. No, there's no racism against white
00:20:23.760 people. You diseased demons. That's the message. Number four, Stevie Nicks of Fleetwood Mac, um,
00:20:31.720 enjoying a bit of a career resurgence because of that video of the guy skateboarding and drinking
00:20:36.120 juice. That's all it takes these days has now come out and credited her, her career success with her
00:20:42.340 decision to murder her unborn child. Uh, in a recent interview, she says, quote, abortion rights.
00:20:48.380 That was really my generation's fight. If president Trump wins this election and puts the judge in he
00:20:52.560 wants, she will absolutely outlaw it and push women back into back alley abortions. Side note,
00:20:58.880 by the way, uh, the Supreme court is not going to be outlawing abortion. If they overturn Roe v. Wade,
00:21:03.380 then it goes to the States and it will still remain legal in many States, you know, California,
00:21:07.220 New York, many of the most populous States that will remain legal in. Uh, anyway, if I had,
00:21:12.340 uh, if I had not had that abortion, I'm pretty sure that there would have been no Fleetwood Mac
00:21:16.980 perished the thought. There's just no way that I could have had a child then working as hard as I
00:21:22.660 worked constantly. And there were a lot of drugs. I was doing a lot of drugs. I would have had to
00:21:27.640 walk away. And I knew that the music we were going to bring to the world was going to heal so many
00:21:32.420 people's hearts and make people happy. And I thought, you know what? That's really important.
00:21:37.240 There's not another band in the world that has two lead women singers, two lead women writers.
00:21:41.760 That was my world's mission. You know, I have to say there are no good reasons to kill a child
00:21:49.520 ever period, but this reason that you had to kill a child in order to ensure that the world is not
00:21:58.020 deprived of Fleetwood Mac. This has to be perhaps at the top of the list of the really bad reasons.
00:22:04.680 She's saying she killed her child so she could do drugs and make money. I'm sorry, work hard. I like
00:22:11.520 how she lumps in, you know, I was working so hard back then, uh, and doing a lot of drugs,
00:22:15.860 working hard and doing drugs. Somehow to me, those seem like mutually exclusive
00:22:20.680 pursuits, don't they? Either you're, you're at a point in your life where you're doing a lot of drugs
00:22:25.660 or you're at a point where you're working hard. It doesn't seem likely that you're doing both.
00:22:32.100 But regardless, um, that's why she killed her child. How do you think she's feeling about that
00:22:38.820 decision now? I know how she pretends to feel, but how does she actually feel? She's 72 years old,
00:22:45.160 childless, alone, not married, has no children, plenty of money. Sure. And, uh, some hit records,
00:22:53.540 all of which are decades old. Does the money keep her company on those long, cold nights?
00:23:01.400 Well, the song she's, she's already sung a million times give her comfort as she lives out her final
00:23:07.980 years on this earth. It's just impossible to believe that a woman at this stage of life
00:23:14.020 would still feel great about killing the only child she ever had for, for, for success. That's
00:23:20.320 now gone and fame that has faded and fun times that are all mostly in the past. Now it's just,
00:23:25.960 there's no way you are alone with your past success being your only legacy.
00:23:38.240 I mean, who cares about Fleetwood Mac? Who cares about Fleetwood Mac now? Who's going to care about
00:23:43.960 Fleetwood Mac 50 years from now? I don't know about you, but, but I, I know how she feels about
00:23:51.220 it. I would trade Fleetwood Mac's music in a heartbeat for her child if I could.
00:23:58.420 Number five, Dr. Fauci now says that we may have to bite the bullet this year and, um,
00:24:03.820 sacrifice Thanksgiving. This is him talking about that. Listen.
00:24:06.680 Of course, that's such a sacred part of American tradition, the family gathering around Thanksgiving,
00:24:14.480 but that is a risk. You may have to bite the bullet and sacrifice that social gathering
00:24:20.640 unless you're pretty certain that the people that you're dealing with are not infected.
00:24:27.660 Okay. In fairness, he did have that qualifier there. He says, can't cancel Thanksgiving unless
00:24:31.240 you're sure nobody is sick, but there's always that vagueness to it. Right. Uh, and then it comes
00:24:36.360 and then, and then, and then eventually it's no, no, no, it's banned. Nevermind. So that's the way
00:24:40.220 it's always worked. Like 15 minutes or, uh, 15 minutes might as well. They might as well have said
00:24:44.100 15, 15 days to slow the spread. They said, Hey, it's only 15 days, you know, give or take 15 days.
00:24:53.220 Oh, but Dr. Fauci, what happens after 15 days? Well, yeah, we'll see. We'll see. I, it, uh,
00:24:58.300 it's, you know, it's, it's, it could be done at 15 days. Who knows? I know this tactic because I use
00:25:04.040 it with my kids and they're finally starting to catch on that if they ask me for something and I
00:25:08.840 give them the, maybe we'll see. Sure. I mean, maybe, yeah, maybe. And then I, especially if I
00:25:13.820 add the qualifier, uh, maybe, yeah, uh, you know, it's, if there's time at the end of the day, uh, to
00:25:19.740 get ice cream, well, we want, we might do that. Sure. Maybe that they've realized that that's just a no.
00:25:25.260 No. That is a no ingestation. That is no in its embryonic phase. Um, and that's, uh, that's what
00:25:33.300 we're getting from Fauci. But in this case, the good thing is, you know, that I don't personally
00:25:38.220 give a damn about Fauci's opinion of my Thanksgiving plans. It makes no difference to me. I'm not
00:25:44.440 canceling Thanksgiving. I'm going to have Thanksgiving. It's my favorite holiday because
00:25:48.340 they're, and I'll tell you why it's my favorite. Very simple. Lots of food, no presents.
00:25:52.860 I don't have to give presents. I don't have to receive them, which is also a great burden for me
00:25:58.200 because I have to pretend that I like it. All the presents I get, um, it just get rid of all that
00:26:03.800 and just get right to the food. That's all I care about these days. When you're a child,
00:26:08.700 holidays are about presents. When you're an adult, it's really just about the food. That's
00:26:11.880 who cares about the present. Um, so it's my favorite holiday. I'm not going to be canceling it.
00:26:17.020 Um, and, uh, we're going to be having Thanksgiving. We will not be wearing masks
00:26:21.100 and we will not be practicing social distancing. Uh, and we're just going to be, you know, we're
00:26:27.400 going to be normal people having a Thanksgiving celebration. And, but you know, in fact, I'm not
00:26:31.920 going to be forcing anyone to attend. That's the other good thing. So I, I was, I'm not going to go
00:26:36.300 and abduct anybody off the street and, and make them sit at my table, uh, you know, under threat of,
00:26:42.040 under threat of murder with a gun pointed to their head and stuff cranberry sauce down their
00:26:47.200 throat. I'm not going to do that. We will hold off on that aspect of our normal tradition this year,
00:26:52.700 which means that anyone who's at Thanksgiving with me, they chose to be there. They chose to
00:26:58.660 take on the risk, which I think is, is, is not a very enormous risk, but, um, they chose to take on
00:27:03.880 that risk for the sake of Turkey and gravy. And I think it is a gamble worth taking personally.
00:27:09.160 Um, all right, let's go right to our daily cancellation today for our daily cancellation.
00:27:15.980 We're going to cancel body shaming, not the thing itself, uh, not the shaming, but rather the focus
00:27:21.160 on it, the hysteria over it, the claims made about it. That's what we're canceling. And just for
00:27:27.780 example, we'll start, we'll start with this. Um, you know, and this year, you know, it's been a
00:27:31.220 chaotic parade of, of major news stories, one after the other, perhaps none have been quite as
00:27:36.580 significant though, as the news that made headlines across the media landscape this week,
00:27:40.560 you no doubt have probably already heard pop singer, Billie Eilish was body shamed.
00:27:47.680 This is a big deal. You're supposed to care about this sort of thing, though. Nobody is sure exactly
00:27:53.240 why trumpet blast resounded, alerting the whole internet to the incident, which quickly became
00:27:57.880 a national crisis. Fox news says Billie Eilish claps back at body shamers. Yahoo reports, Billie Eilish
00:28:04.240 responds to body shamers. MSN tells us Billie Eilish body shaming video goes viral as singer
00:28:10.280 responds to trolls. The Independent, L, E.T., Cosmopolitan, other publications had their own
00:28:15.360 reports. BuzzFeed, as always, published the definitive essay on the topic in a post titled
00:28:20.000 Grown Ass Adults, Please Stop Body Shaming Billie Eilish. That article written by Pulitzer candidate
00:28:25.760 Ryan Schockett informs us that a recent photo of the singer walking down the street wearing a tank top
00:28:30.840 and shorts and sandals with socks set off a wave of critiques, commentary, and discussion.
00:28:36.440 Now, by the way, as an avid sock and sandal wearer myself, unapologetically so, I would hope that the
00:28:41.280 photo would, if anything, help to normalize the sock and sandal community. But instead of discussing
00:28:48.580 the advantages of footwear that allows you to proudly show off your favorite socks instead of
00:28:52.060 hiding them inside dreary and boring shoes, it seems that the discussion, in this case, took a negative
00:28:56.700 turn. The body shamers were out in force. A whole wave of them. Part of the body shaming epidemic,
00:29:03.380 as it has been called. All of them set on ruthlessly mocking and belittling Billie Eilish.
00:29:10.060 One of the body shaming tweets from an anonymous user said,
00:29:13.400 In 10 months, Billie Eilish has developed a mid-30s wine mom body. Another body shamer said,
00:29:20.520 Wait, there wasn't another one. That was pretty much it.
00:29:22.440 There was precisely one negative comment from some guy in England who goes by the handle
00:29:28.640 GameSnosh. And many thousands of comments from people mercilessly scolding him for his rude behavior
00:29:34.380 while heaping compliments and accolades on Eilish. Now, I have not counted all of them,
00:29:38.700 but I would guess that there's probably a 100,000 to one ratio of positive to negative comments.
00:29:45.120 And that's probably a significant understatement. Also, the people saying nice things include
00:29:50.680 powerful media platforms, fellow celebrities. The people saying mean things include
00:29:56.940 GameSnosh. Though, in fairness, if I scoured Twitter, I'm sure I could probably find up to a
00:30:02.100 dozen accounts with anime avatars also insulting Eilish in hopes of leeching some of the attention
00:30:08.400 from the dastardly GameSnosh. But all told, I don't think there's a real problem here.
00:30:13.860 Lots and lots of people are saying very nice things about a woman who walked down the street
00:30:17.600 wearing shorts. One dude said not nice things. This is not exactly Pearl Harbor in terms of
00:30:24.400 national significance. True, Eilish has been targeted by shamers before, or so I'm told.
00:30:30.260 She's spoken out about the body shaming and issued many eloquent clapbacks over the years. But again,
00:30:36.080 a look at her Instagram account or music videos on YouTube reveal a very near unanimous agreement that
00:30:42.420 Eilish is beautiful, amazing, brilliant. She also won six Grammy Awards this year, which should serve,
00:30:48.220 I would think, as a nice self-esteem boost. But even with millions of adoring fans and legions of
00:30:53.820 internet warriors ready to leap into action to rip anyone to shreds should they utter the mildest
00:30:58.600 insult about her looks, music, or anything else, we're still told that there's a real problem,
00:31:03.940 even a newsworthy problem, of Billie Eilish being body shamed.
00:31:07.900 It's not just Billie Eilish. To hear the media tell it, you would think that we live in a culture
00:31:13.480 utterly beset by body shaming. Great effort is made to denounce body shaming, counteract body shaming,
00:31:20.200 raise awareness about body shaming, eradicate body shaming. And the body shaming problem has
00:31:24.460 attracted such intense focus that it's even been broken down into subcategories. We've gotten very
00:31:30.780 specific with it. There's the infamous fat shaming, the slightly less infamous skinny shaming. Plus,
00:31:36.260 there's tall shaming, short shaming, hair shaming, bald shaming, skin shaming, teeth shaming,
00:31:40.640 foot shaming, hand shaming, breath shaming, butt shaming. And we could continue down the list of
00:31:45.600 body parts, all of which have their own dedicated shamers and also their own dedicated anti-shamers.
00:31:51.420 But at least we could say the shaming is relegated to external features so far. I'm not aware of any
00:31:55.780 spleen shamers or kidney shamers. Yet, despite the exorbitant attention paid to the problem,
00:32:02.420 I doubt that people are more likely to make mean comments about your body today than at any other
00:32:08.680 point in history. In fact, it seems quite certain that body shaming today is much less common than
00:32:13.800 it once was. After all, there was a time when you could walk outside, you know, you put on your
00:32:19.960 Sunday's best and head into town to laugh at obese people and hairy women at an event that was literally
00:32:25.860 called a freak show. We may have our own ways of gawking at strange physical specimens these days,
00:32:31.080 but we usually do it through through reality TV. And usually it assumes an ostensibly inspirational
00:32:36.360 or medical tone. My 600 pound life on TLC, for example, is a show about extremely obese people,
00:32:42.800 but it sells itself as an opportunity to follow participants as we document their life saving
00:32:48.820 journey. This is a kinder and gentler approach to the spectacle for at least in this sense, a kinder
00:32:54.700 and gentler age. And it's probably the best we can hope for, from a fallen species such as ourselves.
00:33:02.040 Now, I'm not saying that nobody is ever shamed for the way they look. I know I, I know they are,
00:33:07.160 I am. I read my YouTube comments on occasion, you bastards. But if a person is subjected to a greater
00:33:15.220 quantity of mean comments today, it's only because we interact with so many more people and we put
00:33:21.320 ourselves in front of large audiences all the time as part of living our half-human, half-cyborg lives
00:33:28.500 in cyberspace. There's always going to be small, petty jerks who love snickering anonymously from
00:33:33.860 the sidelines if given the opportunity, but all the attention they're given only makes a troll mole
00:33:38.520 hill into a mountain. Most people, whether on the internet or in three-dimensional space,
00:33:44.080 are not inclined to make any comments about your physical looks. And most who are inclined will say
00:33:49.260 nice things. And if you are ever subjected to a genuinely vicious attack, you can always post
00:33:53.840 about it on Facebook and get thousands of people lining up to assuage your damaged ego and donate
00:33:59.100 generously to your GoFundMe campaign. What we should consider is that maybe the real epidemic when it
00:34:06.080 comes to body shaming and bullying generally is that we are so unable to deal with it. The interesting
00:34:15.200 question is not, why are all these people saying mean things? But rather, why are all these people
00:34:21.080 incapable of handling the mean things that are said to them? We could run around till our faces turn
00:34:27.140 blue, demanding that everybody see themselves as beautiful just the way they are. But at a certain
00:34:31.240 point, a person has to learn to function in the world without a constant IV drip of positive emotional
00:34:37.080 reinforcement. If a bit of taunting from the internet peanut gallery causes you to plunge into despair,
00:34:42.060 you probably have issues which the peanut gallery didn't cause and which would still exist even if
00:34:48.280 they all agreed that you're the most gorgeous specimen in the whole world. There isn't much
00:34:54.280 evidence that people are any meaner now than they've ever been at any other point in history.
00:34:58.400 But there is a fair amount of evidence that we're far more vulnerable and dependent upon
00:35:03.540 affirmation than at any other point in history. You know, some of the reason for this shift isn't hard
00:35:09.000 to decipher. Social media intentionally breeds this kind of fragility and mass codependence.
00:35:15.260 Many billions of dollars have been spent on technology designed precisely to give you this
00:35:20.800 fragile emotional complex, and many more billions have been made because of it.
00:35:25.440 Now, it also should be stated that some of the things we call body shaming can come from a place
00:35:29.480 of genuine, sincere concern on the part of the alleged shamer. You know, calling somebody fat and ugly
00:35:35.140 or stupid is clearly an insult. But these days, we're so determined to eradicate body shaming that
00:35:40.200 even a medically accurate and sound statement like, obesity is unhealthy, or, you know, you
00:35:47.080 shouldn't be proud of being morbidly overweight, even that is denounced as shaming. Billie Eilish is
00:35:53.420 obviously not obese, so this doesn't apply in her case, but we have run so far to the other end of
00:35:57.380 the shaming extreme that now we tell people to embrace and celebrate aspects of their physical
00:36:01.760 appearance that they can change and will kill them if they don't.
00:36:07.880 So, in the end, body shaming is not all it's cracked up to be. If you really feel shame about
00:36:14.340 your body because some anonymous troll teased you, the problem is less the troll and more the fact that
00:36:22.300 you care what the troll thinks in the first place, that you are, in fact, desperately in need of
00:36:27.320 affirmation from that troll. And his withholding of it causes you to spiral into emotional crisis.
00:36:35.920 That is the problem. In a sense, you are the problem. Focus on that. Until then, you're canceled.
00:36:45.560 That was my inspirational talk for the day. I hope you feel better at the end of it.
00:36:53.540 And we will leave it there. Thanks for watching, everybody. Thanks for listening. Have a great
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00:37:37.080 Hey, everyone. It's Andrew Klavan, host of The Andrew Klavan Show. As the confirmation hearings
00:37:41.560 of smoking hot judge Amy Coney Barrett come to an end, it becomes easy to understand why the left is
00:37:49.120 trying so hard to censor us and shout us down. It's because when the public hears what we really stand for,
00:37:55.360 they're on our side. We'll talk about it on The Andrew Klavan Show.